DPK On TikTok's Ban, Country Rap Controversy, and the Future of Digital Fame

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
First things first Dirty.
Prescott Kids, Travis DPK theman, the Myth, the Legend.
I want to start it right atsquare one, with all the current
events going on around TikTok.
I just saw your recent videothat you did on YouTube talking
about the TikTok ban.
It's pretty crazy because it'slike obviously it was a massive
springboard for your career.

(00:20):
It was how we met you.
I mean, there's just so muchsurrounding that platform.
You have over 600 000 followerson it.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Like, give us, give us a peek into what, what your
thoughts are on this whole thingwell, obviously, right after
rip, I don't want the app todisappear, uh, like some people
seem to.
Well, I never got on tiktok, soit's fine if it goes.
I'm like it's not just aboutthe fact that I have this
following.

(00:47):
There's so many people like yousaid that you've met because of
it.
I've seen all these people.
I know I understand the scope ofhow many people will lose what
they have if that goes.
I actually have a little bit ofan out, I guess, because people
are going and streaming mymusic and following elsewhere,
so like I could keep it rolling.

(01:08):
You know the show goes on nomatter what, but there's some
people that is the only platformthey use, whether they're, you
know, small business on there orsinger, whatever.
You have to build a platform,as you guys know, and the
thought of losing it because ofwhatever reasoning they've gave
thus far, I just I don't agreewith it and I signed every dang
petition and got in every video.

(01:30):
I could, to like say that Istand with TikTok or the not
really with TikTok, but thepeople that make TikTok awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Yeah, I completely agree with you.
My first initial thoughts is,like well, who cares?
There's a hundred otherplatforms.
But then I started reallythinking about it over the
course of like that whole weekwhere it was a really hot topic.
I'm like dang like, as far as achannel monetization standpoint
, we've made more money onTikTok than any other platform,

(01:58):
and I think I don't know if thisis true or not, but I think
it's even more than every otherplatform combined.
Oh, facebook, instagram,youtube.
Like the way that TikTok givesyou the ability to monetize
one-minute videos and longer isbetter than so many other
platforms, especially for thesepeople who don't have these

(02:18):
millions of followers.
Right, and I think that's whata lot of people don't realize is
that it's one of the onlyplatforms that allows you to
reach a ton of people with nofollowing.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeah, it gives you at least the fair shake to attempt
to reach the people you know,like the other platforms, like
don't even let you in the door,like you have to have those
following to even get a videoout there where, tiktok, you see
random stars rise all the time.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
Yeah, some some burnout quick but it's like a
lot of people that rise on otherplatforms probably
springboarded off of theirtiktok career to start with.
So it's like even, even if youare famous on any other platform
, if you started on tiktok, youstill need to owe all that
credit to tiktok.
Like it just it did.
When I saw it and like luckilywe weren't like super shooting,

(03:05):
super like you're always into it, but I was kind of checked out
because we hadn't shot in solong.
But immediately I was likethank god that we're not like
single suited and shoved intothis corner and just just one.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
It's like well, that was a big part of why we
structure our videos the way wedo is, like, make it so that we
can use it for multipleplatforms.
Because of a situation likethis, like I don't want someone
that has the ability to takethis out without my control,
without my say, even if I don'twant it to happen completely,
take it off, yeah, and now, notonly do we lose all those videos

(03:35):
, because, like, it's impossibleto save everything that you're
posting, yeah, so part of italmost acts as like a gallery, a
portfolio, like a, a history ofwhat you've accomplished, what
you've done, but then, on top ofthat, it's like you have
absolutely no say and they candirectly impact the amount of
money that you make by justtaking this off of the app store
.
And that blows my mind.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
And like even up, I will say like even up to the
point that it happened.
I didn't understand, like, thescope of like.
I thought that I thought themost probable scenario was going
to be that you continue to useit and it basically like doesn't
update and it kills itself,like over time.
Yeah, uh, we were live.

(04:17):
It was like almost apocalyptic.
We were literally live becausewe knew it was like possibly the
last night and mid talking itjust popped up and people were
sending us screenshots where,like the screen, the thing was
right over our face and beinglike this app is ax from the app
store.
And then it was like, but thesepeople can still hear us.

(04:37):
And then it was like fiveseconds later, nope, not even
that, like you're off of here.
And then when you realize thatyou can't look up any other
videos you can't look up anyother videos, you can't even use
the app, I can't even now go tomy old videos or nothing.
So if you didn't grab anything,let's say that was just the end
and it never came back.
I would never have been able togo, recover nothing.
And I was like I just didn'timagine it going down like that,
knowing they can just pull theplug at an instant.

(05:00):
I'm going to go deep with thisright away.
I read a book one time calledlike it's like nine seconds
after or something Right, andit's about like an EMP blast and
they talk about how peopledon't really realize, like, how
quick, like the second yourcommunication is gone.
It's it's gone and you willstart to panic and it's felt
slightly like that when it wentaway and you, just you, you

(05:22):
couldn't, you can't use it, youcan't access your messages,
nothing, and I was like that ishow quick they can pull, just
communication in general,everything the whole internet
goes down.
It is like tiktok's a metaphorand it just boom, you can't use
this anymore.
People are like what are wesupposed to do?
And that just felt like.
It felt bigger than just thetiktok thing yeah, I was.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
I was watching ufc with a bunch of my buddies and
we were talking like oh,tiktok's going away, is it
really gonna happen?
And then one of my buddy'sgirlfriend goes to go on it and
it the message comes up and wewere all like what?
The fuck like it all got realso quick and like I felt
different than mitch, I was kindof sitting there sulking.
It didn't hit me until thatmoment.
We just lost our biggestplatform.

(06:08):
That's our most amount offollowers and they are gone.

Speaker 4 (06:11):
I thought about that too.
I was just thinking I wastrying to stay in the positive
realm of thank God, we're notonly on.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
TikTok, Dude.

Speaker 4 (06:16):
I was down in the depths At the same time I was
like wow, Big video-wise, that'swhat we have.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
yeah, like anything that has any really substantial
viewership is all kind of on ourtiktok.
Well, we have other videos likeon on youtube and instagram and
facebook that all have a lotmore views, but consistently
over a million.
I think tiktok has the mostamount of views across all the
videos.
But we have a few breakoutvideos on all the other
platforms.
But that was one thing that Ithought about right away.
I was like dang thinking back.

(06:48):
There's definitely like one-offvideos that we only did on
tiktok and are those gone?
I can't go on it, I can't savethose.

Speaker 4 (06:55):
I didn't save those.
How do you get them back?

Speaker 1 (06:57):
they're not on my hard drive anymore.
They were just quick tiktoks Iliterally filmed on my phone.
I can't get any of those backnow.
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
I have like a lot of them saved, but like I have, I
would guess, like 4,000 piecesof content on there.
Like it would just be.
It would be crazy to try totake them all off there, most of
them not even worth it, causethat's how TikTok works.
Like, uh, youtube is sopolished.
Instagram is definitely likealmost like polished to a flaw.
Like like fake polished tiktok.

(07:26):
You have pieces of content likeyou said.
You're just pulling your phoneout saying some stuff it's not
always these like banger videos,right, and those videos can do
200 000 like it.
The.
It's just not even createdequal on any other app of the
organic platform of like regulartype people that you can meet
on there.
And I just I don't know.

(07:47):
I found like a really coolcommunity of people on there and
I don't get the same responseanywhere else and those people
still use those apps.
It's crazy.
I'm like, why Like?
For instance, why do I have690,000 on Tik TOK and 10,000 on
YouTube?

Speaker 4 (08:03):
No matter matter what I post on there, like it
doesn't go to a certain placeyou could post the exact same
thing mirror image with both,and it would be the same yeah, I
would take 10 of the the tiktokif I could but, it's like
converting them.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
It's just different.
But tiktok has a a different Idon't know.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
It's a different context.
It's a people use everyplatform differently and it's
becoming more and more popularto structure your content
differently for each platform,because people interact with
content differently on everydifferent platform.
Yeah, youtube, for example.
I just read a statistic thatwas saying that on connected tvs
at home, youtube is now themost used streaming service.

(08:40):
So more than netflix use one ofmy more than hulu, more than
disney, plus, I mean more thanall these, which is crazy.
So people now are more thanever sitting down and like
watching youtube.
I know I am.
I mean I.

Speaker 4 (08:53):
I have youtube premium and it's cheaper to pay
for that than it is for allthese other streaming services
me and sam were just talkingabout and got lunch before we
came in here and we were talkingabout how, like, how
differently we watch youtubecompared to any other like
platform.
Yeah, like there's youtubeshorts.
I'm not going on youtube shorts, I'm going on tiktok if I want
to watch that youtube, I'mwatching like outdoor boys.
I'm watching like good mythicalmorning, like sitting down and

(09:15):
watching like a 45 minute videothe closest thing.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Completely different, absolutely.
Yeah, the closest thing for meto tiktok is instagram reels,
but it's a totally differentenvironment.
Like it's a I differentenvironment.
Like it's a I expect differentvideos on my Instagram feed
versus TikTok.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
You know I like it when people comment on the
TikTok so they're like this foryou page was built brick by
brick.
It's like Instagram, like itthrows you what it wants.
You do feel like you played arole in your TikTok algorithm
Like you're like oh, I know whythese wrestling videos are
popped up because I startedliking all those ray mysterio
videos yeah, yeah, 100, okay.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
So if let's say tiktok never comes back, let's
say it's down right now.
What's your first move fromlike a strategy perspective?
Well, the the.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
I guess my first move now is going to be YouTube,
because I wanted that to buildanyways and I knew I was paying
less attention to it than Ishould be.
Uh, one kid that I don'tnecessarily love his advice, but
he told me one time I knew itwas true.
When he said it to me he waslike hey, why do you think
you're not growing on YouTube asfast as Tik TOK?
And I gave him some spiel andhe's like well, I'm thinking

(10:20):
it's because you put all youreffort into tiktok.
You post three, four videos aday.
You're always trying to getbetter at it, but like you'll
post one a month on youtube.
And I was like yeah I don'twant you.
You're right, but fuck you, Idon't water it the way that I
should, yeah, but that wholetime I started to notice all
these people were saying like,uh, we don't want to go back to

(10:42):
facebook, we don't want to goback to instagram.
And this is the first time Inoticed where I was like uh,
we're not all using them all atthe same, like time, like
simultaneously, and so that'swhen I realized that, uh, a lot
of people only use like tiktokor only use youtube.
I've been posting my shitacross all social media for four

(11:03):
years, five years, yeah, so Istill got those other platforms
to lean on, so the next move isjust post it elsewhere.
But I really do hate the ideayeah of like putting all this
effort into that for four years,for it to disappear, for like,
just like a like a weird reasonthat like a good chunk of people
don't even agree with, likeit's not even like.

(11:24):
Oh, I get it.
This is dangerous, yeah it'slike it's.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
It's like it's weird.
It's been obviously turned intoa weird political debate, but
like yeah is the.
The biggest debate is thatthey're stealing your
information.
All the information is going tochina.
I'm like dude, you don't thinkthey have that from every other
platform?
Yeah, for sure you're stupid tothink that that's not the case
across everything and when theywere questioning the CEO.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
These old fucking fucktards can't even feel their
farts.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
Like dude their questions were pathetic.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
It was like is TikTok ?

Speaker 3 (11:56):
does TikTok use Wi-Fi ?
And then, he'd be like yes,it's a Wi-Fi platform.

Speaker 4 (12:00):
Does it tap into the Wi-Fi network in your house?

Speaker 1 (12:09):
If you're connected to your fucking wi-fi, then yes,
he's looking at.
I'm like gotcha fucker.
Yeah, I remember that.
I remember those hearings.
I was like why are these theguys asking the questions?

Speaker 4 (12:13):
honestly, I think the craziest argument is when
people are worried about it andlike they say like oh tiktok,
sending out your information,I'm like motherfucker, nobody
cares about your informationthey can have your fucking
social security number.
They can't do a fucking thingto you.
It's you don't have shit totake.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
It is who who cares about this is the people that
are not getting the money fromtiktok and who are not getting
the information from tiktok.
You know they can get it fromall these american companies,
yeah, but I think also it's likesome of these guys probably
don't want tiktok getting theirdata because they probably got
some skeletons in their closet.
These guys these oldpoliticians.

(12:49):
You can't tell me they did someshady stuff to get there?

Speaker 2 (12:51):
The funniest thing.
Caroline brought this to myattention.
She said you know I didn't planon seeing people air themselves
out like this, but a lot of oldmen seem to take to Facebook
saying TikTok's nothing but abunch of girls shaking their
asses and you're not admittingthat.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
It's a brick by brick platform.
It's not just feeding you that.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
And it was like dude.
If X-rated stuff seems to bepopping up, it's based off of
what you're watching.
You think you don't interactwith it.
It knows that you stopped.
It knows that you watched itfor three seconds.
It knows all this.
So, as someone, like I said, Iput 4,000 videos on there.
So when a person says to me hey, I heard that China's going to

(13:31):
have all your information, I'mlike I literally had videos with
millions of stream, millions ofviews, with my damn trailer
address in the background, likeit's like I've given away
information down to my location.
It's, it's not.
I'm clearly not worried aboutit and a lot of people aren't.
It's like if you're orderingstuff on amazon and team you and

(13:52):
all these things, you're wellaware that now your information
is kind of floating around theinternet.
It's kind of just hopefully uh,you know, hopefully it doesn't
affect me, you do?

Speaker 1 (14:02):
I mean you do something as simple as buy a
house and you have a millionscammers trying to reach out to
you all the time.
They're sending you letters,they're calling you.
Your information is out thereregardless.
Yeah, and it's always thatthink about all the fucking.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
Every new truck in the world.
You can go on your phone andtrack your truck 24 hours a day.
You think chevy can't trackyour truck.
If you can, you think theyfucking?

Speaker 3 (14:23):
can, are you an?

Speaker 4 (14:24):
idiot.
I can start my truck from theother side of the world.
They know where you are, dude.
If they wanted to do somethingwith your information, they'd
have done it already.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
I just saw this thing about the Ford Mach-E, the
electric Mustang.
If you finance it through Ford,they can shut it down if you
don't make your payment.
And you can't tell me in thefuture that isn't going to be
like, oh, you didn't make yourpayment.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
It's driving itself back to the place you bought it
from, like what, somebody warnedyou about that a long time ago
and they thought you were dumb.
You know, like these, thesecomputers in the car, they're
going to start giving youtickets and and that's like it
pretty much is well, that's all.

Speaker 4 (15:01):
Your insurance is on your car, oh yeah, yeah, my
insurance fluctuates, If hedrives too fast, oh my.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
God.
It fluctuates based on if youdrive too late at night, if you
don't drive buckled, if youdrive too close to people, if
you accelerate too fast, if youbrake too hard Okay For people.
My son is in the back room in alittle jumper right now, so
he's screaming.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
He's having a great time.
It's not the girl Mitchkidnapped, it's.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Cody's son.
Everyone can relax.
Yeah, that one you couldn'thear before.
This is my kid in the otherroom.
If you're hearing some kidsscreaming he's loving.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
DPK.
He's just staring at them.
They don't all smile like thatwhen they're looking at me.
Usually it's suspicious who's?

Speaker 1 (15:42):
this.
He's been smiling at me,usually suspicious, kind of like
who's this?
Yeah, right, he's been smilingat me the whole time.
No, but I think, going back tolike having all your eggs in one
basket with like being solelyinvested in tiktok, I think
we're gonna start to see moreand more people realize like, oh
, we can get just shut down now,so you're gonna see a lot, I
think, more platforms pop up andthen also we're getting into

(16:03):
this era of like microcommunities where not everyone
gets fed the same stuff.
So like what's popular to acertain group of people I won't
even hear about.
Yeah, you know, like my littlebrother will bring up things.
That's like did you see thisvideo?
Yeah, I was like dude, I haveno idea what you're talking
about.
He's like you don't even knowso and so, yeah, no, dude, I
have never heard that name.
Like no way.

(16:23):
He clicks on his channel stilllike 100 million subscribers.
Like how have I never heard?

Speaker 4 (16:28):
of.
Yeah, I was just showing samlike that at lunch too.
I was showing him like one ofthese tiktoks.
He's like I can't believe Ihaven't seen this yeah it's got,
you know, 15 million likes.
I'm just in my head.
I just assume that everyonesees it, but it's just not the
way it works yeah, I do it allthe time to people.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
I will show them, as if they should know Like dude,
is it viral all the time andthey're like not to me.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
And it like pisses me off.
It's like how do you not knowthis?

Speaker 4 (16:50):
Or like you make a reference to it and nobody gets
it and you're just like don'tlaugh and you're like fuck.
I thought that was kind of agood joke.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
But it's my bad.
I guess it's like we don't havelike a Step Brothers, for
example, like you can't tell meanyone in all of our generation
that can't quote something fromStep Brothers.
Like my brother, my littlebrother's generation doesn't
have that like Step Brothersmoment, like that they all kind
of share.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
And that's crazy to me that you can't tell me that's
not going to create some sortof a weird cultural thing.
You know well and for for likefor your brother, his age,
they've never had a comedy movie, a cult classic comedy movie
drop that everybody loves.
You know, like, like for youyou were saying stepbrother's
super bad, like there's so manybangers and there's just nothing
you can hold your hat on, sincefucking to the 2010s.
You know.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
Yeah, that's a really good point.
Cameron's freaking out theother, he's happy.
These are happy cries.
I don't want people to thinkhe's being neglected.
I got a straight line of sight.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
He's got a hundred toys in front of him he's got a
hundred toys.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
The guy's living his best life right now, dude one
thing that I've been obsessedwith lately is the.
I guess I just I don't evenknow how to explain this because
Bryce Mitchellce mitchell, theufc fighter, has managed to ruin
his career in one podcastepisode.
Do you guys, do you follow ufcat all?

Speaker 4 (18:13):
yeah, you know about this bryce mitchell thing I only
know.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
I don't know if it's, is it a new thing?

Speaker 4 (18:19):
yeah, like within the last week, so I haven't heard,
so bryce mitchell.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
For people that don't know who he is, he's very
country.

Speaker 4 (18:25):
He wears camo shorts in the octagon he's like hell
yeah, we're gonna fucking kickthis white boy's ass yeah and he
is a white boy, so it getsconfusing if you're gonna read
the quote because I know youhave the quote typed out you
need to read it as if you arebryce mitchell, because it makes
it way better it's tough.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
I might I might not hit his way.
He says things a little bit toocountry for me, but I'm going
to give it my best shot.
This is how Bryce Mitchell cameout in his first podcast
episode.
I honestly think Hitler was agood guy.
Based upon my own research, notmy public education, I really
do think before Hitler got onmeth, he was a guy to go fishing

(19:04):
with.
He fought for his country.
I really do think before Hitlergot on meth, he was a guy to go
fishing with.
He fought for his country.
He wanted to purify it bykicking the greedy Jews out that
were destroying his country andturning them into gays.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
Oh my.

Speaker 4 (19:14):
God, that is a direct quote from Brett Smith.
It's a real, actual fuckingquote Like this is the craziest
podcast clip I've seen in mywhole fucking life and dudeana
white ripped him in half aboutit oh dude.
He's like he's a fucking.
He's probably the stupidest guyI've ever met in my life.
He's like I can't believe heeven thought about.
He was like that was a goodidea to say, let alone to post

(19:34):
it online.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
That is insane to me.

Speaker 4 (19:37):
What a crazy take he goes out for like two minutes
about it, how he thinks hitler'sa good dude and like, like the
jews were bringing in the gaysand the gays were ruining his
country and that's why he didwhat he did.
I'm like we're not justifyingwhat he did.
There's no way that you canever get away with that, I think
regardless.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Okay, this brings me back to my marketing.
Brain says all press is goodpress.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
I think his next fight will be one of the highest
viewed fights in a while forhim, and I think everyone will
be rooting for him to lose so Ilove that you say that, because
dana literally said he said thisbecause people were upset
because he wasn't going tosuspend him or anything.
Dana said I, everything he saidis fucked up.
I.
I'm against it, but it's freespeech.

(20:17):
I'm not going to suspend him,but here's the beauty of this
business is you get to watch himget his fucking ass kicked on
live TV.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
What better way yeah Like if you don't like him.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
This is the best sport to not like a guy.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Yeah, you can watch him lose his next fight or
possibly have a huge upset andhe wins, and then people are
going to be more upset and thenI mean honestly, he's just going
to get more publicity on this.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
Every everyone.
You need heels all right inevery industry.
And I don't remember ChaelSonnen, like I don't remember
who his podcast he's on.
It might have been a Roganepisode where they were talking
about how he basically justplayed a character his entire
career.
He's like I wanted everyone tohate me.
You need that Someone has to doit.
It can't just be two good guyspunching each other in the face.
Who the fuck?

Speaker 1 (21:00):
cares about that.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
That's a really good point.
Yeah, I think the Rock theysaid his career wasn't doing
anything at all substantiallyuntil he became a heel.

Speaker 4 (21:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Like he kind of reverse, unoed on the people and
became that People kind ofwanted to see him lose but he
was kind of building himself up,like if you imagine taking
those away from, like prowrestling, it would have been
boring as shit without the theguy that I've heard angle.
I always remember him back inthe day.
People they had like a dun dun,dun, dun, dun dun and it was

(21:35):
supposed to be like all usa butpeople just yelled you suck, you
suck and like the guy was doingnothing wrong but trying to be
patriotic about his wrestlingbackground and people just hate
him alive yeah, oh, oh.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Speaking of, uh, public heels right now, mitch
was really okay with this, but alot of people were saying that
they weren't.
It's gonna be something crazy.
What do you think of elon doingthe whole salute thing on stage
?

Speaker 2 (21:59):
I missed the part when he did it.
Uh, when he did it, I think theaverage person would know to
like, maybe try not to doanything.
You know slightly thatresembles that.
But I'm like I in my mind, I'mlike there's no way everything
you'd see him doing leading upto that, that he would just
choose this like monumentalmoment to decide like this is
where I show, or maybe you dolike I'm waiting for the big,

(22:23):
the big uno, like no.
But when he did that and thenthey ran with it, it just showed
me that they were playing thesame cards they were playing
before.
They'll take any scenario andjust run with it like this guy's
a nazi, I'm like god nazi thing.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
Even if he wasn't, I get what you're saying like,
even if he was a nazi, I don'tthink that's how he'd like
publicly display it, right?

Speaker 2 (22:42):
this is the that's kind of a behind closed doors
thing.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
If you're going to be a Nazi, I probably wouldn't
promote it.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
Speaking of platforms taking things down, we've said
Nazi like seven times in thisepisode.
Do you think this is going toget taken down?
You think so.
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (22:55):
Is that a thing?
You can talk about Nazis?
Maybe you can.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
I don't know man pretty viral.
He was speaking prettypositively, that's.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
He stole that idea from kanye.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
You can't just give it to bryce mitchell.
Yeah, good point, but that'snot the first time he did it.
To answer your question, I didnot know that that happened, but
not that long ago he was kindof revered as, like he said
something like uh, I will fightfor this country in arkansas,
like I will fight to the deathif it, if it, you know, goes
down that way outside offighting like you know, and then

(23:29):
like proceeded to like the nextufc, he got like knocked out
cold so like yeah to be likethat's how that industry works
is like you could be everybody'slike you.
This guy might be our guy.
Like this is might be america'sguy.
Nope, they just got completelypancaked getting him and he,
like they like, had to wake himup from from the knockout, so

(23:53):
like it already wasn't goingvery hot for him in that I
forgot who he fought.
But he came out of nowhere,like he took the fight late.
It wasn't that long ago, maybea year ago.
He took the fight late and he'slike, announced it.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
Like everybody, show up to watch me knock this dude
out and then, just dude, that'sgotta be such a tough sport to
be in, where, like you can be atthe absolute top one fight.
You get caught one time andyour career can derail from that
fucking that's what happened tochuck liddell?

Speaker 4 (24:19):
dude, chuck liddell was at the top until he got
knocked out and then it was justlike knockout, knockout,
knockout, knockout.
Just like derailed this.
Something happens to those guystoo.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
The crazy part is like all these guys are peak
physical fitness like anyone canwin.
All it takes is just one guydoing something off and the
other one catching it, andthat's it that's what it does
not.

Speaker 4 (24:37):
Rogan talks about that all the time, how guys have
like an internal switch andonce it gets flipped, once
you're not the same anymore,yeah, yeah, because the chin
they say, like the receptors inthe chin, like once you've been
knocked out, it's easier for youto get knocked out Way easier
yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
Where Chuck Liddell, he probably got a bunch of
micro-concussions.
You know, never underestimatedthe Iceman, Like that guy was
the dog, he was the shit, but hewent so long, which probably
just you know the he went solong with probably just you know
the fights he won.
He got beat up and then all ofa sudden he's fighting these.
I remember one of the firstones I saw where he went down
hard was Rashad Evans Tail, endof me being in high school and

(25:13):
he hit him with the overhandright and just just buckle them
To see the legend go down likethat.
You're like sad, but Rashadwent on to win like a bunch of
fights.
After that he was the guy likeyeah, not Chuck, no more.
You kind of got to knock theguy out to show him who's coming
next it's like when they.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
It's like when the younger lion kills the, the head
of the pride.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
That's one thing I said, but you gotta have it,
yeah, a lot of these guys.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
You know they have so much pride, their life is into
this.
Maybe they even have a few morefights on their contract, but I
, I would love to just see someof these legends retire on top
like yeah, I feel like you haveto watch them get their ass
kicked by a dude who you wouldhave thought they'd have beat
the shit out of two years ago,and then they finally call it
after a loss.

Speaker 4 (25:55):
That's why I'm really , really hoping that john jones
doesn't push it like just me too, just stop, like we we had
enough.
We, we lived in the glory days,we saw it happen.
You killed everyone you touched.
If you get, if I said johnjones, get knocked out, it ruins
his image of me forever well,that was kind of ruin everything
please don't get knocked outthe mike.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
Are you gonna bring up my?
Yes, that's exactly what I wasjust gonna say.
That's exactly, dude.

Speaker 4 (26:19):
I might just quit fucking punching people, mike.
It's cool.
It's cool, please.
If I see you get beat up onemore time, dude, I can't do it.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
Mike, though the difference I saw in Mike I don't
think he had that dog in himwhen he went out there Like he
doesn't, his soul doesn't evenwant to fight people, no more.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
He's fucking 60, dude .

Speaker 2 (26:35):
He's a nice guy, he's nice, he's happy and you want
to just knock somebody's headoff.
That goes away.
It goes away for everybody,unless you somehow keep that
chip on your shoulder.
So Jon Jones is like half theage you know or give or take of
Mike Tyson.
If he came out 30 years fromnow and wanted to fight, I would
hope he didn't do it either.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
I didn't want Mike to do that.
No, it was heartbreaking dude.

Speaker 4 (27:05):
Especially that little fucking shit, blonde
motherfucker.
Yeah, you know my problem islike you don't stand to gain
anything.
You know, like no one's gonnathink you're better because you
beat up jake paul.
Nobody gives a fuck about jakepaul, right you were you got
that money for so long.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
Yeah, he got the money, but like is that?
What he cares about, mike tyson, you know there was speculation
that that was for the fam.
Like they said, like I mighthave burnt up some of my funds
doing things that I did, I canget a big enough bag off of this
to change my family's lifeforever and it doesn't matter if
I win or I lose.

Speaker 4 (27:29):
Well then, I'm all for it, like a sacrificial, yeah
, like he kind of like went out.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Dude, it's just screaming.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
Once you actually seen him out there moving.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
You kind of realized that you were kind of dumb for
believing.
You saw some of some trainingvideos, but when you seen him
going against like a.
How old is jake 25?
yeah, I think 26 I think he'sone year older than me.
Even if you weren't, jake paul,right, you're 25, like the, the
25 year old body.
It just affected different.
It moves, different.
It like it's 28.

(27:59):
He's 28, 28 dude.
I was, we was still slaying at28,.
Dude, if anything, you'rehitting that peak dude.
Yeah, we were just talking tosome of my friends.
We were talking about this howsomehow people think that you
would be in peak physicalperformance in high school,
because that's the last time alot of people play sports.
But I was like, dude, it startshitting, assuming you stay into

(28:22):
it way after that.
Your body doesn't even developuntil after high school.
Yeah, no, I absolutely hit mypeak fitness in high school.
Maybe true for you.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
Sam, but you know, hey, and there's still time,
baby, I'm only 25.
Exactly, I'm holding out 28'sgoing to be my year.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
He's going to be fighting Jake Paul at 28.
Bro, that's what I'm saying yougot three years to get in this
shape.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
This is content.
This is good for you, this isgood for TV.
Yes, yes, it is.
You schedule a fight.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
I don't know who I'm fighting, but I'm fighting
someone.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
Sam overcame his.

Speaker 4 (29:01):
OnlyFans subscriptions.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
You can overcome anything.
That is true.
What does that mean?
He weaned himself off the.
Oh, you got you just like youstarted getting rid of the
people you were subscribing.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
Yeah, I definitely wasn't a creator but uh I didn't
know how to take it.
I did, I weaned myself off.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
But hey, jake paul, I challenge you to a fight in
2028 baby when we were talkingabout tiktok going away, we
started reminiscing of thedifferent phases of tiktok.
Like away, we startedreminiscing of the different
phases of tiktok, like there'sthese little windows of time
when certain people you saw allthe time, then they disappear.
One of them was in thebeginning and I had to look him
up and it's so funny because Ithought he was gone and he's no,

(29:36):
he's not gone, he's still there, still doing the same fucking
content.
But there was this kid thatwould be like eating chicken
wings and he's like it's alwaysmessy with it.
He's like jake paul, I'll knockyou the fuck out I know exactly
what you're talking about.
I don't know his name, but Iknow exactly what you're talking
about that eating these nicelike dinners, but he would

(29:56):
always just say something aboutjake paul and it never panned
out for him.
I'm talking years of saying itand he's I don't know if he
thought he was going to clearly.
He thought he was going to getthe response, didn't?
And then we look him up andhe's still saying shit, you
gotta respect the commitment toit, though.

Speaker 3 (30:14):
I think he deserves a fight too, Dude, I don't think
a lot of people realize.
So the inauguration's been acouple weeks now but there's a
lot of content of theo von andthe paul brothers and connor
mcgregor.
They all came on the same busoh, yeah, yeah I don't think
people realize like connormcgregor and jake paul had some
serious fucking beef before that, like connor basically said

(30:34):
like if I ever see you, I'mgonna fucking kill you I'm gonna
fucking kill you.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
I don't love them, but I do.
I did find myself afterwatching the documentary about
Jake Paul.
I respected him more than I didpreviously.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
You start to realize how much I took so much of it at
face value of no.
This is who they are Now.
You see the character and themarketing skills and it's like
there's a lot more to this thanpeople think, Love them or hate
them.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
they're very good at self-promotion.

Speaker 4 (31:04):
Speaking of famous heels, dude.
Yeah, everyone needs a heel,and conor mcgregor too yeah, the
same way.
That's.
Conor mcgregor will always holdthe most special place in my
heart because that's when I,like, got into ufc me too.
Me too, conor mcgregor who thefuck is this guy?
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (31:17):
you know, that's like that's.

Speaker 4 (31:18):
I could hear that a million times and never get sick
of hearing it.
You know that guy talking shitis that.
That's like sums up everythingthat I loved about the.
It's incredible, it'sincredible.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
Um, what do you think of bringing it back to music?
What do you think is like thecultural appropriateness of diss
tracks coming and going like doyou, do you think that that is
a thing that's going to leave oris that going to stay?
Well, do you think people is it?
Is it as popular as what itused to be?

Speaker 2 (31:50):
I guess, uh, in in in the scheme of things.
No, it's not as popular, butkind of in uh in my, my small
world.
I've seen it become verypopular in the last couple
months here.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
Yeah, I was just going to bring that up.
So the whole country rap scene.
There's been a massive beef.
You keep up with it, Not really.
No, Fill me in.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Well, don't get me wrong.
I can fill anybody in on itbecause I have been watching it.
You know what I mean.
I like to stay drama-free, butother people's bullshit I could
be a fan you know?

Speaker 1 (32:26):
yeah, totally.
Well, you were just with umrocco and adam calhoun yeah,
there was not that long ago.
Yeah, there was this around thesame time that all this was
going on, because, like is apart of kind of what created it.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
not what created it, but it was like maybe the the
the last word said beforepunches start getting thrown,
kind of scenario I got nothingto do with any of that, but all
of them have a long-term historyright and this is what I've
broken it down and tried tospeak of this in favor of both
of them.
You got Upchurch, who is verycountry.

(33:01):
He is what he says he is.
He built a fan base of loyalpeople that know that he is who
they believe him to be.
Adam Calhoun kind of came up onthe YouTube side of things,
doing content, patriotic contentwith his kid known for saying
whatever the hell he wants,telling it like.
It is kind of people Republican, kind of freedom fighter, if

(33:23):
you will.
They join forces.
They start making musictogether.
All these other people join it.
They make a bunch of bangerstogether.
Everyone believes that they'reall friends and right about the
time that I finally get theopportunity to start meeting
some of these people.
I've only been working at itfor a fucking decade.
It just goes to shit Like thiswhole fucking thing goes to shit

(33:44):
.
And it just goes to shit Likethis whole thing goes to shit.
And you find out that there'sall these things that happened
along the way that they've beenhanging on to, but the up church
was going on the internetsaying that Adam and all these
people are fake and they're notcountry rap and they used him to
get in the genre and and allthese things.
And maybe he's right about somethings, maybe he's not, but
he's more of an internet.
I make videos from home.
I say whatever.

(34:05):
I want no repercussions becauseI'm not going to meet you out
to talk about this, and adam'skind of like, maybe a little way
more actually like well,something needs to be said.
Let's meet up, let's damn makea video about it, like let's you
know.
Let's fight in a parking lot,like he's about meeting up and

(34:25):
whatever the hell happenedbetween them.
I knew something was bubblingbefore that.
Meet up down there and I'm likeyou're damned if you do, you're
damned if you don't.
Because I ain't never beenacknowledged by either side.
Neither one of them has saidhey, I love what you're doing,
heard about you, none of thisshit.
So I'm like you're either gonnamess up your opportunity to
work with one of them or you'renever even going to attempt this

(34:46):
.
This has nothing to do with you.
Rocco was my in.
They had put out a word sayinganybody and everybody that
thinks they have something tocontribute to this country rap
project show up in Nashville.
Hell yeah, and they're like,basically contact somebody.
They wanted to slightly filterit, maybe, but for the most part

(35:06):
everybody was invited.
You just kind of had to callsomebody.
I found a fucking address infucking no time from Wisconsin
and I think I made the farthestcommute, so it's safe to say it
was not hard to find and there'sonly so many studios in
Nashville.
Actually, I went there, had agood time.
Everybody that I met in the twodays I was there was being
super positive.
It was like this whole placebeing filled with people that

(35:30):
all create shit music, all thatstuff all hanging out.
If a song was being played andSam's like, dude, I got
something for this.
They were like go in on thespot, rap it Damn.
And it was kind of intimidatingat first.
I honestly did not move the way.
I should have night one, justkind of taking it all in.
There were some legends in thebuilding, you know, and I'm like

(35:52):
I felt anything but drama assoon as I was there.
I'm like there is no issue herewhatsoever.
So second day for me goes waybetter.
I snapped into action.
I jumped on a song with acouple people and I left.
Better, I snapped into action.
I jumped on a song with acouple people and I left.
Drive all the way back towisconsin.
And all of a sudden thesevideos start dropping about uh
up church is saying uh like,fuck that gathering, that's a

(36:16):
bunch of people that don't like,they're not country, they don't
add to this lane a bunch ofcity boys coming to nashville to
record fuck everyone related.
Well, what he's saying is fuckeverybody.
Maybe these three other guysthat have these big platforms
and the rest of the peopleinvolved are trying to to grow
in music, which is a very hardplace to grow.
So you're just likedeliberately stepping on these

(36:39):
people and like kind of likesetting your people up to kind
of attack people in a weird way.
So all I saw happening waseverybody that left and posted
their photos which shout out torocco.
Rocco was the only personreally down there documenting
the whole thing.
That's so cool so every photobeing shared about the drama or
every video is all him likeeverything that he's all his

(37:00):
shit so it was kind of cool.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
So for the people that don't know, rocco is your
buddy who does photosspecifically, not for adam.
Does he do specifically photosfor adam at like shows and stuff
he he has?

Speaker 2 (37:10):
a good relationship with adam.
He does photos and videos forlike a lot of people, a lot of
people that are touring with himand I know he has done photos
for adam was one of the biggestlike artists to like, give him a
regular like gig and bring themon tour and stuff.
That's so cool.
And Rocco's like if you treatme well, I'll treat you well.
I got nothing but I got yourback forever.
So Adam was good to him in hisearliest stages.

(37:33):
He's got Adam's back, but Iknow specifically he was also a
fan of what Up Church and otherartists were doing.
He always kept up with people,but he's the.
You know, he's the media guy.
He with people, but he's the.
You know, he's the media guy.
He doesn't have to hold theside.
Yeah, so he's just filmingeverything said.
There's signs everywhere sayinglike, don't film stuff, uh, on
your phones, and all thispositive shit was happening.
But when I got back, here'swhere I slightly took a side to

(37:54):
it and I still, like I said, Ifeel impartial to it.
But this is when the real beefstarted.
When I got home and it was themgoing back and forth, like
they're going to start droppingthese diss tracks.
But what I saw out of up churchwas, like anybody that was
there, he was saying, if youwere there, like you're dead to
me.
And that involves so many peoplethat are just trying to get

(38:16):
like their first couple of songsto take off, or like you know
all these people and I was likeseeing him make these videos
saying that everybody there waslike they had to sign these
contracts and this was like asecret move for them to like
take younger artists and likeget them to sign some shit and
like take away their scenario tobe able to put out their own
music and like, dude, you couldbarely catch the big dogs

(38:39):
attention in there.
They had so much going on withall of these like people moving
throughout the studio that theyspent thousands and thousands of
dollars to rent for like 14days.
It's unheard of.
I've never heard anyone do itin any genre.
So now I got a discrepancy withjust the way that he's saying
it went down when he wasn'tthere and he's saying nobody
told me where it was.

(38:59):
It's in his hometown and heknows, like all of these people.
I know that in the snap of afinger he could have been there.
He knows exactly that he couldhave and he would have been
embraced with open arms.
It was a shame that he didn't,but all he did is bash this
project for three weeks straightsince we did it.
So everybody that got caught inthe crossfire, all these people

(39:21):
that were there, have peopleshowing up to their comments and
like eating them alive becausethey're backing up one side or
the other.
They got the church gang andluckily, or the other side, but
luckily for me.
I realized pretty early like Idid not build my fan base off
this.
Most people don't even considerme country rap.
I just felt I have something tocontribute totally yeah and so

(39:42):
none of these people are comingto my comments, but I'm seeing
it happen other people thatdon't deserve it that were there
helping, being cool and theseguys deserve credit for putting
it on in the fucking first place.
I can't even imagine what itwould take for me to be like all
right, I'm gonna throw thisfucking event.
That's basically like gonnagive anybody in the country a
chance to come jump on the clouttrain if you want, like come
get on this giant album likethey.

(40:04):
That's helping out youngerartists like hell good yeah and
those guys aren't perfect either.
I don't know anything about whatthey did to really piss off the
other side, but now the disstracks start dropping, and this
is when it was the point of noreturn up church, adam up church
, adam up church, diss track,diss track, diss track.
And then other artists startjoining.

(40:25):
Now other people see youmentioned him and your platform
can blow up, and I was like I'lltell you this right now.
I was there at the, the, theget down.
I came back I saw everybodytagging it.
I realized you probably couldgain some serious views on
YouTube if you mentioned thisand I chose not to for the one.
I'm impartial to it.

(40:46):
I'm not taking a side.
I love both of those guys'music.
I want to collaborate with bothof them.
I don't think that can happennow.
It might have gone too far.
So are the diss tracks popular?
I don't know, but I'll tell youwhat.
They came back hard for thisand they both said some shit you
don't come back from well, andfrom what I understand, like
what the drake and kendrick beefwas for rap.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
Music like that is, you know, the up church adam of
country rap.
So like it's been massive I.

Speaker 4 (41:15):
I have nothing.
I have not heard a single oneof these diss track up church
adam either one of them.
Has anyone called anyone apedophile yet?
Because that seems to be thefucking hard line in the sand
with diss tracks these days,whoever calls the other anyone a
pedophile.
Yet, because that seems to bethe fucking hard line in the
sand with diss tracks these days, whoever calls the other guy a
pedophile first wins.
I don't know it's crazy thatyou can say it without having to
back it up.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
I think someone did mention you're the country
version of Diddy, I thinksomeone said that that's the
same thing.
People are going at eachother's old ladies.
People are going at eachother's drugs of choice thing.
People were going at eachother's old ladies.
People were going at eachother's drugs of choice.
People were going at eachother's the little things you
know about each other from toursthat you did and that you or
your old lady might not knowabout.

(41:53):
Videos of private studiosessions came out.

Speaker 3 (41:59):
They were letting it all out.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Some people got caught in the crossfire, for
instance Jelly Roll.
He's long since left thecountry rap world.
He's in the country world andhe's probably got a decent hold
on you know his pr team.
You know what I mean like anyscandals coming out today, you
know, and all of a sudden theyreleased this like 30 minute
video of them all bullshittingin the studio one night and you

(42:23):
can tell by the framing thatit's like somebody's camera like
way low, does not look likeanything that anybody knew they
were on and people were justsaying you like you're talking
to your bros.

Speaker 4 (42:36):
Nothing like too bad, but like still pretty bad shit
that you say and like maybedon't say it on a fucking camera
like it's kind of there's aline, yeah and so they're
dropping this shit or whatever.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
And I just I saw from a ways away.
I was like okay, if thishappened in my own like personal
friend world, obviously you'dhave to respond or you'd have to
go completely ghost and sayabsolutely nothing, because now
you're bringing up personal shitand I got no beef with people
like that.
So I really, really could notjoin it, Even though I was at

(43:05):
the event.
I was like that does not justautomatically enter me into the
ring for this.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
It's not.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
And it was so positive.
Uh, the three big artists thatwere there was Adam Calhoun,
demon Jones and broad.
Next, these three guys put upthe money, got the studio.
These guys got millions andmillions and millions of streams
.
They do not need to be doingthis.
And they were sitting rightthere with you Like, like if you
were writing a verse or youwere in there recording.

(43:34):
I seen them sit there rightwith a couple of people as they
recorded, getting them to dobetter takes.
Hey, I would do it like this.
Hey, that that's good, butthat's not really working out
for this.
Why don't you go upstairs writethat a little bit harder?
They were coaching each otherlike dude, this is how I do it.

(43:55):
Like people were giving awayfree advice, like this this is
how I.

Speaker 4 (43:57):
It's unheard of now.
You probably never get to seethat like in-person
collaborative effort everanymore.
Yes, it doesn't exist anymore.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
It was so cool and we're all like taking photos
together and like like it reallyreally felt cool because I felt
like invisible to these peoplefor years.
Like, if you can imagine, I'mgaining like thousands and
thousands of uh followers andstreams and and doing festivals
with like peers of theirs, likeI work with this person, I open

(44:26):
up for this person, and I justkept thinking like I would like
I'll get to meet these peoplesooner or later.
It took about 10 years ofmaking music, but four years
from when I started reallypushing it to like actually
meeting them and there's justthis weird cloud over it
immediately going there likeyou're gonna piss off like the
big bad wolf or something.
I just thought that was a bigshame because, yeah, it probably

(44:50):
drew a bunch of attention to itthat some people are going to
use, but it just felt like whydoes this have to implode right
now?
Right, yeah?

Speaker 1 (44:57):
this eliminates half of who I want to network with
right off the rip it does, andand you also know like it's
pretty easy to tell like kind ofwho's associated with who.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
So like, if you do a song with this person, you're
gonna make that person mad andI'm like I just don't operate
that way.
I don't even think that deepabout it.
I almost had no collaborationsup until a couple years ago, and
for different reasons.
Because you find things outabout people and all of a sudden
you're like man, that's thatdude I did that song with, I
didn't know he, I didn't know hehad that in him, you know,

(45:26):
whatever.
But now now it's like a littlebit of a pissing match.
But the diss track thing just asa fan, just as a fan of music
and I was a fan of both of themit was kind of fun to watch
because some really funny shithappened of it.
And then the ultimate, thekicker of it I thought this was
I hope this is the end of it,but this was the coolest
culmination of it Hate track,hate track, hate track, hate

(45:49):
track.
Rocco gets the opportunity togo uh, with who the fuck is just
in time to a walmart and hesaid my video guy won't come in
there with me and film likepublic stuff.
He's like social anxiety androcco's like I'll do it.
Yeah, so he's got a videobasically taking comedic relief
on the whole thing.

(46:09):
And one thing that up church didthat in one of the diss tracks.
He stopped and went acapellaand then adam did it to like try
to like top that.
He did it and then they allkind of started making fun of
being acapella.
Like it was just weird, likeone person would do something,
then the other person would,then everybody comments it's a
weird space.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, well, he's like all right, well, you obviously got to go
acapella.

(46:29):
So he plays like 30 seconds ofa beat, then proceeds to rap for
like seven minutes straight,saying just nonsense, like it's
like he's rhyming avocado andsqueegee and like all these
things, like just trying to like.
You know, I don't know likeeminem used to do that, like
like you're almost like provingthat you can like rap harder
than anybody.
Well, up church did that on oneof the tracks and then you got

(46:52):
justin kind of making thiscomedic relief of it while in a
fucking walmart there's peoplewalking behind them and shit.
You can imagine rockogimballing down the aisles and
stuff they're both dressedoutrageous.
You got to check the video outbut he at least took like a
comedy take and this is this iswhat I'll say about it to finish
it up because it is a longtopic.
I realized is the comments wasthe first unanimous, like the

(47:17):
church fans loved it and thecalhoun fans loved it.
They said, no matter whatfucking side you on, this is
fucking funny.
And I was like some, if youdon't have that person, that
person that comes in and it'slike just makes a little bit of
a fucking joke about something.
Like, like, like in high schoolI a little bit of a fucking
joke about something.
Like in high school.
I remember I got in a fistfight with a kid and we both had
to go back to the same party.
Right there's one elephant inthe room.

(47:39):
He's got his eyes swollen outto here.
One guy walks in.
Everybody's silent about this,nobody can say nothing to this
kid.
And then one guy comes in.

Speaker 3 (47:47):
He's like what the?

Speaker 2 (47:47):
hell happened to your face, frank everybody starts
laughing.
The party goes back to normal.
It was like we never fought,right.
That's what he did.
He showed up, he made a funnycomedic video about the whole
beef because really, at the endof the day, it is gonna it's
gonna last a long time.
It's gonna take money away frompeople, it's gonna take
opportunities away from people.
It's gonna make festivals wantto book this group of people

(48:10):
over another one and like wecan't add him because you know
what'll happen.
And I was like, as someonewho's just scratching the
surface, I was like man, what aletdown, because I like both of
these guys.
All the songs they did togetherI always had in my my playlist
and shit.
So I was like man, what a, whata shitty scenario.
But the difference was the lastthing I'll say up church

(48:33):
awesome dude, fucking, supertalented, one of the best to do
it he fucking took a stance ofI'm not gonna fucking, there's
no recourse for this.
I'm, I'm against this guy forlife.
And adam proceeded to still havethe get together to help these
people.
So all I can know is the personI actually met and that's the
guy that.
Fucking.

(48:53):
Let me walk into a studio,right, a bunch of people record
a fucking song and hang outthere for two fucking days
straight when I didn'tnecessarily you know, maybe in
my mind I did something to proveto be able to be in there, but
I didn't get any cosign to bethere.
It was a.
You got to show up and actuallyshow up, yeah, when you're
there.
They were kind of tellingpeople if you, if you lingered

(49:15):
around too much and you didn'tact.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
You were kicking you out.
Just what are you doing?

Speaker 2 (49:20):
weird so everybody that was there was working, so
I'm like I can't take a side.
But it's pretty easy to seewhat side you're on when the one
side is helping everybody thatwanted to join and the other
side's making videos talkingshit.
So I'm like if that was justtwo of my local friends, I'd
tell the one that's doingnothing but talking shit, just
shut up.
You're kind of ruining this foreverybody.

(49:41):
You know what I mean, butbecause it's these like big
internet people.
You have to watch what you saybecause nobody wants to get
their shit canceled.
But at the end of the day, youcan't be canceled if, if you
know, if you don't give a fuck,yeah, bring us, bring us back
into that studio.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
That had to feel like so inspiring.
And this like really likerelight a fire under your ass
like these are the guys that aredoing exactly what I want to do
, like how cool to be in a spacelike that and just working with
these guys side by side.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
I couldn't imagine what that felt like for you know
, for me, like looking up tothese guys specifically, it was
like being in the room with justa bunch of fucking rock stars,
like like, I've seen them inshows where, like, I'm there as
a, like, I bought a ticket to belike this you know what I mean
not like a well, we playedtogether on this lineup.
These are the big artists in inthe the space that I'm working

(50:34):
with, and I was like the wholeway down there I'm thinking
about this.
Obviously, I had like 13 hoursto think about it.
Get down there, walk in thefucking place and I feel like
I'm gonna be like questioned orlike just something.
Yeah, I walked in.
There was like four peoplesitting on a couch, like walked
past them.
I got in another room seeingall these people sitting there.

(50:55):
That if, even if you didn'tknow him, you kind of recognize
him from shit and you're like,oh my god, like dang, and that's
kind of where I felt likemyself like slightly shell up
day one you know like just kindof like what am I doing here?
and every photo that I seemyself day one, I'm kind of like
just kind of stonewalled likeI'm just kind of don't know what
to do.

(51:15):
I get it and broadnax uh, reallycool, like for a, for a bigger
artist.
He like pulled me aside and hewas like hey, I just want to
tell you like I'm really gladthat you're here and I just kind
of want to know like why, whydidn't you, why didn't you snap
into something today?
And I was like, honestly, likeI just didn't like see my moment

(51:36):
, and when a song was reallygood, like 10 people would try
to get on it, and if a songreally wasn't that good yo,
nobody wants this it made kindof the people still stagnant
like look like you didn't wantto join something.
So you're kind of like publiclylike pass, you know, and it was
like you never knew whose songjoin something.
So you're kind of like publiclylike pass, you know, and it was
like you never knew whose songit was.

(51:57):
So it was kind of like a weirdscenario.
But I went back and I thoughtabout that shit like hard as
fuck after the first night, wentback to my hotel, did not go
out at all when I was down there, so like it was like business
only.
And I came back the next daywith like four things written
down that were like like roughideas to get into something.
I was like I'm not driving backto Wisconsin with the the

(52:19):
mentality of like I should havedid this or I should have jumped
on some, so I've.
I was like maybe a little tooeager and then this kid drops
this epic song and I just like,yup, I'm getting on this one.
I went upstairs, I wrote a part.
I came downstairs all thesepeople I'll try to paint the
picture big glass window lookingat the microphone.

(52:39):
The person on the microphonecan't hear anything other than
the beat, but you can see allthe people in the lounge.
They can hear every singlething that you say breathe, like
anything that you do.
So you go up there and you slayit.
It's like a performance tothese people.
Yeah, if you go up there andyou bomb it, you don't know what
they're saying about you outthere.

(53:01):
So, like that, the whole day oflike previously seeing I saw
some people go in there and dobetter than others.
Some people did good, somepeople did not so good, and Some
people did good, some peopledid not so good and I was just
like fuck man, like I got tofucking do this.
I walked in there, dropped asimple verse, loved it came out
and Brodnax was the first personI seen.
He's the guy that kind of gaveme the inspiration to be better

(53:22):
the next day and he was likehe's got deep Louisiana accent.
He's like scared for whatScared?
for what and I was just like Idon't know man like and like I
gave him a high five and therewas all these people out there
afterwards and they kind of uhwere like dude, that was, that
was fucking sick and I was likelike I just didn't really know

(53:45):
what the fuck was going on andthat kind of rode that high for
a while.
I fucking collaborated on someother stuff.
I didn didn't get on anything,but I just kind of helped out,
met some people Everybody wascool and then towards the end of
that night, just talking tosome of the OGs that were in
there, they were like hey, man,it's cool that you came down

(54:07):
here, it's cool that you wantedto be a part of this.
Thank you, they're telling us.
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
That's so badass.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
It was, they were like thank you for caring about
it.
Enough to come down here, andthere's no guarantees that
anybody's going to be on this.
Just because you recordeddoesn't mean that it's going to
be on it, but there's a chancethat it will be.
So stay tuned.
And they said there's a goodchance that if it doesn't go on
this, we'll just like giveeverybody their shit and like

(54:33):
you can, oh, that's awesome yeahyou can put that song out.
It was recorded in a a reallynice studio so that's so bad,
you won't regret that.
And uh, they, they gave likesome little advice to everybody,
that kind of left.
And then, uh, you could tell Iwas there on like day nine or
something.
You could tell they wereexhausted.
Yeah, beat up.
I can't even imagineentertaining.
It's crazy the amount of peoplethat.

(54:55):
I forgot the number, they said,but it's hundreds that showed
up throughout the 14 days.
So it was, it was wild.
It was cool to see.
They were super great to me.
I was in a little bit of stateof shock, just like obviously I
fucking deserve to be there.
It took me a while to convincemyself that.
But standing in a room of allthese people, there was people

(55:15):
in there that you don't evenknow, zero social media
following, probably not good atmarketing themselves and they
went in the microphone and likesnapped talk about pressure.
You're the one that they haveheard of you.
There's some of these peoplehave heard of you.
I got told by at least a couplepeople and they're like we, we
know who you are damn well, nowthe pressure's really on because
, you go out there and you rap.

Speaker 4 (55:36):
There's an expectation, you're better like
if nobody knows who you are, youhave nothing to lose at that
point, right?
It's like if I go in there andsuck, everyone expect me.
Yeah, but as soon as someone'slike I like your shit.
Then it's like oh, now if I goin there and suck, everyone's
gonna be like oh, I was wrongthis sounds like it was like
country rap beast games almostthe stakes are high.

Speaker 3 (55:53):
If you do good like you got there.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
There's so much opportunity here do it it was.
It was literally so fuckingsick to witness like basically,
like like they had, they didn'thave a system down for how it
was going to go down, so this iskind of how it was working when
I was there.
Most artists will have songs onthem that are like half done,
three quarters done.
You got the hook on it or likea verse and you just don't know

(56:15):
the direction, but it's likeit's.
Someone could tell that this isa song.
People were just bringing outthese that they have and like yo
, what did anybody think aboutthis?
And you're just hearing likeeverybody's like quarter half
done, shit.
And you could tell prettyeasily, like yo, if you would've
just sent this to me inWisconsin, I would've got on
this immediately and people weregetting up snapping into action

(56:39):
.
And you start to see how peoplework.
Some people went in there andfreestyled like literally did it
, took a piece of the last one,left it in there do another
piece, another piece.
Some people was right off thetop of the dome the whole time.
Some people went upstairs andwrote.
Some people be holding thephone there.
You know, some people probablyhad somebody else write it for
him I don't know, but likeeverybody in there was like

(57:00):
working different but togetherand I never saw one person a lot
of different creative processesand for sure it's definitely
seeing people's writing styles.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
I'm sure has to be like damn, that's how you
fucking do that the one kid, uh,leroy big.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
Specifically, I wanted to meet him for a long
time it's funny ass, fucking doit authentic as they come from
tennessee and seen him on thesteps when I got there.
I know who he is.
I do not expect him to know whoI am, and he's like he's got a
big old blunt in his hand.
He's like I know, you, let methink of it.
Let me think of it, and I waslike he ain't gonna get it, like

(57:36):
I.
Just I was like there's no wayand all he says is prescott.
And I was like oh shit fairenough, brother, like like fuck,
yeah, dude, and, and weproceeded to bullshit a little
bit more than the rest of theguys, like when I was around him
he seems like I already kind ofknew him, is what it felt like.
But that kid went in there.
They're like I think you'regonna like this song.

(57:57):
They played it for him.
He just gets right up.
Yep, he walked in therefreestyle, this whole part, no
paper, no nothing.
He's like saint, he's likeworking this out in front of
people.
That's a very vulnerable way tobe like the juice world of
country rap yeah, just on thespot coming up with this, where
I'm a fast writer, I getcompliments.
Uh, people will be like, man,you come with that quick.
But I still needed to go writeit.

(58:18):
I still needed to be in my ownhead.
I work out my cadence a littlebit, I know how I'm gonna come
in, so it sounds like a littlebit better when I present it.
He's like I don't give a shit,dude, I'm gonna go in there and
just wing this and it soundedgood.
They end up using like a hugechunk of what he did just off
the top of his dome and I onlywork with a couple people so I

(58:40):
never saw that before.
So it was.
It was cool to watch, butoverall positive experience.
I was stoked to be a part of itor be allowed in the freaking
door and it was just a shame tosee kind of that.
Uh, because of a beef, thenarrative was able to be flipped
that it was something that itwasn't, because they said not
only that, it was something theywere like if everybody got

(59:02):
signed on to a record deal whenthey were there, then maybe I
misspoke of saying that my versewas bombed because I did not
get offered.
Maybe they did maybe they did,but nobody offered me shit.
So I thought you know that's alie and it seemed like a way to
paint it as a bad scenario.
And I don't know how you couldreally paint that in a bad

(59:24):
scenario, because I don't knowmany people that are already
successful that reach back thatway and they're gonna gain from
it too, because they got a bunchof talented people that
basically hand them their bestshit, but they already got the
streams.
They didn't even need no one tohand them their best shit.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
Like it's a great idea because you, it's.
It's a win-win situation.
You're already big, you alreadyhave a big following.
But the benefit of not onlyputting on someone who's trying
but also collaboratively puttingon someone that can also boost
your platform, that's alreadybig and doing it together Like
it's just win, win, yeah, and itonly makes sense they gave like

(59:58):
a little speech at thebeginning.

Speaker 2 (59:59):
It was kind of cool.
Adam Calhoun, specifically hewas like I just want to let
everybody in this room know,like I don't give a fuck about
your social media.
So like, if you're in here, yougot 500,000 followers, 6
million, three.
I don't care.
I care if you can perform now,like if you can rap, if you can

(01:00:21):
sing, if you can do it right now, that's all that matters.
And I was like that's actuallyvery encouraging to the person
that doesn't have much.
But I also see as someone thatit took me a while to get to
this point.
I'm like that's awesome becauseit shouldn't matter if you got
three followers and you can justwrap your damn, you can wrap

(01:00:42):
these people into oblivion thenit shouldn't matter.
And they had people out there.
There was a 17 year old kid.
His dad brought him in bk truly, look him up.
Shout out bk, truly, that's mydog, 17 years old.
His dad comes in.
I thought they were bothrappers the way they look.
He's like yeah I got my son inhere.
I'm thinking about how long ittook me to get my dad's approval

(01:01:02):
that I even make rap music andthis guy's dad's bringing him to
to rap gigs to like get upthere with with some of the big
dogs.
So badass he handed me a CD Shit.
I was like man.
It took me until my mid-20s toget my shit together putting out
music consistently.
You got a damn album at 17.
I imagine, if you keep yourhead screwed on straight.

(01:01:23):
And then I came out and theywere filming a piece of content.
Adam sat down with them and wasgiving these little kids advice
on this shit.
So it's bigger than just.
I mean.
There was people there thatwere in their 40s.
There was people there thatwere 17.
That's crazy.
It's a wide range of peoplethat want to participate on this
.
So I'm going to look at it aspositive and I hope to hear

(01:01:44):
about some of the shit that wedid there soon.
Instead of all the drama, I'mlike I want to hear some of the
songs.
They of all the drama.
I'm like I want to hear some ofthe songs.
Totally.
They ain't mentioned it becausethe the beef took.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
Totally no, I know obviously it moves slow in a
setting like that, but like, howlong do you think some of these
are going to take to getreleased?

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
they said well, so they said there was like it's
because there's so many peoplethat showed up.
They said there was like 60something songs that got done
and that 60 songs ain't going on.
The album so they have to do theprocess of filtering through
that think.
Is this something that shouldbe on this and we just need to
join it?
Is this a song that's alreadydone and good?
Or is this a song that we letthem record there but like this?

(01:02:25):
Ain't it so that they saidsomething like summer?
But I just can't wait to hearit because I kind of want to
know if we made it and I also,like, if we didn't, I know that
the two, the guys that I got onthe song with, we'll put that
shit out hell yeah, dude, dude,speaking of making it, because I
I'd be damned if I didn't bringthis up before this ends.

Speaker 3 (01:02:45):
I could tell cody over here is getting a little
squirrely.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
I'm not getting squirrely dude, I'm here for the
long haul, I'm a marathon, youmean ends before a bathroom
break or ends.

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
We're already hitting an hour.
This has been flying by.
We're in it for the long haul.

Speaker 4 (01:03:01):
The hour rule doesn't apply when DPK is here.
It never has once.
No, it doesn't apply, we havethat rule when it's a boys
episode.

Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
When we get Travis in the building.
The our rule is not even in mymind right, absolutely.
And with that in mind, I'mgonna say we need to take a
bathroom break and as soon as weget back.
We're addressing you going onstage with fred durst yeah, I
forgot about that, sam.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
What were you gonna ask before we went to bathroom
Locked?

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
back in Cam.
Got a good change in Change outCam's diaper.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
Change Mitch's diaper .
We're ready to roll again.

Speaker 4 (01:03:37):
I've never felt so fresh.

Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
Dude, I've been waiting to address this.
When you went on stage withFred Durst, that was
un-fucking-believable.
I think I voted 100 times foryou.

Speaker 4 (01:03:51):
Oh yeah, Thank you.
I was going to say I don't knowif it would let me vote
multiple times.
I don't know if they werecounting, but I sat on lunch at
work one day in my truck and itwas like a half-hour straight.
I was just bored.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
It was a couple days in a row I just submitted.
As many times I was likethere's no way that he is not
not gonna get the chance to dothis this is unbelievable so for
people that don't know what wasthe whole deal.
You won a contest with 93x.
Yeah, to go up on stage withfred durst, chance to oh, chance
to do it there was.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
There was no guarantee all the way up until
the moment it happened.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
No guarantee, and they said that did they make
that clear?
Yeah, very clear, like, hey, hemight.

Speaker 4 (01:04:28):
It was very much like you get to go hang out with him
, and if he thinks that it's agood idea, then he'll do it yeah
, yeah, and they, they.

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
There was a weird terminology that made it pretty
known that you, if both of you,come up there and for whatever
reason, they don't think,because as a performer I knew
that the whole time.
I knew that you could make avideo, you could do so good, you
could get all the votes, andthat don't fucking mean that you
could stand in front of people,let alone how many people were

(01:04:56):
there.
So anyways, yeah, uh, the.
I got about maybe four daysnotice on the deadline.
My buddy told me about it andI've been a limp biscuit fan
forever, but I will admit I didnot know that song, which makes
it kind of cooler Because, likejust the one strength that I've
always had is memorization, andI started mowing the lawn

(01:05:18):
outside.
I'm listening to the song overand over and over and over and
over, back to back to backrepetition.
I got it pretty close to downafter the first night.
After two nights, I'm like nowI got to focus on the video,
made a video, got it in in thenick of time.
Video is fun.
Which one was it?
Was it Dad Vibes or what it was?
Turn it Up Bitch, turn it UpBitch.

Speaker 4 (01:05:36):
Okay, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
Same album.
Yeah.
So they're like you got to haveall these votes for these
videos and they said it's yourapping to the song.
But they didn't say, like doyou find the instrumental?
Do you rap over the songplaying in the background?
Do you make a music video whereyou're lip syncing it?
There's no details on thisbecause I don't think that they

(01:05:57):
planned on needing to elaboratethat, and so, anyways, I was
like I'm just going to make it,how I would post it on YouTube,
like if I was going to make thisor whatever.
So I did a combination of bothI was rapping it into my mic
with the song also playing, andso you could hear both of them,
but you can hear his song aswell.

(01:06:17):
Some people chose to just wrapit in front of their house, you
know, whatever.
And the voting process was theysaid that not like.
Everybody said like same as youguys, and I do appreciate that.
Like to the moon and back votea thousand times, whatever.
It was like one vote per personper day.
Anything more than that'sconsidered spam.
I don't know if they if theyjust said that or not, but

(01:06:38):
that's what it said.
So one vote per day, maybe theyonly count one right, I had time
to kill anyway everyone kepttelling me it's letting us vote,
so they kept doing it.
Yeah, but you, so you getthrough that.
And then they refined it downto, I think, three videos and
then now it was no.
The first one was 93X voted.

Speaker 4 (01:06:59):
The second one they picked and then you got like it
was like a top five or top 10thing.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
And then you can vote Top five and then the top three
got sent to yeah.
Top two got to go to the actualevent.
You go there Now.
Here's where the story getsfucking crazy.
You know actual event.
You go there now.
Here's where the story getsfucking crazy.
You know if you're gonna rapbattle against somebody, you
know what I mean like you kindof don't.
You know, speaking of rap beef,you know what I mean.
It's in your best interest toactually not like the person or

(01:07:25):
it's gonna seem like a littleweird that you gotta, you know,
rap against each other, kind oflike I gotta disingenuous, I
gotta take what you want, you'regonna take what I want.
You gotta feel that way you knowwhat I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:07:35):
You gotta make them the villain yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
So right off the rip they're like sorry, guys, to let
you know that we don't havelike all that much planned here.
Uh, until the actual momentwe're kind of in the gray.
So, like, just bear with us.
So we're gonna kind of justwatch you guys and you're just
going to sit here, because wejust got you backstage at a limp
biscuit concert.
We can't just let you free.
So we're sit togetherimmediately, right, and it's me,

(01:08:01):
caroline, him and his friend,and they're nice as fuck.
So am I, so is caroline, so weget along.
Right after rip.
They're both from Somerset, thetown we're in where we get to
bullshit, and they they hadalready looked me up, so they
were like you got any music shitgoing on.
I was like this isn't the way Iseen this going down.

(01:08:21):
You wanted to hate this guy.
Well, I know I don't have it inme to hate anybody but I.
It would have been beneficialfor me to think that he was a
tool, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:08:33):
You were on a mission .

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
It would have been easier.
Yeah, cause I knew I was.
I had to go hard or whatever.
So, anyways, what ends uphappening was I'm just going to
tell the whole story because itthe way it unfolded.
No one really got to see thispart, so they didn't really know
how to tell us when he wasgoing to come, how it was going

(01:08:58):
to go down.
What you really had to do wasit going to be?
The concerts already hadstarted, like the open airs.
Cory feldman fucking shout outto goonies.
Uh, they had some wild entryartists riff, raff, fucking
bones.

Speaker 4 (01:09:03):
I don't know if you know what was the event.
Was it loser fest or loserloserville tour?

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
yeah, yeah, and it was fucking sick dude like
different bands that you justdid not see all going together,
but he like hand-picked that'swhat made the beauty of it.

Speaker 4 (01:09:18):
That's why it's like loserville.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
It's all these like outcast crazy yeah kind of
out-of-pocket bands exactly, andyou know, obviously, growing up
limb biscuit, was that, the,the, the wild card of the group.
So, anyways, caroline goes tothe bathroom and she comes
walking out and I always thoughtone of the cutest things about
her is she does not do well withlike knowing who people are.
I do so anyways.

(01:09:41):
You know she also didn't growup in the same exact era as me.
She's five years younger.
So I'm out there by myself withthis kid, and, and the other
kid, the, and the 93x lady.
And then, uh, fred, just comewalking up street clothes,
shorts, fucking, nike cortez ison little wrangler hat.
And I was like oh shit.

(01:10:02):
And I like kind of stood up andI was like what's up?
And he was like just as calm aspossible.
He's like hey guys, what's up?
And caroline walks up.
Immediately she sees us, usstanding.
So she's like what's up, guys,we going somewhere.
And I was like Caroline, thisis Fred.
And she, at least the nameclicked.

Speaker 3 (01:10:19):
She's like oh, hi, and he's like what's up guys?

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
And then he just tries to explain to us.
He's like so like we've neverdone anything like this before.
You guys obviously have tounderstand that it's risky.
You guys can rap, you got here.
That's awesome.
If you need any uh, lyricdiscrepancies or you want to
know, like, what a certain wordis, let me know.
But the way we're going to doit is we're going to have each

(01:10:46):
one of you rap the song, notgoing to tell you when, and, uh,
if you, if you got it, then wemight go out there and I just
want to make sure we have somechemistry so it's not going to
be a failure, because I want tokind of do.
I want this totally sweet yeahand so I was just, you know, I
just kind of mind on the mission.
I wasn't saying much at thatmoment.
And then he's like you guyswant to go watch the opening

(01:11:08):
bands.
Like I hand selected these guys, so it'd be, it'd be cool to go
watch them.
And I was just like it's justanother detail of like,
obviously I fucking want to dothat out, mr Fred Durst, like I
want to watch all that.
But like, until we do thechallenge, it's hard for me to
focus.
Yeah, you're on edge big time.
So we go up on stage, we watchall the bands.

(01:11:29):
First guy to go up there nateno face.
Never seen anything like this.
The guy is playing his own uhkeyboard like a like a
california moog sound likealmost like a dr dre kind of uh
beats.
But he's got just a microphoneplugged into it and he's like
his own fucking band.
He takes the microphone rightafter rip and starts smashing it
into his head everywhere oh mygod, fred's.

(01:11:51):
Of all people, fred durst isfreaked out.
He's like a guy's on tour stopone like what are we doing?
And he's like trying to getthis guy to look at him so he
can throw him band-aids andstuff and like things are
getting weird in this, likelimbo time and out of nowhere.
At some point he was like tapsme on the shoulder and he's like

(01:12:13):
hey, come with me.
He's like all right, so we walkaround the corner.
Other people are playingBackside of the stage, there's
people walking by with cratesand shit and his drummer comes
walking up john otto.
And I've also obviouslylistened to since I was a kid.
I know all these guys and he'slike hey, this is my, my drummer
, john, and I was like I, I'mnot gonna sit here and act like
I don't know exactly who you are.

(01:12:34):
I was like what's up, dog I'vebeen listening to y'all shit for
way too long, uh, longer than Ishould have been allowed to, I
think I said, and they were likeall right, man, hey, here's
what we're gonna do, right, like, um, what would you do if we
were like I'm gonna make anannouncement and like I just did
not know that they were justgonna snap right into that, like
that.
But I was ready, so, like asthey did.

(01:12:56):
You know, I'm like this crackerain't slouching, got the flow,
keep the big boys bouncing.
And I just and I was like mymind is thinking of the lyrics
and about other shit at the sametime, like I'm thinking about
other things.
And I'm thinking about you know, am I supposed to stop halfway?
All these people carrying cratesare like why is this guy
rapping this part?

(01:13:17):
But he's also standing with theheadliner.
So like no one was informed ofwhat was supposed to be
happening.
And, uh, I wrapped the wholething all the way through, the
whole first verse or whateverlike, right in front of him,
you're just the drummer and Fredand all these people are
walking around us.
We didn't go in a room, wedidn't go anywhere.
We were like literally justslightly backstage.
And the, where we were likeliterally just slightly

(01:13:40):
backstage and the music isblasting from other bands beats
that have nothing to do withthis.

Speaker 4 (01:13:43):
So you're just acapella ripping a song that you
learned last week, yeah, yeah,with a full-blown band going on
behind you like in front of thechildhood, yeah, and we're fred,
fucking durst like

Speaker 2 (01:13:53):
seriously.
I was like like there was somuch going on I literally
thought I asked caroline waslike how long was that?
I ate like some like chickenpot pie in the fridge and I'm a
leftovers guy.
And I was like how long wasthat in there?
And she's like why are youasking me that right now?
And I was like because I have afeeling in my stomach I have

(01:14:14):
never had food poisoning.
But I'm like something ishappening and she's like I think
this is just the biggest thingthat you've ever done and it
just be like that.
I'm like, oh, yeah, cause, likethe second, like I'll tell I'll
finish that part at the end ofthis or whatever.
But the second everything wasdone, it was gone, like didn't
feel that no more, no more.

(01:14:38):
So clearly this was no foodpoisoning.
So anyways, I wrapped this partto them or whatever, and they
were like they were stoked aboutit.
I got a great reaction fromthem.
If I could have like a had thatfilmed or b just kind of like
just could marinate in thatmoment forever that moment, not
even the performance, I could Icould live on that part, just
wrapping it to them, yeah, andseeing them like kind of like
damn son he's got it.

(01:14:59):
I got into it like I wasperforming it and they, uh, so
they bring me back, say nothing.
He's asking me how do you do?
And I wasn't gonna lie to him.
I straight up said I was like Idon't really know how to gauge
it, but I didn't mess up asingle word.
I feel good about it.
They come and grab him, he goesout there, comes back.

(01:15:20):
He's like bro, I think you gotthis and I was like.
I was like it was kind of feltlike a little defeating, almost.
I was like what, why are yousaying that now?
Are you reverse psychology inme, like I just really didn't
know because no one said nothing.
Right that the he's.
Well, I didn't expect him tojust hit me like that and I kind

(01:15:42):
of stopped halfway in the song,like I did the first verse and
I just thought to stop and Iknew in that moment one thing I
have learned while performing isno matter what you do, no
matter if you mess up, the soundsystem goes or whatever, if
things happen, you don't stopEver.
Just keep rolling and goodthings will happen.

(01:16:04):
You'll find your way back, andpeople learn that as they
perform.

Speaker 3 (01:16:07):
And the crowd respects it too, Like if
something happens even if it'slike an audio malfunction if you
start ripping out acapellas.

Speaker 4 (01:16:14):
Can we talk about it?

Speaker 3 (01:16:17):
Can we talk about Mariah Carey?
Well, that's the first thingthat came to mind where she's
just at the inauguration.
She's like well, fuck it, Mightas well rip her acapella and
everyone starts cheering.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
Oh, carrie Underwood, Carrie Underwood, my bad, my
bad, yeah, no for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:16:28):
Yeah she's like looking around, like why are
they messing up this music rightnow?
She's or at least one of thosethings.
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:16:37):
I didn't watch it, did her mic cut or what?

Speaker 4 (01:16:39):
No, they had no audio , no music in the background.
They couldn't get the fuckingspeakers to work.

Speaker 3 (01:16:43):
Oh my God To sing.

Speaker 2 (01:16:43):
America the Beautiful .
It started and then it shut up.
She just grabs the mic and shegoes.

Speaker 4 (01:16:46):
Well, do you guys know the words?
Help me out and just rip thewhole thing acapella.

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
Whoa, it was unbelievable.
So I knew that these guysaren't going to go like, let's
say, I stop halfway and they'relike, hey, I was hoping that
you'd do the second verse.
All right, can I do it?
No, it's just like a tinymoment of time to these people.
It's really not their biggestpriority either.

Speaker 3 (01:17:08):
Oh yeah, it's up to them.
You've got a lot going on, alot going on.

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
Yeah, so anyways, I do my part.
He and the 93X girl's like Istill don't know what's going to
happen.
Then they come up and theystart telling us that we're both
going to do it.
She's telling us that, Nobodytold us that, or whatever, so I
think they're going to have youboth do it.
Oh my God.
And we're like both of us kindof felt weird about it.

(01:17:33):
You could tell it was like okay, Like it's definitely a decent
compromise.

Speaker 1 (01:17:46):
Because I didn't want him to go home empty-handed
either.
I liked him right, I still do,but uh, obviously I want to do
the whole thing myself,rightfully, so yeah, you're kind
of taking the full moment awayfrom one of you.
Yeah, by doing it both togetheryeah.

Speaker 2 (01:17:51):
So respectfully to him he said, uh, if you, if we
both do it, what verse you want?
And the second verse just justgoes a lot harder.
It harder, it's more of ashowcase.
So I was like, well, if you'reoffering it, I'll take the two.
And he's like, all right if weboth go.
And so now I'm thinking thatwe're both going to do it or
whatever, which kind of makes mefeel bad about how it all

(01:18:12):
ultimately ended up going down.
But there's no way that youcould ever take the time to
absorb that.
As this was going down, hestops.
They said it's probably goingto be after song four.
So first four songs I'm barelyable to fully absorb it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:26):
I couldn't imagine you're sitting there for those
like 12, 15 minutes like, oh mygod just don't know what you can
see the crowd's roaring, by theway, like it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:35):
Like how many people were there?
Thousands, Like.
Like it's literally like you.
I never seen any.
I've done decently big stuff.
I knew it wasn't going to beanything at all like that.
Like I've done big stuff, Iknew it wasn't going to be well
you've done on tap in the sticks.

Speaker 1 (01:18:52):
Yeah, that was like a few of the people Right.

Speaker 2 (01:18:59):
And it a few of the people right, and it was like if
that place would have had thepeople all the way back to where
me and caroline got lost laterthat night, like way back.
That's what it looked like like.
As far as the eye could see,there was people.
So I was like I knew this islike a big fucking moment, you
know three minutes or whateverit's gonna end up being if you
get to, and so a lot of peopledon't know this.
But when he said, hey, we ranthis contest, some people fought

(01:19:22):
their way through the ranks,they came up here, blah, blah,
blah.
They came and rapped for usbefore and well, one of these
guys is gonna come out herebecause he absolutely killed it.
And he just like walks up andhe just like you see this all in
the video that caroline kind ofgot behind and he just like
walks up and he just like yousee this on the video that
caroline kind of got behind me.
He just walks up, hands me themicrophone and when I grab the

(01:19:44):
microphone, the we start walkingand like the beat kind of
starts as we're walking.
Oh my, god it gets into itpretty quickly, so like there's
not much of a build-up.
So you see me walking and thenall of a sudden we're rapping
and the only thing that wemessed up is this funny moment
like where we because we'retrying to learn in real time,
like when he's gonna say shit,when am I?

(01:20:06):
Sometimes we're both nopractice.
You know, we both stopped foranother person to say the word.
I forget what word it was orwhatever, but it was like we
both didn't say it, so we justpointed each other and then
other than that the whole thingwent really really good.
Uh, it went obviously super fast.
It's like three minutes and wewrapped the whole song, slayed

(01:20:28):
it.
The people afterwards were likeI think most of the time I feel
like when people bring peopleon stage, it goes like okay and
the people kind of are like getthe the real people yeah they're
kind of mean dude.
These people were like yeah, andthen he's like what's your name

(01:20:49):
?
And I'm like walking away.
Like I almost whiffed giving myown name.
We got, we got the legendjoining us.
I almost whiffed giving my ownname.
Uh, I tried to like walk awaybecause I was like I was always
taught as an opener.
Like as soon as you're donewith your job, like get out, get
out the way you know, get outof there.
And he's like what's your name?

(01:21:11):
Like I said it twice, what areyou doing?
And I was like my name istravis um, aka dirty prescott
kids, though I like extended theA, I said aka Dirty Prescott
Kids, I'm from Wisconsin.
And these people were like ah,and I was just feeling that and
I kind of put my hand up and Iwalked away and we were just

(01:21:31):
riding on this wave right.
And the second we got this islike the funniest, like ending
to it, because obviously a bunchof amazing stuff happened
afterwards.
But we walked out and thelady's like nice job, I got a
hour and a half commute back toBlaine, so you guys no longer
can be backstage.
I hope you guys had fun.

(01:21:52):
Oh my God, like we're done hereand we're like what Like we
want to watch?
Like the rest of the concert,like nope.
Like we're like what like wewant to watch?
Like the rest of the concert,like nope.
Like we're leaving, like youhave no, like, uh, you can't be
back here anymore.
So they like booed us out.
Oh my god right to the, to thegeneral population, where this
is, this is my home, that'swhere this is where I, this is

(01:22:15):
where I exist.
In my mind, though, I havebuilt myself up to a place where
I get to go and perform andshit, so we go out there.
I ain't worried about it, likehell, yeah, go out there.
That's where you can actuallysee the stage and watch these
songs.
Well, I didn't really factor inthat, you just were up there in
a very blatantly obvious outfit.
So the second we walked out andwent towards like the the

(01:22:37):
t-shirts.
People just started likerunning up and congratulating me
and telling me that it wassuper awesome and we're taking
pictures with people.
And people were like there wasa combination of like we knew
who you were.
There was a we have no idea whoyou are, but you just did so
good.
And then this was my favoriteone I know who you are, I follow

(01:23:00):
you, but I'm here to see limpbiscuit.
I had no idea.
They missed the facebook post,they missed the voting.

Speaker 3 (01:23:07):
They had no idea until the moment I walked out,
so they just shit them theirpants.
What is?
What is he doing here?

Speaker 2 (01:23:13):
and it was like so that was like cool to see, like
how many different people got toto see that and everything.
But the time that we spent withfred and uh, the rest of the
band and the, the, the battle inthe other, the other kid, uh,
the, the performance, likeeverything all together was by

(01:23:33):
far the coolest thing that I'vedone ever as far as like an
artist.
It was so unbelievably cool todo and it is somebody that I was
listening to in like fifthgrade.
It's pretty obvious to see thathe played a role in influencing
my music, so like getting to doit.
There's not very many likehigher up on the chain that that
could have happened with.

(01:23:54):
And it all happened because myhomie Tyler Dunning uh, I don't
listen to the radio and he hitme up and said bro, you seen
this contest and I was like whatContest?
So if he didn't tell me aboutit, I wouldn't have known about
it, I wouldn't have done it.
That's so cool so yeah, it wasthe shit.
And Fred was way more obviouslyhe's older now.
He was way more like calm andcollected and chill than than I

(01:24:15):
ever would have imagined for hislike abrasive of music as he
drops.
He was like, yeah man, what doyou got?
I like to make a true hip hopsong when I can you know?
anything where the band can takea break and I go up there and
just rap.
He's like so, like, turn it up,bitch.
It's just me out there, man.
So I wanted to think of a wayto bring somebody out, but I

(01:24:40):
didn't know how to do that rightnow.
I was like, literally ready to.
I was like and so last thingthat I'll say about it, because
I, I, I don't, um, I don't Idon't humble brag too often but
shortly after that he uh got myphone number and sent me a text
message and told me to stay intouch.
So, uh, I'm on a at least aphone number basis with the
homie now hell yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:24:57):
So I was like that's gotta be the coolest phone
number to have dude.

Speaker 2 (01:25:01):
Yeah, I'll be like pick and choose.
If I ever freaking hit it up, Ibetter have a really good
scenario.
But I will tell you, man,having it going the way that it
did and not like, even if I didall this cool shit, I knew you
with this, there's obviously thepossibility of whiffing
something.
You know what I mean oh if I do.
It's gonna be hard to shake thisone.

(01:25:21):
Like doesn't matter that youdid all this positive things
leading up to this, you'd bombthis.
So I just made it in my mind.
It was like I know this songbetter than my own songs.
I have songs that I've wrotethat I know less than that song.
And it was also cool becauselike a week later I started
going around to different bars,prescott, you know places that

(01:25:41):
I'm at my local haunts, andeverybody that was either there
or my friends that you know sawit happen.
They all know the song back toback now too.
So like it's kind of like itkind of became like our kind of
song now too, so a bunch ofpeople know it.
Now Caroline's making ice bathvideos, rapping the whole part,
and the contest is over.

(01:26:03):
If she would have known thatthe same time that I did, it
could have been me against her,yeah good point, good point.
You think people would havevoted for me if she was an
option I wouldn't have?
Nobody would have.

Speaker 3 (01:26:16):
Nobody would have Dude it was fucking insane,
especially Caroline's video, itreally helped.
She put it all together verynicely.

Speaker 1 (01:26:29):
But I had people from Pine City hitting me up just
for knowing you being like holyshit.

Speaker 3 (01:26:30):
Did you see this?
Yeah, me too.
It was unbelievable when youwent on stage.
Just like you said, it couldhave been a moment that haunted
you forever.
Instead, it's one you'll neverforget.

Speaker 2 (01:26:40):
It's baked in in a good way.
Of all the things I've everdone, one song, right One song,
and they killed their set.
By the way, never expectednothing less, but it's Limp
Bizkit.
One song out there does notsupersede a concert.
It never will.
The amount of times that I'veheard about that moment and like

(01:27:02):
people bring it up to me, itkind of teaches me a little bit
else.
You know it.
Maybe that's not 100 true,because all I got up there was
about two minutes and 40 secondsand you'd think I was up there
slaying with them the whole time, because people are like
brother, I seen you at the limpbiscuit and I was like I'm glad
that, because if you would havetook a piss, you would have
missed it, you know like I hadfriends that said do you think I

(01:27:26):
should come?
I started getting kind ofoffended by some people that
asked too many times do youthink we should go?
Do you think we should go?
Nobody that actually fuckinglike followed the story at all
asked me.
They're like dude, we got pittickets, can't wait to see you.
And I'm like just to let youknow, like there's no guarantee.

(01:27:46):
They're like yeah, there is,brother you know they were all
about it and some people arelike dude, just text me and tell
me should I come, and I'm like,first of all, the only thing
you get out the deal is a LimpBizkit concert with the
possibility of me joining it.
Right, it's a win-win.
Like what do you got to lose?

Speaker 3 (01:28:05):
Well, it's a Monday, dude.
So I love that you said thatit's a Monday, because Cody and
I were fucking trying everything.

Speaker 1 (01:28:11):
It's a Monday, we were going to borrow his dad's
RV.

Speaker 3 (01:28:14):
We all had to work late, so we were going to leave
super late, and then we wouldhave had to leave at like 5 in
the morning for everyone to makework.
And eventually we added all themath up.
We're like fuck.

Speaker 2 (01:28:24):
I don't know if we can make this happen.
This is not a winnable one.
Yeah, it was tough for even usto go facilitate Because, like,
oh, we got to go rage on aMonday and convince people to go
.

Speaker 3 (01:28:41):
It's like you don't have to rage, obviously, but
it's ah, you kind of, do you?
Do you go on stage with reddirt, you gotta?

Speaker 2 (01:28:44):
rage.
I didn't do it, not even a dropbrother like you're just high
on life.
Yeah, I could not imagine didn'tsmoke, didn't drink I I don't
usually before my shows anyways,but like a couple pre uh,
ronnie's, I would never put itpast myself.
They were like honest, likehawks man, they were like
they're giving us liquid deathwaters and they were like you

(01:29:06):
know, we were like a liability,so if you didn't pregame in the
parking lot, I was just in therefor hours, so I didn't have the
option to if I wanted to.
But one cool thing thathappened that I kind of forgot
to say but uh, while they'retrying to watch us and shit, 93x
doesn't know, not that thislike played anything into it,
but I tried to not acknowledgethat it like I make music

(01:29:28):
because I knew people would tryto take it away from me yeah
like, because I already sawpeople comment he's already a
rapper.
What does that matter?
Like it's not.
Like I have a guarantee to the,to the, to the win.
So anyways, uh, we werestanding close to the pit.
You see, all these people andpeople are funny Like you you
don't even have to recognizesomeone.

(01:29:49):
You just see someone standingbackstage and you like think
that there's somebody.
Well, I'm sitting back therewith the mullet and cam overalls
and and like 80 sunglasses andthere's people like just kind of
like pointing like who's thisperson standing there?
Well, a couple of my friendswere close by.
We were looking at him for thelongest time, trying to get
their attention.
You could see him smokingblondes and they're having a

(01:30:11):
blast, but they're not lookingat us.
Well, they look, they freak outbecause they're seeing their
friends and it's like minutestill this is going to go down.
So they're like oh my god.
Then the other people startreacting.
Then they're yelling at us likecome here, come here, come here
.
So I asked security.
I'm like can I just walk like15 feet and like slap hands with

(01:30:32):
them.
He's like I don't care.
So I walked up there slap handswith my friends.
Other people are yelling at mebecause, like they seen them
slap my hand so they want me tohigh five them.
People are handing me theirstuff, saying like will you try
to give this to so-and-so?
And I was like like I don'teven know who that is, you know.
And so like I'm just laughingbecause these people think like

(01:30:54):
I'm the fucking guy or something.
And uh, I come back andobviously it was a cool little
moment and the 93 X girl shoutout to 93 X, thank you for
putting on that scenario.
But in this moment it was funny.
She goes yeah, uh, actually Itake that back.
It was the guy with her.
He goes don't do that again.
Like stern, don't do that again.
I go well, did it.

(01:31:21):
So, like you know, there's thatlike it's over with.
And he's like no, like you, youdon't go out there and and and
interact with those people.
And I was like those people aremy friends and those people
asked me to sign their t-shirtor whatever.
And he kind of looked at me, Ithink, with the look of like
look, brother, you're just aboutto go up and do like a contest
with limp biscuit.
I don't think you need to besigning t-shirts.
Well, after I did it, aftereverything went down, they

(01:31:42):
shared biggest fan raps withFred Durst and then the freaking
floodgates opened up.
I seen so many comments ofshout out to the people that you
know showed up to that post.
They were like biggest fan.
You better put some respect onDirty.

Speaker 3 (01:31:56):
Prescott get his name and shit.

Speaker 2 (01:31:57):
And then all of a sudden, I think it dawned on
them like that, like at least Iwasn't unheard of up until that
moment.
I'm not saying that I amanything, but there's a reason
that those people had recognizedme.
We're in my home fucking stateof a state that I, lord, have
mentioned 7 million times in mysongs, like there's a good
chance that there was somepeople in that crowd that I knew
, not to mention I've beenmarketing it, the concert, for

(01:32:20):
like a week, so it was funnylike having those interactions
with them.
They like like they followed youto the porta potty, not in
there, but like close by to makesure you didn't like jump in
someone's trailer or something,but yeah it was.
It was one of the coolestmoments for me and I think that,
although I didn't get any likedirect, like offer anything from
it, it like it.

(01:32:40):
It gave me an opportunity toshow that I could do some shit
on a much bigger stage than I'veI've been given so far, and it
showed myself.

Speaker 3 (01:32:48):
It's good for your portfolio.

Speaker 2 (01:32:49):
You know, it's something like fuck.

Speaker 3 (01:32:52):
It looked like you were supposed to be there.
Thank, you.

Speaker 2 (01:32:56):
It felt like like if you don't get an opportunity to
go out and do this, you can'tshow people like like hey, I'm
sorry that I believe in myselfso much.
I'm not downplaying nothing butfor years I've had to explain
to people that are like, whydon't you play at this bar, this
bar, these places?
They love to silently insultyou by like you could come, try
to grow your tunes here byplaying here for free, or you

(01:33:18):
could come here and we'll giveyou the the price of a local dj
or whatever.
And as I keep getting bookedand like trying to grow as an
artist, I turn a lot of thosethings down because for one it's
not worth the energy to go dounless it's fun.
Like like the boys are throwinga party or something at froggies
, like let's do it.
But like to just play at aplace.

(01:33:39):
Like like you're the saturdaynight entertainment that they
want to throw you 300 bucks I'll.
I'll just wait until a biggeropportunity comes and so going
and doing something like thatwas cool because it was like I'm
not saying it's going to belike that every time.
I know it's not, but if I cango out and perform for even
three minutes to 3 000 people.
Do you understand slightly whyI'm not entertaining playing for

(01:34:01):
20?

Speaker 4 (01:34:02):
you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:34:03):
I'm not downplaying it, but it's like I have a
bigger vision for myself and themore stuff I accept that's tiny
, the the people perceive youthat way and I was like I need
well, and it's like what are you?

Speaker 4 (01:34:14):
what are you getting out of?
20 people in a fucking hole inthe wall in wisconsin?
You know of the.
How many of those 20 are reallyfucking ripping it Like you
want them to like are being like.
Not we all like your music.
Obviously, if I'm some old headsitting at a fucking bar and
like you're ripping fucking ragein, I'm like who the fuck is
this asshole and why is heruining my night.

Speaker 2 (01:34:40):
You know my night, you know, yeah it's.
I've had it happen where, likethey, you could tell they didn't
know what was about to happen,you know, and all of a sudden
it's just like interruptingtheir mind.
They're like one guy walked outof alabama show, the rest of
the people stuck around, but oneguy walked out right after rip
rage in his last.
So like this cfdt it's way moreabrasive right after rip.
I don't know why I used tostart with that song and he
walked out immediately.

(01:35:00):
I mean the song just startedand he's like goes right by us,
like there's no fence around thestage and where I'm at in
Alabama, so he walks, he couldhave high five me and he gives
me the like this is not it,brother, you know, and like
that's kind of the reaction youget in some of these places
which has it holds weight, likeyou should go do those.

(01:35:25):
I'm never saying I.
I do do plenty of them, but Ideal with it so much more than
you'd ever believe that it'sjust like it felt validating
slightly to go do something on abig, big scale and successfully
do it, because I'm like I toldyou, motherfuckers, I already
could do the slightly biggershit, but to go do it that big.
I'm like fucking sign me up forthis tour.
Man, put me on this.
Let me go play as the openerfor the opener.
I'm not saying I'm the guy yet Iwant to learn from the guy.

(01:35:46):
But I don't think that I haveto go cut my teeth anymore in
the the smoky bar for tips whenI I pass that point and let
other people do it.
If you think that's your avenueinto money, I made it where I'm
.
This isn't how I want to do it.
A lot of people know I don't doa lot of shows.
I don't do a lot of showsbecause for one, I'm a nice guy
and I kind of get walked on inthose moments because I got to

(01:36:06):
play my own advocate and ownersof bars and events love to just
get you to do stuff for next tonothing.
It takes a little piece of mysoul every time someone does
that to me because I feel like I.
I don't think it's the greatestthing in the world, but I
believe in it.
I wouldn't be pushing it at 34years old if I didn't so like.

Speaker 3 (01:36:27):
That moment for me was a sweet little kick like it
felt like a little jump start.
I mean, really we fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:36:30):
It was no on tapping the sticks, but it was freaking
dope and speaking of on tappingthe sticks, I do want say this
Y'all mentioned last time thatyou guys like Uncle Lazer.

Speaker 1 (01:36:40):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:36:40):
Okay, this is an idea and I want this to be public On
tap.
Sponsored event.
Right, get Uncle Lazer to comeup here anywhere.
Half Dirty Prescott Kids, halfUncle Lazer show.
Dirty comedy, dirty music.
Maybe other people can join.
Right, there's a podcastinvolved.
He does the pod.
Yes, we do the show.

(01:37:02):
We tear it up puke rinse reputewhatever has to happen but that
guy, I agree you got to get himup here and I've been thinking
like the closest he got recentlywas like southern wisconsin I
don't know if he got closer thanthat, but it's like five hours
for me and I was like the peoplethat will help me get him here,
where we can all do thistogether, is y'all and me and

(01:37:24):
we're in Tik TOK and the peoplethat see this cause.
I think that'd be the dirtiestthing to.
I'm not necessarily saying ithas to be in pine city.
But dirty fest, absolutely Dudewe got people that would join
the shit.
We need to get some peopleinvolved with these things Like
On Tap and the Sticks was sweetIf I could have had like two
other artists kind of pushingshit as much as I did at that

(01:37:47):
time to join me that whole fieldwould have been full.
That was one of the funnestnights of my life.
That's why, I said like thatwas no On Tap, because that
night I got treated like royaltywhen I was done at Limp Bizkit.
They kicked me out.

Speaker 3 (01:37:59):
When I was done, they said get out of here.

Speaker 2 (01:38:01):
When I was done at On Tap.
People were like yeah, brother,now we party.
And I drank and told them howmany.

Speaker 4 (01:38:07):
Ronnie D and Dr Peppers Were just getting thrown
at you.
By the time you got off stagethat night was just a movie.

Speaker 3 (01:38:13):
We made sure we served Ronnie D and Dr Peppers.

Speaker 4 (01:38:16):
I drank them all night specifically because you
were there, Dude.

Speaker 3 (01:38:19):
I know this is going to make me sound like a fucking
nerd loser, but I'm telling you,man, your moment with Fred
Durst when I got to come onstage and perform that was my
first time.
I've never been on a stage andlooked over a crowd and I
remember I took a video and as Iwent across people were like ah
, just fucking losing it, andthen when we performed it that

(01:38:42):
was fucking nuts dude.

Speaker 4 (01:38:42):
I think about it all the time.
I got absolutely roasted on mymind.
So you know the trailer whereyou and Sam did your thing.
And then there was the mainstage.
Yeah Well, after you moved backto the main stage, I got on
that trailer by myself, no one,and I was just rapping along
with you the whole time.
And I get down and my sister'slike what the fuck were you just
doing?
You look like an idiot up there.

Speaker 3 (01:39:03):
I was like I'm drunk, I'm having a good time.
I remember I had one buddy hehad never heard of you going
into it and then you performedand he comes out to me he's like
I just bought three hats thatwas the coolest thing about that
.

Speaker 2 (01:39:15):
I obviously got the impression when I was there that
like it's not like.
All these people came therelike, oh, we know who you are.
They're coming up there off oflike for one, this is about to
be a big ass party, absolutely.
And you guys were hyping thisup to your friends and your town
and using your platform to tellpeople, if nothing else, just
know this is going to be a rager, that's all.

(01:39:36):
A lot of people from our areaneed to know right, yeah, so I
got a lot of people that cameout to me that night, though
they were like didn't know you,they didn't listen to none of
your shit.
But that was sweet and nice tomeet you and I'm like, dude,
that it's cooler seeing thatthan uh, I guess not to discount
it.

Speaker 1 (01:39:52):
It's cool when people come out and they do know you,
but it's way cool when peopleare converted yeah, when you win
them, when you win them over,especially and that was kind of
our goal, honestly, because weknew locally that a lot of
people weren't fans of yours yet, but should be- and would thank
you yeah so we're like this isa great fit for this especially.
It's like it's not a full thing,it's not a commitment.

(01:40:13):
You're not going to thisconcert of this guy that you
might not have heard of, butit's going to be a massive party
and it's going to be a amazingtime it's way easier to talk me
into going to a party that I'mgoing to get, I mean, absolutely
blitzed at.

Speaker 4 (01:40:25):
Then go hear someone who I don't know, but if, if the
music's fucking sick too, itmakes the night that much cooler
yeah, and it does, and that guyobviously did.

Speaker 2 (01:40:35):
He pulled no punches on the the equipment you know.
So it was like, yeah, itpounded, it was fine it pounded.

Speaker 1 (01:40:41):
People still talk about that first one to this day
because we well it got.
I don't know if you know this.
It got shut down at like fivein the morning because there was
noise complaints from like fouror five miles away oh, my god,
we heard.

Speaker 4 (01:40:52):
I didn't have buddies .
I remember specifically gettingtold that they could hear the
music as clear as day atmcdonald's off, like across the
freeway, like miles away two,two miles, three miles, yeah
like clear, like so clear thatthey could rap along with it if
they wanted to yeah, I, I feellike that you guys got something
going with that.

Speaker 2 (01:41:11):
It's cool.
I still love the idea of.
I love the idea of throwingyour own parties, because if
you're gonna have like like backto like the bar show thing, I
would do a show at that same barif it's my event, because I
know how I would do this.
It's like these old people thathave this idea of like, well,
we this, how we used to do it,we just give a little couple
dollars to the guy that playedguitar and sing cover songs and

(01:41:34):
that's enough entertainment forthe people.
You know, well, that's not howI'm trying to do this.
I'm trying to get a lot ofpeople to come for this, not
just we're accidentally here,right.
So you got to market it for awhile.
You got to kind of you knowthat, that cred you have with
people that go, hey, I don'tknow, sam's never let me down
when he says it's going to be aparty.
Yeah, you got to throw thatcredit out there and say this is

(01:41:56):
the one you don't want to missand people believe you and they
show up.
Same shit as like the limpbiscuit thing.
When I had my only big concertin prescott.
The owner did not want to giveme any like credible night, so
he gave me a sunday night ohit's a terrible night for uh
just getting an accidental crowdand a terrible night to

(01:42:17):
convince my mostly blue collarfriends to yeah yeah come,
people fucking showed up, uh,fucking from other towns.
People showed up in a limo uh,two dudes from red wing I'm
still friends with today.
They literally, like people,showed up in troves whether they
took off work or they toughedit out, and we raged so hard
there on the night that youcould tell was like they gave me

(01:42:39):
on purpose to like set you upfor failure and these people
came out because they knew itwas gonna be a party.
We were partying like it wasfourth of july on a sunday night
and I just I'll never forgetthat because it just proves that
like it's like, if you build it, they will come, yes, and you
can dude.
We can make concerts bigger.
You might not be able to getthose Limp Bizkit numbers, but

(01:43:00):
if we could do that same fieldparty.
But now that we know what we'redoing, I bring a couple other
artists, or maybe we spend somemoney to get somebody bigger
than me and I'm the opener, orbetter, yet the party afterwards
, or something like that, whenthings get scummy.
Those are the things that youcan transcend things.
You, you get a country artistor something.

(01:43:21):
Someone that's got a littlebroader mine slightly niches up,
I'm not gonna I don't lie tomyself on that.
I get that like it's hard toappease to the guy that's, you
know, true, traditional countryand he's up here listening to
wisconsin.
Yep, he likes the topics, buthe's like what the fuck?

Speaker 3 (01:43:39):
Well, hey, man, I mean, we're talking a spring
event, so we can get somethinggoing here.

Speaker 2 (01:43:45):
I hope that y'all continue what you're doing and
keep thriving.
It was weird to see y'all takea break.
I know that you got plenty ofthings going on, but I was
checking on you.

Speaker 4 (01:43:54):
Here's the things going on, there's the things.

Speaker 2 (01:43:57):
I was checking on you .
I was checking on you.
I was I was checking out, uh, Iwould check on tiktok youtube
and I was like holy shit, it'sbeen like two months since then
three months, you know, I juststarted going.
I started sending you guysmessages like what, what's going
on?
I was hoping it wasn't likeover or anything like fallout.
Yeah, I, just I.
I have a lot of faith in y'all.

(01:44:18):
The podcast is energetic, it'scool, it's it.
It looks good.
A lot of people don't nail thevideo and podcast style.
You guys got a lot of thingsgoing on the skits, the events
and obviously that's why I keepcoming back and joining y'all,
because I like you, but y'allhave helped me out a tremendous
amount too.
Man, I see them koozies everysingle episode I never, I never

(01:44:38):
stop seeing the repping and theplugs and everybody that's
shouting me out right up there.
People randomly run into mefrom pine city and they tell me
that they know about me becauseof y'all.
Uh, that shit don't gounnoticed.
So, like I, if you plan anevent, I want to be in it.
I want to be in it and I wantto help.
I can help you get a hold ofother people that we need

(01:45:02):
absolutely and that's what weneed everybody.
That was what that nashvillething was.
It was like what you got, Idon't got, what I got like
people helped each other withyour little like where you seem
to, where you drop the ball,I'll pick up the slack man,
let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:45:19):
Yeah, absolutely, hell.
Yeah, dude.
Well, you're welcome on hereanytime you want to come.
I mean, with that being said,thank you for coming, dude.
We appreciate the hell out ofit.
I appreciate these are myfavorite episodes.
What comes, dude?

Speaker 2 (01:45:31):
we I know we all get talking and we talk.
We probably could do like a 14hour, like a marathon, like
where we just talk forever, butit's just because the
conversation is too good andy'all are easy to talk to we
probably could have filmed halfthe shit we were talking before
this, even fired up.

Speaker 3 (01:45:44):
Yeah, dude, that's the tough part, you know.
You got to keep off certaintopics, so you don't fuck.

Speaker 4 (01:45:49):
Yeah, there's a, there's a certain, there's a
certain threshold of when youneed to go in and turn the
cameras on, because it's like ifwe talk about that for too long
, we're just gonna burnourselves.

Speaker 2 (01:45:56):
Yeah, yeah and you ask me like uh, well, what, what
you've been doing you know, andthen you start telling it.
It's like that's usuallypodcast type material.

Speaker 3 (01:46:05):
You know what you've been doing well.
You want me to tell you twiceyeah, for anybody that that
doesn't already follow travisaka dirty prescott kids go find
them on tiktok youtube.
All of them, baby dirtyprescott instagram, facebook,
tiktok snack.

Speaker 1 (01:46:21):
Maybe we'll say preferably the other ones since
just in case tiktok goes youknow, go to youtube, subscribe
to his youtube.

Speaker 2 (01:46:27):
Let's bump that thing up and absolutely this year for
me out of the.
If I have any closing remarkson it, I just want to say that,
uh, I just recently hit a pointkind of in my career here where
I don't know why, but in thebeginning it was very important
to prove how far I could make itby myself with the little
resources that I had.

(01:46:47):
I understand now more than everthe power of collaboration and
that it takes way more people tolaunch some shit, which is good
for me.
It's good for the people thatlisten to my music.
It's good for the people thathave never been contacted by me,
that are about to in the nearfuture.
I'm working on a lot ofcollaboration shit right now and
I'm open to many more ideasthan I was before, so you can

(01:47:09):
see a lot more music and a lotmore collaborations with artists
coming out, artists that youhave heard of and haven't.
If someone's doing dope shit,I'm in on it so we can have a
bunch more shit rolling.
So this year is where you'regonna start seeing those dpk
features or other people on minethat yes but we are.
Our resources were so limitedbefore and I was like just

(01:47:31):
picking and choosing when Iworked with someone and I
realized now we can just bedropping bangers, and I didn't
even know who these people wereuntil I went out and started
meeting them.

Speaker 4 (01:47:41):
If I'm not mistaken, at one point on this podcast you
did say that Yellow Wolf isyour dream collaboration.

Speaker 2 (01:47:48):
Yeah, I still stand by that.

Speaker 4 (01:47:49):
He's an avid listener of the podcast Yellow.
He listens to every episodeSwamp for Life.

Speaker 3 (01:47:54):
And Kanye.

Speaker 2 (01:47:55):
And Kanye, I did that one.
Thanks for listening to On Topof the Boys.
Be sure to follow what.

Speaker 3 (01:48:06):
I was going to see if Travis would take us out with
the cheers.
To take it back to our firstepisode.
To take it back to the firstepisode, I was going to see if
you had another cheers that youcould take us out on, and if you
don't, Mitch has got about 100locked up for him.

Speaker 2 (01:48:22):
Well, I mean, I always nailed the one that I
needed to, and that's all thatneeded to be done.
And since that one went so good, I just don't feel like I need
to I agree you know what?
I'm saying no you're right,yeah you put me on the spot.
I hit you with my friends oneyou got like a million on the
damn tiktok it was like slightlycancelable, like, like the way
that it was said, you know, andI was like well, if that one's

(01:48:43):
cancelable.

Speaker 4 (01:48:43):
I got one way fucking dirty.

Speaker 2 (01:48:45):
It definitely wasn't cancelable, but it was it's a
weird one that that kid said allright, mitch take us out.

Speaker 4 (01:48:50):
All right, here's the pillows, all dressed in lace, a
cowboy and a cowgirl laid faceto face, a belly full of whiskey
and a mouth full of tongue.
A pussy full of Peter, but I'mtoo drunk to come.

Speaker 2 (01:49:02):
Cheers Cam, cheers young legend.

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