July 9, 2025 • 42 mins
Renee Jones shares her journey from a 10-year-old dieter to a health counselor who helps others break free from emotional eating. Her powerful mantra "Face your stuff, don't stuff your face" encapsulates her philosophy that sustainable weight loss comes from addressing underlying emotional issues rather than just controlling what we eat.
• Renee's 40-year diet yo-yo began at age 10 when her mother put her on her first diet
• Emotional eating often stems from seeking comfort or stress relief through food
• We often have emotional connections to certain foods (Renee's was peanut butter which reminded her of her grandmother)
• Diets fail because we stop doing them, viewing them as temporary rather than lifestyle changes
• Keep trigger foods out of sight or in opaque containers since "we first eat with our eyes"
• One day or meal off plan won't ruin progress - it's a holiday, not a "hollow month"
• The health industry thrives on repeat business - be wary of "magic" solutions
• When choosing a health coach, research their training and avoid high-pressure sales tactics
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Speaker 1 (00:19):
welcome back to one-on-one with mr you of.
Of course, I'm your host.
Mr Yu in studio with us today.
Family and health counselor,author of the book what's Really
Eating you, and famed TEDxspeaker over 750,000 views, wow.
And our TEDx talk is LoseWeight and Keep it Off.
If you guys are interested inhearing her talk, renee Jones is
(00:41):
in the house today.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
How are you, Renee?
Good to see you again.
I'm doing well.
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
My pleasure.
Good to have you in here.
We had an awesome chat.
I definitely want to get intoit.
I'm almost positive from theoutset we're going to ruffle a
lot of feathers, because thisconversation is not for the
faint of heart, so we'll getinto this, though, but I'm
excited about this.
But before we get started, I'dlove for you to share a bit
about your upbringing, yourbackground.
Where do you come from?
What was young when they like?
Share some of that with us.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Well, my parents were teachers and by the time I got
into middle school, my fatherwas the assistant principal and
when I went to high school, hewas my principal, Complicated by
the fact that my mother was theEnglish teacher in a very small
high school and my brother wasa year ahead of me.
So we were all four of us werein the same building for three
years.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Oh goodness.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Oh goodness, how'd you survive that?
Yes, and I had my mother for myEnglish teacher.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
So it was.
It was an interestingexperience.
No, it sounds like it.
Was there anything thathappened in your childhood that
made you, I guess, a way you canconnect the dots to what you're
doing now?
Was there any kind of a tissueback then?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Well, with the parents being teachers, there
was a lot of please others anddon't make you know, don't,
don't make a mess of yourselfand try to behave yourself in
public.
Do not embarrass me yes, do notembarrass me and be in your
world, but not really of it.
(02:16):
So it was, yeah, and the weightloss thing.
My first diet was when I was 10.
What my mother said this is abit early, but her thought was
that if we start now, thenyou'll know what to do as you
get older.
And unfortunately, she wasn'tvery good at it.
So I wasn't very good at it andthat began my 40 year diet
(02:41):
yo-yo began my 40 year dietyo-yo.
Now, when you say diet, I thinkwe all understand what that
means, but for a 10 year old,explain to me what we actually
talking about here, payingattention and eating a little
less and only what mom gives me,not, uh, going for the treats
that some of my friends had.
(03:04):
Let's try to get some of thisbaby weight off, because, you
know, my family was large so itwasn't like this was going to
just go away when I hit puberty.
In fact, it'd get worse.
And the thing was, you know, Iwas looking around, I was the
only redhead, which is a course,a life course in resilience in
(03:29):
and of itself.
But I was looking around all myblonde and brunette friends,
and they were all skinny and Iwas this tubby little redhead
and I thought this just isn'tgood, I don't want to do that
anymore.
So it just kind of wouldperpetuate itself unless I would
get started on it.
(03:52):
And thankfully, having thatexperience, I never got huge,
but I did have a very keenawareness that weight was a
thing and I would have to dealwith it for the rest of my life
wow I want to get behind thecurtain a little bit on the
comment you made about theredhead.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Is that like a real thing?
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah, it was.
Why do?
Speaker 1 (04:07):
redheads have too much trouble.
Break it down for us.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
You're younger than I am and things have changed in
the last.
Well, probably the late 80s,early 90s, things for redheads
started to change, but prior tothat, I mean historically,
redheads were thought of aspossibly evil, uh, maybe a witch
, certainly a whore.
Um, yeah, yeah, so it was.
(04:36):
You know there's.
There had to be something wrongwith your genes for you to have
red hair, and since I was theonly one in my family for two
generations, it was like okay,mom, did you sleep at the Milk
Manor wall?
It's like no, I'm by myselfhere.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Was the Milk Manor ginger.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
No, that was just the thing we said in those days,
right, but that whole thing, youremember the South Park episode
where they had a kick, a gingerday?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
I haven't seen it, but I've started to be checking
the surface.
It sounds crazy, but Ishouldn't be laughing.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
It was an amazing experience, let's put it that
way, but it's just somethingthat it took me years to not
only accept but actually value.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
But if our viewers and listeners have the link to
the episode, send it to me so Ican watch it and see if I could
be offended or not.
We'll see.
I'll decide that later.
Kick a ginger South Park.
All right, send it to me, butall right.
So we had a great conversationin our know pre-interview.
Uh, regarding a lot that you'vedone, I'm I was very, very
intrigued by this part.
(05:50):
This is outside of the weightloss emotional eating
conversation.
Your TEDx talk.
I love the story about thatbecause anybody that wants to be
a public speaker or a scribe todo that professionally, anybody
that wants to be a publicspeaker or a scribe to do that
professionally, myself includedwould love to have the story you
had or how you got started.
(06:11):
My mind is blocked.
Please share the story of howyou got to the TEDx stage to
have I believe it was 750,000views of your TED talk.
Help me understand how you gotthere, because people are out
here trying really, really hardand not even sniffing what you
did so share the story please,if you don't mind doing that for
(06:32):
us.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Well, I will start with saying the 700, I think
we're up to 770 now, 770something.
Congratulations, it's because itis a popular topic, it's
something that a lot of peopledeal with, and I've actually
clients have contacted mebecause of that.
So it's just the topic as muchas anything.
But here's the thing Alwayswork on your title, because your
(06:52):
title is what draws people in,right?
So that's just a metaphor.
So I did not know what a TEDxwas.
I had been living under a rock,I suppose, and I had no idea
what it was.
So when somebody said, oh, youought to apply for this, I
thought okay and I did, and itjust happened to work.
(07:15):
The first well, not the firsttime I applied to a lot of
different places.
I actually applied to states Iwanted to go to because I hadn't
been there and I thought that'dbe fun.
And the people in Rhode Islandtold me that that's not how it
worked.
Oh, ok, but I actually Iactually did my talk in Delaware
, in Wilmington, and they didn'tmind where you were from.
(07:37):
But it was just one of thoseodd moments when things came
together and I was offered theplace and I took it.
And it wasn't until after I hadgiven it when I told my nephews
what I had done, they were likeyou did a TEDx.
It's like what Is that a thing?
And they're like yes, yes,indeed.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
How do you feel about it now?
Do you kind of feel like thebigness of it now, now that you
understand what it is more, doyou feel, yes, how do you feel
about this?
How do you feel?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
I.
I am so blessed to have hadthat opportunity and to have had
the struggle that so manypeople have had, that it is such
a popular topic, it's it.
But you know, it did a lot morefor me than just giving a talk.
After I understood, okay, thisis a big, huge thing, I thought,
(08:34):
wow, I didn't know enough to bescared and that took away a lot
of fear, such that now you know, I'm doing public speaking and,
honestly, almost a year to theday before I was on that stage,
my husband said, hey, you wantto think about speaking?
(08:56):
And I said, love, I am nevergoing to be a speaker.
And lo and behold, here we area few years later and I'm a
public speaker.
And lo and behold, here we area few years later and I'm a
public speaker.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
I said the same thing and I stood on a few platforms
not on that level perhaps, butat least not yet anyway.
But I said the same thing andlook what happened we have a
bunch of reset you never know.
That's exactly what happenedwith some friends that are
popping in.
You never know.
That's exactly what happened.
We have some friends that arepopping in.
The Triple B podcast is here.
(09:27):
Say hello to Renee, big fan ofours.
Awesome supporters.
Thanks guys for jumping in,appreciate you.
If you have any questions youhave for Renee here on this
topic, I'm sure she'd love toanswer those live for you.
The reason why your TEDx talksyou already animated.
That was so popular and stillis because of the subject matter
(09:49):
, what you were talking about.
I want to try to get into thata little bit.
There's so much meat on thisbone.
I want to try to get there asmuch as time will allow us to.
But you talked about being fedup with the diet yo-yo.
You've met many women who feelthe same way.
Tell me something that you'vebeen hearing from some of these
women in regards to diets.
I mean the commercials.
I thought that in 2025, allthat we've learned that the
(10:12):
commercials would be less toactually more.
I see more diet commercials andI don't even watch that much
television.
I see more diet commercials percapita on a few shows that I
watch than imagine.
If I was watching shows all daylong, Imagine how much I would
see.
So tell me what you've beenhearing from the women who are
fed up with the diet, yo-yo andthe whole exercise routines,
(10:35):
hoping that all the fat wouldjust melt off.
Talk to us about that a littlebit, what you've been hearing.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Well, it's not just women, to be honest, I've had a
few men, so they want it to beeasy, they want it to be magic,
they don't want to have to doanything, they want to just be
able to eat normally and losethe weight.
And that's wonderful.
But it doesn't work If youdidn't get that body.
It doesn't work that way.
(11:01):
I didn't get that body.
I still don't have that body,but overcoming the emotional
eating made it a lot easier forme.
And of course, now there's likeOzempic and Manjaro and all of
those things Great tools, butyou might have to take them
forever because if you don'tdeal with what's driving the
(11:21):
behavior, you're never going toget free of it.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
So emotional eating.
That's a really, reallyimportant point.
I think it's pivotal to a lotof what we talked about in our
pre-interview chat.
Just being transparent withmyself, I've done it in every
single episode I've ever done ofmy show.
So I've already told myself,but I don't know why I do that I
do the microphone is more likea truth serum.
(11:47):
It should say stuff that youordinarily wouldn't say.
But I think that I'veexperienced that.
Didn't even realize that it wasa problem, I didn't even
realize it was a thing.
I was feeling a certain kind ofways and I'm standing in front
of the refrigerator late atnight.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I've been snatched.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
So I'm like, so talk to us about emotional eating.
What, what have you learnedabout that?
What have you seen?
Has it evolved?
Speaker 2 (12:09):
tell us about emotional eating what you
learned from this concept idea,if you will well, I will tell
you, I didn't realize that thatwas the issue for me either,
until I ran across the term andI thought oh, that's me, that's
the problem.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Okay, but once I heard it I understood it
completely right.
We're looking to food forcomfort or stress relief and a
lot of times because we'reactually looking for life.
It's not the Twinkie.
We want it, whatever thatrepresents to us.
I had I had an issue withpeanut butter and peanut butter.
(12:54):
It's a perfectly lovely food,except in the quantity.
I was eating and I could.
I could tell myself when I'mstruggling, because I would be
circling the refrigerator, goingback for another spoonful of
peanut butter to soothe whateverwas happening for me.
And I finally worked out whatit was.
(13:14):
It was a connection to mygrandmother.
Wow, because we we enjoyedpeanut butter and chocolate
together.
Oh, it was great, but it itreminded me of the love and
encouragement she gave me.
That's what I was looking for,not the peanut butter.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Oh my God, we need that story.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
And when I finally realized I had to face my stuff,
not stuff my face, thingschanged.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Oh, that's powerful.
Face my stuff, not stuff myface that became my mantra.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
I mean that whole the whole time I was trying to lose
the weight.
It was like face your stuff,don't stuff your face, face your
stuff.
What's going on?
What's driving you to food forcomfort or stress relief and
honestly, the concept isn'tlimited to weight, I mean with
anything we.
We go to something, looking forlife when life gets hard.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Wow For you guys that are listening, please drop that
in the comment section.
Wherever you are on social media, face your stuff, not stuff
your face.
Please share that.
That's gold right there.
You know what I love this show?
It's not self-aggrandizing atall.
I learned so much from convoslike this because I have a very
(14:38):
distinct memory.
My mother if she was watchingthis and she probably will she
won't be able to say I'm wrong,this is totally what happened.
But we had a tradition in ourhousehold.
This was before my sister wasborn, just me and my mother,
only child at that and we had atradition in our household.
This was before my sister wasborn, just me and my mother,
only child at the time and wehad a Friday night tradition
where we would go to the store,get a big well, it wasn't a big
(15:01):
black paper bag, but it was bigenough, medium size and we would
stuff it with snacks cheese,doodles, corn chips, potato
chips, nacho cheese and allthose things, shake them in a
bag and we'd watch a movietogether or a TV together.
Every Friday night was ourtradition, because she worked so
hard, she had two jobs and wentto school too, so that was kind
of a tradition for us, and I'lltell you what.
(15:23):
I developed a healthy love forsnacks.
Of course, I didn't know whereit came from Wait a minute, I'm
tracing it back.
It's my mom's fault, justkidding Mom but it came from
that.
So what you're talking about itwas an emotional attachment,
because I was like, okay, itreminded me of the good times in
my hometown.
There were a lot of bad times,plenty of them, but those were
(15:45):
the good times.
They remind me of the emotionalties that we had to each other.
I was a mama's boy, I guess youcould say, and it was just like
so now I'm eating snacks, likewow, I like snacks a lot, don't
I?
I didn't catch the connection,so I love that you shared that.
That's pretty awesome.
Thanks for the comment.
Triple B.
Moderation is important.
(16:05):
Hard lesson definitely Postthat where you are, face your
stuff and not stuff your face.
I that where you are, face yourstuff and not stuff your face.
I love this, I love this, Ilove this.
All right, so I think weunderstand a bit more about
emotional eating.
I think we can say that here.
Why do you think diets fail?
What's the number one reasonfor that in your assessment?
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Because we stopped doing them.
Explain the thing is a dietteaches you what works for your
body, and everybody is different.
My cousin cannot do the samediet that I follow.
Right, it doesn't work for herbody.
So you've got to find whatworks for your body and diets
are one way to do that.
Some people are better on lowfat, some people are better on
(16:43):
low carbs, some people are goodon Mediterranean moderation,
intuitive eating, all of that.
But the thing is, the wholeidea of diet is there's an end
point, and I don't know aboutyou, but those 40 years I was on
the diet, yo-yo when we hitwhatever point it was like.
Now I can have anything I wantand did and promptly gained the
(17:08):
weight back.
So we stop using what we knowworks for our bodies and start
just eating all kinds of snacksand stuff that we shouldn't be
eating.
We go back to our old ways.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
I think the idea of you being on a diet for 40 years
is probably going to be strangeto some of our listeners, I
guess because diet has aconnotation to the word die or
death.
Yeah, so how do you feel aboutthe word choice?
Are you good with it?
You've been going for 40 years.
You were obviously doing it.
Are you good with the word diet?
(17:45):
Is there a better word or theword diet appropriate for what's
supposed to be happening?
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Well, the word is fine.
I mean diet means your plan foreating.
Some people call it nutritionplan.
Some people get whammed upabout all kinds of words.
It doesn't it.
Whatever works for you, I'mgood with, because you know my
job as a coach is to work myselfout of a job so you can
(18:13):
continue doing what you need todo and getting the results that
you can get.
So whatever word people do thesame thing about the scale.
I can't use the scale.
It freaks me out.
Okay, then don't use the scale.
It doesn't works well.
So, whatever tools I mean thisis the whole thing about that
(18:35):
concept of resilience is that weare collecting a box of tools
that work for us to help us getfrom A to B.
So whatever works for you, usethat I love the idea of being
resilient.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
You kind of have to when we talk about things like
this.
This is a practical question Iwant to ask you because I've
noticed some people who arelistening who might need some
practical help here.
So let's go to the most obviousquestion.
We talk about diets.
We usually see this thingsomewhere close to the end of
(19:12):
the year, after Christmas, rightbefore we start popping off
fireworks.
We want to start our New Year'sresolution.
Show me how you make that workfor you with the idea that
you're sharing today.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Well, a resolution only works when you resolve the
behavior driving the problem.
Ok you've got to come up withhow you are going to then do it.
We have to resolve the innerissues before we can change the
(19:47):
behavior.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
How does the everyday person address that?
Is there a way that they can dothat?
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Yes, I mean there are a lot of self-help books out
there that can be helpful.
I found after 40 years Icouldn't do it myself.
Obviously it wasn't working.
So I hired my first coach,mostly for the accountability,
but also to deal with some ofthe issues driving the behavior.
So whatever works for you,that's what you need to do.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Okay, I want to come back to the coach park.
We had a great conversationabout that.
Both of us have a nice bellylaugh.
We'll come back to that one.
But say you live in a house,thankfully Well, I think I live
in the same kind of house.
I check with the business.
But if you live in a house,thankfully well, I think I live
in the same kind of house.
But if you live in a housethat's filled with snacks, how
(20:40):
do you navigate that?
Because it's like you go in thepantry snack, you go in the
fridge snack.
You may even see on thecountertop snack.
Some folks, even in the bedroom, on their nightstand, is a
snack.
How do you navigate that whenyou're trying to stay on this
healthy course, if you will?
How do people who are watchingthis handle that?
Because this is a tough one.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
It's a very practical thing.
You either have your owncupboard with your snacks.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
So that you have special things too, things that
are on on your plan, and youdon't go into the other areas,
or you put the snacks that youdon't want a part of in another
cupboard and you don't go inthere, because that would be
stealing, it's not yours, ok.
So the way I did it in my houseis I put the foods that I
(21:34):
wanted most for my health in therefrigerator at my eye level.
Everything from Mr Jones wasabove or below my eye level.
His stuff was in opaquecontainers so I didn't see it.
Mine was in clear containers.
Pantry same thing.
My stuff was at my eye levelbecause we first eat with our
(21:59):
eyes and you see it, you want it.
Some of the stuff he had to takeupstairs there's some foods
that I cannot say no to.
Like his mother sent home alarge container of salted
roasted nuts.
I can't handle it.
(22:25):
So he was going on a businesstrip and he brought it down and
put it in the pantry before heleft.
I was like, oh, so I put it inthe softboard because I knew I
wasn't going in there.
Out of sight, out of mind worksreally well.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
I love it.
All you guys watching listenlove to hear your guys
kryptonite.
What's the snack that you guysjust cannot get away from?
I know I have mine.
I think I like nuts, the sameway, the almonds and the cashews
with the seasoning on it.
Oh good, Bad things result.
But drop it in the commentsection wherever you're watching
this show.
(22:58):
What's your kryptonite snack,the snack you cannot take your
eyes off of when you see it?
It's yours automatically.
Share that with us.
All right, so let's get intothis.
Okay, it's yours automatically.
Share that with us.
All right, so let's get intothis.
Okay.
So you talked about emotionaleating and how there's no magic
to this.
There's a process that has totake place.
I love that.
I love that.
How are you managing at theholidays and the family events
(23:20):
of barbecue, Because this is thetime of year where those things
happen at.
It's rampant because people areoff from school, the kids off
from school, the parents haveadjusted schedule with work and
everything, vacations andwhatnot.
How are you navigating that?
Talk to the people, Renee,because I wonder if they can do
this the right way or not.
So help them out, if you can.
(23:41):
How do you manage the familyevents and the barbecues and
holidays when you're trying tostay on task with your diet.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Well, if it is a potluck, where you bring part of
it bring something that's goodfor you.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
You're talking about the hey.
Are you talking about thecanvas and the silver?
That's what we're talking about.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Yeah, whatever, I always take my own dressing to
Thanksgiving because I needsomething I can have.
Well, it is a potluck, we allbring stuff, right, but I always
make sure I've got somethingthat I can have.
That's on plan.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
If you bring something.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Yes, what if you don't bring something?
If you don't bring something,then you do a reconnaissance
round, see what's available toyou and plan for that.
And say, okay, okay, these arethe things that I really need to
have to make the holiday feellike this particular holiday.
And you take a small portion ofthat, because one day, one meal
(24:43):
is not going to tank yourprogress.
It's the problem.
It is a holiday, right, not ahollow week or a hollow month
For some.
But if you completely go offplan, okay, it's a holiday.
The next day, get back on yourplan, because the idea is we
(25:06):
don't want to completely destroyall of our progress, but we do
want to try some things.
It's okay, it's a holiday, butjust choose wisely.
If you really have to havesomething, if you can't say no,
make sure you sit down, you usethe appropriate knife, fork
(25:28):
whatever, and you eat it slowlyand enjoy every bite, because
you're going to be paying forthat for a while, so you better
enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Oh my goodness.
So when you go out of town for,like, holidays and vacations,
is that a different approachThen?
How do you?
How do you handle that onebecause it's out of your control
?
How do you handle that?
One Carb is out of your control.
How do you handle that?
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Yes, because my mother-in-law has never met a
carb she didn't love, and carbsare not good for me.
They make me mean, to be quitehonest.
Yes, this I found out over theperiod of time.
I put my clients through thissurvey that tells them it's
(26:13):
basically their unique nutritionblueprint, so they find out
what foods work for them andwhat not.
Carbs do not work for me.
They make me hungry and theymake me mean.
So when I go to mother-in-lawsI know that's not going to be a
great time for me nutritionallyand I just do the best I can.
(26:33):
Now one year, husband was againgoing on a business trip and
his mother put down in front ofme this plate of dessert, like
three different kinds and Ilooked at him and he said go
ahead, I'm not going to be hereBecause something about that
blood sugar thing.
(26:54):
Oh, it makes me crazy.
I hate it, but it's true.
So you just do the best you canand then moderate yourself
thereafter.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Oh, my goodness, Just something I want to ask, but I
know that time is already upagainst it Up against it already
, but I do want to ask a fewmore things, if I can try to get
it in, hopefully.
Okay, but I had a two-partquestion that I asked in our
pre-interview that I thought wasso profound.
I want to get your insights onthat.
So one what have you learnedabout the health industry as a
(27:29):
whole?
And the second part of thatquestion is what have you
learned about other healthcoaches?
Are they helping the industry?
Are they hurting the industry?
Are they qualified?
Should they not be coachingpeople?
Answer both questions, if youdon't mind.
I thought your answer wasprofound, to say the least.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
I love to hear that your mind, because I thought
your answer was profound to saythe least.
I love to hear that.
Well, the health industry ispredicated on repeat business,
just like any business.
They need your business, so alot of the.
There's no magic to any shakepowder potion.
It all comes down to some formof having reduced calories and
(28:12):
your body being okay with that.
That's what I like about theunique nutrition blueprint is it
tells you what you'll be mostsatisfied with, what will take
care of you.
So you know, try whatever youwant, but just know that it may
not work for you, like Ozempicdoesn't typically work for
(28:34):
emotional eaters as well,because when you finish you
still have to deal with thatemotional eating.
Yeah, yeah.
So finding the industry is justthere because it's a big
problem.
It is a huge problem, but noteveryone has your best interest
(28:55):
at heart, and I would say thatalso about coaches.
Some are trained, some are notKnowing what their training was
like, what they do, theirlongevity in the industry If
it's someone who, a new coach,may not be able to help you
unless they've had a lot oftraining they haven't been using
(29:18):
.
I was like that.
I was.
My master's degree is inmarriage and family counseling,
so I had that kind of training.
I just hadn't been using it inthat way.
I was doing it in a differentway.
But once, once I got there, itwas like, oh, I could, I could
help someone, because I thoughtif I know this and don't help
(29:38):
someone with it, that's going tobe a problem for me.
But again, my I was thinkingabout my entire career.
It's been about working myselfout of a job rather than
creating dependency.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
I hope everybody heard that part.
Oh, my goodness, so much goldcoming out of your mouth right
now.
Instead of trying to createdependency, work yourself out of
a job.
I don't know any coaches thatare doing that.
They're trying to hold on it's,it's a.
It's a.
It's a really bad method tostart with.
(30:14):
To begin with, it doesn'treally equal success, at least
long term.
Not the income per year bracketanyways.
It really doesn't do that.
It's really about the businessthat you have and people you
know, with attention and thingslike that.
So I love what you just said.
That that's really about thebusiness that you have and
people you know, with attentionand things like that.
So I love what you just said.
That that's really.
We could have more time to getinto it more, but I know we
(30:35):
don't.
But, uh, give advice to thosethat are seeking a coach out.
You and I discussed this and welaughed about it, but I'm known
in certain in certain areas as acoach and a mentor because I
was doing it for a while,certified to do it the whole day
.
If you want to see paper, Ihave paper for it.
If you have to have that, youknow what I'm saying, but I just
really cringe now because somany mentors and coaches that
(30:57):
pop up.
They're part of the samecommunity that we're a part of.
Sometimes we meet them in allthese different networks and
everything, and everybody thathas a story or has something
they've overcome dub themselves.
I dub thee coach, I dub theementor and it's like that's all
you got to do.
People get marriage licenseonline and they can become the
(31:20):
merrier of people.
I'm like is that what we'redoing?
That's why I cringe at the ideaof a coach and a mentor, even
though I feel like I'm qualifiedto do it.
Give some advice out, renee, tothose that are watching
listening right now that mayneed a coach like yourself.
Maybe they're honest about this.
You know what?
I've been on this weight trainno pun intended for a long time
(31:43):
and I'm not getting any results.
How do I look for a coach?
How do I find a coach?
What's the process?
Can you help them a little bitwith?
Speaker 2 (31:51):
that briefly.
Yeah, just look at the kind oftraining they have.
If it's a one week course or ifthey just decided they're a
coach, they may or may not havethe skills they might.
I mean, I think one of theprimary things coaches do for us
is hold us accountable to whatwe say we want.
Yeah, yeah, but just look attheir training.
(32:14):
Um, if they have certifications, although there is no
regulating body for coaching, itis totally the wild west.
So do your research, see whatthey've done.
If someone is styling themselvesas a weight loss coach but are
still, you know, 50 poundsoverweight, I would question
(32:37):
that they may not yet know whatthey're doing.
They may, they may have figuredit out, but they may not have.
So just be aware.
Look at how long they've beendoing it and look if it is a
constant upsell.
If someone is trying topressure you into buying the
next thing today, you might wantto think twice about that.
(33:00):
I don't know.
I hate that high pressure thingand I don't do it because I
wouldn't respond well to that.
So why would I expect otherpeople to?
So if they're trying to pushyou in, you might want to think
twice.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
We got time for two more questions.
I want to go further but wecannot.
We have a link out there forlisteners I guess a gift to our
audiences.
If you guys are watching andlistening still and you want to
kind of get on track with yourhealth, if anyone wants to help
you out with that, go towwwpackyourownbagcom forward
slash friends.
(33:37):
Packyourownbagcom forward slashfriends.
It should help out with thisexercise to kind of help you get
on track.
I'm not sure it's exercise inthe way you're thinking, so I
think it's a little bitdifferent than that, but follow
that.
Wwwpackyourownbagcom forwardslash friends.
All right, last two questions.
Can you share a quick successstory for people who have been
(34:01):
under your tutelage, so to speak, got some insights and wisdom
from you, a success story of howyou seen it work for them, Got
some insights and wisdom?
Speaker 2 (34:08):
from you a success story of how you seen it work
for them.
Yeah, one lady was stuck becauseshe wouldn't look at the
emotions behind it and she waslike I don't want to sit with
those emotions.
I'm like, well, I understandthat and we can do it gently,
but we've got to figure this outbecause that's what's stopping
(34:29):
your weight loss.
So she went home and shedecided she would work on this
and we devised a couple ofthings.
But she used some of her son'stoys to represent the feelings
that she didn't want to face.
So it was a friendly thing andat first she just had to walk by
the room, didn't want it in theroom with her, she just walked
(34:50):
by it and look at them and go onpast.
But eventually she decided youknow what I I'm gonna have to to
look at this.
So she picked the toys up,imagining them as that feeling,
and she said it was the weirdestthing.
All of my anxiety about thatdisappeared when I would just
(35:12):
look at it and think about it.
So she got once that was out ofthe way she was done.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Wow, it's incredible.
Pardon the sound.
Heavens are, Lord, in my neckof the woods over here, so
pardon the sound there.
But no, that's a fantasticsuccess story.
Just a last question for you.
Of course, if you missed it,Renee is offering some free
assistance herewwwpackyourownbagcom.
Forward slash friends.
Of course her book is what'sReally Eating?
(35:45):
You Overcome the Triggers ofComfort Eating.
Of course, her TED Talk, whichis highly popular, helped me to
number the goal, because whatshe's talking about is valid and
very, very important andvaluable to all of us.
At least it should be Loseweight and keep it off.
Emotional eating is her TEDTalk.
So thank you for doing that,for sharing that with us.
Last question I always ask thisone.
(36:05):
It's always a tough one.
You got to think about it.
You had a little bit of advancenotice this time, but anyway,
everything that you've beendoing the author in the books,
family and health counselor,TEDx speaker, extraordinaire all
off the table.
What is Renee most likely doing?
Career-wise, vocation-wise,mission-wise?
Speaker 2 (36:31):
What are you doing with your life if all those
things are off the table?
From the beginning of my career, from the beginning of my
career, what I always wanted todo was help people heal Heal
their hearts, heal their minds,get free of stuff that's holding
them back.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
You can't be a coach either.
You can't be a coach either.
You got to be something else.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
That's cool.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
You can't coach.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
I would be a missionary.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Would you be a dietitian?
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Sorry.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Would you be a dietitian?
Speaker 2 (37:05):
No, no, too much math and science in that.
No, it was, I would do ministry, because that's all about
helping you heal your heart.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
I like it.
What kind?
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Well, I spent four years in Wales doing mission
projects.
That was fun.
I got so much more out of thatthan I ever gave them.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Before I ask the question this is serious talk.
Before I ask the question I sawyou building houses.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
I saw a flash of you building houses.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
There for a while we did some house flipping to make
houses better and moreaffordable for people.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Oh goodness.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
And building their emotional house is always
important.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
It sure just got weird, but I like it.
Renee, thank you again forjoining us.
This is fantastic.
Author of what's Really Eatingyou Overcoming the Triggers of
Comfort Eating, of course.
Family health counselor, tedxspeaker.
Her TED talk is incredible.
Lose weight and keep it off.
Emotional eating.
Of course she's offering youguys a little free exercise
(38:26):
wwwpackyourownbagcom.
Forward slash friends.
If you don't mind, renee, oncewe get done with the show, we're
off air.
If you don't mind, jump on tothe YouTube channel in the
comment section where this showis located.
Drop your links there so theycan find it kind of easily.
Some folks want to put in alittle extra work.
It's just a thing to do.
It's okay.
Go ahead and type it into thecomment section.
(38:48):
Put all the links there so theycan find you.
I'll be promoting this showlike crazy because I believe in
what you're talking about and Iwant to help.
So this is fantastic.
Any closing thoughts for ourviewers and listeners?
The floor is yours.
Give me two more minutes andwe're out of here.
Go ahead.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Face your stuff, don't stuff your face.
Say it again Face your stuff,don't stuff your face.
Don't stuff down your emotionsand follow it with a food chaser
.
It never works.
You're looking for life, not aTwinkie.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Oh goodness, I love this.
Thank you for joining us.
Thank you for staying in touchin advance.
I definitely want to unpackwhat you're doing and help you
out down the road.
So thank you for your time onthis.
Definitely appreciate it.
Thank you, we may admit to you,we're out.
Have a great day.
Thanks again for watching andlistening.
welcome back to one-on-one with mr you of.
Of course, I'm your host.
Mr Yu in studio with us today.
Family and health counselor,author of the book what's Really
Eating you, and famed TEDxspeaker over 750,000 views, wow.
And our TEDx talk is LoseWeight and Keep it Off.
If you guys are interested inhearing her talk, renee Jones is
(00:41):
in the house today.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
How are you, Renee?
Good to see you again.
I'm doing well.
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
My pleasure.
Good to have you in here.
We had an awesome chat.
I definitely want to get intoit.
I'm almost positive from theoutset we're going to ruffle a
lot of feathers, because thisconversation is not for the
faint of heart, so we'll getinto this, though, but I'm
excited about this.
But before we get started, I'dlove for you to share a bit
about your upbringing, yourbackground.
Where do you come from?
What was young when they like?
Share some of that with us.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Well, my parents were teachers and by the time I got
into middle school, my fatherwas the assistant principal and
when I went to high school, hewas my principal, Complicated by
the fact that my mother was theEnglish teacher in a very small
high school and my brother wasa year ahead of me.
So we were all four of us werein the same building for three
years.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Oh goodness.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Oh goodness, how'd you survive that?
Yes, and I had my mother for myEnglish teacher.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
So it was.
It was an interestingexperience.
No, it sounds like it.
Was there anything thathappened in your childhood that
made you, I guess, a way you canconnect the dots to what you're
doing now?
Was there any kind of a tissueback then?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Well, with the parents being teachers, there
was a lot of please others anddon't make you know, don't,
don't make a mess of yourselfand try to behave yourself in
public.
Do not embarrass me yes, do notembarrass me and be in your
world, but not really of it.
(02:16):
So it was, yeah, and the weightloss thing.
My first diet was when I was 10.
What my mother said this is abit early, but her thought was
that if we start now, thenyou'll know what to do as you
get older.
And unfortunately, she wasn'tvery good at it.
So I wasn't very good at it andthat began my 40 year diet
(02:41):
yo-yo began my 40 year dietyo-yo.
Now, when you say diet, I thinkwe all understand what that
means, but for a 10 year old,explain to me what we actually
talking about here, payingattention and eating a little
less and only what mom gives me,not, uh, going for the treats
that some of my friends had.
(03:04):
Let's try to get some of thisbaby weight off, because, you
know, my family was large so itwasn't like this was going to
just go away when I hit puberty.
In fact, it'd get worse.
And the thing was, you know, Iwas looking around, I was the
only redhead, which is a course,a life course in resilience in
(03:29):
and of itself.
But I was looking around all myblonde and brunette friends,
and they were all skinny and Iwas this tubby little redhead
and I thought this just isn'tgood, I don't want to do that
anymore.
So it just kind of wouldperpetuate itself unless I would
get started on it.
(03:52):
And thankfully, having thatexperience, I never got huge,
but I did have a very keenawareness that weight was a
thing and I would have to dealwith it for the rest of my life
wow I want to get behind thecurtain a little bit on the
comment you made about theredhead.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Is that like a real thing?
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah, it was.
Why do?
Speaker 1 (04:07):
redheads have too much trouble.
Break it down for us.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
You're younger than I am and things have changed in
the last.
Well, probably the late 80s,early 90s, things for redheads
started to change, but prior tothat, I mean historically,
redheads were thought of aspossibly evil, uh, maybe a witch
, certainly a whore.
Um, yeah, yeah, so it was.
(04:36):
You know there's.
There had to be something wrongwith your genes for you to have
red hair, and since I was theonly one in my family for two
generations, it was like okay,mom, did you sleep at the Milk
Manor wall?
It's like no, I'm by myselfhere.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Was the Milk Manor ginger.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
No, that was just the thing we said in those days,
right, but that whole thing, youremember the South Park episode
where they had a kick, a gingerday?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
I haven't seen it, but I've started to be checking
the surface.
It sounds crazy, but Ishouldn't be laughing.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
It was an amazing experience, let's put it that
way, but it's just somethingthat it took me years to not
only accept but actually value.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
But if our viewers and listeners have the link to
the episode, send it to me so Ican watch it and see if I could
be offended or not.
We'll see.
I'll decide that later.
Kick a ginger South Park.
All right, send it to me, butall right.
So we had a great conversationin our know pre-interview.
Uh, regarding a lot that you'vedone, I'm I was very, very
intrigued by this part.
(05:50):
This is outside of the weightloss emotional eating
conversation.
Your TEDx talk.
I love the story about thatbecause anybody that wants to be
a public speaker or a scribe todo that professionally, anybody
that wants to be a publicspeaker or a scribe to do that
professionally, myself includedwould love to have the story you
had or how you got started.
(06:11):
My mind is blocked.
Please share the story of howyou got to the TEDx stage to
have I believe it was 750,000views of your TED talk.
Help me understand how you gotthere, because people are out
here trying really, really hardand not even sniffing what you
did so share the story please,if you don't mind doing that for
(06:32):
us.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Well, I will start with saying the 700, I think
we're up to 770 now, 770something.
Congratulations, it's because itis a popular topic, it's
something that a lot of peopledeal with, and I've actually
clients have contacted mebecause of that.
So it's just the topic as muchas anything.
But here's the thing Alwayswork on your title, because your
(06:52):
title is what draws people in,right?
So that's just a metaphor.
So I did not know what a TEDxwas.
I had been living under a rock,I suppose, and I had no idea
what it was.
So when somebody said, oh, youought to apply for this, I
thought okay and I did, and itjust happened to work.
(07:15):
The first well, not the firsttime I applied to a lot of
different places.
I actually applied to states Iwanted to go to because I hadn't
been there and I thought that'dbe fun.
And the people in Rhode Islandtold me that that's not how it
worked.
Oh, ok, but I actually Iactually did my talk in Delaware
, in Wilmington, and they didn'tmind where you were from.
(07:37):
But it was just one of thoseodd moments when things came
together and I was offered theplace and I took it.
And it wasn't until after I hadgiven it when I told my nephews
what I had done, they were likeyou did a TEDx.
It's like what Is that a thing?
And they're like yes, yes,indeed.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
How do you feel about it now?
Do you kind of feel like thebigness of it now, now that you
understand what it is more, doyou feel, yes, how do you feel
about this?
How do you feel?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
I.
I am so blessed to have hadthat opportunity and to have had
the struggle that so manypeople have had, that it is such
a popular topic, it's it.
But you know, it did a lot morefor me than just giving a talk.
After I understood, okay, thisis a big, huge thing, I thought,
(08:34):
wow, I didn't know enough to bescared and that took away a lot
of fear, such that now you know, I'm doing public speaking and,
honestly, almost a year to theday before I was on that stage,
my husband said, hey, you wantto think about speaking?
(08:56):
And I said, love, I am nevergoing to be a speaker.
And lo and behold, here we area few years later and I'm a
public speaker.
And lo and behold, here we area few years later and I'm a
public speaker.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
I said the same thing and I stood on a few platforms
not on that level perhaps, butat least not yet anyway.
But I said the same thing andlook what happened we have a
bunch of reset you never know.
That's exactly what happenedwith some friends that are
popping in.
You never know.
That's exactly what happened.
We have some friends that arepopping in.
The Triple B podcast is here.
(09:27):
Say hello to Renee, big fan ofours.
Awesome supporters.
Thanks guys for jumping in,appreciate you.
If you have any questions youhave for Renee here on this
topic, I'm sure she'd love toanswer those live for you.
The reason why your TEDx talksyou already animated.
That was so popular and stillis because of the subject matter
(09:49):
, what you were talking about.
I want to try to get into thata little bit.
There's so much meat on thisbone.
I want to try to get there asmuch as time will allow us to.
But you talked about being fedup with the diet yo-yo.
You've met many women who feelthe same way.
Tell me something that you'vebeen hearing from some of these
women in regards to diets.
I mean the commercials.
I thought that in 2025, allthat we've learned that the
(10:12):
commercials would be less toactually more.
I see more diet commercials andI don't even watch that much
television.
I see more diet commercials percapita on a few shows that I
watch than imagine.
If I was watching shows all daylong, Imagine how much I would
see.
So tell me what you've beenhearing from the women who are
fed up with the diet, yo-yo andthe whole exercise routines,
(10:35):
hoping that all the fat wouldjust melt off.
Talk to us about that a littlebit, what you've been hearing.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Well, it's not just women, to be honest, I've had a
few men, so they want it to beeasy, they want it to be magic,
they don't want to have to doanything, they want to just be
able to eat normally and losethe weight.
And that's wonderful.
But it doesn't work If youdidn't get that body.
It doesn't work that way.
(11:01):
I didn't get that body.
I still don't have that body,but overcoming the emotional
eating made it a lot easier forme.
And of course, now there's likeOzempic and Manjaro and all of
those things Great tools, butyou might have to take them
forever because if you don'tdeal with what's driving the
(11:21):
behavior, you're never going toget free of it.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
So emotional eating.
That's a really, reallyimportant point.
I think it's pivotal to a lotof what we talked about in our
pre-interview chat.
Just being transparent withmyself, I've done it in every
single episode I've ever done ofmy show.
So I've already told myself,but I don't know why I do that I
do the microphone is more likea truth serum.
(11:47):
It should say stuff that youordinarily wouldn't say.
But I think that I'veexperienced that.
Didn't even realize that it wasa problem, I didn't even
realize it was a thing.
I was feeling a certain kind ofways and I'm standing in front
of the refrigerator late atnight.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I've been snatched.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
So I'm like, so talk to us about emotional eating.
What, what have you learnedabout that?
What have you seen?
Has it evolved?
Speaker 2 (12:09):
tell us about emotional eating what you
learned from this concept idea,if you will well, I will tell
you, I didn't realize that thatwas the issue for me either,
until I ran across the term andI thought oh, that's me, that's
the problem.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Okay, but once I heard it I understood it
completely right.
We're looking to food forcomfort or stress relief and a
lot of times because we'reactually looking for life.
It's not the Twinkie.
We want it, whatever thatrepresents to us.
I had I had an issue withpeanut butter and peanut butter.
(12:54):
It's a perfectly lovely food,except in the quantity.
I was eating and I could.
I could tell myself when I'mstruggling, because I would be
circling the refrigerator, goingback for another spoonful of
peanut butter to soothe whateverwas happening for me.
And I finally worked out whatit was.
(13:14):
It was a connection to mygrandmother.
Wow, because we we enjoyedpeanut butter and chocolate
together.
Oh, it was great, but it itreminded me of the love and
encouragement she gave me.
That's what I was looking for,not the peanut butter.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Oh my God, we need that story.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
And when I finally realized I had to face my stuff,
not stuff my face, thingschanged.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Oh, that's powerful.
Face my stuff, not stuff myface that became my mantra.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
I mean that whole the whole time I was trying to lose
the weight.
It was like face your stuff,don't stuff your face, face your
stuff.
What's going on?
What's driving you to food forcomfort or stress relief and
honestly, the concept isn'tlimited to weight, I mean with
anything we.
We go to something, looking forlife when life gets hard.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Wow For you guys that are listening, please drop that
in the comment section.
Wherever you are on social media, face your stuff, not stuff
your face.
Please share that.
That's gold right there.
You know what I love this show?
It's not self-aggrandizing atall.
I learned so much from convoslike this because I have a very
(14:38):
distinct memory.
My mother if she was watchingthis and she probably will she
won't be able to say I'm wrong,this is totally what happened.
But we had a tradition in ourhousehold.
This was before my sister wasborn, just me and my mother,
only child at that and we had atradition in our household.
This was before my sister wasborn, just me and my mother,
only child at the time and wehad a Friday night tradition
where we would go to the store,get a big well, it wasn't a big
(15:01):
black paper bag, but it was bigenough, medium size and we would
stuff it with snacks cheese,doodles, corn chips, potato
chips, nacho cheese and allthose things, shake them in a
bag and we'd watch a movietogether or a TV together.
Every Friday night was ourtradition, because she worked so
hard, she had two jobs and wentto school too, so that was kind
of a tradition for us, and I'lltell you what.
(15:23):
I developed a healthy love forsnacks.
Of course, I didn't know whereit came from Wait a minute, I'm
tracing it back.
It's my mom's fault, justkidding Mom but it came from
that.
So what you're talking about itwas an emotional attachment,
because I was like, okay, itreminded me of the good times in
my hometown.
There were a lot of bad times,plenty of them, but those were
(15:45):
the good times.
They remind me of the emotionalties that we had to each other.
I was a mama's boy, I guess youcould say, and it was just like
so now I'm eating snacks, likewow, I like snacks a lot, don't
I?
I didn't catch the connection,so I love that you shared that.
That's pretty awesome.
Thanks for the comment.
Triple B.
Moderation is important.
(16:05):
Hard lesson definitely Postthat where you are, face your
stuff and not stuff your face.
I that where you are, face yourstuff and not stuff your face.
I love this, I love this, Ilove this.
All right, so I think weunderstand a bit more about
emotional eating.
I think we can say that here.
Why do you think diets fail?
What's the number one reasonfor that in your assessment?
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Because we stopped doing them.
Explain the thing is a dietteaches you what works for your
body, and everybody is different.
My cousin cannot do the samediet that I follow.
Right, it doesn't work for herbody.
So you've got to find whatworks for your body and diets
are one way to do that.
Some people are better on lowfat, some people are better on
(16:43):
low carbs, some people are goodon Mediterranean moderation,
intuitive eating, all of that.
But the thing is, the wholeidea of diet is there's an end
point, and I don't know aboutyou, but those 40 years I was on
the diet, yo-yo when we hitwhatever point it was like.
Now I can have anything I wantand did and promptly gained the
(17:08):
weight back.
So we stop using what we knowworks for our bodies and start
just eating all kinds of snacksand stuff that we shouldn't be
eating.
We go back to our old ways.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
I think the idea of you being on a diet for 40 years
is probably going to be strangeto some of our listeners, I
guess because diet has aconnotation to the word die or
death.
Yeah, so how do you feel aboutthe word choice?
Are you good with it?
You've been going for 40 years.
You were obviously doing it.
Are you good with the word diet?
(17:45):
Is there a better word or theword diet appropriate for what's
supposed to be happening?
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Well, the word is fine.
I mean diet means your plan foreating.
Some people call it nutritionplan.
Some people get whammed upabout all kinds of words.
It doesn't it.
Whatever works for you, I'mgood with, because you know my
job as a coach is to work myselfout of a job so you can
(18:13):
continue doing what you need todo and getting the results that
you can get.
So whatever word people do thesame thing about the scale.
I can't use the scale.
It freaks me out.
Okay, then don't use the scale.
It doesn't works well.
So, whatever tools I mean thisis the whole thing about that
(18:35):
concept of resilience is that weare collecting a box of tools
that work for us to help us getfrom A to B.
So whatever works for you, usethat I love the idea of being
resilient.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
You kind of have to when we talk about things like
this.
This is a practical question Iwant to ask you because I've
noticed some people who arelistening who might need some
practical help here.
So let's go to the most obviousquestion.
We talk about diets.
We usually see this thingsomewhere close to the end of
(19:12):
the year, after Christmas, rightbefore we start popping off
fireworks.
We want to start our New Year'sresolution.
Show me how you make that workfor you with the idea that
you're sharing today.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Well, a resolution only works when you resolve the
behavior driving the problem.
Ok you've got to come up withhow you are going to then do it.
We have to resolve the innerissues before we can change the
(19:47):
behavior.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
How does the everyday person address that?
Is there a way that they can dothat?
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Yes, I mean there are a lot of self-help books out
there that can be helpful.
I found after 40 years Icouldn't do it myself.
Obviously it wasn't working.
So I hired my first coach,mostly for the accountability,
but also to deal with some ofthe issues driving the behavior.
So whatever works for you,that's what you need to do.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Okay, I want to come back to the coach park.
We had a great conversationabout that.
Both of us have a nice bellylaugh.
We'll come back to that one.
But say you live in a house,thankfully Well, I think I live
in the same kind of house.
I check with the business.
But if you live in a house,thankfully well, I think I live
in the same kind of house.
But if you live in a housethat's filled with snacks, how
(20:40):
do you navigate that?
Because it's like you go in thepantry snack, you go in the
fridge snack.
You may even see on thecountertop snack.
Some folks, even in the bedroom, on their nightstand, is a
snack.
How do you navigate that whenyou're trying to stay on this
healthy course, if you will?
How do people who are watchingthis handle that?
Because this is a tough one.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
It's a very practical thing.
You either have your owncupboard with your snacks.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
So that you have special things too, things that
are on on your plan, and youdon't go into the other areas,
or you put the snacks that youdon't want a part of in another
cupboard and you don't go inthere, because that would be
stealing, it's not yours, ok.
So the way I did it in my houseis I put the foods that I
(21:34):
wanted most for my health in therefrigerator at my eye level.
Everything from Mr Jones wasabove or below my eye level.
His stuff was in opaquecontainers so I didn't see it.
Mine was in clear containers.
Pantry same thing.
My stuff was at my eye levelbecause we first eat with our
(21:59):
eyes and you see it, you want it.
Some of the stuff he had to takeupstairs there's some foods
that I cannot say no to.
Like his mother sent home alarge container of salted
roasted nuts.
I can't handle it.
(22:25):
So he was going on a businesstrip and he brought it down and
put it in the pantry before heleft.
I was like, oh, so I put it inthe softboard because I knew I
wasn't going in there.
Out of sight, out of mind worksreally well.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
I love it.
All you guys watching listenlove to hear your guys
kryptonite.
What's the snack that you guysjust cannot get away from?
I know I have mine.
I think I like nuts, the sameway, the almonds and the cashews
with the seasoning on it.
Oh good, Bad things result.
But drop it in the commentsection wherever you're watching
this show.
(22:58):
What's your kryptonite snack,the snack you cannot take your
eyes off of when you see it?
It's yours automatically.
Share that with us.
All right, so let's get intothis.
Okay, it's yours automatically.
Share that with us.
All right, so let's get intothis.
Okay.
So you talked about emotionaleating and how there's no magic
to this.
There's a process that has totake place.
I love that.
I love that.
How are you managing at theholidays and the family events
(23:20):
of barbecue, Because this is thetime of year where those things
happen at.
It's rampant because people areoff from school, the kids off
from school, the parents haveadjusted schedule with work and
everything, vacations andwhatnot.
How are you navigating that?
Talk to the people, Renee,because I wonder if they can do
this the right way or not.
So help them out, if you can.
(23:41):
How do you manage the familyevents and the barbecues and
holidays when you're trying tostay on task with your diet.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Well, if it is a potluck, where you bring part of
it bring something that's goodfor you.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
You're talking about the hey.
Are you talking about thecanvas and the silver?
That's what we're talking about.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Yeah, whatever, I always take my own dressing to
Thanksgiving because I needsomething I can have.
Well, it is a potluck, we allbring stuff, right, but I always
make sure I've got somethingthat I can have.
That's on plan.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
If you bring something.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Yes, what if you don't bring something?
If you don't bring something,then you do a reconnaissance
round, see what's available toyou and plan for that.
And say, okay, okay, these arethe things that I really need to
have to make the holiday feellike this particular holiday.
And you take a small portion ofthat, because one day, one meal
(24:43):
is not going to tank yourprogress.
It's the problem.
It is a holiday, right, not ahollow week or a hollow month
For some.
But if you completely go offplan, okay, it's a holiday.
The next day, get back on yourplan, because the idea is we
(25:06):
don't want to completely destroyall of our progress, but we do
want to try some things.
It's okay, it's a holiday, butjust choose wisely.
If you really have to havesomething, if you can't say no,
make sure you sit down, you usethe appropriate knife, fork
(25:28):
whatever, and you eat it slowlyand enjoy every bite, because
you're going to be paying forthat for a while, so you better
enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Oh my goodness.
So when you go out of town for,like, holidays and vacations,
is that a different approachThen?
How do you?
How do you handle that onebecause it's out of your control
?
How do you handle that?
One Carb is out of your control.
How do you handle that?
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Yes, because my mother-in-law has never met a
carb she didn't love, and carbsare not good for me.
They make me mean, to be quitehonest.
Yes, this I found out over theperiod of time.
I put my clients through thissurvey that tells them it's
(26:13):
basically their unique nutritionblueprint, so they find out
what foods work for them andwhat not.
Carbs do not work for me.
They make me hungry and theymake me mean.
So when I go to mother-in-lawsI know that's not going to be a
great time for me nutritionallyand I just do the best I can.
(26:33):
Now one year, husband was againgoing on a business trip and
his mother put down in front ofme this plate of dessert, like
three different kinds and Ilooked at him and he said go
ahead, I'm not going to be hereBecause something about that
blood sugar thing.
(26:54):
Oh, it makes me crazy.
I hate it, but it's true.
So you just do the best you canand then moderate yourself
thereafter.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Oh, my goodness, Just something I want to ask, but I
know that time is already upagainst it Up against it already
, but I do want to ask a fewmore things, if I can try to get
it in, hopefully.
Okay, but I had a two-partquestion that I asked in our
pre-interview that I thought wasso profound.
I want to get your insights onthat.
So one what have you learnedabout the health industry as a
(27:29):
whole?
And the second part of thatquestion is what have you
learned about other healthcoaches?
Are they helping the industry?
Are they hurting the industry?
Are they qualified?
Should they not be coachingpeople?
Answer both questions, if youdon't mind.
I thought your answer wasprofound, to say the least.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
I love to hear that your mind, because I thought
your answer was profound to saythe least.
I love to hear that.
Well, the health industry ispredicated on repeat business,
just like any business.
They need your business, so alot of the.
There's no magic to any shakepowder potion.
It all comes down to some formof having reduced calories and
(28:12):
your body being okay with that.
That's what I like about theunique nutrition blueprint is it
tells you what you'll be mostsatisfied with, what will take
care of you.
So you know, try whatever youwant, but just know that it may
not work for you, like Ozempicdoesn't typically work for
(28:34):
emotional eaters as well,because when you finish you
still have to deal with thatemotional eating.
Yeah, yeah.
So finding the industry is justthere because it's a big
problem.
It is a huge problem, but noteveryone has your best interest
(28:55):
at heart, and I would say thatalso about coaches.
Some are trained, some are notKnowing what their training was
like, what they do, theirlongevity in the industry If
it's someone who, a new coach,may not be able to help you
unless they've had a lot oftraining they haven't been using
(29:18):
.
I was like that.
I was.
My master's degree is inmarriage and family counseling,
so I had that kind of training.
I just hadn't been using it inthat way.
I was doing it in a differentway.
But once, once I got there, itwas like, oh, I could, I could
help someone, because I thoughtif I know this and don't help
(29:38):
someone with it, that's going tobe a problem for me.
But again, my I was thinkingabout my entire career.
It's been about working myselfout of a job rather than
creating dependency.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
I hope everybody heard that part.
Oh, my goodness, so much goldcoming out of your mouth right
now.
Instead of trying to createdependency, work yourself out of
a job.
I don't know any coaches thatare doing that.
They're trying to hold on it's,it's a.
It's a.
It's a really bad method tostart with.
(30:14):
To begin with, it doesn'treally equal success, at least
long term.
Not the income per year bracketanyways.
It really doesn't do that.
It's really about the businessthat you have and people you
know, with attention and thingslike that.
So I love what you just said.
That that's really about thebusiness that you have and
people you know, with attentionand things like that.
So I love what you just said.
That that's really.
We could have more time to getinto it more, but I know we
(30:35):
don't.
But, uh, give advice to thosethat are seeking a coach out.
You and I discussed this and welaughed about it, but I'm known
in certain in certain areas as acoach and a mentor because I
was doing it for a while,certified to do it the whole day
.
If you want to see paper, Ihave paper for it.
If you have to have that, youknow what I'm saying, but I just
really cringe now because somany mentors and coaches that
(30:57):
pop up.
They're part of the samecommunity that we're a part of.
Sometimes we meet them in allthese different networks and
everything, and everybody thathas a story or has something
they've overcome dub themselves.
I dub thee coach, I dub theementor and it's like that's all
you got to do.
People get marriage licenseonline and they can become the
(31:20):
merrier of people.
I'm like is that what we'redoing?
That's why I cringe at the ideaof a coach and a mentor, even
though I feel like I'm qualifiedto do it.
Give some advice out, renee, tothose that are watching
listening right now that mayneed a coach like yourself.
Maybe they're honest about this.
You know what?
I've been on this weight trainno pun intended for a long time
(31:43):
and I'm not getting any results.
How do I look for a coach?
How do I find a coach?
What's the process?
Can you help them a little bitwith?
Speaker 2 (31:51):
that briefly.
Yeah, just look at the kind oftraining they have.
If it's a one week course or ifthey just decided they're a
coach, they may or may not havethe skills they might.
I mean, I think one of theprimary things coaches do for us
is hold us accountable to whatwe say we want.
Yeah, yeah, but just look attheir training.
(32:14):
Um, if they have certifications, although there is no
regulating body for coaching, itis totally the wild west.
So do your research, see whatthey've done.
If someone is styling themselvesas a weight loss coach but are
still, you know, 50 poundsoverweight, I would question
(32:37):
that they may not yet know whatthey're doing.
They may, they may have figuredit out, but they may not have.
So just be aware.
Look at how long they've beendoing it and look if it is a
constant upsell.
If someone is trying topressure you into buying the
next thing today, you might wantto think twice about that.
(33:00):
I don't know.
I hate that high pressure thingand I don't do it because I
wouldn't respond well to that.
So why would I expect otherpeople to?
So if they're trying to pushyou in, you might want to think
twice.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
We got time for two more questions.
I want to go further but wecannot.
We have a link out there forlisteners I guess a gift to our
audiences.
If you guys are watching andlistening still and you want to
kind of get on track with yourhealth, if anyone wants to help
you out with that, go towwwpackyourownbagcom forward
slash friends.
(33:37):
Packyourownbagcom forward slashfriends.
It should help out with thisexercise to kind of help you get
on track.
I'm not sure it's exercise inthe way you're thinking, so I
think it's a little bitdifferent than that, but follow
that.
Wwwpackyourownbagcom forwardslash friends.
All right, last two questions.
Can you share a quick successstory for people who have been
(34:01):
under your tutelage, so to speak, got some insights and wisdom
from you, a success story of howyou seen it work for them, Got
some insights and wisdom?
Speaker 2 (34:08):
from you a success story of how you seen it work
for them.
Yeah, one lady was stuck becauseshe wouldn't look at the
emotions behind it and she waslike I don't want to sit with
those emotions.
I'm like, well, I understandthat and we can do it gently,
but we've got to figure this outbecause that's what's stopping
(34:29):
your weight loss.
So she went home and shedecided she would work on this
and we devised a couple ofthings.
But she used some of her son'stoys to represent the feelings
that she didn't want to face.
So it was a friendly thing andat first she just had to walk by
the room, didn't want it in theroom with her, she just walked
(34:50):
by it and look at them and go onpast.
But eventually she decided youknow what I I'm gonna have to to
look at this.
So she picked the toys up,imagining them as that feeling,
and she said it was the weirdestthing.
All of my anxiety about thatdisappeared when I would just
(35:12):
look at it and think about it.
So she got once that was out ofthe way she was done.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Wow, it's incredible.
Pardon the sound.
Heavens are, Lord, in my neckof the woods over here, so
pardon the sound there.
But no, that's a fantasticsuccess story.
Just a last question for you.
Of course, if you missed it,Renee is offering some free
assistance herewwwpackyourownbagcom.
Forward slash friends.
Of course her book is what'sReally Eating?
(35:45):
You Overcome the Triggers ofComfort Eating.
Of course, her TED Talk, whichis highly popular, helped me to
number the goal, because whatshe's talking about is valid and
very, very important andvaluable to all of us.
At least it should be Loseweight and keep it off.
Emotional eating is her TEDTalk.
So thank you for doing that,for sharing that with us.
Last question I always ask thisone.
(36:05):
It's always a tough one.
You got to think about it.
You had a little bit of advancenotice this time, but anyway,
everything that you've beendoing the author in the books,
family and health counselor,TEDx speaker, extraordinaire all
off the table.
What is Renee most likely doing?
Career-wise, vocation-wise,mission-wise?
Speaker 2 (36:31):
What are you doing with your life if all those
things are off the table?
From the beginning of my career, from the beginning of my
career, what I always wanted todo was help people heal Heal
their hearts, heal their minds,get free of stuff that's holding
them back.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
You can't be a coach either.
You can't be a coach either.
You got to be something else.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
That's cool.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
You can't coach.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
I would be a missionary.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Would you be a dietitian?
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Sorry.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Would you be a dietitian?
Speaker 2 (37:05):
No, no, too much math and science in that.
No, it was, I would do ministry, because that's all about
helping you heal your heart.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
I like it.
What kind?
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Well, I spent four years in Wales doing mission
projects.
That was fun.
I got so much more out of thatthan I ever gave them.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Before I ask the question this is serious talk.
Before I ask the question I sawyou building houses.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
I saw a flash of you building houses.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
There for a while we did some house flipping to make
houses better and moreaffordable for people.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Oh goodness.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
And building their emotional house is always
important.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
It sure just got weird, but I like it.
Renee, thank you again forjoining us.
This is fantastic.
Author of what's Really Eatingyou Overcoming the Triggers of
Comfort Eating, of course.
Family health counselor, tedxspeaker.
Her TED talk is incredible.
Lose weight and keep it off.
Emotional eating.
Of course she's offering youguys a little free exercise
(38:26):
wwwpackyourownbagcom.
Forward slash friends.
If you don't mind, renee, oncewe get done with the show, we're
off air.
If you don't mind, jump on tothe YouTube channel in the
comment section where this showis located.
Drop your links there so theycan find it kind of easily.
Some folks want to put in alittle extra work.
It's just a thing to do.
It's okay.
Go ahead and type it into thecomment section.
(38:48):
Put all the links there so theycan find you.
I'll be promoting this showlike crazy because I believe in
what you're talking about and Iwant to help.
So this is fantastic.
Any closing thoughts for ourviewers and listeners?
The floor is yours.
Give me two more minutes andwe're out of here.
Go ahead.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Face your stuff, don't stuff your face.
Say it again Face your stuff,don't stuff your face.
Don't stuff down your emotionsand follow it with a food chaser
.
It never works.
You're looking for life, not aTwinkie.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Oh goodness, I love this.
Thank you for joining us.
Thank you for staying in touchin advance.
I definitely want to unpackwhat you're doing and help you
out down the road.
So thank you for your time onthis.
Definitely appreciate it.
Thank you, we may admit to you,we're out.
Have a great day.
Thanks again for watching andlistening.
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