How To Be Fearless and Build an Empire - Alycea Ohl

What if chronic illness became your secret superpower rather than your downfall? For Alycea Ohl, spending over $300,000 on medical treatments wasn't the end of her story—it was the catalyst that transformed her from corporate employee to globe-trotting entrepreneur.

From her early days as an All-American lacrosse player to becoming a government contractor selling aerospace and defense equipment, Alycea's path seemed traditional. But when health challenges struck, she faced a critical decision: continue the security of corporate America or build something that offered both financial freedom and location independence.

Whether you're struggling with health challenges, feeling trapped in your career, or simply seeking inspiration to take that next bold step, Alycea's story will remind you that your greatest obstacles often become your most powerful motivators.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
I spent like over $300,000 on just my health.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
What made you transition from like your shoes?
How'd you go from your shoes tolike credit repair?

Speaker 1 (00:08):
I started getting really interested in it because
it was super empowering to helppeople, Especially like people
would just come out of nowhereand they would say I know you
from Instagram from like fiveyears ago, but we never met.
But I have like a 500 creditscore, I've got kids and I can't
even qualify to get anapartment right now.

(00:28):
And I was like, oh, I want tohelp these people, Because you
know that's an even craziercalling when you're really like
helping.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Yeah, changing lives for real.
Yeah, changing lives.
So what would you tell?
Like a young version ofyourself or like a young female
college student?
What would you say?

Speaker 1 (00:46):
so you just have to one.
Not of course you hear this allthe time but don't be afraid to
fail and just work hard.
You know when you get.
When you do fail and you takelosses um, you know, scare money
don't make no money, right.
So take the losses and justlike, not necessarily let go of
them, but you got to learn fromthem and really just make sure

(01:08):
it doesn't happen again listeny'all back on the podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
we got another amazing episode, but on this one
specifically, I got this guestwho flew all the way from
Houston and we've been wantingto get her on the podcast, I
would say, for at least about amonth or so, and her and I have
been going back and forth on theDM, back and forth on the text.
We actually have a mutualfriend as well that has been
trying to get us together, Iwould say, and we're finally

(01:44):
here.
But this is the thing.
She has a lot of information togive you guys.
Serial entrepreneur and someonethat I feel like you guys can
learn a lot from right.
So on the Pursuit Podcast, weconnect with six, seven,
eight-figure entrepreneurs.
I bring them to you so they canbreak down exactly what they do
, so they can help you changeyour life a lot faster.
So, with that said, on today'sepisode we got alicia, oh all

(02:07):
right was that better?
thank you, yes, that was betteryep all right, cool, cool, cool,
um.
So first off, thanks for beinghere thank you for having me
yeah, you look amazing, thankyou, yeah, yeah, uh, how was the
commute to uh florida?
It was good yeah, quick flight,you fly delta american you fly
to american, yes, okay, okay,how was that?

Speaker 1 (02:28):
it was good yeah well , it wasn't too bad yeah, yeah,
I like american, it's a good.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah, dude okay, so you fly, so you fly a lot.
You, you're always on and off aplane, um I'm always bored.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
How does that feel?

Speaker 2 (02:43):
because, because for me I'll give an example.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
You do too right.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah, but I feel like there got to be a faster way.
It'd be too slow, you think.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
With the planes.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah, six hours, let's say you're going from here
to LA.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Six hours is like yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
I just see I've taken some flights.
What's the longest flightyou've ever been?

Speaker 2 (03:04):
on Thailand, 13 hours .

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Yeah, thailand, I think it was 13 hours.
Bangkok.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
No, I went to Phuket.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
But you had a flight into Bangkok first, right, the
big city.
I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
I think we flew into China and then from China to
Phuket.
I went for a wedding.
It was all white.
It was on a floating.
It was like on this floatingplatform in the ocean.
It was fire.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
I look good too.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
That's crazy.
That's a long for a wedding.
Who was it?
Was it a friend?

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Yeah it was a friend of mine.
We've been friends since weboth had brands in fashion.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
And we just he was like my best friend in fashion
and I met, you know, obviouslymet his wife when they got
married.
And then he had his he'sVietnamese, so we had like his
big wedding in the States andthen he had like an intimate for
people Nice.
So we had like 80 people thatwent to the destination wedding
Nice.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
Yeah, that's a long flight.
My friend, she and I are goingto go to Bali soon and I've been
there, but if you know, you'vebeen on that side of the world.
It takes so long to get all theway over there, excuse me.
So, um, she asked me like girls, how long is?
Like 10, 15?
And I'm like no, it's gonna,it's gonna be a while.
We got to get to bangkok firstand then from there go down to

(04:15):
jakarta and bali and all that.
But yeah, just getting to thatside, to thailand, it takes
forever so you're like, soyou're like a world citizen for
real, honestly.
Honestly, this is something thatwas kind of new this year.
So this year I went to 30different countries and I went
to a lot of them multiple timeslike different visits and stuff.

(04:35):
I went to Dubai probably, Ithink, four times.
I was in Spain.
I like Spain a lot, so I'm kindof looking back on it like man.
It was my first year as afull-on entrepreneur.
I can do what I want.
My businesses that I might'vebeen running on the side before
are just going smoothly.

(04:56):
So it was addictive, honestly,traveling out there and then you
get to Europe and there's justso much to see asia.
I like asia even more so, sonormally, no, that was.
This was like a new alicia thisyear you know I got to see the
world and it honestly it feelslike this year was like four

(05:17):
years long so do you feel likethis is who you are, or was that
just last year?

Speaker 2 (05:21):
like, are you?

Speaker 1 (05:22):
no, I think yeah, I don't think it's gonna go away
now.
You know, I got a whole anotherlist of countries I need to hit
this year and I don't know ifI'll hit like another 30.
But you know, once you startseeing all that stuff, it's like
man, you have the freedom andyou can work from you know your
phone.
My partner calls it Wi-Fi money.
So you know, once you got thatWi-Fi money, you're on the

(05:44):
flights and I get a ton of workdone on flights and airports.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
So I don't want to glaze over that, because you
said 30 countries in 12 months.
Yeah, and in some of thesecountries you've been multiple
times.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Probably half of them .

Speaker 2 (05:58):
Right Multiple times.
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But you've been to 40, 40, no 30different countries.

(06:39):
You've been to 30 differentcountries, so let's talk about
that a little bit did.
Did you ever feel like what wasthe first time you from New
York originally?
So what was the first time youlike moving out of your city,
living in a different place?
And then, when you moved to adifferent place, like what did
you feel being in a newenvironment?

Speaker 1 (06:58):
yeah, that's a good question.
So, um, also with the statesI've been to I think 40, 40 out
of the 50 states, so yeah, yougot 12.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
What 12 months ago, 10 months ago?
You got 10 months ago on twoterritories yeah, 10 more.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yep, exactly, I've been in puerto rico and so, but,
um, yeah, so first of all withthe, what were we talking about
before?

Speaker 2 (07:20):
when you, when you relocated to a new spot, lived
in a new spot.
What was that like?

Speaker 1 (07:24):
before, when you, when you relocated to a new spot
, lived in a new spot.
What was that like?
So, yeah, so, first of all,with what you said, like, um, I
went to, actually went to schoolin tennessee, um, so I was in
new york pretty much my wholelife.
It's kind of crazy.
I've been everywhere, but I'velived all over east coast, so,
like pittsburgh, um, all mypeople are philly jersey, new
york.
You know charlotte I was incharlotte last seven, almost
eight years, but I actually wasborn in Oklahoma and everyone's

(07:48):
like what, I would have neverguessed that right, my dad was
in the army and so they had meon a military base.
My dad is from Pittsburgh and,yeah, I mean, they just they had
me.
My parents had me down there,my mom's from Brooklyn, so she,
you know, hated Oklahoma butthey had me down there, and
like's from Brooklyn, so shehated Oklahoma but they had me
down there.
I think two weeks later is whenthey moved me to New York.

(08:09):
I never went back to Oklahomauntil recently.
So it's random, I was actuallyfun fact born in Oklahoma, but
my whole life I lived in NewYork.
I played lacrosse, I wasAll-American.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
I'm swinging.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
I was actually going to Fresno State and.
I tore my ACL.
Of course, at that time we'rein high school, so something
like that happens to you.
You think the world's over,you're so upset.
So I lost my scholarship toFresno State, ended up going to
Juco and up in New York and thenfinally made it out of the
state, went down to Tennesseeand then I just never went back.

(08:45):
So it's been 10 years 11 yearssince I graduated in 2014.
So yeah, 11 years since I leftNew York.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
Were you ever afraid to move around, or did it
already feel comfortable?

Speaker 1 (08:58):
to you, Honestly no.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Because it kind of cripples people.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
Yeah, honestly, from a young age I was just always
independent.
I was just always prettyfearless, which I've definitely
had my times where I've learnedfrom mistakes.
You got to watch, you got tomove certain ways.
But, yeah, I moved down toTennessee and, I'll be honest,
at the time I had a longdistance relationship.

(09:22):
We were together Again, I washappy in love like five years
long.
Right, my Juco boyfriend at thetime and I went to Tennessee.
I was far from him, far from myfamily.
Tennessee was.
I was in the middle of nowherein Tennessee.
So it was very different really, night and day compared to
where I'm from.
And, yeah, at first I wasactually like sick, like it

(09:47):
actually made me feel I was likeoh, but then you know, you get
used to it.
And then I started eating theBojangles, the Bojangles yeah.
And then, you know, moved toCharlotte and I just, I fell in
love.
I'll be honest, tennesseewasn't my favorite place, but
you know, I graduated, got mydegree and everything my
favorite place.
But I graduated, got my degreeand everything.
I worked for the governmentWhile that's where I traveled

(10:08):
around the country.
I was selling missiles andactually, if you've heard of an
F-35 or F-16, I was sellinggovernment life sciences and
aerospace and defense equipmentdirectly to the government, so
it was like a governmentcontract.
Yeah, so it was basically agovernment contract.
Yeah, so it was basicallygovernment sales um, and I sold
very technical products likeoscilloscopes, signal analyzers,

(10:31):
who's buying that?
Just like governments buying ityep so like united states
government yeah, but I alsoworked with our allies, so I
would sell stuff to japan, italy, um a lot of our allies as well
.
So if you've, if you've seenthe movie War, Dogs you've seen
that.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
It's.
Obviously this was legal and itwas very different.
But if you actually listen towhat they say in the movie, if
you get a chance to watch themovie, they're talking about
small business and how thegovernment has to do so much
with small business.
And so there's a lot of goodfacts in there.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah, I would say if y'all watching this right now,
y'all should definitely look upSAMgov.
You can get a governmentcontract.
We have my guy GovernmentCheese on here.
Almost a year ago we did a parttwo as well, but that episode
he breaks down exactly how youcan get into government
contracting and anyone can get agovernment contract.
So y'all should definitely goto sandgov and just kind of poke

(11:27):
around.
Um, it can literally make you afive figure, six figure, seven
figure, you know, entrepreneurpotentially, depending on what
realm of the government, if it'sproduct services or if you're
middleman in it or whatever itis.
But I would check that out.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
So that's pretty dope yeah, yeah, I mean I was I.
I had a very fast like careerpath.
I was selling everything likesolar panels, all these
technical products.
I ended up selling cars and Iwas only like 17.
So I was in college, stillselling cars, playing lacrosse,

(11:59):
doing all that kind of stuff,and I was like a tutor.
I was an RA but again, I had along distance relationship.
I never went out.
I don't think I went out oncein college.
So now here I am traveling and,like you know, really living and
a lot of people are like likepeople get that kind of out of
their system in college.
You know going and doing things.
But I really was just like tomyself, like about you know

(12:22):
making money and stuff incollege.
So after the car sales it'skind of a funny story, long
story short the um, my boss, thevp of sales at this company,
with the government right, hehad come to the car lot and
recruited me.
He was just like look, youdon't want to be selling cars
forever, do you?
And I was like I mean, Iactually really like it, like it

(12:44):
was really fun.
And he was like you know, youcan come work for me, you can be
making like like pretty muchsix figures.
You know, 18 years old, I wasstill in college and I wasn't 18
.
I was probably 20.
Yeah, because I graduatedcollege when I was 20.
I wasn't even 21 yet.
So, yeah yeah, long story short, he came recruiting me, told me

(13:04):
you're going to be flyingeverywhere and I said, well, I
have a full ride for lacrosse.
I mean, that's how I'm payingfor school.
And he was like you're notgoing to care about that, Don't
even worry.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
He was prophesizing over you, yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
And he gave me really great advice because, fast
forward, I was unhappy.
I felt like I was stuck inTennessee.
I signed a contract with themthat they were going to move me
to DC and you know I was goingto be making great money, you
know, moving up in this company.
And he sat me down one day andwas like we need you out here

(13:40):
for another year.
And it was like east tennessee,you know, we're not talking
about nashville, I've never beento nashville way east tennessee
.
And um one day he said, uh, Idon't know if I can say this on
the podcast.
So I don't know, this is likeprivate information, but
basically he he told me I shouldprobably leave if, because I'm
not happy.

(14:01):
He said look, alicia, I knowyou want to thrive, you want to
be.
You know it's as I can't livein tennessee anymore.
And he said look, alicia, Iknow you want to thrive, you
want to be.
You know I can't live inTennessee anymore.
And so he said I'll tell youwhat I'll give you.
I'll say it was a very goodseverance package and it was
very like, very nice of them.
And so basically he just saidI'll give you this money If you

(14:24):
go to Charlotte.
I'm telling you you're going tothrive.
There's young entrepreneurseverywhere.
He kept calling them like young, whatever it was.
He was like there's youngprofessionals in Charlotte.
It's a booming city, and I wentthere and I was super happy
with it.
So I started working for acompany that I always wanted to

(14:44):
work at when I was young, and Iwas there for like eight years.
It like flew by.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
So how did you end up transitioning to like doing
your own thing?
Because at this time you'relike working for companies.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
Yeah, that's a good question.
Back to like the first questiontoo.
Yeah, Tennessee was scary forme.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
So I knew I wanted.
I know I thrive in biggercities full of people that are
so it was scary because it wassmall and just out the way it
was small.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
I felt so isolated.
I was in the middle of nowhere.
I felt very lonely.
I actually prayed one night.
I remember I was just prayinglike God, I don't know where it
is or what's your path like,whatever your path for me is,
but get me out of here, please,help me to.

(15:33):
And of course, you got to makethose moves on yourself too.
So Rob my manager I guess VP ofsales he sat me down the next
day and when he said, look, I'llgive you all this, I want
what's best for you.
I was like bet and I left.
I'll give you all this, I wantwhat's best for you.
I was like bet and I left.
So, but yeah, to transition outof it, I worked for a really,
really great company, like Isaid, for eight years.

(15:54):
I mean they were awesome.
I was, I was doing sales,engineering, like lots of
business development with them,and it's a very technical
company.
I was.
I was really lucky to reallyget in there, because I actually
don't have an engineeringdegree and they teach you, kind
of, how to be an engineer.
So you're learning aboutnetwork engineering, it
infrastructure, data centers,all the telecommunications that

(16:18):
build up for Wi-Fi to be enabled.
So I had a really cool job.
I was going to like sportsstadiums Denver Broncos stadium,
the Atlanta Hawks, atlantaFalcons and I was actually
working with the IT departmentto design the infrastructure so
to allow for, like I said, goodwifi.

(16:38):
Basically to keep it simple.
So hospitals, universities,stadiums, hotels I was going to
all these like very cool places.
I was in Vegas all the time and, yeah, just helping you know
the hotels and all of them tobasically like build out the
infrastructure.
So I mean it was a company thattook care of me, great benefits

(17:00):
.
They had like private jets.
So I used to be, you know,living my best life, flying on
private jets and like, well, I'msuper young and I'm able to to
work for this company.
And I actually got sick.
I got really sick like fouryears ago in Charlotte.
Basically, I had gotten thischronic illness and I a lot of

(17:21):
people don't know this about mebecause you would never- like
Come on, let's get it.
Yeah, I was going to say Get onthe podcast illness and I a lot
of people don't know this aboutme because you, you would never
like, come on, let's get it.
Yeah, I was gonna say Iprobably normally I wouldn't be
talking about this in public,but, um, yeah, you would never
tell, like you could never tellfrom my instagram.
But, um, I actually got, youknow, really sick and I deal
with this, um, chronic illnessand I was spending.
I spent like over $300,000 onjust my health.

(17:44):
Yeah, I mean I woke up in painand I was in pain every day for
I mean, still now I am.
So it's like that's something Ideal with.
That, again, people don'treally know.
So you still deal with that.
Yep, I've seen doctors.
That's one reason why I travelthe world.

(18:04):
I've seen doctors all over.
Reason why I travel the world.
I've seen doctors all over.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
I have doctors in dubai, germany you want to share
what it is or not um, it's,it's very um, it's like very
rare, but it's similar to lupushow do you so lupus?
How?
What triggers it?
Like, what, like when would youget like a?

Speaker 1 (18:22):
um alcohol I actually don't drink.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
I don't drink alcohol because yeah, but everyone's
going crazy on a pot earlier,okay, um no I have a little sip
every now and then.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
Yeah, he said it was natural so I'll try it.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
But um so alcohol, what else would trigger?

Speaker 1 (18:38):
um, like a lot of like sauce, like hot sauce, like
spicy seasons and stuff, but um, but yeah, I just I have to be
very careful and I spent so muchmoney on that.
But I was working this nine tofive.
I was making pretty good money,like I was making six figures.
But um, I started buying housesand of course, now you got, I

(18:59):
mean I pay like 10,000 a monthin mortggages plus to maintain
my houses and the bills, butanyway.
So with this, basically I waslike man, I'm having to throw
$60,000, $70,000 into this.
$10,000 into medicine wasexpensive, so I started my shoe
company and that's when Istarted.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
So the shoe company was the first one.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Mm-hmm Yep.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
And, with my sneaker company, shout out to anybody
that's ever bought a shoe fromme because I mean, y'all really
mean a lot to me.
Like I said, it's much deeper,it kind of gets into like my
health and it's my shoe company.
I'm very passionate about thatbecause, again, that's really
what I started selling shoes.
I made crazy money like what Iwas making was way more than I

(19:51):
ever dreamed in, like myengineering job so breakdown a
shoe company.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
For those that may not be following you, but I mean
, if you're on the instagram,you'll see that you'd be posting
shoes pretty consistently inthe story yeah, you're getting
these drops, you get access toshoes like, so to let her know a
little bit about that yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
So I have factory connections.
Um, we get, we get super greatdeals.
You know, direct straight tothe factory.
I'm talking to them every day,all day.
You know placing orders and, um, my, my thing is, if you're my
customer, you know these shoesmight be going for 1500 or you
know two thousand dollars pluswhatever it is.
I always, always just selleverything for the low, so it's

(20:28):
like I will always be anybody'sdeal.
So any shoe store, stockx andGo, obviously, all the hype
stuff.
So Travis Scott's they're myfavorite Off-White's Designers,
stuff like that.
So, yeah, I mean I was reallyblessed to be connected to a lot
of um athletes and then theywould spread the word to their

(20:49):
teams and I mean some of themwere in college.
So after college, the wholefootball team, you know a lot of
them go pro.
Now they're spreading it totheir um.
You know the nfl teams nowthey're transferring, they're
getting traded and stuff andthen, before I knew it, I was
selling to every NFL, nba, mlbteam, college teams.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
So you're basically just sitting there like they're
placing orders, but you see lots.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
Yeah, and like a lot of them have like cousins and
stuff, like some of my one of myfavorite customers.
He's got like he's at thePatriots and then his cousin
played for the Steelers and theyhad another cousin of the
Panthers and stuff, and so theya lot of people would jump
around and then, like I saidbefore I knew it, they were like
, hey, you know she could dothis and that.

(21:34):
Well, now obviously I fixedcredit credit repairs, my, my
big thing, and business funding.
So a lot of these guys I meanthey've got, um, you know,
obviously they've got, they wantto invest and they want to do
different things, but maybethere's something holding them
back on their credit.
We actually remove child support.
That was one big thing.

(21:55):
So someone might have 100K inchild support or a repo or you
know whatever had happened inthe past.
So we really get them rightwith the credit.
And then next thing you knowthey're on a business funding.
We're getting them like 200plus K in business funding.
So I've been very, very blessedbecause all of these

(22:16):
connections really came fromshoes.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
What made you transition from like the shoes?
How'd you go from shoes to likecredit repair?

Speaker 1 (22:23):
Great question.
So, yeah, something about me.
I I've always like, no matterwhat, I've always had multiple.
I get bored really easily.
But also, you know, it's for um, what?
What did you call earlier aserial entrepreneur?
I mean you, you gotta have yourmind on different things.
Um, you know, and differentclients, clients will tap in

(22:44):
with you on different businessesas long as you do good business
right.
So basically what happened wasI was selling shoes.
I made a ton of money and I wasstill.
You know, I had a good job.
Like I said, I was without jobfor a long time.
I was selling solar panels onthe side.
My boss at my company was likeI really missed door-to-door.

(23:06):
I used to do door-to-door salesand I loved it.
That was probably my favoritething.
I just love meeting strangers,talking to people and just
selling them on the spot andit's challenging.
So it was very fun.
It was like a game for me.
So, for fun, I would go andsell solar panels.

(23:26):
So I was doing that.
And then, yeah, like I said,eventually it was clear that
selling shoes was profitable, soI started buying houses.
Whenever I would buy a house, Iwould move into it and do the
house hacking Y'all probablyhear it all the time from real
estate people.
You move in friends, move in,cool.
Then you move out.

(23:47):
I was paying my tenants like$300 to $700 plus to go find
another tenant right To have aroommate, which they loved it
because they're going to beliving with them anyway.
So you buy a house right, moveinto it, get some people in Live
there, go buy another house,house hack.
And so I started doing that.

(24:08):
But the thing is I was living,you know I was.
I wanted to live in nice places.
So I'm buying like five$600,000 houses and before I
knew it, the houses when theywould sit vacant.
I've had houses sit for seven,eight months vacant.
I mean that's no fun, right Tobe paying a mortgage again.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
God bless the shoes.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
And so basically, yeah, when I was filling in with
tenants, I figured you knowwhat I can make all this money
on Airbnb and everybody wants todo Airbnb.
Right, if you haven't done itand you're kind of like, oh,
real estate, everybody's askingme every day.
I swear I probably get like fiveDMs a day about you know, help

(24:50):
me with my Airbnb and I mentorpeople and I am doing a course
on that soon.
So, yeah, with Airbnb, Istarted running those and I try
to make them different.
So I have like a Monopolythemed house because charlotte
is actually the banking capital.
So, like one of my houses, it'sright by the panthers stadium,

(25:11):
um, that's run as a monopolythemed airbnb, but a lot of them
um, again, a lot of my tenantsare actually pro athletes that
you know play for, like thePanthers, the Hornets, and so I
started again.
Like, once you do good businessand you network and people know
you, I think that it definitelykind of like trickles.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
When did you realize that, like people, needed to
help with the credit and thenlike what made?

Speaker 1 (25:36):
you.
Oh yeah, I'm sorry With thecredit.
So so, long story short, I geta call again.
My nine to five was always likemy and like kind of like my
platform that I felt protectedwith Right and it's it is hard
from.
I don't know if you've donethat yet.
Where you're in a nine to fiveand you, you take the risk,

(25:57):
Right, you quit.
Recruited by another company,it was a Swedish fiber optic
manufacturer.
They called me one day,headhunter called me and by that
time I'm doing real estate, I'mdoing all these things and I'm
like I want to move to Texas.
I'm bored of Charlotte.
I've been in Charlotte likeeight years and then before that

(26:18):
I was just all over that areaalready.
So Headhunter calls me.
He's like look, I have a jobfor you.
You're going to be making likedouble.
You're going to be making likecrazy good money.
You're going to be moving up.
And they promised all thesethings, right.
And then he says and we canmove you wherever.
So Houston, dallas, phoenix,like you name it.

(26:40):
You, you're good, we want you.
And so I started talking to them, interviewed, it was a full
remote position.
So, long story short, I endedup moving to Houston with them.
I get there and I'm likeliterally in trenches, like
digging in these big like claytrenches.
I got my Tims on and stuff andwe're like I'm teaching them how

(27:03):
to deploy the fiber underground.
And basically that's what I did.
I was deploying the AT&T fiber,like fiber to the home, to all
these new neighborhoods acrossall of Texas.
So I'm driving to, like youknow, these areas in the middle
of nowhere and you know the heatis bad in Texas.
So it's like July you know intrenches, yeah, Teaching people.

(27:26):
I know Spanish a little bit, butit was like sometimes we had to
have like real translators,because it's like hot as hell
and we're in these trenches andI'm like pass me this and do.
That wasn't really for me.
And I ended up meeting the CEOAcademy guys, right, and one of

(27:52):
the girls she's no longer therebut she had hit me up and said,
like look, you're a realentrepreneur.
I see you do real estate, I seeyou sell shoes.
It looks like or something.
Why don't you come, Like I havean opportunity for you, I have
an opportunity.
And I was like I got all thisgoing on with my I'm an engineer
, I'm doing this job.
That was literally crazy.

(28:13):
I was not sleeping, I wasworking super late hours and I
think I was kind of underpaid,for, even though you can make
crazy money and still be likeman, this is really taking up my
life.
I'm not even happy?

Speaker 2 (28:30):
No, it's facts.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
So she hit me up.
I started calling in toJarrell's calls and everyone and
I'm listening and yeah, I mean,I don't know, I just quit.
I left, took the leap of faith.
I knew that I had money comingthrough with my Airbnb business.
I was pretty confident that Iwould be all right.

(28:52):
Shoes was very, very good andvery lucrative for me.
So that's when I startedtraveling and literally just I
said I'm going to just take abreak from like all this and,
you know, leave the job.
Maybe I might end up sellingcredit repair on the side, but
I'm going to travel and I wasworking on getting my real
estate license in Texas, so Istarted doing all the real

(29:16):
estate, like the online training.
And I lived in Hungary for acouple months Budapest so I was
living over there, going to likeVienna and exploring Spain and
Italy and France and all theseplaces, and my credit repair
just took off.
Like I started getting reallyinterested in it because it was

(29:37):
super empowering to help people,especially like people would
just come out of nowhere andthey would say, hey, I know you
from Instagram from like fiveyears ago, but we never met.
But I have like a 500 creditscore, I've got kids and I can't
even qualify to get anapartment right now.
And I was like, oh, I want tohelp these people because you

(29:57):
know that's an even craziercalling when you're really like
helping Changing lives for real,yeah changing lives, calling
when you're really like helpingchanging lives, yeah, changing
lives.
So so that, to answer yourquestion, it was like I had a
weird transition to where I was.
I was leaving the nine to fiveworld.
I probably I was pretty sure Iwas gonna like probably go back
and get an engineering job again, but I was like let me just

(30:19):
relax and travel right now.
And then the credit kind of Icame across that I started
meeting credit gurus in Houstonand everywhere and you know,
watching their reels andwatching even them on podcasts
and stuff to explain like thepower and the loopholes of what
we have.
And I started thinking, man,like as an American, you can't.

(30:42):
Credit is very interesting.
You can't get what we haveanywhere.
Yeah, you go to Dubai if youwant to rent an apartment, you
have to pay them 12 months upstraight.
So if your rent's, you know,2000 US, which is low, you're
coming out like at least 24bands plus deposits and stuff.

(31:02):
So they really get their money.
You might as well buy a housefor that over there.
It's cheap over there, it's likeit's going to be about the same
Over here.
You can buy everything offcredit and that's why you know,
with our real estate Americansin real estate I mean, we can do
business funding, we can flip,we can wholesale.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
We can do so many different things that are so
hard in different areas of theworld.
So there's three things thatthat you mentioned I think
really interesting.
Um, and I so not even that youmentioned them, but you actually
did them.
So number one is like you moveinto multiple places, people are
afraid of that.
They're not, they're afraid ofchange.
It takes people a lot to thinkabout.
Oh, I want to move to the city.
I got to bring all my stuff, myfriends, my family, I don't

(31:53):
know nobody.
But it sounds like you, you dothat with ease, right?
And then, secondly, like you,quit a corporate job.
I literally just got a textfrom a friend today.
He was like I could read thetext right.
He hit me with this text, right.
He said, let me find itactually.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
He says wait, wait, wait.
Is this it right here?
Yeah, he's like yo.
How do you?
Is this it right here?
Yeah, he's like yo.
How do you approach makingdecisions career wise?
I've been with my company for16 years.
I'm kind of run down.
I've gotten everything I need,um that I think I can, from them

(32:35):
, but I'm afraid to do my ownthing.
You know, what I'm saying.
So like people are literallyafraid.
But then, like you quit acorporate job that sounded like
it was making you some goodmoney, you go off and do
something else, right, and thensales.
You know how many people areafraid of sales.
They just have this wholepreconceived notion like oh my

(32:56):
God, sales.
I want to start a company, butI don't want to sell my stuff
because I'm afraid of sales.
Sure you know what I'm saying?
Sure, but those three, I'mgoing to call them skill sets.
Like the moving, the movingaround is a skill set, right,
okay, door to doors isterrifying.
Terrifying To you, it's fun.
Yeah, it's like for me but, Ialso like I don't know so like,

(33:18):
so, like the moving, uh, youknow, not being afraid to quit
or do something different.
And then the selling, like didyou learn these things?
Or you feel like that's part ofyour personality, you're just
not fearful, so you just kind oflike, went with it I think, um,
yeah, I'm pretty bold.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
I moved out of my parents house when I was like 16
and I just ever since then.
Obviously, like I said, I'velearned in so many occasions
that you have to move very smart.
So I, like, I know when thereare risks.
I know certain countries Idon't want to you know
personally, I know everybodyloves Colombia.

(33:56):
I personally I don't even reallylike to visit a lot of places
with the cartel and stuff,because I've had some crazy
experiences.
I got robbed by the cartel,they took everything, yeah.
So certain times where I'vevisited places, I'm not going to
say everything went smoothly,but now it's like I mean I don't

(34:16):
fear anywhere in the worldreally, because I've been
everywhere.
And it's kind of funny that yousay that my.
So, like I said, my dad is fromPittsburgh.
Um, my grandpa, his father, wasin the army so he went to
Germany and stuff.
But he's like you, you just behanging out in the Middle East
like you think like that's coolor something, and I'm like the

(34:36):
Middle East is where it's atlike.
Qatar, like you know, Doha isreally nice Dubai I go on and on
about Dubai and they're likebecause they've been to Iraq and
Afghanistan.
My dad served and stuff, and sowe.
I think that in America wethink of like the Middle East as
we see like at least me, I mean.
Growing up, I was like six,seven years old and my dad was

(34:58):
over there.
All we saw were, you know,bombs over baghdad and it's like
um, the the middle east isactually very safe like there's.
There's a lot of um places whereI feel way more safe than
houston and um yeah, america'skind of crazy yeah, america,
america can be crazy.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
Issue is we're just numb to it because we live here
yeah there's propaganda, butit's like think about this.
So I thought about this theother day.
New year's was like a highright, so the whole country
excited new year's.
You have fire, fireworks, nomatter where you are in the
country, you're excited.
Literally the next day there'sthere's a bombing, like the

(35:36):
tesla, the tesla car you knowI'm saying in front of trump
plaza kind of fire bomb yeah,and then in um.
Where was it new orleans?
you know, saying there was ashooting.
It's like lit, like literally.
You could be happy for 10minutes, the whole country, and
then you never know something.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
Yeah, and that's in america, we're just so used to
it yeah, I mean I've, and I so,as a as a investor, I buy in
gentrified areas.
Another thing my family is likewait, you said what you got
shootings every day.
And it's like to me that'snothing because I'm so used to,
but that's crazy I will say I'mI don't want to say I'm fearless

(36:14):
because you know, but yeah, Imean I'll take a risk, I'll move
places because I trust that Ican adjust.
And, um, you know, I also I goto like a lot of my peers and
like a lot, like a lot of thepeople we're connected with and
stuff.
Like you might see, I might hityou sometime.
Hey, I know you're in miami.
What do you think of this orsomething?
So I mean, I definitely use myum my yeah as a resource.

(36:39):
But yeah, I mean sales.
I mean that never scared me.
I always tried to be the bestand do my best whenever I was
selling a product.
So, like I said, I used to dodoor-to-door.
I was like the number oneVerizon sales rep in the nation
and that was like for every yearthat I was doing internships.

(37:00):
And every year I would startselling again, and every year I
was, I was starting something,and they're like oh, she back.
And so so, yeah, like variety,like selling like phones and
stuff, internet tv.
I always try to be like at thetop.
You know how there's alwaysrankings.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
Yeah, I used to uh work at sprint oh, did you wow?

Speaker 1 (37:16):
is sprint around still.
No, no, no, I forgot about that, no, no sprint.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
So sprint by nextel and then, I think, 18t by sprint
okay or or team over one ofthem.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
I used to like sprint .
I always had sprint when Ilived in tennessee yeah, sprint
got the first.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
They got the first uh flip phone that I had a camera
oh, okay, okay, yeah, it waslike oh wow y'all, there's a
camera in this joint technologyis crazy as it's come.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
But so, to answer your question, I mean, yeah,
sales has never scared me.
Honestly, I've donedoor-to-door, where you walk up
to the door and they got like agun and it's like whoa, and so
I've seen, like some, I'vedefinitely been put in some
crazy situations.
I had a very, very aggressivetenant recently and I had to I

(38:08):
sort of had to evict him.
His lease was, his lease hadended, but he just wasn't
leaving and so I had to fly overand and I'm not going to lie, I
just went by myself, I don't,and that that wasn't smart.
But, I mean, I had a friend thatwent with me.
But I actually spoke to some ofthe people in CEO Academy.
They're like are you crazy?

(38:29):
Like he could have shot you, hecould have done so many things,
and it's like you know what Ididn't even think about that.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
Do you believe in God ?
Yes, okay.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
So then even gone.
Yes, okay, yeah, so like yeah,I got with you, yeah, yeah.
So I I mean I guess like myfaith is part of it.
If I know I'm gonna, because Ido, I plan to live in dubai
maybe one day.
Um, I definitely go out thereand look at real estate a lot.
Um, I believe that if I, youknow, make it out there, if I
don't like it, I'll just comeback.
Yeah, I mean, I will say, hou,houston's not my favorite place,
and so I'm always like, allright, it's not the end of the

(39:03):
world.
I, luckily, I am very, reallyjust blessed to have my
customers and my businessrunning and, like you said, God
to help me to be financiallyfree, because I think that's
what it's all about.
If you don't like yoursituation and you know, just
change it.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
How do you look at business like your business?
Because you have, you got yoursituation.
Then you know, just change it.
How do you look at businesslike your business Because you
have the Airbnb right, you gotcredit, you got funding, you got
your shoes, you know, and yougot other things shaking and
baking, and you traveling a lot.
So how do you look at it?
How do you approach the way youdo business?

Speaker 1 (39:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
And how you do it all .

Speaker 1 (39:41):
I would say across the board, like I said earlier,
um, good business is goodbusiness.
So, um, I used to do likesports betting, like I would
sell my picks and stuff.
And it's funny because I havepeople that it's happening with
credit now and they're like ohgood, like I can trust her, I'm
gonna get my credit fixed.
And I'll ask him, like, have weever met or did someone refer
you?
And they're like I know you don, you don't remember, but years
ago we used to do the sportsbetting stuff and then I bought

(40:04):
a bunch of shoes from you andthen I saw you were doing this
and that, and then here you aredoing credit.
So I think that those are thecoolest customers when they've
really like kind of donebusiness with you throughout
time.
But, yeah, I would say managingit and like how do you kind of

(40:25):
handle it?
I literally just kind of takethings as they come.
Um, I prioritize, likeobviously, like the credit is
important it's you know people'slives and people's privacy and
it's a very sensitive topic.
So credit um is going to be verydifferent than just selling a
shoe.
The shoe is like the sales overwith and I tell my people I

(40:46):
actually have affiliates thatwork under me and I I supply
them yeah and I tell them allthe time.
I mean, if y'all want to beaffiliates for credit, that's
cool too.
Just remember, it's a longerlife cycle.
So I mean you might havesomeone get some things removed
and then they like you justdon't know.
With credit there's so manyvariables.
A shoe is a shoe right.

(41:08):
Airbnb once you really have itdown.
When someone comes in, throws aparty, trashes the house, it's
like you don't fear that becauseyou know, you already know the
process of how you're goinggonna go through with the
insurance that Airbnb provides.
So it's like Airbnb, I guess Iwould say.
A big portion of my operatingcosts for everything are, like I

(41:31):
said, the rents every month,right, or the mortgages.
So my tenants take precedentover, like my tenants, my credit
repair clients and then my shoeclients, no matter what, to me,
a client is a client and Igotta do good business because
who knows they could like.
Like I said, I have a cousin orsomeone that needs a spot to
rent for a year and that's areally you know, it's a good

(41:53):
quality tenant.
In my opinion, the hardest partof real estate is getting good
tenants yeah, no, I would saythat that's something I fear
yeah, getting a good tenant

Speaker 2 (42:03):
you know, yeah, getting a good tenant.
I remember I had a bad one at asection 8 property really, so I
was like three.
I was like two for three.
I had two good ones.
That last one was crazy.
It was a brand new spot.
It's a brand new spot.
It was a brand new spot.
Brand new kitchen, brand newbathroom, immaculate clean.
I had a victim, yo.

(42:25):
The bathroom was a whole nothercolor.
The kitchen was a whole nothercolor.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
They painted it.
No like just how theymaintained it.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
And then I had to go in there one time and the
bathroom smelled crazy.
I just didn't know what wasgoing on there.
But so I can understand badtenants.
Bad tenant yeah, yeah and I hadan airbnb in boston, me and my
boy.
We had two airbnbs and, again,like it'd be a one-off, we had
one, one visitor.
They went crazy in there.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
I was like, I was like, I was like what I've had
cleaners, tell me because youknow, I don't live in Charlotte
anymore and my poor cleaner.
One time she texted me and shewas like I can't even do this
one, you're going to have tocome out here for this, and I
had to fly out there.

(43:17):
It happens sometimes, but yeah,I've had some crazy Airbnb ones
too.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
So what about your mindset?
So what are some of the thingsthat help you grow?

Speaker 1 (43:29):
Yeah, what do you?

Speaker 2 (43:30):
focus on Do you read?

Speaker 1 (43:32):
Do you have?

Speaker 2 (43:33):
affirmations.
What do you do?
Because very inspiring, forsure, you got a lot going on.
You're someone that it seemslike you want to continue to
progress, sounds like you havereally good core values.
So, like, how do you get up foryou?
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
For sure that's a good question too.
So first of all, I love music,so listen to music.
I love like simple things,right, like cooking.
I go to the gym.
I used to be an athlete, sosometimes it's kind of funny.
If people are in Houston at mygym they would laugh at me if

(44:13):
they heard me say this.
Everyone always sees me on theStairmaster for like an hour or
two.
You know what it is.
I'm going through all my withmy phones and going through and
just making sure all my clientsare taken care of, because I had
to get a whole separate phonebecause the other one was just.
I mean, I might've had like atleast 300 messages coming

(44:33):
through daily and that's likemaybe even on the low side, like
people just kind of coming outof every direction.
like you said, you got to manageand prioritize yeah and so I
always tell people just call meif for some reason I didn't get
to your message, and it's ofcourse if it's immediate.
But um, so I that's the firstthing I usually do is to just

(44:55):
make sure that my everything isrunning, to check in with the go
through the all the creditrepairs and stuff.
Honestly, sometimes I'll go onthe stairmaster for like an hour
you just knock it up yeah, andit goes by so fast, like so I
don't know about that.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
I've been on a stairmaster, that joint just now
.
I go by fast for me.
I mean, I don't know, I'm coolwith like 10 minutes on a
stairmaster, I had enough yeah,yeah, but I like I go running
this stuff like I like yeah I'llrun every morning like I.
Obviously I live in miami sothere's like this bridge, so I
run over the venetian bridge.
I do like a mile and a halfevery day yes, like I'll do that

(45:29):
.
I can't be.
My boy had me doing astandmaster um in the morning,
so I used to do it.
I don't do it anymore.
Maybe I should get back todoing it like at least 10
minutes something.
But 10 minutes is a lot for me,understand, master yeah, so an
hour?
I don't even know.
I can't, I can't see it, I'd bebored.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
Yeah, that's probably what it is, and I like to watch
sports, like the last um, withall the football games on yeah.
I know that, like, if I can'tget it on one of my you know
whatever apps on the tvs are athome, um, I'll just be like you
know what I got to get some workdone and I need to go through
those texts.
I need to do everything anywayat the gym, so I'll go like
watch, so I'll be like watchingfootball or whatever on my phone

(46:09):
and then, you know, watchingthe news too on the other TV,
seeing what's going on in theworld, and then, yeah, just kind
of getting through all thetexts.
But yeah, so things I like todo is, like, you know, cook, go
to the gym and then, as far aslike really getting my mind
right, I do read a little bit.
I've got a lot of like salesbooks and books from my mentor,

(46:33):
my old manager at the first nineto five company that I was with
, and so she was a very strong,like powerful saleswoman and, um
, very assertive.
And you know I've always um asa you know, young female,
especially in like a lot of maledominated industries, um, being
like assertive and really likejust going through those books.

(46:55):
That's kind of helped me.
So every once in a while I'llbe like you know what I'm going
to go through that.
So I read those.
It's crazy.
I've never gone on TikTok.
I guess I have one, but I knowa lot of people say that they
learn from TikTok and it's likewith me I really just learned
from calling my mentors andstuff and people.

(47:16):
And I've got a good mentor upin New York my real estate
mentor, and so I hope to flipmore houses.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
Yeah, so you believe in mentorship and coaching and
stuff.
Yeah, so like this year thatmakes sense.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
Yes, this year I really have a lot of more goals
to get rid of the big, like Isaid, the high mortgages and
stuff and start getting cheapstuff, flipping it, reselling or
doing short-term, long-termrental.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
And so, yeah, I talked to my mentors and stuff
quite a bit too so, with all thebusiness you do and all the
people you meet, uh, all thedifferent situations you've been
through and being like, youknow, women in business, what,
what, what's on the other side,like like are dudes approaching
you kind of crazy.
You know what I'm saying.

(48:02):
Like, what's it like being like, what's it like being you.
So I'm being you.
Someone hit you up.
You know I need some shoes, Ineed my car repaired, I need
some funding.
You know, and like, what aresome of the situations you might
run in as a woman in business?

Speaker 1 (48:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
Some of these crazy situations I think you shared
one with me one time, yeah, yeah, so what?
So what's like?
What like you running?

Speaker 1 (48:30):
into crazy situations often yeah, what's it look like
?
Yeah, I'll be honest, even likemy grandparents and stuff.
Again, they'll be like we, welike we worry about you and I'm
like, no, I'm good, like I got agun, I got this and that.
Like Like I'm good and they'relike we, just no one ever knows
where you are.
And I'm like, yeah, and that'show it should be, you know.
So like I don't like peopleknowing like where I am, I try

(49:06):
not to, you know, be too outthere.
Because, yeah, I've definitelyhad a lot of situations of, I
mean, I know a lot of people.
I've lived a lot of places andnow I do business with people
and then they refer me and stuffand again like that's why it's
so important to do good business, because I mean, again, credit
you're, you're really dealingwith people's lives right, like
they're you're you're consultingwith them and they really trust
you and they're also paying youlike my, my services aren't
like super cheap, so I wouldn'tsay like I try to like crack
people on the head, like I dowhat I can to pay my team and

(49:28):
you know, but, um, but yeah, Imean people.
This is like thousands ofdollars and people's lives that
you're you're dealing with.
So, um, that's important.
And as far as like the crazypeople and just running into
people on daily basis is, um, Imean, yeah, you just gotta,
being a female, you gotta, likeI said, just be smart, move

(49:49):
smart.
Um, and yeah, just make sureyou're you're moving smart,
you're you're protected.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
So what's like?
Could you share?
Like one crazy situation oh,with the people yeah, I'll tell
you one.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
So, because I'm like man, there's so many, um, oh,
I've had people because I runout my houses, sometimes too
privately to people, I know, andlike that.
That's another thing.
It's like you know, there is aline where you got you can't mix
like business and then, likeyou know, friends and in
relationships with that, but, um, all right.

(50:25):
So one time this is how Ibought, um, one of it's like my,
my favorite house in charlotteum, I, this guy, he, oh, there's
, there's like different,there's so many.
Now I'm thinking of all theseshoe customers, but shoes, it's
like look, you get which.
You know the way that I am.

(50:45):
It's like you see what you like, you're getting what you see,
you know, I'm very honest, verytransparent and I actually send
out like you know, I'm alwayssending out like contracts for
the credit repair or for shoes.
I send out a disclosure messagethat says you know, this is why
the shoe is so cheap, this isexactly where it comes from and
this is like what it is.
And so, um, I had a guy, random,like they, they drove like a

(51:08):
few hours to Charlotte becausethey really wanted these shoes
and, um, I had, I had sold themsome shoes.
So they knew that I was real.
They knew that the shoes,everything, the check,
everything it was good and theywanted to order more and the
shoes.
I placed the order with thefactory and then the shoes were

(51:29):
shipping.
I placed it with my people andeverything and then the shoes
were on the way but they justcouldn't.
Sometimes people can't justchill out.
You deal with so many greatclients that are super patient
and like just like superthankful they want to wait for
them.
But well, they just didn't likeunderstand that.
That's how it is sometimes.

(51:51):
I mean, you know, I'm not aNike, I don't have like a
factory in my kitchen, it's notthe store.
It's like you pay me and I likeI pay like it's.
I'm really hooking people upright and so, long story short,
there was like that.
And then I had a trainer.
I had a gym trainer inCharlotte and he, um, same type

(52:12):
of thing happened.
He like, he like ruined hisshoes and he tried to go resell
them, like, so he was upset.
And then these um, I'm thinkingof two separate occasions, but
again someone I came out to mycar and I used to drive a Dodge
Charger and everybody knew me,like everybody you know,
charlotte Small said like I hadbright purple headlights, that

(52:35):
idea.
So like I would be on thehighway sometimes and people
would say, oh, I just saw you onthe highway, I'm like, oh, turn
the headlights a differentcolor or something.
Oh, I just saw you on thehighway.
I'm like, oh, turn theheadlights a different color or
something.
And so, anyway, yeah, I walkedup to my car one day and it was
just like they slashed all mytires smashed the windows Over
some shoes.
Yeah, over some People will doanything, they will probably

(52:57):
kill someone over some shoes, Imean yeah, people are crazy, I
mean yeah.
People are crazy.
And that day I went and Ibought my Go ahead.
I literally went to.
I was driving and I was soupset and I'm like man, people
just don't understand, they justcan't be patient.
But I felt like I was, that waslike an attack.

(53:18):
So I went and bought a new cribthe next day I told my roommate
hey, y'all like if I pay youeach 700, if y'all could find a
new tenant, 12 month lease,whatever.
Boom they found her in like anhour and I was like, yep, and I
paid them and I went and Ibought the crib.
It was a brand new build.
It was the first time I boughtlike a brand new house and that

(53:39):
was like my baby, no-transcript.

(54:10):
And so I mean that was asituation where I felt like they
robbed, like they took whatthey could, smashed the windows,
what not, and I was like, yeah,I got to go buy a different
house so what would you uh tell?

Speaker 2 (54:22):
like a young version of yourself, or like a, um,
maybe like a young femalecollege student that, um,
they're thinking about what theywant to do with their life?
They don't even know that whatyou do exists, so they're
thinking about maybe getting thebest job that they can find you

(54:44):
know I mean.
So speaking of that, that thatperson, but then also keeping
you in mind, because you wereonce that person, what would you
, what would you say to toyourself?

Speaker 1 (54:54):
I would say that, like, first of all, um, you know
you talked about skill sets,what you're good at and all your
skill sets, they're gonna payoff.
Like I used to deliver pizza, Iworked in restaurants for years
.
I started working inrestaurants when I was 14.
I worked really, really hard.
I always had the work ethic andthe grind and the hustle, but I

(55:16):
wasn't making that much, butstill it was like the principle.
It's more about the work thatyou're doing and learning
sometimes than the actual money.
So I would say, first of all,you know me at a young age or um
, so my, my aunt, fosterschildren and the little, the
young girls, they're like 13, 14.

(55:38):
So they, you know, they kind oflook up to me and she really
hypes me up too.
She's like Alicia over here,like she's doing this, and that
you need to follow her, like youneed to, you know, call her
once in a while and talk to her.
So for the girls that I talk toabout this too, I'm always

(55:58):
telling them like just one, likeyou know, just simply enjoy
life, right.
Like, whatever you're doing, ifyou're stressed about money,
there's always time to change.
And, like you said, you mightnot I had never checked my
credit.
I'm going to be honest, I wasvery blessed to have, like I

(56:20):
always made my payments andstuff, so I never had checked my
credit score or knew what Iknow now, um, up until like like
a couple years ago when Istarted really getting credit
cards and understanding likethis stuff.
So, um, I would say one, like,like you said, there's so many
things out there, you might endup doing something you you
haven't even heard of yet, right, so one.
And then so one is just there's, like you said, there's so much

(56:41):
out there.
Um, if you're not happy, fix,fix it, right.
Like the guy that was, like Ijust feel like I need something
more.
Like no one's saying he has toquit his job, but he could go do
something on the side.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
No, for sure.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
And so that's what I would say.
Like you know what are youinterested in?
Right, a lot of the the youngathletes that I mentor.
They, you know they're rookies,they got drafted and stuff and
they're like alicia, I know youdo airbnb.
Um, can I do an airbnb?
Should I do it?
And I'm like, listen, this iswhat you already know, what it's

(57:15):
gonna come with.
I'm, you have a stressful jobalready, like you don't?

Speaker 2 (57:19):
even got time to worry about it.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
Yeah, yeah so if you are gonna do it, we gotta work
something out where you find amanager and you're more hands
off, and so a lot of these youngpeople.
They just don't know what theydon't know.
And I mean, that was me too.
I've made so many mistakes andI look back at like actually
even just like, the loans thatI've.
You know, when I buy a house,or bought a house, I would

(57:48):
structure the loan a certain wayand now, the more you buy, the
more you you know you're behindthe closing table like all right
, and this is that, and myclosing costs are here right,
and so you can really like havemore of a hold.
You know, when you're that young21 yearold girl I think I
bought my first house at 21.
I mean, maybe I was 22 at thattime it was like I didn't know

(58:09):
anything about the loans andwhat I could do, so you just
have to one.
Of course you hear this all thetime, but don't be afraid to
fail and just work hard.
When you do fail and you takelosses, you know, scare money,
don't make no money, right.
So take the losses and justlike, not necessarily let go of

(58:32):
them, but you got to learn fromthem and really just make sure
it doesn't happen again.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
No, I like that a lot .
I think that's really goodadvice it take.
It could take someone a littlebit to get into that mindset
because you know it, just, Iguess depends on your
surroundings.
But no, that's that's, that'ssolid.
So we're gonna hit you a coupleof quick fire, rapid fire
joints and then, um, give you anopportunity to share anything
else that you want to share okayum, all right.

(58:59):
So look, no shoes, no credit,no funding no.
Airbnb can't travel.
If you had to do something else, what would it be?

Speaker 1 (59:11):
Oh, that's a good question.
I can't travel man.
Well one.
I've always wanted to serve inthe military, the way that when
I worked for that one company Ialways felt like that was kind

(59:32):
of my way of helping support thewar fighter.
I would probably do something.
I've always been interested inthe military and all of that.
But what would I do Like mydream job or something?

Speaker 2 (59:48):
Yeah, you can't do nothing.
You're doing right now.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
I've never actually even thought about that man.
There's so much I mean.
Being a teacher would be cool.
I love little kids.
To be honest, in life, the onlything that I really care about
doing is I want to be a mother,Like and I'm not yet right,
obviously, but like I'm justthese days too, I'm getting old

(01:00:14):
and so I kind of joke aroundabout it.
But yeah, I mean it doesn'treally matter, like what I do or
how my business is run At theend of the day, like when I
leave the earth, I want to be amother, right and so, and I want
a big family.
So, um, being a teacher, likebeing, you know, able to, um

(01:00:34):
kind of influence young childrenI really like that so.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
So that's cool, because teaching okay yeah
because, you.
I mean how it is now.
You can teach online, you canteach.
Teach your family, you canteach yeah so that teaching you
make a lot of money even rightnow, teaching really, you know,
yeah, for sure not not in thetraditional sense, but utilizing
, obviously, technology yesinformation right, so that's a
good segue.

(01:00:58):
So, uh, you're not married,right?
Are you dating?

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
no kind of not, I mean I will go on a date, but I
don't have a man.

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
All right, so so okay , cool, so you want to be, you
want to be a mother, so youobviously want to have a family.
So what are like threequalities uh a guy uh would need
to have if he would be a goodcandidate for you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
Three Okay, all right .
So one is obviously just thework ethic.
I've been with people beforewhere we just didn't vibe on
that, we didn't connect withthat.

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
I think that could be a challenge for you, possibly
because you do so much, and alot of people.
I'm not saying that they got tocompete with you, but you
understand the capacity of whatone can do if they put their
mind to it, because you knowyou've done a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
And I mean, even if you kind of take it as like
they're passionate, I should saylike being passionate about
what they do and like doing itwell, okay, passionate.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
So yeah, they could do like doing it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
Well, okay, right, so yeah, they could do like one
thing be a pharmacist and theyare just like the way that they,
um, the way like they wake upevery morning and they're
motivated by what they do.
That's yeah.
One thing would be like justbeing passionate and but hard
working in general, too honest,like I just I'm honest, I'm an

(01:02:26):
open book.
I literally would just tellanybody anything.
So if I'm with someone, I meanI'm going to give them my full,
100%.
Honesty is super important tome.
And then it kind of goes alongwith respect.
Right, respect like.
Yeah, like honesty and respectkind of go together.

(01:02:48):
But those two are just likereally important qualities for
me because I'll be honest.
The second, because I'm honest,um, the second, like someone
just I've been like, oh no, thatwas disrespectful.
I can't like look at them thesame way and so yeah, so
passionate honesty and respectyeah, those are good.

(01:03:08):
Okay, you can't find that it'sbeen hard I would say like you
know, there's other things alongthe way, they got to be like
funny and like down to earth and, like you know, genuine, just
actually be like very like youknow, just connect with me.
But I think that's witheveryone.
We're all looking for someonethat's like that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
We just like enjoy our time with yeah, do you find
it's hard to date or like find aconnection or what?

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
nowadays, you think, it's hard I know we all kind of
say that too I feel like, Ithink it's hard.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
Yeah With the media.
It's, it's a challenge.

Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
And then the other thing is like so, so I'm not
like an Instagram girl, right,right, I remember years ago I
did a guy and he was like Idon't like Instagram, I don't
really want you on Instagram.
And I liked him and I mean Iwas young, this was like years,
this is probably like six yearsago.
And I mean I was young, thiswas like years, this is probably
like six years ago.

(01:04:05):
And so I literally posted likeone time that year, like I was
never an Instagram, like aninfluencer or anything, but once
I started selling shoes, it'slike you can make a lot of money
on Instagram.
And again, it's like it comesfrom the heart, it's business
Like.
It's not like, oh, I want to be, you know, in the spotlight.
It's just like look, I'venetworked, I've met so many like

(01:04:25):
some of my like greatest, likesome of my best friends bought
shoes from me from the beginning, or something like that.
And so I will say the media.
It's so hard because I don'twant to be posting every day,
but I have to in order to keepgenerating like credit clients.
So I think that that might behard for um someone.

(01:04:45):
If I meet a guy and they likeme, they.
Sometimes I'm feeling likelately it's almost like I
connect well with people thathave to like, that are posting
and doing things like that aswell, or just business owners in
general because they get it.
So but I mean, I've actuallyI've never dated like a business
owner.

(01:05:05):
I don't think, which I wouldlove to because, like I, said
yeah you kind of all my friendsown businesses and stuff.
Um, now we all do credit and thefunding and all of that and so,
um, but yeah, I mean I don'treally have any like, I don't
have a type.
I'm kind of open to honesty,respect loyalty.

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
Lead with the honesty .
Respect, yeah, no, for real.
All right, so all right.
So my last question for you, ifyou so imagine, this individual
doesn't have good credit, soyou have the opportunity to work
on this person's credit and youhave the opportunity to get
this person some funding.
Anyone in the world that youhave the opportunity to fix your

(01:05:46):
credit and get their funding itcould be anyone dead alive who
would you want to, uh, help?
out man and they need you, butit also gives you an opportunity
to to meet them I don't know.
I'm gonna say my future man, no, I kidding Yo come with some
bad credit, bro, no, no.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
I shouldn't.

Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
No like.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
I feel like just someone that's like going to be
super important to me down theroad, so it doesn't have to be
like a celebrity.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
So no celebrity, no athlete, no historian.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
I mean, I feel like I've seen it all, Like I've
definitely helped rappers withtheir credit and funding and
yeah, like in the beginning itwas like wow, this is cool, Like
I've definitely listened to youfor years and stuff, and like
so, rappers and athletes, likeit's pretty cool to help them,
because everybody needs help.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
And you know us.
You know people come to me allthe time.
They set up a credit consoleand they're like you don't even
want to see mine.
And I'm like, no, trust me,like we see.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
I've seen way worse than you?

Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
Yeah, I've had a 380 score before, like I've had a
client with a 380 score, and so,anyway, the you know the

(01:07:12):
celebrities and stuff, I feellike years ago I would come
across him all the time and belike, wow, this is cool, this is
really a nice opportunity tohelp him.
But um, now I mean maybe like alike a king or something I
don't know, like a saudi king?
That's a good question.
Someone in in america like Idon't know, trump okay, trump
trump has a lot of funding,though that's cool.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
He's good.

Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
Yeah, trump got the funding, but someone that's very
, you know someone that's justlike a huge figure in the US.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
That makes sense.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
But athletes, I mean like someone like LeBron, that
would be cool Help him out, butI don't know.
That's a good question, hemight need it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
I don't know.
That's a good question.
He might need it.
He might need it.
Listen, this has been dope.
I had a lot of fun with you onthe pod.
Is there anything else you wantto share with listeners and the
viewers?
Maybe you didn't have anopportunity to share that, or
maybe there's something that youdefinitely want them to know
and you can look right there.

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
Yeah, so no, I mean not really.
I would just say if you everneed anything, you know I'm
always here DMs always open andall of that.
I work with people every day toeven, you know, at the least
just kind of help and guide them.
So I'm here to be, you know,helpful, as if you need a real
estate mentor, or even withAirbnb I'm going to be dropping

(01:08:23):
some courses soon so credit,airbnb or just, you know, being
like a young professional womanand kind of, you know,
graduating and, like you said,at that early age, I have a soft
spot in my heart for younger,you know, girls who are just
trying to make it and they mightbe confused or lost.
You know what they're doing, soyou know what they're doing, so

(01:08:43):
you know you're not alone.
Obviously I'm lost all the time.
I make a new ideas and movesevery day, and so I would just
say yeah, um, I'm always open toit if, if, anyone needs my help
so let them know where theyneed to go um, so instagram is
alicia sky a-l-y-c-E-A-S-K-Y-E.

(01:09:04):
And yeah, I mean, there's a linkin my bio, yeah we'll put it
below too, so they can grab it.
But yeah, other than that, Ithink just Instagram.
If you've got my phone number,call text anytime.
Like I said, call me if it'surgent.
But yeah, I think that's aboutit.

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
I really appreciate you, so before we get out of
here, I'll give you oneopportunity, just like new.
You want an opportunity?

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
ask me anything you want hmm, um, I mean, what's
what?
Are your give us, your topthree biggest goals of 2025, and
how are you going gonnaaccomplish them?

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
uh, number one would be get this um.
So I got an agency that hostsentrepreneurs getting on podcast
.
So listen, if you areentrepreneur with a proven offer
and all you need to do is getin front of more people, then
click the link below and applyto work with the pod agency.
So one of the goals for podagency is um, it's a it's a new

(01:10:06):
gross million.
So right now, based on all ournumbers, it's 55 clients.
So right as of today, we need52 more, or no 51?
Yeah, 51 more and it'd be agross million in that agency.
So one would be.
The first goal is that you knowum.
So to help me do that, I needto hire more people.

(01:10:27):
Um.
The second thing is is I'mlearning.
This is like I'm doing it now,but I you know this is for the
future.

Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
I'm learning trading you know so yeah, so I'm taking
a trading conference the otherday, yeah, so I'm taking some
time to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
And then the third thing is um, uh, my government
contract business okay ohawesome, so you are gonna do it.
Yeah, I mean I have everything,I just have to just you know,
submit for contracts?
Yep, yeah.
So those things, I mean, thoseare all gonna be game changer
and then um, how am I gonna makeit happen with all of them?

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
I think it's, you know, just more teamwork, um,
leadership, delegation, um, andthen, just you know, just being
a better manager and a betterleader sure, that's awesome,
that's what I got yeah, we'llhave to talk about the trading
twos, yeah let's go crazy cryptotrading all that is just yeah
it's going crazy and it's likeit makes you as a nine to five,

(01:11:22):
you you know, like when you areworking in a nine, to five,
you're like man, these peopleare making this and like once
you start seeing it, it's likethat's some move now.
I mean you don't have to go tocollege anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:11:32):
No, no.
What y'all need to understandis like you got to figure out,
you got to learn the language ofmoney and you got to like,
think bigger than you think,because, like there's, like
money's literally unlimited youknow it's like literally
unlimited, so you can make asmuch as you want, but you need
to learn the language andactually spend your time in
areas where you can make moneyand like you can make money

(01:11:55):
doing whatever but you can makea lot more being in areas where,
like, the money's actuallymoving.
So I like, if I had to speak tomy younger self, that's what I
would say like instead of me.
Like running a basketballleague and starting a clothing
company even though the clothingcompany did hit seven figures.
I would have spent more time inareas where the money's at,

(01:12:15):
because people need more helpwith that.
Sure, most people don't.
Most people never learn how totrade.
They don't know how to budget,they don't know how to save.
They know how to invest.
So if you learn that stuff, youcan make a lot of money just
helping people get theconfidence to, because there's a
lot of people Not everyone'sbroke.
There's a lot of people thatgot money, even people that just
got regular jobs.
Yeah, so there's a lot ofpeople with regular jobs that

(01:12:37):
have money that don't know whatto do with it and they're and
they're afraid, and they'reafraid to put it anywhere and
they think the best place for itis in the savings account or
they're holding on to their 401kand they're just waiting for
some arbitrary date to use it,when they could actually put the
money in motion, because moneyneeds to move that's really the
secret of money, like it's basedon water loss, so money needs

(01:12:59):
to be in motion.
That's on another podcast, butthat's what that's.
That's you know yeah, that'sprobably what it is.
For sure, yeah, no, for sure,yeah I think that's a big thing.

Speaker 1 (01:13:08):
Like you said, there's a lot of people that
have money but for them to andthey want to invest it.
But also I mean maybe theymight be working at nine to five
and it's scary.
My dad is like super smart,he's always investing, he's
trading, he's doing crypto andall that, and I'm like he's
buying gold like, yeah, he's,he's tough but he's worked, you

(01:13:30):
know, nine to five jobs, sincehe's been at the same company
since before I was born likewhat?
30 years, 29 years and um.
He has an 850 credit score andI'm like dad, you're using it,
not using it.
That's what I'm saying, and soI sat him down for christmas.
I'm like dad, you ain't usingit Not using it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
That's what I'm saying, and so I sat him down
for Christmas.

Speaker 1 (01:13:45):
I'm like so, all right, so what can we do?
Because you know, now I'm withthis business funding and I'm
like you are, you're like aperfect candidate.
So I'm trying to get you somemoney, like what kind of?
Because he has a business owner, but he's like I think I'd want
a car, maybe like a car wash.
I'm like, bet, I'm looking atcar washes going right now.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
Yeah, looking at car washes for sure so.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:14:06):
But yeah, overall that's good advice.

Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
Listen, y'all.
It's been another amazingepisode of the podcast.
I had a lot of fun.
I feel like we could just keeprolling, but I got to let her go
.
She'll probably come back,though.
Maybe we'll get a pop inhouston, or or you come back.
Uh, let them know again.
Uh, look at this camera.
Let them know again where theyneed to go to tap in with you on
instagram yep, alicia sky,a-l-y-c-e-a-s-k-y-e and um, yeah

(01:14:35):
, I think that's.

Speaker 1 (01:14:36):
That's basically.
I've got a facebook and stuffbut yeah, instagram is really
mostly what I use, so so ify'all need some shoes.

Speaker 2 (01:14:43):
You got to get your credit fixed.
You want some funding or maybeyou want to get that Airbnb
coaching.
Definitely hit her in the DM.
It's going to be down below andit's been another episode of
the On Pursuit Podcast, where weconnect with amazing people
that we bring in you so you canlearn from them and then change
your life, make it a little bitdifferent.
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