Shabazz the OG | Does Accountability Really Matter? - ON THE PURSUIT PODCAST (PRST)

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the Honor Pursuit Podcast, where we
connect with entrepreneurs,movers, shakers and business
owners who've built amazingthings on the pursuit of their
goals and dreams.
And I'm your host, brendan Boyd.
What's up y'all?
Welcome to another episode ofthe Honor Pursuit Podcast.
We connect with six, seven,eight-figure entrepreneurs.
I like to share their storieswith you.

(00:24):
We figure out what's going onwith them, what helped them to
get to this success and thelessons that you could take from
them so you can get to yoursuccess a little bit faster.
On today's episode we haveShabazzie OG, and this
individual is someone that wemet in passing.
You know what I'm saying?
We got a mutual friend but atthe same time we met, met in
passing, and after our firstconversation, bro, we was in the

(00:46):
street kind of going at likewhat like 30 minutes or
something.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yeah, maybe 30, 40 minutes, one of them days
somebody was able to get me outthe house.
Yeah, you don't come out thehouse much.
Nah, not enough.
It got to stay there, enjoy theamenities and all that.

(01:16):
No, no, for real you know I'vebeen in the crib more, but you
know lauren was able to get meout the house that day for that,
for that event.
And you know, in true fashion,normally when I come outside
it's fruitful.
Yeah, you know what I'm sayingBecause, like you said I'm
intentional with where I go andtypically the places I frequent.
You know something is extracted.

(01:37):
You know when I leave Somethingbeneficial.
Yeah, like sitting here.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Shout out to Lauren For real man.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, official,yeah, like sitting here shout
out to lauren for real man yeah,she made this happen.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
She's making a lot of moves happen and stuff like
that.
Miss westerman, yeah, for real.
Um, so what's going on with thebook, bro, you know?

Speaker 1 (01:52):
um, so one thing's for sure, right and when we met
I was like yo send me the linkright off the rip I was like you
got a book, send me the linkright.
Yeah, absolutely, grab the bookimmediately.
I haven't had a chance to todive in it because since we uh,
connected, I've been on the road.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
I ain't really right home, right right but it made it
to the crib.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
No that's cool once I get to the crib, I'll be able
to get into it.
So, so what?
What is this book really about?
What's going on in the book?

Speaker 2 (02:19):
um, if you flip it over and you look at the top in
the back, the top paragraph forthe top, yeah, the top paragraph
, you're going to learneverything the hard way because
you don't listen.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
It's what I remember my mother telling me when I was
seven years old and to this day,no words have proven to be more
accurate than those.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
That's the foundation of the book.
The foundation of the book ismy life experiences from what my
mother said, from beinghardheaded being hardheaded, not
listening, doing things the wayI wanted them to be done versus
accepting guidance, beingobedient to my mother and

(03:02):
authority.
You know, I grew up with her Iwouldn't say a lack of respect
for authority.
But now that I'm an adult,looking back to being a kid and
a child and a young man and ateenager and all that, things
had to resonate with me from asensible perspective and like in
my life now, if something don'tmake sense, sense, it's just

(03:23):
hard for me to receive it oraccept it.
Which lets me know why I was sohard-headed.
Because we forget kids are justsmaller, unlearned, uneducated
version of adults.
Yeah, so our, our, our dna isOur opinions are formed, us as

(03:44):
individuals are formed.
We just haven't matured intothat formation, right.
So I look back and realize as akid I'm bucked so much because
it didn't make sense to me Someof the things my mother said to
do you feel like it didn't makesense?

Speaker 1 (04:01):
It didn't make sense to you because you were young,
you didn't understand as of yet.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Not only that, it went.
It went against what I wanted.
Got you you know what I'm saying, so like when you're reading
the book.
When my mother, when I was five, and she took my guns and my
cowboy suit and my cowboy hatand put it in the trash because
she had become a Jehovah'sWitness, and I came home from

(04:29):
school and just like that, lifehad changed for me and I'm like,
where's my guns, where's mypants, where's my like?
What?
What's going on?
What's happening?
Where is?
And she said it's in the trash.
So I went in the trash and tookit out, but then she took it
back and put it's in the trash.
So I went in the trash and tookit out, but then she took it
back and put it back in thetrash and was like you know,
jehovah don't like guns.

(04:50):
And I'm like, oh, who is?
Who is Jehovah?
Like what's going on?
Like you know what I'm saying,like so that was the beginning
of something that my motheraccepted as a religion for her
life that impacted mine.
I was I come from a family ofathletes.
On my father's side, I wasnaturally good at football,

(05:12):
naturally good at basketball,naturally good at like anything
that I did sports wise, I wasgood at.
But because of this religionthat my mother accepted for
herself and me being her child,and then she went on to have
more children.
We had to receive what mymother had accepted.
But again, it impacted my lifebecause, based on based on the

(05:33):
conditions of the religion,there's certain things that
you're not allowed to do.
Playing sports at that time inmy life was one of them.
I couldn't play sports, mymother didn't allow it, you know
, because the religion didn'tallow it.
And I said I'm saying so.
It was like those kind ofthings created rebellion To the

(05:54):
point where it's like when youstart to feel confined and you
don't feel like you're doinganything wrong, you're just
going with who you naturally are.
I naturally, like women, I'vebeen flirting and since I was
five you understand what I'msaying.
Six years old, I had my firstcrush.
So it's like this is who I amby nature and it's all being

(06:17):
constricted.
I can't wiggle, I can't be whoI'm naturally am.
So it created this rebellion.
So by the time I was 17, it wasup I'm doing what I want to do,
I don't care what you say, youcan beat me.
And at 18, I was put out.
You understand me.
So you know.
That's the foundation of thisbook.

(06:38):
A lot of things I should havelistened to, but because I
didn't listen, I had certainexperiences being in the street,
street, being in dangeroussituations, you know, going to
prison, uh, bad relationships,bad relationship choices, bad
relation, bad decisions withinrelationship structures.
So, like I learned, I did.

(07:00):
I did exactly what she said.
I learned everything the hardway, but learned, which is why
I'm able to speak the way Ispeak today to the people that I
speak to and garnered so mucheffectiveness because it's
authentic and it's genuine,because I'm not.
I'm not talking about somethingthat came from research.
I'm not talking about somethingthat I Google.

(07:20):
You know something that I readin a book or saw in a
documentary.
Like everything in that book, Ireally lived it and now I'm
able to share it, you know, withour culture, with our society,
with our young adults, with ouryounger, with the older adults
and all the way down toteenagers and adolescents.
You know, because I'mresonating with everybody from
the age of as low as nine to 65,you know.

(07:45):
So you know it was a lot.
It was a hard lessons that Ilearned through life, but I
wouldn't trade any of it in, soto speak, because it all made me
who I am.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
What do you feel like one of the hardest lessons that
you learned?

Speaker 2 (08:00):
the hard way where you feel like Going to prison.
That was the hardest one.
That was the hardest onebecause long did you log down
for?
Uh, 14 months.
But I tell people all the timewhat I learned about, what I
learned about prison issometimes it's not about the
amount of time you do is theconditions you endure.
I endured like unorthodox.

(08:23):
I was in six differentfacilities.
I was in the hole for twomonths.
I've heard violence occurring.
The hole is solo confinement.
Yeah, so it depends on thefacility and what you're in the
hole for.
So I was up Broadway, so I wasin the hole for.

(08:45):
So I was in um, I was upbroadway, so I was in the hole
in the broadway.
Now that was a two-man cell.
But what the first week I wasthere was in a one man cell.
Then, when they moved me downthe hall and I was in the
two-man cell.
But sometimes you either,though you want a two-man cell,
you can still be by yourself.
But the way it's set up is.
You know, you might have heardpeople make the reference belly

(09:09):
of the beast.
You're really like in thebasement of the jail and but
it's a, it's a guard there.
It's like maybe 14 cells, ashower and very little lighting.
So it's dense conditions.
You know what I'm saying.
But you can have at least onecellmate or you could, you know,

(09:31):
be there by yourself.
So my time was broken upbetween having two cellmates and
then some of the time I was bymyself.
What's that mindset like?
Because you go in there, righta certain way.
Then you got to endure thoseconditions, but then you got to
have a certain mindset.
So when you get out, or evenjust to endure that, well, for

(09:54):
me the biggest challenge wasnever having been away before
under those conditions.
I had been locked up before Ihad been in the county, you know
I had, you know, been in theprecincts, but never had.
I didn't that I did.
I have to go upstate and I'mgrateful that I didn't have to

(10:17):
do five years, 10 years, sevenyears.
You know things like thatbecause, being there in that
period of time, even though whenI came home, you know you still
are adjusting to Life andRemembering those conditions,

(10:39):
remembering how much you hatedit, remember how much you don't
want to go back, but then youstill, you still want to get to
the fast paper, you're stillhustling, you're still doing
things that can actually singyou back to something that you
absolutely detested, so beingthere.
You endure the disrespect fromthe CEOs.

(11:01):
You endure the loneliness.
You endure the you knowunfamiliar personalities, that
you have to learn who tointeract with and who not, you
know.
That's why the safest bet is tomind your business and stay in
your lane.
And you know so, being there,the conditions weren't so bad,

(11:24):
but it was just the lack offreedom, and people can can play
with your freedom.
People can talk to you any kindof way that they want, because
they know that they had a powerto increase this sentence.
Or like when I was in theassessment center, which is kind
of like a halfway house, when Iwas almost home just kind of

(11:45):
like a halfway house when I wasalmost home there was a guy who
was just deliberatelyantagonistic towards people
because he knew, like if you getin trouble here, they could
send you back to the prison andthen you don't get no parole,
you got to do the rest of yourtime, like when they know they.
So these kinds of people, whenthey have issues at home, you
know their wife cheating or they, they girl don't love them no
more, their kids don't respectthem and they get to come in

(12:07):
there, act a fool with usbecause they got our freedom in
their hands.
Yeah, you know that bothered memore than anything just being in
a, because remember growing upI don't like being told what to
do.
But now I'm in a situationwhere not listening can increase
the hold that somebody got onmy freedom.
So that was the.

(12:27):
That was more of the disdainwith it for me what were?

Speaker 1 (12:33):
what were the um the?

Speaker 2 (12:35):
decisions that uh led you to go to prison, right?

Speaker 1 (12:40):
and then when did you realize, like yo this?

Speaker 2 (12:43):
is it like?
What was that hard pivot?
You was like yo, I ain't goingback, this is, I'm changing.
Um, I used to have a real thingfor guns man.
I was, I went, I went, I went.
I finally went to prison for uh, for gun possession.
But I had many arrests for gunsprior to actually going to
prison for it, because I went toprison in Jersey but I'm from

(13:06):
Philly, so I got locked up withguns in Philly, so much, but it
always resulted in probation.
So I never went to prison inPhilly.
But when I got locked up inJersey with a gun Jersey off the
road the law was different.
Not necessarily the law wasdifferent.

(13:27):
They saw my jacket.
Oh yeah, ok, gotcha.
And I had three open gun cases.
At one time I got locked upwith a gun, went to jail, out on
bail, got locked up withanother gun while I'm out on
bail for that gun.
Then I get locked up again outon bail.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
So I'm out on bail on three gun cases at the same
time, were you getting caughtwith the guns the same way, like
how are you?

Speaker 2 (13:55):
The first gun I got caught.
The first gun I got caught with, I got profiled.
I was in West Fully, was I was.
I was in West Philly, I'm 46and walk across the street while
I was hustling that, and thecops, you know they used to have
this thing where they there's a, there's a, there's there's a.

(14:17):
It is a case called Terryversus Ohio where it was argued
that police can't say I saw his,there was a bulge in his shirt
or a bulge in his pants andthat's why I stopped him, like a
lot of my.
I think one of my closestfriends beat a case like that
and other people beat a caselike that, but that's why they

(14:38):
stopped me.
They said they saw a bulge andwhen they snatched me the bulge
was bulging, you know.
so the balls is really aboutyour the bulge is really a boys.
They did miss bulge, you know.
I mean I had a big 357 on meand um got locked up for that.
I don't bail.
One day I'm gonna pay phone andI don't see the cops coming by.

(15:06):
The time I saw him it was toolate because I got.
I got a gun on me.
But again, I'm not doinganything.
I'm on the corner, I'm on thepay phone and they come across
the street, the opposite, theycoming from that way but they
pull up on the opposite side ofthe block, right where I was,
and jump out on me and just patme down.
I'm strapped, you know what I'msaying.
Like I'm not doing nothing, I'mnot interacting with nobody,

(15:33):
I'm by myself and jammed.
Again, that's the second one.
The third one I'm on the cornerout southwest Philly me, some
other guys, again strapped, butthis time I got her.
So the first time I had the.357, the second time I had the
.38.
This time Igot her.
I got a MAC-11 on me.
I got a MAC-11.
Like, I was good with carryingguns.

(15:56):
I knew how to conceal them good.
Like it was easy for me tocarry them because of the way I
dressed and because of the way Itucked them this time something
happened and everybody ran.
So I'm on foot and the copschasing me, but I was so far
ahead of them I was able to getthe clip out my sock and throw

(16:18):
them, because the clip I had along clip, I had like a 32 shot
clip.
So the clip wasn't in the gun,the clip was in my sock.
So you know, if you know what aMAC looks like, mac-11s are
like MACs are like flat.
They're not like the Tech-9with the round barrel, it's like
flat.
So it's like it was real smoothand you could tuck it.
But when they caught me, Ipulled the gun out and just held

(16:43):
it in the air because they waschasing me on foot, couldn't
catch me, but they cut me off inthe car.
But when they got the gun theydidn't have no bullets, they
didn't haveno clip.
But this was one time I thoughtthe cops was going to beat me
up, but they did their job.
Like the guy was out of breath,he was laughing.
The cop was like okay, you know, know you, okay, you outran me,

(17:09):
but we got you like he.
They wasn't on no bs with me,you know.
I'm saying and you know, and,and that was the third, that was
, that was my third gun case andyou know, my lawyer ended up
getting all the casesconsolidated into one and you
know, and that's how I got theprobation one probation for all
those cases.
But what wound up happening inthe end?

(17:29):
Like you say, what was thepivot?
I'm gonna be honest B it reallywasn't one, it was more.
So I followed the direction ofmy life and I just didn't go
against the grain.
So when I started to realizethings was changing for me, when
I started to realize I wasdoing good without risking my
freedom, when I started torealize I was doing good without

(17:49):
taking penitentiary chances, itkind of just like it evolved in
06, a drug case, but the copstook money, never came to court,
you understand.
So I beat the case.

(18:10):
So that was my lastarrest, 2012.
On two separate occasions I hadlarge amounts of money on me in
the airport and the um tsa,yeah, tsa called.
So you know when tsa, you knowum, stops you for a large amount

(18:34):
of money, uh, dea comes.
Well, dea came for me because Igot stopped in carolina and I
got stopped in san francisco.
Both times it was DEA who cameand took the money.
But if I knew now what I knew,then they never would have got
that bread either time.
Neither time would they havegotten the money.
But at the time, the first time, it was like $110,000.

(18:58):
And the lawyer told me like wewas going to try to get the
money back.
But then, like 30 days later, Igot stopped again on the West
Coast and it was like 63,000.
So like in a 30-day period,these people done took almost
200 grand from me,almost $175,000.
And he, like I don't know whatyou're doing, but whatever it is

(19:19):
, stop, because eventuallyyou're going to open a money
laundering case against yourselfand it's going to affect you
and whoever's around you.
Because you got the cash,you're trying to load it,
because I'm traveling with thiskid.
But see again, it's so trickywhen it comes to the money in
the airports because a lot ofpeople don't know you can carry
as much money as you want in theairport, domestically, as you

(19:41):
want, as long as you're notleaving the country.
If I wanted to walk, if Iwanted to go to Miami
International right now with ahalf a ticket to go to Vegas and
gamble, trick off whatever Iwant to do with 500 bands, I can
do that, it'snot illegal.
If they stop me in the airportand say, what are you doing with

(20:05):
all this money, I could cursethem out, I could tell them to
call whoever you want to call,because if I can suffice for the
money, that's the part wherepeople don't understand.
If I can suffice for the money,they can't take it.
They can prolong, they candetain you, they can question
you and even if they take it,they won't have to give it back
if you can suffice for it.
But they so used to people notbeing able to suffice for the

(20:26):
money because most times it isdrug money.
So they done got comfortablejust taking people bread.
They will never take a dollarfrom you.
They don't give it back.
No, they don't give it back.
What do they do with the money?
What you think they do with it?
I'm just saying, bro, they justout here just taking all this.
They take people money.
They keeping it.
That's crazy.
They keeping because this,think about it.

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If you don't endure, you getcaught in the airport.
You got a hundred bands and youknow you can't prove where you
got it from.
You didn't get locked up, yougot away with your freedom.
You don't care that they tookthe money.
You didn't get a lot, you gotit.
It's a hundred thousand.
Like you, y'all got it.
It's $100,000.
Like they didn't take you, theytook the money.

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Now what they do with itremains to be seen.
But my guess is they're goingto divvy that up, because why
wouldn't they?
It's undocumented.
Y'all say hell of a Fridayfellas, but that's really how it
would be, because the case Icaught in 06, that's what they
did.
I mean I had like little 8,800on me, like 9,000.
But when you know, when you getlocked up I don't know if

(21:28):
you've ever been arrested beforewhen you go on your property
receipt, they have to documentwhatever they took from you.
So I knew I had $8,800 on me,but on the, when they on my
property receipt with my walletand my shoelaces and every my
wife, whatever day they tookfrom me.
The money was 2,800, so theytook 6,000, you know, and this

(21:51):
was like January 5th or 6th, soI'm like, okay, they got their
Christmas money back and thenthey never came to court, you
know.
So I ended up in the case.
So, you know, like cops iscrooks man, like cops is crooks
man.
You know cops is crooks too.
But again, it's a game.
You know that you have to knowhow to play.
When you're out there playingit, and I just, you know, life
just got to a place where itjust was no longer worth it to

(22:15):
me.
So back in 2012, when, when,when, when the lawyer told me
that he was like look man, he'slike you.
You know you don't want, youdon't want, you don't want these
problems, but then I reallydidn't want the problems.
But I really didn't want theproblems, you know, for my
friends, because I'm stillaround my guys, that's in the
street.
I still got street dudes aroundme.
That's getting, you know, theyriding big, they.

(22:37):
You know they they heavy.
So you know, I don't want toput nobody in jeopardy based on
what I'm doing and what I'mgetting caught up in.
So that was kind of like reallythe beginning of the end of me,
like just completelytransitioning into letting my

(22:57):
natural talents, my gift ofinteraction, my gift of how I
deal with people, just me who Iam as an individual, just
started to take precedence overmy life and became beneficial,
and the more that happened, theless I had to cater to the
street.

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When did you realize you havethose, those gifts?

Speaker 2 (23:41):
and talents because, like uh, connecting uh
communication and um, just justbeing someone that that can
develop.
Obviously, relationships, thoseare, those are heavy skills the
relationship, the networking,the relationship building and
the relationship nurturing.
Yeah, that's been me.
I've been that.
That's why I survived thestreets, because I've always

(24:04):
been loyal about all.
I've always been genuine, I'vealways been trustworthy.
So even when I was outside,even when I was doing wrong, I
was doing right.
You understand what I'm saying.
Like I could be trusted, yeahwith work you was in the wrong
environment, but you were stillyeah, I still had a moral
compass.
I was you know I'm saying I was.
I was a guy who, if I was onyour team, you was comfortable.
I was.
I was a guy who, if I was onyour team, you was comfortable.

(24:25):
You knew.
You knew he.
You know you knew you dealingwith somebody trustworthy.
You knew you're dealing withsomebody loyal.
You know if you had to leavesomething with somebody, you can
leave it with me.
You know that's so thenetworking and the and and and
and the moral compass.
You know that always was me.
17 years old is when I first gotintroduced to the entertainment

(24:47):
business through a radiostation internship.
So I've always, from a youngage, been around celebrities.
I've always, since a young age,been been in, you know, uh,
what we'll call the upperechelon rooms.
I've been around people.
So that then started.
What wound up happening is,over the course of years and

(25:08):
times, I built all of theserelationships.
So my music industry,entertainment industry
relationships have been nurturedand nourished since I was 17
years old, up to now.
Up to now.

(25:28):
So, once social media came intoplay and then I started to share
my life story, started to sharemy life perspective on social
issues, social networks, andonce I started sharing my input
and my perspectives, peoplegravitating towards it.
Now it's like who is this guyman, let me ask.
So now I'm getting peopleasking me my advice on things.
Now I'm getting people tellingme yo man, what you said today

(25:50):
really hit home with me.
Now I'm getting women asking meI mean, I got a teenage son man
, his father, not in his life.
What advice could you give me?
Then I got young dudes askingme for advice for themselves.
So now who I am, what I'vealways been, has morphed into
something beneficial to ourculture.
Yeah, and to answer yourquestion, it was realized

(26:12):
probably 2016 when I realizedI'm on to something with this
whole approach to how I engageon this social platform and it
ultimately worked out intopeople understanding this guy's
really authentic.

(26:33):
He's not on the internet justsaying what people want to hear
because it sounds good for likesand views.
Like when they see me on theinternet, then it's like see me
in real life.
It's like, okay, that matches,it goes together.
I've even had internet.
Then it's like see me in reallife, it's like, okay, that
matches, it goes together.
I've even had people and thiswas another this was another
time that I really started to belike okay, I like how this is

(26:57):
going.
I had at that time it was likemaybe three different people and
it was so crazy.
Three different people messagedme on three different occasions
and basically said the sameexact thing, which was I've been
watching you for X amount oftime.
Each one shared how much timethey had been watching.

(27:17):
One was a couple of years, onewas a few months and I think
another was about a year or so.
But each individual separatelysaid I've been watching you.
I never comment on your page.
This all happened in the DM.
I never commented on your page,but I've always watched you and
I've waited to see when you wasgoing to be inconsistent.

(27:38):
You and I've waited to see whenyou was going to be
inconsistent.
I waited to see when you wasgoing to say something a month
ago and then say somethingdifferent a month later.
And I have to give you yourrespect you are one of the most
consistent, accurate, authenticpeople that I've seen on this
internet.
And then more and more peoplestarted to say it over the

(27:59):
course of time this internet,and then more and more people
started to say it over a courseof time and that's what started
to make me feel good, becausethey were right.
It's not that I was surprised.
I was glad that it washappening that way, because you
get on this internet, man, andI've I don't know how people do
it.
I've heard people say oh no,man, I just was doing that for
the gram, like I don't even knowhow to just do it for the gram.

(28:20):
Either it is or it ain't withme.
So that's how this was all ableto come into fruition, even
with the book.
I did the book primarily becausea lot of people didn't know my
story.
A lot of people didn't know howI got all this information.
A lot of people didn't know whyso many celebrities be with me

(28:43):
and know me and I'm in thesecircles like.
They see me on, they see me onsocial media, and then I'm in
the DM talking to them,responding to them, you know,
having conversations back andforth with them.
And then tomorrow they see mewith Floyd Mayweather.
The day after that they see meat puff house.
The day after that they see meat another party.
They see me with tiana taylor,they like, and these are all my

(29:06):
real friends.
So it's like I had a lady tellme one time.
She said what I really likeabout you.
She said we see you withcelebrities.
She said but every time I'vesent you a dm you always respond
.
But anybody that know me know Ido that I respond to all DMs.
If somebody DM me I'm going torespond to them, you know.

(29:27):
So that's how I created thealliance between me and the
platform.
You know it's not a this egoboast doing them big I's and
little u's.
And yeah, I'm like I didn'tcome to social media to become
somebody.
I was him already.
I was outside already.
Big eyes and little u's.
And yeah, I'm this like Ididn't come to social media to
become somebody.
I was him, yeah, already, I wasoutside already.
I had a network.
You know I was in the street,like people do me, like I didn't

(29:47):
come to social media to build apersona, to try to fill a void
that was in my life.
I just happened to come on andand start to share and, like I
said, the book gave people inteland insight.
Okay, now I get it.
He really been throughsomething.
That's really what it come downto.
Man like I just utilized who Iam and just for the sake of

(30:15):
social media.
Just, I guess Shabazz is me andthe OG is the branding.
You know what I'm saying, butyou put it out there, though,
consistently.
You know what I'm saying andyou are sharing a lot of value.
Yeah yeah, that's important.
Is there a strategy behind,like how you're putting the
content out?

Speaker 1 (30:32):
Like what you're saying the cadence, the
frequency, or is it?

Speaker 2 (30:35):
really like how you're feeling.
No, it's just me like I don't.
That's that's why it moves theway that it does, because I
don't have to think about it.
The only thing that, the onlything that comes into play in
terms of questioning is what'sgoing to be discussed, and I
don't have to worry about thatbecause people have grown to

(30:56):
like my perspective oneverything so much that they
send me the content.
Now I don't even have toresearch what's going on, like
it's crazy, because I veryrarely know what's going on on
my timeline.
You know which this is for a lotof people.
So now you'll know that I don'talways see your posts.
I don't always see your posts.

(31:19):
I'm not ignoring you, I'm notoverlooking you.
I still love you, you're stillmy folks but I don't always see
what's on my timeline because Ianswer all my DMs and in my DM
either people are havingconversation with me or they're
sending me content that theywant to see me discuss.
They want to see me discuss.

(31:42):
Yeah, so I don't even have tolike when it's popular topics.
If it's a hot topic, I'mprobably gonna have anywhere
from 30 to 50 dm of that sametopic, of people saying what do
you have to say about this youunderstand I'm saying so.
That consumes a lot of my time,so I don't even get to just
like scroll the timeline and seewhat's going on, because I'm in
that dm responding to people.

(32:03):
Yeah one thing I wanted to uhtouch on is like the last time
that that, uh, we saw each other.
Uh, we were talking about likeopportunities, right, and then
we also was talking about likeit being an election year and
there's a lot of distractions,right.
So, um, being as 2024 right, wegot the technology social media
, access to all the informationthat's available.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Right, and this is some information.
Like we, you know, let's say us, we didn't have access to or we
couldn't, you know, we couldn'tlearn certain things, but now
we can go to google, we use chat, gbt, you know, saying you can
get mentors a day out there.
Right, you know, you know, Imean so like, or coaches or
whatever.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
So like what do you feel?
someone that's young, coming up,you know uh, ways that they can
tap into certain opportunitieshere's what I tell people,
because let's take intoconsideration everything that
you just mentioned chat, gpt,google, uh, research, like all
the information is out here,right, but a lot of people not

(33:07):
researchers, a lot of people arenot technology savvy, right?
So I always implore peopleunderstand your inner workings,
be self-aware, know what worksfor you.
If you know, you learn betterthrough conversation like this,
find you somebody that know whatyou need to know and talk to

(33:30):
them.
Yeah, that that's actually agood one.
That's a real good one, becausewhat happens is this find
yourself a smart friend.
Find yourself a smart friend.
Find somebody who knows whatyou want to know.
They may be good at getting allthe information and if they
close enough to you and theycare enough about you, they're
going to share it with you soyou'll be able to absorb it and

(33:50):
learn it at your pace.
You dig what I'm saying.
Yeah, too many people try to dowhat everyone else is doing and
what happens is frustrationsettles in.
You know, like I know a lot ofpeople around me and you know
I'm just meeting you You're oneof them that know this financial
game, know this trading, thisreal estate.

(34:10):
You know, I was just laughingthe other day it was yesterday I
see a guy he on the Internetand he's talking about how he
bought a.
He booked a private jet trip onhis American Express.
Oh yeah, I seen that post.
I saved the joint.
Okay, see, stuff like that thatmake me dizzy.

(34:33):
Yeah, I got you, you know, see,because I took the American
Express and I paid for the jetwith the American Express.
But then I took them, I wentand borrowed money against my
life insurance policy at threepoint nine percent.
And then what I did, when Itook that money out of the
shoebox, then I put it overthere next in the underwear
drawer next to my socks.
And then when I took that backout of there at four point six
percent, then I took that backto American Express.
And then I came back and tookmy mom school shopping and then

(34:55):
gave her 1.2%.
But what I really did, I didn'tpay my child support because I
took the money from that andthen I brought that back to
American Express.
And then that's how I got theprivate jet.
And I'm like what did you justsay, man?
Did you have the money for thejet or didn't you?
You know what I'm saying, butin that world.
It makes sense For me.

(35:16):
Do you got the money for thejet or not?
You understand, but for somepeople that works.
I keep people like that aroundme because what's going to
happen is I'm transparent.
All my friends know when theystart talking like that.
They know my favorite word,they know Shabazz.
You know what Shabazz is goingto say.
You're talking Chinese, it'sforeign to me, but what.

(35:39):
They also know that if they seean opportunity for me, keeping
in mind how I think they'regoing to bring it to me, I've
arranged it where my friendsknow what to talk to me about,
they know what to say to me,they know what to say and what

(36:00):
not to say.
That comes out of that worldbecause I'm an expert at what I
know and I'm even more of anexpert of admitting what I don't
know, and I'm cool with that.
I'm cool with the lane that I'min because the lane that I'm in
is necessary.

(36:20):
There's people who can talk meunder the table when it comes to
finances and real estate andpercentages.
They could talk me under thetable, but they can't walk into
a room full of 10 year olds, 12year olds, 22 year olds or in a
prison and relate to people likeI can.
They can't pay for this, this,what I got, this ain't on the

(36:43):
market.
You can't buy it and you can'tsell it.
Either they're going to take itfrom you or they're not.
That's why I'm comfortable inmy space, because what I do is
valuable and it's necessary andit's unique and I'm cool with
that.
So I take who I am unique andI'm cool with that.

(37:03):
So I take who I am right, andthen I keep people like yourself
and others around me who arefaceted, multifaceted, in these
other worlds that are alsonecessary.
Bring them together and I bringthem together.
That's the smart way to do it,in my opinion.
So so if I tell so, if I was totalk to a youngin back on the
block, the first thing I'm gonnatell them to do understand

(37:24):
yourself, your journey.
What do you cut out?
All the noise?
Don't tell me what your friendsis doing.
Don't look at what somebodyelse has.
Don't look at what somebodyelse is driving.
What do you want?
Like I had that cut.
My son is 27.
I talked to my son.
He'll be 27 in june.
I talked to him, I was talkingto my son, and then he was on
the phone for over two hours andhe's a uh, he's a um, he's a

(37:50):
credit processor.
Okay, that's his job, right?
So we're having a conversationabout what?
What else is there?
I'm asking him, like, is thereanything else after this for you
?
I can't tell you what a creditprocessor does or what the
process look like.
You probably know, yeah, right,but my son he like look, I
think about other jobs, I thinkabout other.

(38:11):
You know him and his friends.
They have a clothing line andthat he has this.
And then you know he said I'vebeen thinking about, maybe you
know, picking up another, youknow, position that might give
me another extra three, fourthousand a month.
He said, because this, this,what I have right here, is I
will never lose this job.
Basically, like this is acareer that I will.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
I never have to lose, I never have to give this up
because it's a position that'snecessary for society and what's
going on in banking and creditand all of those things.
It's really the middle, it'sthe middle, Like.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
so, if I'm selling your product and you know you
want the, product Right, you gotto pay.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
So they process in the transaction and I'm eating
on everything.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
I'm eating on everything.
So he's in a space where he hasa career path.
He has what they call a stablework, a stable career path.
You understand what I'm sayingso.
But when he talks, when I askhim, you know, is there anything
to come, anything, anythingnext after that?

(39:17):
You know he, he has his picks.
He can say well, I can do thisor I can do that, because his
life is already stable.
He just bought his first home.
He has no children, he's single.
He's 26 years old.
The job that he has pays hisbills.
The job he has has created a,you know somewhat of a safe.

(39:39):
You know he got a savingsnugget.
So anything he does now is justadding to his savings.
He cool you know what I mean,because his life is simplistic.
He not worried about designerclothes and fast cars and a
bunch of women and jewelry likethat ain't his lifestyle, you
know.
He's comfortable in that spacethat he's in.

(40:00):
So that's the part that Iimplore for the youngins you
have to know what work for you.
I don't care what no body isdoing.
My son is going to do exactlywhat he wants to do.
I don't care what nobody gotgoing on.
Ok, when nobody else is wearing, everybody else can have on
Gucci.
Louis, my mother said.

(40:21):
She said my poor grandson, shesaid I think some days he just
go in his bedroom and open thedrawer and just stick his hand
in there in the dark and justput on the first thing he pull
out.
That's him, that's what worksfor him, and he don't care what
nobody think and people don'tunderstand how powerful that is.

(40:43):
Nah, super powerful, like whenyou can live your life.
People misconstrue.
I don't care what nobody thinkabout me.
It's one thing not to care whatnobody thinks about you when
you're secure.
We all care what people thinkof us.
We don't want somebody to thinksomething of us inaccurately.
But if your thought of me is,I'm not wearing designer, I

(41:08):
don't care about that.
If your thought of me is Idon't drive a Rolls Royce, I
don't care about that.
Now, if your thought of me is,and he's mean and I know I'm not
mean I care about that.
I don't want you to think of methat way.
So, not caring what nobodythink you know has its
limitations.
But for the most part, when I'mtrying to talk to these young

(41:30):
people, man or people that I'madvising or, you know, life
coaching, I always implorepeople get in tune and in touch
with who you are and what youwant, because you may not want
all of this other stuff.
That these people got moremoney, more problems is real.
That's not just a rat line,that's real.

(41:53):
The more you have, the morethings come with it More
responsibility, more people need, need and if you love them,
there's more help you're goingto dispense.
You know to whom much is given.
Much is really required.
So you have to really bemindful about is that the kind
of life you want to live?
And it's cool if you do, but ifyou don't, then don't.

(42:15):
But you won't know unless youknow yourself.
Yeah, so that's why I tellpeople to start at know you.

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Self-awareness is big bro,because it's like a lot of stuff
is already around, but you justhave to increase your level of
self-awareness so you canactually see it, that's what's
going to help you actuallychange or progress.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
You know what I mean, right?
So, for instance, even ifyou're someone that doesn't not
you, but if someone is like Idon't really get financial
literacy and you've been stuckon that for I don't know, let's
say a decade or two.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
The information has always been there, you know,
what I'm saying Now.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
You've been stuck on it for 10, 20 years so it's
keeping you at a certain level,if you realize you know what.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
I need to get this because I'm capped, or I need to
get this because it'spreventing me from providing for
my family, or I need to getthis because my credit has been,
you know, at a standstill for aminute, or I can't access
certain things because I justdon't know this information.
But your ability to access that, like you said, either getting

(43:53):
around smart friends or you justlike you know what I'm going to
just sit down and I'm going tolearn this information because
it's holding me back in my lifeor whatever situation, but it's
always been there.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
That's just that self-awareness.
And so again, self-awareness,like you said, is important.
I'm self-aware, as intelligentas I am, as articulate as I am,
as interactive with people as Iam.
I know me.
I've never been a researcher.

(44:24):
I've never been an avid bookreader, Never, even in school.
I think I graduated from highschool.
I've never been to college.
I graduated from high schoolwith a C plus average, maybe
right.
I think I was right there withyou.
I think I had like a 2.3.
Yeah, I think it was like a CSomewhere.

(44:45):
It was a C something.
It wasn't a B, because thatjust would have I would have
felt like I was valedictorian.
So I know it wasn't a B, it wasa C something.
It wasn't a D.
I think I graduated somewherein the Cs, but that never.
That it's somewhere in the seas, but that never.

(45:05):
That never defined me.
You understand me.
Like even now, I'm okay, I'mcool with what I don't know, not
that I don't want to know, notthat I won't know, not that I'm
not willing to learn, but if Idon't know something, somebody
can't make me feel inadequateabout that.
You know I'm certain things.
I know I'm not going toresearch.
I'm certain things I'm notgoing to get into because it's

(45:28):
not something that I've everbeen good at, so certain that's
why I keep an array of peoplearound me.
I got somebody that's a creditexpert.
I have somebody who's a tradingexpert.
I have somebody that's a creditexpert.
I have somebody who's a tradingexpert.
I have somebody who's a realestate like.
There is nothing that paysmoney in this world, practically

(45:50):
that I don't have somebodyaround me that's doing it.
You understand what I'm sayingand that's by design.
Again, again, because I knowwhat I don't know.
But all of these people that'saround me who you think they
call when they got problems, youknow I'm the one they call when

(46:10):
things not going right in thoseworlds that they get, because
what I talk about, what I do, isso universal it's not prejudice
to the.
You don't have to be in thestreet.
You know I met, I met.
I met a gentleman named RandyNordstrom who he does seminars

(46:31):
and and and and and speak andengage with with with a group of
lawyers, speaking engagementwith uh, with a with a group of
lawyers.
I met him, uh, at floyd'sbirthday party a couple weeks
ago and you know people weretelling him about me and you
know that's your bad the og andthey're telling him what I do
and he's like, wow, like thisguy sounds like somebody that

(46:53):
fits into the mold of what I'mdoing, because I need someone to
speak to these lawyers in amotivating setting.
Who's not a lawyer?
Yeah, no, of course.
Yeah, you understand what I'msaying.
I'm somebody who needed a lawyer.
I'm not one.
I needed one.
Yeah, so when it comes tomotivating people, or giving

(47:17):
people advice, or recognizing,identifying with what a person
is going through, whether younotice it or whether they come
to you and ask you who I am andwhat I do is not limited to the
hood or to the cool guys, or tothe streets, or to hip or to the

(47:37):
culture, like, no, anybody canget this work universally.
Anybody can get this workbecause I don't have to talk.
Sweet talk, now I could justcome straight into.
So let's talk about how youfeel like I can get in my real
therapist bag, and I never beento a college other than to speak

(47:58):
to the students.
You know, because I've spokenat colleges and universities,
you know, and those are my onlytimes in those settings is when
I went to speak.
So that's why I'm OK with whatI do, man, because what I do,
there's people whose world I donot understand, but you can't

(48:18):
pay them to do what I do.
How do you tell?
How do you tap into the source?

Speaker 1 (48:26):
So where do you go to get into your frequency, get
into your energy, get into yourbag, obviously, so you can pour
out that value and pour out thatinformation for other people.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
What's that look like for you?
I learned to like we wastalking earlier.
I learned to stay home.
I learned to spend a lot oftime with myself.
Um, you know, being Muslim, Ipray a lot.
You know I read.
I do read Quran a lot, like Iread.
I read my Quran more thanthat's the most read book that I

(48:58):
, that I, uh, that I own.
So, for me, the religion is aconstant reminder to me for
what's important.
I ran the streets and I torethe clubs up and then been a lot

(49:18):
of places, seen a lot of things.
So at this age now, you know,having lived the life that I've
lived and still continuing tolive, I've tapped into what's
important.
And what's important now is nothow much I get, but how much I
give, how much you give.
So that's that's why I am inlife right now.

(49:38):
But how much I give, how muchyou give, yeah, so that's why I
am in life right now.
It's not, you know, somebodycould give me $100 million
tomorrow.
I'm almost certain at leasthalf of it is going to go
towards other people.
You understand what I'm sayingbecause I've learned that life

(50:05):
is for me as long as there'scomfortability, not worrying
about bills, not worrying aboutwhat you have to pay.
If I wake up every day andsupport my lifestyle and I'm not
talking about having a bunch ofcars and a bunch of private jet
, like I'm not even talkingabout that because that's not
even my desire, you know, do Ilike cars?
Yes, but do I need a fleet?

(50:26):
No, I'm not in that mind set.
You know, that's not my frameof mind.
I I care more about like what?
What can I do to to to betterthis society that we live in?
That's in complete shambles.
Like how much can I give versushow much I can take.

(50:46):
That's what I'm on.
So what would be like one ortwo things that you feel like
could really change this societythat we're in?
That's in obviously shambles?
Like what are like one or twothings you would like to see
More accountability.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
We ain't got that in America, bro.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
Yeah, that's what we need.
That's what we need.
I mean, like I don't thinkpeople understand how integral
accountability is.
Because, if you think about it,if everybody woke up tomorrow

(51:27):
personally, if everybody woke upand personally was the change
that they say they want to seein this world, if they became
the change that they say theywant to see, if they became
everything that they telleverybody else to do, if they
became that, we changeautomatically.
People look for solutions toproblems in this world

(51:50):
everywhere except in the mirror.
I'm one of those people.
I've conquered the mirror.
If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.
Bro.
If I gotta apologize, I'mapologizing.
If I gotta say I was wrong, Iwas wrong, that's it.
I'm not gonna run aroundtelling everybody else what they

(52:11):
need to do, even when I talk topeople.
I don't talk to people likethat Because we all have a
responsibility of being bettertomorrow than we was yesterday.
That's just how it is.
But not enough people want todo that.
Man.
People are offended if youdon't see things the way that

(52:34):
they do.
People are angry if y'all don'tagree and then it turns into
disrespect.

Speaker 1 (52:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
Now it's a fact and it's unfortunate, especially
amongst us as black people.
We are so mean to each other,bro.
We are so mean to one another,and it could be something as
simple as you like Donald Trumpand I like Joe Biden.
Guess what?
We both liking something wrong.
We both are liking somethingthat could be potentially

(53:04):
detrimental, but I don't have aright to disrespect you for your
choice.
Your choice is your choice foryour reasons.
People argue I watch peopleargue With each other on social
media About perspective andopinion.
Neither one is right.

(53:25):
Opinions are not right.
Perspective is not right orwrong.
It's how you see something.
Yeah, it's your view, yourvantage.
But if you were smart, if Idisagree with Brendan, brendan
disagree with me.
But we can say.
You know what, bro?
Respectfully, we're going toagree to disagree, but I might

(53:45):
have took something out of yourperspective.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
Yeah, or or it might.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
it may have motivated you, or or myself, to do the
research, do the research or getmore information, get more
insight.
Having different perspectives isnot a bad thing.
Yeah, it's a lesson, it'steachings within that parameter.
But people, so many people,feel Incapacitated and unworthy.

(54:15):
So too many people don't feellike they matter.
I tell people this all the time.
With social media, one thing Idon't like, and I'll tell you
all this do not message me andtell me Shabazz, I want you to
post this and people need tohear your voice because your
voice is stronger than mine.

(54:36):
Do not say that, because if youdon't use your voice, you don't
know how strong it can be.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
Yeah, that's one of the reasons why I share like.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
I got this strategy called the 5-2-W right, and it's
one part.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
What is?

Speaker 2 (54:50):
it 5-2-W, okay, 5-2-w .
So it's one podcast a week for52.
That's 5-2-W.
It's like 52nd Street in WestPhilly.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
Yeah, there you go.
I guess I remember that.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
That's where I'm from .
5-2.
You dig, but go ahead.
5-2-w.
So that's one podcast a weekfor 52 weeks.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
So whether you're someone that's looking to get
their message out there if youdo 30 minutes a week, you say
you want to get your brand outthere.
You say you want to connectwith people, right, 30 minutes a
week you talking about your,your brand and your business in
front of different audiences,right by the end of the year
that's 52 different audiences.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
That's going 24 7 with your message.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
Somebody heard you right now if you're to your
point, if you're someone rightwho's like yo shabazz, can you
say it because your, your voiceis more impactful.
If you want to get your voicemore impactful, you could do the
exact same thing, right.
You could literally go on oneplatform, right, even if it's,
even if it's instagram live orsomething consistency one

(55:51):
platform a week at the minimum.
You're gonna be a better speaker.
Your message is gonna be tight.
You're gonna be more confidentyou might end up getting booked.
You're definitely going to sellsome stuff, right.
You know, what I'm saying.
And if we're going to get alittle bit crazy, you can do two
a week.
Now we're talking about twohours a time.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
That's 104 different platforms.
Now imagine being on socialmedia every single day, multiple
times a day, posting for sixyears straight.
Yeah, facts, that's what I didThree of those six years.
Every single night, at eighto'clock, I was Instagram live.

(56:34):
Yeah, but that's 1% behavior,bro.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
Now the funny thing is this what you're talking
about, everyone can do that.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
Of course.
But everyone won't do that.
You know why they won't do it.
You know why Instantgratification, not instant
gratification.
They're not doing itorganically, they're doing it
for the end goal.
Somebody told them if you dowhat you just said, in the end

(57:04):
you can have this.
So, in all actuality, they wantthe result.
They don't want the process.
Yeah, they don't want theprocess.
See me, this does not work forme.
I really do what I do becausethis is who I am, this is what I
choose to do, this is what Iwant to do, this is what I

(57:26):
choose to do, this is what Iwant to do, this is what I enjoy
doing.
That's why they say, if youenjoying, if you enjoy doing it,
it's not work.
Yeah, you know, I'm saying so alot of people.
They get excited, they get hypebecause they thinking about the
outcome.
Then when they realize, damn, Igotta go live once a week, I
gotta go live.
I gotta go live once a week.
I got to go live twice a week Igot to go live daily.
Yeah, I got to go live every day.
They won't last, because it'snot really in them, it's just on
them, because most people nowwe're trying to figure out how

(57:49):
can I get it quick?
I saw this dude yesterday.
He had four chains on.
He had a Lamborghini UrusExcuse me, he was in the
penthouse.
How do I get that by tomorrow?
Facts how can I get that byFriday?
And it's Thursday?
Yeah, how do I get that?
Not next Friday?
Tomorrow?
Yeah, facts.
So they don't want to put thework in.

(58:11):
They wouldn't even know what todo with it.
Though, even if they got allthat Because they think they can
cheat the process I don't carewho you are, where you are, it
still take 10 years to become anovernight success.
You've got to put and I'm notsaying it's going to take 10
years before you becomesuccessful but even if you
started something this yearRight and you made a million
dollars in it by next year, ifyou want to be great at it, you

(58:35):
still got to keep going.
So by the time you hit your 10year mark, what is that million
going to look like, if this isreally what you want?
This is why I tell people what Isaid a little while ago Tap
into who you are and what youwant.
Like who are you?
Because if you tap into who youare and what you like, oh man,

(58:56):
the sky's the limit.
You're never going to give itup, you're never going to stop
doing it.
If you tap into who you are andknow yourself and know what you
want, the ambition of whatyou're trying to be is going to
be easy for you, man.
But too many people want to bewhat everybody else is.
Everybody think that somebodyelse's level of success, that
their level of success, has toequal to what somebody else's is

(59:19):
.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
But I think some of that is because there's no
stability at the crib.
Bro, mom and dad ain't together.
Maybe it's, maybe it's a singleparent.
That parent might not have thewisdom or being in the in the
proper group to have the supportfor their friends.
You know, I'm saying maybethey're not home because they

(59:42):
gotta do two or three jobs.
So I mean, it's almost like acycle for us.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
I feel like you know, like, like you know I'm 43.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
I was younger.
I didn't have a stable homesituation, right, my mom, she
used to take me to crack houses,you know what I'm saying.
I used to see her shoot up anddo all types of crazy stuff, you
know what I'm saying.
But she died when she was inher early 30s.
My dad and I was what I was 15when she passed away.
My dad passed away when I was12.
He was in the streets, soneither parent was there for me.

(01:00:15):
Right, my grandmother raised me.
Right, she legally became myguardian, but she died too when
I was 16 because lung cancer.
Back then, everybody wassmoking, you know.
So I didn't have the support tofigure this shit out.
I think I just seemed like Ihad the.
I had the visual reminders, oror the visual examples, which,

(01:00:39):
which I was like I ain't doingthat because I see the results.
Like I, I essentially picked upon okay, mom did that, that's
what happened.
Dad did that you know they alldied, so we come, we come from a
uh where, if it's a slavery, ifit's racism, if it's classism,

(01:01:02):
whatever the case may be, weain't coming together to your
point earlier.
So because we're not comingtogether, it's just perpetual,
like even in music right now.
The number one music in theworld has always been well,
since it's been out, it'ship-hop, right, right, but
hip-hop now sounds like deathmusic, bro, sounds negative, low
frequency for the most part.
I can't even listen to the joint, no more.

(01:01:22):
Right, you know what I mean.
But what is that doing?
It's planting seeds.
It's really parenting the youthcoming up?
No, it really.
Is it the youth coming up?

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
No, it really is.
It really is.
But I'm going to rewind for asecond back to what you just
said, what you just described interms of duality in the
household, with parents lackingand being missing.
Right, your mother, your father, your grandmother, all the

(01:01:50):
stewards in your young lifetransitioned right.
Look where you are.
You're not a product of it,because your will, you had the
will.
Despite that's what's missingas well the will.

(01:02:13):
We know what slavery did.
We know what slavery created.
Do you still have the will,despite that?
Too many people don't have thewill.
Too many people want the excuse.
Too many people want to bepacified.
We can never deny or negatewhat slavery has done to us as

(01:02:34):
black people.
Yeah, you can't, but life hasalso lasted long enough.
Like we were talking aboutearlier research, google,
technology, opportunities,opportunities there's so many
things now at our disposal ifyou carry the will so that's it
right there.
I'm never to say what the whiteman didn't let me do.

(01:02:55):
I'm never going to say Well, mymom, my dad, wasn't in the
house with me, so I didn't.
I'm never, ever saying that,even if it carries validity,
because life has lasted longenough For me to tap into what's
right, what's wrong, what Iwant, what I don't want, what
works, what doesn't work, whatopportunity looks like, what

(01:03:16):
danger looks like.
These are all consciousdecisions that you make.
Now, granted, there's going tobe another of individuals who
doesn't have the bandwidth orthe wherewithal that a me or you
or many others may have.
So, yeah, some are affected byit, others may have.

(01:03:36):
So, yeah, some are affected byit, but that's the ecosystem,
right, it's going to always bean imbalance somewhere, but
ultimately, for the most part,even as it comes down to the
music.
This is why I tell people don'ttalk to me about the music if
you're not talking to me aboutparenting first.
First, the parenting supersedesthe music, because when we were

(01:03:57):
young, even in dysfunctionalhouseholds, even in abusive
households, there was abuse in alot of situations was nothing
but oversaturated authority,which means if your mother said
you didn't listen to this musicin her house and you go spending
that over Janice's house thisweekend.
Janice knew not to let youlisten to the music that your
mother didn't let you listen to.

(01:04:17):
There was continuity in theparenting.
There was continuity in theguardianship.
Yeah, I think I remembersomething like that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
When I was a kid I went to like a friend's crib.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
Yeah, whatever you can't do at home, you can't go
do on the road.
That's how it was.
Even in the dysfunction therewas order.
There's no more order now, orlack thereof in a lot of cases.
A lot of cases, there's noorder.
People have gotten lazyparentally.
Parental laziness has settledin.

(01:04:52):
So now, instead of going aboveand beyond to make sure your
daughter or your son don'tlisten to the music you don't
want them to listen to, you gettired of talking about it and
then you like it yourself.
So now you just plant it in thecar while they in the car with
you, and now it's too late.
And then when people start tosay, oh, it's the music, it's
the music, it's the music, it'seasy to blame the rapper now,

(01:05:15):
instead of saying you know what,as a parent, I could be doing
better.
Nobody want to say that.
Back to accountability.
It's easy to blame somebodyelse for your child's misfortune
, when, in all actuality, thefirst place of consultation

(01:05:35):
should be the mirror.
Like I tell people, more of usneed to adopt the process or in
the habit of having what I callpersonal staff means.
Yeah, I rock with that yeah, Ihave them all the time.
I'm the the board, I'm theemployee.
I haven't had myself audits.

(01:05:56):
I call them personal staffmeetings, man.
I have them all the time.
It's just like running a bigcorporation.
I'm the corporation.
Don't nothing around me operatethe way it's supposed to If my
dynamic and my structure isincomplete, so it's all about
getting into yourself.
People don't do it, though, man.
That's what all the problems?

(01:06:16):
That's where the problemsolving starts With you.
Bro, you hit on a bunch ofstuff right there, bro.
Just overall I'm hot.
Yeah, all neck.
Yeah, you're hitting on a bunchof stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
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apply to work with me and amember of my team.
I want to wrap up with this,though, so like let's say, we
got to well, I mean a couplethings also.

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
We got to make sure that we touch on, because I know
you got some projects comingout too.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
But if someone is going to like, let's say, let's
say, pass the OG Academy, youknow what I'm saying?
And there's like threeprinciples they got to leave
with.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
They can't graduate unless they get these principles
you know like, instilled insideof them.
What would they be?
I'll give you one better.
I already have them.
But it's not three, it's six.
Let's get all six.
It's called the Six Steps to howto Flip your Life.
It's in the book.
Well, the book is called Flipyour Life.
The six steps are not in there.
Yeah, all right, but the sixsteps is something that I came

(01:07:34):
up with after, after the book.
Lord, hand me one of thosephones, please.
So, so, the six steps to how toflip your life.
So what I did, I took the.
You know the adjectives who,what, where, when, why and how.
Who, what, when, where, when,why and how, who, what, when,
where, why, how, gotcha.
So the six steps to how to flipyour life is who's responsible

(01:08:01):
for flipping your life?
What are you flipping your lifefor?
Where do you begin to flip yourlife?
Why are all of these thingsessential to flipping your life?
And then, how do you start toflip your life?
Who, what, where, when, why andhow?
Right, so each one of those areAre talking points, and in

(01:08:23):
those talking points we talkabout everything from
accountability to strategy,proper preparation,
procrastination of preparation,procrastination, like all of
these things are what these sixsteps encompass.
So when I go to a, if I go likewhen I was in the, when I was

(01:08:45):
in the uh, when I was inBaltimore at the Baltimore
Juvenile Detention Center, I putthese six steps detention
center, I put these six steps,you know, on the easel and I
discussed those six points andit resonated with them.
It resonated with theadministration.
So when I discuss who, we'rediscussing accountability.

(01:09:05):
When I discuss what, we'rediscussing goals and ambitions.
When I discuss where we'retalking about proper planning
and awareness, when I discusswhen do you start to flip your
life, we're talking about theperils of procrastination or
moving too fast.
When you discuss why, we'retalking about the outcomes and
results of actions.
And when I discuss how, wediscuss an execution and

(01:09:27):
strategy.
So each one of these is adifferent talking point, but it
keep you well-rounded if youknow how to incorporate them
each step into your life.
So what I would do is if I hadto give somebody something to
walk with like this.
I'm in the process of thisbecoming a curriculum.
That's what I'm working on forthis to be a pamphlet, for this

(01:09:55):
to be a curriculum, because ifyou really take accountability,
goals and ambitions, properplanning and awareness um
knowing the perils ofprocrastination, knowing the
outcomes and results of youractions and execution and
strategy.
If you can implement all of itin your life effectively, you're
unstoppable, would you?

Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
say would you say those are more multiple?
So we said would would those bemultiple choice, where it's
like if somebody goes through iteveryone can kind of answer the
same questions, or would it bemore short form where people
write in their individualresponses.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
Well, what's going to happen is this is going to go
towards you as an individual.

Speaker 1 (01:10:25):
So I guess what I'm asking is could it be almost
like a questionnaire?

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
and they get a certain response at the end yeah
, because your response is goingto be different from his.
Yeah, okay, he's going to bedifferent from his because it's
all going to be about when.
When I say who is responsiblefor flipping your life and I
talk about accountability, whatyou need to be accountable for,
it's going to be different,maybe something different from
what he got to be accountablefor, but it's still

(01:10:50):
accountability.
Outcomes, goals and ambitions,outcomes and results of actions.
Everything that's in here, youinternalize it.
This is not universal.
This is all intentional to eachindividual.
This is not universal.
This is not something that youlook at and everybody does this

(01:11:14):
the same way.
You walk away as a whole person.
No, take these six steps andapply them to your life
individually for your ownpersonal result.
Everybody's going to change forthe better as an individual,
but for collective, forcollective, yeah, for a
collective change.
That's what this is about.

(01:11:35):
I'm wrong.
I'm rocking with that, bro.
I'm rock with that You're goodfor a C average graduate, man.
I'm right there with y'all.
So, like I probably like a 2.3myself, bro.
Yeah, man, I mean, you know,life gonna teach you what a
classroom didn't and, at the endof the day, like life going to
teach you what a classroomdidn't yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:11:53):
and at the end of the day, like them, grades ain't
helping you in the real world.
It don't matter what you got,you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:11:59):
Those ain't real world.
You can't apply that to thereal world.
That's why you have people who,again, never finished school,
Some people dropped out in highschool.
They're multimillionaires.
They're living their life 100%,they're living their.
I mean they multimillionaires.
They live in the life A hundredpercent.
They live in the life because,again, life is really based on
what's meant for you, first andforemost.
That's another thing peoplehave to tap into understanding

(01:12:21):
your journey and what's meantfor you.
I don't care what it is, Idon't care who you are.
If it's not meant for you, youwill never get it.
If it is meant for you, nobodycan stop it, slow it down,
hinder it, disrupt it.
It's coming.
All you have to do is your partof going towards it.

(01:12:41):
But if it's meant for you, it'syours.
You just have to take thenecessary steps to claim it.
So let everybody know what yougot going on, man, because I
know you got it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:56):
Last time you told me when we spoke you have some
projects coming out.
Right, you got a network.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
You know what I mean.
Right now, the biggest, thebiggest project is the TMT
Digital Network, which is TMTDigital.
TMT Digital, named after this.
On this hat of mine, on thishat of mine.
The TMT Digital Network is anetwork that I started with my

(01:13:19):
business partner, maria Beniquez, and one of my other partners
is my man, james McNair P Rilla,the vice president of
Mayweather Promotions.
So, you know, through myfriendship with Floyd, I was
able to garnish the ability toutilize the brand, you know, to
my advantage.

(01:13:40):
So you know, I'm trusted withthe brand.
So anything that I'm doing thatI want to attach the brand to,
you know I'm at liberty to dothat.
So what I decided to do back in2017, I came up with the idea
to start the TMT Digital Network.
In 2017, I came up with theidea to start the TMT digital
network, which is gonna, whichis gonna be a subscription based
platform.
Well, content can live mycontent, your content, other

(01:14:02):
people's content, you want to.
You're looking for somewhere toput your content for
subscription base, just like aHulu or Netflix or so on and so
forth.
It's a black owned, minorityowned business that caters to
our culture, but also giving usa place for this content to live
Within the midst of what we'rewatching today.

(01:14:26):
So much negativity is almostlike you can't be on TV if
you're not doing something crazy, or you can't have music out
unless you're doing somethingviolent or sexual or it's just.
Everything is like onedimensional now.
So what we, what we're doingwith TMT Digital, is offering a
space for creators to feelcomfortable.

(01:14:47):
If what you have is positive,it doesn't have to be dark,
doesn't have to be dirty,doesn't have to be dingy Like it
can be illuminated, it could bepositive, you know, because
people are not rewarded forpositivity, no more.
That's why we're seeing so muchnegativity, because that's
what's being rewarded thegoofier you are, the bigger the
check is nowadays, and it'sunfortunate, and this is why

(01:15:09):
we're losing so many youngcreators, because everybody not
gangsters, everybody notfighters, everybody not
disrespectful but they'relooking at all of this going on
around them.
It's like man.
Well, this is what I got to doif I want to be successful.
So people are compromisingthemselves.
So TMT Digital Network is justgoing to be a space or a place

(01:15:30):
and a platform where you don'thave to compromise.
We're welcoming positive inputand positive content.
Right now, the network is stillbeing put together, but
tmtdigitalnetworkcom is where mypodcast Flip your Life is.
Right now.
I have 10 episodes thereGetting ready to start shooting.

Speaker 1 (01:15:52):
You know my second season, let's go season two.
Yeah, you know my second season, let's go season two, yeah, you
know, so I got.
Let's go season two.

Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
I got 10 episodes in on Flip your Life and you can
find it, you know, again on theTMT digital network.
So I'm working actively on thatin the process of putting
together a conference thissummer.
You know it'll be the first,first annual, something that I
want to do annually.
You know, in terms of somethings I want to contribute to

(01:16:18):
the culture in society.
I don't want to talk too muchabout it, yeah, because we're in
the beginning stages of it andI'm one of those people I don't
really like to talk about muchabout what I'm about to do.
I rather talk about what I'mdoing or what I've done, and
once I get further along in theplanning of it I'll speak more

(01:16:38):
about that.
But, um, yeah, the podcast, thebook, the book is available on
badz, the ogcom, not Shabazz,just Badz, b-a-z-z and I got the
book.
I feel like I think I told, Ithink I told Shabazz that, like
I, I think I told some guys that, like I feel like books are
probably the best thing that youcan do to support somebody.
It's like you meet somebody andpass it off the rip.

(01:16:59):
If they got a book, I think youshould just cop the book.
Yeah, please get the book.
You know, I done told y'all,y'all done heard my life story.

Speaker 1 (01:17:05):
I've been outside the link.
Don't be below.

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
You know I done played in the street and I
risked my life and my freedom.
I'm 55 now.
I just want to live easy and becool.
I was laughing.
I think I told Lauren like sixbooks a day, y'all, just six.
All I need to do is sell sixbooks a day.
My bills is paid.
I ain't asking nobody fornothing.
I'm cool.

(01:17:27):
Six books a day, that's all Iwant.
If y'all can help me sell sixbooks a day, are you doing the
ads on this?
By the way, those are Laurenquestions.
If the book ain't selling, it'sLauren's fault.

Speaker 1 (01:17:38):
Yeah, lauren talk about that you see how I did
that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
I wrote the book.
Now I can't write it and sellit.
Somebody got to sell it.
I was good at other things, butthere's marketing and the ads
and just like you bring thesepeople around who know how to do
these things, I just did themath on how many need to get
sold.
That was my job, yeah, gotcha.
Now Lauren, you know, sells sixbooks a day.

Speaker 1 (01:18:07):
Yo, so during the podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:18:11):
I was just thinking as we're having a conversation,
because I be thinking while I betalking, as you should.
So I feel some money coming on.
I feel it.
You got the summit popping offthat you're going to put
together Right for sure,absolutely, you got these books
Right.
Right, you speak Absolutely.
You know what I mean.
You give a lot of value, youchange a lot of lives.

(01:18:31):
Come on, d, you're warming meup.
I can see the dollar signs Comeon.
Spit it out.
I got a tour.
I got a tour.
I'm putting together.
Ok, I got a tour.

Speaker 1 (01:18:40):
It's called an audience growth tour.

Speaker 2 (01:18:42):
Audience growth tour.

Speaker 1 (01:18:44):
Audiencegrowftourcom.

Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
OK, you know what I'm saying.
It's a hybrid.
So basically, what it entailsis one day is a workshop.
Okay, you know I'm saying where?
Um, you know we're teaching,giving value, you know, making
sure people getting getting theinformation that that we have
planned for them.

Speaker 1 (01:19:03):
Um the next day is a private networking live podcast
type of vibe okay like prettymuch what we got going on here,
shout out to everybody here.
That's live.
You know, I'm saying they'rehere too, right, it's like that.
So.
So let's say it would be me, orI would feature a guest host
and they would do an interviewand then people that you know

(01:19:24):
take advantage of that option,get to come partake in the live
and then ask questions with the,you know, with the guests.

Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
Super dope content and then the next.

Speaker 1 (01:19:32):
You know, we have a bonus day for certain people.
It would be like a content day.
So what I'm saying is maybe youwant to come on the tour.

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
It would be.
It would be potentially youmyself.
And then there's two otherindividuals that I connect with
pretty often, that are friendsand clients of mine, that I'm
going to slot for the tour.
Amen, I told you it was one,it's 12 cities.
Okay, for six months Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:19:58):
It's basically two spots a month.
Two spots a month.
Okay, two spots a month, andthen he sells tickets on front
end and then we got a nicelittle package on the back end
and then we record everything.
I'll probably bring my guy tome.
He can be in charge of all ofthe content.

Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
I'm talking about the Energizer Bunny.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah.
The Energizer Bunny, Yo yo, hegot a song.

Speaker 1 (01:20:23):
It's called 100 Push-Ups.
Yo, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:20:26):
Listen like if you can't do 100 Push-Ups by the
time he finished with you, youwill.
No facts, facts, so so.

Speaker 1 (01:20:34):
So what I'm saying is you should join me on tour, bro
, ah.

Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
Invitation accepted.

Speaker 1 (01:20:41):
So, Lord, Lord, you got work to do Invitation?

Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
see, I knew, see, I could tell you, you know how, on
the cartoons, when they got thebaseball and they winding the
arm up real fast, like I knewthe pitch was coming, yeah, but
I knew it was a dollar sign atthe end of it.
I'm with all of that.
Yeah, I'm with that because,yeah, that's what's important
now bro what's important to meis.
What's important to me is thatthe the if you talked earlier

(01:21:06):
about branding, shabazz, the og,the brand right, the brand is
established and that's what I'mgrateful for.
I'm grateful that the brand hasbeen established and I don't
have to rely on um instagramanymore, because it's got really
weird over there like this.
We're no, it's no, what?
Listen to what I'm about to say, since this is what march?

(01:21:28):
Since august, since august,laura, you, I have not gained
one follower.
My following has been stuck ontwo hundred and eight thousand.
So you've been shadow banned.
I've been shadow banned, butit's too late.

(01:21:48):
The impact has already happened.
It has happened.
I'm already outside, I'malready in the community.
People already know me, peoplealready know the brand.
People already stopped me inthe airport, on the street, take
pictures.
Oh, I love what you do.
It's done.
So now, when things like thistake place, you know, when you

(01:22:10):
invite me to a situation likethis, what has happened is the
people who needed to see me haveseen me and have gotten
familiar with the impact of thebrand and what I'm doing, and
now we're taking it to newheights and new levels.
Like, I don't, I'm out, andthen, with the TMT Digital
Network we put in, I'm puttingmyself in a position where we

(01:22:33):
have our own network.
So you want to find me and whatI do and how I do it, going
over there to something that Iown.
Because these people, they'replaying with people money,
they're playing with peoplelivelihood.
They don't want you to givegood game, they don't want you
to give the truth, they don'twant you to help people.
It's almost like as long as youyou keeping people in the dark
with bad information andsilliness, you can have a

(01:22:56):
million followers.
But the minute you starttalking about something that's
going to keep people on thecourts, you shadow, ban, you
blocked, you know your contentis being taken down.
You receive an all-connorwarning and all I did was tell
people hey, eat healthy exercise.
And you took the post down andthen replaced it with people

(01:23:19):
fighting in the street, stompingeach other's face in the
concrete.
It's wild to me.
So I appreciate the opportunity, I appreciate the invitation,
because this is the stuff thatmeans something to me, because
once you can transition fromthese devices and really be
outside feet on concrete, that'swhen you're making a real

(01:23:40):
difference so invitationaccepted.
Let me know when.
And it's up.
Yeah man, let's go crazy.
Man bro, I appreciate you, Iappreciate you likewise, I
appreciate you keeping your word.
You know being a has been dopeman.
You know being a solidindividual.
You know from the day we met,you know the conversation was
contagious.
You know got to put me withyour guy to get that blood work

(01:24:00):
done.
Oh yeah, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:24:02):
Shout out to my guy Carlton Listen, bro.
Forever Young Miami.
Probably either the full out ofthe one or I went to the one in
.

Speaker 2 (01:24:10):
Boca just scheduling, but full out of them might be
the closest Full out of them isclosest, but you definitely got
to tap into him.
Yeah, no, for sure, super cooldude, for sure as well, you know
.

Speaker 1 (01:24:19):
I—.
We was actually talking aboutthat on an earlier podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:24:21):
Yeah.
So you know, when you said thatto me, you know that was
something that set my antennasand my radar up.
So I'm definitely lookingforward to that, man and again,
I just I just appreciate theinteraction, the brotherhood,
the respect.
You know, um, all the thingsthat you've accomplished and
continue to accomplish, and youknow putting people in position.
That's another thing that youknow that we have to continue to

(01:24:42):
do as, as as um, as indigenouspeople and as as indigenous men.
You know, especially the men.
You know we're the leaders,we're the providers, we're the
protectors.
We got to do a much better jobat forming these alliances with
one another and buildingcamaraderies, man, so we can
protect our women, protect ourcommunities, protect our kids
and really stand on thatprinciple of what being a man

(01:25:07):
really is, which is not beingafraid to see another man shine,
not being afraid of another man, having more than you, being
comfortable in your own skin andbeing able to unite and tell
somebody else hey, I got anopportunity for you, brother,
what's up you with it?
Yeah, let's get it.
That's what it's about.

Speaker 1 (01:25:23):
So I appreciate you, yes sir, Listen y'all for
another episode of the HonorPursuit podcast.
Make sure you tap in with yourBaz the OG, Grab the book.
I did so.
You should, too, Flip your lifewhen they got to go to to get
it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:36):
Six a day is all I need.
Go to baztheogcom,b-a-z-z-t-h-e-o-gcom.
Six a day and y'all will keepme satisfied.
Yo, six a day, y'all we out.

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