6:9 - Camp One Clap 2024: Day 9
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Can you imagine facing your biggest fears head-on while thriving in the competitive world of speech and debate? Today, three talented members of the 1A/2A State Champion Bighorn High School Speech and Debate Team join camp: Lindsey Walker, Lizzy Arcarese, and Lydia Marhoff. We discuss survival skills in a post-apocalyptic world, with Lindsey humorously admitting she'd rather not survive, while Lizzy and Lydia jump into the dynamics of fear and leadership. Discover how these activities have fostered personal growth, confidence, and invaluable friendships for Lindsey, Lizzy, and Lydia. With humor, self-reflection, and shared passion, our guests provide a compelling and inspiring insight into the rewarding world of successful competitive speaking at a small Wyoming school.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Hey campers.
We're surviving deep into theclapocalypse here at Camp One
Clap.
Here on day nine, we've beenvisited by Lindsay Walker,
lizzie Arcarice and LydiaMarhoff a trio of talented
bighorn speech and debaters whoare here to share advice and
inspiration for overcoming fearsin performance.
I'm your camp director and hostof the One Clap Speech and
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Debate podcast, lyle Wiley.
I hope that Camp One Clap hasbeen a source of inspiration and
encouragement for speech anddebate competitors and coaches
this August.
Quick reminder check the OneClap socials for today's social
media challenge.
Thank you to everyone who'sbeen out there engaging with the
challenges.
It's been a lot of fun.
Let me take a moment before ourinterview to tell you a little
bit about our guests here atcamp today.
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Lindsay Walker is an upcomingsenior for the Bighorn High
School Speech and Debate Team.
She's a 2A state champion fororatory and a two-time 2A state
champion team member.
While her main event is oratory, she has competed in extemp,
impromptu and congress.
She took the jump fromathletics to speech and debate
her sophomore year and couldn'tbe more satisfied with her
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decision.
Lizzie Arcariz has been a partof speech and debate for three
years at Bighorn High School.
Her main events are duo anddrama interpretation.
In 2023, she qualified andcompeted in drama interpretation
for the National Speech andDebate Tournament.
She has also helped her team totwo state championship titles
in 2023 and 2024.
She's going into her senioryear and is excited to compete
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in her last year, once to giveit her all.
Lydia Morhoff is an upcomingsenior on the Bighorn High
School Speech and Debate teamand her main speech events are
duo and humor.
She can't wait to bring somefun into the speech world and
share some secrets of how toovercome challenges that come
with the stress of speech.
All right, strap in and getready for my interview with
Bighorn Speech and Debate starsLindsay, lizzie and Lydia.
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Welcome to Camp One.
Clap to the Clapocalypse with.
Well, we've got.
Lindsay Walker, lizzie Arcarice, lydia Marhoff Welcome all
three of you.
You're all from Bighorn.
Thank you for coming on thepodcast.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Thanks for having us.
Yeah, thanks for having us.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I'm really excited to talk with you.
I've seen you all attournaments.
I've had an opportunity to seea couple of you compete.
You're all fabulous and statechampions this year and I'm
excited to hear your perspectiveon some stuff.
But before we get startedtalking about speech and debate,
I want to tap into your fear.
So yeah, lindsay, what's yourfavorite?
Scary story, like a movie, abook, a spoken story what's your
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favorite?
Speaker 3 (02:41):
I love all horror movies, but when I think of a
scary story, I think ofelementary school, the scary
stories books, and specificallythe one with that one lady with
the green ribbon around her neckand they're like she's never
taken it off and then she'sdecapitated.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
she's gone no head or a head, but not connected it's
pretty scary and I know exactlywhich story you're talking about
, because it scarred me just thesame as it scarred everybody
else, I think because I just Ivividly remember being on the
playground and I I don't know ifit was lydia, but someone told
me it.
I was like my god it stilltraumatizes you, to this day
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that's a core memory for me.
Honestly just hardcore.
So what about you lizzie?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
you got a favorite scary story not really lindsey's
the connoisseur on like horrorand like scary stories.
I normally stay away from thatstuff because I'm like not my
damn but like I love likereading all the old like
original disney stories thatlike are technically horror.
I don't know if it's actuallyhorror, but where Cinderella's
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stepsisters chop off their feet.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yeah, original fairy tales went hard.
They were not chill.
There was no chill at all, yeah, good point, those are pretty
scary, some of them the originalLittle Mermaid.
Not a tale to tell your kids.
I don't think some scary stuff.
So, lydia, what is yourfavorite scary story?
Speaker 3 (04:11):
I don't know, I don't really listen to scary stories,
to be honest watch horrormovies together.
What are you talking about?
Yeah, my favorite I guess, theone that traumatized me the most
was Barbarian for sure, oh myGod, lindsay remembers Barbarian
.
It's not PG enough to discuss,it's like gory, it's horrible.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Lizzie was not invited no.
Lizzie wouldn't have been ableto handle that.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
No, lizzie would have just died, I think, just like
on the spot.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Well, this will segue nicely into my next question,
which is about your potentialsurvival in a post-apocalyptic
wasteland.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
So if we were?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
to have some sort of apocalyptic event and the world
gets turned upside down maybe azombie apocalypse or something
like that, something out of adystopian novel on a scale of
one to ten.
How likely do you think youwould survive and do you bring
any skills to the table in theevent of the apocalypse?
We can start with you, lindsay.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Zero.
I don't want to survive anapocalypse.
Everyone wants to be the heroand not everyone can be Katniss
Everdeen Fair.
That doesn't even seemenjoyable.
I barely like camping.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Okay, so Lindsay's a zero.
Do you have any skills thatyou'd bring to the table at the
event of the apocalypse?
Speaker 3 (05:44):
I guess I could talk to people.
You're very down to earth.
You could definitely be likeguys, let's not do that, because
that would kill us.
But people aren't going to benice in apocalypse.
But, they might listen to you Imean you've got a powerful
voice.
I'd listen to Lindsay in anapocalypse.
It's like I could lead, I guess, but I don't want to.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Gotcha, so definitely don't want to be in the bunker
with you.
Let's go to Lizzie.
Lizzie, what about you?
What do you think?
What are your odds of survival?
And then, what do you bring tothe table?
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Probably like I don't know, a five.
It's like 50-50.
I don't know, maybe not a five,it's like 50, 50, I don't know,
maybe not.
Um lizzie would get glued onthe first day probably.
I have a thousand differentallergies so it's like really
easy to kill me like with, likefood or like medicine.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
But like I also was a girl scout for 10 years, so
like I have some outdoorsurvival skills oh, I mean,
that's a fair mix and, you know,maybe will the survival just
kick in in that situation.
But yeah, the allergies couldbe a problem.
Yeah, that could be bad.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
If you didn't have your allergies, do you think it
would be better for you?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
I think it would still be a 50-50 chance.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
I think Lydia.
Maybe Lydia's our best, bestchance here.
What do you think, lydia?
Do you think you would have abetter chance?
Speaker 3 (07:10):
well, I know, I know how to.
I've like read a bunch of stuffabout, like outdoor survival,
so like I know, but I don't knowif I could put it into practice
.
I give myself like maybe a fiveand a half.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Five and a half.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah, it's solid.
It's like over halfway.
I'd be like maybe, but like Idon't know, I feel like I'd go
insane.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
I don't think speech and debate.
People are probably the mostlikely to survive in these kinds
of situations like, at leastnot talking to the folks that
well, not the people I've talkedto.
It seems like we're mostlytalkers, not really hardcore
hunters, foragers, gatherers.
So all three of you, how didyou?
How did you get into speech,debate, what, what brought you
in?
What made you stick around?
Speaker 3 (07:58):
we'll start with you, lindsey it was a sports girly
for five years of my life Iwould have.
I made fun of speech and debatekids.
I made fun of kids in theater.
And then freshman year, myfirst year of high school
basketball I hated it.
And so sophomore year, I hatedvolleyball too that season.
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So I'm complaining to our coach, mr mr olsen, like during band
class and he's like you could dospeech and debate and that's an
excuse not to do basketball.
That is so embarrassing.
But I did it and here I amyou're not still embarrassed,
right?
only only okay okay, fair.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
What about you lizzie ?
What?
How'd you get involved in this,uh, this terrifying universe?
Speaker 2 (08:49):
so I've heard about speech and debate since I was
young, because my dad did it incollege.
So when he heard bighorn had ateam, he's like you have to do
it.
I don't care what else you'replanning on doing in high school
, you gotta do it.
So I was like okay.
So freshman year I was brandnew to big horn and I started it
.
And here we are I mean you'rehaving a good time right yeah,
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and my dad's one of my coachesnow, so that's quite the
experience I'm sure it is.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yeah, yeah, um, and from talking with your friends
here, uh seems like it's never adull moment.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
No, lydia and I convinced the crap out of
Lindsay Join us in speech anddebate.
It was a struggle, yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
But they got you, they got you.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
You get to hang out with us every week.
It's like a cult.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
We are a cult, let's be so familiar.
We are a cult.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
For sure, for sure.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
So, Lydia, are you like a?
Speaker 3 (09:48):
founding member of the cult.
How did you get involved?
Uh, so I joined my freshmanyear.
I really don't know.
I think I was like ian garrisonwas like I idolized him.
I was like, oh my gosh, he's socool, I gotta be in every
everything that he's in.
Because I wanted to be as coolas Ian Garrison.
And so I joined and was not sosuccessful.
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My freshman year I did drama.
That was my only event.
I didn't know how to act, so Ikind of just spoke my piece.
I didn't do well in any senseof the word, but it was just
really fun.
I was like, well, I get to hangout with a bunch of cool people
and I get to like have lots offun on the weekends and I get to
like get away from everythingfor a little while.
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And so the rest is history.
I did a duo with Ian Garrison,the king himself.
I did two in a row with him andI just never looked back.
It's it's such a coolexperience and I realized, like
this is something I want to be apart of for the long run, like
this is super cool, and so yeah,so, like, let's talk about your
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events.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
We're kind of dipping into that a little bit already.
But, Lindsay, what kind ofevents have you competed in?
What do you like the best?
What's your favorite?
Speaker 3 (11:10):
I've done.
I did Congress once, a singulartime, not a fan, not a fan, but
I do Extempt Impromptu andOratory.
Those are my three.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Sweet, all right, cool.
You know that Impromptu isgoing to be like a main event
this year, right?
Speaker 3 (11:22):
know, I heard that I'm excited because it's always,
it's always like a gamble whenolsen, when our coach is like
they'll have it here, they'llhave it at this meet, and I'm
like okay, yeah, I think mostteams will make a pretty solid
effort to to have it now becauseit'll be a state event, so that
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should be good.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Okay, cool, um, what's your favorite?
Speaker 3 (11:47):
oh okay, I love it's between oratory and extemp.
They're like my kids, because Idid, I've done extemp.
Oratory was right.
Junior year was my first yeardoing oratory but I've done
extemp since the beginning andI've worked through extents a
lot longer.
So I I feel a lot morecloseness to extents, like a lot
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more pride to it, but I enjoylike performing my oratory more,
my oratory pieces more.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Okay, okay, cool.
What about you, lizzie?
What events have you done andwhat's your favorite?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
So almost everyone on our team has been congress.
It's like if you're new to theteam, olsen's like congress,
like that's easy, you can do it,no, so?
no one ends up liking it, exceptgideon.
Gideon has been the only personon our team that's liked to
congress.
Anyways, I've been in congressimpromptu drama and duo and I
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think I loved my duo my junioryear this past year because of
my duo partner.
If we messed up at all, wecould get each other back on
track and pick each other backup.
She was the best duo partner.
One time we messed up our wholepiece and missed our intro and
still got second in the round.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
I don't know how that happened, and I didn't even
notice it watching so you justhad dynamite chemistry with your
duo partner?
Speaker 1 (13:17):
yeah, we worked really well together.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
and then drama, I think, is my favorite because I
can pull out all the emotionthat I can pull from myself and
I qualified to nationals withthat.
So I think drama would have tobe my favorite.
But I love duo if I get a group.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Cool, Cool.
Well, what about you, Lydia?
What are your events?
I'm guessing you did Congress.
Oh gosh.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
I was the only one who didn't do Congress.
Pretty much I always had anevent.
I did drama my freshman yearand then duo my sophomore and
junior years and then I didhumor this past year.
I have a love-hate relationshipwith humor, for sure.
I love doing humor.
It's a lot of fun to do mypiece, but I don't think I'm
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funny, so I'm like I don'tunderstand why I'm doing so.
Well, I hate this.
This is weird and also humor isreally a hit or miss with like
the piece that you do.
So it's really hard to get likea lot of like really really
funny pieces, because there'snot a lot of really really funny
pieces out there that's what Ithink at least.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
So what do you think is your favorite then?
Speaker 3 (14:34):
duo is definitely my favorite.
I love duo.
But it was just because iangarrison and I have a lot.
We have it's like lizzie andbella like got.
We got the like stage chemistrythat makes it like really easy
to do a duo with this person.
And also we're both like very,very committed, so it was really
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easy to like fall into the flow.
But I'm nervous this yearbecause I don't know who I'm
going to do a duo with And'm sosad because my partner graduated
.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
But it's still definitely a favorite of mine
yeah, that is like hard, but italso means that there's exciting
stuff in the future.
You'll get to try it out withsomebody different, so hopefully
it's going to work out andyou'll have a great time.
Before we talk about overcomingscary things in speech and
debate, which probably mayinvolve trying to navigate a new
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duo partner for Lydia, I dowant to take a spooky, ghostly
interlude and ask you guys aboutghosts in the paranormal.
Are you believers?
Do you think that ghosts arereal?
What do you think, lindsay?
Speaker 3 (15:41):
No, I feel like people are just kidding
themselves.
Like it's like for me it's likeconspiracy theories can be fun,
but like, at the end of the day, like you know, they're not
real like and people who arereally passionate about it
actually piss me off becauseit's just so annoying.
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Off because it's just soannoying.
It's like you'll never know howdo I explain this.
I'm never gonna bring up that Idon't believe in ghosts, but if
someone does believe in ghosts,you're gonna know almost
immediately having aconversation with them.
Like it's like, shut up oh my,maybe I shouldn't have started
with you, l Lindsay, because nowLizzie and Lydia are both
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probably like well, I better notsay anything, I'm only saying
this because I have a familymember who swears that the place
he works is haunted and he hasADHD, so it's like maybe he just
got distracted.
That's my vendetta.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Lindsaysey, that's horrible.
Understandable, I guess.
What do you think, lizzie?
Are you a paranormal believer?
Speaker 2 (16:55):
no, not really.
I have to agree with lindsey,but I'm not as passionate about
it.
I'm like I don't really believein them, but I don't know how
to explain all the weird thingsthat have gone on in every
single theater that I've been in.
Like there's just weird thingsthat go on in theaters.
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That's different.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Theater.
Ghosts exist.
No other ghosts exist.
I didn't know that was a partof this conversation.
I didn't know our theatersuperstitions were being brought
into this.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
An interesting turn, Okay.
So what about you, Lydia?
What do you think?
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Yeah, for me.
Personally, I don't even knowabout any of the paranormal, I
just don't care enough.
I'm like, if a ghost is aroundme, cool, have fun, go crazy bro
, but like I don't know, I justdon't have enough passion for
that to be like no or yes.
It's like I don't know.
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Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Lizzie Got it All right.
Well, it sounds like not abeliever group, nor a group that
really cares about it all thatmuch, except for, possibly,
theater ghosts.
So speech and debate, though,can be pretty scary.
I mean, it's not easy to putyourself out there and perform
and speak your heart tostrangers and all that stuff
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that goes into what you do.
So how do you overcome yourfears and anxieties to excel in
the speech and debate world?
I want to hear some of yourstories, like how you guys feel
about fear, and how you caneither use it in a positive or
negative way.
Uh, what do you guys think,lindsay?
What about you?
How do you overcome fears andanxieties?
Are you, or do you just nothave any?
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Like, oh, I have some , so let me tell a story.
So I so I played.
I played sports and ourbasketball season my freshman
year sucked and I hated it.
And playing a sport in front ofpeople, I hated the feeling
because I knew we weren't goodAll of that.
So when I was transitioning tospeech and debate, I was like,
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oh, this is going to be fine,like it can't be that bad.
It was.
It was my first extant round.
I walk out and I'm like in mylittle heels and I'm like
sniffling, as I'm like walkingto our table.
I ended up doing well,apparently that transition was
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very shocking to me.
I do for nerves because, likemy stomach gets all twisted.
I've learned that sprinting inheels down a hallway really
boosts your confidence, likebecause, like warm-ups before
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games for sports, like you, youwarm up, you get ready.
I started doing that in speechand then I also I also get
sturdy in my heels and that'slike a dance move You're not
going to understand.
Would you like to demonstrate?
I mean no, no, yeah.
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So I do that.
The higher the heel, the better.
I think just heels in generalmake me feel better about
performing.
I don't know why.
And then, as soon as I'm infront of an audience, I just
black out honestly and I just doit yeah yeah, okay, well, I
can't say that.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
I've tried running down hallways or sprinting in
hallways and heels.
Like I might have to give thata shot, see if it helps you, you
should try it.
What about you, Lizzie?
How do you deal?
You got any stories.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
I've been performing on stage since I was five, so I
feel like that has really helpedme like go into speech and
debate and be able to perform infront of people.
What's more scary is thatthey're right in front of you
and not like in the audiencewhere you can't see them.
They're like right in front ofyou so you have like I make eye
contact sometimes during myspeech piece and like sometimes
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that messes me up, I don't know,I don't know.
Sometimes I just have to forgetthat everyone's there and I
have to look over everyone andjust be in my own, my own world
and like be in the place that mydrama or my duo is.
A really like hard part is likepulling into the emotion and
like pulling it out of nowhere.
So like I have to be in my ownworld, in my own space and not
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worrying about what other peopleare thinking.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Yeah, that's what I do.
You work really hard at likereally immersing yourself into
your piece and your charactersand stuff.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
And I warm up with Lindsay, so that helps.
We should, okay, sidetrack, butwe share these.
We share like, two pairs ofheels that are like this tall,
one's tan and one's black, butthey're like tall.
They're stilettos too, yeah.
So the heel is like that thinand like that tall.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Heels are important.
The higher the heel, the morepowerful I feel.
That's our speech motto thisyear.
Yes, the higher the heel, themore powerful I feel.
Yes's our speech motto thisyear.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
The higher the heel, the more powerful I feel.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
We're the seniors, so we get to choose too.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
It feels to me like that would produce more anxiety,
just because isn't it moredifficult to walk around with
high heels?
I don't know, I guess I don'tknow.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
The only time I couldn't wear the high heels was
during my duo, when we had tospin back and forth from each
other.
But other than that, they'refine.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
I give speeches.
I just like I got the extentwalk going.
As long as I can walk a fewfeet in each direction, I'm good
.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
You're not doing karate kicks during your
extemporaneous speaking oranything like that Not
particularly Maybe duringimpromptu.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Maybe we should add that.
Maybe we should add that.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
All right.
So what about you, Lydia?
Are you also a high heelsperson?
Is this still your anxiety?
Speaker 3 (22:52):
I couldn't wear high heels all last year and it was
so sad because I had to falldown in my duo and I had to kick
people, I had to abuse myhusband.
Our team was traumatizing lastyear and I couldn't wear heels
so it was really sad.
But he did one meet and Iscuffed him up so bad and I was
never wearing heels again.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
But I'm going to this year, Even if my duo is violent
, but she has higher heels thanus.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
I'm gonna have the high heel experience this year,
senior year.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Gonna run back the high heel experience.
Oh yeah, I can't wait to seethe t-shirts, you know, with the
heels motto.
What was it again?
Speaker 2 (23:31):
The higher the heel, the more powerful I feel, the
more powerful I feel, the morepowerful I feel.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
yeah you all say in unison nice that's just us we're
just like on a wavelength manyeah, I'm feeling that it's
interesting uh, it's cool thatall three of you are going to be
seniors together too.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
that's exciting, uh.
And yeah, like I am interestedto hear about how speech and
debate helps you in like otherareas of your life academics and
other performance activitiesand friendships and stuff,
because I know all three of youare really successful in a lot
of other things too, so does doyou feel like speech and debate
has an impact on otheractivities and academics and
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stuff?
Speaker 3 (24:12):
We can start with you , lindsay 100% For
academics-wise, sophomore yearis our first year in school
where we have to actuallyperform speeches for people and
it was after our speech anddebate season, that unit and I
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remember everyone freaking out,everyone literally like I don't
even know how to describe theterror in all of these
sophomores eyes and I justremember getting up there and
just word vomiting and it wasthe easiest thing I've ever done
in my life.
We were allowed to have notecards.
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I want to say that I didn'tThank you very much, but so
there's that it's very easy inschool to speak, and not even
just speeches, but incollaborative classes when
you're doing discussions all thetime, I feel more confident,
given my opinion, I know how tostructure my responses, all of
that better and it makes mesound more intelligent just to
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know how to speak For otheractivities drama it also really
helped me out.
State drama I don't do likeperformative events I do
presentations for, likemarketing and stage management.
So for that season I had tospeak and it was so easy because
you have all of these stagemanagers who don't speak because
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they're stage managers Like,and that translated to me going
to the International Fesby andFestival, national Drama, where
I wasn't nervous to speak atthis national level because I'm
just so used to it, so Idefinitely would have not had
that confidence if I stayed withbasketball.
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So she did great, that's it.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
That's awesome, so cool.
Congratulations on thatperformance at the National
Thespian Festival.
That's what it's called, right.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
International Thespian Festival, the
international the inter-ianFestival.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
The international, the inter-universe, the
international.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
The multiverse, the multiverse, oh my.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
God, no, that's really cool.
So it was international.
There were people from all overthe world.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
I don't know why it's called that.
Was there I don't know I hearda couple people speaking
different languages.
I heard somebody speakingfrench.
I heard a couple, maybe I don'tknow, that's just what it's
called all the good stuff I'mnot gonna minimize it, I will.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
We will definitely stick with international.
I just thought it was kind offunny.
It's like the galaxy wide.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
I like the multiversal.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Yeah the multiversal.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
The multiverse.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
I like it, I love it.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
What about you, Lizzie?
Have you had some goodcrossover with skills and speech
and debate and other areas ofyour life?
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Something I love is just like the friendship and
like the family.
By the end of the season lastyear we had a lot of issues just
because we had been with eachother so much.
So that always happens.
But like I know, at the end ofthe day we can always come back
to each other and be like I'msorry, we're just a little tired
, I love you so much.
I'll text you in the morninglike like I always know that I
can have my people around me.
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Like because, like throughoutthe day I don't see like my
people much because we're all indifferent grades and different
um classes.
Like I didn't have any classeswith Lindsay last year, but like
I think I had like two withLydia or three.
But like I know at the end ofthe day we can go to like drama
practice or speech practice.
Like every day after school wehave something because we just
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cross right over into another,that I can just go see my people
and like just like theconfidence part helps to like
with what Lindsay said.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Yeah, for sure it is neat to some great relationships
, not just with your team butaround the state and stuff too.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Yeah, like I, recognize people like all around
and like.
I follow them on like,instagram and like.
We comment on each other'sstuff and like, but like we
always like, are so excited tosee each other when we see each
other at meets and like we'rereally close with, like the East
team, like a part of the Eastteam and Riverton.
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We've had people that we knowfrom Riverton.
It's like having a hype squad,right Like having a
international mult a hype squad,right like having a
international multiverse hypesquad yeah, and it's always so
fun to see them and likecatching them up on stuff and
like, even if we're not in likethe same, like class, like
school class we can like like westill hype each other up what
about for you, lydia?
Speaker 1 (28:48):
what do you think?
Has it helped you in somedifferent ways?
Speaker 3 (28:51):
oh yeah, speech in the basis helps me a lot because
get really anxious when I tryto talk to people.
I'm not great at talking topeople.
These two know that very wellfrom my freshman year when I
like didn't know how to interactwith people my age and then I
did speech and debate and Irealized, hey, this is kind of
easy, you just kind of yap.
You just kind of yap to them,and then they ask you and then
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you're like, yeah, and then it'sgreat.
And it also helps me get a jobbecause I was like, yes, just
yapping about my speech anddebate experience.
To my like, while in myinterview they were like, oh,
wow, oh, she's done, she's donelots of, lots of, lots of, lots
of cool stuff.
And then I was like, yeah, lotsof cool stuff.
And it also just helps meactually talk to customers
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because I'm in a customerservice job and like when they
make me mad, I just shove myfeelings down deep because I'm
like this is like in speech anddebate when I'm real anxious for
a run, you just shove it downand get through it.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Amen, some good stuff If you couldn't tell all three
of us are like D1 yappers, soit's good that you gave us lists
or criteria of what we neededto say, or we would have gone
off tangent, we would be herefor four hours, if not for the
schedule, the questions.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Maybe you three should like start your own
podcast.
I would definitely listen.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
The only listeners would be you and us, because
we're narcissistic and would belike I like how he said oh my
gosh, we're so funny that's ourtoxic trait that we all think
we're the funniest people alive.
Yeah, I say that at least likeonce a day definitely helps with
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your that's goodself-confidence.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
You know it's like self-affirmation, so that's good
, all right, so okay, moving on.
I guess I was gonna just mentionyou know, your school, bighorn,
has had some really great teamsin the last really six, eight
years, like I don't know.
Like I think for a long whilesince it started Bighorn's been
really competitive, but the lasttwo years back-to-back won A2A
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championships and that's reallyawesome.
There were two questions Iwanted to ask you about Bighorn.
One like what are you mostlooking forward to in the coming
season with your team?
But then also, like you know,what's it like to compete in a
small school?
I mean, I'm pretty aware I workin a small school, but I think
people might like to hear whatit's like to compete in speech
and debate in like a prettylittle school, like that sort of
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setting.
So what do you think, lindsay,what are you looking forward to?
What's it like, you know, beingin Bighorn?
Speaker 3 (31:36):
I'm um, I'm looking forward to being a senior and
doing all this.
First, because I don't know ifI mentioned it on here, but I
have a pretty open schedule mysenior year.
So I get to, I get to put a lotof my time towards speech,
towards our musicals, towardsdrama, and I'm excited to be
able to have that level of timeto truly lead, especially being
a a senior.
I'm excited to be able to helpthe freshmen, help the
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sophomores and be the mentorthat I always wanted, or that
Ian Garrison was Shout out.
I'm very excited about that.
I'm not trying to think of waysthat I'm going to change.
I don't know how to describethat.
I'm just going to do what Iknow what to do during the
season, but I'm excited for whatI can do outside of competition
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and towards our team, for ourschool competing in a small
school.
I don't want to badmouth anyother activities, but it is very
difficult to garner supportJust simply because it's hard.
It's not a spectator sport,it's not a, it's not something
that they can easily understandand help out with, or you can't
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understand unless you're in theroom with us, kind of thing.
So it is hard getting supportfrom students and even fellow
teachers, because they mighthave good intentions but it
doesn't feel that way sometimes.
But with the small school, likeI mentioned, like our drama,
our musical team, we're all thesame people.
So, like Lizzie mentioned, withthe relationships and
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friendships you make tenfoldbecause we are all together,
because we do the same things.
It's not just one activitythat's pretty cool, pretty
special.
Um also probably get kind oftired of each other at times,
but you know I don't know whatyour team does, but our bus
rides back from the tournamentsilent way there.
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We have music blasting on theway back.
We don't speak because we justare dumb.
We're like social interactionis just.
You hear like tiktoks in thedistance, but that's about it in
the distance yeah well I mean,I think, I think that sounds
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like a pretty universalistexperience.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
I think people, people get kind of wiped out on
each other and just socialbattery winds down.
Yeah, but yeah.
What about you, lizzie?
What are you looking forward tothis year?
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Yeah, I'm looking forward to help people put in
the work towards it Because,like my freshman year, I was
like, meh, this is just likesomething extra we can do.
But then, like, after we sawthat we could put in the work
and like do well, because we sawIan Garrison and another senior
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that graduated a couple ofyears ago that they almost made
it to nationals, were like wewant to do that.
So, like I want to help put thatspark and other kids that want
to put the effort in because,like I know that, like my
freshman year, I was like, butlike I want the spark to start
early for them.
Just like because, yeah, like Idon't, I wish I had the spark
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my freshman year so I didn'thave to like start putting in
the work my sophomore year inlike only three years, uh, yeah.
And like helping them find goodspeech pieces because, like it
can be really really hardfinding good speech pieces.
And another tip to Ian Garrisonhe was the best at finding
speech.
Okay, he was like our best teamcaptain like ever.
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Like yeah, so like he found thebest like pieces for everyone.
So like I know us three will beable to work together like
really well, um, and find piecesfor the younger ones that don't
know what they're doing quiteyet.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Lizzie, is there anything you want to say about
competing in a small school?
Oh yeah, have you enjoyed aboutit?
Like what's different about it?
Speaker 2 (35:32):
So this okay.
So some people like Lindsaysaid people oh word, vomit Okay.
People doubt us a lot and likepeople don't think we can like
do what we do well.
So like being able to like showthem what we can do well, like
getting state championships likeme, ian Garrison and Matthew
(35:52):
Alvarez made it to nationalslast year like being able to
show them all theaccomplishments that we have
done and will continue to do islike so rewarding just for like
our team and not being likestuck up or anything, but just
being like hey, we are a winningteam and we are something worth
looking at and like somethingworth putting your support into,
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even if you can't always see itnot to name names, but we have
a state championship and yoursports team doesn't, so sorry.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
A lot of politics.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Yep, it is a lot of politics because it's a small
school and it's like that'sanother fear of ours, like not
really performing but like beinglike bashed on.
I guess is like a fear everyyear of like oh, who's gonna
talk about us now?
Speaker 3 (36:44):
like who's gonna yeah our speech fears aren't really
speech fears aren't really inspeech itself.
It's yeah, everyone else, Idon't know external communities.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Yeah, it's just the politics of scary school and
like our community is great, but, like in the school, we have
issues and it's like I don'tknow how to help you.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
But and with like and we do it's.
I don't think a lot of peopleare intentionally being ignorant
or mean, but it's like withsome support it does feel
backhanded simply because theydon't make the effort to
understand.
So it's a weird dynamic where Ifeel bad.
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I don't want to villainizethese people because they don't
understand, but also it justdoesn't feel genuine sometimes.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Yeah, yeah.
Well, I mean, you want to bereal too.
I mean, if you feel that way,the only way things are going to
change is if it's communicated.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
So like it's a tricky thing and watched all our
events, even though some of ourpieces are a little harsh on
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topics, and he was just the bestprincipal and even though some
of the other faculty wasn'talways the best supporters he
was always there for us and hespoke up for us.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
That's awesome to have administrative support.
It's a big deal and a lot ofthings you're talking about our
culture.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
so hope maybe things can change, maybe things can get
better yeah, that's anotherthing I hope, like us three can
do as seniors is like change theculture a little bit, because,
like we got it.
We're big girls normally weonly have like one to two
seniors, but like now that wehave, I feel like we can be a
lot louder, especially since usthree can speak up a lot more.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Like, if you want to know our opinion.
Yeah, if you want to know.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Yeah, if you want to.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
I'm shocked that you're saying that right now.
It's not been my experiencetalking to you three at all.
Okay, let's let Lydia get aword in edgewise here.
What do you think?
What are you looking forward tothis year?
What's it like competing inBitcoin?
Speaker 3 (39:10):
I'm looking forward to just seeing what events I'm
going to do, because I did twoevents last year and that was
fun, but I'm looking to do morebecause, like I don't know, I've
got to expand my horizons, I'ma senior.
I I don't know, I gotta expandmy horizons, I'm a senior.
I might as well try somethingnew you know that's something
I'm looking forward to and justkind of like being able to have
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the experience of being a leader.
Because, ian Garrison, I reallygenuinely look up to him and
like I'm excited to just seewhat he saw essentially and like
it.
I'm excited to just see what hesaw essentially, um and like
competing in a small school.
There, we'll go to that one.
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That it's.
It's a whole new experience.
It's like it's weird becausepeople don't expect you to
succeed because you are a smallschool.
They're like oh you're small anda lot of small schools struggle
to get in and actually gettheir name out there, and now
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that Bitcoin kind of, has gottentheir name out there, we have a
target on our back and it'sjust about like keeping the team
big enough that you can do amultitude of events and get and
be successful, while alsokeeping it small enough to keep
it feeling like a community andnot like, oh, we're just getting
people, because we need bodieslike keeping it close but also
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successful.
It's a really hard balance andwe struggled last year, for sure
, with like balancing thesuccess and the culture and like
everything like that.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
but I think this year , I hope this year we will have
a better like bet with that,because we kind of know how to
deal with it this year and kindof how to like balance
everything and like going onwith, like culture and like the
balance summer is always ourbalance like we can always like
choose if we want to hang outall together or like take a step
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back and like take a breather,because it can be a lot when
you're with the same peopledoing every activity, yet
together for nine months well,I'm excited to see what happens
for you three this year and Ithink Bighorn's going to be in
for another really successful,awesome year, and I appreciate
you being here to help usnavigate the clapocalypse, even
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though all three of you areprobably not great in the actual
apocalypse, but that's okay.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
I'd like to close out .
Sorry, do you feel called outby that, lydia?
I'm sorry, you know.
I'd like to close out.
Sorry, do you feel called outby that, lydia?
I'm sorry, you know, one canlearn.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
That's fair.
Who knows?
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Well, I was including myself in that.
I don't have any skills.
I'd be a zero, so I'm notuseful.
I'm a good eater and that'sprobably a bad thing.
Yeah, yeah.
Not a good thing, but it isscary, like public speaking.
We talked about this a littlebit Like for the general public.
I mean, a lot of people wouldrather die than approach a
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microphone in front of a bunchof people and public speaking is
a very spooky thing for people.
So why is speech and debateworth the terror, the horror,
like?
What do you guys love about it?
What makes speech and debateworth the terror, the horror, uh
like?
Speaker 3 (42:26):
what do you guys love about it?
What makes it worthwhile?
What do you think, lindsey?
Um, it's so scary at first, butI get the absolute, such, a,
such a high after performing.
Um, I've talked about this afew times these two, but when I
come out of an extent roundespecially because extent is so
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like 30 minutes you do this, youdo this, you perform like it's
new.
Every time After I perform andI do even somewhat good I feel
on top of the world.
I will walk out of a round,walk up to Lizzie or Lydia and
go I'm better than you, I'mbetter than everyone here.
Walk up to Lizzie or Lydia andgo I'm better than you, I'm
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better than everyone here.
And not even in like a and Idon't even mean it in like an,
actually like I'm performingbetter than you, but I am, like,
mentally better than everyone,like on that level.
So for me, like it's like anaddiction.
Like everyone talks aboutrunners high, I get a speech
high.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
Like it's I don't even know how else to describe
it it's cray cray that's, that'ssomething, and like that, that
level of confidence it gives youis like awesome.
What about you, lizzie?
Speaker 2 (43:31):
um, so I have a fear of sports.
So, um, my fear is not publicspeaking, I'd love to talk.
I will talk for like us three.
If you put us in a room, we'vebeen up until like 3 am just
talking us three, so like wewill just talk forever.
But like horror story, uh, inlike fourth grade we were
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playing like a dodgeball gameand I wasn't really paying
attention and I got hit in theface with the dodgeball or like.
It was like one of thekickballs, it was like the fat
kickballs.
I got hit in the face and likefell back and I got a concussion
.
So like, from then on I don'twant to play sports.
So I do speech and debate and Ilove talking and I love just
being able to act and dosomething that is out of the box
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for me.
So like I do drama, that like,and I pick a piece that's like
nothing related to me at all soI can like do something new and
I can just express someoneelse's story.
Both times I've done like bothmy dramas.
I've done sophomore and junioryear.
We figured out towards the endof the season that they have
been true stories and then I endup crying because they're like
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I picked the most horrendousstories, like I don't mean to,
but like they just fit.
Like mmm, trauma, like mmm, letme just trauma dump on you real
quick, oh God, and then I'llwalk out of the room.
I'm like, hey guys, like how'sit going?
So I'd rather get up and speakin front of a bunch of people
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than have to like kick a ball orhit a bat or whatever you do
sounds like you're just kind ofpredisposed to this world.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
It's just kind of a good world for you, so that's
cool.
Yeah, what about you?
What about you, lydia?
What's, uh?
What are your thoughts on this?
Speaker 3 (45:22):
okay, I have really bad anxiety.
So when I go up to perform I'mlike I'm gonna throw up, I'm
gonna throw up, I'm gonna throwup, I'm gonna throw up.
I literally like every time wewould go to perform our duo, I
would tell ian garrison what ifI throw up?
What if I pee my pants?
I'm on stage, what what if Ipassed out?
I will say the most randomthings like what if I die while
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I'm performing, like mid-perform, but then when I get up there,
completely black out, I don'teven remember performing.
And then I get down and I'mlike like shaking so bad.
I don't know how I deal with it.
I just kind of don't.
I'm kind of like, yeah, andalso every morning, every
morning, without fail, jay willbe sitting down at breakfast,
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lizzie's dad and I'll come upand I'm like super tired.
So I look like dead and I goI'm going to quit.
I'll tell him every singlemorning I'm going to quit.
And he goes you quit, go ahead,have fun.
And I go, okay, and then I goperform.
And then I never quit because Ilove speaking to me.
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But it's just become a ritualat this point where it's like if
I don't say I'm gonna quit,I'll probably fail, so I just
have to might actually quit,like I might actually quit if I
don't say it.
I just kind of deal with it byby yapping about the most random
things.
What if I throw up on you whileI'm pretending to hit you right
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now?
Speaker 2 (46:53):
There's a story of Lydia performing and she started
off her junior year piece, herhumor, by going Hello.
And last year I don't think sheate breakfast and she went
hello.
Speaker 3 (47:07):
I'm here today and she's like I went to speak and
just nothing came out of mymouth.
I'm like gosh, so that's why Igo.
What if I throw?
Speaker 1 (47:24):
up.
Wow, I'm thinking about howbored Ian is going to be this
year not getting a chance towork with you on the regular.
I'm also wondering LindsayLizzie how many times do you
think you've heard Lydia say I'mgoing to quit?
Speaker 2 (47:39):
Over a million.
It's like without a doubt shelike gets off the bus, she gets
up in the morning, she gets outof a round literally anytime.
She'll be like I'm done, I'mquitting oh my gosh well, and
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then if it's out of, if it'sright out of a round and she
says that she ends up gettingfirst or second, without a doubt
.
And we're like Lydia, maybe youshould quit Sounds like it's
maybe a good luck charm.
Speaker 1 (48:15):
Better not stop, so you should probably quit this
year.
Speaker 3 (48:19):
I should probably quit.
Not really, don't really quit,I don probably stop.
No, lindsay, not really it'ssuperstition, don't really?
Speaker 1 (48:27):
I feel like donuts.
Thanks so much to Lindsay,lizzie and Lydia for doing the
podcast here at Camp Unclap.
We had so much fun and it wassome great stuff that they had
to share.
What's going down at camptomorrow?
Well, tomorrow, dear friends,shall be a day of rest.
I still have some social mediachallenges that I'll post for
tomorrow, but no releasedpodcast content.
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We'll be back with content onSunday, though.
Oh, and this weekend, if youhappen to have a vegetarian
zombie over for dinner, don'tforget what they most like to
eat Grains For Camp One Clap.
This is Camp Director Wileysigning off.
Hey campers.
We're surviving deep into theclapocalypse here at Camp One
Clap.
Here on day nine, we've beenvisited by Lindsay Walker,
lizzie Arcarice and LydiaMarhoff a trio of talented
bighorn speech and debaters whoare here to share advice and
inspiration for overcoming fearsin performance.
I'm your camp director and hostof the One Clap Speech and
(00:30):
Debate podcast, lyle Wiley.
I hope that Camp One Clap hasbeen a source of inspiration and
encouragement for speech anddebate competitors and coaches
this August.
Quick reminder check the OneClap socials for today's social
media challenge.
Thank you to everyone who'sbeen out there engaging with the
challenges.
It's been a lot of fun.
Let me take a moment before ourinterview to tell you a little
bit about our guests here atcamp today.
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Lindsay Walker is an upcomingsenior for the Bighorn High
School Speech and Debate Team.
She's a 2A state champion fororatory and a two-time 2A state
champion team member.
While her main event is oratory, she has competed in extemp,
impromptu and congress.
She took the jump fromathletics to speech and debate
her sophomore year and couldn'tbe more satisfied with her
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decision.
Lizzie Arcariz has been a partof speech and debate for three
years at Bighorn High School.
Her main events are duo anddrama interpretation.
In 2023, she qualified andcompeted in drama interpretation
for the National Speech andDebate Tournament.
She has also helped her team totwo state championship titles
in 2023 and 2024.
She's going into her senioryear and is excited to compete
(01:35):
in her last year, once to giveit her all.
Lydia Morhoff is an upcomingsenior on the Bighorn High
School Speech and Debate teamand her main speech events are
duo and humor.
She can't wait to bring somefun into the speech world and
share some secrets of how toovercome challenges that come
with the stress of speech.
All right, strap in and getready for my interview with
Bighorn Speech and Debate starsLindsay, lizzie and Lydia.
(01:58):
Welcome to Camp One.
Clap to the Clapocalypse with.
Well, we've got.
Lindsay Walker, lizzie Arcarice, lydia Marhoff Welcome all
three of you.
You're all from Bighorn.
Thank you for coming on thepodcast.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Thanks for having us.
Yeah, thanks for having us.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I'm really excited to talk with you.
I've seen you all attournaments.
I've had an opportunity to seea couple of you compete.
You're all fabulous and statechampions this year and I'm
excited to hear your perspectiveon some stuff.
But before we get startedtalking about speech and debate,
I want to tap into your fear.
So yeah, lindsay, what's yourfavorite?
Scary story, like a movie, abook, a spoken story what's your
(02:40):
favorite?
Speaker 3 (02:41):
I love all horror movies, but when I think of a
scary story, I think ofelementary school, the scary
stories books, and specificallythe one with that one lady with
the green ribbon around her neckand they're like she's never
taken it off and then she'sdecapitated.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
she's gone no head or a head, but not connected it's
pretty scary and I know exactlywhich story you're talking about
, because it scarred me just thesame as it scarred everybody
else, I think because I just Ivividly remember being on the
playground and I I don't know ifit was lydia, but someone told
me it.
I was like my god it stilltraumatizes you, to this day
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that's a core memory for me.
Honestly just hardcore.
So what about you lizzie?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
you got a favorite scary story not really lindsey's
the connoisseur on like horrorand like scary stories.
I normally stay away from thatstuff because I'm like not my
damn but like I love likereading all the old like
original disney stories thatlike are technically horror.
I don't know if it's actuallyhorror, but where Cinderella's
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stepsisters chop off their feet.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yeah, original fairy tales went hard.
They were not chill.
There was no chill at all, yeah, good point, those are pretty
scary, some of them the originalLittle Mermaid.
Not a tale to tell your kids.
I don't think some scary stuff.
So, lydia, what is yourfavorite scary story?
Speaker 3 (04:11):
I don't know, I don't really listen to scary stories,
to be honest watch horrormovies together.
What are you talking about?
Yeah, my favorite I guess, theone that traumatized me the most
was Barbarian for sure, oh myGod, lindsay remembers Barbarian
.
It's not PG enough to discuss,it's like gory, it's horrible.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Lizzie was not invited no.
Lizzie wouldn't have been ableto handle that.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
No, lizzie would have just died, I think, just like
on the spot.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Well, this will segue nicely into my next question,
which is about your potentialsurvival in a post-apocalyptic
wasteland.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
So if we were?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
to have some sort of apocalyptic event and the world
gets turned upside down maybe azombie apocalypse or something
like that, something out of adystopian novel on a scale of
one to ten.
How likely do you think youwould survive and do you bring
any skills to the table in theevent of the apocalypse?
We can start with you, lindsay.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Zero.
I don't want to survive anapocalypse.
Everyone wants to be the heroand not everyone can be Katniss
Everdeen Fair.
That doesn't even seemenjoyable.
I barely like camping.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Okay, so Lindsay's a zero.
Do you have any skills thatyou'd bring to the table at the
event of the apocalypse?
Speaker 3 (05:44):
I guess I could talk to people.
You're very down to earth.
You could definitely be likeguys, let's not do that, because
that would kill us.
But people aren't going to benice in apocalypse.
But, they might listen to you Imean you've got a powerful
voice.
I'd listen to Lindsay in anapocalypse.
It's like I could lead, I guess, but I don't want to.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Gotcha, so definitely don't want to be in the bunker
with you.
Let's go to Lizzie.
Lizzie, what about you?
What do you think?
What are your odds of survival?
And then, what do you bring tothe table?
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Probably like I don't know, a five.
It's like 50-50.
I don't know, maybe not a five,it's like 50, 50, I don't know,
maybe not.
Um lizzie would get glued onthe first day probably.
I have a thousand differentallergies so it's like really
easy to kill me like with, likefood or like medicine.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
But like I also was a girl scout for 10 years, so
like I have some outdoorsurvival skills oh, I mean,
that's a fair mix and, you know,maybe will the survival just
kick in in that situation.
But yeah, the allergies couldbe a problem.
Yeah, that could be bad.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
If you didn't have your allergies, do you think it
would be better for you?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
I think it would still be a 50-50 chance.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
I think Lydia.
Maybe Lydia's our best, bestchance here.
What do you think, lydia?
Do you think you would have abetter chance?
Speaker 3 (07:10):
well, I know, I know how to.
I've like read a bunch of stuffabout, like outdoor survival,
so like I know, but I don't knowif I could put it into practice
.
I give myself like maybe a fiveand a half.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Five and a half.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah, it's solid.
It's like over halfway.
I'd be like maybe, but like Idon't know, I feel like I'd go
insane.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
I don't think speech and debate.
People are probably the mostlikely to survive in these kinds
of situations like, at leastnot talking to the folks that
well, not the people I've talkedto.
It seems like we're mostlytalkers, not really hardcore
hunters, foragers, gatherers.
So all three of you, how didyou?
How did you get into speech,debate, what, what brought you
in?
What made you stick around?
Speaker 3 (07:58):
we'll start with you, lindsey it was a sports girly
for five years of my life Iwould have.
I made fun of speech and debatekids.
I made fun of kids in theater.
And then freshman year, myfirst year of high school
basketball I hated it.
And so sophomore year, I hatedvolleyball too that season.
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So I'm complaining to our coach, mr mr olsen, like during band
class and he's like you could dospeech and debate and that's an
excuse not to do basketball.
That is so embarrassing.
But I did it and here I amyou're not still embarrassed,
right?
only only okay okay, fair.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
What about you lizzie ?
What?
How'd you get involved in this,uh, this terrifying universe?
Speaker 2 (08:49):
so I've heard about speech and debate since I was
young, because my dad did it incollege.
So when he heard bighorn had ateam, he's like you have to do
it.
I don't care what else you'replanning on doing in high school
, you gotta do it.
So I was like okay.
So freshman year I was brandnew to big horn and I started it
.
And here we are I mean you'rehaving a good time right yeah,
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and my dad's one of my coachesnow, so that's quite the
experience I'm sure it is.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yeah, yeah, um, and from talking with your friends
here, uh seems like it's never adull moment.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
No, lydia and I convinced the crap out of
Lindsay Join us in speech anddebate.
It was a struggle, yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
But they got you, they got you.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
You get to hang out with us every week.
It's like a cult.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
We are a cult, let's be so familiar.
We are a cult.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
For sure, for sure.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
So, Lydia, are you like a?
Speaker 3 (09:48):
founding member of the cult.
How did you get involved?
Uh, so I joined my freshmanyear.
I really don't know.
I think I was like ian garrisonwas like I idolized him.
I was like, oh my gosh, he's socool, I gotta be in every
everything that he's in.
Because I wanted to be as coolas Ian Garrison.
And so I joined and was not sosuccessful.
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My freshman year I did drama.
That was my only event.
I didn't know how to act, so Ikind of just spoke my piece.
I didn't do well in any senseof the word, but it was just
really fun.
I was like, well, I get to hangout with a bunch of cool people
and I get to like have lots offun on the weekends and I get to
like get away from everythingfor a little while.
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And so the rest is history.
I did a duo with Ian Garrison,the king himself.
I did two in a row with him andI just never looked back.
It's it's such a coolexperience and I realized, like
this is something I want to be apart of for the long run, like
this is super cool, and so yeah,so, like, let's talk about your
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events.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
We're kind of dipping into that a little bit already.
But, Lindsay, what kind ofevents have you competed in?
What do you like the best?
What's your favorite?
Speaker 3 (11:10):
I've done.
I did Congress once, a singulartime, not a fan, not a fan, but
I do Extempt Impromptu andOratory.
Those are my three.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Sweet, all right, cool.
You know that Impromptu isgoing to be like a main event
this year, right?
Speaker 3 (11:22):
know, I heard that I'm excited because it's always,
it's always like a gamble whenolsen, when our coach is like
they'll have it here, they'llhave it at this meet, and I'm
like okay, yeah, I think mostteams will make a pretty solid
effort to to have it now becauseit'll be a state event, so that
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should be good.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Okay, cool, um, what's your favorite?
Speaker 3 (11:47):
oh okay, I love it's between oratory and extemp.
They're like my kids, because Idid, I've done extemp.
Oratory was right.
Junior year was my first yeardoing oratory but I've done
extemp since the beginning andI've worked through extents a
lot longer.
So I I feel a lot morecloseness to extents, like a lot
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more pride to it, but I enjoylike performing my oratory more,
my oratory pieces more.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Okay, okay, cool.
What about you, lizzie?
What events have you done andwhat's your favorite?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
So almost everyone on our team has been congress.
It's like if you're new to theteam, olsen's like congress,
like that's easy, you can do it,no, so?
no one ends up liking it, exceptgideon.
Gideon has been the only personon our team that's liked to
congress.
Anyways, I've been in congressimpromptu drama and duo and I
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think I loved my duo my junioryear this past year because of
my duo partner.
If we messed up at all, wecould get each other back on
track and pick each other backup.
She was the best duo partner.
One time we messed up our wholepiece and missed our intro and
still got second in the round.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
I don't know how that happened, and I didn't even
notice it watching so you justhad dynamite chemistry with your
duo partner?
Speaker 1 (13:17):
yeah, we worked really well together.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
and then drama, I think, is my favorite because I
can pull out all the emotionthat I can pull from myself and
I qualified to nationals withthat.
So I think drama would have tobe my favorite.
But I love duo if I get a group.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Cool, Cool.
Well, what about you, Lydia?
What are your events?
I'm guessing you did Congress.
Oh gosh.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
I was the only one who didn't do Congress.
Pretty much I always had anevent.
I did drama my freshman yearand then duo my sophomore and
junior years and then I didhumor this past year.
I have a love-hate relationshipwith humor, for sure.
I love doing humor.
It's a lot of fun to do mypiece, but I don't think I'm
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funny, so I'm like I don'tunderstand why I'm doing so.
Well, I hate this.
This is weird and also humor isreally a hit or miss with like
the piece that you do.
So it's really hard to get likea lot of like really really
funny pieces, because there'snot a lot of really really funny
pieces out there that's what Ithink at least.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
So what do you think is your favorite then?
Speaker 3 (14:34):
duo is definitely my favorite.
I love duo.
But it was just because iangarrison and I have a lot.
We have it's like lizzie andbella like got.
We got the like stage chemistrythat makes it like really easy
to do a duo with this person.
And also we're both like very,very committed, so it was really
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easy to like fall into the flow.
But I'm nervous this yearbecause I don't know who I'm
going to do a duo with And'm sosad because my partner graduated
.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
But it's still definitely a favorite of mine
yeah, that is like hard, but italso means that there's exciting
stuff in the future.
You'll get to try it out withsomebody different, so hopefully
it's going to work out andyou'll have a great time.
Before we talk about overcomingscary things in speech and
debate, which probably mayinvolve trying to navigate a new
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duo partner for Lydia, I dowant to take a spooky, ghostly
interlude and ask you guys aboutghosts in the paranormal.
Are you believers?
Do you think that ghosts arereal?
What do you think, lindsay?
Speaker 3 (15:41):
No, I feel like people are just kidding
themselves.
Like it's like for me it's likeconspiracy theories can be fun,
but like, at the end of the day, like you know, they're not
real like and people who arereally passionate about it
actually piss me off becauseit's just so annoying.
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Off because it's just soannoying.
It's like you'll never know howdo I explain this.
I'm never gonna bring up that Idon't believe in ghosts, but if
someone does believe in ghosts,you're gonna know almost
immediately having aconversation with them.
Like it's like, shut up oh my,maybe I shouldn't have started
with you, l Lindsay, because nowLizzie and Lydia are both
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probably like well, I better notsay anything, I'm only saying
this because I have a familymember who swears that the place
he works is haunted and he hasADHD, so it's like maybe he just
got distracted.
That's my vendetta.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Lindsaysey, that's horrible.
Understandable, I guess.
What do you think, lizzie?
Are you a paranormal believer?
Speaker 2 (16:55):
no, not really.
I have to agree with lindsey,but I'm not as passionate about
it.
I'm like I don't really believein them, but I don't know how
to explain all the weird thingsthat have gone on in every
single theater that I've been in.
Like there's just weird thingsthat go on in theaters.
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That's different.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Theater.
Ghosts exist.
No other ghosts exist.
I didn't know that was a partof this conversation.
I didn't know our theatersuperstitions were being brought
into this.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
An interesting turn, Okay.
So what about you, Lydia?
What do you think?
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Yeah, for me.
Personally, I don't even knowabout any of the paranormal, I
just don't care enough.
I'm like, if a ghost is aroundme, cool, have fun, go crazy bro
, but like I don't know, I justdon't have enough passion for
that to be like no or yes.
It's like I don't know.
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Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Lizzie Got it All right.
Well, it sounds like not abeliever group, nor a group that
really cares about it all thatmuch, except for, possibly,
theater ghosts.
So speech and debate, though,can be pretty scary.
I mean, it's not easy to putyourself out there and perform
and speak your heart tostrangers and all that stuff
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that goes into what you do.
So how do you overcome yourfears and anxieties to excel in
the speech and debate world?
I want to hear some of yourstories, like how you guys feel
about fear, and how you caneither use it in a positive or
negative way.
Uh, what do you guys think,lindsay?
What about you?
How do you overcome fears andanxieties?
Are you, or do you just nothave any?
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Like, oh, I have some , so let me tell a story.
So I so I played.
I played sports and ourbasketball season my freshman
year sucked and I hated it.
And playing a sport in front ofpeople, I hated the feeling
because I knew we weren't goodAll of that.
So when I was transitioning tospeech and debate, I was like,
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oh, this is going to be fine,like it can't be that bad.
It was.
It was my first extant round.
I walk out and I'm like in mylittle heels and I'm like
sniffling, as I'm like walkingto our table.
I ended up doing well,apparently that transition was
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very shocking to me.
I do for nerves because, likemy stomach gets all twisted.
I've learned that sprinting inheels down a hallway really
boosts your confidence, likebecause, like warm-ups before
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games for sports, like you, youwarm up, you get ready.
I started doing that in speechand then I also I also get
sturdy in my heels and that'slike a dance move You're not
going to understand.
Would you like to demonstrate?
I mean no, no, yeah.
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So I do that.
The higher the heel, the better.
I think just heels in generalmake me feel better about
performing.
I don't know why.
And then, as soon as I'm infront of an audience, I just
black out honestly and I just doit yeah yeah, okay, well, I
can't say that.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
I've tried running down hallways or sprinting in
hallways and heels.
Like I might have to give thata shot, see if it helps you, you
should try it.
What about you, Lizzie?
How do you deal?
You got any stories.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
I've been performing on stage since I was five, so I
feel like that has really helpedme like go into speech and
debate and be able to perform infront of people.
What's more scary is thatthey're right in front of you
and not like in the audiencewhere you can't see them.
They're like right in front ofyou so you have like I make eye
contact sometimes during myspeech piece and like sometimes
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that messes me up, I don't know,I don't know.
Sometimes I just have to forgetthat everyone's there and I
have to look over everyone andjust be in my own, my own world
and like be in the place that mydrama or my duo is.
A really like hard part is likepulling into the emotion and
like pulling it out of nowhere.
So like I have to be in my ownworld, in my own space and not
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worrying about what other peopleare thinking.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Yeah, that's what I do.
You work really hard at likereally immersing yourself into
your piece and your charactersand stuff.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
And I warm up with Lindsay, so that helps.
We should, okay, sidetrack, butwe share these.
We share like, two pairs ofheels that are like this tall,
one's tan and one's black, butthey're like tall.
They're stilettos too, yeah.
So the heel is like that thinand like that tall.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Heels are important.
The higher the heel, the morepowerful I feel.
That's our speech motto thisyear.
Yes, the higher the heel, themore powerful I feel.
Yes's our speech motto thisyear.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
The higher the heel, the more powerful I feel.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
We're the seniors, so we get to choose too.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
It feels to me like that would produce more anxiety,
just because isn't it moredifficult to walk around with
high heels?
I don't know, I guess I don'tknow.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
The only time I couldn't wear the high heels was
during my duo, when we had tospin back and forth from each
other.
But other than that, they'refine.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
I give speeches.
I just like I got the extentwalk going.
As long as I can walk a fewfeet in each direction, I'm good
.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
You're not doing karate kicks during your
extemporaneous speaking oranything like that Not
particularly Maybe duringimpromptu.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Maybe we should add that.
Maybe we should add that.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
All right.
So what about you, Lydia?
Are you also a high heelsperson?
Is this still your anxiety?
Speaker 3 (22:52):
I couldn't wear high heels all last year and it was
so sad because I had to falldown in my duo and I had to kick
people, I had to abuse myhusband.
Our team was traumatizing lastyear and I couldn't wear heels
so it was really sad.
But he did one meet and Iscuffed him up so bad and I was
never wearing heels again.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
But I'm going to this year, Even if my duo is violent
, but she has higher heels thanus.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
I'm gonna have the high heel experience this year,
senior year.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Gonna run back the high heel experience.
Oh yeah, I can't wait to seethe t-shirts, you know, with the
heels motto.
What was it again?
Speaker 2 (23:31):
The higher the heel, the more powerful I feel, the
more powerful I feel, the morepowerful I feel.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
yeah you all say in unison nice that's just us we're
just like on a wavelength manyeah, I'm feeling that it's
interesting uh, it's cool thatall three of you are going to be
seniors together too.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
that's exciting, uh.
And yeah, like I am interestedto hear about how speech and
debate helps you in like otherareas of your life academics and
other performance activitiesand friendships and stuff,
because I know all three of youare really successful in a lot
of other things too, so does doyou feel like speech and debate
has an impact on otheractivities and academics and
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stuff?
Speaker 3 (24:12):
We can start with you , lindsay 100% For
academics-wise, sophomore yearis our first year in school
where we have to actuallyperform speeches for people and
it was after our speech anddebate season, that unit and I
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remember everyone freaking out,everyone literally like I don't
even know how to describe theterror in all of these
sophomores eyes and I justremember getting up there and
just word vomiting and it wasthe easiest thing I've ever done
in my life.
We were allowed to have notecards.
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I want to say that I didn'tThank you very much, but so
there's that it's very easy inschool to speak, and not even
just speeches, but incollaborative classes when
you're doing discussions all thetime, I feel more confident,
given my opinion, I know how tostructure my responses, all of
that better and it makes mesound more intelligent just to
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know how to speak For otheractivities drama it also really
helped me out.
State drama I don't do likeperformative events I do
presentations for, likemarketing and stage management.
So for that season I had tospeak and it was so easy because
you have all of these stagemanagers who don't speak because
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they're stage managers Like,and that translated to me going
to the International Fesby andFestival, national Drama, where
I wasn't nervous to speak atthis national level because I'm
just so used to it, so Idefinitely would have not had
that confidence if I stayed withbasketball.
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So she did great, that's it.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
That's awesome, so cool.
Congratulations on thatperformance at the National
Thespian Festival.
That's what it's called, right.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
International Thespian Festival, the
international the inter-ianFestival.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
The international, the inter-universe, the
international.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
The multiverse, the multiverse, oh my.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
God, no, that's really cool.
So it was international.
There were people from all overthe world.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
I don't know why it's called that.
Was there I don't know I hearda couple people speaking
different languages.
I heard somebody speakingfrench.
I heard a couple, maybe I don'tknow, that's just what it's
called all the good stuff I'mnot gonna minimize it, I will.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
We will definitely stick with international.
I just thought it was kind offunny.
It's like the galaxy wide.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
I like the multiversal.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Yeah the multiversal.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
The multiverse.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
I like it, I love it.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
What about you, Lizzie?
Have you had some goodcrossover with skills and speech
and debate and other areas ofyour life?
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Something I love is just like the friendship and
like the family.
By the end of the season lastyear we had a lot of issues just
because we had been with eachother so much.
So that always happens.
But like I know, at the end ofthe day we can always come back
to each other and be like I'msorry, we're just a little tired
, I love you so much.
I'll text you in the morninglike like I always know that I
can have my people around me.
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Like because, like throughoutthe day I don't see like my
people much because we're all indifferent grades and different
um classes.
Like I didn't have any classeswith Lindsay last year, but like
I think I had like two withLydia or three.
But like I know at the end ofthe day we can go to like drama
practice or speech practice.
Like every day after school wehave something because we just
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cross right over into another,that I can just go see my people
and like just like theconfidence part helps to like
with what Lindsay said.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Yeah, for sure it is neat to some great relationships
, not just with your team butaround the state and stuff too.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Yeah, like I, recognize people like all around
and like.
I follow them on like,instagram and like.
We comment on each other'sstuff and like, but like we
always like, are so excited tosee each other when we see each
other at meets and like we'rereally close with, like the East
team, like a part of the Eastteam and Riverton.
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We've had people that we knowfrom Riverton.
It's like having a hype squad,right Like having a
international mult a hype squad,right like having a
international multiverse hypesquad yeah, and it's always so
fun to see them and likecatching them up on stuff and
like, even if we're not in likethe same, like class, like
school class we can like like westill hype each other up what
about for you, lydia?
Speaker 1 (28:48):
what do you think?
Has it helped you in somedifferent ways?
Speaker 3 (28:51):
oh yeah, speech in the basis helps me a lot because
get really anxious when I tryto talk to people.
I'm not great at talking topeople.
These two know that very wellfrom my freshman year when I
like didn't know how to interactwith people my age and then I
did speech and debate and Irealized, hey, this is kind of
easy, you just kind of yap.
You just kind of yap to them,and then they ask you and then
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you're like, yeah, and then it'sgreat.
And it also helps me get a jobbecause I was like, yes, just
yapping about my speech anddebate experience.
To my like, while in myinterview they were like, oh,
wow, oh, she's done, she's donelots of, lots of, lots of, lots
of cool stuff.
And then I was like, yeah, lotsof cool stuff.
And it also just helps meactually talk to customers
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because I'm in a customerservice job and like when they
make me mad, I just shove myfeelings down deep because I'm
like this is like in speech anddebate when I'm real anxious for
a run, you just shove it downand get through it.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Amen, some good stuff If you couldn't tell all three
of us are like D1 yappers, soit's good that you gave us lists
or criteria of what we neededto say, or we would have gone
off tangent, we would be herefor four hours, if not for the
schedule, the questions.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Maybe you three should like start your own
podcast.
I would definitely listen.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
The only listeners would be you and us, because
we're narcissistic and would belike I like how he said oh my
gosh, we're so funny that's ourtoxic trait that we all think
we're the funniest people alive.
Yeah, I say that at least likeonce a day definitely helps with
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your that's goodself-confidence.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
You know it's like self-affirmation, so that's good
, all right, so okay, moving on.
I guess I was gonna just mentionyou know, your school, bighorn,
has had some really great teamsin the last really six, eight
years, like I don't know.
Like I think for a long whilesince it started Bighorn's been
really competitive, but the lasttwo years back-to-back won A2A
(31:05):
championships and that's reallyawesome.
There were two questions Iwanted to ask you about Bighorn.
One like what are you mostlooking forward to in the coming
season with your team?
But then also, like you know,what's it like to compete in a
small school?
I mean, I'm pretty aware I workin a small school, but I think
people might like to hear whatit's like to compete in speech
and debate in like a prettylittle school, like that sort of
(31:25):
setting.
So what do you think, lindsay,what are you looking forward to?
What's it like, you know, beingin Bighorn?
Speaker 3 (31:36):
I'm um, I'm looking forward to being a senior and
doing all this.
First, because I don't know ifI mentioned it on here, but I
have a pretty open schedule mysenior year.
So I get to, I get to put a lotof my time towards speech,
towards our musicals, towardsdrama, and I'm excited to be
able to have that level of timeto truly lead, especially being
a a senior.
I'm excited to be able to helpthe freshmen, help the
(31:58):
sophomores and be the mentorthat I always wanted, or that
Ian Garrison was Shout out.
I'm very excited about that.
I'm not trying to think of waysthat I'm going to change.
I don't know how to describethat.
I'm just going to do what Iknow what to do during the
season, but I'm excited for whatI can do outside of competition
(32:23):
and towards our team, for ourschool competing in a small
school.
I don't want to badmouth anyother activities, but it is very
difficult to garner supportJust simply because it's hard.
It's not a spectator sport,it's not a, it's not something
that they can easily understandand help out with, or you can't
(32:49):
understand unless you're in theroom with us, kind of thing.
So it is hard getting supportfrom students and even fellow
teachers, because they mighthave good intentions but it
doesn't feel that way sometimes.
But with the small school, likeI mentioned, like our drama,
our musical team, we're all thesame people.
So, like Lizzie mentioned, withthe relationships and
(33:10):
friendships you make tenfoldbecause we are all together,
because we do the same things.
It's not just one activitythat's pretty cool, pretty
special.
Um also probably get kind oftired of each other at times,
but you know I don't know whatyour team does, but our bus
rides back from the tournamentsilent way there.
(33:31):
We have music blasting on theway back.
We don't speak because we justare dumb.
We're like social interactionis just.
You hear like tiktoks in thedistance, but that's about it in
the distance yeah well I mean,I think, I think that sounds
(33:52):
like a pretty universalistexperience.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
I think people, people get kind of wiped out on
each other and just socialbattery winds down.
Yeah, but yeah.
What about you, lizzie?
What are you looking forward tothis year?
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Yeah, I'm looking forward to help people put in
the work towards it Because,like my freshman year, I was
like, meh, this is just likesomething extra we can do.
But then, like, after we sawthat we could put in the work
and like do well, because we sawIan Garrison and another senior
(34:25):
that graduated a couple ofyears ago that they almost made
it to nationals, were like wewant to do that.
So, like I want to help put thatspark and other kids that want
to put the effort in because,like I know that, like my
freshman year, I was like, butlike I want the spark to start
early for them.
Just like because, yeah, like Idon't, I wish I had the spark
(34:48):
my freshman year so I didn'thave to like start putting in
the work my sophomore year inlike only three years, uh, yeah.
And like helping them find goodspeech pieces because, like it
can be really really hardfinding good speech pieces.
And another tip to Ian Garrisonhe was the best at finding
speech.
Okay, he was like our best teamcaptain like ever.
(35:09):
Like yeah, so like he found thebest like pieces for everyone.
So like I know us three will beable to work together like
really well, um, and find piecesfor the younger ones that don't
know what they're doing quiteyet.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Lizzie, is there anything you want to say about
competing in a small school?
Oh yeah, have you enjoyed aboutit?
Like what's different about it?
Speaker 2 (35:32):
So this okay.
So some people like Lindsaysaid people oh word, vomit Okay.
People doubt us a lot and likepeople don't think we can like
do what we do well.
So like being able to like showthem what we can do well, like
getting state championships likeme, ian Garrison and Matthew
(35:52):
Alvarez made it to nationalslast year like being able to
show them all theaccomplishments that we have
done and will continue to do islike so rewarding just for like
our team and not being likestuck up or anything, but just
being like hey, we are a winningteam and we are something worth
looking at and like somethingworth putting your support into,
(36:15):
even if you can't always see itnot to name names, but we have
a state championship and yoursports team doesn't, so sorry.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
A lot of politics.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Yep, it is a lot of politics because it's a small
school and it's like that'sanother fear of ours, like not
really performing but like beinglike bashed on.
I guess is like a fear everyyear of like oh, who's gonna
talk about us now?
Speaker 3 (36:44):
like who's gonna yeah our speech fears aren't really
speech fears aren't really inspeech itself.
It's yeah, everyone else, Idon't know external communities.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Yeah, it's just the politics of scary school and
like our community is great, but, like in the school, we have
issues and it's like I don'tknow how to help you.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
But and with like and we do it's.
I don't think a lot of peopleare intentionally being ignorant
or mean, but it's like withsome support it does feel
backhanded simply because theydon't make the effort to
understand.
So it's a weird dynamic where Ifeel bad.
(37:30):
I don't want to villainizethese people because they don't
understand, but also it justdoesn't feel genuine sometimes.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Yeah, yeah.
Well, I mean, you want to bereal too.
I mean, if you feel that way,the only way things are going to
change is if it's communicated.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
So like it's a tricky thing and watched all our
events, even though some of ourpieces are a little harsh on
(38:08):
topics, and he was just the bestprincipal and even though some
of the other faculty wasn'talways the best supporters he
was always there for us and hespoke up for us.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
That's awesome to have administrative support.
It's a big deal and a lot ofthings you're talking about our
culture.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
so hope maybe things can change, maybe things can get
better yeah, that's anotherthing I hope, like us three can
do as seniors is like change theculture a little bit, because,
like we got it.
We're big girls normally weonly have like one to two
seniors, but like now that wehave, I feel like we can be a
lot louder, especially since usthree can speak up a lot more.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Like, if you want to know our opinion.
Yeah, if you want to know.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Yeah, if you want to.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
I'm shocked that you're saying that right now.
It's not been my experiencetalking to you three at all.
Okay, let's let Lydia get aword in edgewise here.
What do you think?
What are you looking forward tothis year?
What's it like competing inBitcoin?
Speaker 3 (39:10):
I'm looking forward to just seeing what events I'm
going to do, because I did twoevents last year and that was
fun, but I'm looking to do morebecause, like I don't know, I've
got to expand my horizons, I'ma senior.
I I don't know, I gotta expandmy horizons, I'm a senior.
I might as well try somethingnew you know that's something
I'm looking forward to and justkind of like being able to have
(39:31):
the experience of being a leader.
Because, ian Garrison, I reallygenuinely look up to him and
like I'm excited to just seewhat he saw essentially and like
it.
I'm excited to just see what hesaw essentially, um and like
competing in a small school.
There, we'll go to that one.
(39:51):
That it's.
It's a whole new experience.
It's like it's weird becausepeople don't expect you to
succeed because you are a smallschool.
They're like oh you're small anda lot of small schools struggle
to get in and actually gettheir name out there, and now
(40:15):
that Bitcoin kind of, has gottentheir name out there, we have a
target on our back and it'sjust about like keeping the team
big enough that you can do amultitude of events and get and
be successful, while alsokeeping it small enough to keep
it feeling like a community andnot like, oh, we're just getting
people, because we need bodieslike keeping it close but also
(40:39):
successful.
It's a really hard balance andwe struggled last year, for sure
, with like balancing thesuccess and the culture and like
everything like that.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
but I think this year , I hope this year we will have
a better like bet with that,because we kind of know how to
deal with it this year and kindof how to like balance
everything and like going onwith, like culture and like the
balance summer is always ourbalance like we can always like
choose if we want to hang outall together or like take a step
(41:14):
back and like take a breather,because it can be a lot when
you're with the same peopledoing every activity, yet
together for nine months well,I'm excited to see what happens
for you three this year and Ithink Bighorn's going to be in
for another really successful,awesome year, and I appreciate
you being here to help usnavigate the clapocalypse, even
(41:35):
though all three of you areprobably not great in the actual
apocalypse, but that's okay.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
I'd like to close out .
Sorry, do you feel called outby that, lydia?
I'm sorry, you know.
I'd like to close out.
Sorry, do you feel called outby that, lydia?
I'm sorry, you know, one canlearn.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
That's fair.
Who knows?
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Well, I was including myself in that.
I don't have any skills.
I'd be a zero, so I'm notuseful.
I'm a good eater and that'sprobably a bad thing.
Yeah, yeah.
Not a good thing, but it isscary, like public speaking.
We talked about this a littlebit Like for the general public.
I mean, a lot of people wouldrather die than approach a
(42:12):
microphone in front of a bunchof people and public speaking is
a very spooky thing for people.
So why is speech and debateworth the terror, the horror,
like?
What do you guys love about it?
What makes speech and debateworth the terror, the horror, uh
like?
Speaker 3 (42:26):
what do you guys love about it?
What makes it worthwhile?
What do you think, lindsey?
Um, it's so scary at first, butI get the absolute, such, a,
such a high after performing.
Um, I've talked about this afew times these two, but when I
come out of an extent roundespecially because extent is so
(42:47):
like 30 minutes you do this, youdo this, you perform like it's
new.
Every time After I perform andI do even somewhat good I feel
on top of the world.
I will walk out of a round,walk up to Lizzie or Lydia and
go I'm better than you, I'mbetter than everyone here.
Walk up to Lizzie or Lydia andgo I'm better than you, I'm
(43:07):
better than everyone here.
And not even in like a and Idon't even mean it in like an,
actually like I'm performingbetter than you, but I am, like,
mentally better than everyone,like on that level.
So for me, like it's like anaddiction.
Like everyone talks aboutrunners high, I get a speech
high.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
Like it's I don't even know how else to describe
it it's cray cray that's, that'ssomething, and like that, that
level of confidence it gives youis like awesome.
What about you, lizzie?
Speaker 2 (43:31):
um, so I have a fear of sports.
So, um, my fear is not publicspeaking, I'd love to talk.
I will talk for like us three.
If you put us in a room, we'vebeen up until like 3 am just
talking us three, so like wewill just talk forever.
But like horror story, uh, inlike fourth grade we were
(43:54):
playing like a dodgeball gameand I wasn't really paying
attention and I got hit in theface with the dodgeball or like.
It was like one of thekickballs, it was like the fat
kickballs.
I got hit in the face and likefell back and I got a concussion
.
So like, from then on I don'twant to play sports.
So I do speech and debate and Ilove talking and I love just
being able to act and dosomething that is out of the box
(44:18):
for me.
So like I do drama, that like,and I pick a piece that's like
nothing related to me at all soI can like do something new and
I can just express someoneelse's story.
Both times I've done like bothmy dramas.
I've done sophomore and junioryear.
We figured out towards the endof the season that they have
been true stories and then I endup crying because they're like
(44:42):
I picked the most horrendousstories, like I don't mean to,
but like they just fit.
Like mmm, trauma, like mmm, letme just trauma dump on you real
quick, oh God, and then I'llwalk out of the room.
I'm like, hey guys, like how'sit going?
So I'd rather get up and speakin front of a bunch of people
(45:06):
than have to like kick a ball orhit a bat or whatever you do
sounds like you're just kind ofpredisposed to this world.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
It's just kind of a good world for you, so that's
cool.
Yeah, what about you?
What about you, lydia?
What's, uh?
What are your thoughts on this?
Speaker 3 (45:22):
okay, I have really bad anxiety.
So when I go up to perform I'mlike I'm gonna throw up, I'm
gonna throw up, I'm gonna throwup, I'm gonna throw up.
I literally like every time wewould go to perform our duo, I
would tell ian garrison what ifI throw up?
What if I pee my pants?
I'm on stage, what what if Ipassed out?
I will say the most randomthings like what if I die while
(45:47):
I'm performing, like mid-perform, but then when I get up there,
completely black out, I don'teven remember performing.
And then I get down and I'mlike like shaking so bad.
I don't know how I deal with it.
I just kind of don't.
I'm kind of like, yeah, andalso every morning, every
morning, without fail, jay willbe sitting down at breakfast,
(46:09):
lizzie's dad and I'll come upand I'm like super tired.
So I look like dead and I goI'm going to quit.
I'll tell him every singlemorning I'm going to quit.
And he goes you quit, go ahead,have fun.
And I go, okay, and then I goperform.
And then I never quit because Ilove speaking to me.
(46:29):
But it's just become a ritualat this point where it's like if
I don't say I'm gonna quit,I'll probably fail, so I just
have to might actually quit,like I might actually quit if I
don't say it.
I just kind of deal with it byby yapping about the most random
things.
What if I throw up on you whileI'm pretending to hit you right
(46:50):
now?
Speaker 2 (46:53):
There's a story of Lydia performing and she started
off her junior year piece, herhumor, by going Hello.
And last year I don't think sheate breakfast and she went
hello.
Speaker 3 (47:07):
I'm here today and she's like I went to speak and
just nothing came out of mymouth.
I'm like gosh, so that's why Igo.
What if I throw?
Speaker 1 (47:24):
up.
Wow, I'm thinking about howbored Ian is going to be this
year not getting a chance towork with you on the regular.
I'm also wondering LindsayLizzie how many times do you
think you've heard Lydia say I'mgoing to quit?
Speaker 2 (47:39):
Over a million.
It's like without a doubt shelike gets off the bus, she gets
up in the morning, she gets outof a round literally anytime.
She'll be like I'm done, I'mquitting oh my gosh well, and
(48:00):
then if it's out of, if it'sright out of a round and she
says that she ends up gettingfirst or second, without a doubt
.
And we're like Lydia, maybe youshould quit Sounds like it's
maybe a good luck charm.
Speaker 1 (48:15):
Better not stop, so you should probably quit this
year.
Speaker 3 (48:19):
I should probably quit.
Not really, don't really quit,I don probably stop.
No, lindsay, not really it'ssuperstition, don't really?
Speaker 1 (48:27):
I feel like donuts.
Thanks so much to Lindsay,lizzie and Lydia for doing the
podcast here at Camp Unclap.
We had so much fun and it wassome great stuff that they had
to share.
What's going down at camptomorrow?
Well, tomorrow, dear friends,shall be a day of rest.
I still have some social mediachallenges that I'll post for
tomorrow, but no releasedpodcast content.
(48:49):
We'll be back with content onSunday, though.
Oh, and this weekend, if youhappen to have a vegetarian
zombie over for dinner, don'tforget what they most like to
eat Grains For Camp One Clap.
This is Camp Director Wileysigning off.
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