July 29, 2025 • 41 mins
Rory Paquette shares his transformative journey from a childhood marked by abuse to becoming a coach, podcaster, and mentor helping men lead purposeful lives. After a near-fatal battle with pneumonia that left him with just a 20% chance of survival, Rory experienced a profound shift in his relationship with God and family.
• Overcoming a painful childhood with an alcoholic, abusive father
• Using past trauma to become a better father and husband
• Surviving a life-threatening medical emergency with complete respiratory failure
• Transitioning from corporate life to full-time coaching and podcasting
• Working with veterans to help them become better husbands and fathers
• Defining what it means to "lead like a man" through protecting, providing, and leadership
• Building multiple successful podcasts without expensive equipment
• Creating platforms that help others embrace their authentic selves
• Finding purpose through helping others overcome similar struggles
Find Rory Paquette on Facebook and Instagram, where you can connect with all his podcasts: Power of Man, Podcaster Nation, and Wake Up the Lions.
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Speaker 1 (00:17):
Welcome back to one on one with Mr you.
Of course, again, I'm your host, mr you, in studio with us.
My God, a host of many podcasts, including the Power of man
podcast Coach, extraordinairePodcaster, renaissance man, all
of that stuff.
Man, rory Paquette is in thehouse, man.
What's up, brother?
Good to have you, man, how youdoing.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Thank you so much, man.
It's absolutely my pleasure tobe here.
I'm honored, and thank you somuch for having me on.
Can't wait to have thisconversation.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
My pleasure to be here.
I'm honored and thank you somuch for having me on.
Can't wait to have thisconversation.
Same here, brother.
I've been on two of your shows.
I couldn't get you here, man.
That's just a diplomatic ofyour busy schedule, man.
It's all good.
I'm glad we finally got you inthe box, man.
We're excited about this.
Customarily, we always ask ourguests the first question and
the last question, always thesame for everybody, exceptions.
Uh, yours might be a adifferent answer, but we prepare
(01:06):
for it.
I always ask about sharing yourchildhood and your upbringing.
I know there's a big storybehind that, so if you could get
into it from the outset,totally fine.
Man, let's go ahead and roll.
Tell us about your childhood,your upbringing.
What was life?
Life for young rory?
Speaker 2 (01:21):
yeah, um, hey, we can jump right into that, not a
problem.
Um, I've been talking about itfor a long time, trying to help
other men who have those issues.
My childhood was absolutelyawful.
It's just part of life, man.
Honestly, I think it's one ofthose things that God kind of
picked out for me to have to gothrough because I'm supposed to
(01:44):
be out here helping other mendeal with this kind of thing.
So you know, I had a dad who wasjust really really upset and
really disappointed with his ownlife and just how normal and
not fantastic he was, and hetook that out on everybody else.
So he, he found his solace inthe bottle of a bottle of Jack
(02:07):
Daniels and, uh, decided that hewas going to take it out on
everybody else every once in awhile.
So, yeah, I, I had a veryabusive uh verbally and
physically, uh childhood andthen, uh, you know, when he
finally did leave, uh, then mymom managed to find another one.
So always kind of ends up thatway.
The guys that I talk to on aregular basis seem to follow
(02:29):
some of those patterns.
But all those things made me theman that I am today, brother,
and so it instilled in me how Iwas going to raise my children
and things I wasn't going to do,and because of that I have a
fantastic wife and we have threeunbelievable kids today that
are all grown and I'm an emptynester, you know, and but
(02:52):
they're all out there livingfantastic lives.
I mean they're all pursuingtheir best lives and living
purposeful uh, christ led lives,and a lot of that is because of
what I had to go through.
So if I had to deal with thatpain for them to have the lives
they have very fair trade-offI'll take it all day.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
No, I love that, man.
I love that.
I love your perspective, man,because that's not.
Everybody doesn't take it thatway.
I know some people who arefriends of mine that you know
they've had stuff like that.
Go on and guess what?
They're still living in thesoup, man.
They haven't even gotten out ofthe cup yet, they're still in
(03:28):
there.
I'm like that's not.
You can't live like that.
No, I appreciate your honesty,man, and hopefully, hopefully,
by just watching and listening.
Of course, if you have anyquestions for Rory regarding
that or for myself, jump intothe comment section or the live
chat, whether you're watchingthe episode or listening to it.
I'd love to hear your thoughtson that, man.
But you had a story that kind ofspoke to your appreciation for
your life.
You had a situation that Ithink I had when I was kind of
(03:52):
similar, where I was on thefloor of my house and I thought
that was going to be it for me.
My wife came rushing home,brought me to the ER, and so, if
you don't mind sharing thatstory, but I love to get there
because people complain,especially in a meeting that you
and I work in, and theycomplain about everything and
(04:12):
their whole life, and I'm like,wow, if you only understood how,
how grace, grace filled yourlife is right now, you wouldn't
even be doing this.
But go ahead and share thatstory, man.
I want to, uh, definitely, uh,give our listeners a boost.
So go ahead, man, share some ofthat story man.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I want to definitely give our listeners a boost.
So go ahead, man.
Well, I appreciate that.
I'm sure that what you'rereferring to, yeah, is my
medical thing.
That happened about nine monthsago.
I had been carrying pneumoniaaround for over a year, had no
idea, I just kept getting sick,had no idea why, and just
figured I was, you know, rundown, was working really hard,
um, putting in a lot of hours,and I wasn't in the best of
(04:46):
health.
So I'm like, all right, well,I'm just running myself down.
Well, uh, at one point it gotreal bad and, um, as I was
sitting there with my wife andmy breathing got shorter and
shorter and shorter, and I'mkind of measuring it and
realizing that the time inbetween breaths is getting
smaller.
And I look at my wife and I'mlike, at this rate, I'm not
going to be breathing, we needto go to the hospital, like
(05:07):
right now.
So she grabbed the truck, brokelike eight laws, got me over to
the emergency room faster thanany ambulance would have, I'll
tell you that.
And I walked into the emergencyroom and I reached out to kind
of talk about, hey, help me out,here's the deal.
And next thing I know I'm onthe floor.
Uh, breathing was just done.
(05:27):
My left lung was completelyfull of fluid and had like a gel
all around the outside of it.
It shut it completely down andmy right lung had decided it had
had enough of carrying the leftand just forget it.
And that was it.
So I stopped breathing.
I was done, woke up, uh, I don'teven know how long later, a
(05:49):
bunch of tubes sticking out ofme and everything else and they
said hey, you know, we got someproblems.
So the uh, this ended up havinga what was it called
thoracotomy, where they justlike cut into you.
I've got a scar on me.
Your viewers will be able tosee it.
It's about yay, big Looks likea big shark bite on my back,
(06:10):
where they cut in there and cutthrough the bone and the muscle
and the nerves and everythingelse and had to get at my lungs.
So it was really brutal.
The surgery should have killedme.
I found out afterwards.
So I had about a 20% chance ofmaking it through the surgery,
let alone the illness.
And yet here I am, man, becauseyou know I'm just an Italian
(06:30):
tank.
You can't stop us.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Listen to you, man.
I love that man.
I had a.
I won't share the whole story,but I had a time where I was
walking around with walkingpneumonia.
But I don't think we call itwalking pneumonia.
They don't think when they callit walker pneumonia they don't
intend for you to walk aroundwith it for like the amount of
time I was walking around withit it wasn't a year, but it was
a little short.
A couple months shorter thedoctor said I'm surprised you're
still here, that kind of scared.
(06:55):
My wife and I'm like what?
So I get that, man, but it justmakes us love a lot harder and
live a lot stronger, man.
So I love hearing the stories,man.
There's so many people who Ihear who have stories like yours
and like mine and they quicklyforget about the grace that
they're living in.
They kind of you know all thisgreat thing happened, this
miracle happened in my life andyou know what.
(07:17):
They kind of forget about it.
What keeps you from forgetting,besides the scar that you can
see?
What keeps you from forgetting,besides the scar that you can
see, what keeps you fromforgetting the grace that you've
been able to live under?
Speaker 2 (07:30):
um, wow, I honestly I think, uh, my relationship with
my wife and my kids keeps mefrom forgetting that.
Um, we've been through a lot,um, you know I have a couple of
like low point stories, but theuh, we've been through a lot and
my family somehow stayedtogether.
They somehow kept supportingeach other, support me through
(07:50):
it all.
Um, you know, I gave everythingI had to get us out of a really
bad spot.
They know that, um, and theyknow that I almost wasn't with
them anymore, you know, aboutnine months ago.
So everything changed, the, thefamily shifted.
Uh, my wife and I, ourrelationship shifted.
Uh, you know, my relationshipwith my kids changed just a
(08:12):
little bit.
Um, it, it just tomorrow, notbeing assumed, you know, kind of
changed and um, all for thebetter.
But my family really keeps methat way and honestly, uh, you
know, my faith in God, um,because there's there's no
reason I should be here to none.
You know, physically,anatomically, biologically, I
(08:35):
should not be here talking toyou today.
And, um, I had a lot ofdifferent, you know, revelations
, uh, when I was in the hospitalall that time and when I was on
all those medications and whenI was going through all that
pain.
But, uh, when I was in thehospital all that time, and when
I was on all those medicationsand when I was, you know, going
through all that pain, but, uh,when I came out of it, I, I
really did look at my lifedifferent.
Uh, it wasn't like, oh, I'mgoing to cherish every moment
from now on, and the bells wentoff and the birds were singing.
(08:56):
No, it was just.
It was just a sense of peacethat I'd never had before, ever.
Um, I, I had a.
When I went in, I thought I hada relationship with god, and
when I came out, I knew that Idid, and I think that's the best
way that I can say it all right, that's I couldn't say it
(09:18):
better.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
I love it.
Um, wow, I've been meeting thisbone man.
We're gonna try to do the bestwe can to get through this,
because there's so much aboutyour life that I think is super
interesting for people to kindof grab hold of it.
One thing I love that you and Ishare a lot in common.
I think we discussed that a loton your show man.
We got a lot in common.
We just connected vibes.
(09:38):
When that happens, man, it's agood thing.
Run with it, man, because it'spretty rare, especially in our
business.
But for you, you did somethingthat I I think people they see
it around them, they hear aboutit on their social media, but
they don't always really catchthe bigness of what you actually
did.
You left the corporate worldand went full time to coaching
(10:03):
and podcasting.
Now, I did that, but my rolewas probably knowing this as
smooth as what yours might havebeen, for that I kind of did it
with kind of blind.
I didn't know what I was goingto do.
I had to get out of that world,though.
But talk to me about how youdecided to get out of the
corporate world and step intoentrepreneurship for yourself
(10:26):
and doing that?
Because people talk about thatkind of stuff all the time and
they idealize it, but they don'talways pull the trigger.
They think about it for 20years or longer and they never
actually do it sometimes.
But tell me how you got to thatpoint.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah, I mean I've been an entrepreneur most of my
life, but the last.
I want to say eight to tenyears I have been in the
corporate world and I've hadenough of that.
I got into that right beforeCOVID.
I was in it during COVID andduring COVID you didn't want to
be an entrepreneur, you know.
(10:59):
You wanted to be part of thesupply chain, you know.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
So it worked out.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
I did what I had to do to take part of the supply
chain.
It worked out.
I did what I had to do to takecare of my family.
When that subsided, I was likeI've just had enough.
I started building the sidehustles.
I started doing coaching on theside.
I was doing podcasting.
I started doing more podcasting.
The more I started doing allthat stuff, the more people kind
(11:24):
of came to me Um, I have agentleman that I life coach.
Um, you know, I work with, uh,with men, fathers, husbands, uh,
some veterans also work, uh,you know, with a lot of
podcasters.
And I started working withpodcasters who were like hey,
you've done this a long time,can you show me how to do this?
And they were asking mequestions.
And I finally said you know,I'm going to just monetize this.
I'm going to offer to coach,I'm going to be the most
(11:46):
inexpensive coach out there,cause there's people who want
like five, 10 grand to coachpodcasting.
I'm.
I'm not one of those guys, youknow.
Um, and I just said I'm goingto help as many people as I can,
I'm going to work as hard as Ican.
And, um, I said, look, I'mgoing to go.
I'm going to go do this.
I had a few clients under mybelt that I was doing on more of
(12:07):
a part-time basis and I saidit's time, it's just time.
So I walked out, I said I'mdone, see you later, and went
full time to what I was doing.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
I don't know how that went.
Were you going to do what?
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, everybody thought I was nuts,
except my wife.
She was just like okay, ifthat's what you're doing, let's
go.
And so we ahead, we went and it, you know, it has worked out
wonderfully.
It's worked out like a dream.
God has provided every step ofthe way, and part of what I've
(12:43):
been called to do also has to dowith podcasting, and so I'm I'm
doing a lot of that because Ithink it's his wish.
Um, yeah, you know, in thenewest podcast I started to wake
up the lions.
I mean, that's about that, andso that's a.
That mission on its ownrequired a lot more time, and
the only way to do that was tobe full-time in this business.
So by doing that, it has givenme that freedom to pursue what
(13:06):
I've been called to do and alsomy own causes.
You know that I have come tolove.
It was not easy, though it wasnot easy.
Let me just be clear.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
You live in comfort and, I guess, to some degree,
stability.
If you really trust thegovernment to pay you at the end
of the week, just leave thestability behind and comfort and
your family knows what they got.
We're not sure where it's goingto be happening going forward.
We've got a family.
The pressure is way moreintense.
I totally get that.
(13:38):
I respect what you did.
You're not an overnight success, but you definitely are a
success story.
I love hearing this.
I want to ask you about yourwork with the veterans because
that really means a lot to me.
Lost my dad almost a decade agoor so, so he's been
instrumental in my always havinga love for people who serve
their country like that.
(13:58):
And why did you decide to startworking with them?
And what have you been seeingthat kind of reinforces the idea
that you know what I need to beworking with them?
And what have you been seeingthat kind of reinforces the idea
that you know what I need to behelping these people?
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Yeah, that's a great question, man.
I started working with one,with a man who was a veteran and
you know, veterans want to workwith other veterans is kind of
how they start with.
They figure, if you haven'tbeen in the soup, you haven't
been in battle, you haven't donethese things, then you can't
really help them.
The problem is that a lot ofthe guys who have been through
(14:30):
that also have those problems,and so you know, if you want to
go through therapy and you wantto talk about what's happened in
the past, then I mean, hey, goahead and talk to a therapist,
talk to a veteran, whoever.
If you want to move forward andtalk about what do I need to do
tomorrow instead of talkingabout yesterday, then you need
someone who has been whereyou're trying to be.
(14:52):
So the veterans that I work withare trying they're not trying
to be soldiers, they're tryingto be husbands, they're trying
to be fathers, they're trying tofocus on their kids, they're
trying to lead their familiesand they don't know how and they
don't know when it's going tohappen.
It's appropriate and societytells them, you know, to back
(15:13):
down and be all quiet and docileand share your feelings and
that's.
You know, but the, the servicetells you to.
You know, hurrah, lead andthrow your feelings out the
window.
So you know, somewhere in themiddle is the way to lead like a
man and, uh, still be sensitiveenough to hold your wife's hand
, you know, at the grocery store.
So it's there, there is a wayto go.
(15:33):
But what I find is these menare coming to me now because
they want to see um uh uh sortof a model.
They want to see um, uhdifferent ways that they can go
in that direction and they wantto be the father, the husband,
and so they want to talk tosomebody who has lived that life
and messed it up and has doneit wrong and then learned how to
(15:56):
do it right.
So I'm leading by experience,even though I'm not a veteran,
with these guys and it's beenvery, very successful for these
guys who have opened their mindsto that and have come along for
the ride.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
You're breaking barriers, my man.
I appreciate that.
Man.
That's a great testimonybecause people just think you
know what, if you haven't done,you can't help.
Yeah, you know what, if youhaven't done it you can't help,
yeah, you can.
There's wisdom that'sapplicable to a lot of things
that people do that they think,oh, no one understands and they
live in isolation, which a lotof veterans do.
You're going to think you'rethe only one anyway, so it'll be
hard for people to breakthrough because you're in your
(16:28):
mind.
It's like nobody understands mypain.
So I love what you're doing,man.
I want to get into that wholelead like a man thing.
I'm going to come back to thatin a little bit.
I want to ask you a questionabout how coaching has impacted
your life.
I mean, I'm a fellow coach, sowhen you and I talk, we talk
about things, jermaine, thecoaching, and hopefully we'll be
(16:50):
doing more of that, because mypractice is getting ready to get
unleashed soon.
So I'll be coaching, I guess ona full-time basis.
I guess talking, talkingschedule, maybe, maybe part-time
, but we'll see how that works.
But uh, how has that impactedyour life?
Just you personally starting tocoach people on this level?
What's, what's it done for you,to you, through you?
What's what's been going on?
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Honestly, it's the most fulfilling thing I've done
in my life, second only to beinga dad.
It's, yeah, I mean being a dadand being a husband, you know,
but other than raising my kids,I mean in terms of what I do,
it's there's nothing that's morefulfilling than that.
So it's really been amazing.
(17:31):
When you can take all that painand suffering that you have
inside of you and you can turnit into something positive, it's
incredibly healing for you todo that.
But then when you see peopleand you know that they were all
the way over here and they werein pain and they were hurting
and they were lost, and then youwork with them for a while and
(17:51):
you see them transition to wherenow they're over here and
they're not lost and they havedirection and they have purpose,
and you hear their wivesjumping on the call.
When you know, like by surprise, you know a guy's on the call,
for instance, and his wife camerunning in the room and he's
like you know, what are youdoing?
I'm on my call and she goes.
I know, but I just have to tellRory, thank you so much.
(18:13):
You've done such a great job.
You know, we're grateful foryou, and she's like crying.
You know, and I've had membersthat I work with, brother, who
have asked me to work with theirentire families, you know, in
one on one basis.
That's awesome.
Hear them out and work through,and when you have that kind of
trust from the people that youwork with, I don't you know
(18:37):
what's it done for me personally.
It's re-energized my life.
Honestly, it's given me a wholenew purpose at my age and, you
know, at this point in my lifeto pursue.
I mean, I wake up in themorning ready to do this stuff,
brother, and I'm pumped, youknow there's no sleeping in
because I'm missing out.
I got to get up, I got to getgoing, even as this real old man
(19:00):
that I am today.
Oh, stop it.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
When you said full-time, I thought I
understood, but no, I thinkyou're going a lot farther than
full-time.
I'm going to get into thatshortly.
I want to ask a question aboutthat.
Leave like a man comment.
Maybe we're going to get intothat shortly.
I want to ask a question aboutthat Lead like a man comment.
Maybe we're going to get intothe podcasting, probably going
to end the show on that, becauseyou're doing so much, a lot to
get into there, man, but leadlike a man.
I don't know how people aregoing to take that.
(19:24):
You know, if you watch thisshow, you know I don't really
care.
But that lead like a mancomment.
It got layers to it.
That it got layers to it.
That thing has legs to it.
Good, fletch it out for me alittle bit more, because we talk
about it.
You're one of our foundingpanelists in the Men's
Roundtable series, so you're inthe box with us most times that
(19:47):
we're on and we're broadcastingand we talk about issues that
remain to men.
If you guys haven't heard of it, you should know by now that
we're doing that.
It's all over social mediaYouTube, facebook, twitter, it's
everywhere.
But lead like a man.
Tell me what that means whatthat looks like.
You talk about the supermarketand, holding wifey's hand, tell
me what that looks like to leadlike a man.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Yeah, it's a great question and I'm glad that
you're addressing this with metoday.
Thank you, man.
Let's go All right, let's hitit, because you know there's a
way to do this.
Man, I'm sorry there's amasculinity movement out there
that has honestly been derailed,and I'm not going to lie, I
(20:32):
don't know if it was derailedfrom the outside, finally,
because they've been trying todo that for years, or if it got
derailed from the inside becausethe guys don't want to do the
work.
But I'm not going to lie aboutit and I'm not going to front
about it.
And if it pisses somebody off,too bad, uh, because this is how
I feel and it's the truth.
You can.
There are three things that aman needs to do, okay, and he's
(20:54):
got to protect, he's got toprovide and he's got to lead.
And I've heard people on allsorts of shows try and denigrate
that and say, well, that's notthe way things are anymore.
You know what that's nonsense.
That is exactly what you needto do Now.
Is that all you need to do?
No, but if you aren't doingthose three things, then it
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doesn't matter what else you'redoing.
You're going to fail, andthat's just that.
Every single time I hear a mantalking about you know, we need
to be more sensitive, we have toopen up wife wanting to lead,
all of this stuff.
Listen, you're not leading andtaking her someplace that she
doesn't want to go.
Okay, if I say, hey, let's godo this, I'm leading.
If my wife says, actually, I'drather do this, that's great.
(21:48):
I love the fact that she stepsup and wants to.
You know, lead with me.
Okay, let's go ahead and dothat.
Hon, I'm not not leadinganymore.
But what I didn't do was Ididn't walk in and go.
I don't know, baby, what do youwant to do?
I don't know.
If it's whatever you want to dois fine with me.
Women right now are all oversocial media.
They're all over the world.
(22:09):
They're going.
What happened to all the men?
We got beat down, we gave up,we stopped, you know, trying to
be men and we said you know what?
We're just going to not offendanybody.
Good Lord, brother.
I mean, if you want to liveyour life trying to not offend
somebody, go sit in the cornerwith your binky and your man bun
(22:31):
and let me know when you'redone, cause I have nothing to
say to those people.
I just don't.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Turn up the heat, because I have nothing to say to
those people, I just don't.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
The worst part for me are guys who are out there
talking about trying to lead menand they're leading men that
way.
Look, if you're not taking careof your basic principles, if
you're not taking care of thosethings first, I mean I get the
whole.
You have to put on your airmask first so that you can put
everybody else's on.
I get that.
You have to fill up your owncup so that you can fill up
everybody else's.
I understand all these things,but the bottom line, brother, is
(23:06):
that if there's four peoplesitting at the table and there's
three pieces of chicken, you'rethe one not eaten because it
was your job to provide thechicken and that's it.
And to me it's just very, verycut and dry.
And I see a lot of men who comeup with a lot of real creative
ways to be lazy, to not fulfilltheir duties, and it just really
bothers me.
So there, it bothers me as well.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
So there you go.
You know where to find me,because I don't like that stuff
either.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
But if you just watch this show.
You already know that already.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
This is not really news to them, but if you're new
to our show and you haven't seenus before, please don't take it
like it's male chauvinistic.
It's not.
We're just standing up forsomething we believe is germane
and important, Even if you don'tagree with it, which is not
really our concern.
But it's important to us thatyou understand why we're saying
what we're saying, and this ispart of it.
(23:58):
So while we're just gettinginto it, it's a long, long, long
, long, long road, but a lotmore to get into.
But I want to ask you somethingYou've been called the Robin
Hood of podcasts.
What does that mean?
I don't know who Robin Hood was, but tell me what's that mean.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Yeah, I kind of robbed from the rich and give to
the poor.
It's I don't, yeah, I don't, Idon't subscribe to.
You have to buy all the bigequipment.
You have to spend all thismoney.
You have to buy all thesecourses.
You have to do all this If youwant a podcast podcast, you know
.
Grab your phone and record andgo.
You don't need to take fiveediting courses and spend all
(24:39):
this money on editing equipment.
If you just started a podcast,you need to talk and share and
put out a podcast.
I'm really big on doing it thepoor man way for at least your
first 20 episodes.
Don't spend any money on yourpodcast until you know you want
a podcast.
I mean really and truly use,use your phone, use your gaming
(25:03):
headphones, I don't care.
Your first 20 episodes.
You're not going to be JoeRogan, you're not trying to be,
you're trying to put on amessage that's you know, I, I, I
(25:25):
don't edit still to this day.
and there's there's people whowill, on their first or second
episode, spend three hoursediting it.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I'm like why I tried?
Man, I can't do it.
For who?
It's nerve, it's nerve-wracking, and on top of that, I'm not
even sure I'm getting anythingfrom this by doing it.
This is just me.
If I burp on the air man, Imean, okay, I'm human, let's
keep moving.
Let's stay focused on thecontent.
What are we talking about?
The rich context of all of thisstuff?
(25:48):
I hear you, though why are weediting?
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Yeah, that's really it.
You know why are we editing?
Yeah, that's really it, youknow.
I mean, the whole thing iseverybody gets into podcasting
and there's coaches out there,there's teachers out there,
there's people who are at thetop of our industry, who are
leading it and they're reallytrying to get everybody to
follow some set rule of this ishow it should be to podcast.
Listen, brother, your podcastshould be whatever you think it
should be.
It's one of the most pureexpressions of you and it's you
(26:17):
putting your thoughts and yourbeliefs and your mission out
into the world.
Nobody can tell you or me oranybody else what that should or
shouldn't be or what it shouldor shouldn't look like.
And if I want to sit here andtalk into my phone and use
crayons to make my podcast cover, I mean, then you know I should
(26:42):
be able to do that.
That's just my thing.
You know I can't do that part,but I get what you want.
Yeah, that's, that's all.
Uh, I've, I've literally seenpeople spend thousands of
dollars and they haven'trecorded an episode and I'm
going what are you doing?
So somebody, somebody called methat and said I'm always, you
know, like taken away from, fromthe rich, so to speak, and all
the rich things and all the, youknow, the establishment, and
I'm standing up for the littleguy who just wants to stand
(27:03):
there and talk about Legos if hewants to, you know, on his
podcast, why not do, do you?
You know, and I just am a big,big believer in that.
So I stand up for the folks whowho want to just be themselves.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
I love this.
We're almost up against it here, but I want to go ahead and try
to get into your shows.
Man, I was blessed to be on twoof your shows the podcast, the
podcast, the nation podcast Ithink you're doing that five
days a week, which is superaggressive.
The power man podcast I thinkyou're doing that five days a
week, which is super aggressive.
The Power man podcast I thinkyou're doing that seven days a
(27:38):
week.
I don't know how wifey's havingthat, but that's going on.
You started a new podcast,break Up the Lions, which I
think you're doing three days aweek.
I'm like, okay, that's almostmy speed right here.
And a fourth one you're tryingto do what I'm doing.
Is that a good idea?
Tell me briefly why you'redoing these particular podcasts.
(28:02):
How are you seeing impacts inpeople's lives?
Let's get into it a little bit.
Go ahead, sure.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
I appreciate it.
The Wake Up Lions is a newproject.
I'll start there.
It's a new project that isdesigned to give Christians a
chance to just stand up and sayhey, you know, I'm proud of my
faith.
There's no hate in it.
It's not saying that, you know,any other faith is wrong.
I encourage anyone of any faith, the matter of fact, to stand
up and say I'm proud of my faith.
(28:29):
You should be if it's yourfaith.
Um, and so that's kind of whatwe're doing there, and we're
talking about buildingdiscipleship and, uh, battling
against, uh, you know, uh,spiritual warfare.
Uh, that's taken off like crazy.
Uh, the podcaster nation is.
It highlights other podcastersof anywhere, any kind, any place
.
Uh, it is an open, uhinvitation.
It doesn't matter who you are,what your podcast is about, what
(28:49):
your subject matter is.
Um, it's absolutely, uh,tolerant to everything and
everybody, and it's kind of theway the world ought to be really
, and it's just come on, tellyour story, talk about your
podcast, and we're good.
Power of man is my, uh, mypassion project I've been doing.
Uh, it was my first one, it'smy biggest one, it's my best one
, and it's the one that helpsfathers and husbands to try and
(29:12):
be better men.
Uh, they are today, and that'sthe one that I will probably
always do, no matter what, evenif I'm retired, because I'll
never be able to walk away fromit and it just is the closest
one to my heart, at least rightnow.
So those are my three podcastsI have going.
There's many more to come, buta fourth one shortly.
And we'll just keep on goingwith that.
(29:34):
That's all part of thefull-time plan brother.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Oh, my goodness, wow, that's going to be incredible.
Wife's on board with all thesenew podcasts.
Right, the wife is already onboard.
She knows that.
You know what I'm doing.
She's giving me ideas.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
She's giving me ideas for new ones.
I mean, come on.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
What's the number, though?
I know a lot of podcasters whoare doing that.
Honestly, I can't be but sojudgmental, because I used to
have like about eight of themand I used to be a weekly
panelist on six or seven ofthose every single week, so I
was doing 15 episodes ofbroadcast all week.
It got to the point where itgot nuts, so now I'm just down
(30:21):
to four shows.
Now I think this is the sweetspot.
Is there a number for you?
I was like okay, I know thatlogistically I can't go any
further than this.
Is there a number?
No, there's not a number, it'sunlimited.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
I wouldn't limit myself like that.
To be honest with you, everyone of the podcasts has its own
purpose.
So I'm not doing any podcastfor the sake of doing a podcast.
All of them have a purpose ofsome kind, within the podcast
and outside of the podcast, interms of you know coaching or
programs that I'm doing, or youknow income or a mission, you
(31:03):
know that type of thing.
So all the podcasts are playingand you know.
If there's another one thatcomes along that fits the plan,
then I'm going to do it and Iwould never limit myself for
that.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Okay, I want you to help me out with this
penultimate question, cause Iwas asked by our guests, the
last question, which I call ourCMV question.
But for now, give me a quicksuccess story from all your
shows so far.
If you can keep in names, ofcourse, out of anonymity and
(31:36):
such confidentiality, but canyou give or at least share one
or two success stories from allof your shows that you think
would be encouraging to thosewho are listening, looking for
shows like yours?
What can you share?
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Yeah, yeah, honestly, I have some magnificent ones
all over the place.
I would say, very recently onPower man, I had a guest on of
course we'll leave the names outwho had an entire, almost an
entire country lined up againsthim at one point.
But it's a masculinity type ofmovement.
(32:12):
It's a warrior program, youknow, and it's definitely
encouraging, you know, young menand it's aiming at young men to
try and get them to step up,take pride, move forward.
And in his community he got justpersecuted like there was no
tomorrow for doing this, becauseall of that ideology finally
hit his area.
(32:33):
Uh, he's overseas and, um, youknow, it hit here a while ago,
but it just hit there recently.
So it's in a fervor where he isand, uh, it cost him just about
everything cost him, you know,a job, a relationship, the whole
nine yards.
He persevered through that andsaid I believe in this, it
doesn't matter.
Uh, all the way down to beingabout 24 hours away from being
(32:55):
homeless, and um managed to findhis way out, found another
like-minded person.
Uh, they did.
They're working on it together,moving stronger than ever.
He's got over 5,000 peopleinvolved in it now and, yeah, a
lot of those people who werehating on them before, are now,
um, you know, uh, sort of hiding, you know, and they're very
(33:18):
quiet these days, but it was.
That's a huge success storythat just came from last week,
you know, in terms of meinterviewing somebody.
We get those every day, though.
We get those every day, brother, success stories every single
day.
It's one of the best partsabout you know doing what I'm
doing.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
I did no doubt in my mind, and especially I mean the
podcast, the Nation podcast, theHealth podcast.
We need that for each other.
But power man, it just hits medifferent.
I mean, I follow, I listen toyour show, even though I'm not
even on it.
I don't care, I'm following itperiod.
Anyway.
I drop reviews for it and wakeup the lines.
(33:55):
It's catching steam too.
It's becoming almost on thatlevel, man.
But I thank you for what you'redoing, man.
I know there's impact inpeople's lives and people are
being enriched by the work.
And you're going after thisfull-time man, which I totally
respect.
I wish I could do that, but Igot too many irons in the fire.
I got second second, do that,but I got too many irons in the
fire.
I got too many missions on theplate.
I don't think I can make thatwork.
(34:16):
But I respect that you're doingthis.
Man.
I'm gonna support you everystep of the way.
I told you that already, so youalready know that about me.
Uh, let's ask that.
Last, final question.
Uh, cnv question career,mission and vocation.
I'm taking everything off ofthe table that you've ever done.
So that means your time in thecorporate world, your coaching.
Everything's off the table.
(34:37):
What is Rory most likely doingwith his life?
Something that he has nottouched?
Maybe he thinks about it fromtime to time, but never pulled
the trigger on it.
What would you be doing if itwere not for all the other
things you're doing right now?
What do you think you'd be?
Speaker 2 (34:53):
I would be traveling with my wife, full-time, to all
these locations that we'vealways wanted to go see.
I would be podcasting fromevery one of those locations.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
You can't podcast.
I took a look at the table.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
You can't podcast, Rory you can't, I didn't know, I
can't.
All right, okay.
All right, Okay Well then I allright, then okay.
Well then I'd be writing mynext book.
You know all these places.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Do you?
Speaker 2 (35:20):
write books for me.
Yeah, I have two books thatI've published.
You can't use that.
You want me to do somethingI've never done before?
Okay, all right.
Well then, I would be travelingto all these places that my
wife and I have never been ableto see, and I will be teaching
scuba diving in theMediterranean.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 2 (35:42):
You can scuba dive In order to answer the question.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
I'm going to say no.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
So you want to scuba dive?
Okay, I've scuba dived once,that shouldn't count.
How was that?
It was great, I loved it divedonce, that shouldn't count.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
How was that?
It was great, I loved it.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
So now you're hooked now, well, apparently, since I
can't do anything else, I loveyou, don't even have time to
scuba dive.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
I'll show you by going up.
But now this has been fantastic, man.
I want to give you opportunity,excuse me with our closing
minutes here.
Give you, I want to give you anopportunity, excuse me with our
closing minutes here.
Give you a chance to first,well, secondly, let everybody
know where they can find yourwork and then, of course, a few
minutes here, speak to thepeople Whatever's on your heart
that you want to say.
(36:27):
So, whatever order you want todo that in, I'm totally good
with it, man.
But go right ahead, man, whencan they find you?
And give them a word ofencouragement, word of advice,
admonition.
You name it, you got it, Go forit.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
I love it.
Thank you for that and thankyou for having me on and for
everything.
Man, I appreciate everythingyou're doing too, and I
appreciate your support.
And don't let him tell youfolks that he hasn't been on
Power man podcast.
He was a great episode.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
He's been on he's, it's come out.
I didn't say I wasn't on therethat's all right anyway.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Um the uh.
Listen.
You can reach me real easy justwith my name right there on the
screen.
It's gonna show notes.
It's all one word rory pocket.
Find me on facebook orinstagram.
That's where I spend most of mytime.
All my shows are connected tothat in one way shape or form.
Just go there and check it out.
You can message me there too.
As far as a parting thought,depending on who you are and
what you're trying to do in lifethis stuff about power of man,
(37:21):
this stuff for a podcastdonation and this stuff about
wake up the lions one of the bigthemes that goes through all
three of those is that you haveto stand up, and you have to
stand up for who you are and forwhat you are and for what you
believe.
And you know that used to beokay and it should still be okay
.
And in this world today, whenyou stand up for what you
(37:41):
believe, it doesn't matter whatthat is.
You can have people who tellyou you're wrong.
Folks, if you believe it, it'snot wrong.
If you believe it in your heartand your soul and you know that
it's right, then don't ever letanybody else tell you it's wrong
, go that.
It's right then.
Don't ever let anybody elsetell you it's wrong.
Go for it.
I don't care if I disagree withyou.
I'm going to respect youbecause you're out there and
you're doing what your heart andGod and everything else is
calling you to do.
(38:01):
You got to do something.
We have a world of people whoare sitting around doing nothing
and waiting for somebody elseto do it for them.
Don't be one of those.
Don't be the person who'swaiting.
Be the person who's doing.
Get out there and do something.
That's it.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
I love that man.
Thank you for being here,brother.
This was fantastic.
You brought the power of manwith you onto our show and I'm
eternally grateful, brother.
Thank you so much.
You can find Rory Paquette onFacebook, instagram and, of
course, all the listeningplatforms the Power of man, the
Podcasting Nation, of course,wake Up, the Lions podcast and
the fourth one, tbd, to be namedor TBN.
(38:39):
But yeah, thank you for beinghere, but I really appreciate it
.
You can find all of our workreal easy.
We're on all the socials, butthey call me mrubushbrowncom.
You can get all of our socialsthere.
Shoot me a message, drop a text.
(39:00):
I'll give you a shout out onthe next episode of the show and
we look forward to hearing morefrom you guys, roy Paquette,
the power of man and Mr U we'reout of here.
Have a great day.
Thanks again for watching.
Welcome back to one on one with Mr you.
Of course, again, I'm your host, mr you, in studio with us.
My God, a host of many podcasts, including the Power of man
podcast Coach, extraordinairePodcaster, renaissance man, all
of that stuff.
Man, rory Paquette is in thehouse, man.
What's up, brother?
Good to have you, man, how youdoing.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Thank you so much, man.
It's absolutely my pleasure tobe here.
I'm honored, and thank you somuch for having me on.
Can't wait to have thisconversation.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
My pleasure to be here.
I'm honored and thank you somuch for having me on.
Can't wait to have thisconversation.
Same here, brother.
I've been on two of your shows.
I couldn't get you here, man.
That's just a diplomatic ofyour busy schedule, man.
It's all good.
I'm glad we finally got you inthe box, man.
We're excited about this.
Customarily, we always ask ourguests the first question and
the last question, always thesame for everybody, exceptions.
Uh, yours might be a adifferent answer, but we prepare
(01:06):
for it.
I always ask about sharing yourchildhood and your upbringing.
I know there's a big storybehind that, so if you could get
into it from the outset,totally fine.
Man, let's go ahead and roll.
Tell us about your childhood,your upbringing.
What was life?
Life for young rory?
Speaker 2 (01:21):
yeah, um, hey, we can jump right into that, not a
problem.
Um, I've been talking about itfor a long time, trying to help
other men who have those issues.
My childhood was absolutelyawful.
It's just part of life, man.
Honestly, I think it's one ofthose things that God kind of
picked out for me to have to gothrough because I'm supposed to
(01:44):
be out here helping other mendeal with this kind of thing.
So you know, I had a dad who wasjust really really upset and
really disappointed with his ownlife and just how normal and
not fantastic he was, and hetook that out on everybody else.
So he, he found his solace inthe bottle of a bottle of Jack
(02:07):
Daniels and, uh, decided that hewas going to take it out on
everybody else every once in awhile.
So, yeah, I, I had a veryabusive uh verbally and
physically, uh childhood andthen, uh, you know, when he
finally did leave, uh, then mymom managed to find another one.
So always kind of ends up thatway.
The guys that I talk to on aregular basis seem to follow
(02:29):
some of those patterns.
But all those things made me theman that I am today, brother,
and so it instilled in me how Iwas going to raise my children
and things I wasn't going to do,and because of that I have a
fantastic wife and we have threeunbelievable kids today that
are all grown and I'm an emptynester, you know, and but
(02:52):
they're all out there livingfantastic lives.
I mean they're all pursuingtheir best lives and living
purposeful uh, christ led lives,and a lot of that is because of
what I had to go through.
So if I had to deal with thatpain for them to have the lives
they have very fair trade-offI'll take it all day.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
No, I love that, man.
I love that.
I love your perspective, man,because that's not.
Everybody doesn't take it thatway.
I know some people who arefriends of mine that you know
they've had stuff like that.
Go on and guess what?
They're still living in thesoup, man.
They haven't even gotten out ofthe cup yet, they're still in
(03:28):
there.
I'm like that's not.
You can't live like that.
No, I appreciate your honesty,man, and hopefully, hopefully,
by just watching and listening.
Of course, if you have anyquestions for Rory regarding
that or for myself, jump intothe comment section or the live
chat, whether you're watchingthe episode or listening to it.
I'd love to hear your thoughtson that, man.
But you had a story that kind ofspoke to your appreciation for
your life.
You had a situation that Ithink I had when I was kind of
(03:52):
similar, where I was on thefloor of my house and I thought
that was going to be it for me.
My wife came rushing home,brought me to the ER, and so, if
you don't mind sharing thatstory, but I love to get there
because people complain,especially in a meeting that you
and I work in, and theycomplain about everything and
(04:12):
their whole life, and I'm like,wow, if you only understood how,
how grace, grace filled yourlife is right now, you wouldn't
even be doing this.
But go ahead and share thatstory, man.
I want to, uh, definitely, uh,give our listeners a boost.
So go ahead, man, share some ofthat story man.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I want to definitely give our listeners a boost.
So go ahead, man.
Well, I appreciate that.
I'm sure that what you'rereferring to, yeah, is my
medical thing.
That happened about nine monthsago.
I had been carrying pneumoniaaround for over a year, had no
idea, I just kept getting sick,had no idea why, and just
figured I was, you know, rundown, was working really hard,
um, putting in a lot of hours,and I wasn't in the best of
(04:46):
health.
So I'm like, all right, well,I'm just running myself down.
Well, uh, at one point it gotreal bad and, um, as I was
sitting there with my wife andmy breathing got shorter and
shorter and shorter, and I'mkind of measuring it and
realizing that the time inbetween breaths is getting
smaller.
And I look at my wife and I'mlike, at this rate, I'm not
going to be breathing, we needto go to the hospital, like
(05:07):
right now.
So she grabbed the truck, brokelike eight laws, got me over to
the emergency room faster thanany ambulance would have, I'll
tell you that.
And I walked into the emergencyroom and I reached out to kind
of talk about, hey, help me out,here's the deal.
And next thing I know I'm onthe floor.
Uh, breathing was just done.
(05:27):
My left lung was completelyfull of fluid and had like a gel
all around the outside of it.
It shut it completely down andmy right lung had decided it had
had enough of carrying the leftand just forget it.
And that was it.
So I stopped breathing.
I was done, woke up, uh, I don'teven know how long later, a
(05:49):
bunch of tubes sticking out ofme and everything else and they
said hey, you know, we got someproblems.
So the uh, this ended up havinga what was it called
thoracotomy, where they justlike cut into you.
I've got a scar on me.
Your viewers will be able tosee it.
It's about yay, big Looks likea big shark bite on my back,
(06:10):
where they cut in there and cutthrough the bone and the muscle
and the nerves and everythingelse and had to get at my lungs.
So it was really brutal.
The surgery should have killedme.
I found out afterwards.
So I had about a 20% chance ofmaking it through the surgery,
let alone the illness.
And yet here I am, man, becauseyou know I'm just an Italian
(06:30):
tank.
You can't stop us.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Listen to you, man.
I love that man.
I had a.
I won't share the whole story,but I had a time where I was
walking around with walkingpneumonia.
But I don't think we call itwalking pneumonia.
They don't think when they callit walker pneumonia they don't
intend for you to walk aroundwith it for like the amount of
time I was walking around withit it wasn't a year, but it was
a little short.
A couple months shorter thedoctor said I'm surprised you're
still here, that kind of scared.
(06:55):
My wife and I'm like what?
So I get that, man, but it justmakes us love a lot harder and
live a lot stronger, man.
So I love hearing the stories,man.
There's so many people who Ihear who have stories like yours
and like mine and they quicklyforget about the grace that
they're living in.
They kind of you know all thisgreat thing happened, this
miracle happened in my life andyou know what.
(07:17):
They kind of forget about it.
What keeps you from forgetting,besides the scar that you can
see?
What keeps you from forgetting,besides the scar that you can
see, what keeps you fromforgetting the grace that you've
been able to live under?
Speaker 2 (07:30):
um, wow, I honestly I think, uh, my relationship with
my wife and my kids keeps mefrom forgetting that.
Um, we've been through a lot,um, you know I have a couple of
like low point stories, but theuh, we've been through a lot and
my family somehow stayedtogether.
They somehow kept supportingeach other, support me through
(07:50):
it all.
Um, you know, I gave everythingI had to get us out of a really
bad spot.
They know that, um, and theyknow that I almost wasn't with
them anymore, you know, aboutnine months ago.
So everything changed, the, thefamily shifted.
Uh, my wife and I, ourrelationship shifted.
Uh, you know, my relationshipwith my kids changed just a
(08:12):
little bit.
Um, it, it just tomorrow, notbeing assumed, you know, kind of
changed and um, all for thebetter.
But my family really keeps methat way and honestly, uh, you
know, my faith in God, um,because there's there's no
reason I should be here to none.
You know, physically,anatomically, biologically, I
(08:35):
should not be here talking toyou today.
And, um, I had a lot ofdifferent, you know, revelations
, uh, when I was in the hospitalall that time and when I was on
all those medications and whenI was going through all that
pain.
But, uh, when I was in thehospital all that time, and when
I was on all those medicationsand when I was, you know, going
through all that pain, but, uh,when I came out of it, I, I
really did look at my lifedifferent.
Uh, it wasn't like, oh, I'mgoing to cherish every moment
from now on, and the bells wentoff and the birds were singing.
(08:56):
No, it was just.
It was just a sense of peacethat I'd never had before, ever.
Um, I, I had a.
When I went in, I thought I hada relationship with god, and
when I came out, I knew that Idid, and I think that's the best
way that I can say it all right, that's I couldn't say it
(09:18):
better.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
I love it.
Um, wow, I've been meeting thisbone man.
We're gonna try to do the bestwe can to get through this,
because there's so much aboutyour life that I think is super
interesting for people to kindof grab hold of it.
One thing I love that you and Ishare a lot in common.
I think we discussed that a loton your show man.
We got a lot in common.
We just connected vibes.
(09:38):
When that happens, man, it's agood thing.
Run with it, man, because it'spretty rare, especially in our
business.
But for you, you did somethingthat I I think people they see
it around them, they hear aboutit on their social media, but
they don't always really catchthe bigness of what you actually
did.
You left the corporate worldand went full time to coaching
(10:03):
and podcasting.
Now, I did that, but my rolewas probably knowing this as
smooth as what yours might havebeen, for that I kind of did it
with kind of blind.
I didn't know what I was goingto do.
I had to get out of that world,though.
But talk to me about how youdecided to get out of the
corporate world and step intoentrepreneurship for yourself
(10:26):
and doing that?
Because people talk about thatkind of stuff all the time and
they idealize it, but they don'talways pull the trigger.
They think about it for 20years or longer and they never
actually do it sometimes.
But tell me how you got to thatpoint.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah, I mean I've been an entrepreneur most of my
life, but the last.
I want to say eight to tenyears I have been in the
corporate world and I've hadenough of that.
I got into that right beforeCOVID.
I was in it during COVID andduring COVID you didn't want to
be an entrepreneur, you know.
(10:59):
You wanted to be part of thesupply chain, you know.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
So it worked out.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
I did what I had to do to take part of the supply
chain.
It worked out.
I did what I had to do to takecare of my family.
When that subsided, I was likeI've just had enough.
I started building the sidehustles.
I started doing coaching on theside.
I was doing podcasting.
I started doing more podcasting.
The more I started doing allthat stuff, the more people kind
(11:24):
of came to me Um, I have agentleman that I life coach.
Um, you know, I work with, uh,with men, fathers, husbands, uh,
some veterans also work, uh,you know, with a lot of
podcasters.
And I started working withpodcasters who were like hey,
you've done this a long time,can you show me how to do this?
And they were asking mequestions.
And I finally said you know,I'm going to just monetize this.
I'm going to offer to coach,I'm going to be the most
(11:46):
inexpensive coach out there,cause there's people who want
like five, 10 grand to coachpodcasting.
I'm.
I'm not one of those guys, youknow.
Um, and I just said I'm goingto help as many people as I can,
I'm going to work as hard as Ican.
And, um, I said, look, I'mgoing to go.
I'm going to go do this.
I had a few clients under mybelt that I was doing on more of
(12:07):
a part-time basis and I saidit's time, it's just time.
So I walked out, I said I'mdone, see you later, and went
full time to what I was doing.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
I don't know how that went.
Were you going to do what?
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, everybody thought I was nuts,
except my wife.
She was just like okay, ifthat's what you're doing, let's
go.
And so we ahead, we went and it, you know, it has worked out
wonderfully.
It's worked out like a dream.
God has provided every step ofthe way, and part of what I've
(12:43):
been called to do also has to dowith podcasting, and so I'm I'm
doing a lot of that because Ithink it's his wish.
Um, yeah, you know, in thenewest podcast I started to wake
up the lions.
I mean, that's about that, andso that's a.
That mission on its ownrequired a lot more time, and
the only way to do that was tobe full-time in this business.
So by doing that, it has givenme that freedom to pursue what
(13:06):
I've been called to do and alsomy own causes.
You know that I have come tolove.
It was not easy, though it wasnot easy.
Let me just be clear.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
You live in comfort and, I guess, to some degree,
stability.
If you really trust thegovernment to pay you at the end
of the week, just leave thestability behind and comfort and
your family knows what they got.
We're not sure where it's goingto be happening going forward.
We've got a family.
The pressure is way moreintense.
I totally get that.
(13:38):
I respect what you did.
You're not an overnight success, but you definitely are a
success story.
I love hearing this.
I want to ask you about yourwork with the veterans because
that really means a lot to me.
Lost my dad almost a decade agoor so, so he's been
instrumental in my always havinga love for people who serve
their country like that.
(13:58):
And why did you decide to startworking with them?
And what have you been seeingthat kind of reinforces the idea
that you know what I need to beworking with them?
And what have you been seeingthat kind of reinforces the idea
that you know what I need to behelping these people?
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Yeah, that's a great question, man.
I started working with one,with a man who was a veteran and
you know, veterans want to workwith other veterans is kind of
how they start with.
They figure, if you haven'tbeen in the soup, you haven't
been in battle, you haven't donethese things, then you can't
really help them.
The problem is that a lot ofthe guys who have been through
(14:30):
that also have those problems,and so you know, if you want to
go through therapy and you wantto talk about what's happened in
the past, then I mean, hey, goahead and talk to a therapist,
talk to a veteran, whoever.
If you want to move forward andtalk about what do I need to do
tomorrow instead of talkingabout yesterday, then you need
someone who has been whereyou're trying to be.
(14:52):
So the veterans that I work withare trying they're not trying
to be soldiers, they're tryingto be husbands, they're trying
to be fathers, they're trying tofocus on their kids, they're
trying to lead their familiesand they don't know how and they
don't know when it's going tohappen.
It's appropriate and societytells them, you know, to back
(15:13):
down and be all quiet and docileand share your feelings and
that's.
You know, but the, the servicetells you to.
You know, hurrah, lead andthrow your feelings out the
window.
So you know, somewhere in themiddle is the way to lead like a
man and, uh, still be sensitiveenough to hold your wife's hand
, you know, at the grocery store.
So it's there, there is a wayto go.
(15:33):
But what I find is these menare coming to me now because
they want to see um uh uh sortof a model.
They want to see um, uhdifferent ways that they can go
in that direction and they wantto be the father, the husband,
and so they want to talk tosomebody who has lived that life
and messed it up and has doneit wrong and then learned how to
(15:56):
do it right.
So I'm leading by experience,even though I'm not a veteran,
with these guys and it's beenvery, very successful for these
guys who have opened their mindsto that and have come along for
the ride.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
You're breaking barriers, my man.
I appreciate that.
Man.
That's a great testimonybecause people just think you
know what, if you haven't done,you can't help.
Yeah, you know what, if youhaven't done it you can't help,
yeah, you can.
There's wisdom that'sapplicable to a lot of things
that people do that they think,oh, no one understands and they
live in isolation, which a lotof veterans do.
You're going to think you'rethe only one anyway, so it'll be
hard for people to breakthrough because you're in your
(16:28):
mind.
It's like nobody understands mypain.
So I love what you're doing,man.
I want to get into that wholelead like a man thing.
I'm going to come back to thatin a little bit.
I want to ask you a questionabout how coaching has impacted
your life.
I mean, I'm a fellow coach, sowhen you and I talk, we talk
about things, jermaine, thecoaching, and hopefully we'll be
(16:50):
doing more of that, because mypractice is getting ready to get
unleashed soon.
So I'll be coaching, I guess ona full-time basis.
I guess talking, talkingschedule, maybe, maybe part-time
, but we'll see how that works.
But uh, how has that impactedyour life?
Just you personally starting tocoach people on this level?
What's, what's it done for you,to you, through you?
What's what's been going on?
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Honestly, it's the most fulfilling thing I've done
in my life, second only to beinga dad.
It's, yeah, I mean being a dadand being a husband, you know,
but other than raising my kids,I mean in terms of what I do,
it's there's nothing that's morefulfilling than that.
So it's really been amazing.
(17:31):
When you can take all that painand suffering that you have
inside of you and you can turnit into something positive, it's
incredibly healing for you todo that.
But then when you see peopleand you know that they were all
the way over here and they werein pain and they were hurting
and they were lost, and then youwork with them for a while and
(17:51):
you see them transition to wherenow they're over here and
they're not lost and they havedirection and they have purpose,
and you hear their wivesjumping on the call.
When you know, like by surprise, you know a guy's on the call,
for instance, and his wife camerunning in the room and he's
like you know, what are youdoing?
I'm on my call and she goes.
I know, but I just have to tellRory, thank you so much.
(18:13):
You've done such a great job.
You know, we're grateful foryou, and she's like crying.
You know, and I've had membersthat I work with, brother, who
have asked me to work with theirentire families, you know, in
one on one basis.
That's awesome.
Hear them out and work through,and when you have that kind of
trust from the people that youwork with, I don't you know
(18:37):
what's it done for me personally.
It's re-energized my life.
Honestly, it's given me a wholenew purpose at my age and, you
know, at this point in my lifeto pursue.
I mean, I wake up in themorning ready to do this stuff,
brother, and I'm pumped, youknow there's no sleeping in
because I'm missing out.
I got to get up, I got to getgoing, even as this real old man
(19:00):
that I am today.
Oh, stop it.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
When you said full-time, I thought I
understood, but no, I thinkyou're going a lot farther than
full-time.
I'm going to get into thatshortly.
I want to ask a question aboutthat.
Leave like a man comment.
Maybe we're going to get intothat shortly.
I want to ask a question aboutthat Lead like a man comment.
Maybe we're going to get intothe podcasting, probably going
to end the show on that, becauseyou're doing so much, a lot to
get into there, man, but leadlike a man.
I don't know how people aregoing to take that.
(19:24):
You know, if you watch thisshow, you know I don't really
care.
But that lead like a mancomment.
It got layers to it.
That it got layers to it.
That thing has legs to it.
Good, fletch it out for me alittle bit more, because we talk
about it.
You're one of our foundingpanelists in the Men's
Roundtable series, so you're inthe box with us most times that
(19:47):
we're on and we're broadcastingand we talk about issues that
remain to men.
If you guys haven't heard of it, you should know by now that
we're doing that.
It's all over social mediaYouTube, facebook, twitter, it's
everywhere.
But lead like a man.
Tell me what that means whatthat looks like.
You talk about the supermarketand, holding wifey's hand, tell
me what that looks like to leadlike a man.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Yeah, it's a great question and I'm glad that
you're addressing this with metoday.
Thank you, man.
Let's go All right, let's hitit, because you know there's a
way to do this.
Man, I'm sorry there's amasculinity movement out there
that has honestly been derailed,and I'm not going to lie, I
(20:32):
don't know if it was derailedfrom the outside, finally,
because they've been trying todo that for years, or if it got
derailed from the inside becausethe guys don't want to do the
work.
But I'm not going to lie aboutit and I'm not going to front
about it.
And if it pisses somebody off,too bad, uh, because this is how
I feel and it's the truth.
You can.
There are three things that aman needs to do, okay, and he's
(20:54):
got to protect, he's got toprovide and he's got to lead.
And I've heard people on allsorts of shows try and denigrate
that and say, well, that's notthe way things are anymore.
You know what that's nonsense.
That is exactly what you needto do Now.
Is that all you need to do?
No, but if you aren't doingthose three things, then it
(21:28):
doesn't matter what else you'redoing.
You're going to fail, andthat's just that.
Every single time I hear a mantalking about you know, we need
to be more sensitive, we have toopen up wife wanting to lead,
all of this stuff.
Listen, you're not leading andtaking her someplace that she
doesn't want to go.
Okay, if I say, hey, let's godo this, I'm leading.
If my wife says, actually, I'drather do this, that's great.
(21:48):
I love the fact that she stepsup and wants to.
You know, lead with me.
Okay, let's go ahead and dothat.
Hon, I'm not not leadinganymore.
But what I didn't do was Ididn't walk in and go.
I don't know, baby, what do youwant to do?
I don't know.
If it's whatever you want to dois fine with me.
Women right now are all oversocial media.
They're all over the world.
(22:09):
They're going.
What happened to all the men?
We got beat down, we gave up,we stopped, you know, trying to
be men and we said you know what?
We're just going to not offendanybody.
Good Lord, brother.
I mean, if you want to liveyour life trying to not offend
somebody, go sit in the cornerwith your binky and your man bun
(22:31):
and let me know when you'redone, cause I have nothing to
say to those people.
I just don't.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Turn up the heat, because I have nothing to say to
those people, I just don't.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
The worst part for me are guys who are out there
talking about trying to lead menand they're leading men that
way.
Look, if you're not taking careof your basic principles, if
you're not taking care of thosethings first, I mean I get the
whole.
You have to put on your airmask first so that you can put
everybody else's on.
I get that.
You have to fill up your owncup so that you can fill up
everybody else's.
I understand all these things,but the bottom line, brother, is
(23:06):
that if there's four peoplesitting at the table and there's
three pieces of chicken, you'rethe one not eaten because it
was your job to provide thechicken and that's it.
And to me it's just very, verycut and dry.
And I see a lot of men who comeup with a lot of real creative
ways to be lazy, to not fulfilltheir duties, and it just really
bothers me.
So there, it bothers me as well.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
So there you go.
You know where to find me,because I don't like that stuff
either.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
But if you just watch this show.
You already know that already.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
This is not really news to them, but if you're new
to our show and you haven't seenus before, please don't take it
like it's male chauvinistic.
It's not.
We're just standing up forsomething we believe is germane
and important, Even if you don'tagree with it, which is not
really our concern.
But it's important to us thatyou understand why we're saying
what we're saying, and this ispart of it.
(23:58):
So while we're just gettinginto it, it's a long, long, long
, long, long road, but a lotmore to get into.
But I want to ask you somethingYou've been called the Robin
Hood of podcasts.
What does that mean?
I don't know who Robin Hood was, but tell me what's that mean.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Yeah, I kind of robbed from the rich and give to
the poor.
It's I don't, yeah, I don't, Idon't subscribe to.
You have to buy all the bigequipment.
You have to spend all thismoney.
You have to buy all thesecourses.
You have to do all this If youwant a podcast podcast, you know
.
Grab your phone and record andgo.
You don't need to take fiveediting courses and spend all
(24:39):
this money on editing equipment.
If you just started a podcast,you need to talk and share and
put out a podcast.
I'm really big on doing it thepoor man way for at least your
first 20 episodes.
Don't spend any money on yourpodcast until you know you want
a podcast.
I mean really and truly use,use your phone, use your gaming
(25:03):
headphones, I don't care.
Your first 20 episodes.
You're not going to be JoeRogan, you're not trying to be,
you're trying to put on amessage that's you know, I, I, I
(25:25):
don't edit still to this day.
and there's there's people whowill, on their first or second
episode, spend three hoursediting it.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I'm like why I tried?
Man, I can't do it.
For who?
It's nerve, it's nerve-wracking, and on top of that, I'm not
even sure I'm getting anythingfrom this by doing it.
This is just me.
If I burp on the air man, Imean, okay, I'm human, let's
keep moving.
Let's stay focused on thecontent.
What are we talking about?
The rich context of all of thisstuff?
(25:48):
I hear you, though why are weediting?
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Yeah, that's really it.
You know why are we editing?
Yeah, that's really it, youknow.
I mean, the whole thing iseverybody gets into podcasting
and there's coaches out there,there's teachers out there,
there's people who are at thetop of our industry, who are
leading it and they're reallytrying to get everybody to
follow some set rule of this ishow it should be to podcast.
Listen, brother, your podcastshould be whatever you think it
should be.
It's one of the most pureexpressions of you and it's you
(26:17):
putting your thoughts and yourbeliefs and your mission out
into the world.
Nobody can tell you or me oranybody else what that should or
shouldn't be or what it shouldor shouldn't look like.
And if I want to sit here andtalk into my phone and use
crayons to make my podcast cover, I mean, then you know I should
(26:42):
be able to do that.
That's just my thing.
You know I can't do that part,but I get what you want.
Yeah, that's, that's all.
Uh, I've, I've literally seenpeople spend thousands of
dollars and they haven'trecorded an episode and I'm
going what are you doing?
So somebody, somebody called methat and said I'm always, you
know, like taken away from, fromthe rich, so to speak, and all
the rich things and all the, youknow, the establishment, and
I'm standing up for the littleguy who just wants to stand
(27:03):
there and talk about Legos if hewants to, you know, on his
podcast, why not do, do you?
You know, and I just am a big,big believer in that.
So I stand up for the folks whowho want to just be themselves.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
I love this.
We're almost up against it here, but I want to go ahead and try
to get into your shows.
Man, I was blessed to be on twoof your shows the podcast, the
podcast, the nation podcast Ithink you're doing that five
days a week, which is superaggressive.
The power man podcast I thinkyou're doing that five days a
week, which is super aggressive.
The Power man podcast I thinkyou're doing that seven days a
(27:38):
week.
I don't know how wifey's havingthat, but that's going on.
You started a new podcast,break Up the Lions, which I
think you're doing three days aweek.
I'm like, okay, that's almostmy speed right here.
And a fourth one you're tryingto do what I'm doing.
Is that a good idea?
Tell me briefly why you'redoing these particular podcasts.
(28:02):
How are you seeing impacts inpeople's lives?
Let's get into it a little bit.
Go ahead, sure.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
I appreciate it.
The Wake Up Lions is a newproject.
I'll start there.
It's a new project that isdesigned to give Christians a
chance to just stand up and sayhey, you know, I'm proud of my
faith.
There's no hate in it.
It's not saying that, you know,any other faith is wrong.
I encourage anyone of any faith, the matter of fact, to stand
up and say I'm proud of my faith.
(28:29):
You should be if it's yourfaith.
Um, and so that's kind of whatwe're doing there, and we're
talking about buildingdiscipleship and, uh, battling
against, uh, you know, uh,spiritual warfare.
Uh, that's taken off like crazy.
Uh, the podcaster nation is.
It highlights other podcastersof anywhere, any kind, any place
.
Uh, it is an open, uhinvitation.
It doesn't matter who you are,what your podcast is about, what
(28:49):
your subject matter is.
Um, it's absolutely, uh,tolerant to everything and
everybody, and it's kind of theway the world ought to be really
, and it's just come on, tellyour story, talk about your
podcast, and we're good.
Power of man is my, uh, mypassion project I've been doing.
Uh, it was my first one, it'smy biggest one, it's my best one
, and it's the one that helpsfathers and husbands to try and
(29:12):
be better men.
Uh, they are today, and that'sthe one that I will probably
always do, no matter what, evenif I'm retired, because I'll
never be able to walk away fromit and it just is the closest
one to my heart, at least rightnow.
So those are my three podcastsI have going.
There's many more to come, buta fourth one shortly.
And we'll just keep on goingwith that.
(29:34):
That's all part of thefull-time plan brother.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Oh, my goodness, wow, that's going to be incredible.
Wife's on board with all thesenew podcasts.
Right, the wife is already onboard.
She knows that.
You know what I'm doing.
She's giving me ideas.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
She's giving me ideas for new ones.
I mean, come on.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
What's the number, though?
I know a lot of podcasters whoare doing that.
Honestly, I can't be but sojudgmental, because I used to
have like about eight of themand I used to be a weekly
panelist on six or seven ofthose every single week, so I
was doing 15 episodes ofbroadcast all week.
It got to the point where itgot nuts, so now I'm just down
(30:21):
to four shows.
Now I think this is the sweetspot.
Is there a number for you?
I was like okay, I know thatlogistically I can't go any
further than this.
Is there a number?
No, there's not a number, it'sunlimited.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
I wouldn't limit myself like that.
To be honest with you, everyone of the podcasts has its own
purpose.
So I'm not doing any podcastfor the sake of doing a podcast.
All of them have a purpose ofsome kind, within the podcast
and outside of the podcast, interms of you know coaching or
programs that I'm doing, or youknow income or a mission, you
(31:03):
know that type of thing.
So all the podcasts are playingand you know.
If there's another one thatcomes along that fits the plan,
then I'm going to do it and Iwould never limit myself for
that.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Okay, I want you to help me out with this
penultimate question, cause Iwas asked by our guests, the
last question, which I call ourCMV question.
But for now, give me a quicksuccess story from all your
shows so far.
If you can keep in names, ofcourse, out of anonymity and
(31:36):
such confidentiality, but canyou give or at least share one
or two success stories from allof your shows that you think
would be encouraging to thosewho are listening, looking for
shows like yours?
What can you share?
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Yeah, yeah, honestly, I have some magnificent ones
all over the place.
I would say, very recently onPower man, I had a guest on of
course we'll leave the names outwho had an entire, almost an
entire country lined up againsthim at one point.
But it's a masculinity type ofmovement.
(32:12):
It's a warrior program, youknow, and it's definitely
encouraging, you know, young menand it's aiming at young men to
try and get them to step up,take pride, move forward.
And in his community he got justpersecuted like there was no
tomorrow for doing this, becauseall of that ideology finally
hit his area.
(32:33):
Uh, he's overseas and, um, youknow, it hit here a while ago,
but it just hit there recently.
So it's in a fervor where he isand, uh, it cost him just about
everything cost him, you know,a job, a relationship, the whole
nine yards.
He persevered through that andsaid I believe in this, it
doesn't matter.
Uh, all the way down to beingabout 24 hours away from being
(32:55):
homeless, and um managed to findhis way out, found another
like-minded person.
Uh, they did.
They're working on it together,moving stronger than ever.
He's got over 5,000 peopleinvolved in it now and, yeah, a
lot of those people who werehating on them before, are now,
um, you know, uh, sort of hiding, you know, and they're very
(33:18):
quiet these days, but it was.
That's a huge success storythat just came from last week,
you know, in terms of meinterviewing somebody.
We get those every day, though.
We get those every day, brother, success stories every single
day.
It's one of the best partsabout you know doing what I'm
doing.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
I did no doubt in my mind, and especially I mean the
podcast, the Nation podcast, theHealth podcast.
We need that for each other.
But power man, it just hits medifferent.
I mean, I follow, I listen toyour show, even though I'm not
even on it.
I don't care, I'm following itperiod.
Anyway.
I drop reviews for it and wakeup the lines.
(33:55):
It's catching steam too.
It's becoming almost on thatlevel, man.
But I thank you for what you'redoing, man.
I know there's impact inpeople's lives and people are
being enriched by the work.
And you're going after thisfull-time man, which I totally
respect.
I wish I could do that, but Igot too many irons in the fire.
I got second second, do that,but I got too many irons in the
fire.
I got too many missions on theplate.
I don't think I can make thatwork.
(34:16):
But I respect that you're doingthis.
Man.
I'm gonna support you everystep of the way.
I told you that already, so youalready know that about me.
Uh, let's ask that.
Last, final question.
Uh, cnv question career,mission and vocation.
I'm taking everything off ofthe table that you've ever done.
So that means your time in thecorporate world, your coaching.
Everything's off the table.
(34:37):
What is Rory most likely doingwith his life?
Something that he has nottouched?
Maybe he thinks about it fromtime to time, but never pulled
the trigger on it.
What would you be doing if itwere not for all the other
things you're doing right now?
What do you think you'd be?
Speaker 2 (34:53):
I would be traveling with my wife, full-time, to all
these locations that we'vealways wanted to go see.
I would be podcasting fromevery one of those locations.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
You can't podcast.
I took a look at the table.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
You can't podcast, Rory you can't, I didn't know, I
can't.
All right, okay.
All right, Okay Well then I allright, then okay.
Well then I'd be writing mynext book.
You know all these places.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Do you?
Speaker 2 (35:20):
write books for me.
Yeah, I have two books thatI've published.
You can't use that.
You want me to do somethingI've never done before?
Okay, all right.
Well then, I would be travelingto all these places that my
wife and I have never been ableto see, and I will be teaching
scuba diving in theMediterranean.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 2 (35:42):
You can scuba dive In order to answer the question.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
I'm going to say no.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
So you want to scuba dive?
Okay, I've scuba dived once,that shouldn't count.
How was that?
It was great, I loved it divedonce, that shouldn't count.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
How was that?
It was great, I loved it.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
So now you're hooked now, well, apparently, since I
can't do anything else, I loveyou, don't even have time to
scuba dive.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
I'll show you by going up.
But now this has been fantastic, man.
I want to give you opportunity,excuse me with our closing
minutes here.
Give you, I want to give you anopportunity, excuse me with our
closing minutes here.
Give you a chance to first,well, secondly, let everybody
know where they can find yourwork and then, of course, a few
minutes here, speak to thepeople Whatever's on your heart
that you want to say.
(36:27):
So, whatever order you want todo that in, I'm totally good
with it, man.
But go right ahead, man, whencan they find you?
And give them a word ofencouragement, word of advice,
admonition.
You name it, you got it, Go forit.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
I love it.
Thank you for that and thankyou for having me on and for
everything.
Man, I appreciate everythingyou're doing too, and I
appreciate your support.
And don't let him tell youfolks that he hasn't been on
Power man podcast.
He was a great episode.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
He's been on he's, it's come out.
I didn't say I wasn't on therethat's all right anyway.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Um the uh.
Listen.
You can reach me real easy justwith my name right there on the
screen.
It's gonna show notes.
It's all one word rory pocket.
Find me on facebook orinstagram.
That's where I spend most of mytime.
All my shows are connected tothat in one way shape or form.
Just go there and check it out.
You can message me there too.
As far as a parting thought,depending on who you are and
what you're trying to do in lifethis stuff about power of man,
(37:21):
this stuff for a podcastdonation and this stuff about
wake up the lions one of the bigthemes that goes through all
three of those is that you haveto stand up, and you have to
stand up for who you are and forwhat you are and for what you
believe.
And you know that used to beokay and it should still be okay
.
And in this world today, whenyou stand up for what you
(37:41):
believe, it doesn't matter whatthat is.
You can have people who tellyou you're wrong.
Folks, if you believe it, it'snot wrong.
If you believe it in your heartand your soul and you know that
it's right, then don't ever letanybody else tell you it's wrong
, go that.
It's right then.
Don't ever let anybody elsetell you it's wrong.
Go for it.
I don't care if I disagree withyou.
I'm going to respect youbecause you're out there and
you're doing what your heart andGod and everything else is
calling you to do.
(38:01):
You got to do something.
We have a world of people whoare sitting around doing nothing
and waiting for somebody elseto do it for them.
Don't be one of those.
Don't be the person who'swaiting.
Be the person who's doing.
Get out there and do something.
That's it.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
I love that man.
Thank you for being here,brother.
This was fantastic.
You brought the power of manwith you onto our show and I'm
eternally grateful, brother.
Thank you so much.
You can find Rory Paquette onFacebook, instagram and, of
course, all the listeningplatforms the Power of man, the
Podcasting Nation, of course,wake Up, the Lions podcast and
the fourth one, tbd, to be namedor TBN.
(38:39):
But yeah, thank you for beinghere, but I really appreciate it
.
You can find all of our workreal easy.
We're on all the socials, butthey call me mrubushbrowncom.
You can get all of our socialsthere.
Shoot me a message, drop a text.
(39:00):
I'll give you a shout out onthe next episode of the show and
we look forward to hearing morefrom you guys, roy Paquette,
the power of man and Mr U we'reout of here.
Have a great day.
Thanks again for watching.
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