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June 4, 2025 91 mins

Dive into the heart of Totto Land’s chaos as Sanji and Pudding risk everything to infiltrate Cacao Island, while Luffy’s battle with Katakuri in the Mirro-World reaches explosive new heights with the unveiling of Gear 4: Snakeman. With the fate of the crew hanging in the balance, unexpected allies and daring escapes set the stage for a legendary escape and the promise of new adventures.


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(00:00):
Hey fellas, quick question. Yes yeah.
Y'all ever been to a concert in like in like an arena kind of
setting? Technically.
Yes I have. That technically scares me, but
elaborate later. Yeah, I don't understand about
technically that's that's fine. How what are what are your
thoughts on on on the experience?
The out of 10 hate lot of people.

(00:28):
I think it depends on who you'rethere for.
We have a relatively large theater or stadium that we can
do live musical performances here, the biggest one being the
more popular one. Although they do do them at the
baseball field in my city sometimes.

(00:48):
I think Green Day was there lasttime they were in town, which I
bet would have been a lot of fun.
I did not personally go. I don't know.
I mean, I, I guess I like it. I'd I'd call it a solid six to
seven out of 10. Okay, okay.
If the if the music strikes me, then I'm all in.
Now I will say there are stadiumstyle venues that are like a

(01:09):
little bit like like smaller anda little bit like more intimate.
They're not like huge, They're not, they're not like a, what
would be like a basketball stadium.
But then you know, like by day and then by night they turn into
a, you know, a, a concert venue.There's some that are just like
we're made for concerts. We're just like a little bit
bigger than your normal 1 and we're outside.

(01:30):
It's like a giant ampithy or they, those are pretty rap.
I, I my my favorite concert I'vebeen to in my adult life, we
went to one of those kinds of stadiums and it was a lot.
Of fun. Interesting.
Well, thank you for your opinions.
I'm on Bora Devin 0 out of 10. Do not recommend because I've
recently attended 1 and and, andI kind of hated it like like
like the experience of like the music and like the main act when

(01:53):
they got on stage and that's whoI was there for.
That was cool. That was great.
I enjoyed the music, I enjoyed the performance.
I hated being in the arena. I hated I hated just existing in
that space. I would have preferred that
experience in literally any other space.
I would have stood outside and loved it probably 10 times more.
All right, sitting down chair chair quality.

(02:15):
You know you're you're rolling abig fat D20 for that.
Is it is it wood? Is it hard plastic?
Do you get a cushion? Who knows?
Do you get an armrest? Who knows?
Do you get a cup holders? Who knows?
My obviously it's an arena is it's going to be cramps 'cause
they're trying to fit as many people that they're overcharging
as they can right And brother, I'm not a tall person.
I'm like 5-7. I think that's like I think

(02:37):
that's like average male height for AUS citizen.
Maybe I don't know yes, yes and I, my knees hurt because they
were just so to to like not put drive my knee into the back of
someone else's chair or foreheador like back of their neck.
I had to just like just do. I had to maneuver differently

(02:58):
to, to achieve quote UN quote comfort.
Except no, I wasn't comfortable.I my, it was like I had to hug
the, the, the bottom of my chairwith my whole leg.
It's like, it was like like I had my knee.
I was just curving bro I hate it.
Awful experience. There's always that potential of
like people in front of you being standers and.

(03:20):
Yeah, I was just gonna say, did did you not stand?
I mean what? Concert stand have.
You ever gone to where you sit and you don't stand?
I if I could have sat the entiretime, I might have depending on
like my excitement level. If someone in front of me stood,
which they did and I cared enough, I'm also standing.
So there's really a domino effect in that regard.

(03:40):
Also the the crowd was really into it and I love that.
I love the positive energy, the excitement when an entire arena
full of people jump and my chairshakes.
I have a little because I'm not on the ground or or like I I
might be like on a solid surface, but.
It's not the ground you are. You are suspended.

(04:02):
Technically, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And, and, and I don't know aboutyou.
I, I've never thought about, youknow, how often these places are
inspected by like, you know, proper officials.
What I thought about that last night.
Oh, I think about it every single time I'm in one of those
things. I looked at all these like metal
beams that I could actually see that were, you know, exposed in
some shape and and I was like, boy, I hope you have no type of

(04:27):
rust or aging or, or damage of any kind because boy, would this
be a awful way to go out. I've seen Final Destination.
I know how this ends. And then in front of me there's.
Assure you you it it has been inspect big ones like that get
regular inspections Yes, they they have to by law.
Don't make no mistake, you're OKI.

(04:48):
Believe that they should be inspected, but for what I hear,
depending on what department you're in, there's a shortage.
This is the caveat that when it's a big stadium owned by a
city like that, well, not even owned by say, oh, privately
owned that the city funds, they by law are required to have
regular inspection just because of the sheer of size and volume.
But now let's let's take this a step back.

(05:08):
Now. If we're talking about like a
like a very private concert venue, like a small building
that's only like designed to host for like, you know, 2-3
hundred people, let's say in thestanding area.
Yeah, like that can just kind ofbe like a building that was
repurposed to be a stage. And it may or may not be up to
quote UN quote code. That can happen.

(05:29):
That can definitely happen. So so there was that I'd.
Be more worried about a small stadium or a small venue than a
large one in terms of what's going to become what's going to
start crumbling down beneath your feet.
So, so there was that. And then I, I, I, I, I tried my
best to dress for the occasion because the weather here has
been like flip floppy. It's either really hot or like

(05:49):
damn near almost winter again. So I was like, OK, I'm aware of
hoodie and shorts, you know, try, try to try to go half and
half in the, you know, appropriate areas.
It wasn't the right choice. I had to take my hoodie off and
then I had like a small go bag, but it's so cramped that I'm
like, OK, well, I can't fit it underneath my chair.
Not that I really want to anyway.
And granted, I was lucky that there was no one sitting next to

(06:11):
me because either they didn't show up or, you know, the sold
out show isn't as so sold out asI like to tell people, you know,
fucking scalpers and resellers and all those like bullshit.
Fuck you, Ticketmaster. Yeah, that's that's the
resellers coming in and they didn't sell their tickets.
Yet so I'm like, I'm glad this chair is empty, but if it
wasn't, I would be extra uncomfortable.
My knees are basically under me.I'm you know, I can't exactly

(06:34):
like I can't even like push my shoulders back.
That's how little space I have between me and another person.
I have to like, shrug them forward and it's kind of like
turtle in on myself. Or Justin.
Justin, take that energy now. Matt, you've seen me.
Oh yeah, imagine. Respectfully, how do you think
the chair? I don't.
These are like on the part. Where I can't believe what I'm

(06:56):
hearing are people who went to aconcert and actually tried to
sit in the chair. Like, what are you doing with
your lives Who sits at a concert?
Well, they are. You during the wrong place then,
buddy. Exactly.
I don't like go here, that's whyI.
Don't want to talk about? You I'm also biased.
I'm also biased on shows becauseit never sounds as good in my
opinion. Like I've been to quite a few

(07:18):
and I every single time I've been let down.
Like it just doesn't sound. But what, by live music?
Yeah, you're cooked, that is. That is an outrageous statement.
The only alternative that's. Absolutely wild.
I don't. Either the tech guys are off at
their job or. It's always like the drums are
way too fucking loud or the the fucking guitar and shit like

(07:40):
that are way too fucking loud. Like it's always off by
something. The singer is, you know,
scratchy throat and drinking toomuch hookers or something, I
don't know. I this this is an absolutely
listen, you're again, you're in the wrong.
You're in the wrong place. I.
Don't know what? To tell you now.
Back to Justin for a second. What are you doing?

(08:00):
I have nothing more to say to you.
You're objectively in the wrong and you have no reason to be
here. I'm so sorry.
Now I'm I'm. It's a horrible opinion.
You, you, you belong in your own.
Side music sucks. No, you are.
Wrong. It is fantastic.
I'm not going to agree with you on a whole blanket statement.
I will say that sometimes, you know, the tech guys fuck up and

(08:23):
they don't get the balance right.
And two, and this one makes you really sad, there are just some
artists that suck live that theyreally need the production.
Because he's not trying to say some artists.
He's saying that anytime you listen to a live band, it is
objectively worse than listeningto it in Spotify.
That is what he is trying to say.
It depends and it depends. No, no, no, that's not what you

(08:46):
said. That's not what you said.
I am not here to agree with their blanket statement.
I'm here to say it applies in some very specific scenarios.
Right. Stop trying to give him a buy.
Stop trying to give a buy. Anyway, back to you, Brendan.
What are you doing, City? Like the concert part, All
right, City is like just forced upon me because when, when, when

(09:06):
a when an artist, it gets big enough, the the rules reverse.
So, you know, if I listen to like, you know, a garage band
from down the road and they sellout the local bar or whatever.
Local. Garage.
The Local. Garage.
You know they sell the Denny's or whatever, you know they go to
like a small venue. You they, they, they they go

(09:27):
from the the attached garage to the disconnected garage to.
Those ones, I love those ones because I expect them to be
trash. I expect it not to be balanced.
We don't need audio mixing here,we just got vibes. 80 fucking
dollars to walk in the door? Nah, that shit better be crisp.

(09:48):
So when you when you're a small time audience.
Just to do explain himself further.
When you're when you're a small quote UN quote, smaller artist,
it's standing room only. And if you want a seat that is a
premium that you will pay for. And I get that sometimes you're
just, you know, you have, you know, you're like, you know,
disabled or you're just old and your knees hurt.

(10:08):
Yeah, after 8 hour shift and you're going out to the club or
concert or whatever, yeah, maybeyou want to sit down by the bar,
whatever. Cool.
I get that you charge me extra money for that.
That makes sense. Cool.
Great. Why do the rules change when it
comes to an arena, bro, when you're so big you need to fit
like 1000 people? Why what?
Why is my chair like, you know, anywhere from like a reasonable

(10:32):
50 to like hundreds of dollars? And then if I want to stand the
entire night in the pit or really anywhere, you're charging
me a premium like 500 up. I don't get it and I hate it.
I I, I don't know what to tell you, brother.
I, I because standing in the pitis, is closer to the action
where people want to be A and B,you can stand in your own seat.

(10:54):
And I, I don't, I don't even understand the seat thing in the
1st place. I've never gone because when
you're in the seat, I can't waitto sit.
Down you stand and and not everyone around you is with.
Her look at me I'm. Breaking.
You're breaking. Socially, CrossFit.
I have healthy knees. CBB.
I don't have healthy knees. Make no mistake that my knees
are not healthy. Mysterious.
You say you earn knees. Listen, this is what I'm telling

(11:16):
you. If if you can't stand at a
concert, you should not be goingto a concert.
That is on you. This have to do with one.
Piece. I don't know this has to do one
piece, but this man brought it up.
Listen this concert. Situation weeks ago I.
Don't like this I. Don't like this nonsense?
I got my own special off topic and I want to talk about it and
now we're talking about it. That's right.
That's right, Justin. You could talk.
About it, I agree. This is a safe space.

(11:39):
I agree with you. There's only been a couple
concerts that I've actually enjoyed and they were more like
classical concerts. And even then it's yeah chair
and everyone's sitting down likecivilized.
Chair people. It's never a good chair bro.
I I've never been to a concert where the majority is sitting
down. That is, that sounds like a
boring fucking concert or or it's just going to an orchestra,

(11:59):
which is a very different vibe than going to a quote UN quote
concert. Better vibes.
That's fine. That's a.
Completely different energy. Very different energy. 10 out of
10 would go to any orchestra. I would also go to an.
Orchestra. But that's not like a concert
that's completely different. It's going to the orchestra.
Concerts, people are awful. He's not like you're you're the
wrong person for this discussion.

(12:20):
Then there are just. Only two people.
There are two bands I would everwant to see live and even then I
don't think I have the the physical spirit to do it.
The the Spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak as as.
Correct, because as much as I would love to see Rammstein
live, I don't think I could handle it.
It's valid bro. The price of aging, aging out of

(12:42):
your your your preferred activities.
I. Want to see flamethrower
guitars? Hell yeah.
So, So what I'm hearing is you had a bad experience at a
concert, Justin. It was by far the least fun I've
had at a concert ever and I've like gotten heard of shows
before. Right, right.
You know who who? Who'd you see out of personal
curiosity? Pierce The Veil who?
Oh, you saw Pierce The Veil. Yeah, I got.

(13:03):
To check the thing on my popularlife.
Is that the one where it's something about wearing the
Crown song? You know, talking.
About King for a day, yeah. King for a day.
King for a day. Yeah, I enjoyed their set.
That was phenomenal. The music, the the production
value that went into it, fantastic.
I enjoyed it. I wish I went later and skipped

(13:24):
all the openers. I would have probably had a
little bit more fun. Just just that.
Yeah, yeah. That's also not a comment on the
openers. Daisy Grenade.
I'm sorry I didn't make it to your set in time Line was long.
Sleeping With Sirens. You're a cool legacy band.
I just learned that your music'snot for me anymore.
And that actually made me a little sad as I look at my
Sleeping With Sirens shirt behind me from 2016.

(13:47):
But yeah, it's just, you know, it's.
Actually really funny. They're going to be by me in a
week and a half, but I don't know if I want to buy these
tickets. They're a little pricey.
You know, my friend says go to wait till day of show, go to not

(14:10):
Ticketmaster and and then you know, hopefully.
But you know what's weird is that in the next state over
which they're playing in, two days later, the price, the
tickets, the the price of the tickets are a third of the price
they are to be in my state, which I find kind of odd.
Brother, I say use that PTO. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
How long is that drive? You know what it is?

(14:32):
It's probably because it's in the middle of nowhere on the
next state over and it's on a Tuesday.
Like who? Who goes to a concert on a
Tuesday? Come.
On Let's Be I went to a concert,also on a Tuesday actually.
No, no, I'm just. Unfortunately, not in the middle
of nowhere. I'm in what they call a
commodity town. A hot A hot market.
Man, well, now I got to look up this Pierce The Veil concert.
I got to know what set they're playing.

(14:52):
Are they playing anything I like?
Do you think biggie cheese has abig.
Concert, it's quite the discography there's got.
If if you like any one of their albums, they will play plenty of
songs from each of them, that's good.
No, naturally be the. Way so we we we did watch one
piece this week that did happen I.
Actually did watch One Piece this week.
I bet you did, because this is probably the only part of the

(15:14):
show in this arc that you watched at a time.
No, no, this, this part of the series I saw.
And by part of the series, I mean the Katakuri fight.
I saw the. YouTube clips.
This is a summary yet brother, hold on, relax.
Do we need a summary for the fight that's been happening for
the past 20 episodes? It might not.

(15:36):
Let's talk about. It as as a matter of fact, we
do, we do want a summary for thethe fight that we've been having
the last 20 episodes. All right, right.
Thank you. Thank you.
Before I begin, does anyone wantto do this?
I am a part of it. I don't know that you literally
didn't answer me so I'm just going to read it.

(15:56):
As tension escalates across Totolands and Sanji and Pudding
begin their daring infiltration of Cacao Island, now swarming
with Oven's massive army of siblings and soldiers.
Meanwhile, deep within the mirror world, Luffy's
observation hockey has reached anew level.
He can now see glimpses of the future, allowing him to go toe
to toe with Katakuri like never before.

(16:17):
With only an hour left until hisplanned rendezvous with the
crew, Luffy unveils a new form. Gear 4 Snake Man This agile high
high speed transformation turns the tide of the battle with
Luffy launching relentless whiplash fast punches, forcing
Katakuri to unleash his full power in return.
Back at Cacao Island, Sanji and Putting successfully sneak into

(16:38):
Shuckle to town unnoticed, reflecting quietly on the
strange, complicated journey they've shared.
Out at sea, The Sunny Tear sorrythe 1000 Sunny nears its
destination as the Fire Tank Pirates lure Big Mom toward
Fluffy Island with the wedding cake.
And then, at long last, the brutal duel in the Mirror World
reaches its climax. Luffy and Katakuri exchange

(17:00):
final, devastating blows. When the dust settles, Luffy
stands victorious. Though Brulee initially escapes,
help arrives in an unexpected forum.
Peckham's returns with Brulee intow, offering Luffy a way out
and a chance to honor Pedro's legacy.
You know, I didn't read the summary ahead of time, but what
the fuck? They already gave away the bit.
It wasn't. It wasn't Peckham's it.
Was going to say who? No, yeah, who the fuck is?

(17:21):
Peckham's wasn't there? I really wish Mysterium.
Yeah, it was mysterious. I believe it's Miss Dums.
Miss Dums. Yeah, it's Miss Dums.
Yes, Alright, Miss Dums. Mysterious Miss Dums, this is
this is a wrestler name. What?
What a fucking name. OK, so now, Justin, please you.
The floor is yours. Bye.

(17:42):
By all means, give me. Give me your give me your
thoughts. Give me your opinions to
whatever the rant you're about to give me.
Ahead of time. Honestly, I forgot where I was
going previously, but to to restart, I actually have I think
for the first time in a long time, mixed feelings about these
set of episodes or maybe or maybe like just everything in
general. So Luffy versus Katakuri is a

(18:04):
really cool fight, sure. And this ending I would say is
also cool Gear for Snake man kind of cool.
I just can't help but feel a tadbittersweet about two things.
One. Continue the.
The result of the fight, and what I mean by that is that this
is possibly the like least convincing or least

(18:29):
authoritative win that Luffy's had in a fight in a big fight.
Like if I were to put this in the record books myself I would
have a big fat asterisk next to this W.
And on top of that Snake man wascool but I don't think this was
the time to reveal it. I understand why it was used in

(18:50):
terms of like how the technique was applied, which my
understanding is basically Luffywas moving so fast and erratic
that he attempted to force a server lag upon Katakuri's
observation. Yeah, he basically his bet was.
Tim is what? You're telling exactly.
Luffy's bet in this fight was that it kind of Curry, even

(19:11):
though he could see the future, his ping would be too high to
keep up. That was that was really the
bet. There was only so many inputs
you can account for before he just gets overwhelmed.
Exactly. Exactly.
Which is like a cool strategy and I get it.
I think my bittersweetness is that normally I feel that when

(19:32):
Luffy performs a new technique such as a gear the he may not
win like immediately. Like with the doe Flamingo, he
revealed gear four. He didn't win automatically, but
the technique he revealed was a overwhelming Doflamingo in some
regard. Like maybe Doflamingo had a
defense, but he had to get on the defense.

(19:53):
If he could not just, you know, swat it away with with the back
of his hand, he had to endure itor, or dodge right there.
There's a overwhelming nature toto this new power that Luffy
introduced. And I didn't get that with this
fight. So it's like kind of broken the
script for me. And I don't know if that means I
don't like this break from the script.

(20:15):
Wholeheartedly across the board or just in this particular
moment. But it's something I took note
of. And I'm like, I, you know, this
snake man feels like it's not doing enough.
You know, it's like we made a big spectacle and then it feels
like it maybe brought him up to speed with Katakuri.
And I'm not even sure I believe that.
Like it wasn't the normal of like, OK, I got this, this, this

(20:38):
last big thing in my in my pocket.
Now it's time to overwhelm you with my super duper move now.
And it wasn't that. Maybe some people can appreciate
that because that that wouldn't make sense to to subvert those
kind of expectations. But I don't know, I'm really
having mixed feelings about thisfight.
So I, I, I also have mixed feelings about the fight because

(21:00):
go on. So it's two-part reasons.
So the first part I visually I thought was fantastic.
I was like, finally the budget we got.
It this is where the budget went.
This is the budget, right? However, there's a little bit
in. My only nitpick is is how the
fuck is he not a loggia? Why are you still on this?

(21:23):
He's made of mochi. He turns himself into mochi.
Like what do you mean? This is just a logia, you can't
no. I can't believe you're still on
this after all this time. OK, I you you are.
I'm going to allow the floor foryou to give me narratively
reasons why you have mixed feelings.

(21:44):
I will not stand for the logia thing any further.
Move on. Moving on from that.
Thank you. Narratively wise, the thing that
bothers me was the first episodeof these three where it was
primarily flashback where it's it's almost like making it like
implied that Luffy learned this already, but completely forgot
about it until just now, Which II hate that like this whole like

(22:08):
to my interpretation of how thisfight was supposed to be was
that he was learning or like amplifying or learning it in the
moment. And those flashbacks made it
feel to me as if they're just like he's been, he's learned
this a long time ago and now he's just actually applying it.
I was like this. I hate that.
Like I continue, continue because to me it's like, it

(22:30):
feels like I'm trying to think of the, the, the way to phrase
it like. What, what, what, what, what may
I, may I cut in? And not, not to dishevel your,
your, your point that you're trying to make, because your
point is your own, but I, I, I think the real interpretation of
this whole flashback situation. It's not that he knew how to do

(22:52):
this or had done this once in the past.
It's that, OK, so when Rayleigh was first teaching you, boy, how
to do all this mumbo jumbo with observation hockey, really what
he told him was congratulations,yours, your job now is to dodge
my stick 100 times without usingyour eyeballs.
You have to do some other way. And he's like, bet got it and
was failing that for the longesttime.

(23:13):
And the only one that jumps out is like the quote UN quote, he's
done this before was hit #100 where Rayleigh literally said, I
really concealed myself that time.
I'm surprised that you found me.That has less to do with reading
the future and more to do with just unlocking your expertise
with your version of observationhockey and how to use it for

(23:35):
your advantage. The lesson in the back story
with Luffy, it wasn't that he's,he knows how to see the future,
like how to Curry, he just neverfucking tried.
It was that the way you apply your observation hockey can
unlock levels and very like creative levels that are not

(23:57):
just one-dimensional, they branch out into different
things. Like he's, he know, like he can
turn his brain off. He knows exactly how an animal
feels. That's one of his innate
versions of observation hockey. He can feel Rayleigh very
specifically in his own flashback because he feels his
emotions more than he feels his presence.

(24:17):
And that's when Rayleigh was like, wow, this is actually very
interesting. You know, if you, if you were to
manifest and like really tap into this power, you could do a
lot more with your observation hockey.
And then he started telling a story like there might even be
people out there that could see the future.
What are you going to do if you meet somebody like that?
And Luffy's like, well, I don't fucking know.
I guess the, the, the point of his story is to explain the
lengths with which a motherfucker uses and morphs

(24:41):
their, their gifts or their focus into an ability to do more
than what they originally could have in the past.
Now, whatever Katakuri's journeywas is his own business
entirely. But in Luffy's case, it was
really just more like Rayleigh being like, you know, like this
is your expertise. You should, you need to like you
need to delve into this. This is kind of fascinating

(25:03):
because you could do a lot with this and Luffy's like, I don't
know, I like meat and I think people are cool, I guess
sometimes. I would.
I don't see. This.
I don't see that unfortunately. I would add on that.
Well, sorry to interrupt you. I feel like that necessarily.
I wanna say this at least there was at no point did he see the

(25:24):
future in his flashback. So I want to, I want to nip that
in the butt. That did not happen.
Fair. I just feel like it takes away
from it, that's all. It's not like it's like the end
of the world, like it it is whatit is, right, But it's this is
just like my little like nitpick.
Like I understand why they included this in these episodes
and I understand, you know, got to save the budget for other

(25:46):
things, obviously, but it was just like one of those things.
I was like this is it it in my personal pain?
Poor taste? None really.
That's fair. It wasn't awful.
Like again, I have my new profile picture because of these
apps. Can't be bad.
I'm happy for you, I really AM. I can't believe.

(26:07):
Got a new wreck. Yeah, so for those at home who
don't have Devin as a friend on Discord, he changed his profile
picture to the rat that was inside the mouth of like, I
guess the tiger in Luffy's flashback.
I don't know when that happened,but Devin does.
You know you're not allowed to eat and.
Then the tiger comes up trying to feed Luffy because they're

(26:29):
buds. Then Luffy's like, no tiger, I'm
not eating the mouse, Rayleigh said.
No, I. I must have blanked one second
too long and missed the rat. Clearly bro like whole.
Anyway my. Observation hockey is very
specific. Specific that's.
Where your strengths are, Devin,your strength and observation.
Hockey is siding the rats. Your strength if you you need to

(26:58):
become the Pied piper is basically what I'm saying.
I already have a rat deck with the Pied Piper.
This is this is what Devin is going to do when he goes to like
a party. Or so he's like, hey, watch my
party trick. All the rats.
Jesus Christ, why? Why did you do this?
No, send them back. Send them back.

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It's like, no, no, you don't understand.
This one can cook. It can make me risotto.
Ratatouille actually. Wait no, I like the idea that
it's off brand Remy and it makesrisotto and not Ratatouille.
Evan's going to become the firstexterminator approved by PETA.

(27:44):
Just exterminator approved by PETA.
He's just going to, he's going to corral all the rats and then
be like, hey, I'm going to kill you.
Just follow me. Come with me, I we're going to
the trash can in the sky. He.
Just starts marching, playing his flute and all the rats go
like, do you think they turn into like a Disney cartoon
marching on 2 feet, Zach. So the only thing I want to add

(28:08):
to what Brendan was saying is that essentially how I interpret
it is that Rayleigh had enough time to teach Luffy the most
basic introductory level of hockey for especially for like
observation, other, blah blah blah.
Right? As far as I can tell, and he
very passively, very, I forget the phrase, but he, he mentioned

(28:32):
to Luffy's like, Hey, you know, if he got really good, you can
maybe do something like see in the future or blah, blah, blah.
But I, I, I think Luffy did likemy understanding is that like
Luffy did just forget all that crap.
And so he got his ass beat for three hours and he was like, oh,
he's got to see in the future toreally talk about that one.
Anyway, I'm a I'm a try to survive it.

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I can't believe they've been fighting.
For 9 1/2 hours. I mean, I can.
Did you see how many episodes we've been going through this?
Yeah, I can believe it. You're right, but also time.
As a analysis time time, you gotto be 1000.
The real question is, is this good time dilation or bad time
dilation? Like 9 1/2 hours to 20 episodes
is a bad ratio. It it was really good for like 1

(29:14):
episode where we time skipped 4 hours and that was it.
But I, I, I want to address so while we're here, you know, I, I
also want to address this position from Justin, which I, I
feel is a very fair position. You know, this is definitely AW
asterisk moment for your boy here.

(29:34):
I. So.
Go ahead, please. So I do want to talk about the
fight as a whole in my mind. So when I first saw Snake Man,
you know, again, like always, I always stream the episodes and
yeah, I audibly went, oh shit, when Snake Man shows up, Yeah,
yeah. Yeah, yeah.
And. Then most of the way through the

(29:55):
fight I was like, this is kind of just like fighting Anaru all
over again. This is kind of like fighting
Anaru all over again, but. Instead of bouncing off the
mirror, he's bouncing off himself and then ping diffing
him. He he is ping diffing him I I
guess I don't understand. Also most of the fight with
Anuru took place in like 3 seconds.

(30:17):
He went dump, he went gum gum stupid and then fell off the
boat and then punched him with agiant golden fuck off pistol.
I I think I understand Devin so so with with when he fought
Anuru, he went gum gum stupid. So Anuru couldn't predict his
next move because Luffy didn't know his next move because he
wasn't thinking. Now she's just thinking.
Now in a similar effect. Yeah, we love growth.

(30:40):
What's wrong? He's.
Trying to also stop Katakuri from know what he's thinking by
just overwhelming him with so many thoughts and in this case,
you know, actions and inputs. So.
So I catch what he's putting down.
He's trying to overwhelm his GPUand his RAM.

(31:01):
He's frame blocking him, but yeah, no, yeah.
And then when the fight happened, he's like, ha ha, I'm
victorious. I was like, Are you sure about
that? But that looks like a that that
looks like a draw. Like you're both laying on the
ground. Yes.
And then he gets up and he's like, you'll be back, right?

(31:23):
And he's like, yeah. And he falls over and I'm like,
yeah, this is a draw. This is you.
This is a. We'll run this back later.
Yes, I I feel. On a roller coaster of emotions
here. So so when Luffy comes out of
his crater seemingly victorious,quote UN quote, I was like, OK,

(31:45):
he won. You know, expected kind of lame.
That kind of Curry got back up and I was like, oh, let's go,
let's go. I was like, yeah, let's keep,
let's keep going. And then when you ask this
question of like, will you be back?
My, my expectation for the next move was going to be like, oh,
they're going to have some weirdbro moment.
It's going to be like a Currys friend now.

(32:06):
Yeah, kind of great friend Arc just initiate.
He's like, you know what? I never actually liked my mom,
you know, get stronger and I hope you fight her later.
That's where I thought this is going.
And I was like, no, come on. I mean, like that would be cool,
but like, no, not like this, like not now, like I, I don't
know, actually win or lose the fight, then make that offer.
If if that were to happen, you know, but it didn't.

(32:29):
So I guess that's good question,Mark.
So OK, so may I have the talkingstick for for for a minute or
two? This is this is where I am at
and why I actually appreciate narratively how this ended.
The the real victory here was inthat Luffy demonstrated whether

(32:52):
it be through his stamina conviction what what he learned
or whether it be snake man. All of these things put together
created a picture for this purple headed motherfucker by
the name of Katakuri A a vision or a version of this rubber
bastard that he did not know he was facing until he got to the

(33:12):
end of this fight. I feel as though this stopped
being a fight between Luffy and the commander at about the right
about the same time that Kodak Curry realized it when he was
like as big one of Big Mom's sweet commanders.
I must. And he's like, Nah, Nah, that's
not that's not why I'm here right now.
I I want I want this fight rightnow for me.
He was here for himself. And by the time you get to the

(33:34):
end of this fight, I feel Katakuri did not really lose
here, nor do I feel like that Luffy really won here.
Narratively, The reason why thistranspires the way it does is
because I think Katakuri was satisfied enough in the fight he
got and was drained enough with the fight that he got that he
was like, you know, it's just not even I'm not I'm not getting

(33:58):
back up for this right now, because I I don't have I don't
have the conviction to stop thisman from getting away and doing
what he wants to do next. Right now.
I just wanted that good, good fight and I got it.
I think that's the reason why you why he felt he went back on
his back and even as Louie's like, are you coming back?
And he said abso fucking lutely got to beat big mom in such a

(34:21):
short amount of time. Got a Curry who is known for
being this dude who paints a version of himself that isn't
actually himself. He he tries to put himself in a
very fine light in order to, youknow, corral his siblings into
believing that he's this perfecthuman being.
He's never lived for himself. And then in comes this rubber
bastard who lives only for himself 100% of the time.

(34:43):
And slowly but surely he's realized just how fucking
jealous he is of that. And it wasn't until he asked
Luffy what he was going to do next or if he was ever coming
back that he just re solidified.Like, yeah, I really like the
cut of this kids jib. I, I, I I'm out, I'm good.
The. Line that he said though.
So fucking good. I know you're seeing pretty far

(35:06):
into the future. Oh, you're even seeing further
than I am in the future. So this is where I'm at.
I feel like, and, and in the community, this fight has a huge
schism where plenty of people actually hate it because of how

(35:29):
it ended. Oh yeah, of course.
Well, people want to see Loopy win.
Yeah, I've I've really ever heard good things about this
from outsiders. Everyone loves the fight.
Most people dislike how it ends with with without a very clear W
in Luffy's hands. Me, me as a as a as a cyclical
enjoyer of this franchise. I, I already, I'm already like

(35:50):
my default is it curb my expectations and I'll have a
good time. I love when the main protagonist
doesn't get the clear W, So I already love that inherently,
but now we take an opportunity to actually unpack that in, in
what was going on between these two characters and why it's
satisfying to have a protagonistnot get that hard W by the end

(36:10):
of this. What?
What did we gain in its place? Well, we gained the respect of a
brand new character that we had only met in this one arc that
only lived for, you know, the bare part of 80 chapters or so.
We proved that Luffy had more tolearn and more to do before he
was good enough to take on an emperor.
Because up until now, he's kind of been trying to roll through
the new world like hot shit thing that he could take on

(36:31):
everybody and he can't even takeon the right hand man of one of
the emperor's as of right now. In fact, I would even argue he
still kind of can't. Maybe when he's like back to
100% and he goes for the salty run back against Katakuri, he'd
do a little bit better the second time.
But as of right now, we are in aplace where our protagonist has
tried time and time again to demonstrate that he is ready to
basically quickly finish the series.

(36:52):
And ODA keeps coming back and ustrying to go like, no, no, we're
not. We're not there yet.
We're not there. Luvi, we got a little more to do
yet. And I, I appreciate, I love
that. I really do.
I I love the grind. I love the clean my heroes get a
fat L handed to them because. It humbles them.
And the best part about this resolution is that it's not
really an L and it's certainly not a W It's, it started as it's

(37:17):
a fight to the death. It's a, it's a diet.
It started as a fight to the death that slowly turned into
two characters. Now, to be fair, I think I think
in terms of gaining respect, it was mostly Katakuri that gained
respect to Luffy. Luffy was in I'm beating you no
matter what mode. I'm pretty sure from start to
finish he didn't have like even with Katakuri, he's like, you

(37:39):
know what, You know what, kid, Iactually think I kind of like
you. And he's like, wait, really?
I mean, OK, but also I'm still going to kick your head, which
is like really funny to me. Although I will say Luffy being
the kind of guy that he is, you know, he another cherry on the
top. And this kind of goes back to
his back story, which I, I understand, maybe take it or

(38:00):
leave it in some ways. When he expresses to Rayleigh,
you know, like how is he going to deal with people that are
going to have such like more sophisticated observation hockey
than him? And his, his expression is like,
oh, it depends on what kind of person they are.
Luffy, I, I told this to Christian and I stand by it.
But my boy has very very low IQ and like 100% EQ which is

(38:22):
emotional intelligence. This dude can sense how a person
is feeling a mile away without even like like he like smell
their body odor and know exactlywhat they need an emotional.
Man, I'm. Telling you very true yes from
from that that kind of emotionalwe're back to zero we're back to
0 can you agree more it? Has to be a pure of heart.

(38:43):
Yes, yes, the moment it is very platonic.
Platonic emotion. You don't know what this is.
I have no idea what this is. Why are you?
Why are you doing this to me right now?
It is a rose. This is not meat.
I don't understand what I can dowith this.
Your boy. Has or never tasted it before?

(39:03):
Your boy has incredible emotional intelligence in and
the cherry on the top for this skirmish in like myself was
after he quote UN quote wins thethe first thing he does is he
takes his fedora off his straw hat and he what is he?
He covers the the dude's mouth now, at no point in their in

(39:23):
their skirmish did did Katakuri say anything about whether or
not he has he's self-conscious about his mouth.
Luffy just like knows right? Like he no words were exchanged,
but he he gets it. And what did he want for for
Katakuri after he essentially threw the match at this point in
time, he was just like, all right.
Well, you know what, the way that his folks might treat him

(39:44):
over the way that he looks has absolutely nothing to do with
the duel that we just had. So I'm going to take it upon
myself to just shield him from that embarrassment today, right
now. And then he fucked off and went
on his merry way. And I.
Don't know about. I don't know about not knowing
that. Like I'm pretty sure it's very
boldly stated about. OK, well I mean to be fair like
his his siblings were like. I see what you're saying.

(40:06):
I like, I agree with you. I love that scene.
Like when I saw I was like, oh, that was the first thing I, you
know, I was like, oh. He covered his little face with
the fedora. It's also to give an excuse for
changing the, you know, the the outfit.
Fucking softy, but it's good shit.
Justin, are you doing over there?

(40:27):
Any notes? Any commentary?
Not in this section. I'm all good, actually.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I remember the very important
talking points to myself. I would have there's got to be
an edit out out there for this thing, but when he goes mochi
wheel mode and. I.
I just. I just thought of Sonic spit

(40:49):
dash noises just. Watch you guys.
Beyblade. Across you guys, rest assured
someone within our own communityhas already done that.
Yes, wherever you are, I need you to answer my DMS right now.

(41:09):
Gimme Gimme, don't worry, I willvet it and I will send it when
it's when it's officially OK to stand to watch.
Gimme it now, I demand. It I do what a memes I do, we

(41:30):
want to take a quick moment to also mention that something that
we don't get in these set of episodes is just how very
maticulate and like well craftedthis fight was from a panelling
perspective in the manga. You know, I think one of the
reasons why this fight was extremely hyped for me when I

(41:51):
was reading it week to week was I love the fact that one of
Oda's number one reasons why he made Luffy be Mr. Fantastic is
that he just wants to draw like crazy weird positions and and
and poses with his protagonist because he thinks that that's
just fun. So the best part about making

(42:12):
Luffy versus another guy that could do the exact same thing.
You can have a lot of freedom and a lot of flexibility with
your panelling and what and whatthese mother fuckers are doing.
I have AI have a video I'll say,and I'll put in the maybe the
discord or something if people are interested.
That literally just like it's like a 30 minute long video that
discusses like the nature of paneling as an art form and like

(42:34):
the four main things that, you know, make or break the, the,
the, the, the setting or like the, the, the, the, the movement
of act like good manga paneling,like 1 of it being like how it
catches your eye or how it movesthe reader down to the next
page. And this fight specifically is
like a 10 out of 10 for panelingalone.

(42:55):
I, I always recommend people just read the fight in the manga
from start to finish just so they could see how beautiful it
looks and how well crafted it is.
I mean it was still a lot of funto watch, don't get me wrong,
but when would you see Python inits form in the manga and how
Luffy shoots it out? You as like the reader, you
actively follow its trajectory. Like you see the arm and like

(43:17):
the way it's drawn like your. Your natural instinct is to
follow it to the end of the fistwhere it where it inevitably
makes contact with Katakuri's face.
And the way it's drawn from likethe outside perspective and how
much sense it makes is just so fascinating and so much fun.
I can't recommend it enough, so I'll probably do that for the
discord anyway. I I wanted to make another point

(43:39):
because you just reminded me of it.
Luckily, yes, the names of the, the, the, the, the moves.
I understand why King Cobra is the, you know, the top one,
right? King of the pirates.
I get it. Right.
Sure. OK, Black.
Mamba's more deadly. Yo shout to my boy Kobe one time
that's. Fine.

(44:00):
It was a deadly, vastly more venomous, dangerous snake.
Should have been the finale but I understand for the meme that.
Had to be king. Cobra because I get it, but it's
no Black Mamba. Is mad at society for valuing a
king cobra more than a mamba? Exactly that shit.

(44:21):
That shit is black Air Force energy like that thing fucks you
up. King Cobra.
Nah, not the same. What's what's your opinion on
Buzz Cut Mochi Devin? The first one was neat, but then
I don't, I don't know like like don't get me wrong, I love a

(44:46):
good clothesline like in any martial art or even any
animation. Like I love seeing a good right
in the shoulder, but like right right.
The the animation made it look like he was like elbow dropping
him or like karate chopping him down the head.
It's not the same. OK, that's well, hold on.
Are are we talking about the thefinal hit or are we talking

(45:08):
about the one where he literallylike spins him around in a merry
go? Round I love that the the merry
go round. Pretty fire though the final.
Hit not so good the just watching him go like you're
stuck to my arm give Ricky bopped.
Like that was sick. I I really like that for

(45:28):
whatever. Reason sounds like bro if you
can't get out what how does he win?
The answer to your question is he he threw him to the ground as
like one final like you see, even with your up, even with
your power up, like we're we're done.
But he's like, oh, I could I know you could still hear me
down there. So the answer to the question is

(45:49):
he let him go so that he could taunt him for a minute.
You wanted to egg him back into the fight for a SEC.
That, that, that was a moment that got my, my adrenaline
going. I was like, oh, like, like I
felt the drama kicking. I was like, oh.
I felt, I felt the drama. How's he going to do it?
This man's butt get brutalized. I I just, I love when he's like,
you know, mochi tire mode, though, and and he's chasing him

(46:12):
around with his fists and he does like the that the skirt
likes gets underneath. Them imagine a cure slide over
under Luby's arms. Also in that particular moment
in my head I was like, my man isliterally just playing Tron.
He's trying to avoid the light waffles.
Luffy, you do be playing Tron, that's very true.

(46:35):
I just love his spurs. His spurs are good, Yeah, a
little. Jingle a little.
Jingle here and there when it like whenever he takes a step or
what you know, like he gets bopped backwards, you hear a
little ching. There there was a moment in this
fight where I didn't know where the spike came from.
I guess he just made it from hismochi when he made his club or
whatever. A part of me thought it was a

(46:56):
spur for whatever reason, but there was a moment where he just
hits Luffy in the face. Oh, like pointed end first.
And it is. If I slowed down the frame, I
bet I could just see how far that needle goes into Luffy's
forehead. Before he gets shot, I.
Was like, oh, I look like. You know, the frame that I love
is the first time that he or actually the second time that

(47:19):
Katakuri is about to get smackedand he's like trying to analyze
the situation because he's like after Luffy, first of all,
Katakuri totally eggs Luffy on for this transformation, right?
Like before Luffy transforms, he's like, yes, I want this
challenge. He's like, he sees it in the
future and he's like, I don't care, give it to me, I can beat
it. And he's like, all right, fine,
let's let's tussle. Let's take it toe to toe.

(47:41):
Anyway, the first time he throwsa punch and then Katakuri dodges
it and he's just like, oh, wow, that's it, huh?
That's all you did. You just you, you got a little
bit bigger, a little bit faster and and that's the best.
And then he gets smacked up. He's like, when that happened, I
was like, really, are we surprised by this?
And they but. He doesn't know.

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Okay, so to be fair, snake man is really just kind of like a
reskin of a move he's already done while in a bounce man form.
I guess just like probably some magnitude faster because.
It's made for snakes. He has less masks.
He does have less masks. He he just does a very fast
version of the cobra move or the, the whatever it was called

(48:23):
from when he did it in dress Rosa against Dolph Flamingo.
And so we as an audience, we, weknow the bit.
We know that he, you know, he throws his first out and then,
you know, he bounces it, I guessoff the air and, you know,
ricochets it like a billiard, like he's playing billiards in
3D space. And eventually the first like
chases people down and it it'll it'll smack a a dude, but in in

(48:44):
snake man form or against Katakuri here, Katakuri's like,
oh, wow, look, you threw a punch.
He's unaware that this bit is where Luffy throws his first
around like he's playing ping pong.
He does. He doesn't know this joke.
We do. He's just like, what the fuck
was all that? And then he quit very quickly
analyzes the second the second punch, though, the one that hits
him in slow motion. And you like he knows he can't

(49:05):
dodge it, But it's this is what I love to to be fair to Luffy,
like he was right. His he definitely out speed
outspeed Katakuri's ping, but you know what he couldn't out
speed was the ping required to hockey up his chin right before
impact, which I did find kind offunny.
The dude can hockey up his chin before he can dodge.

(49:27):
I mean, it's just too good. He is.
He's a, he's a force of nature. Katakuri.
What a guy. This is why I love mochi Donuts.
This is why you love mochi Donuts.
I I actually had no idea. Speaking of the Donuts, I had
this thought while looking at his mouth throughout most of
these episodes. Which is he?
It's it's straight gums, like hegot pointy teeth, right?

(49:50):
And there's big ass gaps betweenthem.
That must hurt, yes. No wonder he likes Donuts.
It's like soft food. Well, I mean, that's that might,
that might be true. I mean, I don't know, maybe or
or dude, just like Sedona, that's fine.
I mean I am doing it wrong. It's fine.
Like I I get that, you know, we all have our own, you know,
pleasure foods. Like, I wonder if that's like an
like element to it, like the sensitive.

(50:11):
He has sensitive gums. He might, maybe he does Devin.
Maybe he has sensitive gums and that's why Donuts are his
favorite. Oh boy.
But I, I will say I'm glad that we're here.
I, I love the Luffy versus kind of Curry fight for a myriad of
reasons. I'm glad you all got to
experience it and and this is where the budget went.

(50:34):
So all I'm saying is next week come in ready for less budget.
Oh boy, I. I don't know, I can't speak on
it because I don't remember whatthe next few episodes look like,
but if I was a betting man. It's going to be bad, so.
This is where the budget went. How?
Bad. Could it be all we're doing is
seemingly running away? Maybe.

(50:57):
I don't actually know that, but that's my prediction.
Great segue. You know Sanji and and Pudding
are in position to prepare to get Luffy out of Mirror World.
They have no idea if he's gonna be able to in time, but Luffy
meets none other than the mysterious Miss Stones.
The the dude who catchers catchers Brulee again all.
Off screen and everything that. I did not see that coming.

(51:19):
I was also genuinely like OK this this idiot let his escape
key walk away. How?
How get out? And then, oh, you didn't
remember this part? I I still I still can't.
Figure out how Peckham's got into the mirror mirror world.
Yeah, I I just assumed that likewhat had happened was that.
And then he's like, hey, yo, getback in there.

(51:41):
He's like, he's like, gotcha. You know what gotcha branch and
then then we're right back. Where was that?
Just like cuts from. I'm running away, Big Brother,
no. I think the reality is that's
what happened. We just have to accept it.
But the reality is that ODA was like, I don't want to draw the

(52:03):
panels to justify this, right? It matters so little.
It matters, so running out of. Budget, but like for himself.
He's like I, we need to, we needto close, we need to close up
shop. I, I, I put everything.
I put everything and more into this kind of Curry fight.
I, I don't want to spend, I don't want to spend any more
time in the mirror world. We're, we're all done.

(52:23):
We're all tired. I've milked this for as much as
I could. Yes, it's it's time.
It's time to reach the rest of the falling action.
Anyway, here's Mysterious Miss Dumbs.
You know, actually, doesn't it? I mean I made a little little
stupid joke but now I'm actuallyasking myself, is there like
budget like like is there like ain terms like manga Co making
like panel like like like how many panels does ODA have to

(52:47):
work with? And is there like a budget like
related to that? Like you can only afford like 20
panels per chapter or whatever. There, I mean, there
storyboarding does require a certain number of pages.
And if you bill a certain numberof pages and you have an A
vision for how your single chapter is supposed to go, then
yeah, you have like a limited number of panels to work with.

(53:08):
And not to mention that every panel that you plan for is work
that you have to also plan for. Because then there's the
drawing, the shading. He's got his own team that are
like, as he storyboards his ideas, he might have editors
that go like, I don't know, to sensei.
We might wanna either bring thisin or take that out because
timing reasons, blah, blah, blah.

(53:29):
Like there's, there's all sorts of things that go into like the
planning phases. It's not just it's not just ODA
at his desk every, well, I mean,in a large part it is.
It's not just ODA at his desk every week going like I'm going
to draw my full complete story that I have in the in the Dome
ski from start to finish with one panel at a time.
And I have no changes that I envision at any point in my
linear narrative. No, like, no, come on, let's be

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fucking. Let's be so for real, right?
The best example I've ever seen.Like kind of like showing the
difference between between like like the the final product and
like manga is actually one Punchman because he would release
like his like I, I forgot what they were called it like it was
it had a different name, but it's like an even shittier

(54:12):
drawing of, of the manga. But it's, it was, it was like
like, you know, like to this is where I'm going with it.
And it would be relatively accurate.
And then like you see the the official panels come out where
it's all crisp and drawn pretty and everything interesting.
It was hot garbage and it was fantastic.

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One second. Let me see if I.
Can find it, but you got to remember things like, I mean, in
theory a single chapter of the manga is like an episode of TV,
right? Like every chapter needs to have
like a title and by extension, if it has a title then it must
have like a reason for that title.
There must be like at least one cohesive thing that ties

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everything together, or at the very least, like one very
important key element that is like the, the the the
cornerstone of the chapter that is released, even if like other
events simultaneously happen alongside it.
Like, no, there's a lot of playing that go into this kind
of and he's done this, you know,however many 1000 and so mod
chapters at this point. That's fair, That's fair.
But yeah, Peckham's is here. Peckham Peckham is here to the

(55:18):
rescue, I think. He is to the rescue, OK.
Hold up, hold up. I am not fully writing off the
potential that Peckham's returnsto villain here and just serves
him up to his family. What do you think?
You even said I need to help youbecause because big bro pager
wanted to help you. What do you mean?
Listen, my my man Peckham's has had torn allegiances.

(55:42):
Who knows how many? He he has been a little wishy
washy on his maybe not wishy washy, but he has he has gone
back and forth on his allegiances, but mainly, mainly
just on vibes. Like I respect that.
Like he, he's like he's, he's sussing it out, you know?
Listen man, like I said, I am not writing this potential off.
I I think that's a crazy take. I won't, I won't tell you you're

(56:03):
wrong. That's that's a crazy take.
That is an insane take. You think this man put on his
wrestling uniform so that he could lie?
Yes. OK, well, I guess is that, is
that what wrestling is at the end of the day?
Always has been, always will be.Always has been.
Always. Will be I think the you know,

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the only other major thing that happened.
Yo hey did can I just add did did Sanji get at these set of
episodes though? Did I think they kissed?
I think they kissed or she kissed on the cheek.
Definitely a cheek kiss for sure.
Proposing the question if if Sanji if Sanji bagged pudding in
this set of episodes that that that is my question to the team

(56:47):
right now. I I don't have a definitive
answer, but I have a definitive opinion and it's a -1 because
boy, am I frustrated with the fact that one Japan.
I swear, if you bring up the pudding's age, can we just, can
we just not? Let's let's just that we all.
Know we don't deep on it. It's a thing.
It makes you upset and it contributes to my further
frustration of like man Pudding is like, in my opinion, low key

(57:11):
like the best presented like female love interests for Sanji
that I've seen so far. You know, one because she
actually likes him. So what was that very crazy
radical woman likes Anji, but also somebody?
Of the opposing sex actually enjoying this man's company?

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Go on. I'm like, wow, he, he, you know,
he, he meets this person that likes him and they're all, they
also share his passion for like they're not necessarily cooking,
but like they, they should love for the kitchen in some regard.
And I love that dynamic. I would love to see that dynamic
play out more in the future in any way, shape or form.
They can't even keep the bit where she's still like Doctor
Jekyll and Mr. Hides him where we're just like, Oh my darling,

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I hate you, don't touch me. I would love that.
That's a great guy. Keep keep her for the rest of
time. Absolutely.
But we probably aren't going to get that and also the thing
makes it weird for me and I hatethat.
Hey Justin, I interest you in ananime called My Dress Up
Darling. No, don't, don't, don't, don't
go in on that. No, just don't do it.
It's a beautiful anime, you know.

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I, I will say this, I will say this.
I am so, so sorry that Christianis not here this week, because
if he was I'd tell him brother. This is how we get pudding on
the fucking boat, baby. This is the moment.
Just right. Now it's the time.
Are you telling me you don't believe that wholeheartedly?
Christian is is unfazed. He to be fair, I haven't I

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haven't poked the bear in in a couple of weeks.
I'll I'll admit to that. I'm.
Confused. What are we?
What at? One point in time.
Pudding's going on the boat, bro.
Pudding's absolutely getting on this fucking boat for sure.
Guaranteed she she is coming along for the ride.
Especially it's over. You don't think so after all
this? No, I think she's gonna be like,
like, don't get me wrong, like the relationship is still gonna

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be sailing, but. The relationship is real.
Her her presence for the remainder of the series won't
be. Exactly like her presence won't
be out in the shit. Devastating for everybody
though. Come on man.
And Sanji's going to be like man.
I wonder what he's. Doing I would love to see

(59:19):
Pudding as a crew member and like vibing and just having that
like reoccurring bit of the evillike not helping Sanji but then
helping Sanji like I would love.The evil pastry chef we have
along the way. Exactly the evil.
Pastry chef, right? Like, like, I like the bit.
I know there's a lot of people out there that do not like this

(59:40):
bit. I love this bit.
I am all in on this I. Agree IA 100% love this bit.
It's a bit that could fit in very well.
Also, side note, while it's on my, you know, while I have the
talking stick, I love how selective Sanji's memories of
him and her are. Like, very selective.

(01:00:01):
Like, like we have all the good times we've had together.
Not almost on their wedding day where he's like, oh, you look
beautiful like that. You have such a pretty eye.
Yeah. I don't close over the sun.
We just trying to kill each other.
Saji is being a very kind personhere, but I feel like it's a
fucking bold faced lie for him to be like.

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And you know what, Pudding? It was all worth it because we
did we could do it together. I'm like brother, I, I know at
this point like you've forgiven her, you've moved on, but like,
let's be so fucking honest. She made you miserable for at
least a 12 to like 8 hour period.
Don't don't mess with me right now.

(01:00:44):
You were literally. Crying in the rain bro, Like
come on. You were.
Sobbing. You had a bad fucking.
Day yesterday it was like, yeah,it was like 2 days ago like.
Come on man, you need, we need to be so honest with ourselves.
Don't, don't. You could, you could be.

(01:01:06):
You could move on and be the bigger person.
I respect that, I really do. But don't.
Sanji in the middle of an abusive relationship.
Is this love? Is this?
Love. Ohh, wow, that that it's really
hard because that's kind of whathis upbringing was like.
So yeah. Sanji in in case it hasn't been

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really, you know, bashed into your skull during in the
duration of this arc. He doesn't have a lot of great
role models other than Zef, which is why he's basically a
carp and copy he doesn't. Know it yet, but a Vankov.
A little bit of a Vankov, yeah. He doesn't know it yet.
Yeah. That's, that's baked in there.
No. He's got that's definitely like

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really deep down in there. It might be in a closet, but you
know what? It's in there.
He developed his most outrageouskinks from Vankov's side.
Guaranteed for sure, for sure. There's some shit on that island
we don't even know about yet. We we don't even know brothers.
I'm pretty sure Ivanka at one point actually made him a woman.

(01:02:10):
I. Wouldn't surprise me.
It would not surprise me like. Dressed up as one okay, he.
Became a yeah, he became a crossdresser or a drag queener,
however you want to interpret that.
But no, he was never made a full-fledged a member of the
opposite saying. Get Scissor handed the guys
name. You didn't have to say that that

(01:02:31):
was. Zuma Did I understand his
reference? Yeah, scissor heads.
Yeah, going to Zuma where you flip flops every chapter, or
rather panel. Oh, I OK, I.
What do you think? That's what he was getting at?
What do you think I was talking?About what you said
scissorhanded, I thought you had.
What scissorhands have to do with this?
His name assuming, it seems, scissorhands.

(01:02:52):
OK, well, I I maybe I misinterpreted.
Excuse me, I know. What misinterpretation you could
gather from that? What, what, what do you?
What is it? What is it when a woman and a
woman are together? Justin Love.
OK, yes, I know what that alleged fake.
OK, I know what that. Really.
That that is the bit that my mind thought Devin was saying.
I was mistaken. Scissor hands is like its own

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thing. He.
Was just throwing the word hand in there for no reason.
I don't know. Brendan, I'm sorry to break it
to you, but you're the dumb 1 here.
But I'm not a rat bastard all the time.
I I am pressing the X button on my keyboard so hard right?
Now Brandon is the dumb right now, alright?

(01:03:35):
Don't. Don't be foolish.
That's. Fair.
That's fair. I'll I'll, I'll accept that.
I will accept that it. Wasn't.
It's OK, Devin, I knew. I always knew.
And This is why I'm Devin's advocate for moments like these.
All right, but all that being said, yes, for those keeping

(01:03:55):
track at home, putting is an actual child and a minor at the
ripe old age of like 15, I thinkmaybe 16 at best in Sanji Japan
at the time of this series is 21and this is a very normal age
gap even at this age I think in their culture.
Also in parts of America too, which is.
Just gonna be like, brother, I find them to be cute together

(01:04:19):
and I'm not going to think aboutanything more than that because
culturally, if I overthink it, it's just gonna ruin it for me,
so I move on. Head empty, no thoughts.
That empty. No thoughts.
Oh and also the cake is almost on fluffy island.
Congratulations Beji. You are the.
You are the. You are the man, always.
Has been. The the.
One line Father of the Year. The one line that the the goons
had was like quick, let's throw the cake off on the island and

(01:04:41):
Beji's like hey yo, let's die together and they're like, fuck.
Yeah. And then?
Like they just completely. Make it to the island or we die
together. And they're all like, fuck yeah,
Father, I love you. Like I said, father.
Is this what being in a cult looks like?
Nah. Nah.

(01:05:02):
Bro this is all about family. This is family.
This is a true meaning of you can't tell me.
That true meaning? These aren't the same character.
Dude, Diesel would go hard as a cast.
That's a that's a veggie fan cast.
Vin Diesel. Now we're talking.
We got a new casting call one ofthese days.

(01:05:23):
I don't remember the last time we did.
One, we did it. There, we just did it.
We got an extra special treat for you this.
Week list of potential subjects.No, there's no other better
results done. No ones.
Better the Christ. Well, except for the best actor
of all time, Robert Demiro, of course.

(01:05:44):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Don't worry, we. Have a picture beggie saying I'm
walking here how? Could you not?
Because I just see him rolling and hey Mr. and hating.
And that may definitely rise dirty.
That's the song that I hear whenI that's the song that I hear

(01:06:05):
when Katakuri is rolling around with the doughnut, that that's
the song I hear in my not a dude.
They see me rolling and then Katakuri's face comes out of the
doughnut. They hate it.
You know, going back to that fora quick second, when I saw that
scene I immediately thought overthought to myself, man this
reminds me of that one Kirby game I had Kirby squeeze squad

(01:06:27):
and one of Kirbys forms is WheelKirby where you basically do the
exact same thing and that's one of my favorite forms of Kirby.
I love that. I love that for you.
I really do. Oh, fuck.
All right, well, I think I thinkwe covered I think we covered
everything this week. Yes, we did.
Any any other any other closing thoughts?
Other other other topics. They wanna they they wanna give
to the people. Luffy said no step on snack.

(01:06:48):
He he I guess, well I guess I mean he he more so just said I
am snake, but I don't think he ever said don't step on me to be
fair. It was implied.
I guess it was implied I. Respect.
This is when he was going to, you know, Katakuri was going to

(01:07:09):
kick downward on him. Like, you know, he'll kick him
down and he's like, no. No step on snake.
That was the no step on snake. It was subliminal.
Having clearly got the messaging.
All right, well, since I think we've made it against all us,

(01:07:30):
next week we'll be 872 to 874. Moving on to quotes.
Who's got quotes? Got a single quote for the first
time and who knows how many weeks.
I yeah, I'm honestly, I was kindof get disappointed in you that
you come here every single fucking week with nothing to say
my. Boy, Brooke was oh boy, of
course we. All know what it is.

(01:07:56):
We all know when when the the the Straw Hats on the Sunday are
assessing the situation. What is he saying?
No longer tailing us. And I guess they see smoothing
off in the distance or whatever the case was, like, what are we
going to do, guys? And Brooke goes, I'm going to
I'm going to negotiate with the giant woman.
Excuse me, can I see pants? I want to see that line stuff.

(01:08:17):
The the part where he says I'm going to negotiate with her
really tickle my belly. Negotiations have failed.
Afterwards though, you did say that.
I remember Nami beating him overthe.
Head so over the head he's on the ground because negotiations
have fallen. Can I please, can I please give

(01:08:38):
you the dub version of this moment?
Yes. Please.
We got Brooke being like, he, hecomes out and he's, he's like,
you know, this movie's still chasing him.
They're all like talking amongstthemselves.
And then Brooke's like, well, there's no other way.
I simply have to negotiate with that massive woman pursuing us.
Same. He clears.
He clears the start. He goes might I and then, and

(01:09:00):
then fucking Nami beats me over the head and goes like you.
You've got to be kidding me. I forgot what Nami said, but
what she said was also funny. I wish I could remember.
The line he snaps back with AI guess negotiations have failed.
God. Bless, it's so fucking gold dude
I love it so much. I too were trying to negotiate

(01:09:22):
with the giant woman to shut up.All right, any other quotes?
I already said my quote earlier,which is just the part where
where Katakuri is just saying. So I see you're for looking even
further than I am into the future because you have to talk
about how he's like I'll come back, it's king of the pirate
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.
So one's P speech copy paste. Couldn't agree more.

(01:09:43):
The the moment where Katakuri simply asks him are you?
Will you come back to face Big Mom one day?
And he he doesn't miss a beat. He goes.
I have to because. Because I'm gonna be king of the
goddamn pirates, baby. That's that's my rubber.
That's my rubber boy right there.
That's my rubber man. Oh, you got you guys sniped me
on all fronts. I brought I brought 3 tonight
and they're all gone. Oh shit, Mission Control, we got

(01:10:06):
them. Negotiations have failed.
All right, all right, moving on.We have, of course, the Golden
Ham and I'm going to be so honest with you guys the.
Fucking. Rat no, that is, that is simply

(01:10:27):
not going to happen. I will only vote Katakuri or
Luffy. I love them both for different
reasons. I'm voting Katakuri on this.
I'm moved. I've been moved by this man.
Fantastic unanimous pick. Note to self, I now need to
check and update our Golden Ham winners list because he's being

(01:10:48):
close with Zorro here. Is he getting close with Zorro?
I don't actually. Share that.
But he's got in. He got two in a row.
That's already an incredible feat.
This is pretty cool. Actually, that is pretty cool.
He's got a cruise at least that 3 for this arc if not more.
Guaranteed 3. I don't know if he's got more
than that but guaranteed 3 for sure.
She's crazy bro. All right, well, that was an

(01:11:09):
easy debate, all right? It wasn't even debate.
It was more just like please game.
Decision. Take your trophy.
I just hope it's the with a hat on his face that's the photo.
You know what it's it's up to the man.
With the mochi wheel, but the mochi wheel go.
Actually would love if it was the mochi wheel.
That'd be awesome. You see me rolling, strolling

(01:11:35):
and trying to catch me riding dirty.
Anyway, moving on, fan mail. Yes, we got a we got a letter
here from Panda Pools and they. Write Panda Pools again.
Hello one piece of the Lime hosts.
It's been a while since I've emailed but I had to reach out
again after hearing the merch announcement.
I've been secretly waiting for this to happen.
I'm so stoked. I ordered a pop uplosion Do It

(01:11:57):
with Gusto and an up wall shirt.Thank you for getting all three
of them. We appreciate you, we appreciate
you. Different colors and one extra
large for hopefully a nice big shirt for hitting the gym.
To say the least, I think they're all dope.
Thank you so much, truly a random fact about myself in One
Piece. I have fully watched the show
once so I'm completely caught upbut I started 2 separate re

(01:12:20):
watches of the anime where on both occasions made it back to
and about halfway through Thriller Bark I was thinking it
may be time to give the podcast its first re listen.
Does that make me more or less wild than Brendan?
Keep up the great work lads, love the podcast.
Best regards Panda pools. PS What are y'all wearing?
I'm just incredible briefs. I I am wearing a black tank top

(01:12:43):
and a pair of gym shorts becauseI have not taken a shower since
the gym. That is my fault.
I am also in boxes and tank top.However, I will add that today I
wore my soft cream colored upwall logo shirt to the office
and I felt pretty pretty proud about it.

(01:13:04):
I don't think anyone saw it because I had to change it to my
scrubs the second I got through the door.
Well. But there was opportunity.
But there was opportunity. And you know what?
Honestly, you, you still made the commitment.
You were in public wearing our merch, and isn't that all that
really matters? Also also there's a hanger in
the in the common area when I want to call it bar cubbies and
I took my shirt, put it on the hanger and I left it out in

(01:13:27):
front for people to see when they went to the bathroom.
I guess you were advertising on you.
I get my best. OK OK.
Also I want to answer Panda Pools's question.
No it does not make you crazier than me because I have done more
re watches than you. And also I guess I have a re
listen to our podcast though at least not in full.

(01:13:48):
I've re listened to select episodes.
I tried to start from the beginning.
At one point in time I got to Alabasta and then I I think I
fell off the wagon. I remember.
Try to except I got like the first episode.
I was like, no, I can't do this.Where does it?
Where does Geordie Wright? Skip to 130 Whatever in
Alabaster for good mic quality. Yeah, I'll start there.
I I remember I got to whatever the episode was where the dung

(01:14:11):
beetle is rolling dung up a hilland we gave it to the damn dung.
That's the golden hand. I was in that episode last and
then I don't know what I was doing at the time.
I think I just got, I got distracted and started doing
something else, so I turned off the podcast for some reason.
Yep, that happened. That did happen.
It was in Alabasta. Yeah, I believe that.

(01:14:34):
I do believe that wholeheartedly.
So I've done like a like a 25% re listen.
So, you know, in a way, in a wayI'm a little I'm, I'm sort of
there, kind of maybe I should. Continue, animals.
That's all that matters. What was the other question?
Oh, we are we already talking about what we're wearing?
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I will.
Producer shout outs. Yes, thank you for the fan mail,

(01:14:55):
Panda Pools, meanwhile, moving on to producer shout outs.
It's Taco, admits me. Rabbit again, we love you and
your movies are coming. We we did.
I believe I can even tell you we've done, we've done across
the universe and. Came out this week.
And I believe also Brazil is coming out soon, if not next

(01:15:15):
week. Or her before it was.
Released yeah, no, we it's it was it was a lot of fun and
they're they are coming. We look forward to next month's
issues. Should you maintain being
producers. We love you.
Moving on to the garb Gab Johnny, I think you guys should
handle this one. Well, Chris is not here and he's
a sacred keeper, but I always keep the emergency grab bag for

(01:15:35):
such a case. You get a grab bag.
I'm not allowed to do it. Well either way I think I think
you should you 2 should handle this.
What? Hello.
I I get a grab bag for for such an occasion you're like.
No, I'm just saying you got you,Mr. Classic OG grab bag enjoyer.
Come on, get your hand in there.But what about Devin?

(01:15:56):
What is he going to? He's just.
Are you saying that Devin isn't good enough to play your?
Hand in the bag, but the hand inthe bag.
Fuck sakes. Jesus fine.
Oh my God. I have the grab bag.
That's the garb, Gab. Wait, what?
Why? Hold on, quiet you for a SEC,
Devin. Justin, did you put a bunch of
snakes in the bag this week? Listen, it's a it's a tribute to

(01:16:18):
Kobe, bro. Black Mamba all day.
Black Mamba. It's a tribute to Kobe, yeah.
RP Mamba and Kobe Not not not one piece Kobe Kobe like Kobe
Bryant, Kobe. Was he?
Was he bit by a snake? They said he had venom.
That was like his name, Black Mamba.
OK, I'm not, I'm not putting my hand back in the bag.
I I'm not grabbing a snake out of the bag.
That's just the. Venom's already going into your

(01:16:39):
system, so. No, I wasn't bit.
I want to let the record show I was not bit.
You, you. No, no, no, no, no.
They did not bite me, but I felt.
That I don't know man, it looks like I see 2 little bite marks
right there on your wrist. Nope.
You are seeing things. There is no oh fuck yeah.
No, they bit me. Yeah.
Fucking hell. Told you well.
More deadly, this is King Cobra.This is why I don't want to.
This is why I don't do things when it's you 2.

(01:17:00):
Because when it's you two peopleget hurt, people, people get
harmed. All right, anyway, let me go
pick up this thing. Hey buddy, good buddy, come it
clear. It's such a sweetheart.
There you go. You know, funny thing about
Black Mamba is they have really intricate scale patterns, and
Brian's scale pattern here spells out Career Day.
That that's cool. Is this actually a true
statement? Out of curiosity, is that a true

(01:17:23):
fun fact? What are you?
What are you, freaking PBS? Yeah, what are out here?
Check me, I'm asking what do youmean?
I'm just asking a simple question.
Defunded idiot. OK, well, you know fine.
What did you say was it was it was career day?
What am I doing now? Career day and it's the
smoothies for the juice. Juice.

(01:17:44):
Fruit. Juice Boy, your favorite fruit?
Juicy Fruit. Juicy Fruit.
You know what I'm going to say for Career day?
Who gets this fruit? Justin does, because he's juice
boy. Juice boy.
Go art school. Hell yeah.
Never forget that juice boy. Go go art school now he's got
what he. Means I'm proposing juice Boy
becomes a mixologist. I mad at said that he's becoming

(01:18:05):
a bartender. Juice Boy become bartender.
So, So what I'm imagining for for this fruit as a as a, as a
job, is there there's a way to sustainably make product, right?
So yes. So if we, if we follow the
show's logic, what did smoothie juice, what animal was it?
Was it a giraffe? It was a giraffe, yes.

(01:18:26):
OK, OK, so I want to believe there is an ethical way to juice
a giraffe and therefore mass produce Kieran beer and, and you
know, you, you cut down the production cost, you're not
cutting barley and, and, and other vegetation or, you know,
you're not wasting water to growalong.
I just want to ask quickly you, you said you want to believe
that there is an ethical way. So that's like cool, but that's

(01:18:49):
like how you you can believe what you want.
Like you, you can believe whatever it is you want.
That doesn't mean. That's a thicken easy.
What is? For let's if we know cows and
always got a problem with it, I think juicing a giraffe is fine.
But this power requires you to ring the giraffe.

(01:19:13):
And I'm going to assume that this is a painless process.
You are going to like I said. You can assume the characters on
the show moan as they get it's. We have reason to believe that
when they're juiced, they do moan a bit so.
Maybe it's about like the the amount of force you apply.
Maybe if you just go real gentleit's fine.

(01:19:34):
You know, I'm not saying that you're helping Copia.
Grip. All I'm all I am declaring is
that your concern originally wasabout what's ethical.
I you can believe whatever you want to be ethical technically,
but if you go this route just no, I'm putting you in the

(01:19:57):
capitalist bin. See this this would be like I I
wish I knew ODA I need, I need more information about the
juicing the I need. I need more info about the juice
of each thing in person. All right, like if I juice
cement brick, do I do I get likepomegranate juice?

(01:20:17):
Yeah, I think, I think you get, you know how they have
pomegranate juice? It's granite juice.
Wait, hold on. He's cooking now.
He's cooking. Maybe.
Maybe. We can't juice a giraffe
ethically. All right, let's let's just say
that's the that's the case here.You, you just went right back to
the same idea. I'm I'm just waiting to clean
circle you're the. Best way I can, OK, like you

(01:20:40):
call me a capitalist and I can'tstand for that.
So like, you know, maybe juicingbricks is the better form here.
You know, we juice bricks. We make, we make juice like only
juice. Capitalistic idea for the juice
juice for go huh Justin I'm surprised you didn't come up
with this you work in it the pharmaceutical companies hello
imagine being able to get the essence of like you know like

(01:21:01):
whatever healing herbs you need and being able to just.
That would be a pretty nifty ability for something like the
Pharmaceutical industry. Like half the time the reason
why they do animal studies like having a pangolin fucking bad or
something like that is because they're trying to figure out a
new drug like Ozempic. Like what if you just one of
them and you get all the stuff you need?

(01:21:24):
I think you like your proposal. What are we juicing in this?
Hold on, hold on. See, barbaceuticals are made of
various amounts of plants and minerals that are carefully
balanced and chemically combined.
What he's proposing is like, instead of, you know, making
hemp juice the traditional way, you take the hemp plant, squeeze

(01:21:48):
it for the juice. But then you do that with all
kinds of things that you wouldn't normally be able to
make juice out of. Like you could you could juice a
rock. You could juice the rock.
Granite juice, so to speak. I I.
Like iron? Taste like like well if you can
get like an iron supplement in juice form.
Dude, OK, OK, I I see here you're going with this.
OK, now. See, now you see the vision.

(01:22:09):
Now you see your. Mercury and then you could
poison everyone. I mean well.
How do you juice something that's already juice?
Exactly. I don't think you juice.
Take oranges and I juice them even more.
I think I think you can only juice something that is in a
solid-state. I think that needs.
To be oranges or a solid change my mind.

(01:22:29):
Yes, you can definitely juice something that already produces
juice, that I can agree with, but I think you just make juice
you. Double juice.
Juice. Don't think it.
Makes a different juice. Maybe you can juice the Rhine
and it makes like a slightly different Rhine juice, but if
you just juice the orange I think all you do is get orange
juice. We don't know there is

(01:22:54):
potential. Oh my God, here we fuck.
Reality with this kind. Of we're really awesome on the
on the on the cusp of cutting edge technology here that we
just couldn't can't possibly imagine everything, everything.
Juicing a black. Hole.
Meanwhile, all all this to say, yeah, I'm making them a
bartender for sure. They go, they, they go here.

(01:23:16):
Do you want, you want your, yourvodka, vodka soda or whatever.
And then they'll be like, oh, wait, I ran out of, I ran out of
soda. And they just have a plastic
bottle and they're like, not to worry, I'll make you some extra.
I'll make you. Soda bottle soda.
Like when you when you chug yourcoke can but you just you really
want the last couple of trucks Iheard.

(01:23:38):
Hey kids, I heard you like microplastics in your drinks.
What if I told you I can juice it up for you?
Listen. Listen.
We don't know the limit. We don't know, trying to help.
People, you're just like, ah, fucking eat plastic.
No, we also have like, you know,like normal things, like we
would have like celery on standby.

(01:23:59):
We can juice some celery and throw that in a Bloody Mary or
something like that. Celery is just water.
Say that again. Celery is just water, right?
Celery juice is just water. Green it.
Doesn't have to be celery. I'm just saying like you get a
bunch of random ingredients or rocks if you want.
You make your rock juice. I don't, I don't care.
You mix it with a bunch of alcohol.
You can have all kinds of drinksthat only you.

(01:24:19):
That's a lovely. IPhone there.
What if we just juiced it? What if we juiced it?
Thank you. You get it.
Make a YouTube channel, will it juice?
OK, well you could also make this person a YouTube and that
would probably take off like wildfire.
It's like popper videos or like the the blending ones or yeah

(01:24:39):
it's just instead their thing isjuicing.
This week I'm gonna juice my cell phone and then drink it and
see how it tastes. You know, it's like, I gotta
know it tastes like 4. G.
Going back to the juicing rock thing, I I'm now thinking so, So
we have, you know, in our supermarkets, we have clinical
conventional products that are not organic, non-GMO, etcetera.

(01:25:03):
Then we have the organic stuff, right?
If let's say we can make orange juice from squeezing coal,
right? Let's just say that for, for the
example's sake here. Is that a new source?
Like like am I allowed to call my coal sourced orange juice
like organic like coca? Cola.
Dude, are you trying to create anew whole?

(01:25:24):
Juice if the cold juice gets to be called organic.
Yeah, or like we need to create a new category for for such an
alternative source. I guess I don't really know what
defines organic. I I bet you could you could
probably like toe with a lion and be like, this is organic
cold juice. If I drink Justin as a juice, is

(01:25:47):
that cannibalism? You know.
This is a great question. This is a great question.
I. I don't.
Know, I think no, I'm gonna say.Lean toward no either as well.
Excuse. Me, I think if you OK, let me
ask you this. If you drink, if if you were to
drink or taste somebody's blood,is that cannibalism?
Yes. That's cannibalism.

(01:26:09):
You're just you're you're, you're like a few degrees off,
but you're not. What cannibalism is but.
That's what that's what I'm saying.
That's how cannibalism, it's vampirism as a whole.
It has a whole separate name. Vampirism is a based off of
cannibalism. Oh no.
I think it's a a couple degree, like it's all the way to
cannibalism. You had to cross cannibalism to
get to vampirism somebody. That drinks human juice.

(01:26:30):
Is it's vampirism considered cannibalism?
This is this is stupid. Depending on its definition,
vampires consider it a form of cannibalism.
Since they consume, you have. Blood, brother, it's just you
and me right now, OK? Don't don't talk to the Google
machine. It's you and me.

(01:26:52):
We have cannibalism. We have vampirism.
When are you sitting on the table?
Correct. So this is what I'm putting on
the. Table.
Make her a vampire. She's a vampire.
I kind of feel like might be, but I think it's its own name,
it's got it's, it gets its own thing.
Like there's, there's a few degrees away where it's
significantly different, you know?
It's that, but more importantly,you have cannibalism.

(01:27:13):
That is a very strict definition.
You have vampirism, very strict definition.
You consume the juice of people that gets.
It's a. Big pervert.
Y'all are not seeing my vision and it's it's it's making.
Me angry how about you Brandon II I think cannibalism like so so
like if we have juicer people wethen the next step forward is

(01:27:35):
vampirism and then the next stepafter that is cannibalism all
right you. We, we, it's, it's juicism.
Or something. Juicism is on the path to to
cannibalism. It's a very, very, very big.
Juicing your homies is A1 slippery slope to cannibalism.
I wouldn't say slippery slopes. I don't think we're that close
yet. I would say it's like the the
the gateway drug. Do you?

(01:27:56):
Definitely think yes, it is definitely the gateway drug
we've got like like juicing people is like marijuana to
cocaine, which is vampirism to straight up heroin, which is
cannibalism for sure. Like this is the track.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, what are we doing again?
It really sucks that this awkward long pause is going to

(01:28:18):
get cut out. Listeners, you know how long
that that pause lasted for? But it was it was a bit of a
doozy. It was dense.
It was dense. You could.
You could. Taste it, you could use it.
You could use it. You know what sucks is that I

(01:28:39):
thought the exact same thing butyou BB to it.
Observation Hockey. You your ping was a little bit
faster than mine. Oh man, that's good.
That's. Really good.
We we juiced. We juiced the career.
Juiced this one for all she's worth getting.

(01:29:00):
Time to juice the rest of this podcast of follow us on
Instagram and Twitter at Panda Sightings.
You can send us emails at pandasightings@gmail.com.
And if you want to financially juice us, you could, you know,
go into our Discord page and find our little links and stuff
for, you know, shirts and things, you know, let us juice
you, you juice us, you know, it,it it.

(01:29:23):
It'll be closing very soon if ithasn't already though, to be
fair. Unfortunately, I forgot to
mention that part. Well, it's, it's a limited run.
We're going to do it again, at least, you know.
L plus word shield plus juice this juice this juice this for
rumbe. Anyway, Speaking of the merch,

(01:29:49):
hopefully by the time you hear this you had a chance to grab
it. If not, you know we definitely
have plans to do something similar, if not the same in the
future. This is definitely a trial test
run of sorts, lots of data to collect in and and analyze and
we will probably attempt to reach out to as many people as
we can in terms of getting feedback about it and things
like that. But have you said that I, you

(01:30:12):
know, this, this is really like poorly timed given that some
people may not be able to like get this news I'm going to share
and then like do anything meaningful with it.
So a couple weeks ago I said that, you know, there's a rule
when you buy the OPWA logo shirt, you have to get in soft
cream. It's just the objectively
correct color choice. And, and So what I'm here to say
is there are now two other rules.

(01:30:33):
If you buy the Gusto shirt, it has to be in Navy blue.
It just makes sense. It's aquatic themed.
There's a fish on it. It's got to be blue, bro.
Also, I think it looks the best.That's the one I got and then
this one's, this one's stuck up on me.
If you buy a Panda view shirt, which has a fantastic creative
design and graphic on it, I willbe here and say that I think you

(01:30:53):
need to get into pink. It is surprisingly the best
option in my mind. It really like bro, real guys
wear pink. All right, Everyone loves pink.
We wear pink on Tuesdays and Wednesdays.
I wear pink all the time. Bro I'm pink like as a skin tone
90% of the time so like it just it.
It matches so well. I will I will say not not to ran
on your parade. I got all of those things in
black. Brother, come on, you gotta do

(01:31:15):
better. I mean.
You are a grown adult man. You need to throw some color in
your wardrobe, my friend. I'd have plenty of color, don't
get me wrong, I've seen those. Dresses.
Apparently so. All right, anyway, I got to get
tickets to Pierce The Veil, apparently.
Yeah, yeah, you go do that. I got to go get the rats out of
the neighboring, you know, areas.

(01:31:36):
So yeah. Yeah, and I, I got to eat
dinner.
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