The DISTURBING Truth About Ruby Franke That Hulu EXPOSED!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So I've been going down the rabbit hole of family
channels lately and I found themotherfucking Mac Daddy.
Dude, I swear to God, this RubyFrank.
She's insane.
Hulu just dropped a documentaryon her and I'd kind of heard a
little bit about it leading upto it.
When she got arrested, therewas a lot of videos going around
and she was getting some flackearlier.

(00:21):
But, dude, this documentary iscrazy.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
So basically— Is this the gal that was like abusing
her kids and forcing them to beon camera?

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Yeah, but it gets so extreme you wouldn't even
believe what it gets to.
So this lady, she's a Mormon,it's a Mormon family, it's
called Eight Passengers.
It's Ruby Frank, her husband,kevin, and then six kids, and
they all kind of have a varietyof ages where, like the oldest
one, when they started thevideos was like eight, and then

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the youngest one was just liketheir first video they ever
posted was a gender reveal wherethey like cut the cake and and
whatever, and it started out asreally wholesome.
They were building a hugefollowing.
They she was known as likeAmerica's mom and and it was.
It was a huge deal for her.
And so what?
When it started to turn iseveryone?

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So everyone thought like, oh,this lady, she's got it made,
she's the best mom out there.
And then she started posting alittle more intimate videos.
She started to realize that hereldest son he played football,
he was really popular, he wasattractive, as they say in the
documentary.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Not me because I'm not gay.
At eight he was like 12 at thispoint, Probably one of them.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
So she figured whenever he is on the thumbnail
they get the most of you.
She was completely exploitinghim and so in these videos she
was completely exploiting himand and so, like in these videos
, she would like pan it to him.
He wouldn't respond, she'd getall pissed.
And a big part of thisdocumentary is the family.
The entire family came forwardand they gave all this

(01:57):
unreleased footage of her like,of her cuts yeah where she would
be like dude she'd be taking avideo with her son like selfie
style and he wouldn't give herthe answer.
She would be like dude she'd betaking a video with her son
like selfie style and hewouldn't give her the answer she
wanted.
And she would turn the cameradown and just be like what the
fuck?
I help you with everything andyou give me nothing.
Oh my God she would just freakout on him.
So it started out like it was.
It was fucked up, but it was alot more innocent than where it

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got to.
She was just exploiting herkids for content.
She was forcing them to makethese videos.
Their whole life revolvedaround YouTube.
She's putting food on the tablegoddammit.
And that's one of their bigthings Is there a dad in this?
So the dad is involved in thevideos, but at first he was
really out of it and he didn'tlike having the camera in his

(02:43):
face when he got home from work.
He was a stay-at-home dad.
But then in the documentary hesays we got that first paycheck.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
It changed everything I was going to say.
How quickly did they monetizetheir YouTube channel?

Speaker 1 (02:51):
So they had one video blow up and it got them an $85
check and that was what theyneeded.
He was all in, the whole familywas all in.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
They would pay the kids ten dollars per video that
they helped on ten dollars I sawin the trailer because I didn't
see the actual documentary, butI saw it um on, like just quick
flipping through, and the clipthat plays automatically is her
and the son I'm assuming it'sthe oldest and she says like,
okay, pretend at least thatyou're happy.

(03:22):
I don't know if I can, you haveto.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
Yeah, it was like that was the clip and I was like
whoa Dude, if you go to anykind of vacation, that's what
any fucking family does whenthey're trying to get their kids
to take pictures that's a goodpoint In front of the fucking
Mount Rushmore or whatever.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
Yeah, but this is different.
This is like put on a show, puton a show, you know, like this
is, put a quarter in, like dothe trick.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
There's a parallel, I feel like the kids.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
Wouldn't they be more intrigued to do these things if
they were getting a decent cutof that check, though, instead
of ten dollars, you know?

Speaker 3 (03:53):
I don't even know.
Yeah, but if they bang out 50videos a day, I feel like the
kids are more innocent than that.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
I feel like they're more like they just hate it.
Like, imagine if everything youhad to do, or everything you
did as a kid, if it wasn't goodenough on camera for her, she
would just make you redo it youyou literally your whole life is
being on a film set there's nofan like you're supposed to be
like at home as a family familytime, but then that's converted
into.
You were doing this task welland that's the oldest daughter

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she was.
She's the whole family's in thedocumentary dude.
They just let the mom they gaveit out everything, all the
information, and she said likethey changed all of the lights
to what in the house like, likewhat the fuck's it called dude
the high, the bright lights broincandescent like you see them
in school.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
You know leds, whatever, like a nice okay,
light versus like specificallyto film youtube 100.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
They used to have like the warm yellow lights they
live on a set and that's whatshe said.
It feels like you're living ona set.
So let me keep going, dude,because you, it gets fucking
crazy.
So this lady like when?
So when she first got her a lotof hate, she posted a video.
She posted it on her channelwhere her son she's talking
about how, like when she takesthings away from her kids, she

(05:07):
doesn't give it right away, evenif they change their behavior,
because they need to earn it.
And she's like can you name onetime where I've given you
anything before six months?
And he's like well, she justgave me my room after seven
months and she was like she wasmaking him sleep in the basement
on this beanbag because hisbehavior was so bad.
He lost his room, which, in aMormon family dude, he just like

(05:29):
kissed a girl and it was theend of the world, whoa and so
you know that's the first timeshe took a lot of heat.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
How old was this?

Speaker 1 (05:36):
kid At this point he's about 14, 15.
And so this kid, his name'sChad, he, uh, he starts really
acting out at school, getsexpelled from school.
He just he hate.
His whole life was being toldwhat to do, so he just learned
to resent it.
And so they sent him to, likeyou know, those wilderness camps
where they talk about all thecrazy shit that happened there.

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And then they got him investedin all this therapy and they
introduced him to this ladynamed jody Hildebrandt, who
really comes into the storylater, and and she starts going
through all these therapysessions with him and it got to
a point where, like he wasn't,he didn't want to change, and
his mom said if you don't change, jody and I are gonna have to

(06:18):
send you to military camp and hewas only.
He was only like 15, so thatwould have been three solid
years there.
So then he started to changehis behavior.
Things started to get a littlebetter once this Jody
Hildebrandt got involved, butthen all of a sudden it took a
whole turn for the worse.
So the husband, kevin, he hadkind of had suspicions, like it

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was getting really weird withthis Jody lady, and she had
basically told everybody thatshe could feel God and that and
that she was sent from God tochange everybody's lives.
And this ruby was completelybought in on it.
And so she.
She at one point was claimingthat she was seeing demons in
her bed.
She's like a Mormon psychic,yeah, basically and she's gonna

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see the mormons during covid.
They were getting ready forlike the second coming.
Yeah, it was a huge thing intheir community and she was
taking like that role of likeI'm the speaker.
God sent me here to get usthrough the second coming and
they fully bought in and sheclaimed like I, I'm at night
when I I wake up to thesespirits around me and hoods and

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like all this crazy shit.
And these guys are so religiousthat they went to her house,
picked her up, moved her intotheir house.
So this Jodi Hildebrandt thathas these crazy techniques for
therapy and she's just a knownman-hater.
She's known for ruiningfamilies, she doesn't have any
kids and she's been in a divorcebut she's the expert of

(07:43):
marriage Like it's just weirdshit.
But they have this familyhooked and so they move her in.
And that's when shit really gotweird, because she started
having like these demonicepisodes.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
Like night terrors, dude, she would like they showed
a video Like are they realdemonic episodes, though, or is?

Speaker 2 (08:00):
she In retrospect.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
These are like psychosis-induced.
Or is she knowing that what sheis spewing is bullshit and it's
just an angle?
Or is she believing in herselfshe's convinced herself of?

Speaker 1 (08:12):
this.
She's basically a cult leaderand they don't ever have full
proof of her being like I madeall of this up but they show
enough context where you're likethis bitch had them in her
fingers and she was using them.
But, dude, I got.
I got to get to this pointbecause this is where it really
takes a turn.
So keep in mind these, the, thetwo parents, ruby and kevin.

(08:36):
They got together when theywere straight out of high school
.
They went through the wholecourting, the mormon bullshit,
so they've been together forever, happy family, six kids.
Well, there's jody moves andshe's having these episodes and
they showed videos where she'slike laying on the floor, being
like she's never coming back.
Oh, my god I have her, and thenthe mom would be like god,

(08:57):
please say, like it was justlike one of those crazy moments
and they're filming this foryoutube.
Filming it, dude and so they ohmy god, keep in mind.
The family thinks this is 100%real, they believe this woman,
and so this woman's starting.
She's a big known man-hater andshe likes to consolidate the
wife and then get them to hatetheir husband, and this is

(09:20):
something she's done for a whileBe divorced like me, and so she
moves in and all these episodesare going on.
So Ruby tells her husband thatshe needs to start staying in
Jodi's room so that the demonsdon't come when she's sleeping
and she just needs to be withher.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
I'll scare away the demons.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
I understand well the oldest daughter.
She's in college.
At the time this Jodi had tookher room and she came home for
Christmas and she goes into theroom.
And she came home for Christmasand she goes into the room and
she found a bunch of sex toys ornot sex toys.
She found a bunch of massageoils and other things that led
her to believe that the mom andthe fucking therapist were

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hooking up in her room and thenshortly after, she.
So one thing that's really bigin the mormon society that I
didn't understand is divorce islike the worst thing you can do
yeah, it's like killing someoneso it's like breaking a contract
that god made you literally,and so they have separations
where you, the husband or thewife, just has to leave the

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family and you cannot havecontact until the other one
decides that it's time to bringit back divorce, but without
sign it's like.
It's like the polygamy and youdon't know if it's going to be
six months a year or 10 years.
It's just separate, it's anunsaid separation.
And so she kicks the husbandout, her oldest son that's now
17, he, he's very religious andhe went to jody, who's his

(10:46):
therapist, that he spoke toevery week for years.
Now she lives in their houseand she told he told her that,
like I, I've been watchingpornography and I made out with
the girl and he felt reallyguilty about it and she was like
I think you should tell yourmom.
Well, he, he tells the mom, shefreaks the fuck out, decides he
needs to leave, kicks him outof the house.

(11:07):
Because, his bad spirits werethe reason why Jodi was having
these episodes.
That's what she chalked it up to, and so she has now kicked out
her husband, her eldest son, andthen she reached out to the
eldest daughter and said youobviously do not want to be a
part of this family anymore.
You're done.
So she she kicked out the threethat were starting to realize

(11:30):
like this is getting weird.
And now she just had four youngkids with her and Jody, and so
the neighbors are starting tonotice like Jody and Ruby would
be gone for extended periods oftime.
It was super, super weird,because you'd walk by the house,
you'd see these little faces ofthese little kids peering out
the window, but then you'd knockon the door.

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No one would ever answer.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
They just leave the kids alone, just leave them
completely alone.
What?

Speaker 1 (11:55):
the fuck dude.
The neighbors actually reachedout to the eldest daughter and
she called the police for awelfare check.
Well, no one answered the door,and when they asked her if
she'd physically seen any damagedone to them, she said no
because she hadn't.
But then they couldn't doanything and so they couldn't
get in the door.
But then ruby, like she'sstarted to realize, like oh,

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they're catching on to me.
So then she moves the two olderdaughters they start living
with a friend and takes the twoyoungest over to jody's house,
where she's now convinced thather kids are demons sent from
the devil her own kids and shehas all of this written in a

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notebook of like the things theythat she has done to them, how
she's gonna break the devil outof them and she's.
She thinks that like sheessentially has to kill her own
children to save to save our ourworld.
And so they go to jody's houseand jody has like this crazy

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bunker house where the bottomtwo floors are completely
concrete.
She's got a whole safe room andso they started living there.
Well, one day the neighbor gets.
He's just like sitting on theporch or something and in this
little malnourished he's gotduct tape all over his wrists,
he's got bruises on his neck,rope burns.

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He runs up to the front door ofhis house and he's like I, I
need to ask a favor, will youplease bring me to the, the
police station.
And he's like what's wrong?
He's like it's personalproblems.
So he's like all right, I'llcall the police.
The police come and pick him upand then they immediately go to
the house.
They go, they jody answers.
She's like I'm on the phonewith my lawyer.

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They just grab the bitch rightout the house, put, put her in
cuffs, search the house all over.
They find in the basement.
This door that leads into asafe room Can't get into it.
She's like I don't know thepassword.
Oh my God, they go upstairs theyfind the youngest daughter
who's also malnourished.
Rope burns everything.
Jesus Christ, she's completelymute.

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She won't even talk.
They finally get her to comedownstairs with them.
They get into the safe room.
They're trying to crack it.
They can't get it.
All of a sudden, one of thesergeants just goes.
I'm just going to try 1, 2, 3,4, 5.
Fucking puts it in no fuckingway.
Opens right up you go in theback room, there is bloody gauze
from the children.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
There is bloody gauze from the children.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
There's handcuffs, there's ropes.
She made a mix of honey andwhat's it?
Kanye peppers where?
She mixed it up and she wouldrub it on their wounds, kanye,
she would rub it on their woundsand it was just crazy.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
And so they finally arrested her, her.
They arrested her on the spot.
They're trying all over to findthe mom.
The mom just shows up at thehouse and she's like what the
fuck are you doing here?
Then they arrest her and theyfound the other kids.
The other kids were fine but,like dude, she's facing 30 years
of prison dude, that's.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
that's not enough.
Yeah, what state is this?

Speaker 1 (15:05):
in.
This is in Utah, utah.
This is Mormon country.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
I was going to say Utah they got death penalty
there dude, I don't think sohave you seen that polygamy show
?

Speaker 4 (15:14):
It kind of reminds me of that.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
No, it's like living with polygamy or something.
Is this a Mormon thing?
Yeah Well.

Speaker 4 (15:23):
I think Mormon yeah, you can have more than one wife,
I think, as a Mormon.
But that's kind of what thispolygamy show is about is like
these girls that are born, youknow, like this the preacher
Look it up, the preacher will be40 years old and the girl will
be born and when she's 10, assoon as she turns 16, she's
going to marry that guy orwhatever, and at the end of it

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he has like 42 wives and all hedoes is bang them and then get
them pregnant and then just kindof catch the next one.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
Mormons are not polygamous Okay, well, that's
more of a cult thing.

Speaker 4 (15:57):
Yeah, it's more of a cult, but it was in Utah.
It kind of reminds me of thesame sort of situation because
they would like have separatehousing.
Like when he was done with theone wife, he would put him in
like this trailer park that hewould own and then she would
live there.
But if she divorced him, it waslike the same deal sam was
talking about they get exiled.
Yeah, they get exiled.
So it's just this group of like60 women that like didn't know

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any better because it was howthey were raised.
And then, once they grew up,they realized it, but then they
were too scared to leave, likethey didn't, because they had
nothing.
You know, he funded he boughtthem groceries, had their
housing, even though it wassuper shitty and none of it was
good.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
They didn't know any better, dude that's kind of
crazy should I start a familyyoutube channel?

Speaker 1 (16:38):
dude, that's what got me thinking, because I've been
trying to get you I know you dobring that up all the time, no
matter what it makes me it makesme think of the costco guys.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Have you seen, like uh, the outtakes of some of the
costco guys interviews?
Yeah, it is so cringy dude.
It is like, um, I saw this.
Uh, there's a comedian jay kindof funny.
Are you familiar with him?
No, I'm not um, I'm trying tothink.
Um, I I always get him and anda couple of other comedians
confused, but it's like hisvideos were huge on TikTok,
where he'd go up and moan inpeople's ears, or the Chupapi

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moan in you.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
Yeah, sure that guy yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
I think that's him.
So they had a video of him withthem and he's just sitting
there smiling while they'retalking behind him Big Justice
and what's the other one, aj,and big jj and big justice and,
um, it showed the whole video,no cuts, and it was like no, no,
no, no, you say it like this.
And then I'll say this and thenlike did it, did it.
And then the whole time jay'sjust sitting there smiling, like

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really awkward, and they'rejust like bickering.
No, no, no, you say it likethis.
And then I'll say it like thisand they're like okay, here
we're today with the bigchocolate chunk, and then Five
big booms.
No, no, no, no, no, I'll saythat you say this.
It just is so cringy and soawkward that I'm like oh, this
is like a family.
This is a family YouTube channel.

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Fuck, do they have a YouTubechannel?
They got to have.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
Oh yeah, I, they're fully mocked.
Have you seen that Instagram Ithink it was Instagram Live or
TikTok Live where it was thefive big booms one where he was
like oh Mitchell, I'm sorry yoursister died.
That deserves five big booms,boom boom.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Yeah, it's a big sound bite.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
now I hear the sound on a lot of videos.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Sorry to hear your sister passed away.
Here's five big booms.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Oh my God, yeah, dude , to hear your sister passed
away, here's five big booms.
Oh my god, yeah, dude.
The family channel lore is justfucking nuts, because it's like
we know how hard it is to filmthings, and so when you have
this idea of how you want avideo to go and you're dealing
with little kids who don't evenknow what's going on, and then
also when you turn your wholeincome into this family channel,
you need to make a video everyday now these are like your

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employees why is it so popular?

Speaker 4 (18:47):
like it wouldn't be a thing if it wasn't so you've
seen how many subscribers, howmany viewers.
Now that's what I'm saying.
Oh, in the ad sense is insanefor that family friendly content
yeah, like, is it like acorporate push thing, like it's
just fun, I just think it's themost rapid way you can grow a
channel because, since it's sofamily friendly, everyone wants
to advertise on when young girlslike.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
That's one thing they talked about in in this
documentary because chad, whenhe was like 12, 13 he was.
He was the most popular on thechannel because most of the
viewers are 12 to 15 year oldgirls who just like see this
perfect family and that's likethey want to have a family one
day.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
So this is their type of content dude, my
five-year-old nephew was at myhouse a couple months ago and we
were on youtube and he was likeoh, I gotta show you this, this
channel, and it's uh, I wish Iremembered the name of it.
It is just this cringy familychannel.
It's this guy and son, andthey'll just like buy these toys

(19:47):
yeah, open them yeah, and thenthey will play with them yeah
and it is so over the top, like,like whoa, look at this
dinosaur.
Oh, I'm gonna get you.
You know, and it's like this ishe loves this.
He will sink into this show andhe's locked in.
You can't talk to him.
And it's like this is he lovesthis, he will sink into this
show and he's locked in.
You can't talk to him and it'sjust total brain rot I'm not

(20:09):
getting anything out of it.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
It's so old, like all the colors are like overly
saturated.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Yes, it's like purposely made to brain rot kids
.
It's insane and I remember likethere's no way this is a
popular youtube channel.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
I look and it had like eight million subscribers I
, I feel like I, whenever Ithink of things like that, like
okay, who the fuck is what?

Speaker 2 (20:28):
I forget that that's a demographic fucking
five-year-olds or like you knowlike I, and he knows exactly how
to get on that, on that searchand go to it.
My sister was saying like it'sa real problem.
She walked in in while we werewatching.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
She's like no, no, we're not watching this.
We're not watching this.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
She has a list of channels that she knows like.
No, this is stupid.
There's nothing to gain from it.
It's insane and there's so manyout there my kid will be
watching.
Have you guys heard of Danny Go?
He makes kids songs that theydance along to, right, but all
the suggested whenever we lookup these I don't even know like

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these 3D models made in likeBlender of these, like cars
going through like a puddle ofpaint and then they'll go along
this track and it's all animated, but it's really shitty.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
It's like.
It's like it'll have presentday, baby Einstein.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Yeah, but it'll have millions of views but, like the
audio tracks that they'll put in, it will be like popular meme
audio, yes, and one time we werejust we were watching one and
some of these things.
Like when they go through thisthing, it'll be like what the
hell?
Like the audio track that'splaying is like these meme
sounds.
It's like what the Dude it'sbrain rot, what is going on.

Speaker 4 (21:41):
If you've like you know I'm sure you guys have all
seen it on Instagram Reels orTikTok There'll be like a Rogan
clip, you know.
It'll be him saying somethingfor a minute long and it'll be
the top half of the screen.
In the bottom half will be likethe gta car yeah, like going
down like a dragon or subwaysurfer, yeah, yeah and it'll
like flip and then it'll likereset and the car will go down
and again.

(22:02):
And it's crazy to think thatobviously kids aren't watching
rogan clips.
But at today's world evenadults can't hold their
concentration for a minute towatch a rogan clip that they
have to watch a gta5.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
Is that the point of that?
That's the point.

Speaker 4 (22:18):
So that way you watch the gta car and you listen to
rogan because your brain is soused to getting so much dopamine
.
This is why I like it has to bewatching.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
It's all stimulation.

Speaker 4 (22:30):
Hate TikTok because TikTok knows you better than you
know you.
The algorithm is so good on itthat it knows you need so much
dopamine where it can only put aone-minute video in there, and
it has to put a GTA clip of youdriving a motorcycle down.
Or Subway Surfer or for you toeven stay locked in for that

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minute to finish.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
The video turns me off of, like tiktok specifically
.
It's like I feel like I meaneven all social platforms now,
but I feel like whenever I'm onit, I just know they're tracking
every single bit, like down tothe fucking nanosecond of how
I'm watching this video.
They know you better than youknow you, but it's like I feel
like I'm being watched and justlike every action I do, even
just scrolling, yeah but justscrolling, but I feel like it's

(23:13):
going to dictate what I see next.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
Even if you don't like the video, it knows your
watch time on it.
If you've watched half of it,it knows to not feed you
something like that again.
It's so smart so specific.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
That feeling of I know it's doing that and I don't
like that.
I feel pressured.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
It gives me anxiety Watching those videos where I'll
purposely and it's.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
I don't like that, it's just.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
I feel pressured.
Yeah, it gives me anxiety.
Yeah, it does.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
Watching those videos I'll purposely scroll by,
whereas, like five years ago, Inever had that thought no.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
There is a study that just came out I think TikTok
has a lot to do with this, butthe human, the average human
attention span, just dippedlower than a goldfish's
attention span.
Fuck.
So, like In all these studies,they say that a goldfish has a
nine-second attention spanbefore it'll just do its own
thing.
The human attention span,officially, has dropped to 8.25.

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It is officially below agoldfish.

Speaker 4 (24:04):
I single-handedly blame TikTok.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
It's just pure stimulation all the time?

Speaker 3 (24:10):
How often are those people taking that survey or
whatever?
That's just the people thathave been exposed to that or
constantly put themselves infront of these social platforms.
You have to think.

Speaker 4 (24:23):
Yeah, I agree, I think people who haven't had
social media, like an Amishperson, they have longer than a
nine-second attention span, oreven just like.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Yeah, also I never got pulled in this.
Yeah, like an Amish person.
They have longer than anine-second attention span, or
even just like.
Yeah, also I never got pulledin this.
Yeah, where is this coming from?
I get real hesitant about thesestudies.

Speaker 4 (24:39):
Is it coming from TikTok?
That's another thing I like toask.
When anyone spits a fact to meyou know, did you hear this?
I always say where did you hearthat?

Speaker 3 (24:47):
Did you survey?

Speaker 4 (24:48):
100 people.
And almost 10 out of 10 times.
They know that they saw it onTikTok and they're too
embarrassed to say TikTok, Idon't remember.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
I read an article.

Speaker 4 (24:58):
You don't read.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
I recently thought a lot about this who are they
polling kind of situation when Iwent on a cruise in January and
my family got put up againstanother family in this family
feud entertainment night on thecruise ship.
So there's like like a hundredpeople watching in this little
like a theater room and, uh, wego up against this other team.
But the people that they pulledwere obviously members of the

(25:23):
crew who are all from all overthe world, Right?
So there was a lot of likemiscommunication and cultural
differences that showed up.
It was like name things thatyou would drink for breakfast,
and someone said milk orchocolate milk.
I think they specifically saidchocolate milk and that was
wrong.
But then when they revealed theanswers on the board, one of

(25:44):
them was chocolate drink.
It's like, okay, well, is itnot chocolate milk?
Or are you talking proteinshake?
Because someone else also saidprotein shake and that was wrong
.
So I was like, what exactly isa chocolate drink then?
I don't, you know.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
So it's like weird cultural differences.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
I was like okay, obviously this poll is not from
people that would be answeringthis, you know.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
Dude, have you ever seen?
Always Sunny.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
Yeah, dude, literally that thought was in my head the
show.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
I do literally.
That thought was in my head.
There's an episode where theythe crew goes on family feud and
charlie happened to getsurveyed for for the show before
they got on and he didn't evenunderstand what it was for, and
so they would get all the otheranswers right and there'd be one
left and charlie would just saysomething dumb as fuck.
It'd be like dragon animalsthat bark dragon's breath and
it'd be the last they'd all lookat'd be like animals that bark
dragon's breath, They'd all lookat him and be like what the

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fuck kind of answer is that?
And then he'd be like dragon'sbreath, and he'd just click one
on it.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Yeah, that's how I felt on this Family Feud thing
when we were on this cruise.
Dude, I'd be pissed.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
I was like what is going on?

Speaker 2 (26:49):
It's like what is going on Good foods for
breakfast and they get a Britishperson Baked beans, baked beans
on toast it said like name areally large country, and my
sister said Australia.
And they're like okay, wellthen what it's a country and a
continent but they didn't countit.

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It's like, okay, well, no oneanswered that in the poll.
It's a huge country.
What are you talking?

Speaker 3 (27:16):
about.
It's like that's open tointerpretation.
It's a lot dirtier so you justgot to guess.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
You just got to guess .
Anyways, I don't know how wegot on the whole poll thing, but
I never got polled for myattention span, so I am
reluctant to One big point onthe attention span.

Speaker 4 (27:31):
Thing I'd like to add to is everything is short form
now, like when it comes tovideos.
Like, if you, I remember when Iwas, you know, 12, 13 years old
and there was like a reallycool BMX video, you know.
It was like a eight minute, 10minute YouTube video of a dude
banging out a bunch of tricksand I was obsessed with the
video.
I probably watch it a hundredtimes, you know, or a car video,

(27:52):
or a snowmobile video.
And I was just in a rabbit holea few weeks ago watching all
those old videos that I thoughtwere super cool and I was like
why don't those?
Why isn't?
Why aren't those around anymore?
Why, you know?

Speaker 2 (28:04):
a long form cool video.
They're around, they just don'tget views.

Speaker 4 (28:08):
Yeah and then and people aren't making them
because they know if it's notthat instant dopamine
stimulation of a 30 second video, it's just not gonna hold
viewership anymore.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
It's really not.
I mean, yeah, I used to buyskate videos on dvd that were
like 30 minutes to an hour.
I still have a bunch in thewindow over there.
It's 30 minutes to an hour longskate video.
You could never do that nowevery no trick individually.
Now is a clip on yeah, and youneed it.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
Don't bet again dopamine like if you think about
it like devil's advocate,you're seeing that many tricks
just condense.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
It's just chopping out the yeah, but some of those
videos have a two minute introlike where they won't it's like
a movie almost yeah like I.
A great example is there's thislike trophy truck video.
This guy named bj baldwin.
He goes around cuba jumping thestreets, doing all this cool
stuff, but the intro to thevideo is him playing blackjack
or poker with like cuban guyssmoking cigars and all that but

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it's like a minute and a halfintro of really nothing
happening just like cool b-rollyeah, it's just the cool, you
know, get in the vibe of thevideo.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
But now, if you put that video out now, nobody's
gonna stick through that twominutes yeah of watching that
before it gets to the cool partof the video yeah, I actually I
thought of this idea for yeah,for like, when this like the
subway surfer tiktok thing andgta thing was first becoming
popular, I thought of this ideafor a tiktok that was like the
subway surfer tiktok thing andgta thing was first becoming
popular.
I thought of this idea for atiktok that was like the top

(29:36):
half of the video is likesomeone crying about you know a
funeral or whatever, and thenthe bottom is like yeah it's
like some meme song playing yeah

Speaker 3 (29:46):
because it feels like that's what it is or some
important state of the nationaddress or something.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
Yeah, you'll like see a rogan clip of them talking
about some debilitating braindisease that's running rampant
right now, but it's like SubwaySurfer.
What the?

Speaker 4 (30:01):
fuck is going on, the only way it can hold the
attention.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
Yeah, I don't know.
You put a GTA clip in front ofme.
I'll sink into the video.
That's the thing that pisses meminecraft running yeah, oh, oh
yeah, over the blocks doing likeyeah so there's actually this
app that I have that I make ourcaptions for our clips on.
That has this new featurethat's ai that you can upload
stories from reddit and it'llturn that into captions and the

(30:26):
audio is read by this ai programcalled 11 labs, and it's like I
mean, you've all heard thevoice oh, I know exactly, you
know that this guy and it's,it's.
You can literally copy and pastea reddit story and it'll spit
out a minecraft like runningvideo with the text on the
screen for you, and a lot ofthese people are like cranking

(30:47):
out a hundred of these a day andthere's accounts making
thousands of dollars off ofthese copy and pasted reddit
stories do you know what thedifference?
I've contributed so much tothat I'm the worst before I
learned about that.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
Yeah, me too especially just being a stony
bastard dude if I get caught ona good reddit story along with
the the speed jumping coursesdude yeah, that's like halfway
through you realize it's just afictional story.
It's like fuck or you got to goto part two and it's like how
bad do I really need?

Speaker 2 (31:20):
to yeah, we should make one like a channel, just
for fun.
That's just like word vomit,that doesn't make any sense kind
of like an onion kind of.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
Yeah, it's like a minecraft speed run.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
But it's like did you know that when you and you and
then you and you can, and thenyou and then and then you know
what I?

Speaker 4 (31:36):
mean Like just some see how long they watch, yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
See what the retention is like.
I'm sure it'd be high, higherthan you would expect, probably.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
I'd hang on to see.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
I want to see the other side of the tunnel I want
to see him dig I want to see himdig down.
Jesus Christ boys.
I hate to be a selfish son of abitch, but I've got a piece of
fucking bad.
Can we please take a bathroombreak?
Brb, it's time for a bathroombreak.
The boys will be right back.

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What up, skinny Mitch?
All right, we're back.

Speaker 4 (32:15):
The topic I would like to talk about is Kanye.
I don't know if anyone hasnoticed, but he's been.
He's watching actually.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
This all started with the album announcements, or the
small publicity stunts.
His Super Bowl commercial wildyou click on.

Speaker 4 (32:30):
Yeezycom, and it's just one white t-shirt with a
swastika yeah, uh, today heposted a picture of a chain like
he wants someone like a jewelerto make him a swastika chain
like a hundred thousand dollardiamond swastika, somebody will
do it it is getting hard, uh, todefend him at this point.
I've've always been a Kanyeride or die.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
No matter what Kanye does, I've it's the chair.

Speaker 4 (32:58):
Dude I Kanye, he's my number one Spotify listen, he's
my guy.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
I feel like he gets the pass, though I feel like
even if he does a crazy shit,that's a crazy one.

Speaker 4 (33:12):
It's kind of like having.
I'm not going to say Kanye ismy best friend by any means.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
But you know, it's kind of like your best friend,
he's like a father figure to me.

Speaker 4 (33:19):
If your best friend, even if he fucks up and you know
he did something wrong, youstill take your best friend's
side.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
You know, same thing with Kanye, when he would post
something wild, you know I woulddo my darndest and there's like
to defend some level of likeokay, well, what he meant was,
or like what his, you always try.

Speaker 4 (33:39):
You know he posts something crazy.
You're like no, no, just youwait, it's gonna be part.
He's smarter than us, he'sgonna have some ploy, like it's,
you know he was saying jesusloved hitler yeah, but you know
he started posting a lot ofHitler stuff a couple weeks ago.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
He's off the meds.

Speaker 4 (33:55):
And then he got banned from Twitter because he
started posting a bunch of corncontent along with the Yadov
Yitler posts.
And then he came back, didn'tchange at all, kept going on
about the anti-Semitism stuff,got banned again and now he's

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unbanned again and he's doing itagain um, what are, what are
some of the recent?
So a funny one that, um, I sawwas call me yadoff hitler, and
your bitch still wants to fuckthat's a funny one.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
Today I'll make for a banger hook dude uh here's
another good one.

Speaker 4 (34:34):
I love hitler.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
Now, what bitches um what's another one I got here is
this a real thing or is thisall publicity stunt that?
Do you think he's really?

Speaker 4 (34:46):
into see hitler.
I want to say it's a publicitystunt because he's my boy, but I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
It's getting hard.

Speaker 4 (34:57):
That's crazy.
I swear I had one, oh yeah.
Another funny one is it had nocaption.
He just said Apple is gay inall capital letters.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
True but still fucked up.

Speaker 4 (35:11):
I don't know how to defend him anymore and I don't
know if it's a ploy, if it'ssome type of publicity stunt you
think?
Connie's actually an androidguy no way he's sending.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
There's no way.
He's an android guy.
He's got a mac set up.

Speaker 4 (35:24):
What I what I was thinking about, that that's
funny to me is so he puts allthese like random spaces after,
like, if you see, here it says Ilove hitler, and it's like
space, space, space, space.
Now what bitches.
But you know, on an iphone whenyou click space two times it
puts a period.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
Yeah, you gotta go back to delete you gotta go back
.

Speaker 4 (35:46):
so on these posts there's tons of spaces.
So I just imagine kanye typingthis and it puts a period and
he's like fuck and he has to goback three times to delete the
period.
So, by the time he's donemaking one post.
He's edited it five times andeven after taking 10 minutes,
he's still like yes.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
I'm posting.
Did you come up with thattheory on your own?
Yeah, that's fucking brilliantdude.
That's probably what it is lotof thought into that.

Speaker 4 (36:10):
I'm trying to defend him and I can't anymore, because
that just proves he puts moretime into the post.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
Hear me out, right, hear me out.
Do you necessarily have todefend him?
Can't you differentiate betweenhim as musician and him as him?

Speaker 4 (36:26):
I think I'm starting to get to that point.

Speaker 3 (36:29):
He could like everyone brings like as the the
the can you separate kanye from?
Yay, michael jackson, yeahkanye kanye the musician from
yay, the person dude, michaeljackson.
That's a great point you know,that's like the like number one,
like correlation or like thatthey throw out there in like
comparison is that confirmedthat he was a weirdo?

(36:51):
Though.
Oh yeah, I think it's, it'spretty well documented.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
I mean, I think he's a that he was a weirdo, though.
Oh yeah, really it's prettywell documented.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
I mean, I think he's a freak, he's a real diddler.

Speaker 4 (36:56):
I think it's crazy how you can be a diddler and
it's a huge deal.
You touch a kid.
Your career is over what?

Speaker 1 (37:04):
You think they shouldn't do anything.
No, no, no, let me finish.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
Let me finish how, if you touch a kid, your career is
over.
I think that's how it should be.
But if you make some good songsand you touch a kid, then
they're like ah you know we'llkeep playing his music.
We don't got to talk about thatSpecifically you're talking
about Michael Jackson.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
Yeah, how it just gets kind of kicked off because
he makes it, you're not giving apass.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
This is not like a future strategy.

Speaker 4 (37:27):
No a pastor saying it's right.
I'm just saying it's funny howit should be if someone touches
a kid, but if they make goodmusic it's like ah, Just artists
in general, you gotta be fuckedup to do the good shit.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
Yeah, I mean, if you're talking the 1%, I mean
there's a little bit somethingwrong with them in general.
They're a different person thaneveryone else.
That's why they're at the placethat they're at exactly.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
See, I think kanye has always been anti-semitic and
he's just finally letting itout.
I think everything he'stweeting he's wanted to say for
a real long fucking time.
He's just now like whatever,well, it's time to rip it was
probably a year or two ago.

Speaker 4 (38:09):
He made that clip of the when he was talking.
The guy was interviewing him.
It was something about like adoctor and he was like I don't
want to say what race the doctorwas, and he crosses his arms,
he goes it was a jewish doctorso yeah, I think he's definitely
hated him for a while and nowhe's just going all out.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
I I mean I feel like he's just an all out.
I don't really give a fuck modebecause like he kind of has
proven he's like said crazy shitbefore but still like he's
still gonna be kanye and I feellike he's just well, dude and
kanye, you know, going off ofwhat tyler's saying about how he
just loves him, and it's hardfor him to get past this like I.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
I'm the same way, dude.
I discovered kanye fully when Iwas immersed in the Kanye
college dropout His biggest hits.
I was probably a senior in highschool.
I just wanted to be Kanye Westand then his documentary came
out shortly after.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
The Netflix, the trio , and it's like dude.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
When they first started showing him when he was
young he was just this cocky kidwith balls of steel, knew he
had it, but then he made it.
Loved his mom yeah, you know itwas so tough because I just
like it's like.
I just love the music, I lovethe come-up story.
I definitely don't like whereit's at, I like how he was.
Uh like he started off as aproducer but he knew that like
he was a rapper too.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
But then all was, uh, like he started off as a
producer but he knew that likehe was a rapper too, but then
all the other like he had tobreak through that barrier of
like every other rapper beinglike shut the fuck up, just
produce I think it's crazy howhe always knew he was going to
be famous like he videoedhimself like he was already
famous but that's every that'sthat is a lot of people yeah no,

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we know some of them

Speaker 1 (39:51):
no way, dude I'm.
There is nobody else that, whenthey have nothing, have a guy
move over to new york to starttheir documentary before he's
ever sold a big beat or been onanything worth maybe, maybe not
move, but definitely guys thatwill follow other guys around
with their phones, with a cameraand film everything they're

(40:12):
doing 24-7.

Speaker 4 (40:13):
In the early 2000s, though In the early 2000s,
though Now everyone hasInstagram, everyone has YouTube.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
Yeah, you're right, but in early 2000,.

Speaker 4 (40:20):
When you had a fucking VHS recorder.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
But that's the thing.
We just don't know because theydon't get big.
We don't see that.
I think it's probably morecommon than we think it is.
Yeah, I think it's more commonnow Because there's a lot of
people out there with just ablind belief that they're going
to be king shit.
But we just never hear of them.
I think, now we see more of itbecause of social media.

Speaker 3 (40:45):
But that's just.
It's more or less.
Back then they didn't have thatdistraction or that that like
visibility.
Yeah, they didn't have YouTube,they didn't have, so they just
put their focus into the workitself.
The barrier to entry is so low.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
now you can take a video on your phone and post it.

Speaker 3 (41:03):
That's a good point too.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Back then you had to get a record deal you had to
specifically your mission wasI'm going to do this, you know.
Now it's like everyone's got aphone.

Speaker 4 (41:11):
You pretty much couldn't make it on your own.
You had to get some sort ofdeal.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
And that's what was fucked about the music industry
in general is they had artistsby the balls.
You can't do anything unless wesign you.
And we're going to sign you tosuch a terrible deal that we're
going to own you for the next 10years and if you don't sign it,
we're going to blacklist youand no one else will and it's
like all right fucking sign itup.

Speaker 3 (41:34):
The only way to get in that position, too, is just
by talking to the right peopleand getting them, Like you had
to be around those people thatcould get you in those positions
where you could take thosedeals.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
And then you're already doing weird shady shit
to get in those conversations.
Then you're at Diddy's house,dude Then.

Speaker 4 (41:48):
then you're at Diddy's house but the crazy part
about Kanye is he's always kindof been a meme like he's it's
not, like this is out of nowhere, like he's always kind of been
just weird, funny.
Well, the Taylor Swift awardthing, kind of like Trump.
Or have you seen the poopityscoop?
You know, how he made the track, or whatever, and got it just

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to piss off, was it Drake?

Speaker 1 (42:12):
I think Drake wanted the beat.

Speaker 4 (42:14):
And Kanye overbid Drake just to make a song and
all he said was poopity soon.
And it blew up, and that's whatmakes me want to defend him in
this scenario.
It's gotta be something.
There's gotta be something moreto it.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
That clip where they're raising money for
charity and he looks at thecamera.
He's like george bush hatesblack people he's always said
wild shit.

Speaker 4 (42:41):
He's always said wild shit, so that what?
That's what makes me want todefend him.
But when you want to defend aguy that uh is selling swastikas
on his one tweet, it was likegreat day to wake up and
practice anti-semitism.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
Get this, though.
Like what if this is justanother avenue for him to be
like?
I have so much confidence inmyself that I can do this
Exactly the craziest.

Speaker 4 (43:06):
And still be successful.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
The worst thing you can think of.
I can sell just the t-shirtwith a swastika on it.
I'm going to come out with analbum and I still know it's
going to be fire.

Speaker 4 (43:14):
Yeah, that's almost.
I still know it's going to hit.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
Yeah, so it's like it's, that's my only defense
left honestly.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
And how much of a flex would it be?

Speaker 4 (43:28):
People are going to listen to it mean that's
probably the only worst thing hecould do.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
Hit a woman.
Yeah, good point.

Speaker 4 (43:37):
Give him a little smack.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
Oh my God, I'm sure Kanye fully believes in that.
It's the Mitch chair.

Speaker 4 (43:42):
It's the Mitch chair.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
Did you hear about the Galaxy Gas thing.

Speaker 4 (43:47):
I mean, I know what it is.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
His previous management had come out and said
I'm done representing Kanye.
On my own free will, I quitbecause his dentist was
supplying him with $200,000 amonth worth of laughing gas and
he was totally addicted to thislaughing gas.

(44:10):
See, I call cap on that.

Speaker 4 (44:14):
You don't think it's real.
I don't.
Kanye truly doesn't seem like adrug guy to me you like.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
Okay, what kind of state he's?

Speaker 4 (44:20):
on a lot of stuff.
It seems like he's not on drugsright now and that's what's
making him maybe go a little offthe handle, like it seems like
he doesn't want.
He said that.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
He was taking meds because he thought he had
bipolar disorder.

Speaker 4 (44:36):
I think he does.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
He found out he's actually on the spectrum and
that it's not bipolar disorder.

Speaker 4 (44:41):
They were treating him wrong.
He's on the spectrum, 100%.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
He has the superpowers.
That was the kind where youhave the superpowers.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
He was one of the first people to say crazy shit
and blame it on autism.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
I'm autistic.
I'm trying to find the monthlyexpenditure on Galaxy Gas from
Kanye.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
You ever get into Galaxy Gas?

Speaker 4 (45:09):
What a cool name, my girlfriend actually called me
autistic yesterday in anon-joking way and it kind of
stung.
She knew, dude, did you thinkwhat a cool name?
My girlfriend actually calledme autistic yesterday in a
non-joking way and it kind ofstung.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
She knew.
Dude, Did you think?
What did you do?

Speaker 4 (45:17):
Well, I don't know, I think I'm.
I always say I'm autistic.
You know I'm like 70% serious,but like I don't want people to
say I am, and she just fullysaid we were just in the hot tub
.
And she just fully said we'rejust in the hot tub.
And she just goes like I knowyou're autistic, Like it wasn't

(45:39):
a joke, like you know.
There wasn't a giggle after itand I don't know it took me back
Because I think I am a littlebit on the spectrum.
But to hear it from your owngirlfriend and be like I know
you're, oh man.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
And to mean it too.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
Okay, so the allegations were made by his
former chief of staff for therapper's campaign for president.
I also forgot he ran forpresident.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
I voted for him.
I did.

Speaker 4 (46:06):
Did you actually, I think I did.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
So his former chief of staff claims that Dr Thomas
Connelly, the dentist whoprovided West with titanium
teeth, was charging the rapper$50,000 a month to cover an
ongoing supply of nitrous oxide.
The former campaign managerclaims that Kanye struggles with
nitrous oxide addiction andthat Connelly took advantage of

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that to make money.
He shared images on socialmedia that he says are texts
between Connelly, connelly andWest that prove these claims,
and he also claimed that thedentist has done this with other
black celebrities.
But spokespeople for theConnelly defense claim made up
the story for attention.
So I don't know.
I don't know.

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That was on FHEHealthcom.
I don't want to believe it.

Speaker 4 (46:55):
Is it that good?
And I don't believe it.
Is it that good?

Speaker 2 (46:57):
Never had Actually to the back, I think, put under
with or had nitrous when I gotmy wisdom teeth taken out.

Speaker 4 (47:05):
I don't know.
You should probably try itbefore you talk shit about it.
You know, yeah, it's not bad.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
I've been dipping into the whipped cream can a
little too late.

Speaker 4 (47:15):
A little high, a little upside down.
Whipped cream can Dude, that'sjust a headache.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
Straight up and down.
That's just a headache.
I've never, I've never caught agood buzz off I got kicked out
of a sex store once for askingif this whipped cream canister
that literally looked like amouthpiece.
I was like, is this forWhippets?
Is this legal to sell?
And the lady blew up on me, theclerk at this place.
Actually, now that you've saidthat I can no longer sell

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anything to you, so she answeredthat question.
Please leave our establishmentand I'm like, wait what?
First off, I wasn't even goingto buy anything.
Second off, is this what peopleare really buying?

Speaker 4 (47:52):
this thing?
For what's your deal?
Getting kicked out, Do you getkicked off the dinner table?
Kicked out of your friend'shouse, kicked out of sex stores?
Buddy's got a rough history,brother.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
Yeah, I think you're the common denominator here.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
Yeah, it sounds like it's your problem.
Maybe it's in my tonality.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
People just fucking hate you.
I'm a victim, cheekab, didn'tyou run in on a on a woman on
whippets?

Speaker 4 (48:17):
one time and she's just acting, yeah well, crazy.
Yeah, uh, my dad did a littlebit of tow truck driving and, uh
, there was this lady.
She was in a chrysler caravanat walmart, go figure, and car
wasn't running.
So he got a call to go get herand he opens the door and she's
in there just sucking down thewhippets Actively.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
My dad didn't know what it was, he just sees all
these cans, it's like damn, thisbitch left with cream and she's
just sucking on the Where's thepie?
I think it was like the theduster.

Speaker 4 (48:45):
The computer duster spray.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (48:48):
So she's in there getting high as shit off of it
and my dad doesn't know what todo.
So she gets done.
He like takes the can from her,hooks the tow truck up, he's
under there strapping it,whatever.
It goes back to the van andshe's found a new can and she's
sucking on it again.
He takes the can, throws it,makes her get in the tow truck,
brings her to the dealership andthen he goes inside grab some

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paperwork or something, comesback out and she's in the trunk
of the van sucking the whippets.

Speaker 3 (49:15):
Dude, how many did she buy?
And how was she able to buythat thing?

Speaker 4 (49:18):
Well, my dad said, the whole van was just canned.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
Like did she buy it from that Walmart?

Speaker 4 (49:24):
Airduster Did she have to go to a bunch Radio.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
Shack.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
Walmart, I don't know .
You'd think you'd get flagged,maybe.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
Yeah, 100 whippets in the last two weeks.
They keep the fucking headlampsbehind a glass case.
With this one I can't imaginethey'd let you walk out with
more than one can man?

Speaker 4 (49:38):
they're putting everything behind glass cases.
Now it's really awkward.
Like Sudafed.
It's really awkward.
The meth he's ruined it.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
For Sudafed.
It's like bitch.
You think I'm a meth-ed.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
Be a good cover-up.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
I guess Good that would be a good cover-up, I
guess.
Good weight loss plan yeah, I'mtrying to lose weight.
Oh, methic yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
Ozempic doesn't really seem very healthy.
I'm not sure about the sideeffects.
I'm just going to try meth.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
Yeah, actually there's no reason why I'm buying
this car battery, Sudafed, thispan, this bot and all this
other supplies.
So mind your own business.
Isn't that a thing where, ifyou go buy certain things
together, that you know they arenot allowed to sell it to you
yeah, I always heard that as akid.
Like you, can't buy, you know xamount of suit of whatever,

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whatever, whatever.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
Yeah, I don't know, I don't know, I don't think they
really care, it's like thatscene from, yeah, that scene
from breaking bad, where he'slike, where he bumps into that
dude that's buying all this shitand he's like no, you're
getting the wrong shit.
And he's telling him what toget, he just drops it, runs out.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
Dude, you guys ever see them fucking Walmart workers
that take their job way tooseriously when they think
someone's stealing.
Oh my God, they're justgrabbing their cart, fucking
shutting the doors on them.

Speaker 4 (50:51):
Dude, I have a rant about the secret shoppers.
So our Walmart.
We've had the same secretshoppers forever and they wear
the same outfit and they neverpick someone inconspicuous.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
I've never known who they are.

Speaker 4 (51:05):
They always pick the wildest people Like the most.
People that would stand out ina crowd are always the secret
shoppers, okay.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
Do they literally just walk around the store?

Speaker 4 (51:15):
Yeah, they just walk around all day.
They have no shopping cart.
They're wearing a blue shirtand it's so clear that you've
seen a walk around every timeyou've gone to walmart for the
last two years like you thinkthey just walk around like it's
clearly a secret shopper, one ofthem was was a trans woman and
I don't know.
But that's pretty easy to topick up.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
How did you see a trans?
You know there's something upwith them well, because did they
?

Speaker 4 (51:40):
prove it to you that they were well the first time
she was a woman exposed yourselfwell, she was a woman and then
you know, every time I would seeher over the years she got a
little more manly like hell.
There was a beard and you knowstuff there's an item in that
cart.
But it's like why do you pickthem to be the secret shopper,
and why don't they even push acart around?

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They could at least throw someshit in the cart.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
Pretend you're shopping.

Speaker 4 (52:05):
Actually try.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
Dude, I could be a hell of a secret shopper.

Speaker 4 (52:08):
They pick the most obvious people and then don't
make them push a cart around oranything.
Obvious people and then don'tmake them push a cart around or
anything.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
I don't know how they would ever catch anything.
I actually got a good story onthis.
I got my ass secret shopped onwhen I was probably 10, 11 years
old.
Were you stealing?
You got caught, kind of.
It was very, very small.
I was buying these shoes andthey had a pair of Vans in there
and Vans always used to comewith a sticker the Vans off.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
The wall sticker was like the skateboard with the
logo.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
The red.
I was like I don't want to buythe Vans, but I really want that
sticker.
So I took the sticker out ofthe Vans and put it in the shoe
box of the shoes I was buyingand they caught my ass, followed
me right to the checkout, openthat box.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
What's in the?

Speaker 2 (52:50):
box, oh shoes, what else?

Speaker 4 (52:56):
Made me pull out the sticker confronted me get on the
ground just by myself.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
Luckily, my parents weren't there or anything what
did you try to lie?

Speaker 4 (53:01):
or were you just like , yeah, I took the sticker?

Speaker 2 (53:03):
full deer in the headlights.
I'm just like, yep, you got meI'm so sorry did they do
anything?
No, it was a sticker I mean,what are they?
Gonna do that they werewatching me.
They watched me, put it in theboxes.
How else would they have?

Speaker 1 (53:16):
known.
I used to stay in theself-checkout so hard.
All it took was one AI.
It literally will tell you AIdetected, scan or whatever you
missed an item, it'll stop themachine.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
It locks it up.
Someone has to come and type intheir code.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
I had to give them the.
I don't know what happened.

Speaker 4 (53:33):
And then they had the video of you on camera, just
like putting it in the bag.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
Dude one time and I was like never again.
I'm too old to be doing shitlike this, like there's never a
good age to steal.
It's like one of the worstthings you can do for your own
personal name.
But if you're past I don't know16 and you get caught stealing,
you're just a piece of shit fora long time.

Speaker 4 (53:57):
If you're a kid, it's like you're a kid you get one
chance as a young kid.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
Even, like I know, kids that got caught stealing
young and something goes missing.
We're in a small town, shitgoes missing.
Those names are always throwninto the loop.

Speaker 3 (54:11):
All it takes is that one time, right off the bat,
he's a stealer, he Always throwninto the loop.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
Yeah, all it takes is that one time, right off the
bat, he's a stealer.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
He probably took it.
Dude, 100%.
Yeah, or you hit them up.
Hey, my buddies Actually it'sfunny they say it, but I had a
friend that had a phone stolenat the skate park and I just
went through the Rolodex of kidsin my class that I knew that
stole shit.
Hey, did you take this?
Did you take?

Speaker 4 (54:32):
this, did you get them?

Speaker 2 (54:32):
Do you know who did?
We never found them.

Speaker 4 (54:35):
Dude, I got caught stealing.
I got caught stealing.
It was truly an accident.
I was at Walmart at theself-checkout.
It was after a long day at work.
You know, you're just like halfawake.
At that point You're like fuckit, I'm going to steal.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
And I pretty much.

Speaker 4 (54:47):
I just grabbed like a gallon of milk and I just took
it right from my cart and justput it in the bag.
I was going to the cart beepingeverything, put it in the bag,
and then I was just out of itand I just put the gallon of
milk right in the bag withoutscanning it, and now it videos
you and then it replays thevideo when someone comes over.

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So I put it in there.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
Well, there's a scale on the bag side too.

Speaker 4 (55:12):
Yeah right, so they know.
They Well there's a scale onthe bag side too.
Yeah, right, so they know, theyknow.
Like, oh, this just got reallyheavy and you didn't scan
anything.
Yeah, it noticed right away.
And then it like locked themachine up or whatever you know,
and I was like what the fuck?
And then the attendant comesover and she clicks like play on
the video and on the screen itjust shows me grabbing the scale
and putting it right in the bag.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
And I was like listen , I know it looks bad.
I swear I did not do that onpurpose, it was a total accident
and luckily it was.

Speaker 4 (55:40):
I think it was someone who just didn't give a
fuck and they're like, yeah,it's fine.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
Well, um, let's go yeah when we had red on for the
blue collar happy hour, red'sliquor box, red um, he was
talking about the people thatsteal from his store.
The most are people with kids,because it's an easy cop-out
Make the kid grab it.
Parents at checkout now,first-hand experience.

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If I got both the boys with meand I'm by myself Taylor's not
there it is so easy to forget toscan stuff because I can't
leave it in the bagging area.
I have to put it back in thecart Cause I constantly got to
be like making sure the kidsaren't like trying to jump out
of the cart or like yourbandwidth.
Most of your bandwidth, like Iconstantly have one hand kind of
on the card at the same time.
So I'm like scanning andbegging and putting it back in

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the other side of the cart,keeping it separated.
But I could see it being reallyeasy if you were trying to
deliberately.
You know you just mixeverything together and then
just don't scan half of thestuff.
I could see that being so easy.
That's what red was talkingabout.
He's caught multiple people,like with kids, like you're like
handing the kids the candy barand then if they get caught like

(56:46):
oh my bad, like the kid justgrabbed it.
You know, people do that all thetime.

Speaker 1 (56:51):
Dude, I do that all the time, dude, I worked at
red's gas station when I was inhigh school and one time, like
dude, shitty ass, van like astrovan style pulls up six heavily
overweight women, fucking whitetrash.
Walk in like dude.
You, you'll be able to tellbased off the first thing they
said.
They walk in.

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One of them looks right at me.
Says y y'all take EBT Like yo,fuck dude.
I have never seen anything likethis in my life, and within a
snap of a fingers they justgrabbed shit off the shelves,
ran to the van and took off.
Dude, I didn't even know whatto think.
I'm sitting there like uh, I'mtrying to get their license
plate.
I could only get half of it.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
I was fucking shaking .
I'm like, fuck yeah, I get tocall the cops.
I never got to call them, neverfucking got them.
Dude, did you get the fulllicense?

Speaker 1 (57:43):
plate or no?
No, I didn't.
I thought I got a full one.
They're like we can't find it Ilet my boss down.

Speaker 3 (57:49):
Oh, I remember, uh, working at menards like back in
college, and then, uh, it waslike late at night there's
probably two people, storesclose and then you have to sweep
the departments, basically kickeveryone out of there.
There was one guy that was leftthere and he was stealing and
we heard whispers from the otherdepartment oh, someone's

(58:09):
stealing, someone's stealing.
And then there was always thatone guy that was like, oh, fuck,
that Fuck that I'll find, andit's like dude.
Everyone else was just like dudeFucking let him.
It's time to go home.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
Actually I have a very similar story.
I worked at Sears in college InGrand Forks and one of the
manager on duty there was a guythat was stealing right at
closing time.
He had a cart full of powertools.
It was all craftsman shit andthe manager was like fuck that.
She went and locked all thedoors and so like no one gets
out, and so he goes to the doorand then he leaves the cart, he

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runs to the other door and it'slocked and and by the time the
cops get there they're like youcan't fucking do that, like you
can't hold him in here well,he's technically like they.

Speaker 3 (58:53):
They us like.
I don't know why.
They told us we were likedriving forklifts and shit, but
like you're technically notstealing Certified.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
Until they leave.

Speaker 3 (59:01):
Yeah, exactly.
So it's like you can't.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
Yeah, until you cross the line, Like what is stealing
.
Walmart's policy is that theycan't stop someone.

Speaker 3 (59:10):
Yeah, yeah, you can you, can't like?
Oh, I've seen plenty of videoswhere they try yeah, they can't
like touch you yeah, they justdon't, they have insurance in
place.
They have a budget for peoplestealing x amount every month
whatever.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
They literally pay someone in loss prevention to
figure out ways to stop peoplefrom stealing stuff like they.
It's a big enough industry.
They lose enough money to paypeople to watch that.

Speaker 4 (59:36):
Yeah, speaking of police, I had a little run in
with the police the other day.

Speaker 3 (59:41):
Well, what were you?

Speaker 4 (59:42):
stealing.
I wasn't.
I wasn't doing anything wrong.
Milk at Walmart.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
Well, I was driving the fucking milk bandit's back.
I was on, I would be the milkbandit.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
Off of work again, buddy?
Yeah, I would be the milkbandit.

Speaker 3 (59:55):
If I, I would be the milk bandit.

Speaker 4 (59:57):
So I was on my way home from the gym and I was On a
double solid, you know, a twolane, two solid line road where
you can't pass, you know, and Icome around the corner.
It was out here on Cross LakeRoad and there was a car going
like 10 or 15 miles an hour.
So I'm passing.
I didn't say fuck it and wasrowdy about it.

(01:00:19):
I went around him like youwould go around like a gentleman
like you would go around atractor that was on the side of
the road.
It was kind of like looking themoff blowing.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
It was not so nice of a car.

Speaker 4 (01:00:28):
So I figured maybe there's something wrong with the
car, you know.
So I just gently try to goaround him.
I with the car, you know.
So I just gently try to goaround him.
I didn't even hardly accelerate.
And then as I'm going aroundhim, he floors the vehicle.
And then at this, like I couldsee that there was no cars going
, but it was a double yellowbecause there was a curve coming
up next.
So I have to floor my vehiclebecause I'm already pretty much

(01:00:51):
almost past them.
And now I see another carcoming towards me so I have to
floor my truck.
So now I'm going head on with atruck wide open, trying to get
around this guy because hefloors his vehicle.
So I get around him and thenthe dude starts following me.
Everywhere through town A copgoes by and he's like trying to
flag down the cop and point atme and I'm like all right.

(01:01:13):
I'm going to see what's going on.
I pull over, the guy gets outof his car, comes up to me and
he's like it's a fucking doublesolid line and I was like I get
that.
I was like I know that that'smy bad, I know did you almost
get citizens arrested.
You put you know, so this isthe funny part, he was acting
like he was a cop.
So he, he gets a secret driver.
He wasn't pretending, he wasacting like he was a cop, so he

(01:01:34):
he gets a secret driver hewasn't pretending, he was acting
like he was a secret driver andhe gets out.
He comes out to my window andstarts yelling at me.
I was like I understand, I knowit's a wl, my bad, I thought
there was something wrong andthen he starts pulling the phone
out, you know recording yeah,taking pictures of my face
freaking out and then he's likeI'm gonna fucking find out where

(01:01:54):
the fuck you live, bud, and Iwas like holy shit, at this
point I don't want to try tofight this guy.
I don't know if he's on crack, Idon't know anything about it.
So I'm like, okay, dude, I putmy truck in, drive, I start
pulling, the weight punches theside of my truck.
I'm like, geez, so I hadstopped again.

(01:02:15):
I'm like what are you doing?
He's like I got you now,motherfucker.
And he just keeps shoving thephone in my face.
I was like okay, whatever.
So I drive to the car wash andthen I leave the car wash and
he's sitting in the in thelaundromat parking lot waiting
for me to get out of the carwash, starts following me around
town and then obviously I don'twant to go home.
Do you got to lose him?
Yeah, so I'm going left, goingright zigzagging around and he

(01:02:40):
will not stop following me.
I drive for probably 15 minutesup through town and around and
won't stop following me.
So I called the cops and I waslike this dude is, I don't know
what the deal is.

Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
And then I gave him the plate number and all that
and then they said they weregoing to send a sheriff on the
way, and then he turned offeventually.
Oh, you lucked out, dude, dudethat's when you just drive.

Speaker 4 (01:03:03):
Because they said they said that they were sending
a unit to me and then he pulledoff like a couple minutes oh,
like he had his own radar he waslistening, but oh, when I
forgot the the best part.
When he was going back to hiscar After he punched my truck, I
said what are you a fucking copor something?
He was like yeah, close enough.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
I know people and I was like alright, do you even
know who my father is?

Speaker 4 (01:03:26):
Yeah, do you know who my dad is?
Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
Oh dude, when I was 16 I got in a situation when I
was driving to my buddy's houseand there's this curve, like a
really steep curve, and I don'teven know in the moment, maybe I
did take it a little tight.
I didn't remember taking ittight, but all of a sudden I'm
driving and I noticed thisvehicle's behind me, fucking
guys hanging out the window,just like I can't hear anything,

(01:03:51):
but I can, just I can tell he'sfucking screaming at me and so
I'm 16.
I've never had anything likethis happen.
I'm in a shitty little 2000Chevy Blazer and he's in some
shitty Chevy truck and he'schasing me all through town.
I blew a couple stop signs,almost died myself.
This guy's just chasing me,still hanging out his window.
I go all the way out onPekagamaama Lake Road, go for

(01:04:14):
about five, six miles, finallytails off.
Well, I come back, find out thedude that was chasing me was my
buddy's like three house downneighbor.
And so when I go back to go tomy buddies, I see the truck down
in the driveway.
I'm like holy, fuck.
It all kind of clicked like Iknow.
And this guy I'd already knowna little bit about him before

(01:04:36):
this and once I put it togetherhe's like I was 16.
He was probably 28, lived withhis parents Like a fucking loser
.
And so a couple days later, meand my buddy are driving past
and I roll down the window andI'm like, fuck you, Elliot.
His name was Elliot, if anyonewants to know shout out to
elliot and I was like fuck you.

(01:04:58):
Elliot and his parents wereoutside the house, so we go to
my buddy's house park next.
You know, we're just hangingout upstairs.
We hear the doorbell ring, ring, ring.
Like what?
The fuck first of all, whorings it three times?
Second well who the fuck wouldring the doorbell right now and
his dad's at work.
So we go down and it's it'sthese fucking old people.
We're like what the fuck areyou doing here?

(01:05:19):
And they're like you justscreamed at our son and like you
, 28 year old son they're likewe need to talk to your father
and they got us all in trouble.
Well, I find out later becausethe the guy that elliot shout
out that was chasing me.
He was bragging about how hewas 12 beers deep, chasing this

(01:05:40):
kid around town, dude.
Oh, my God Like can you imagineif I would have stopped and he
just like beat the fuck out ofme or something?

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
Dude, that's what always freaks me out.
It's like I don't want to getinto a situation because, also,
you don't know what crazymotherfuckers got a gun in their
car.

Speaker 4 (01:05:57):
When the dude came up to my truck, your initial
reaction is like I'm going tofight this guy and then you're
like, all right, he could beinsane.
That's the guy that we had onthe podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
Alexander Denny that was how he went to prison was a
road rage incident.
He got pulled over by a guy.
He's screaming at him, startsrushing up to him, alexander
pulls out a knife and startsstabbing him.
Dude, and that's why he went toprison.

Speaker 4 (01:06:23):
Yeah that could happen.

Speaker 3 (01:06:25):
That's what I know, I know I work with a guy that
that happened.
It was over a parking spot andthen, uh, it was uh, the, and it
was the dude.
He was just yelling at him andthen they, you know, eventually
got at it and he pulls out aknife and stabs him and then he
goes like he goes back into hiscar, he has a T-ball bat and he

(01:06:45):
beat the shit out of him.
Then he took him to court.
He won because it wasself-defense, because he was
already stabbed, but he, like,he's like yeah, he talks a
little slower now.

Speaker 4 (01:06:53):
He literally fucked him up With a T-ball bat.

Speaker 3 (01:06:57):
Just over a parking spot.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
That's nuts.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
In the grand scheme of things.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
is it worth it?
Never, but it's like you neverknow when.

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
like you said, what the fuck the Apple River
incident where those kids gotstabbed and one of them even
died because they were justfucking with this old man,
because he was being weird.
And who would have thought hewas going to stab people, kill
somebody?
Yeah, Like you can't fuck aroundwith anybody.
Now there's a TikTok goingsuper viral right now.
Where it's this road rager?
He's like hitting this guy'swindow.

(01:07:28):
He's got a gun in his hand.
He's hitting the car with thiswindow and also in the driver.
Just pulls out his gun, shootshim in the face like three times
.
Whoa, like you, just you.
He went from being a big badman, fucking get the fuck out
knocking his gun on his truck tojust fucking.

Speaker 4 (01:07:45):
You see, he just also he was pounding on the window
and then with his gun and thenhe shot the driver no, the
driver shot the guy.
Oh so the guy's pounding on thewindow, and then he just pulls
a gun in your face.
Yeah literally.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
Would that?
Be Well, okay, so brandishing,I just went through a conceal
and carry class.

Speaker 4 (01:08:01):
Yes, perfect.

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
Brandishing your weapon with just the intent is
to scare the person.
That's a felony alone, rightthere.

Speaker 1 (01:08:10):
Just pulling it out and showing them.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
I have a gun.
If you don't plan to use it andyou're pulling it out just to
scare someone, that's a felony.

Speaker 3 (01:08:17):
Or even like flashing your holsters Really, even just
showing them your gun with.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
The intent is to de-escalate the situation by
showing them your firearm.
That's extremely illegal.

Speaker 4 (01:08:28):
So it's better to shoot them in the face than to
show the gun.

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
That's grounds for self-defense for sure, I mean
dead man can't talk like if he.
If they're bum rushing you,showing you their gun, that is
intimidation, right there likethat you.

Speaker 3 (01:08:41):
You have a really good case it might depend on the
state too, because each stateoh it definitely does what would
happen if you put yourself inthat guy's shoes.

Speaker 4 (01:08:47):
Let's say you were in the car and some crazy road
rager on drugs, you know and youhave.
You have taylor in the car, youhave lincoln cameron in the
bags, like this is a you know,your family, it's not just you
by yourself, yeah, and thatguy's pounding on the window
with his gun.

Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
I'm if I have a gun on me, I'm thousand percent
shooting this guy first.
Okay, let's my first instinctwould be I'm not stopping, I'm
not gonna let him be.
It's not gonna get to thatpoint, if I can go forward I'm
not staying in that spot.
But let's say I'm not gonna lethim be.
It's not gonna get to thatpoint if I can go forward.
I'm not staying in that spot.
But let's say I'm in bumper tobumper traffic, a drive through
whatever, yeah yeah, I'mshooting in this situation.

Speaker 4 (01:09:21):
It was bumper to bumper yeah, if I can't move,
I'm shooting.
But what if you pull your gunout and and he sees it before
you can shoot and just dips andruns.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
Yeah, I mean you can't shoot him while he's
running away.

Speaker 4 (01:09:33):
Exactly, yeah, I mean he calls the cops and said you
brand brandished your weapon,you know yeah, I mean, if he did
it first, you started, youcould still win that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
I would think if, what if he?
Didn't have a gun, then are youfucked yeah, definitely, if it
basically has to be the onlything you can do.
I've always if you pulling itout is the only reason you are
not gonna die.
That is the only reason you can.
I've always.
If you pulling it out is theonly reason you are not gonna
die, that is the only reason youcan I've always heard dead, men
can't talk like well they saylike if you're gonna use it
shoot to kill, like yeah,because if you like a lot of,

(01:10:05):
especially in minnesota, like ifthey live, you're fucked yeah
regardless of the situation.
They can be breaking into yourhouse.
I mean, this is a classicminnesota story someone broke
into someone's house, shoots theguy, he doesn't die.
He wins that lawsuit.

Speaker 4 (01:10:19):
That's insane dude, that's so.
How so did he shoot him in theback or did he shoot him and?

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
he just died.
It had to have been like whilehe was leaving, or whatever.
I can't remember exactly.
But I remember him losing.
I was like what.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
That's the thing, too , when it comes to these
self-defense cases and whenthere's a story that's not clear
cut, is you have to be good infront of the jury, even if you
are 100% in the right, if you'renot likable, believable, if
you're an extrovert?
Introvert if you're anintrovert and you can't convince
this jury, and then the thedefendant.
Sorry, my law terms are alittle low right now you would

(01:10:59):
be the defendant in thatsituation?
yes, but essentially, if youcan't convince the jury to like
you, you can be fucked, even ifyou're completely right.
Like you, don't want to alwaysleave it.

Speaker 4 (01:11:08):
That's the scary part about the law.

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
Yeah, that's why you get a good lawyer they say
literally on the back of thiscard that you get at the
concealing carry course, say ifyou have to use it there.
There's like an eight-stepprocess.
You literally keep this in yourwallet all the time because if
you have to use it, literallylook at the back of this.
You call 911.
You take any weapon away fromwhoever you just shot, even if

(01:11:29):
they're dead, whatever, makesure that nothing more can
happen.
You stay at the scene and youdon't say a fucking word.
Like you, they cops come,they're gonna ask you a shit ton
of questions.
You completely remain silent.
You have like 48 hours to givea statement.
Don't give it at the scene.
Uh, it's like this wholedetailed out thing and uh, yeah,
I mean, anything that you sayis not gonna help you regardless

(01:11:51):
if you tell your side of thestory, if you say anything, they
will only work against you,because couldn't the plaintiff
be like um, you know?

Speaker 4 (01:12:01):
oh well, then why didn't you say anything at the
scene?
Why?

Speaker 3 (01:12:03):
why no?

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
because, people will like falsify what they saw, but
like the or they'll.
Or they'll give minor detailsthat weren't act that didn't
actually happen, and then that'sgrounds for you know the other
person's lawyer in court.
Oh yeah, they'll give minordetails that weren't act that
didn't actually happen, and thenthat's grounds for you know the
other person's lawyer in court.
Oh yeah, they'll use thattotally against you.
So that's what they say.
Like you don't say anything,you say you literally you talk

(01:12:24):
to your lawyer first and nomatter what you go to jail?
Yeah, you're going to jail, nomatter what.
If you use it, if you show it,whatever, like you are going to
jail, yeah, you will sit.
You might get out right away,but you are going to jail for
sure.
Yeah, if you're going in on likea friday, you're not coming out
till monday for sure guaranteedyeah, so don't use it if you
don't have to, obviously, but inthat scenario that we were just

(01:12:46):
talking about guys banging onyour window with his gun, he's
already in the wrong.
If you got nowhere to go, yeah,you're good.
I mean, he's literally got agun.

Speaker 4 (01:12:54):
You don't know if it's loaded, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
Yeah, you're good to shoot all he has to do is turn
it from here to here and you'redone.

Speaker 1 (01:12:59):
You know yeah, yeah whatever, yeah, there's so many
people on edge nowadays that arejust looking for you to give
them a reason to act crazy, andI do everything I can to never
give anyone that reason likeyeah you just can't fuck with
people now dude, yeah, you can'tpull over.

Speaker 3 (01:13:14):
Like, yeah, you just can't fuck with people now, yeah
, you can't pull over.
I also didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:13:18):
I didn't get out of the vehicle, I just pulled over
and let's get.
Yeah, what's going on?
Did you roll the window downyeah, I pulled over and then I
saw him get out of the car andthen I put my truck.
I actually put my part.
I put my truck in park and then, when I saw him open the door,
I put my truck and drive,because I was like if he starts,
I need to go.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:13:35):
Yeah, if he starts doing something crazy, I got to
go.

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
I think you need to hit him with a little comedic
relief.
Take a little edge off thesituation.
Maybe hit him with a yell.
Take a number two with extrafries.
You know something?

Speaker 4 (01:13:46):
Something just to lighten the mood, probably would
have shot me, then you mustwork for Jimmy Johns Because you
freaky fast.

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
Yeah.
So anyways, moral of the story,you know, don't shoot people If
you don't have to.
Kanye still hates Jews and iskind of doubling down on it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:06):
He's tripling.
Actually, family channels arefucked up.

Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
They are fucked up.

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
Especially if you're Mormon.

Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
We're going to see some laws created about them in
the future.

Speaker 1 (01:14:14):
I'm sure.

Speaker 4 (01:14:17):
See you later.

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