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July 10, 2025 72 mins

At the Levely, Neptune defends Shirahoshi from Charlos, while Mjosgard’s aid brings hope. As Big Mom and Kaidou plot Luffy’s downfall, Sabo seeks Kuma’s freedom. Shadows deepen under Imu’s gaze, setting the world on a knife’s edge between peace and all-out war.


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(00:00):
Are you ready? As ready as it can be.
Play that track. Play the song.
Yeah, come on, this is the easiest.
Layup of your life. You think about it.
Think about it for more than 5 seconds.
All I'm thinking about is the cowboy B pop song I'm gonna
need, I'm gonna need some more clarity.
Just the. Two of us we.

(00:23):
Can make it if we. Try just the two of.
Us. There you go.
That's that track, brother. Incredible.
Keep that beat going. Do it again.
Do it again for me. Give me a little.
Bit of the two of us, we can make it if we try.
Just the two of us. Just.

(00:44):
The two of us. I don't actually know the words
of this song, just the two parts.
That I know too, to be honest with you.
Well, listeners, if you haven't guessed already, it is it is a

(01:05):
two man show tonight and wouldn't you know it, it's it's
a two man show with the two people who know everything about
the series. During a time in the series
where our input just really wouldn't be valuable on on this

(01:26):
episode, unfortunately. Yeah, this is a tough one.
This, this, this is going to be a tough one.
I hope you guys like recounting events because that's that's
going to be a lot of this. This, this is, this is what I'm
going to say. First of all, we should get, we
should get on with the summary. Justin, do you have a
preference? Would you like to do it?
You want me to do it? I don't know, I I read it
already to like capture my own voice, but then right, you

(01:49):
always have a good reading voiceand you got like good energy.
So like, honestly, it's a coin flip for me.
Tell, tell me what you want, brother.
It's it's just the two of us. You got to make it.
I got a nickel flipping it. We're flipping a nickel.
I pick a side she sensor tails. I I choose tails.
Cool, great. And it's sales?
Incredible. So that means it is me.

(02:11):
Yes. Fantastic.
All right, I have not read this,so this should be good. 886 to
889. The reverie is finally upon us.
No, but for real this time. 50 leaders of the 170 total
countries comprising the World Government gather to engage in
political discourse. What's the worst that can
happen? Well, I'm not really sure, but

(02:32):
I'm willing to bet it would be abunch of countries getting into
petty squabbles that then escalate into global war.
But we're not there yet. Hopefully what we have have
instead is Celestial Dragons flexing their muscle by trying
to enslave Shira Hoshi, reminding everyone how things
work around here, the whole Kumasituation, and a whole new

(02:53):
Shadow Boss who rules from the center of the world literally
beside the besides the current state of affairs resembling a
giant powder keg with a flame flame fruit eerily nearby, we
also have Big Mom DM ING Kaido on Snail Chat TM.
She calls Kaido, warning him of Luffy's arrival as well as her
own since she has a score to settle.

(03:15):
Kaido standoffishly tells her not to bother coming over since
he has his own more Righteous Vendetta to settle.
The Navy just so happens to be wiretapping this whole
conversation and many of them are over what to do if multiple
warlord come to blows in the land of Wano.
It is not warlords, it is emperors.
Just so we're clear. God damn.

(03:37):
It was like, okay Yoko, I know what a Yoko is and I was like,
how do I translate Yoko? Because people hate Japanese
warlords. Sure wanna.
Anyway, the last sentence, I don't know about you guys, but
the goosebumps over this whole situation and I can't tell if
the adrenaline rush I'm feeling is 1 of excitement or a flight
response. Same brother, absolutely same.
So all right, so let's let's let's nip a couple of things in

(04:01):
the bud to start with #1 filler.Yomi Piece continues in this set
of episodes as it has for the last 8.
Unfortunately, it it's an unfortunate situation.
We get a little bit of context, but we basically like rewatch
the whole main series up and up at this point in the last.

(04:22):
We got a lot of Odie and then and then we got basically all of
post time skip up until now. Yeah, you know, it was, it was
really funny when we were also recapping Whole Cake Island like
mid flashback and I'm like, all right, listen, guys, brothers,
sisters, my people, non binary pals.

(04:43):
What are we what are we doing? We, we just left Whole Cake Guy.
You know, this is my hot take and you know what, Devin and
Christian are here. So I get to, I get to say this
and without receiving any judgment.
I think recap is fine in a vacuum.
I really do. And I think I've had this, this
take in the past. Recap can be good to
reinvigorate, reenergize, and reintroduce plot elements to

(05:09):
your audience. Even better when it
recontextualizes it with new information.
Exactly. Honestly Justin, thank you for
saying one of the main buzzwordsthat I totally forgot to use.
Recontextualizing information that we once had that is now
even more relevant or expanded on in the present than it was
back then. Love that.

(05:30):
Big fan. Now the other caveat, the other
caveat is when you very blatantly just play shit to buff
your time, which very much also happened in tandem with the
first thing I said, that makes it more palatable.

(05:51):
So there was, I'm going to say Iain't going to lie to you.
I think like 30% of this week's episodes was like new content.
Yeah, yeah, maybe 4. Possibly the worst part about it
is that we've already watched what, 6-8 episodes, give or
take, of similarly formatted episodes of Here's some small

(06:15):
meat on the bone and then there's a bunch of fluff.
Yeah, I think the worst part of it is that we're revisiting the
fluff we already saw no more than 8 episodes ago.
Like, I love Sabbath and I love the Paramount War.
Why am I watching that again, potentially twice in the same
week? Yes, I I'm pretty sure in the
1st 4 episodes it it it was fucking the the fleet, the

(06:39):
former fleet Admiral Sengoku waslike talking about the summit
war and we're like OK, we're going to relive fucking you know
the the paramount war, which is fine.
And then we re revisited that exact same war with Kuma in this
set of episodes, which again I'mlike OK with but but like that
was a lot ice. And then we revisited with garb

(07:03):
and then we might have also maybe revisited it or I guess
it's part of Kuma. But like, you know, Sabo and I'm
just here like, what are we doing?
I understand you want to do these honestly, I'm just venting
right now. This is just me honestly ODA,
you've already gotten plenty of money off of me on this
franchise. You've gotten plenty of viewing
hours toy. So I get to say this without

(07:23):
feeling this, without even an ounce of regret.
I think it makes a lot of sense to reintroduce characters, or
rather give you the context for the characters that you are
reintroducing. But like, brother, we, we, we
didn't forget Garp, we didn't forget most of what happened
with Kuma, like at all. We definitely didn't need the

(07:45):
the 5 minutes devoted to Luffy and Law talking about how
they're going after Kaido. Not even talking about the fact
that the only reason that that is a relevant flashback is
because Kaido has been gotten upuntil this point in time by the
Straw Hat alliance. I'm just like, oh golly, dude,
buck me. All right.
Anyway, that's, that's, that's my two cents.

(08:07):
These 12 episodes, more than I think any other part in this
franchise, have a very aggressive, aggressive recap
period that I think is a little unwarranted.
I I ain't stupid. And, and I'll say it, this is
possibly the best week of like content, in my agreement at

(08:28):
least. All right, so let's let's go
over a few things. All right, so number one, let
we'll, we'll start with I think the the first big rock shake is
Big mom explaining to Kaido overover snail chat.
Not completely undisclosed, by the way, did no, no discretion
whatsoever. The the the government knows all

(08:49):
about this shit. Now Big Mom calls Kaido and and,
and she's like, Hey, you know who this is?
And then Kaido's like I do, I wish I didn't, but I do.
Big Mom's like, yo, I'm coming to Wano to kill Straw Hat Luffy.
And then Kaido's like the fuck you are actually, because I
already want to kill that guy. You don't need to worry about,
you don't need to worry about fucking Straw in that boy's

(09:11):
head. And then Big Moms like, no, no,
no, you don't understand. I'm coming whether you like it
or not. We should just be friends like
like the good old days. It's no further expansion.
Just like the we we're just leftwith like the good old days.
She she just said that he owes her a favor and he's like, he
doesn't say for what, but he's just like, man, I already repaid

(09:32):
that thing or whatever the case was.
And she's like, no, no, no, that's a lifelong debt, buddy,
whatever it is. Can I, can I tell you, you know,
Justin, I feel like this is where I'm going to start to have
fun on my own podcast as I'm. Allowed to do because it is my
podcast. Or our podcast Communism I

(09:55):
obviously we know we we know what Big Mom's talking about.
We're not. Even know.
We we know, we know. So what I'm going to do at this
present moment in time is I am going to purposely tell you the
Straw Hat theory that I had backin the day, perfect when I first
read this stuff and I was like, the fuck?

(10:19):
Obviously easy low hanging fruitBig bomb saved Kaido at some
past moment in time. But even like looking at it now
I'm like I'm looking at them both and I'm like I can't tell
which one of you 2 is the biggerdinosaur.
Honestly that's not even a joke.Like, Big Mom is obviously like
an old woman. So, like, you look at Kaido.

(10:39):
He's just like a really muscularman with a lot of crows lines in
his forehead. You know what I'm saying?
Yeah. Like, I, if you told me that
Kaido was like, secretly 300 years old, I'd honestly believe
you. I, I, I, I wouldn't, I wouldn't
even fucking blink. So I think, I think a, a more
fun one is a theory that I really used to like back in the

(11:02):
day was that Kaido was A and, and this is this, I'm going to
say this not knowing anything about Kaido.
I'm from the perspective of somebody who was who knows
nothing about Kaido. This may or may not be true in
the future. I really liked the theory back
in the day where somebody said that Kaido was ponoglyph brought
to life by a devil. Fruit.

(11:23):
Why? Why?
Yeah, yes, yes, I. Think I've ever heard of this
one? I loved this theory when I was
first, when I was reading week to week.
I, I don't know what it was, butthe sheer outrageousness of it

(11:44):
was like, that's that's solid. I'm in, I'm invested.
But by my theory was whatever Big Mom owed Kaido.
I think Kaido was a very old rock until he gained his
sentience through Big Mom. And then when the Rock was like,

(12:08):
hey, lady, I need, I need more than what you're giving me.
I want, I want to be a big baddie.
Then Big Mom was like, no problem, fam.
I'll find you a Devil fruit thatlets you become man and then you
can become man and be an asshole.
And then he was like, bet. And that's how we got here.
That's the situation we're in. That's incredible.
That is, that is my that is my horrible theory.

(12:32):
Not horrible. It could happen.
You don't know. You don't know anything.
I I do what I want here anyway. I'm going to say it I love this
theory because it supports an agenda I have for the future.
So I'm about to this all stocks in.
Well, what? What's your theory?
What do you mean? I can't tell you my agenda for
the future because spoilers I. Think I know what you're talking

(12:54):
about, but how does it buy you stocks in that theory I.
I don't think I know how to answer your question even
vaguely without just being explicit in any capacity.
OK, fair. Like I, I'm thinking about how
to skirt around this and I don'tthink I can.
I, I think it's a straight line.It's, it's really like a
cul-de-sac. It's either I'm pulling up or
I'm just circling back out there.

(13:14):
It's only one or two. Things, yeah, you're, you're,
you're a, you're a pilot on the airplane and you're just like,
listen, if you want me to dive, I'll dive, but if you otherwise,
I'm maintaining cruising altitude.
I don't think I had any theories, or if I did, I could
not tell you what they were fromlike 4 years ago or five.

(13:35):
I'll tell you what I thought about and like earlier today
that like, you know, I was like,I wonder what that thing is.
And that theory was that she sethim up for success.
My brain said like, oh, she gavehim one of in hindsight, that
sounds kind of stupid, but I, I think there's, I think there's
the plausibility of like, you know, since they were friends or

(13:58):
whatever. And I get the vibe that like Big
Mom is kind of like little broing him a little bit.
I don't know, maybe a little broing, maybe it's not like that
explicit, but like, I don't know, big mom just talks to
Kaido in a way where like just someone like your senpai or like
your elder would talk to you, even though like you're you the
the quote UN quote little guy are like actual hot shit.

(14:20):
Now someone still like talks to you like you're 5.
It's got on the bike. So I'm thinking like, man, maybe
she like trained him or or something like that.
So that that that's kind of the gist I was going for when I
thought about it very quickly. Here's here's a better idea that
I just had. What it what if he's the father
of some of her kids and she didn't ask for, you know, the,

(14:43):
the, the money for, for raising them And that's the favor.
He's like, hey listen, you have 5 kids and I never once asked
you for alimony, child support. There we go.
That's right. Child support, that's the one.
That's the one I'm thinking of. That's the favor you owe me like
70. 70 years of back pay in child support.

(15:04):
You owe me at least 40 years of child support over like five
children. Do you have any idea how much
you fucking owe me at this point?
You're going to let me come to your island now?
Hey, but you killed that one kid.
Yeah, well, he lived to be at least 20.
Yeah, he did leave. He did live to be at least 20.
I think it was even 30. Are you talking about?

(15:25):
Oh, you know, he's totally fine by the way.
He he was in, I mean. OK see my problem was I was
making a joke, but it sounded a parallel too much to reality so
it was no longer a joke, it justsounded like I was spreading
misinformation. Sorry, I just want to let the
record show I I thought you weretalking about Scott.
Allegedly. Guy was alive and well.

(15:46):
He's doing fine. He is very much not dead at any
capacity. He he was in episodes that we
watched, as you know, just just another guy, just another dude
tailing the straw hats at the time.
Oh jeez, what a fucking guy. But you know, beyond, beyond
Kaido and Big Mom, apparently. So I, I would ask the question

(16:10):
how this plays out, but you know, I think a better route to
go here is Justin, do you think Big Mom is going to wanna or do
you think that she is just goingto cut the Straw Hats off at
sea? Uh, or do you feel uncomfortable
playing this game with me? The second one.

(16:33):
OK, I'm gonna say you feel uncomfortable playing this game
with me. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I respect that. I respect.
That I think the better questionis what the fuck are the Navy
gonna do? Also, before we answer that
question, shout out to Vice Admiral Gion.
Gion, whatever her name is. GION.
Sure, I love her. She kind of looks like the love

(16:54):
child of like Smoker and Sashigi.
But I don't care, she looks great.
I love her. I mean, is there is there
something about her that you love like specifically or?
Her face, also her code name, which I didn't piece together
and so I looked it up because because they introduced her as
Vice Admiral Guillaume and then have a name of parentheses.
Don't know what service or excuse me, what purpose that

(17:14):
serves, but I forgot the actual word.
But what it translates into is Pink Rabbit.
Yeah, exactly. So do you?
You know what this is, right? You know, I was looking at the
list of the Admiral, Vice Admiral, excuse me?
And I was like, because I was, Iwas looking through Gion's page

(17:36):
or whatever and it was like, oh name pink rabbit fits the animal
theme. And I'm like, what animal theme?
And I'm like, OK, I know some ofthe vice Admirals have like
animal aesthetics or motifs, butI don't see it in all of them.
So I'm like, is this what this? Is well, I'm, I'm just going to
help you. I think so.

(17:57):
As you are aware, several Admirals are named after like a
what do you call an animal colored animal, but more
specifically the Chinese Zodiac plus a color, right.
So these two, in fact, are namedafter two more animals and then

(18:17):
they're just going to color. So we have Momo Usagi.
I don't know how to fucking SO. That's going to be Pink Rabbit
because Momo is pink. That is indeed pink rabbit.
And then Chetan, otherwise knownas Tokikake, is brown pig in
fact. So in the event I I think this

(18:39):
is like the bit that they're trying to pitch in the event
that we didn't already have Ryokugu, otherwise known as
Green Bowl, and Fuji Tora, otherwise known as Purple Tiger.
These two would be like in line for Admiral C Yeah, It's like
the vibe. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But that's just that's just me, you know it it or or saying or

(19:02):
explaining my my understanding of the.
That makes sense because otherwise what's the point?
I could believe Keon has potential to to grow into a an
Admiral. This other guy looks like he's
on his way to retirement. I don't know what what they're
on about with this guy. He do he do look a little old.
He you know, you know, another fun thing too.
In the dub they give him like like a really old, like, what do

(19:24):
you call it Southern accent? He's he's always talking with a
drawl and I really like it. I like it a lot actually.
My man's just trying to if my man's looking forward to
retirement, so he could just siton a porch and just sit in his
rocking chair, chill vibe. I respect it honestly.
But but in that scene, we, we, we learn of, of, of, well, we

(19:47):
don't learn. I guess we, we just kind of like
hang out with Garp as he, as he talks with a bunch of different
people, vice Admirals and captains alike, as he's like,
they're talking about, Oh yeah, the rocks, the rocks, pirates,
blah, blah, blah. And then I'm like, oh, oh, new
content that we can't even talk about because we're Christian
and Devin aren't here. Bridget.
I don't think they said the second word.
Any word on this? I was rocks but like the house

(20:09):
was spelled the wrong. At least my subtitles spelled
the wrong so like I don't know what's happening here.
Scam. Listeners didn't hear that.
Don't worry about it. They don't know nothing.
Good, great, beautiful. Nobody knows anything honestly.
On a completely hopefully unrealated tangent, so allegedly
Big Mom and Kaido were friends and I don't know if I could say
that Shanks and Blackbeard were friends.

(20:30):
They were definitely crewmates. We know I'm a liar, What am I
talking about? I'm thinking I confuse Shanks
with freaking Ace. I never went out some an idiot.
All right? My, my, I was going to make a
parallel of like, whoa. The Yonkos used to be friends,
you know, they have Big Mom and Kaido and then they have Shanks
and Blackbeard. Man, this is a rough set of
episodes not to have the new guys, huh?
You have to you know, you know what's what's really hard?

(20:52):
We have to both like we, we can't go too deep into details,
but we like also got to. Give you something to listen to,
no? No, no, I was going to say we
also have to know what we're talking about enough to not
sound stupid without using more recent contacts.
Yeah, yeah, it's a. It's a real problem, this is.

(21:13):
I'm big dumb. I'm big dumb.
I really, I really mentally replace Shanks with or Ace with
Shanks. I was like, well, the Elkos are
friends with each other. That's crazy.
And I guess you could say. Be like that, brother.
Luffy and Shanks are friends andLuffy's the 5th emperor now, so
maybe I'm not totally wrong. So I don't know.
I don't know man. Luffy do be the 5th emperor.
Maybe, maybe I'm just pulling onnothing, but I thought it was

(21:35):
like cool parallel. The yonkos were at least paired
up at some point in their life. What does that mean?
I like the low hanging fruit that you're choosing to go with.
You know, Justin, I know, I know.
You want, you want to talk even more, don't you?
You want to, you want to just fucking just blurt it out?

(21:55):
Say it. We haven't done a spoiler cast
in quite some time. I think it I'd argue it's maybe
been a year if not close to 1. I think you're right.
I think it's been a minute sincea spoiler cast.
Did we do 1? I don't think we did one at the
end of the most recent arc in the manga.
Well, not not the current arc, but the arc that came before it.
We lightly we talked about the very beginning of that arc,

(22:16):
whenever the last one we did. And then we so much time has
passed that that arc at that time has now concluded.
And from what the world tells meor what I'm hearing, the current
arc in the manga in 2025 is on its way to ending, or at least
halfway. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
There's a lot of content. I haven't read some of it, and
by some I mean a lot of it, actually.
Yeah, you have a lot to catch meup.

(22:36):
On I was gonna say I didn't evenknow you were current, but it
doesn't sound like you. I haven't read since like
September of 2034. Give it to.
Him well. It'd be.
That's a lot of stuff I'm missing.
It do be like that. But OK, All right, So, you know,
moving on from, you know, Big Mom Kaido, it sounds like
they're they're shaking things up in their own way.
Maybe shame themselves? Not sure what to do.
We'll we'll see what happens next.

(22:56):
We're not entirely sure because you know, what would be really
cool is if they just, like, tookeach other out.
Imagine though. Nah bro they were besties they
can't they They have the love hate relationship.
Have you on the love though? Brother, out of everyone that
has been a friend to another character in this franchise, if
you told me that Big Mom and Kaida would be the ones to be

(23:16):
like you are my friend but I also am choosing to kill you,
I'd believe it. They'd like they'd be the two I
would believe. Let's let's be so fucking.
I believe in, in, in the, in the, the good in people, all
right. I believe in their better selves
to over to to come out on top. Can I also say Big mom ain't no

(23:37):
way she's making her way to wanothe the this story can't handle
having 2 fucking emperors in thesame fucking shit.
I wouldn't. Know what the other two would
say, particularly Christian. Christian was like Nah, but
we're not seeing Big Mom for at least after Wano and then Big
Mom suddenly he's in. Hey, I think he's right.
I think he's absolutely right. There's no fucking way that we
bring 2 emperors into the forefront.
Like that's just like way too much shit to handle.

(23:59):
What are we going to do? What are we doing here?
You. Know I was going to say Luffy
beat one but that's also not true.
That is not true. That's very much not true.
That did not happen. You beat.
Katakuri also don't have to beatKaido.
You know what if we just do a Whole Cake island, go to Wano to

(24:20):
do bra, I don't really remember what, and then you.
Can't be serious. Are you saying that we're going
to do another like almost like just like side beat adjacent and
Emperor? And we, we, we, we're going to
be. A time skip, Like what are we
doing here? What's the end game?
Maybe I must. I'm not opposed to a second time
skip. I'm just saying we're going to
rope to Wano. Luffy's going to fight a

(24:42):
Katakuri level guy, probably have a definitive victory, but
still skating by. He looks like Kaido and he's
like, I'm gonna see you later actually and we'll get another
two year kind of time skip. Wow, you you, you think that's
how this plays out, huh? Absolutely.
Wow, I, I, I, I couldn't disagree more, honestly.
Ain't no shot. Ain't no shot in in the

(25:03):
slightest but but you know, moving back to to to the reverie
because the reverie is happeningin all this.
You know what I am also sad about Christian, who I think
actually really appreciated Queen Otohime's story.
He. Did.
Not get the cathartic response of this setup episodes where we

(25:27):
get reintroduced to none other than Mio's guard, the celestial
dragon from the flashback that, you know, washed a shore of
Fishman Island. More importantly, he, well, not
more importantly, he's also a part of the Don Quixote family,
which is just kind of funny. I, I I.
Notice types of fucked. Say that again.
That family is all types of fucked.
Well, clearly not, because apparently you got the worst and

(25:49):
the best in the family. Yeah.
They have fucked situations, butyou know, as far as your Dragons
go, they're OK. Really, as long as sledge shield
Dragons go, they I, they, I yes,we have Don Quixote Miozgaard,
who is here on to protect Shiro Hoshi.
We we we reintroduce ourselves to the to the reverie during the

(26:10):
set of episodes, and Shiro Hoshiis just like becoming a captive
of everyone's least favorite celestial dragon by the name of
fucking Charlos. I almost forgot his fucking name
because he's so. Better off for it.
Honestly better off for it. Good old Charlos, everyone's
least favorite celestial dragon who just.

(26:32):
Losing his ass beat. He do love getting his shit
rocked, which I love that for him.
I don't love much else. Before him.
I love, I love watching my man get the shit kicked out of him,
but that's about it. But no, he, he, we, we sort of
saw him in the last set of episodes.
He was like, I don't like damn mermaid over there, you know,

(26:54):
fucking Squidward Squillium or something like that.
And he and then we we cut to this set of episodes and sure as
shit, he's got a giant ass slave.
Fuck off slave with him and they're trying to wrangle her
up. They do the bit where it's like
like nobody, nobody touches celestial dragon.
Or if Lucci shows up. Lucci, Kaku are in the are in
the fucking. Blog I got I gotta pause you
right here. So I, I, I know of Mioscar, like

(27:18):
I remember Mioscar existing. I just forgot in this moment,
like the scene we're describing right now.
I forgot the net, the sequence of events that were going to
occur. So Shirho, she's getting, you
know, chained up or whatever VV Rebecca are up in arms.
Everyone's trying to hold them back.
Same with Sigh and Leo and King Neptune.

(27:40):
And I remember Leo and Sigh likerunning off.
Like in my memory, I was like, OK, I know these two are going
to rode on from the crowd to like attack Charlos.
What I forgot was that Lucci stopped them.
I thought they were going to full connect and then they spend
the rest of this arc or this, you know, plot line, whatever
you want to call it, running from the authorities.

(28:06):
And that is not what happened. And I was like, whoa, where'd I
get that one? From No, that is not I.
Forgot my favorite villain showed up with with a drip and
then Kaku. I, I, you know, I, I, I think
that that could have been a, a fun, fun version of the way this
plays out. But no, no, that is not what

(28:29):
happened. That is not what happened.
My boy Lucci saved the day. Low key.
No, he did. What are you talking about?
No, he did at all. He stopped an International
Crisis from unfolding for. Fox sakes, are you kidding me,
brother He. Wanted to listen to me.
He's like, listen, you should bethanking me, all right?
If you had struck this guy, it'dbe all over for you.
And honestly, everyone's plateauor wherever they are courtyard.

(28:52):
God dude, are you kidding? He's literally placating a
horrible man to commit trafficking.
I'm not saying that Lucci isn't like a sick bastard who likes
being dominated by like, powerful authorities.
What I am saying, Well, he. Definitely doesn't like that
because he likes doing the dominating.
What are you talking about? OK, but this guy follows orders

(29:12):
from Head Hotchos and he he justlike, he knows his role is to be
a military dog. So like I'm going to say he
likes being dominated by like higher authorities.
That's all I'm going to say. This is crazy.
Is it? Is it really?
I'm going to ask you a question.What do you what do you think
Carlos was going to do with Shiro Hoshi when he had him?
You know, I thought that was just going to be wife number,

(29:34):
whatever, but then he. Said What do you do with a wife?
Oh, what do you do with a pet? Well, I don't even want to ask
that question. What do you do with a wife,
Justin? I was like, oh, he's just going
to have, you know, another trophy wife.
He's like, look, my wife the mermaid.
What do you do when you have a wife, Justin?
I don't know. I've never been married.
I've never been that far. My parents are divorced.

(29:55):
I don't know what a successful marriage looks like.
You, you just want to give LucciEddie W?
You can, don't you? What?
Does Lucci have to do with this?Well, because you you said that
he saved everybody. What are you talking about?
But then you started asking me, then he started asking me about
Charles and Sheer Ocean and I got I'm confused, what's going
on? Because I feel like you are not

(30:17):
allowed to make Lucci a hero here when the thing that he is
protecting people from is savinganother human being, creature,
fish, person from actual slavery.
I am not saying he has removed his villain status, I am just
saying contextually he was a hero in the grand scheme of

(30:40):
things in this room. You are a fucking madman.
I I this is crazy. You, you're saying this to piss
me off. I'm convinced you're you're
honestly I'm. So serious this guy stopped an
international incident from Curry.
So many people would have died right then and there in that
courtyard bro. Brother No.
The only one who saved anyone from dying had nothing to do.

(31:01):
Lucy, the only one who saved anybody from dying was Mio's
guard period, because they were about ready to throw hands.
Listen bro, Lucci was like, listen, I just saved you from
yourself. See this W?
What are you talking about? It's Mio's guard.
What are you doing? I think we should move on.
Clearly, clearly, we're on up sides of the aisle here.

(31:21):
Yeah, no shit. My God, this is crazy.
This is like, this should be a unanimous just like, oh man,
Mioskar really turned himself around and yet this guy's out
here like man, Lucci's a real the realist.
Both can be true at the same time.

(31:43):
They're not. They are absolutely not.
Only one of these things is true.
You know, you know, like that, you know that meme or the, the,
the bit where you have like, youknow what one guy only says lies
and the other guy only says truths.
Well, in this situation only oneguy is chill.
Neither. Only one man is chill.

(32:04):
So so the US guard saves Shirohoshi from being chained up
and he plans on yes thank God because one King Neptune was
about to throw, ready to risk itall.
He was like to my dearly deceased.
Life for you, and we're going back.
We're going back downstairs whenever.
He was like, listen, I love my wife.
I tried following her her wishesbut these humans can't be

(32:25):
reasoned with. I'm getting my daughter back and
he just had big JoJo aura going off He he.
Did he did start, you know, oozing that the JoJo energy a
little bit that did that did kind of happen.
He is. His stand was starting to come.
Honestly, he's shaped like 1. And that and then that was a
Miosgar came in and then he was like, he's like, listen,

(32:48):
honestly, I'm just glad that my status could finally do
something fucking productive fora change.
I love that for you, buddy. Also he made demands have
finally beared fruit. Yes.
And I love that he he tells those like, hey, you know, I'll
do my best to like keep Shiroshisafe, like with my presence and
my authority that I have. And and Leo asked him like, hey,

(33:09):
so let's say he he was like, if someone tries to like attack her
again, can I beat them up and just say that I did it on your
orders? He's like, yeah, if it's
necessary. And I just hear like Leo didn't
hear the if necessary part, he just heard a yes and moved on.
Yeah, but honestly, that's a great question to be like, wait,
wait. I mean, if you're a celestial
dragon, even if another celestial dragon tries to fuck

(33:30):
with Shira Hoshi, can you just like, give me the pass?
And then he's like, absolutely. Leo's like, shit, dude.
That's all you had to say? That's all you had to say.
Honestly, that was fantastic. Thank you.
Thank you for making my life so much easier.
That's a good bit. I do like that.
I also like how Cy went from like, dude, you can't do this to

(33:50):
all right, I guess we're all ready to throw hands.
Let's just fucking throw in the corner anyway.
Also Kuma's in these episodes. OK I've seen these episodes
before and watching this again made me re angry at his
situation. Really.
Oh, yeah. Only.
Only now are you really angry? I was.
Shaking with anger. Especially when.

(34:12):
Why? Cuz I just like Kuma, Kuma,
Kuma, cool dude. And then seeing with the state
he's in, and in particular, the way Roz word just like bounks
him over the head and talks about him and like realizes
like, oh, Kuma's in a rotation because he's quote UN quote the
best slave. And I'm like seething with rage.
I'm like, I hate it here. I I wish Tabo would have done it

(34:34):
too, brother. I wish Tabo did it.
Whatever he was thinking of doing.
I wish he I wish he did it. I wish more than Carsu never
stopped him. Should have done it.
Fucking Carsu. He doesn't.
He doesn't want my man's to be free.
Carsu's the villain, is what I'msaying.
Hello. I'm just kidding.
Oh, wait, no, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
No, no, no, no. I believe I I agree with that,
actually, given what I just saidand what you said back to my

(34:56):
original statement. Yeah, No, we're we're on
agreements here. Carlos Sioux villain, even
though I like him. OK.
OK, he's just like a plague Dr. Bro.
He's already got the villain energy maxed out.
You did. You did the fastest 180 I've
ever heard in my entire life. And my my brain didn't keep up
fast enough. It was OK.
Yeah, it was. Like when you're telling your
friend in traffic and you lose sidling for two seconds.

(35:17):
That's what happened. You know, I don't I don't know
if I'm if I'm like angry at Kumasituation.
I feel like to an extent, like he did it to himself, not not
like he deserves what he got, but more like he was.
I think as a character, we've always known like where like
like like we've always known what he's doing.
He's always made it very clear, like at least as like a, you

(35:40):
know, a bystander. He's like, yeah, I'm going to
become a, a, a Cyborg soon. He's like informed that to the
audience at some point in time, like I'm going to lose like the
rest of my mind back in Sabaodi.And I'm just like, OK, did why?
Why you do? Why did you do that?
Why, why did you do that to yourself?
So in my mind, I'm like less angry and more just like, I
mean, I'm like sad because I also love Kuma.

(36:02):
I think Kuma aesthetically is myfavorite warlord, always has
been. And like, I feel for the guy,
but also like, I don't know, like it seems like he cozied up
to the like he, he, he feels like an Icarus right now.
He flew way too close to the sun.
Maybe he believed in the government's cause or, you know,
he said he was a revolutionary, but then he also like gave his

(36:23):
body up in order to become like a new weapon and shit like that.
Like I don't, I just don't know enough about the guy.
To like it sounds like a whole lot of victim blaming and I'm
not here to stand for it. I'm not.
I don't. I don't.
Disagree, but like we don't knowwhat he's a victim of.
There's no there's nothing to victim of.
Clearly slavery. That's good enough for me.
Well, that's true, he is. He has now become a slave.
So if that does doesn't paint a picture for you, then I don't
know. Anything else personally?

(36:44):
Right. No, you're right.
OK, rest my case. You know what case case
disclosed the the the jury sideswith Justin on this one.
OK, you got me. You do he do be a slave now
regardless of what he was doing beforehand, which is probably

(37:06):
not good. Speaking of Kuma, so the
revolutionaries are there. Obviously we really knew that.
And Sabo goes in the infiltrates.
He's taking a bunch of pictures on his snail camera.
For what purpose? I can't tell you one because I
literally can't. But also I don't think I
actually know and so I'm not. Let's ask to no answer once at

(37:28):
all. So they established that picking
up Kuma is part of the plan, butthey didn't make it sound like
it was the plan. And that made me very curious.
I was like, yes, well, what? What else are you here for?
Like, what are you gonna do? Storm the castle?
Like, like actually storm it? Storm it is like full frontal
assault. Because that sounds dumb.
Well, I mean, I, I, I feel like,so I, I think in this set of

(37:51):
episodes, we're supposed to be kind of like left a little like
on edge, like what are they doing next?
Right? Like, I don't think they're, I
don't think they gave us the whole plan on purpose, but one
of the plans is definitely to retrieve Kuma.
They've made it. They've made that very clear,
which I'm thankful of because Kuma don't deserve what he's got
going on. Also, I would have been he's.
Angry if they were like, so likeCarson and Morley were like,

(38:12):
hey, even if we take him back, he he's never going to be the
same guy we knew. And I was like, if you use that
as an excuse to leave him behind, I will hate you forever.
Well. I mean, also, like, you know,
you got to look out for numero Uno too, you know, a little bit.
I I wouldn't blame them if they were like, listen, there's a lot
going on. I don't think we could save Kuma
after all. But as of right now, they seem

(38:34):
chill. You know, Morley's digging
around like a little like a little mole.
He's having a great time. I'm surprised he didn't just
grab him right there, honestly. You know what?
But they could. Point.
You know what? Morley just reaches up, goes
wink. No one's going to know what to
do in that immediate moment. If they act quick enough,
everyone who's in that vicinity is going like what the fuck just
happened? It was really they're too.
Stun locked to to think or move Morley you know crushes Rosword

(38:59):
gets back Puma we go out with the way we came in.
I think, however, that was exactly.
It was really funny when Morley's hand just like comes
out of the ground and goes like,get down here, guys, we have a
Chad. OK, Thanks, Morley.
Speaking of. Morley, someone reminded me of
this. I don't remember through which
channels it happened. I want to say it was through a

(39:22):
Spotify message, but someone reminded me that Morley uses she
her pronouns. Yeah, yeah, she absolutely does.
Forgot that part. Yeah, because she's a queen.
Can't you tell? You know, Morley's just missing
the crown, bro. I just really needed the cherry
on top the the world's not doingenough for me or the minors.

(39:43):
Help me. Really.
Yeah, Morley's one of the few characters that makes me feel
good about how fucking progressive the show could be.
One of the few instances where they do progressive right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Love me some mole people.
Yas queen. Yas queen.
But beyond that, Bonnie was here.

(40:04):
That is Queen Dawa Jerkani when she's.
Old that frustrates me what our current situation of the boys
not being here. This frustrates me the most
because you're this was like, for me, like one of the most
exciting moments of of these episodes.
Not, not learning that there's aking of the fucking planet.
We'll get there, we'll get there.

(40:25):
I I was just there. I was just like, I was so I
don't know, like, you know, whenyou first meet Connie, you're
like, what the hell is this old lady doing here?
Because, you know, you're like, OK, they gave her like a name.
Other kings and Queens or whatever get dropped for the
Reverie. I personally don't assume

(40:47):
they'll have much importance. They're just kind of like, you
know, flavor text characters, honestly.
And they get me Connie. And I'm like, what the hell are
you doing here? And then she sneaks back past
the gate and I'm like, oh, what's that about?
And then you're, and then you, if you pay attention, you're
like, OK, Connie, current queen of Sorbet Kingdom, wherever that
is. And then you pan over to Kuma

(41:08):
and it's like former king of Sorbet Kingdom.
And I'm just like, whoa, what's going on?
Kuma is not your wife or your mom.
I don't know why I assumed to his wife, but I'm a stick with
it personally. And then Connie turns into
jewelry Bonnie and I'm like, OK,hold on.
What's happening here? Is jewelry Bonnie like actually
Connie and and therefore actually the queen of Sorbet

(41:30):
Kingdom origin, a posture. I don't know.
And I want to, and I'm so mad that guys aren't here to weigh
in on this because this was so cool to me.
I know, brother. Tell me about it.
You're preaching to the choir. They're they're these idiots
over here. Don't eat that.
And you know, the worst part is we're going to talk about it
next week. Yeah, and we're going to we got.
Other shit that we want to talk about.
We're just going to have a lighter, less in depth portion

(41:53):
of this, or at least less in depth as we want it to be
because at some point we're going to be like, are we got cut
it off? And that makes me sad bastards.
So anyway, I'm going to just tell him, yeah, so she's
definitely the. Did you get all that?
Yes, yes, OK, good. In fact, I didn't even know that

(42:14):
last one, so thank you for that.Yeah, I know.
Don't trust me, man. I'm I'm, I'm a fucking, I'm a
treasure trove of knowledge, allsorts of knowledge.
Well I I appreciate the fact that that was your most teased
thing that you were looking forward talking about.
Meanwhile, mine very contrast was the of course realization

(42:37):
that the shadowy figure that we met last set of episodes is none
other than some fucker name Emu and claims the the empty throne
that were introduced to earlier in these set of episodes.
Yeah. Also Stelly being so horny for
for that particular power was hilarious to me.

(43:00):
Stelly in this court assistant whenever this guy in the rope
is, he's like he wants. To sit on that fucking throne,
baby. He wants to sit on that goddamn
throne. Fuck you, Stelly.
All my homies say it's Stelly though, But you know, it's just
it stinks because like, you know, I want to, I want to play

(43:22):
the game of like, OK. What's going on non binary dude?
Is that just like a bad temporary silhouette much much
like that ODA does and so he comes up with a real form for
the character or does he move really just look like a four
horned crowned thing? That's you.
Know this is this is going to bemy bit.

(43:44):
I I still believe this to this day that I don't know what or
who emo emu is but for sure thatfucking dude thing person has
the silhouette. Silhouette fruit for sure for
certain. Because there's a real form
underneath there, but they they,they just have a no.

(44:05):
Buddy, this dude, this dude played super Smash Bros melee
and unlocked 1 character and waslike brother I'm going to make
this my my whole identity for the rest of my life.
That's what happened. I'm telling you this, this thing
was in a fully lit flower chamber.
And you know what really like like twists the knife is that

(44:29):
the random fuck off servant thatcame and summoned Emu to the
throne room was totally lit and easily easy to see.
And Emu, on the other hand, is in this perfectly lit flower
chamber and just like, Oh yeah, you know, silhouette.
Just an endless silhouette no matter what.
Shit, you're making sense. Hold on.
I'm telling you, brother, like this, this shit's wild.

(44:49):
It's. Silly, but you're making sense.
Thank you I I appreciate that. Also they have Uchiha eyes,
whatever they are. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they
have. We've seen these eyes before.
They got maybe not these eyes, but the, the, the rings.
We've seen them in some characters and previously.
Do you? Know if I want to talk further

(45:10):
be having be having eyes like. That and I did we see their
eyes? The the other thing that has
similar eyes? I don't.
I don't know if we've seen thoseyet.
OK. I don't even know what you're
talking about. So I'm just going to move on
then I guess. I mean, would this be like a
spoiler? It really wouldn't be.
So not emo. Wrong character.

(45:31):
The elephant of of Zoe? I don't actually remember.
Oh. Yeah, no, no, we saw Zoe's eyes.
Yeah, we saw Zoe's eyes. Well, Zunisha's eyes.
Yeah, OK. I couldn't remember if we
learned Zunisha's name already. I was like wait is that spoiler?
Like I said before, it's not enough to only pepper on the
details without literally just saying spoilers.

(45:52):
You got to know what is a spoiler.
You got to know what the minefield is.
Bro, we're too close to the end and the enemy has literally we
just doubled our minefield. Like there's so many more
explosives out. Listen.
I don't want to. I still have perfect knowledge
of everything that happens in the series.
That's also just because I watchthis shit too much.
Not same I have. I think I'm somehow too close to

(46:15):
the current where I'm like, okay, my memory is bad enough
where I forget the minor details.
And also I know we learn XYZ information.
I just can't remember. Is that soon quote UN quote or
did we learn it already? Because now it feels like so
much like I can no longer just be like, oh oops, I spoiled you
guys are gonna forget this in the next 600 episodes.

(46:37):
Now it's more like, hey, it's like right around the corner,
man. It do it do be a little around
the corner. I got to be so careful for the
next 300 up, not 300. Actually, it might be 300
episodes. It is actually still 300
episodes. It is still. 300 episodes.
Make make no mistake, we are still 3 episodes off, which when
you think about it, isn't that much.

(46:58):
That's that's the length of timeit took us to get to Water 7 on
the original run of the podcast.So I got.
I got to. Just to keep my toes on for I
got to be careful what I say forthe for the rest of time.
For the rest of time I got. To make sure my theories are
actually theories and not bullshit spoilers.
The only other major context that we got that wasn't EMU was

(47:21):
that the five elders, which up into this point really haven't
come back into the story for anyreason other than to just kind
of like be just move the plot along from the world government
side. So EMU is apparently above them,
and the and the five elders are the Celestial Dragons that rule

(47:42):
the Celestial Dragons. I guess is how they.
They, they pitched it to us. So there's a hierarchy.
Now, we don't know much about the Emu situation, but we know
that the five elders are the five elders and they, they
answer to Emu as of right now. That's, that's what we know.
And then also Shanks was in the set of episodes for some reason
and. My man's requested an audience

(48:03):
with the five elders, and they were like, sure, why not?
Brother, I got to ask, do you think Shanks is a villain?
Do do you think he's going to betray us?
I don't know, man, that this question has been posed to me
for damn near a decade and I still don't know.
And and this is another thing I'm upset about because the guys
aren't here to speculate with us.
I hate this. This is another like big like,

(48:24):
yo, are you? Are you on like team Shanks is a
rat bastard? Or are you like, Nah, this is?
I'm absolutely on Team Shanks asa rat bastard.
He's the fucking rat marine, whoever that is.
He's going to be, he's going to be Red Rat.
Or well, I guess they already have red dog.
Fuck, I need, I need something else for rat.

(48:45):
Give me give me anyone. Got orange yet?
Orange. Rat.
I don't know if we know an orange yet, but also orange
doesn't really go with the Shanks motif.
Crimson. Velvet Yeah, give me.
Crimson Rat. I like Crimson red even though
it's just red with extra steps. Yes, exactly.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. God damn.
Unless he can have the blue motif against since you know,

(49:06):
Alkiji's I guess cynically booted.
What? What if Shanks is the new blue
pheasant? Well, I don't think that would
be the case. I like, I like the idea that
he's rat because that means thathe's like, you know, like he's a
traitor. But also the color needs to make
sense because he's he's got a lot of red in him.
Scarlet. Snake.

(49:27):
I like Scarlet Snake, that's cool.
I like that. Although then you you sort of
take away the opportunity for Smoker to be a snake and that
makes me sad. Did you want him to be a snake?
Yeah, I wanted to be White Snakebecause he's got a move called
White Snake. Well, I guess it's fair.
He he do be like that. Where the fuck is smoker bro?
I don't know, brother. He's he's in his own little

(49:48):
little fucking world out of. Smoker dude, piss off ODA bro.
I don't know, man, like he, he kind of did.
He did Smoker real dirty in PunkHazard back in the day, I feel
and. Then we haven't really seen him
since. Yeah, no smoker.
Poor guy, he's not. He doesn't got a lot going on
these days, see? Hina before we see him.
We do. We do.

(50:09):
No, that's that's true. That is true.
All right, Well, unfortunately, I it's hard to even poke fun at
learning emu because they're so fresh and we know so little
about that. You know, I think I just have
to. We just have to let it lie.
What do you think, Justin? Last little bit of semi relevant
information. Yes, Cobra asked for an audience

(50:30):
with the five elders at some point during his visit.
That did. Happen And then they also talked
about how they need to start thenext great cleansing, which is
really Yikes. Really.
Yikes. I'll just say the quote here
since it won't really matter when I say it The the five
elders kneel before Emu and say have you decided which quote UN
quote light needs to be extinguished from history this

(50:51):
time, which you know, real Amin is saying could mean anything
could mean nothing. We.
We know Emu was was really upsetwith Shirahoshi, Luffy and
Blackbeard for some reason and then then got a really good look
at VV on another picture. So apparently those are the four
that they hate the most right now.
You know, I didn't think about this because I have 0 forward

(51:13):
thinking, you know, that that that what do you call it that
rain check question from last week, last episode, whatever of
you know, ranking the princessesin terms of how you think, how
important you think they'll be to the story.
I wonder what those got, what their answers would be if after
they see these episodes, if theyhad remembered that Emu had

(51:33):
taken a particular interest in Vin some capacity.
And I guess also as well as Shiroshi.
But you know. That's a good point.
That's a good point. But I think that's it.
That's basically everything we can do on our own.
Sadly, I. Think you're right.
I think we're done, unfortunately.
Big Sach kids, I hope you'll enjoy this so far.
You know, they know what they'rehere for.
Let's be honest, they know what to expect from.

(51:55):
Us. I mean they turned us off 5
minutes when they heard it was only us they were like just the
2. Of us and.
They were like, that's not just a cool song we're singing.
This is a. Yeah.
Not alliteration, illusion, whatever.
Yeah, similarly like for. No, it's it's just literal.
It's very literal, in fact. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
All right. Anyway, moving on.

(52:16):
Next week is going to be 890 to 893 folks.
That's not true. Hold up.
I don't know where that three came from.
Wait, is it? No, I put that there.
I'm I'm doing I'm doing batch sets.
I am deciding batch sets not youis me is me.
So we're not doing 90 to 91. We are doing 4 full episodes.

(52:38):
Oh my God. That's me.
I I'm taking the reins. I was told that that is now my
job and by goodbye Dag gum and I'm doing it.
We are doing 4 episodes and we are going to maintain 4 episodes
for the foreseeable future. I'm going to trust you that
you've done the necessary looking forward to be like,
yeah, that makes sense. Yep, I absolutely have.
Don't worry, we're all set. We're all good.

(52:59):
We're gonna do we're. Gonna manage, all right Anyway,
890 to 893. Moving on, man.
This schedule is gonna really suck when you go on another work
trip. Very true, a little true.
Also that happens very soon, in like literally a week.
OK, anyway, moving on to quo. Well, shit.
All right. Where's my other one quote?

(53:22):
Yes, this banger from King Neptune.
Even if we give them our love, humans won't change.
Nice what a what a nice what a deep line as as very deep.
Similarly, I have one from Neptune, where in his rage he
was like, I'm going to obliterate these fucking fools
and then we're going to escape back to the sea where we where

(53:44):
where we're safe. We never should have come up
here. As long as there are humans that
are going to be looking down on us and try to take advantage of
us, it's not worth and risking our lives for these fools.
Oh man, I'm like, Oh no, we haveto.
Please don't forget everything that you learned during the
Fishman Island art, please. Nah bro he saw his daughter and
and and chain and coffee was like our.

(54:06):
Age. The the the humanitarian enemy
out the window. Gone, Absolutely gone.
His dad mode activated by extension.
My only other quote would be from Yosgaard where he said
please, by all means I'm glad that my status can finally be of
use for once. After all, I owe your your late
wife an an immense debt for finding my humanity.

(54:29):
And you got Korea on the side who's like damn one of them's
got a fucking heart. Fuck that's crazy.
At least he ain't wasting it. Dude.
The other Don Quixote guy, he was a he was an idiot.
He should have just been like a nice guy but also a celestial
dragon like this dude. And then it was just too naive
for his own good. Unfortunately, that's.
What I'm saying, dog, like, at least Mioscar knows what's up.
The other, the other guy is an idiot.

(54:53):
All right, moving on to the Golden ham.
Well, my only pick is Mioscar. I'm going to be so fucking for
real. Oh, I see that and respect that.
And I was thinking about Sapo, but we've been here long enough.
We're going to Miosgaard. Fantastic Miosgaard.
I don't know how to pronounce itor spell it, but I think that's.
Correct. It's got a lot of Nordic.
I don't wanna say Nordic. Yeah, you got it right.

(55:14):
Looks good to me. There's AJ in.
There, All right, That's that's all my stuff.
It's your turn. Moving on to the fan.
Mail. We got a letter from Josh and
Josh writes after hearing Justice say that he hasn't heard
anyone speak positively about Frankie's new voice actor.
I had to chime in. I personally like it.
I will always have a soft spot for Kazukiyao from his original

(55:36):
run as Django back in Syrup Village and Mr. Chuban Clay.
He will be greatly missed after watching the newest episodes.
Subaru Kimura is the new voice actor for Frankie who also
voices Toto from Jujitsu. Kaizen brought new life to
Frankie. Not only do I enjoy his voice
acting from JJK, from him screaming Jennifer Lawrence and

(55:59):
my best of friend though. Oh yeah, total love Jennifer
Lawrence and JJK. It's a great bit.
I I had no idea. That's interesting.
But I feel like his voice matches the energy of Frankie
even IRL. He actually collects Coca-Cola,
even having a room dedicated to his collection and they send
evidence of it which is insane. Where's my line here?

(56:20):
The problem with One Piece beingsuch a long running show is that
the voice actors don't stop aging despite the characters
staying relatively the same age.The passing of the Speedo fell
akin to Shanks giving Luffy his straw hat and putting his faith
in the next generation with One.With the excuse me?
With the One Piece live action coming out on Netflix soon, this
may be a common occurrence, especially if they're going to

(56:43):
redo the entirety of One Piece. Actually I'm a dumbass.
They mean, they mean the studio wit version of One Piece that's
coming allegedly soon. Not live action.
I'm done. My bad.
Yeah, I forgot about that. Actually, no.
That. Was going to be a whip version
of One Piece. They're doing well.
They're only doing E blue so far.

(57:04):
They're redoing all that or whatever, but.
Can't wait to see that next on here.
With most of the cast being over50, we're going to need a new
we're going to need new voice actors from the next generation
and I believe we are going in the right direction with this
new casting. I can't wait for you guys to get
to the current episodes and I will be along for the ride until
the end. Sincerely, Josh, and thank you,

(57:25):
Josh. We, we appreciate.
Thank you, Josh, your camaraderie from now until the
end. Thank you for sticking with us
and giving us your thoughts. Also, since you goons did not
read an e-mail last week, I'm going to read another message,
this one from our Instagram, as soon as I find that day or Tang.
We're doing an Instagram message.
I think we haven't done that in a long time.

(57:46):
So this one's from listener Jana.
Hi, just want to let you guys know that I love your podcast.
My boyfriend convinced me to watch all of One Piece with him.
Honestly, I think he's just trying to keep trying to keep me
in this relationship for another10 years or something.
I'm listening to you guys podcast.
After watching the show with him, I'm starting to know more

(58:07):
fun facts about it than he is, which which I adore to rub in
his face. Hey.
I really enjoy hearing all your theories and your hot takes
about the show at the moment. We just got to Fishman Island so
we got some ways to go. Glad to have you guys to help me
get through it all. Thank you for putting in all the
effort and time all of you put in.

(58:28):
Greetings from Jana from Belgium.
Why? Thank you, Jana.
Appreciate the the message. What what kind kind words.
All right. Well, that concludes fan mail.
All right, well then the moving on from fan mail, we have, of
course, the producer shout outs Taco and it's Me Rabbit.
I believe I've recorded a movie with Christian for It's Me

(58:50):
Rabbit. I won't say what it is, but you
know what it is And can I tell you I I think you're going to
enjoy. I do think you're going to
enjoy, not just just just a little little teaser for you.
Anyway, Taco, fuck you. Moving on, moving on to the garb
gap. Justin, I I got no bits for you

(59:12):
this week. I don't, I don't think I've got,
I just, you know, I got, I got the bag.
I don't know what I don't want me to do.
You know. Actually, you know what, Justin?
Waiting. Pausing.
Fuck this. I'm throwing the bag away.
We don't need the we don't need a garb, Gab.
You know what we need? We just need heart.
We need, we need determination. We need purse.
We, we, we need perseverance. You know what, Justin?

(59:32):
What we need is for you to recommend me something.
Shit. All right then.
I got a couple actually, You know, since we're making these
spicy, let's really crack this thing open.
Is there something you're in themood for, Brendan?
Is there something I'm in the mood?
For is there something you're like low key pursuing of like

(59:54):
man, I really could use a new short series to like just binge
in a weekend and then move on from it or like a new movie or a
new band or something. Something is anything like that?
I I am currently I was I was really needing music for a
minute, but I don't feel like I'm in that space anymore.

(01:00:15):
I have recently found a couple of movies I want to watch.
Justin, I need some TVI need some good TV.
What? What is good?
TV and it could be anything. You you can give me, you give me
drama. You can give me what?
What do you call it? Like the, the, the like a sitcom
or, or the OR what? What's that shit called when
it's like real but like fake still, you know what I'm saying?

(01:00:37):
Reality TV. That one.
That one reality TV. OK, OK.
OK. I don't actually have options
for all these. Is is there one you're leaning
toward more than the other? Give me, give me some good
fucking bad reality TV. Lay it on me, brother.
All right, I personally have notwatched this yet.
However, this always. A good start.

(01:00:59):
This this I one I'm seeing a bunch of clips online because
it's just, you know, hot right now.
But also I've been feeling such an intense amount of FOMO about
this because my office like thisis like their thing that they
all talk about. Like all of my Co workers I have
like immediate close contact with socially every morning.

(01:01:20):
They're like, did you see that new episode?
Did you see this? Did you see that?
And I'm just here like, it's, it's like listening to the
office T. I'm like, what are they guys
talking about? Who's that person?
What, what what's going on? And Brendan, it may not surprise
you to say that my recommendation, both for you and
honestly probably myself, it will be Love Island USA.
Oh my fucking God, not that shitagain.

(01:01:41):
I I, I thought you were going togive me something good, man.
Come on, there's. No good reality TV?
Come on, what are we talking about here?
Brother, I'm more of a like loveis blind kind of guy.
Maybe I I did see a a season of the ultimatum, which I still
think is fucking like bad trash,not even good trash.

(01:02:02):
But I also watched the the the gay version of it and that was a
bit spicier. That one was a little bit more
fun. I'm going to be honest.
I'm going to be with you, Brendan.
I, if you can tell me the difference between any of these
three titles you just said I will.
I will go. I will come back to you next
week with a better reality TV. This this is my under.

(01:02:23):
OK, so first of all, Love is blind is they have to date.
But it's reality TV where a bunch of single people go in
with the intention of dating, but they date each other by
looking through, not looking through, I'm sorry, by they're
in like cubicles and between thecubicle is a wall.

(01:02:44):
So you can't see the person on the other side.
So the whole point is that they try to like make a connection
with somebody sight unseen. That's that's the gimmick.
And then after they, they, they choose a person sight unseen and
then they go like, Oh, I choose you.
And then the other person will be like, you're not actually my
number one or I choose you too. Then they do a quote UN quote
mock wedding on the spot where they they get married quote UN

(01:03:07):
quote and then they have to livewith each other for a month and
then at the end of the month they decide if they're going to
stay married. It's actually great bad TV
because it really does set them up for failure.
Meanwhile ultimatum is it is toolong term relationships people
but like a group of like 6 of them.

(01:03:28):
So like long term relationships people who claim that they are
giving their significant other an ultimatum, either you need to
marry me soon or we're going to break up.
And the bit is that a bunch of couples get into a room together
and instead of immediately breaking up, the ultimatum is
you have to marry me by the end of this game show.
Instead, they just like date another person within the game

(01:03:51):
show for a little while, for like a month.
And then they they go like, I'm going to stick with my original
partner or they might go like, fuck you, I like this new person
I was dating. And then like all hell breaks
loose. Like that's the bit with
ultimate anyway. Love Island is just stupid.
I think it's about a bunch of single people that go on an
island and get drunk and then they pretend to like each other

(01:04:12):
to make money. I'm.
Not going to say you're wrong because I can't disprove you or
not. All I know is that this is the
hot gossip. This is the hot tea in the
office the past couple weeks. I'm missing out.
You told me I was going. To be able to tell you the
difference between the three andI did.
That's all I'm saying. No, I'm not blaming you.
I'm I'm I'm blaming me. To me, all reality television is
basically the same shit. It is pretty good defining line

(01:04:37):
between Love is blind and ultimatum and and and and and.
This one Love is blind sounds kind of cool.
I'm not gonna lie to you. Like probably like it anyway.
Bad TV because you know they're set up to fail.
Like, like, come on, guy. I know very little about Love is
Blind. All I think of it is just it's
just hot people quote UN quote. Yeah, I mean, it's all.

(01:04:59):
Just people who want to be famous sexually, large
challenges that probably borderline sexual harassment and
they just get mad at each other because they're like, hey, I
like you. Well, I liked you yesterday, but
actually like this other person today and oh, oh shit, oh shit.
I don't know what happened, but guess what?
We introduced a new person. There's a new variable on the

(01:05:21):
island. Everyone fought over that person
or hate them. I don't know.
I don't know about this show, but I just keep hearing about
it. Got FOMO and also Hutta.
Whoever she is she real pretty and that's all I got to say.
OK, well, fair enough if. You want a real recommendation?
I got two more for you. Not not reality TV.
Unfortunately, this is not my area of expertise.
You know what? You hit me with them, Justin,
because I was unsatisfied with that one.
Give me another one. You know, I'll give you both

(01:05:42):
because because you know, we made the rules here, all right,
and also I've been watching these within like the past week,
all right. If you want a short show that's
fully complete, as far as I can tell, there's no intention for a
season 2 or any type of continuation.
The story felt, you know, completed at the end of the the
episode run. Netflix owns Gentry Chow versus

(01:06:04):
the Underworld. And if you're unfamiliar with
the show, it is a animated show more without themed.
I won't say it's not for kids, but you know, it probably
shouldn't be for kids. It's basically about this girl.
She's like 16. She moves to Seoul, South Korea
to avoid some shit in her hometown, but she ends up going

(01:06:25):
back to her hometown to just kind of like reconnect or
whatever moves in with her grandma.
And the the bit is, is that she burned down her like a block of
her her childhood town in like somewhere in Texas because she
has magical powers that turn herinto like a fire God
essentially. And she now suddenly has to deal

(01:06:49):
with the ramifications of that honestly very traumatic event.
We'll also figure out the mystery.
Traumatic. Yes she was like I don't know 5
when it happened and didn't understand what was happening so
she has to deal with that on topof figuring out the
disappearance of her parents slash death.
Also she has to fight creatures from the underworlds.
It's very influenced by like Korean K pop aesthetic along

(01:07:15):
with like Chinese mythos. There's a lot of cool stuff
going on. I think it's animated
beautifully. The fucking intro song is sung
by Cat's Eye and that shit bangs.
Honestly my only real downside to this series is that it ends
in 12 episodes. Like it's not a bad ending, it's
just like, I didn't want it to end, I wanted more.
There are so many, well not so many.

(01:07:36):
There's characters you can do somuch with and you know there are
questions you will have that unfortunately you just won't get
answers to and that sucks. I highly recommend if you want
something complete. And then my other
recommendation. You know I'm gonna cut you off.
All right, shit, all right. That was that was that was good
recommendation. I, I, I feel much more satisfied
with that one now you. Can't Gentry child versus the
underworld? Highly recommend.

(01:07:56):
It's very fun, very good stuff. Do not skip the intro, that shit
bangs every time. That shit bangs.
That shit bangs. It's called Flame I think by
Cat's Eye, and mildly related. I between watching that and
another K Pop themed entity on Netflix that will not name
because you're only getting one recommendation For me, I think

(01:08:17):
I've finally started in my K Popera 10 years after it's been
relevant to anybody. Right.
Yeah. So, so if you if you see me on
the Discord server, drop your recommendations.
I like mostly like English with a little bit of Korean thrown in
there and and like I I haven't found a boy band that I like.
I like the women so far. Boy bands aren't doing it for.
Me. All right.

(01:08:37):
Fair enough. All right.
Well, you know, Justin, do you do you mind you don't thank you
for the recommendation, but do you mind doing the the end of
the show plugs since since you're here?
Oh right, so we got Twitter, we got an Instagram.
Follow us on those, especially since I didn't I forgot to
mention this during the show andalso off the show.

(01:08:59):
We will be watching a One Piece movie relatively soon.
And so the I mentioned it to theguys.
The intention is to do a live watch along with that of that
movie. And if we can't do that, then at
least we can do like a live podcast recording date to be

(01:09:19):
decided. So stick to our socials and more
importantly join our Discord server to stay in a loop with
that, especially our Discord server.
That's where a lot of the stuff happens live and quicker and you
don't have to wait a week for usto record and mention it on a
mic, blah, blah, blah. Follow us on social media, all
that stuff. You can send an e-mail to us
like Josh did at pandasightings@gmail.com.

(01:09:40):
At Panda Sightings is our socialmedia tags.
You want to follow us there? We got a red red bubble merch
shop with stickers and designs that can be posted on various
pieces of apparel and and and Knick knacks and whatever.
We don't have a store anymore. They'll be they'll be back
eventually. I'm missing something.
Oh, rated five stars on Spotify.You can comment on Spotify and I

(01:10:02):
can comment back to you. I don't know if Spotify gives
you a notification that I've wrote back to you, but you know,
if you're ever just curious, just check back to your
comments, Sir, You know what I really listen to?
We have probably commented on. Probably a response.
Yeah, a response to everything, for the most part at least.
I'll give you an emoji if I don't have words.
So, you know, revisit those things, see what happens and

(01:10:26):
yeah, risk five stars bro. We're at like 4.8 now and and
that shit makes you sad. Listen, yeah, honestly, I've
given up on the dream. It's fine.
I can't. I can't give up on the dream.
I have to give me something to wake up for.
Every morning not good enough? We're not.
Doing my job. It's going to be for this five
star review. But you know, I do write.
Reviews on like, you know, we can write, write a review.

(01:10:48):
You know, Apple Podcasts can write reviews.
Audible can write reviews if youwant to write those and make
sure we see them, e-mail to us. Or, you know, DM it to us
somewhere. You know the ways I believe in
you. Send us a message or pigeon.
Except how do you know where I live?
Yeah, I'm just kind of rambling.I don't know.
Am I missing something? You sure are.
No, I think. You're good, all right.
Cool gang. Gang.
Gang, gang, gang. Well, you know, it's, it's that

(01:11:11):
time of the night again. Justin, I'm going to need you to
start singing that song. I, I, I hear you.
I, I, I like this K pop stuff. I, I haven't learned Korean yet.
So I don't, I don't think it's appropriate for me to sing in
Korean because I'm already like kind of bad at Spanish and I'm
Puerto Rican and I'm like, I'm bordering the line of being
offensive with that. If I try to speak Korean, I am

(01:11:34):
crossing the line into offensiveterritory.
And, and personally, I don't want to start an international
incident, just like how Rob Lucci didn't prevented an
international incident from happening in these episodes.
All right, well, you know what? I'm I'm going to leave then and
you can just sing because you you totally missed my bit.
I'm going to give you 1 is the loneliest number and you can
just sing that to yourself whileI skate out the door.

(01:11:55):
OK. All right, goodbye.
One is the loneliest number thatyou'll ever be.
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