Poverty to Prosperity | Brandon Bluenotes - ON THE PURSUIT PODCAST (PRST)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So it ended up being bro, where God just gave me this
, this nausea.
He made me so nauseous aboutthrowing up all the information
that I was learning.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
That's a good way to put it.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
And it was like I couldn't keep my mouth shut
about what I was doing.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
So what have you found to work with you in real
estate?

Speaker 1 (00:17):
So I said you know what there has to be another way
that I can get into real estatewithout you know being that
control.
So I started to look intowhat's called wholesaling real
estate and that's how I ranacross that and since then, man,
it's been.
It's been what's changed mylife forever.
You know, I've coached now overthousands of students.
I've done a little over 400deals, so through those profits

(00:38):
I've been able to do tremendousthings.
I've been able to now learn howto flip and fix and flip, you
know, do creative deals, loanmoney.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Basically, I'm vertically integrated into the
whole real estate side, likewhat are some of the intangibles
that came out of you beinglocked up?

Speaker 1 (00:54):
So, first and foremost is understanding that
just as quickly as God gave itto you, god can take it away,
and I started to do things whereit's like man.
You know what, if I had to sitbehind those bars for 15 years?
Besides Gucci, louis, rolexesand a bunch of followers and
cash in my bank account, whatdid I actually leave behind from

(01:15):
my bank?

Speaker 2 (01:23):
What's up y'all?
Welcome to another episode ofthe Honor Pursuit Podcast.
We connect with entrepreneurs,business people, movers and
shakers.
Today's episode is a spicy onebecause this individual is
someone that I connected with acouple of years ago, and I was
actually at a mastermind and hewas speaking and he definitely
stood out to me.

(01:43):
He stood out to me from allways and one and it was really
like how he was carrying himself, and not only how he was
carrying himself, but theinformation he was giving to
people.
And this is someone that listenI don't know if he's on the
fashion side, I don't know ifhe's on the business side.
You know what I'm saying, buthe gets busy on both sides, and

(02:03):
I was in Orlando.
I was in Orlando with my guy,Jay Monopoly, who's a mutual
friend of ours.
Jay put on this event and hedefinitely stood out, bro.
So, Brandon, Appreciate you,brother.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Welcome to the podcast, bro, thank you.
Thank you so much for having me, bro, long time coming.
Yeah, I'm just excited to behere and just share my story and
give value to the people, to beable to go ahead and also take
their journey on and progressand do something positive and
have a good impact on otherpeople as well.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
So, bro, when I looked at our thread, you had me
on red for a minute.
Damn, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
That's my fault.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Had me on red for a minute, bro, so let me just ask
you this what made you want touh, come on the pod?
Why is now the time?

Speaker 1 (02:49):
um.
So I mean, we were just talkingabout this, obviously, before
we got on here, right, god'stime, not yours time, not your
time, um.
But in all honesty, um, I sawsomebody else that you, you know
, went ahead and did a podcastwith yeah and uh, you like you
the pod goat, you know what I'msaying.
Uh, out here, out here in miami,yeah, um.
So you know, at the same time,you look like you the pod goat,
you know what I'm saying, outhere in Miami.
So, you know, at the same time,I was like you know, let me go

(03:10):
and tap in with him.
And obviously I saw that youhit me up.
And then, when you told meabout the event I was like oh,
now I remember.
So it kind of put two and twotogether.
But you know, it's all aboutconnections and sometimes it's
just how it goes, it's justtiming.
So, like I said, just reallyexcited to be here, really
excited to make it happen, andfor some odd reason God didn't
want me to do it then, butobviously he wanted us to do it

(03:30):
now.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
So let me ask you this because I think that's what
you just said.
Now you said maybe God didn'twant us to do it then, but maybe
now's the time.
So last week I got baptized andbefore I got baptized, a couple
of people that I know that havebeen baptized.
Yeah, or maybe they've been ontheir walk with God, maybe a

(03:53):
little bit more intentionallythan me at the time, or they've
been on it a little longer.
Whatever the case may be, theywas like yo when you get
baptized, watch how your lifechange.
Like they were, like I couldfeel it, like they meant that
yeah, yeah, it was like justwatch, right, yeah, and I'm not
saying I didn't believe them,but like the conviction was
there, yeah.

(04:13):
And then I'm like I'm like,well, what am I watching for in
my mind?
I'm like you know what I'msaying, but it's been, it's been
um, it's been six days, it'sbeen about six days and just
this week alone I could say Iprobably made the most money
I've made in a week.
You know what I'm saying Everthis week.

(04:35):
And certain individuals I feellike I've been connected to this
week.
You know what I mean.
Let's say you're one of themthis week yeah, you know what I
mean.
Let's say you're one of them.
Relationships yeah, 100%.
So I think that and I believeif you don't have a relationship
with God, I don't think youwould understand.

(04:57):
I don't think you wouldunderstand.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
Yeah, it's one of those things, like you just said
, that you just kind of feel it.
Yeah, and that's where my thingcame from.
Sponsored by God, I started todo things and I started to see
my life just transform.
And when I first started mycoaching business, I didn't call
it a coaching business, I wasjust literally putting out
information about me starting myreal estate journey.

(05:20):
And it was crazy, because Icome from the era or the time
where it's like you learnsomething and it's working for
you.
I'm not telling nobody else,why would I?

Speaker 2 (05:28):
tell you how I'm making money Right.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
So it ended up being bro, where God just gave me this
, this nausea.
He made me so nauseous aboutthrowing up all the information
that I was learning.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
That's a good way to put it.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
And it was like I couldn't keep my mouth shut
about what I was doing.
And it was crazy because a lotof the times, you know, I have
family and this is just how Iwas raised like, hey, if
something's going good for you,don't tell everybody.
You're gonna have that negativeenergy, you know you're gonna
have people mess up your vibe,you know it may not go well for
you, whatever.
And it's just.
I had that emotion where it wasjust every time I did something

(06:00):
good or I was making a stepforward, it was like I had to go
strictly to the camera right,like I went from MySpace bro to
Instagram.
So I had a whole period of mylifetime where I didn't have no
social media.
And essentially, after Istarted looking at my life and I
started coaching people andtelling people, there were some
people that really took action,followed the framework and it
worked.
But then there was some otherpeople that followed the

(06:22):
framework and it didn't work forthem and I was like what's up?
Guys, listen, if you want to goahead and get started in real
estate without the hassle ofgoing ahead and quitting your
job, right now I'm actuallyhosting masterclasses on
Thursday and Sundays where I'mgoing to be showing you exactly
how to go ahead and leverage AIto do most of the work.
Now, the cool thing is thatthose days of driving around
looking for ugly properties orcalling hundreds and thousands

(06:44):
of people are close to overbecause of AI.
So, once again, if you'reinterested in getting started in
real estate and know this isn'tfixing the flip and it's not
Airbnb or having a rentalportfolio or having a fix and
flip, go ahead and go to thelink on my bio at
wwwairealestatemasterclasscom.
I'm going to be showing youguys exactly the steps from A to
Z to go ahead and get itstarted.

(07:05):
Make sure you tap in, let's getit.
I don't know what to tell you.
It worked for me and it keepsworking for me, and that's where
it came about, where, if youlook at anybody's life man,
you'll start to figure out howblessed we are and how we're all
sponsored by God.
It's not luck, right,conviction and those things that
are happening to you.
That person won't really beable to know until they go

(07:26):
through it.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
No, that's a fact, you know.
I'm saying I can't even explainit to him.
Yeah, it's just one of thosethings that you, you just know
you feel it like.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
you feel like you glowing, yeah, and you feel like
, at the same time not not aform of like being invincible,
but you feel like you haveprotection and you feel like, as
long as you're moving towards apositive trajectory because a
lot of times people got tounderstand, bro, is that speed
is not important, just direction.
And right now you've directedyour life in a positive way,
where you said you know what I'mgoing to align myself with God

(07:54):
and anybody aligns herself with,obviously, what we believe in
and how we should live our lives.
And, as you're seeing it rightnow, in one week you've made the
most money.
I mean, I know you was inAtlanta yesterday, now today you
in Miami.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
I was trapped in Atlanta yesterday.
Yeah, and shout out to Rob.
We just met this guy, rob, whochartered Jets.
I'm telling you, if I wouldhave met him like 48 hours
earlier, I would not have beenstuck in Atlanta, not have been
stuck in Atlanta.
But like you shared, and it'snot even you know, I'm just
using.
When I say the money for people, I'm just saying that right,

(08:31):
just to not even to make anyonefeel a way.
I'm just giving y'all somethingthat might be tangible, because
it's another thing.
So one of my biggest things isalso relationship capital.
So like getting in certainrooms building with certain
individuals sitting down, havingopportunities to converse, or
just seeing how things are beingaligned and moving, those are

(08:52):
also things that are alsohappening.
But when you say money, it getspeople's attention.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
So they can pay attention to that Rob Markman
and I wanted to add to that.
You were like man.
I don't know if you're on thebusiness side or the fashion
side.
Once again, I'm where it isbecause I know that I'm in
competition with Lamborghinis,with girls twerking on Instagram
and, at the end of the day,this is a resume to be able to
capture that one person.
That person that was me five,six years ago, that all I was

(09:19):
doing was trying to learn andtrying to follow what rappers
did, or trying to always be inthe mix of what was going on in
the culture.
And if it wasn't for that oneperson that just captured my

(09:39):
attention because they talkedabout success and they looked
like me I probably wouldn't havebeen here today.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
So, yeah, bro, that's really how I felt when I seen
you the first time.
Right, like you said, you wearwhat you have on as a form of
marketing.
Yeah, right, form of marketing.
So to me it doesn't matter,right, of course, to me, now,
other people, certain things aregoing To me.
Now other people, certainthings are going to pick up.

(10:07):
Now, there obviously arecertain things I'm going to
gravitate towards.
The reason why I'm saying thisis because when I saw you a
couple years ago, it wasn'tnecessarily what you had on that
stood out.
I feel like it was the energy,and then the information, and
then, obviously, thepresentation.
Right, I feel like one of themain things that people tend to

(10:27):
not lean more into, yeah, isspeaking.
So if you have value, which youdo, yeah, and you're able to
package that value up and conveythat value clearly and
concisely, with confidence andconviction, and you can do it in
front of people yeah, you knowwe're doing it on a podcast, but
if you do it in an elevatedfashion, like on a stage, you're

(10:52):
going to be able to connectwith individuals.
100%.
Right, you're passing off yourknowledge base in real time for
someone to capture and catch.
So, for me when I went toOrlando and and um, I saw, I
think it was you um the otherbrandon method.
Okay, right, mad, brandon's andbrandon's exactly, yeah yeah,

(11:15):
facts, um, y'all both stood outto me.
He stood out because he he justhis charisma and and his energy
his voice is a little higher,yeah, but to me it was a lot of
stuff that you were sharing,that I was like yo, there's
something about this dude.
So I followed you right awayand I seen you again live at

(11:36):
another one of Jay's events.
I think this one was in Miami.
It might have been right beforeI moved here, yeah.
So it was like maybe a littleover two years ago, yeah.
And then obviously, I've beenfollowing you online.
So you talked about what you'redoing in real estate.
So, for those that are notreally privy to how you've
really been successful in thespace in which you've been
teaching people, how can yousimply break that down?

(11:58):
Because real estate is vast.
So there's so many differentways to do a deal On the
residential side, the commercialside, wholesale subject to.
You know what I'm saying Taxdeeds, buy land, build, develop.
There's so many different waysfor you to navigate in this
space.
So what have you found to workwith you in real estate?

Speaker 1 (12:18):
I mean, honestly, I think it's what gathers a lot of
people that are successful.
I just found the best way to beable to connect to people that
have a major problem and I thinkthat, you know, I wouldn't have
stumbled upon that if it wasn'tfor becoming a realtor.
So, essentially, what ended uphappening was that I, uh, I was

(12:38):
doing, you know, the wholeamerican dream.
I would just say more like theimmigrant dream, right?
Um, because a lot of timeswe're indoctrinated to work
multiple jobs.
So my family, I started offbasically as an apprentice
barber, so I used to clean thebarber shop and then I wanted to
learn how to cut hair.
I want to stay fresh.
I was like you know what, everytime I asked my mom in high
school, middle school, can I getsomething for my haircut or

(13:00):
whatever it was always are goingup.
So I said you know what, let mejust learn how to cut hair,
because I didn't know what Iwanted to do with my life.
That was definitely pre-Miamiprices.
Yeah, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
You wouldn't have had no haircut out here.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
So after that it ended up being that I started to
look at what's called myearning capacity and I started
to look around and most of thebarbers no, knock on the barbers
.
I love the barber industry.
I feel like it's an art, I feellike it's definitely a great
career.
But I started to notice that Ihad to spend more time, either
to make more money, to put morehours in, or, b I had to go
ahead and up my prices.

(13:33):
But it's very difficult to upyour prices if your competitors
are right next to you, right,and it's very hard, if you're
trying to get away from that, tobe able to spend more time
cutting hair to make more money,if you want to go and spend
more time with your family.
So then I looked at the thirdoption, which was essentially
becoming an owner, but mostbarbershops that I went to the
owner was still cutting hair.
So I started to look at howmuch money could I really make

(13:57):
and I honestly had like a littlebottleneck and I said you know
what, let me just try thecollege thing out.
So I went part-time with thatonly cut Friday, saturday,
sunday.
Then after that I started goingto community college and, just
like a lot of people.
I didn't know what I wanted todo and in my little city, in
Orlando, basically a lot ofpeople that got a job at the
hospital because the newerhospital was really up and

(14:17):
coming and it was good.
You kind of made it.
So I started volunteering and Istarted going to school to
become a nurse.
So I'm doing my AA, my prereqsand all that good stuff, or at
least trying to and um, afterfour months of volunteering at
the hospital, they hired me as apatient transporter making 9.50
an hour, and I was happy man, Iwas like man, I got scrubs, I
got a badge, I gotta come intowork, I got benefits, right, and

(14:38):
this is what society does tokeep you all indoctrinated to
their system, because a lot ofpeople they won't quit their job
because of benefits, because ofdental, because of the pension
and the 401k whatever it is, andthey don't realize they can
just get their own benefits.
Yeah, a whole bunch of scams.
So it ended up being that I wasgoing to community college
Tuesday, thursday, I was workingat the hospital Monday,
wednesday, and then I wasworking at home with mom and

(15:02):
grandma.
I was raised by two singlewomen and it ended up being that
one day, bro, I'm at Publix andmy grandma and I were doing
some groceries.
I'm like 20, maybe I'm 20, Ithink 25, 24, maybe 225, around
there and she goes to swipe thecard, the groceries, and it

(15:23):
declines.
And the guy behind me, he'slike, oh, so I'll take care of
it.
And he ends up paying for thegroceries in front of me and my
grandmother and I said, fromthis day on, I will make sure
that no other man ever allows togo to make sure that me and my
family eat.
And I started to go online andtry to figure out the best way
to do things.
How old were you at the time?
I was like 24, turning 25.

(15:44):
Oh, yeah, so you was a youngman for real.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So my dad always did real estateand I used to talk to him here
and on.
I met my dad when I was 13.
So it was like one of thosethings where I was like you know
what, let me just kind of trythat out.
And I was seeing everybodyanybody that goes into real
estate you know it's money.
So I went, became a realtorOnce again, failed at that.

(16:04):
I was a realtor for a wholeyear, couldn't get anybody to
let me list a property or do anyof that stuff.
And I said you know what, therehas to be another way, right.
And I felt like this was wherelife was kind of changing for me
, because I read the book RichDad, poor Dad, but not only that
.
I also read Outwitting theDevil, which is one of my
favorite books, and I started tounderstand that most people,

(16:27):
the reason why they're notsuccessful is because they
cannot focus on one thing andthey quit too early.
It's kind of like having a sixpack, right, I mean everybody
goes to the gym, but it doesn'tmean everybody has a six pack,
right, but most people don't putin enough work to see the
results.
So I said you know what?
There has to be another waythat I can get into real estate
without you know being thatcontrol.
So I started to look intowhat's called wholesaling real

(16:49):
estate and that's how I ranacross that and since then, man,
it's been, it's been what'schanged my life forever.
You know I've coached now overthousands of students, I've done
a little over 400 deals and youknow it's been a blessing, you
know, to be able to do this.
So what I teach is real estatewholesaling, where you just find
distressed property with anattached motivation, somebody

(17:10):
that may be going through adivorce or somebody inherits a
property or whatever the casemay be we go ahead and offer
them a current condition, priceoffer and at that point in time
we just middleman the fee so wesell that contract to somebody
else.
So through those profits I'vebeen able to do tremendous
things.
I've been able to now learn howto fix and flip, do creative

(17:36):
deals, loan money.
Basically, I'm verticallyintegrated into the whole real
estate side.
And I learned basically forfree, because I also remember
attending a seminar at HolidayInn where they were teaching the
fix and flip joint for $15,000.
And the guy comes out in theBurlington suit you know what
I'm saying and he's like hey,you want to come by.
So it's just been a blessingbecause I feel like all roads
lead to real estate.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
Yeah, for sure I mean yo, people need somewhere to
live.
We're in a building right now,exactly Right.
This is a commercial realestate.
Build them Exactly Right.
So at the end of the day, ifthe owner came through some
trouble times or he had to makea move, you were privy to that.
That's an opportunity.
You know what I'm saying?
Who were you at that time?
And then, how are you differentnow?

Speaker 1 (18:16):
Yeah, man.
So at that time I mean let'stalk about God's timing, right.
I mean God will take a nobodyin front of everybody and turn
them into somebody.
He'll put you back together infront of everybody that ever
broke you.
Growing up, I was a redheadedstepchild.
I was the one I got with mygirl when I was 16 years old
Family saying, oh, they're goingto get pregnant soon.

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I got expelled from two highschools and I used to be in
trouble all the time.
So it was crazy because my lifewent from literally changing I
wouldn't say overnight, but itwas my mindset that I said you
know what?
I no longer want to be thisperson.
I no longer want to change orchase this persona of me being
this hurt boy in the worldbecause my dad is not around and

(18:59):
I'm being raised by a singlemom.
And once I started to change howI looked at things and how I
perceive things, things startedto go ahead and just get better
for me.
But I thank God because if Iwould have got success before
that time, I would have blew itall away, because I didn't have
the mindset, I didn't have thecapacity to understand that this

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isn't just about you and I.
It's about how we put otherpeople on and how we're able to
put other people in position todo better.
I was basically just living inthis whole facade of I need to
get what's mine, and I think thebiggest thing that really
changed me, bro, is that I hadto have that selfish moment with
myself.

(19:40):
I had to be able to cut thepeople off at the limb, the
people that didn't understand myvision, the people that
unfortunately didn't know what Iwas doing.
I had to be able to say youknow what this is going to be my
selfish time to focus on me soI can come back and feed the
village.
For example, if you're on aplane and it's going down the

(20:00):
oxygen mask, come down.
They say you got to put on youroxygen mask on first before you
go ahead and help anybody else.
So in a world of poverty at thesame time, how can you help
anybody if you're notprogressing towards any steps?
It's just the blind leading theblind, right?
Kids, kids versus kids.
So my selfish moment wasliterally what changed for me,

(20:21):
and then my rich dad ended upcoming along later on in life,
which was a mentor to me, and itwouldn't have never happened if
it wasn't for my mindset.
And I know it's really, reallycliche because people tell me
hey, how did you get, how didyou get here?
But mindset is what changedeverything.
And not only that, it's alsounderstanding that relationships
are super important, like superimportant.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
And if I can just get in front of 10 people a day, a
week, whatever the case may be,and have new conversations, I
promise you I can always makemoney.
That's an interestingperspective, bro, because, like
you said, the mindset is cliche.
Yeah, there's tons of peoplethat are probably tuned in
watching, listening, andobviously, people that you know.
Yeah, how does one go towardschanging their mindset?
Because this is the thing,right?
So you mentioned the successthat you've been able to

(21:17):
accomplish and and what peopleperceived.
Yeah, but people want thatright now.
Yeah, they want it now.
So they're gonna see, they'regonna see the presentation,
they're gonna see your instagrambio, gonna see you know how,
how you come across, how youspeak about it and obviously,
your success, right.
Yeah, but they want it right nowyeah, but what are the steps

(21:38):
that one may need to go to ifthey are serious about changing
their mindset?
And then what does thatactually mean?
Yeah, because I want people tounderstand, like the things that
you may need to not only pursuebut give up or sacrifice or
limit if you're really lookingto rebuild or or have a
different mindset, because youcan't just go out and look to

(21:59):
acquire something thinking thesame way that you think yeah, no
, it's not gonna be able to holdon to it yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
So I mean I think, first and foremost, let's go
ahead and talk about right whatmindset is right.
If you break down the mindset,it's, your mind is already set
right.
So from little kids, ourparents have shown us how to
become these people and when ourmind has been set a certain way
.
So, for example, I don't knowabout your background, but I

(22:24):
know you say you're from Bostonbut, like growing up, I didn't
know financial literacy.
I wasn't taught credit.
Nobody in my immediate familyhad home ownership.
I come from Queens, new York,where all me and my cousins we
out of the same apartment.
So you have to understand thatwhen your eyes aren't horizoned
into bigger and better things,it's not your fault, but it is

(22:47):
your fault if you keep choosingto not look for that.
So you have to really go aheadand reset your mindset to
understand that there'sdifferent things out there.
There's bigger things than justyour little city in Atlanta or
your little city in Houston orjust Queens or the Bronx.
You got to look at the horizonand how you can really get ahead
.
So what I learned, brent, isgoing to be that opportunity is

(23:10):
the most expensive thing in life.
So every time that you miss anopportunity.
That's your trip.
And I noticed that every timethat I saw afterwards that I saw
an abandoned house, I couldhave been making money.
It's just I didn't know how toidentify that opportunity.
So you have to be in a sense anopportunist to understand

(23:31):
that's the way to make money orthat's the way to be able to
solve a problem, a big problem,and at that point in time I can
get paid for that value Right.
So now means no opportunitywasted.
And I think a lot of times ifyou want to go ahead and get
started right now, you have toreally go ahead and understand
what's called selectivediscipline.
I got friends that in the gymthey diet, gym Great, but

(23:54):
financially they make no money.
So they dialed in on certainthings.
I know people that, yo, what'stonight, Saturday?
Yeah bro, you got to hit thisjoint and then go to that club.
And then they know thenightlife.
Then there's some people thatare really successful but
they're really bad with theirfood habits, right.
So you have to understand thateverything that you do is your

(24:15):
fault and you get what youdeserve.
If you go ahead and look atyour phone and that bank account
say negative $38, that was yourfault because you had an
opportunity to make money today,but you also spent more than
what you made, right?
If you look in the mirror,right, and you just upset with
how you are, how you, whateveryour case may be, you get what

(24:35):
you deserve.
So I'm a big believer in reallygoing ahead and having an action
plan, and that's what I seemost young entrepreneurs having
is that they don't have anaction plan.
They say they want to go aheadand start a t-shirt business and
the first step, they think, isgetting an LLC and getting
business cards Withoutunderstanding how you're going
to get to that.
Maybe that first client?
How are you going to get tothat?
Maybe that first client, right?
How are you going to get tothat $1,000 a month, right?

(24:57):
How are you going to you knowwhat is the website, what is the
logo, what is going to be yourunique selling point to be able
to outbeat your competitors,right?
So number one, once again, isidentifying opportunities and
really looking at the earningcapacity to say, okay, I want to
jump in this field because thisfield is unlimited and I can
make as much money as I want to.
Number two is talking toyourself and holding yourself

(25:19):
responsible and understanding.
Listen, I need to haveselective discipline and knowing
that, even though it's MemorialDay weekend, I need to be
working.
Because if you look at thecalendar, b right, check it out.
Isn't it so crazy how there's aholiday every four to six weeks
to keep people at bay from notreally understanding or seeing
what's going on in the workplace?

(25:40):
100 and so we excited about it?
Yeah, so the crazy thing isright?
Saint patrick's day how manyirish people are really going
ahead and taking off anddrinking that day?
Right?
Cinco de mayo how many peopleare really mexican that are
actually celebrating that right?
Memorial day there's somepeople right now that's going to
be celebrating memorial day,don't?
Cinco de Mayo?
How many people are reallyMexican that are actually
celebrating that right?
Memorial Day there's somepeople right now that's going to

(26:00):
be celebrating Memorial DayDon't even know what it stands
for Labor Day weekend.
I see people all the time right,having fun on Labor Day weekend
, but they haven't worked inthree months.
It's Labor Day weekend, meaningthat these are for the people
that obviously have labored.
So, if you look at it right,the holidays are built to keep

(26:20):
us at bay, and that's what Istarted to understand is I'm a
single.
I'm a single child.
Why can't Mother's Day be everyday, right?
Why do I have to wait forChristmas to be able to gift my
family?
Why can I right now, me and you, go to Poppy Steak and feast?
Why do we have to wait forNovember 25th?
So when you start to look atthese things on how society

(26:45):
keeps you at bay and how theykeep you in poverty, you start
to understand that these peopleare not for you, that you got to
go ahead and be able to vet foryourself.
I remember, bro, when I startedgetting into credit because I
wanted to get into moreproperties, I went to Navy
Federal and, off rip, they gaveme $25,000.
I got the flagship and I gotthe Amex.
I went ahead and got a businesscredit card.
I had to go through an array ofproblems and then they gave me

(27:08):
$10,000.
They don't want us to bebusiness owners.
They don't want us to be ableto control our inner capacity.
They want to keep us at bay andthey understand what debt is
used for, right.
So that's what I would say isreally getting out of this
matrix and understanding thatyou got to get it out the mud
and you have to start hangingaround people that are really
doing it, but doing it in theirway and solving a big problem in

(27:31):
the marketplace, and your jobis to go out there and find
those people.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
So you said you met your dad when you was 13.
13, yeah, is he still in yourlife?

Speaker 1 (27:44):
I would say, for the most part we have a decent
relationship.
You know, I wouldn't say that Isee him as a father.
I see him as a dad.
You know somebody that Irespect, somebody that I
appreciate, that God has allowedme to have in my life.
But I think that sometimes afather, to be called a father,

(28:05):
you have to it's actions, so youwere raised by your mom and
your grandma, my mom and mygrandmother.
Those are my heroes.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
So I was raised by my mom and my grandmother too, and
I'm a single child too.
I do have brothers and sisterson my dad's side.
We didn't grow up together, soI was really raised as a single
child in a house full of women.
So a lot of things that youjust shared, right, and if

(28:35):
people are listening to yourmeeting for the first time or
they've watched your journey,there's certain things that you
share.
And then how you carry yourself.
There's clearly a maturationprocess to happen.
What do you think a man is?
And then, when do you think youbecame a man?
And also, where did you learnyour discipline and

(28:59):
accountability from?
Because, ultimately, if yourdad wasn't in your life until 13
and you don't really considerhim as being a father in your
life, there had to be somethingthat occurred that contributed
to you maturing.
Yeah Right, and then you alsodecided that you know what being

(29:20):
a man is.
This, these are these thingsI'm going to go out and and, and
you know, become these thingsor acquire these things these
tools, yep, and I'm not going todo these other things, yeah, so
so.
So, what was that and when wasthat for you?

Speaker 1 (29:37):
I mean, I think that that man moment was at that
supermarket where, you know, mygrandmother's card declined and,
you know, another man ended uppaying for the groceries and at
that point in time I said Iwould never have nobody else
dictate whether me and my familyeats.
But I think a man is someonethat understands that it's not

(29:58):
only about them, it's aboutpushing the generation forward,
it's about the legacy, it'sabout being able to lead by
example and not being selfish ina way to where boo-hoo me.
I think that right now inAmerica there's a lot of

(30:18):
masculinity.
Just get down, you know I'msaying there's a lot of house
husbands out here.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
There's a lot of people that you were saying,
when becoming a man, there'scertain things that you identify
with.
Yeah, and you talk about thatmaturation process and then for
you it.
It was at the grocery storewhen somebody else Rob Markman.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
Paid for our groceries, rob Markman.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
Took care of your family.
Rob Markman yeah, exactly, robMarkman.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
And you was like.
That moment was like RobMarkman, yeah, no, I mean, at
that moment it clicked for mebecause you have to understand
that right now.
If you're living at home withyour peoples and you're not
taking advantage of the factthat you're only paying your
phone bill and your carinsurance, you're not trying to
learn a high level skill set.
That's not no manly move, right.
If you're still thinking thatyour homies is going to be there

(31:05):
for you and you got the gameall messed up because you go
into the club and try to impresspeople or you're trying to live
day by day, that's not being aman.
A man is understanding that youhave purpose, that you have to
make impact and that your job isto reproduce and make sure that
your kids and the nextgenerations live on in a better

(31:26):
position than you were before.
You have to lead by example,and obviously that's something
that my dad wasn't there for, soI wasn't able to learn those
things.
But I started to learn thosethings as I got my gifts and my
talents from from real estatewholesaling as far as becoming a
coach, and I feel like everysingle time that somebody ends
up giving me the opportunity tocoach them and learn from them.

(31:46):
Whether if it's in a freewebinar or they've paid me
thousands of dollars, I do feellike it's my calling to make
sure that I lead as a man, to beable to say hey, you know, this
is what you should do to beable to help your family, if
that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
No, no, that definitely makes sense.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
So because and not to cut you off right, but to say
this too you have to understand,bro, that right now, if you
have a skillset or you're goodat something and you're not
telling other people about it,you selfish.
Because God wouldn't want that.
Because right now there's goingto be people watching this
podcast that, if I'm not talkingabout my journey or maybe give
them some tangible steps, theywould have not got started.
And in 10, 15 years, because ofthis podcast right here,

(32:27):
somebody went ahead and made six, seven figures.
Because that's how we wereright.
We went on YouTube and we sawsomebody said hold on, he looked
like me, he sound like me, hecome from the same type of place
I come from, he also in thesame type of situation.
Let me try this real estatewholesaling thing.
Boom, it works.
Then you run into him at atAldi's or Publix.
You're like man, I watched thispodcast with you and B bro, and

(32:48):
I ain't gonna lie, that's how Igot started.
And now you know I'm driving.
I'm driving the Uris.
So you have to understand thatyou can't be selfish.
If you're good at something,you got to start talking about
it.
You got to start putting otherpeople on as much as you can.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Can you just have me think for a second?
So, the person you are rightnow, everything you've
accomplished thus far, you'restill a young man, right?
What are some of the challengesyou're having now and where are
you aspiring to go?

(33:31):
Because at some point, who youare now, you wanted to become
that, of course, but this is whoyou are now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,but you're still a young man.
You still got a lot of lifeleft.
You still got things like youshared with me offline.
You're not a father yet.
You're not married, so thoseare still chapters that, if

(33:53):
that's, what you want to check.
You want to cross those.
So what are some of thechallenge you have now as an
entrepreneur?
Mm-hmm, that's successful.
That's leading teachingtraining right.
That has a family.
What does that look like andwhat's that next step?

Speaker 1 (34:10):
yeah, I mean, I think that that's a great question,
bro, because I think it's alwaysunderstanding that you got to
stay on track.
It's being reminded about yourpurpose and your goals.
You see, online sometimesthings can be perceptive.
As you know, things are perfectand everything's going well for
you, but things aren't alwayslike that.

(34:31):
Most of the times in business.
You know you're actuallygetting beat up every day and
I've said this before and Itruly believe it I feel like
there's nothing harder thanbeing a male minority
entrepreneur, because as aminority, obviously it's very
difficult for you to get yourstep in.
As a male, we're brought intothis whole masculinity and

(34:54):
testosterone thing where youknow you can't have any type of
emotional aspect to you, right,there's nothing ever wrong with
you and you can't really, youknow, go out and seek these
types of talks or therapy, right?
And then, as an entrepreneur, Icould be sitting with you right
now wearing this, but I couldhave lost 20,000 today.
I could have had my CEO quit onme.

(35:15):
I could have had a managerwhich is handling all my stuff
where things are going well,quit on me and I'm over here
with this game face on like it'sall good.
We got to get back to it.
So a lot of the times it'sbeing reminded of why you
started and it's also staying onthat path.
I talked about this recently,last year.
I talked about this recentlyLast year.

(35:36):
I ended up making a high schooldecision.
I got into an altercation withsomebody and I felt like you
know they were going to hit meand I you know defended myself
and ended up going to jail forit.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
So I mean you're making this sound nice, bro, but
you clearly got in a fight.
Yeah, got into a fight yeah, Imean 100%, and you punched
somebody in the face, yep.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
And then you got locked up.
Got locked up, yeah.
So I mean it was crazy, becauseyou know you want to talk about
God.
It's so crazy how God doesthings right At that current
time.
My mom was in the hospital andshe was in the hospital for
something that we didn't knowwhy.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
So your mom was in the hospital and you got locked
up and it was at the same time,same time.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
So you couldn't even go see your mom, yep.
So the crazy thing is that whenI went to jail and I got out,
at this point in time, Icouldn't use Blue Notes, brandon
, I couldn't use my money, Icouldn't use anything.
God said I want you to payattention to me, even though you
got this fame or thesefollowers on Instagram, even

(36:36):
though your bank account is alittle hefty, even though that
you've been doing all thesegreat things.
I want you to understand thatright now, something's been
going on.
There's a disconnect.
I need you to pay attentionwith me, I need you to lean in.
So I couldn't use none of that.
I couldn't go ahead and tellthe judge listen, I'm sorry, how
much is it for this to go away?
I couldn't go over there andtell the doctor hey, how much is
it for me to go ahead and curemy mom, right?

(36:59):
Oh, listen, I'm this person onsocial media.
How do we make this all go away?
Right?
And I had to go in there and Ihad to have this spiritual
battle with the devil.
I had to let him know.
At the end of the day, we'renot falling on any of this,
right, we're not drifting.
You felt like this while youwas locked up While I was locked
up and I was going through it,because a lot of the times, what

(37:22):
ends up happening, bro, is thatevery time you start doing
something good, something hard,comes up no 100%, and you have
to understand that there's abottleneck in there.
There's something in there thatis going to go ahead and make
you better, but, as long know,you stay down and you see that
light at the end of the tunneland you have faith.
I mean, think about this, bro.
How is it that, right, we fearthe devil but we don't trust our

(37:45):
god?

Speaker 2 (37:46):
no facts look yo, bro .
What's crazy about that is Iliterally was sharing out on the
stage today and I was saying Iwas saying I'm like just to
summarize it, I'm like everyonehere has a goal.
Everyone's sacrificing to be inthis room.
Everyone clearly wants to takecare of people and your family
or reach that financial you wantto reach.

(38:08):
But I had to ask him what'sholding you back for some people
?
A lot of people said fear ofprocrastination, those are
things that were echoing, and Iwas like and A lot of people
said fear, procrastination,those are things that were
echoing, yeah, and I asked him.
I was like, well, who in herebelieves in God?
Majority of the hands raised.
So I'm like how can you believein God?
But then you also can believeor have faith in the fear and
the procrastination.
I'm like both can't exist.
Yeah, Right.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
So you know what's crazy, bro?
Fear is man-made.
No, 100, fear is man-made, manmanufactured.
Jesus christ does not.
He doesn't indulge in fear.
He doesn't tell you there'sfear like.
Fear is something, is falseevidence appearing to be real.
It's something that you put inyour body, your mindset that
allows you to think that if thishappened, right, right, the

(38:54):
world would end.
But, but it hasn't happened.
And as long as you're takingmitigated risk, right, it won't
happen.
But at the same time, you haveto become a serial risk taker.
For example, people go aheadand tell me, man, like, how do I
get started, right?
Or how did you get over thishump?
Every single day, you're doingthings that are way worse than

(39:15):
you filling out your business.
Right, you may be eatingsomething right now that can
cause cancer, right you, you getin the car, you're not putting
your seat belt, you drinking anddriving you in miami you ain't
wearing helmets.
Yeah, exactly, and we all knowwhat that means, right, I don't
even know how they do it.
So, at the same time, peopletake bigger risk all the time

(39:36):
than actually starting theirbusiness.
I mean, if you think about it,there's people right now that
probably you and I both knowthat stand on the corner, do
what they do, that are willingto go ahead and do that
lifestyle versus just startingan loc because that's all they
know.
But if you think about it, Iwould rather do what I do than
do that risk Risk going to jailor getting killed.

(39:57):
And I meet so many people, bro,that unfortunately, if they
just bet on themselves, theywould be out of here.
I mean, you see people watchingthe playoffs and they're
willing to bet on you know,jalen, brunson or Halliburton or
this, but they won't bet onthemselves.
Facts you see people literallyall the time that they'll tell

(40:18):
you if they had this opportunity, if they had that opportunity,
that they would do it.
But every single day is anopportunity.
Every day you get to restart.
So it's one of those things thatI had to have, that spiritual
battle with the devil when Iwent to jail last year and I had
to tell him like yo listen, Iunderstand why I'm here.
When I went to jail last yearand I had to tell him like yo

(40:39):
listen, I understand why I'mhere, I understand that I made a
mistake, but at this point intime, just because this one
mistake happened, I still have apurpose, to be able to go ahead
and help as many people as Ican, and because I was creating
the image of God.
I'm going to make mistakes, butI'm going to go ahead and
continue to be this person thatI was brought here on earth to
do and be, and I'll move forwardfrom this and I'll be a
testament that, even thoughsuccess brings great things,

(41:01):
sometimes you can still mess up,right, but you can pick
yourself up and move forwardagain, because we're not perfect
.
And that's what I learned fromthat particular situation and
how my life started to evolve.
And it's just one of thosegreatest things, bro, that now I
mean money is a tool.
It makes things better, butthere's nothing better than

(41:22):
health being aligned with God,having the greatest
relationships that you can withthe people that you love and
care about.
There's nothing better thanthat.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
So do you feel like there was something that you got
out of that situation?
Because I'll give you anexample.
Like you shared, when thingsare going good, when you have
success, you're also going to befaced with additional
challenges.
That was a big challenge.
Now, being locked up, there's alot of things that are out of
your control.

(41:52):
Yeah, right, because you'rebasically put in there.
Yeah, you're put in there.
You don't got control on theoutcome.
Yeah, you know you, it could beextended.
You can run into differentpersonalities.
Yeah, the ceos could be actingcrazy.
Yeah, there's, there's a lot ofvariables.
Even even your faith can betested.

(42:13):
Yeah, no, everything is tested,everything is tested.
So, coming out of there, howdid it shape you with?
Like, what changed about, maybeeven your thought process?
Yeah, um, how do you approach,if you do approach, life
differently day to day?
Like, like, what, like what aresome of the intangibles that
came out of you being locked up?

Speaker 1 (42:33):
so first and foremost is understanding that, just as
quickly as God gave it to you,god can take it away, and that
if you're not having thatconversation with him on a on a
hourly, daily, weekly basis,he's gonna find a way to make
sure that you pay attention.
Yeah, right, so that was.
Number one is I felt like I wasdisaligned with my core values,

(42:54):
and I was disaligned with withmy core values within my church,
my parish and God.
Now was I attending churchoften, all the time, but was I
being intentional?
No, right.
And was I thinking that thisrun would never end?
No, I was thinking like man,I'm on my high horse.
Business is good.
Yeah, family is good.
It is what it is Like.

(43:15):
There's nothing bad going on.
There's nothing bad that canhappen, right, besides business
stuff.
So number one, it was that.
Number two was understandingthat this is just an error in my
life right now.
What I mean by that is thatBlue Notes, brandon, the persona

(43:36):
, the person, I person, I amright on social media.
This is just an error that Ihave to make sure that I'm also
building, you know, for myfuture, and what I mean by that
is spending more time with thepeople that I do love and care
about, because you understandthis, bro, being this person on
social media this is, this isgreat.
It can be crazy with time.
Yeah, you on podcasts, you onhere, you on there, bro, I

(43:59):
didn't even eat today, right,exactly.
So you know, it ends up beingthat sometimes you end up
putting people that you love onthe back burner.
You can't confuse people thatare around for people that have
always been there for you.
So I started to understand that.
You know what.
I got to take more time tofocus.
Even though I'm building thislegacy in this village for us, I
do got to pay attention to thepeople that's in the village.

(44:21):
So I started to go ahead andunderstand that, acquire more
assets.
I went ahead and upped my lifeinsurance policy Now I'm at 3
million, thank the Lord and Istarted to do things where it's
like man.
You know what, if I had to sitbehind those bars for 15 years,
besides Gucci, louis, rolexesand a bunch of followers and
cash in my bank account, whatdid I actually leave behind for

(44:44):
my family?
What things and what did Iteach people in my family to do
right?
And that's what made me focuson more so, being intentional
with the people that sometimesyou kind of get a little blind
to because you're always on thego trying to make things work,

(45:04):
you feel like your circle'ssmall.
I feel like my circle is small,but I feel like my network is
huge, if that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
No, no, that definitely makes sense.
Now, the reason why I ask youif your circle's small is
because I'm a little analytical,so I'm paying attention to
everything that you're sayingand even how you're saying it.
So I'm thinking who you'rearound or, or your or your core

(45:42):
group.
Generally speaking, it's hardto find individuals that you can
continue to be around.
That's going to sharpen eachother.
Yeah, that's on a a similar wayof alignment, maybe have
similar and or more levels ofsuccess.
That can call you out on it,but it don't change the

(46:07):
relationship.
They just holding youaccountable Exactly Right, and
it helps you become a strongerindividual.
Of course, someone that, yeah,you got locked up, but now you
can have the conversation as menand be like yo bro, I got this,
this is what I got from it andthen they can really help you
identify certain things.
So, with your circle beingsmall, do you feel like, is that

(46:31):
an advantage?
Is that a disadvantage?
As you become more successful,do you feel like, with people in
general, right, as you becomemore successful, do you feel
like, or with people in general,right, as you become more
successful, do you feel likethat circle gets smaller and
smaller and smaller, or do youfeel like it is possible to have
a larger network, notnecessarily individuals that you

(46:52):
know, but people that arereally, really close to you?
Do you feel like that can getbigger, or you feel like it's
always going to be small andmaybe even get smaller?

Speaker 1 (47:01):
No, I mean, I think that it can get bigger and I
think that the vision should beto get it bigger.
I think that a lot of the times, you know, coming from certain
areas, you don't want to expressyourself with people, you don't
want to have a big circle, youdon't want to meet new people,
of people, you don't want tohave a big circle, you don't
want to meet new people.
And, as of right now, I feellike my circle is small, but I

(47:22):
wish and would like for it toget bigger, because I want to be
around individuals, like yousaid, that can call me and hold
me accountable, that I can sayhey, man, let's go to church,
but it's also let's build abusiness together, right?
Or let's go ahead and go on adouble date, or, you know what,
let's take our kids out to goand do X, y, z.
So I think it's very importantto have both.

(47:42):
But I think it's also veryimportant to understand, you
know, what type of relationship.
It is right If it's an asset orliability.
So typically, most of the times,if you look at it, there's
either something spiritual,there's either some type of
sexual, there's some type ofrecreational relationship, and
when that piece of it goes away.

(48:03):
That's where you lose interestin that relationship.
So, you know, in high school Iwas just always like into, you
know, shoes and all of that goodstuff.
And at high school you don'treally talk to those people no
more, right?
Or let's just say that you playbasketball.
You get hurt, you stop playingbasketball, you're not going to
be hanging around those peopleas much anymore because that

(48:24):
recreational relationship now isgone, right?
Let's just say you fall in lovewith some girl and it was
mostly lust, right and thatpoint in time you start to go
ahead and do on to other things.
Well, that was more of a sexualrelationship.
So you got to understand thedifferent types of relationships
in your network and in yourinner circle and that's how you
can really identify whether thisperson is going to be with you

(48:45):
for a while because of how youalign with them.
And if it's only one of thosethings, it's probably going to
be a short-lived relationship,in my opinion.
Yeah, bro, because you could bein business with somebody,
right B?
And then that business ventureends.
Let's say, you stop podcastingand you go into something else.
You may not be talking to allthe people you're just

(49:05):
podcasting with because youwasn't spending time with them
on a daily basis doing otherthings.
It was just mostly the podcastworld, right.
But if you podcasting withsomebody but at the same time
you're a business partner withthem and then also let's just
say, you guys go to the samechurch, there's still three more
opportunities or scenes therewhere you can still align with
them and that's how you canstart to, you know, grow from

(49:26):
there.
But you know, it's really bigunderstanding like, in my sense,
right, internet relationships,personal relationships, right,
um, recreational relationships,because sometimes you can fall
trapped to these types of thingsand then you get hurt because
you didn't identify those in thebeginning.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
Rob Markman yeah, nah , I definitely.
But that makes sense to me, bro.
I can understand where you'recoming from.
I truly identify with that,because even me and maybe you
feel like this, like when you'resuccessful or if you have a

(50:12):
certain level of accomplishments, or maybe you just have an
amazing day and you don't haveanyone to share it with, or you
feel like maybe you don't haveno one to share it with because
they may not understand you yeah, or they may not understand
what you're doing, yeah, right,they can't conceive the outcome
Exactly, right.
Or there may be some jealousythere or some tendencies that

(50:37):
aren't positive or supporting towhere you want to go, or it
might just be like, yeah, bro,that's dope, but they didn't
really mean it.
You know what?

Speaker 1 (50:44):
I'm saying, yeah, that didn't mean it, they didn't
understand it.
They didn't see the work youhad to put in.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
Yeah, yeah, that's facts.
So you're doing somethingdifferent too, man, like now you
got some things going on withAI.
Yeah, yeah, yeah you know,which right now is it's the wave
.
It is, but it's not.
So.
When I say it's not, it's likepeople are paying attention to
it.
Yes, yeah, yeah, but a lot ofpeople still aren't really

(51:11):
tapped in.
Um, so, share what, share whatyou have going on with with ai
yeah and you clearly got someexcitement around it.
So so break, break that downfor us.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
Yeah.
So, like I said, man, I've beena real estate investor for
seven years now, an entrepreneur, and when I first got started I
remember my first deal, man, Iused to go ahead and go to
Staples.
I used to get the paper andthen I used to go ahead and
print it out on my computer athome.
Then I go back to Staples andcut it out.
So I would have four differentpostcards and I would go ahead
and send that out to taxdelinquent properties.

(51:42):
I would send it out to, likeprobate properties, different
types of people where we thoughtthey would be motivated to want
to sell at a discount.
And as well, at that point intime we was driving around for
dollars.
You know which is drivingaround looking for ugly houses.
Now, with AI, most of thatstuff is obsolete.
You don't really have to do alot of that stuff.
So before, when you werebasically my mentor OG, I used

(52:04):
to get with him, drive to hishouse and do all those types of
things, but sometimes he wasn'tavailable, maybe more day,
weekend or nighttime.
When you first get started, youwere just all invested into
trying to make this money.
I remember when I was soinfatuated with real estate host
land.
I used to look at every YouTubevideo, every article, and I

(52:24):
used to try to hit them up.
But now with AI bro, we have itto where we've built a mentor
for you 24 seven that will helpyou answer any question that you
need.
When it comes down to theprocess and the doing so, is it
like Blue Nose AI Basically.

(52:45):
So it's actually called the AIHost Seller and essentially I'll
kind of give you the wraparoundof how it works.
So right now we're using AI tohelp us pre-qualify leads.
So we have AI that essentially,if we have like direct mail, it
can go ahead and help youthrough text and voice
pre-qualify those leads withoutyou obviously having to
physically take those calls ortake those text messages while
you're at work.
But number two to that is, forexample, if I'm going into a
Boston market, the first thingthat I do is I teach reverse

(53:07):
wholesaling is understandingyour avatar and then finding the
deal.
Because a lot of the times Iget flooded with DMs where
people hit me up as, like yo, Igot a good deal on the contract
but nobody buys it.
Well, if nobody bought it, it'snot a good deal, right, because
something's only worth whatsomebody else willing to pay for
it.
So with now, with AIincorporated, it used to take me
about maybe 90 minutes to domarket research, understanding

(53:29):
like the hottest zip codes, cashtransactions, fixing and
flipping activity.
Now, with AI, that step can bedone in four minutes, right,
pulling the list right.
I'll give you an example.
We started wholesaling in LasVegas and I was text messaging
and I was going after I think atthe time it was maybe like

(53:49):
absentee owner Well, I didn't domy market research.
We found out that most of thepeople that live in Las Vegas
are actually older, and do olderpeople text, bro, hell, no.
So we went from texting todirect mail and cold calling and
then we went from that absenteeown list to a uh, what's called
an empty nesters or snowbirdslist, right, which is more for
elderly people.

(54:09):
And because I did my marketresearch correctly, boom, we
were able to get deals.
So now with ai, you're able togo ahead and do the market
research in minutes.
You're able to get the listthat pertains to that market in
minutes and we have it so dialedin, bro, to where now you can
even role play with the AI andit'll tell you, like out of 10,
how you did what you need towork on and it'll keep track of
how you're doing all the time.

(54:31):
You talked about creative deals, owning properties through
seller, financing, innovations,lease options subject to it can
structure the deal for you, tellyou what it's going to be in a
snapshot in the next year, 30years, exit strategies all while
you just basically being abeginner.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
What type of opportunity is that?
Because I can see from, let'ssay, users' perspective how game
changing it is.
Rob Markman yeah, rob Markman,but as a developer, what's the
opportunity for someone likeyourself?
Why are you in this space?
And then like do you feel likethere's a ceiling?
Do you feel like this is aseven, eight figure opportunity

(55:12):
or more?
Rob Markman yeah, Rob Markman.
Like, what made it soattractive?
What about the opportunity thatyou identified with that?
You was like yo, this makessense.
This makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
You probably hear this often success loves speed,
yeah, right.
And I think that once I startedto get into myself into real
estate wholesaling, it wasalways how can I go ahead and
cut overhead?
Where it comes down to, my costper lead is lower, as well as
the uh, the, the turn or theoverturn, the burn of having to
hire and fire people, becauseyou're always trying to be cost

(55:45):
effective, which is why most ofthe times, you hire people
abroad but then they end upeither stealing your leads or
not, you know, coming into workor you know, because it's it's a
it's a hard thing to cold call,right, they get, they get burnt
out, right.
So with AI, bro, ai never getstired.
Ai is always going to have thesame tonality because of the
voice you choose.

(56:05):
Ai is not going to call out onyou and they're not going to go
ahead and obviously steal yourleads.
So I think it's a greatopportunity, especially for the
people that, essentially, arelimited on time and are trying
to transition from having thatnine to five or having those
responsibilities, but want to goahead and get started and start
their own business.
And what I love about realestate, bro, is that you win in

(56:27):
life but lose on paper, right?
Because of the tax depreciation.
And let's just be real, bro,people don't buy real estate,
the rich and wealthy, we don'tbuy real estate for the $300
cashflow, right?
We buy real estate for taxdepreciation and instead of
keeping our money in the bank,we keep it in real estate
because that's just the best wayto do it.
So, if you think about it, alot of the times most people

(56:49):
want to go ahead and get started, but they think they need huge
capital, they think they need alicense, they think they need to
learn all these differentthings.
But with AI, now, you can trulydo so without having to go out
and quit your job or be able toput that family at risk because
they're relying on you becauseof that income to start your
business.
Because, if you think about it,bro, if you can go ahead and

(57:09):
just acquire five houses towhere you're cash flowing let's
just say $500 each that canreplace most minimum wage jobs,
right, yeah, and not only is itreplacing it, you have an asset,
exactly.
So now it's grown inappreciations.
Let's say you got five housesthat in 20 years or whatever,
right, the age of 56, 67,whatever it is that they say you
retire at, are each worth$100,000.

(57:31):
Most people, when they retire,have less than $200,000 in their
401k after working 40, 50 yearsin the marketplace.
Right, so I think that this isthe best way to do so and be
able to do it with velocity,because most people do not want
to get started because they'reat risk of, you know, losing
that income because they need tosurvive.
Yeah, and last, to add to that,bro, america's on sale right now

(57:53):
.
Yeah, it is like the economyand what trump is doing to try
to go ahead and offset what'sbeen happening Right now.
Real estate is going to take ahit for it, but I think this is
what needs to happen for therates to go down and there's
going to be a huge opportunityand a transfer of wealth to be
able to go ahead and pick upthese properties at 30, 40 cents

(58:14):
on the dollar Fire sale.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
Exactly In certain areas 100%.
Yeah, yeah, 40 cents on adollar fire sale.
Exactly in in certain areas 100.
Yeah, yeah, I like, I like whatyou got going on, bro.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
like you're, you're diversifying but at the same
time you're staying in thevertical you have to, bro,
because when you're not focusedon one thing, um, that's, that's
how you get flustered.
Yeah, and that's what the devilwants.
Going back to outwitting thedevil, bro, most people that
aren't successful, most peoplethat are just essentially, let's

(58:47):
just say that every single day,that day-to-day life, that
day-to-day grind, they're therebecause they cannot make a
decision to stick to it.
If you think about women andhow long they spend trying to
just choose an outfit, justimagine if they got paid hourly
for that, right.
If you think about just men andhow they think about, well, you
know what, maybe I'll do themilitary, but you know what.
I seen this guy talking aboutdrop shipping.

(59:08):
Or you know what?
I saw this guy talking aboutToro.
And they're not making thedecision on a career choice.
All that time, that's what thedevil wants you to do.
Time, that's what the devilwants you to do.
So once you stick to one thing,that one thing can allow you to
go ahead and become a million.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
You don't need the seven streams of income.
I think nowadays, withtechnology, access to resources
and information, like you said,people want to share.
You can go on youtube,obviously, chat, gbt, instagram,
tiktok.
People give you information.
They, they want, they want youto have it, yeah, so now there's

(59:46):
really no excuse.
It's really just up to if you,you know if that person really
wants to execute or not.
Yeah, and and to your point,they're going to be focused on
that one thing instead of beinglike all over the place.
Yeah, you, you know what I'msaying.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
Can I add to that?
Yeah, so I think thatinformation right now is coming
at lightning speeds.
But people have to alsounderstand that free information
is kind of like Ikea it's notgoing to come with the batteries
, it's not going to come withthe screwdriver.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
It's going to come with that terrible instruction
it's going to give you steps onethrough five and then seven and
eight are missing and thenyou're going to get nine and ten
, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
And then 15, the manual is literally watered down
to where you don't know what todo next.
100%, and that's why you haveto get a mentor.
Yeah, right, if you understandthat every shortcut has a hidden
fee.
It has that fine print thatyou're going to pay for it.
Right, and we always understand.
Right, you either pay with timeor you pay with money.
What people don't understand isthat time is in that like it's

(01:00:39):
so valuable you can never get itback.
And as long as I can trademoney, yeah, bro, right, and
that's what I really understood.
Right, you talked about when didyou realize that you became a
man and what was that turningpoint?
I realized also that I became atrue business owner when I
understood that things wasactually an investment, not an
expense.
Yeah for sure, when I firststarted, I'd be like, damn, hold

(01:00:59):
on.
I got to spend $2,000 on ads,then I got to pay to do $5,000
to run it.
Damn, there's no shortcut forthis.
There's no way I could finessea 30%, 40%.
You got to understand, bro, forthat little business owner and
you to die and you become theCEO, you have to be able to
graduate and say you know what?
I'm willing to trade this thatthey print every single day for

(01:01:22):
some services that can allow meto scale.
That's something that mostpeople won't do, bro, because
they're scared of winning.
That's what I've noticed.
The pressure of winning isactually harder than being broke
, because you got toconsistently do this every
single day.
Most people now, like peoplethat I know close friends,
family.
I had somebody hit me up today.

(01:01:43):
They're like oh man, where youat?
Now I'm in Miami, I'm doing Iwas at a mastermind, now I'm
doing a podcast.
It's just regular to them.
It's regular to them To otherpeople.
It's like they're like man, Iwant to be doing what he's doing
.
To others it's like, okay, he'sbeen winning, there's there's
no way to catch up to him, right?
So it's like lebron being inthe league 20 years.

(01:02:03):
If you see him go below adouble, he do 10 points.
We all gonna be like lebron.

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
Lebron scored 10 points or or he didn't score no
points, oh he didn't score nopoints, yeah right.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
So the pressure of winning sometimes I think that
people don't date, thatresponsibility is huge for them.
But I'll tell you this, man Iwouldn't trade this for nothing
in the world.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
So as we close out, bro, what's, um, I mean, bro,
you, you, you really hit on alot, to be honest.
Yeah, you know, you know what Imean, but what?
What's like one or two thingsthat if someone had to take
something from me, let's saythey didn't really watch the
whole part, but you canencapsulate it in just this

(01:02:52):
moment, right here.
What's one or two things thatyou feel like people really need
to receive if they want to havesome success or just change
whatever they got going on rightnow.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
That's a great question.
I'll leave it with a statement.
Bro, it doesn't take a longtime to make a lot of money.
It just takes a long timebecoming a person willing to do
it, and for me, thankfully, itdidn't take a long time.
And some people it never comes.
So what I would tell people isto make sure that that book of

(01:03:28):
your life is a good read,because one day somebody is
going to go ahead and look backand be like, yeah, I don't want
to read this book, right?
So that's what I would say, manis just put your all effort
into this and I'm from Queens,new York.
Get rich without trying.
I mean, what else can youreally?
What else is there to honestlydo?

(01:03:49):
Because money rules the worldand it's unfortunate, right Like
when my mom was in the hospitalif she didn't have health
insurance, they would havekicked her out.
If I was an entrepreneur, youimagine me being there working
two jobs, going to communitycollege for four months, every
single day, visiting my mom.
You think they would have keptme.
You think they would have beenlike it's okay, we'll let you

(01:04:10):
keep your jobs, we won't failyou out of college.
They would have fired me.
Nobody's here to save us.
When you buy that charger,right that you can't leave the
car lot without car insurance,but when you are born, you can
leave without health and lifeinsurance tracks.
It goes to show that nobody'shere to save us.
They don't really care about us.
It's our job to make sure thatwe leave a footprint in this

(01:04:32):
earth by how we treat people andhow we do things, and make sure
that we impact lives and leaveour families and our next
generation in a better position.
So that's what I would say.
If you didn't watch the wholething, you should go back and
watch it, though.

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
Yo, I would definitely agree.
I would, if you just catch itright now, hit that button,
start this Jones over, becausewe definitely went in with a lot
of Jones right here.
What's one thing you want toask me?

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
Honestly, one thing I wanted to ask you, bro, was I
feel like you're very composedand I feel like you have a lot
of control over your life, and Ifeel, like many people, they're
flustered, they're anxious,they don't know how to do that
right.
They don't know how to do that,they don't know how to keep at
bay outside and inside.

(01:05:23):
They don't have control overanything.
So I wanted to ask you it seemslike you kind of mastered that
how did you get to that point?
Were you always like that?
That's a great question.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
I don't think no one's ever asked me that.
Definitely was not always likethis, but it goes back to me
wanting to become the bestversion of me.
I remember I was dating thisColombian woman when I was
younger, probably within my 20s,maybe 21 or 24.
And prior to that relationship,I was through a lot of death my

(01:05:58):
mom passed, dad passed,grandmother passed.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
Sorry to hear that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
Uncle, great grandmother, everyone passed.
So I became numb to death.
So I was holding on to it.
And then I didn't have anyonein my life that I could share
and I didn't have the guidanceto know how to properly process
the emotions and express.
So I held it all in and I wasdoing things to kind of help me

(01:06:21):
process and help me heal.
But I was still holding it allin.
So I used to take a lot of myemotions out, not necessarily
just on her, and it wasn't likea domestic situation.
I just couldn't control.
I had a lot of rage, I had alot of anger, you didn't know
why, and I just couldn't controlit.
So we would get into stupidarguments, bro.
It'd be about nothing.
And then I'd go take her phone,throw it in the forest you know

(01:06:42):
what I'm saying.
Or she'd be at my crib and shelived in Rhode Island at the
time and I remember one day itwas raining.
I went downstairs I've beenhere with windshield wipers, bro
, so she couldn't wipe the rainoff the windshield.
I just couldn't control myself.
And then other times, whetherit was, let's say, I got in an

(01:07:03):
argument with someone, I wouldlose it.
You know what I mean, yeah, Iremember punching the wall a
couple times no emotionaldiscipline at all.
But I knew as soon as I got donewith that rage that I was wrong
, yeah Right.
So I would meet and this isbefore I knew God, but I had a

(01:07:23):
relationship with God, but Iwould speak to God and I'd be
like yo, god, I got to controlmyself, help me to control
myself.
You know what he did?
Put me in another situation,just like that.
Yeah, and guess what I did?
Same, thing, same thing youknow what he did.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
Put me another situation, just like that.
Yeah, guess what I did?

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
same thing, same thing, because you don't know,
because I don't, I didn't knowthat, you don't know.
That's how he's testing youexactly.
I'm like in my mind, I'm likefix me, yeah you know what I'm
saying, but he, he.
This is how he's, this is how hefixed me yeah so, and once I
got a little bit moreself-awareness, then I was like,
all right, I messed, god Giveit to me again, yep, but I was
more aware.

(01:08:01):
So then eventually I was ableto control myself.
And I don't know where I readthis, but I did read this.
And they were saying the manthat is the strongest is the one
that has the most emotionalcontrol in situations that are
heightened.

(01:08:21):
Facts, and there's been several, so so in my mind I'm like,
okay, I can draw back which oneof the most detrimental
situation death yeah right.
So I've been through so much ofit.
It's like almost I masteredthat emotion.
So when I was able to finallyprocess it and go from numb to
um, um, you know, regret andbitterness, to be able to heal

(01:08:43):
from that, everything else waseasier bro so car accident.
Like, okay, for example, Iscratched my car a couple of
days ago.
It's my fault, you know.
I'm saying I never even tappedmy whip, but I tapped it and I
just laughed.
Like I'm like, yeah, becausewhen I do I'm gonna get upset

(01:09:05):
about that, yeah, right.
Or or, or you know, um, I gotan argument with someone or you
know earlier about somethingthat was small, but like,
because it's like if I get upsetabout something, the problem
still persists.
Yeah, but now I just createdanother problem, yeah, right.

(01:09:26):
So for me, everything iseverything is small.
Yeah, everything's small.
So you make it big.
When you make it big, you stillgot that same problem you gotta
deal with, but now you gottafix the other problem and that
might lead to something bigger.
Yeah, right, because now itmight change the direction of a
relationship or may may add morestress.
Yeah, or.
Or, you know, maybe if you can'tcontrol your emotions, maybe

(01:09:48):
maybe that that gets you to eat.
Yeah, maybe your emotional eatit.
So it may lead to to differentthings.
So for me, it it's, it's justbeen, it's been a challenge over
time and now it's just easy,bro, cause I'm like, if I get
upset or if I let that bother me.
What else is gonna happen, youknow.

(01:10:10):
But yeah, that's pretty goodthat you've identified that and
I think it's cool.
That's why I asked you aboutthe circle, because it's like we
have that circle, you can trustpeople to actually share things
with you.
You know, directly, indirectly,consciously, subconsciously and

(01:10:31):
beyond.
So then now you can eithersharpen that up, work on it or
go get another tool or resourceso you can just be better.
Of course, sharpens iron.
Yeah, yeah, so that's my answerfor that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:44):
That was a good answer, man.
It's a good quality to master.

Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
Yeah, for sure.
What you got for the people,bro.
I mean you got so many thingsthat you're working on.
I mean, you're a master in yourspace.
You got so many things thatyou're working on.
I mean, you know you're amaster in your space.
You got something new thatyou're working on.
That's also a tool, a resource.
What's the best way someone cantap in with you and what do you
actually have for them?

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
Yeah, I mean honestly , at this current moment, the
best way would be throughInstagram, at Blue Notes,
brandon, same thing on YouTube,and it's really just helping
people.
You helping people get startedin real estate using AI, and I
think that's a journey that isgoing to be a continuous journey
, because I think that AI is thefuture and I'm really excited

(01:11:30):
to see what it's going totranspire, to be like in the
next five years, in the nextyear.
I think it's developing so fastthat, as things go on, it's
just going to be crazy.
So, um, as of right now, we'rehelping people obviously get
their first deal or scale theirreal estate business using ai.
Uh, to do most of the work and,um, I'm frequently having at
this current moment, you know,uh, master classes, free classes

(01:11:53):
, obviously, showing people howto get started.
So you know, that's, that'sbasically the biggest thing.
Um, there's obviously alwaysbeen little ventures here and
there that I've always wanted tojump into because I'm like man
that looks like a good moneygrab, but I've started to
understand that not all money isgood money, right, and that
real estate is my true callingand I just love it.
I think that, at the end of theday, your favorite guru.
He's making all this moneyonline, but he got to spend it

(01:12:16):
in real estate because of taxesanyways, right?
So real estate is the best wayto go, in my opinion.
It's king, and that's how we'regoing to continue to help
people, bro.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
If they wanted to tap into that masterclass
immediately, how would they getthere?

Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
Yeah, I mean they could just go ahead and click
the link in my bio, so you wantthem to go to Instagram.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Go to my Instagram.
Click the link in my bio andjust tap in right then and there
, or just let me know.
Hey, I saw you on the pod.
I like what you got going on.
How can I connect with you?

Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
Very, very simple, yeah, yeah yeah, and if y'all
want his fit, definitely sendhim a DM.

Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
Be like yo, the real estate thing right now, do not
grab the fit.
And this is just a real quickdisclaimer, man, because I
always got kids, young guys.
They always come up to me andsay, man, you dripped out of you
this.
You that I wouldn't really bewearing all of this if I wasn't
in this line of business.
If I was that one CEO,accountant bro that just worked
for a big firm and made goodmoney, I wouldn't aspire to want
to have a Lamborghini.

(01:13:15):
I wouldn't aspire to wear likestuff like this because at the
end of the day, like I said,this is an eyeball game, this is
a game of the marketing.
Spending, you know, four or5,000 on a Louis V suit is not
the best return unless you inthis line of business.
You know what I'm saying.
So but yeah, I do like stayingfresh.
I mean, it's funny, it's alittle side note.
Right, I was talking about Uberdriver and we were talking

(01:13:39):
about how you know, as you startto understand your place in
business and entrepreneurship,you start to level up right.
As far as you know, you'regetting your nails clipped right
, staying nice and ready andfresh and fit, but mostly
getting a nice watch right.
And I always remember likepeople were like, man, once you
get a nice watch, a nice watch,you know everybody, that's how
you identify.

(01:14:00):
And uh, it's been dope.
But now my big wave has beencologne.
So now, when I wear nicecologne man, I get guys asking
me yo, what you wearing?
And then you get women, and nowI'm able to go ahead and start
conversations off of thatcologne, because the first thing
I say is, oh, I'm wearing creed, I'm wearing Creed, or I'm
wearing Louis, or I'm wearingGivenchy, and they're like, oh

(01:14:21):
damn, he wearing 500-lakhcologne.
What he do, yeah, facts.
So what I would tell you is,before you get this suit, man,
make sure that you well cutclean.
But, most importantly, getyourself some nice cologne,
because people are going to askyou, and when they ask you and
they're going to ask you whatyou're doing, At that point in
time that's how you can solve aproblem.

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
So, yo, we got another show, so we're going to
bring B back for the other show.
We'll tap into the cologne.
Matter of fact, you shouldbring some bottles.

Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
Oh, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:14:49):
You know what I'm saying?
Bring some bottles.
We got something special fory'all.
It'll be a part two, but notreally because it's going to be
a whole different part Scheme, awhole different scheme.
But today's been fire.
Make sure you guys tap in.
Follow my Instagram, bro, and Iappreciate you for making the
time.

Speaker 1 (01:15:05):
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