Sadge Moments Tierlist

Sometimes a good cry is all you need.

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Episode Transcript

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All right, boys, Are you ready for another grand recording?
No, not really. Oh, well, that's good actually,
because I was going to tell us that we can't start yet.
Oh. Oh thank God I need to pee so
bad. Yeah, yeah, honestly, fantastic.
Yeah, we know we need to. Honestly, I don't know how long
we got to wait. I'm expecting a package and
yeah, it hasn't shown up yet. All right, I'm done so we can

(00:22):
get the show on the road now. Nope, I I still don't have my
package actually. So what kind of package did you?
Order a package. I ordered tear gas because, you
know, like the the theme of the episode for for those give me a
drag at home is we're we're ranking sad moments.
And I just thought like, hey, you know, getting us into the
spirit of things. But yeah, I don't have the tear
gas and. I don't think you should,

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personally. Oh, that's what you needed it
for? Oh, I've got I've got some Vicks
Vapo rub right here. Oh shit, really?
Yeah, we can. We can shoot the same, we can
shoot the same effect with with this.
Fix makes you cry. You put like run underneath your
eyes. I mean, I've done that before.
I don't know, maybe, maybe maybeI was just.
Is that safe? Also, am I OK to do that?
Also, I rubbed all of your handsand jalapeno while you were

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napping. Oh, there it is.
Make you cry. Oh God, OK, I think, I think I'm

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in the mood. I'm perfect.
I'm in the moment now. Time to start.
I'm so. Tearless about sad moments.
One Piece pre time skip only because we're trying to be in
and out of here in an hour. And by we, I mean me.
So it's not. I know we were.
Doing it. Love that for us.
Yeah, it's still won't. Happen listeners that you know
they want that three hour fucking that that three hour

(01:52):
listen well, sure. But our upcoming spoiler cast is
for as soon as I catch up on 50 chapters and schedule that you
know. Better do that soon.
How you're announcing that that's happening and you're also
not done with the homework, so Iwouldn't get anyone's hopes.
So I mean like, you know, like it's the attention is there and
it's coming eventually. Listen, you have that spoiler
cast in a year. What's a couple more weeks or

(02:12):
months, you know? Yeah, yeah, I just like 420.
Six. I'm sure, I promise.
I think. Right.
It's just it's like the more maybe you shouldn't mention he
who shall not be named in passing unless you plan to do
something about it in like the near future plan.
I plan to read 50 plus chapters of what is plan.
It just hasn't actually been done.
It hasn't been any capacity, butthere is a plan.

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It's in place, it just hasn't been executed but.
There's been 0 execution whatsoever, but the plan is not
even written. It's in my head.
What's there to write down? Read manga chapters, that's
always. Yeah, but that's been on your To
Do List for months, right? It's been a couple of weeks.
Like, have I needed? Should I theoretically have

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caught and, like, been keeping up?
Yeah, sure. Everyone falls off the wagon
sometimes. It was only recently where I
went, ha, We haven't known a spoiler cast in a while, haven't
we? And Brenda was like, yeah, I
think you're right. This this conversation.
Was not six months ago. I think you're right.
I was like yeah, no, this this is right.
We have not done a spoiler cast in Well, to be fair, six months
ago I didn't feel like we were ready.
Now I think we're a little ready.

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A bits happened A bits happened 6 from between now and six
months ago. It's like a couple of things.
This is like a couple of like semi.
Important is worth of stuff, youknow.
Yeah, yeah, A. Couple more than five, I'd say.
Like 7, you know. 7 might be right.
That might be the correct number.
Actually, I feel like a. Pretty much yeah.
Tearless here. Sad emo moments in one piece,

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pre time skip in descending order.
Our tears are my cocodo. And then we have crazy in
Espanol. Granny Cocodo.
Oh, oh, oh, I like this. Yeah, Granny Cocoro question
mark. Then we have you know, somebody
cried me though, and then we have not sad, but and I wanted
to finish that sentence, but I wasn't sure what it should end

(03:58):
on that that's intended for moments that are like, I don't
know, just literally anything that's not sad, but still move
me in a way. And and then our final list here
is didn't feel a thing. I.
Don't want to feel a thing? I'm scared.
I'm sorry. There we go.
Not sad, but memorable. I mean, what's right?
Yeah, Memorable's good. I like memorable marks for me.
We're gonna, we're gonna edit the the category live, folks.

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It's. Made yet again.
All right. I, I, I, I, I'm down with this.
All right. Beautiful.
I like it. So do we want to go in order as
I've listed these pictures very meticulously twice over or we
would just launch up around? I think we we do the order that
we are given. I feel I feel good about that
and also a good note for the audience.

(04:42):
So this list, what does it have?Like 2127 items something like.
That 2728. 2728 items. All items were curated by none
other than Justin here and also only in pre time skip.
There are no salty sad moments in the post time skip.
This is a. This is a pre time.

(05:02):
Skip special. Feel like we could do the
second-half of this tier list once we finish this upcoming
art. Whenever the fuck we do that.
I think, I think that's a fair, fair judgement as well.
Yes, I I I can see that. Oh we're we're content maxing
only keep the the pre time skip now stuff now so we can do post
time skip later. No, fuck dude.

(05:24):
I don't know if we'll ever have.We're still going to be waiting
a minute before we can go through an entire post time
skip. Well it does have to be entire
but what is what is pre time skip encompass 400 ish episodes?
Yeah. 512 think yeah. We're like not terribly far away
from that same number post time skip.
Yeah. So you know.
This time, no. We aren't this this time next

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year we will be at that number we will have.
We will have watched the series pre time skip twice.
This time next year. Yeah.
Yeah. All right, so first moment on
the docket. Here is our boy.
Hold on. I almost said.
Ace Shanks saving Luke. Shanks.
From the King of the Sea, or whatever they call it, King of
the East, the. King Lord of the Ocean, I think.

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Lord of the ocean, there we go, sacrificing his arm in the
process. Lord of the Coast, Excuse me, I.
Just remembered, there we go. Yeah, this is, I think this is
this is my hot take on this. I think it's darling.
Anytime I re, I see the animators reference it in OPS or

(06:28):
flashbacks. I feel something.
I think areas of this franchise go harder than this moment in
time. I agree.
In my in my humble opinion. So what are you advocating for?
I think this is either very, very high somebody cried, or low
cries in Spanish. That's great to stand on this

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moment in time. That's so much.
Higher than I thought you were going to do not.
Have a hot take. I have a hot take.
Oh, this, this is, you know, when we talked about this
initially, I, I thought to myself, you know, there's
probably not much that I'm goingto think of as bottom tier or
low tier stuff because a lot of it generally has some some worth

(07:13):
behind it. This, this is this is this
show's version of Sasuke killinghis entire family.
At this point, I, I don't. OK.
Oh. No this.
I don't this this moment doesn'tdo anything for me anymore.
Like me like even at the beginning when you first see it,
it's like, oh shit, that's crazy.
Like it doesn't make me feel much other than damn, this guy

(07:35):
just sacrificed his arm for a kid.
And then you see it a dozen moretimes throughout the show.
I am going to put this at that didn't feel a thing.
Wow. OK, I don't know about all that,
brother. That's that's a Yikes.
All right, so I'm a I'm a split it down the middle, I guess,
because I was going to put this in.
Not sad, but memorable. Well, I think I, I feel like

(07:57):
that's where it lands just by like averaging it.
I mean, it's a memorable moment because it's like the first, I
don't know, big moment of the show, I guess.
So like by definition, I guess that that's, that is where it
should go. But at this point I'm just so
numb to it. I, I, I don't feel anything
anymore for this moment. That's such a Yikes.

(08:19):
I feel so sorry for you now. I still feel for it.
I'm just like, I only feel for it when it's referenced, not
when I'm like exposed to it likelive.
When I'm exposed to a live I'm like, I know what's going to
happen. I know this bit, I've seen it a
few times. Not me, Pam, All right, but it
sounds like it's going in memorable.
All right, put it a memorable file that that's that's already

(08:39):
a bit of an upset. Starting off strong.
Starting off real strong protagonist of the franchise.
His first big emotional moment. Take it or leave it.
Garbage. Garbage.
All right, moving on, who's who's next on the list, Justin?
All right, Next up on the list is US finding out about Queena's

(09:00):
death and Zorro clearly not taking it well.
For for the folks at home, in case it's unclear, I believe
this entire list is going to be in order in the franchise.
So if there is a memorable moment that we don't put on the
tier list and you missed it or we missed it, let us know and
call us filthy animals. We love that engagement.
Blame Justin and you can. Switch on to us at

(09:22):
[e-mail]. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So Kawina, Kawina, I think you know, it's it's so hard, man.
In real life, I think this wouldbe an absolute tragedy.
The anime did it somewhat justice, but I have to be I I
feel like I'm in the same boat as Luffy here.

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Again, the series has moments that go harder or more tragic.
At the end of the day, Zorro only lost a friend, which is
like bad. But then you look at some of the
other things that people have gone through and you're like,
oh, I'm going to say it's not not sad.

(10:08):
I'm going to say low. Somebody cried is where I want
to put. I agree with Brendan mostly.
I don't know if it's going to below somebody cried, but I think
it's a somebody cry tear. Like I definitely cared about
this when it happened and on episode 2 or 3 or whatever.
But as time goes on, one piece low just knows how to make shit

(10:29):
hurt a lot more. And maybe it's because I get
older and I relate to certain things more or whatever the case
is. So yeah, I, I basically agree
with what Brendan said. I, I, I think it belongs in that
same tier. I don't know about low end
though, but we have time to adjust.
I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm looking at like low.
I think I'm at like low, Somebody cried.

(10:51):
Top of not sad, but memorable. Oh boy.
I mean, I heard three. Somebody cried, is all I'm
saying. I think, I think it has to go
when somebody cried just becauseof that.
But like, yeah, I mean, I felt, I felt a little, I felt a little
bad for Zorro in this moment. But the problem, the problem is

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we don't, we don't spend a lot of time here, you know, before
or after. It's just sort, it's almost just
a thing that's mentioned as partof Zorro's shaky.
Not not shaky, but a thin back story, you know, like there's
not a lot to it other than this.And he wants to be the greatest
swordsman and. I think that's a fucking
tragedy, ODA to do something about this.
You could fix this. You could flush my character

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out. Bro same.
But I'm glad we came to it because this is moving on to
someone that I think we might actually have some hot takes
for. Next moment up is during Sanji's
childhood flashback with Zef on that floating rock in the ocean
where Sanji realizes Zef gave him all this food and saw him

(11:56):
starving skin and bones. Yes, so cries in Spanish and I
won't search for anything less. Absolutely I agree be out of
shadow of now cries in Spanish this this upsets.
Me now to this day as an adult. Yes absolutely I I feel trauma
just witnessing it in times. I I think I, I think I mostly

(12:17):
agree that that that feels that feels pretty good.
It's a it's a memorable moment. It's intense.
It's not completely gut wrenching like some stuff is,
but it is definitely a moment where I when revisited, you go,
Oh fuck, man. And then you remember that in
the in the manga he actually eats his leg and not just loses
it in the like they like he doesin the anime.

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And you go oh fuck man fuck. Me brother.
Oh shit. Yeah, thank you for coming to my
Ted Talk. I'm glad we could all agree on
that. Now here's my Ted talk.
Next moment up is us having a flashback, the childhood USOP
taking care of his sick slash dying mother.
And in my heart of hearts, this is if somebody cries in Spanish,

(13:00):
because I'm still angry about this to this day.
It's fuck yeah bro. That's what I'm saying.
Thank you. Thank you.
I can't believe. On this word cries in Spanish
with what it's up against, I canI can understand that, but yes,
I believe this belongs and criesin Spanish.
Christian, your thoughts? He's like, Nah dude.

(13:21):
Do I just maybe I don't have feelings?
My man, my boy, listen to me, listen to me, OK?
Is there a lot of USOP love in my heart and is that biasing me?
Yes. I'm being a shadow of it out.
Anyway, moving on to the point. My boy here took care of his
only next of kin after being abandoned by his other
predominant figure, parental figure, and after finding the

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only way to make his dying mother happy.
And then she passed away. My man doesn't even like I have
a shred of disdain towards the old man that abandoned them and
I, I am just. I'm heartbroken over it.
It breaks my heart all the time period.
Tell him, Brendan, tell him. Thank you.
I told you know, I, I, I love that for you and I love you

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know, for you too, Justin. I I don't know that I have the
same the same, the same love forit.
I this this is this for me. This is this is somebody cried
for me personally, like it's it is it is sad.
And I recognize what you're saying is true in that Usops
back story with his mom and dad especially is is is tough.

(14:33):
Is is real tough for for a youngUSOP there.
But this is another moment whereI'm like, we didn't spend enough
time here for me to get super emotionally attached in this
moment. So I am personally a somebody
cried guy, but alright you. Guys are encounter and somebody
is me and Brendan apparently. Somebody is being I, I request

(14:53):
it must at least go above Zora when this.
Particular Don't worry, it's going in behind.
Yeah, I mean, I'm okay with likebottom of cries in Spanish tier
if it makes you feel better. Fair.
That's a fine, fine gauge here. Brendan already overruled you
via 2:00 to 1:00. We were just being played and
asking for about. Well, I mean, he was ready to
put it in somebody. He was ready to put it in

(15:15):
somebody cried. I was going to agree that above
above Zorro, definitely. Conviction so weak so.
My conviction is weak. I'm willing.
I'm willing to concede. But on on cries in Spanish, but
there's going to be a lot of other shit going on.
This might this might be meta gaming too much, but just
looking at the rest of the fieldman like it's it's it's not

(15:37):
gonna it doesn't hold the candleto to a lot of this.
That that's, see, that's where Ifeel like part of this is going
to be hard to like I am. I'm struggling to have a
normalization ahead of the curvehere because I feel like they
can't all just go in my coke or like some of them have to beat
out the rest. That's where I'm at.

(15:57):
You know what? In fact, I'm I'm changing my
mind. I I knew this and somebody
cried. What I I think I think I needed
and somebody cried. Hello.
How did he just fuck you down from this The.
Fuck just happened The the the the the lethality of all of the
other almost all of the other stuff that's on this tier list.
I'm like, bro, that we're going to have a, we're have a cries in

(16:19):
Spanish in my cocodo that is just a mile long and there's
going to be nothing else on the rest of it.
I'm trying to average them against each other.
At this point, beneficial to go in order from the beginning
because because of that natural distance in time and and
whatever, we're going to have tofeel less emotion toward these
moments. All right, well, I'm just going
to say I've now been 2 to one onChristian side.
It goes above. Zorro and somebody cries.

(16:41):
How the fuck bro? How did we?
I mean, we always, we always talk about adjusting interior
list as we go and then basicallynever do it at the end.
I'm going to I'm doing it on this one.
I hate to see it. It's gonna, it's gonna happen on
this one because we're gonna, we're gonna get to a point where
we have 10 things and crying in Spanish and I'm gonna be like,
bro, I can't, like we can't keepjust throwing stuff in here.

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Maybe that's the point. Maybe that's how much we feel
for those things and it's appropriate, all right?
Maybe that's how good One Piece is, are stretching our hearts
out and squeezing them violently.
Right, this is just Brendan propaganda.
Yeah, yeah. Wait, hold on.
Give him back that 5 bucks. I see you sliding the money.
Give that back. Get.

(17:24):
The shit out of here. Oh, thank you.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, anyway, next moving on moment here is the moment our
our poor gal when I when I talk to your mom's Belle mirror
getting got it by what's this guy's name?
Cody Jones, junior brother. It's not a log I.
Was like I was, I wanted, I wanted to make him fucking

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figure it out. Oh, I'm sorry.
I was just sat here, gone there.I would have sat here for the
rest of the episode. What's the lady's name?
Beltmir, I said her. Yeah, he did.
Say Arlong. You know what's funny?
A spoiler like the the next moment, it involves the walk to
Arlong Park. And I would have said the words
Arlong Park. And I've been like, who's this
Fishman guy? Sorry, what was that guy's name?

(18:08):
I. Mean.
What was that guy's name? I'll be Arlong.
Kills the shark guy. Why was he hanging out in Arlong
Park? The Arlong Park.
The Arlong Park, that's a weird way of saying Hodie.
Such a weird spelling for Hodie Jones.
Anyway, yeah, so this moment is certifiable.
Cries in Spanish, I think. Oh, below Sanji though.

(18:29):
I agree. Oh, very interesting in.
Spanish. That that strikes me as an
interesting take. I want to be honest.
Why is that? Why is that below?
Starving Sanji is. Dude.
There's some abducted mother dying in front of her violently.
She was able to at least make the decision for her children.

(18:53):
Listen, there's a lot of like layers to how I'm gauging this,
too. Is it objectively A terrifyingly
traumatic moment in time? Yes, of course.
So what I'm gauging it on is suffrage.
Bellamere, not me, suffered. Bellamere at least got to choose
her battle here and got to choose her children.
There's AW in there. There's a small W in that.

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And I'm not saying it's like, you know, a healthy W, but it's
AW nonetheless. This feels arbitrary.
Yeah, I, I, I you're not, you'renot.
I'm making your, your system very flawed.
There are two character deaths on this on this list that are
below two people who don't die those.
People, yeah, but suffering sucks.
Yeah, but they they suffered more.
They lost people. They didn't lose.

(19:35):
They didn't lose it. They didn't lose their lives in
this. They just starred for all two
months. Well, so where are you going to
put on that? Are you going to put her even
fucking higher? And I I was thinking my coconut,
to be honest with you. You know, that's crazy because I
feel like I remember you. Your argument against my logic
is Justin, I want the talking stick back.
Your argument against my logic is that oh, oh, Brendan, well,

(19:57):
there are there are dead people on this that are further down
the ladder. Oh, but for some reason that
Bellamere has to has to be belowpeople who have survived or
whatever. And then your argument is, oh,
she died. Therefore she must all the all
go all the way to the top. No, no, no, that's not what your
argument. That's not what I said.
I this, this moment is much sadder than the other two
moments where people died because we spent time with her

(20:18):
and Nami and and and Nojiko on that island watching what
happened. Now, Justin, I'm going to trust
your point. I agree.
At the time I was annoyed with with with Bella mayor and her
decision because she could have lived and been with her, been
with her parents, been with her children and it wouldn't have
had to be sad. I still stand by that.

(20:39):
But that doesn't make it any less sad.
It is still sad that she died and that Nami and Nojiko had to
witness that. I just don't think I can put
this in my Coke row. That's that's where I stand.
I will. I will drop it to cries in
Spanish but I want to above Sanji.
All right, Justin, where do you stand?
I I'm be real. Zev's leading the charge.
He's the gatekeeper. That's crazy.

(21:00):
Oh my Coke broke. Is crazy.
Something about people just starving to death like I that's
they didn't OK fine just people starving in general is this a
thing is a thing that. Just went through torture for
like 2 months and he's like but Bellamyre got shot.
It's not just about that. What are you fucking talking
about? You had a whole, you had a whole

(21:20):
sermon about how Usop's family, family was the worst thing ever.
We spent 10 minutes with on the scene.
You made all of these assumptions about USAF and his
family for for a 5 minute. Season did you did?
Did. Did tear gas come?
Because I think I taste the saltin your tears.
No, no, no, no, no, no. That's the fucking jalapeno
making my asshole spicy put. It where it belongs, Justin.

(21:45):
It's go below Sanji. You guys are fucking beat him
out. You guys are crazy.
My boy, my boy right now, Ape strung together.
I, I hope you guys get fucking flamed in a week when this hits,
when this hits the live, the thethe the podcast feed.
Let it be, let it. Have shit for this one except

(22:06):
with the. Sanji stands will save us.
Yeah, the Sanji stands. Will be out there 'cause they'll
fucking they'll, they'll they'll, they'll do anything for
him. But everyone else will shit on
you and I, I promise you. Alright, anyway, this next one,
Christian, I think this next onewill either surprise you or
it'll be the the victory that you need.
The next moment is the the moment Nami finally asked Luffy

(22:29):
for help right before they walked to our long park.
You know? Luffy offers his hat to Nami for
safekeeping. And it was a hot take, I think.
I feel like as time has gone on my my feelings for this moment
have dwindled. This is feeling like a somebody
cried moment for me. Like hi.
You're, you're fucking crazy. That's crazy.
No, this is my cocoro for me forsure.

(22:50):
This, this is the moment where all the build up from Bellamere
finally reaches a real climax that people can gravitate
towards. Because when when Bellamere
ends, it's just the it's the gateway to more suffrage.
But we haven't even gotten to the really suffering part now.
We spent the rest of her fuckinglife as a prisoner and then all

(23:12):
comes this stretchy motherfuckerright here and goes, don't
worry, I'll take care of it. She she's dumbfounded.
She doesn't feel relief yet until, you know, later she walks
over to the park and sees everyone like struggle with.
This is my coke girl for sure. I agree.
I agree with him. This one's this one's even more
more packable to me than than Bellamere because he's right.
This is the Bellamere's Bellamere's death back story is

(23:33):
the build up to this moment and it's the first like of of all
the moments in one piece. This is like, this is like the
one people point to at the beginning of the series and they
want they they, they go. You want to see some sad ass
shit? Let me get you to this part and
then tell me if you like this show still or not.
Yeah, yeah, this is this is the hard cut that I give people if
I'm like, hey, if you never tried One Piece, get to that

(23:55):
like 38 episode cut off where Nami's stuff ends.
And if you, if you're still not into it, trust me, it's not
going to get, it's not, you're not going to get much better on
it. Like there's a chance, but you
need significant investment. I feel like I don't disagree
with you on paper. It's just like, bro, I'm just
not feeling it right now. I don't, I don't know if that's
just time or or out. Maybe I'm the I am the problem

(24:16):
first of all, but I don't know. Anyway, moving on, our next
scene here is the moment Chopper's reindeer family
brutally kick him out of the theherd or or whatever you call a
group of reindeer. This is this is the cries in
Spanish for me. I I still hate Chopper's dad.
Bottom of the parents to your list.

(24:39):
You you would have thought I'm going to be the contrarian here.
This is not the the part of Chopper's back story that I
think back on as the moment thatI fell in love with this stupid
fucking reindeer. This is just like another, you
know, dime a dozen. Oh, it's another orphan, folks,
I'm going to say. OK, orphan is when your parents

(25:01):
died. This is not that's not that does
not happen when your parents kick you out of the house
brutally. I don't know.
I don't know how to tell you this, Justin.
The vast majority of orphans were given up at birth.
Or. Some other point in life.
What, what, what a statistic to just drop on this podcast?
I. I don't know what else to tell
you. It's just just how it is,

(25:21):
brother. It's just how it is brother.
I am going to be the Super contrarian here I feel and say
this belongs in not sad, but memorable.
You know, I'm I'm, I'm feeling, I'm feeling right down the
middle, to be honest with you. I think it's I think it's a
somebody cried. I don't this is not a cries in

(25:41):
Spanish. There is a moment I agree with
Brendan that is better than thatis more impactful, more
meaningful than this. That is not on this list.
And because it's not on this list, I'm just going to I'm just
going to say it. Well, the other part of his back
story, I mean, it's yeah, it's more or less baked into the next
one where the specific moment I'm talking about is when

(26:02):
Kirilla kicks Chopper out of hishouse.
Like that's that's more sad thanthis.
It's not on this list. And I would put that and cries
in Spanish. This is going to go when
somebody cried for me. Fine, where are we putting it?
I mean, if it if it were up to me, I'd put it at the top, but.
Oh well, say no one. Yeah, I think at the top I think

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I think it. Oh, OK.
I I thought for sure I'd get outout ruled at least on the top
one. I I don't think it belongs at
the top. I think it should go one place
back, but that's just me. Personally, that's that's the
take I expected. Actually, wait, are we
averaging? Hold on, because am I was I did
my did my vote even go into the ring at all?
Oh, no, because I did not say memorable.

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Yeah, Justin said cries in Spanish and then you said
somebody I don't know. Oh man, I think 1 down feels
fair here. I.
Hear you I'm currently debating it hold on which side of the
hill am I lying on I'm going topor bottom here this a lot a lot
of my emotions between these twomoments we're thinking about is
how much I hate their dads and so I'm currently.

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Asking myself, they have a lot. Dad, do I hate more?
Do I hate Reindeer dad or Yasop more in this moment?
Definitely hate reindeer dad. Yeah.
Not only abandoned his kid, but actively made sure the child
knew that he hated him. Yeah.
All right, this is right. I feel worried about this.
Actually, we, we, we can settle on this.
All right, a moment up, coming up next, I don't think any of us

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will disagree on I think. You know, I, I, I feel like that
has already been the case on, onone or two of these and we have
disagreed on almost every turn except for surely.
This is the moment. This is the moment.
We already had one with Nami, but I, you know, I, I have what
I assume is going to be the cakehere, but.
And that moment is here. We look cheering and saying I've

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lived a marvelous life right before he goes boom.
Yeah, I so we're, we've missed 2important moments for me
personally, but I it would be very Drum Island Bloated if we
included them so I'm just going to bake them all into this.
The two moments I'm thinking of are when Hiralook kicks Chopper
out. That's fucking sad.
And then when Choppy comes back with the fucking mushroom to

(28:12):
heal Hiralook, that broken ass boy will always just tear me to
shreds. And then we have here a look
here as he cheers the heavens, knowing these about the dye
after having consumed the deadlypoisonous mushroom soup so he
could just make Chopper happy. I'm going to choose to bake all
of those into this one item. And that therefore makes this

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the top of my Cocorro for me personally as a rugged race
moment in time. I agree, Christian.
What's the idea, Bob, that makesthat makes the three of us?
Oh my God, we did it. Congratulations.
Fantastic. I I've I've never been shy about
my love for for Drama Island andhow much it made me cry all the
time. I would also I would also put on
this list at the risk of making it too bloated like Brendan said

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I would. I would put the moment that the
cherry blossoms are fired off atthe very end of the yard.
Oh. Damn motherfucker, you right,
he's. Right, though that also that
also has a place in my cocodo inin in my own personal tier list,
but because we have to take thattemperature.
It's got good fucking writing, so.
Good moments, so many. Somebody good?

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The arc with the with the fucking the the with waffle.
I yeah, I know. Notice how he's not involved in
any of them, like, like directlyAnyway, that's very true.
You know he's, he's indirectly related to these moments, but
the impact has nothing to do with his presence.
All right, moving on here. Our next moment is our Straw hat

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friends saying goodbye to Vivi in their own unique way at the
end of Alabasta, where the crew raised their their arms with
their back turned to her with their I forgot what they drew on
their hands. Yeah, the axe is one.
It was one part. Hey, this, this, this is how we
know we're not clones of Bon Clay.
But more importantly, this is a sign of our French We're fame.

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Family, I'm just going to lead us off here.
This is another my coconut moment.
Really, really, I would probablyput it personally at the bottom
like it's it's definitely up there at in terms of moments
that this this show does just soexceedingly well.
I'm not like a super fan of Alabast.

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Alabast is great and I I'm not. Also, maybe I should be more
specific and say that like VV isnot my favorite character
either. But this moment for for them
when they have to say goodbye tosomeone and like they meet
someone, they don't end up joining the crew.
And you have this thing that's been been a symbol for them
throughout the entire arc basically paying off in the

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final moments like this. And then the music swells and
all of them are just there. And also it's like one of the
best screenshots for posters andand background screenshot
backgrounds that this show has. And I just, you know, it, it
hits, man. I'm I'm I'm I'm an advocate for
the bottom of my coconut tier. Wow.

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OK. So we're not expecting someone
to aim that high for or or vouchthat hard for this moment going
to be for you. I'm going to use this as an
opportunity here. So listen, all I'm saying is
based on what's left, what is still upcoming and where we've

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placed things, what I'm going tosay is going to sound really
wild. I'm putting this and didn't feel
a thing. Wow, that.
Was very wild. We went to the opposite end of
the spectrum. I I hear everything.
You're secret and I totally agree with you.
I feel like my flow chart right now is trying to gauge what

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makes me weep or what makes me feel like characters are going
through trauma in this moment. This is just a happy time.
It's a great time for all. This isn't like I, I, you're,
you're like valuing the sad stuff over the happy stuff.
You're right, you're absolutely I am creating a bias.
I didn't. My flow chart is is probably

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poor for that exact reason and for that reason again is why I'm
putting it and didn't feel that.That's fucking crazy talk.
That is crazy. I may have shot too high by
putting it in my cocodo but you have shot way lower than I shot
higher I think. Nothing's going and didn't feel
a thing if this doesn't is all I'm saying.
Literally everything else in front of us.
Nothing is landing and didn't feel a thing.
I I would have put two of these things that are already on this

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list and didn't feel a thing if it were up to me.
That's crazy. Hold on, why am I so worried
about failing a tear? Fuck that noise.
That's. True.
You don't have to feel like you have.
To feel it is I was going to sayslid down the middle with

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somebody cried, but I think but hold on.
Let me is this. I feel like this is maybe a not
sad but memorable. Yeah, this is a not sad but
memorable. Damn.
Wow. I kind of I think that.
Means it still gets average to somebody cried.
It still gets average to somebody cry.
I I, you know, I bottom of some somebody cried is like OK for

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me, but I think it's better thanthose three.
But you guys are, you guys have rated it so God damn low.
I'll put it on the top of. Somebody cried, if it really
means that much to you, I think.I think in general, if you're
saying somebody cried, Oh, well,shit, actually.
It could go. Put it.
Above. USAP and Zorro at least put it

(33:41):
above USAP and Zorro. Give him a bone.
Give him a bone. This is definitely bottom at at
most you can maybe persuade me it goes before Zorro.
Put it up, put it above Zorro. Sure.
Wow, this here, this tearless has turned out far more
controversial than I. Than I thought, hey, you know,
and can I tell you Christian Justin, please say the next one.

(34:04):
Thanks, I really need to like. Yeah, so for the exact same
reason, didn't feel a thing. It's a cool moment, people.
It is not. It is not a traumatic sad
moment. It's when Sanji sacrifices
himself as he do to protect yourboy and girl from Ennaru.
I love it. It's a great moment.
It is. Shut up now.

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You're just not Fuck you. I should have said my cocro just
to spite your ad. It's didn't.
Feel a thing because it's just agreat moment in time.
It is not a Oh my God, it just makes my heart yearn.
It just ain't. It ain't.
I'm sorry. I hate to be that guy.
This is this is this is this is neither a a happy or sad cry

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moment. This is just like, oh, he said
he he did the one liner thing, but a little cooler.
Agreed, didn't feel a thing, feels perfect.
Great. Fantastic.
Unlike that last moment, we havea very emotional moment where
Luffy and our boy Usop here fight, and this is basically the
night that Usop. Well, I mean, OK, the the the

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moment in the picture is them fighting on the going Mary.
But I guess because it's such like a a huge moment in of
itself, you could also throw in the emotional weight of the
actual fight they have and then Usop subsequently leaving slash
and kick from the crew. Y'all don't even need to ask me
where I'm putting this. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, y'all really don't need tobring.

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This up but like if you want this is a sad but memorable for
you too. No, not even a little bit.
No, it's. So slow you feel the thing.
Oh, OK, no. It's fuck you.
It's in my cocra. How dare you?
Why? Why are you?
Why are you trying to break my heart like this?
I gravitate to this conflict probably more than I should.

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A&B, more importantly, more thanany other emotional conflict in
this series by a long shot. This is my cocra.
This is my cocra. This is his Roman Empire.
That's what I'm saying, Doug. Yeah, I mean, I I get what
you're saying and it is it is a heart wrencher where we're

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getting this moment of of infighting between members of
the crew we've never seen before.
I just don't have the same attachment to especially Usopp
that you do. And while this.
Which I recognize. This is this is a meaningful
moment. I am a solid This is like a this

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is like a somebody cried moment.Like at best for me.
I don't know, Like I, I, I'm tempted to put it in sad but
memorable. But I, this is like a somebody
cried for me. That's crazy.
That is crazy. I, I, I do not necessarily feel
as emotionally invested to put it in my cocodo, but it's

(36:56):
definitely a cries in Spanish for me where what, what I'm
currently asking myself is do I feel more for it over starving
Zepp and Sanjay? And I don't think I do.
I think it's right. Well, I mean, even if you did, I
feel like if we have to, if we're going to average, as of
right now, I feel like the only the only fair average is to put
it below Bellamere. Is that is that a fair

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assessment of the current scenario?
Because because Christian. Christian wants to rate it lower
than he currently is, I think. I think he's throwing me a bone.
I, I, I, I'm, I'm OK with it going at the bottom of Cries in
Spanish because I, I was, I was willing to put it at the top of
somebody cried because I do think it is better than all of
those other moments. But yeah, this is this is, this

(37:39):
is OK. I can I can let it slip up 1
tier higher for that. Wow.
Then I then I feel like I know where we're going with the next
one. The next moment here is Luffy.
Why am I saying Luffy? Frankie and Usop kind of having
their war words and maybe a little bit of fisticuffs in
Frankie's base where Frankie basically like pulls apart the

(37:59):
going marry to prove to Usopp like you can't fix the ship.
This ship is done. So I think this is the moment
where maybe Usopp starts recognizing the reality of the
merry situation and starts coming to terms with it.
I think this is a crisis Spanishright below, right below the
last one We just ranked of Usoppand Luffy fighting.
I like there is something about Frankie just tearing apart the

(38:22):
ship board by board and Usopp going crazy that like just
sticks with me. I agree with you, I genuinely
do, but for the life of me I feel that this is still probably
it's just not in the same extreme as the Luffy versus Usop

(38:44):
moment. That it's a battle of ideals,
it's a battle of will, it's a battle of worth.
And and Usop finally recognizing, because Frankie was
a stubborn motherfucker, recognizing that the ship really
has lost a significant amount ofworth and that it wasn't all
about him. It's an important moment.
I just don't think by that pointI was in the emotional state to

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be gravitated towards the conflict.
That they, the way they, they, they handled that conflict did
not hit me like Luffy versus Usat.
Therefore, I'm putting it in notsad, but memorable.
What the? Fuck, I know, I know.
Crazy. See, I I, I have, I have takes.
I have takes. And I I agree with this.
One spontaneous look. Look at this right here.

(39:28):
Look at this opinion. Right.
Look at. Look.
At this hot opinion see see everybody I thought this
through. I know I agree.
I I think this is I think this is this is not sad, but
memorable for me. I I like it's.
An important conflict. It is an important USOP needed
to see somehow that the the the like the the fucking fight that

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he had with Luffy was not about his worth.
It was about the fact that Mary was literally fucking falling
apart and he got, we got that here.
Unfortunately, it just isn't like the the tear jerking kind
of conflict that I think we we we need in order to put it
higher in this list. Yeah, I will say I would
advocate for it being above Shanks personally, but.
I'd advocate for it to be above Shanks.

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I would also put it above Shanksfor me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I I would. I would.
But yeah, I I pretty much agree with everything Brennan said.
This is this is, this is good, good stuff.
It's good. It's good watching.
But I'm not sitting there like I, I saw a picture of this and
while I was looking at it beforewe started, I was like, what the
fuck is this? Like what?
I don't even, I really, I reallystruggled for like a couple of

(40:34):
minutes to try and remember whatexactly this moment was.
And I and then when I finally kind of remembered it, I went,
oh, OK, yeah, I guess. I guess this deserves to be
here, kinda. That's wild, but you know that's
so. Fucking for real though, I don't
know how I feel about the next one I'm going to need.
Some help. OK, the next moment here is the

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moment Tom gets arrested by the World Government, and it's right
after Frankie basically denounces his his battle.
Frankie his battle Frankie's Yeah, the the.
Warships that he made. I think in a, in a point to
like, yeah, to, to absorb any ofthe, the guilt that was being
pinned on Tom. And then Tom like punches

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Frankie and then he's also fighting the, the government.
Well, no, Frankie's fighting thegovernment, but also is Tom
because, but then Tom also punches Frankie, which is
actually a really mind blowing thing.
And then Tom gets stabbed because Frankie's did his shit.
And then Tom has his like a one to one with Frankie in the
middle of all this chaos. And he's like, listen to me,
don't you ever say that shit ever again.
If you built something, you better be fucking proud of it.

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I don't care what just happened and this is this.
This is a crisis Spanish moment for me too.
It it's man, I, I, I was not OK during that scene.
I'm I'm going to, I'm going to break your heart here, Justin.
God damn it. This is this is, this is not
sad, but memorable for me. I, I, I do, I agree that the

(42:03):
whole sequence is, is important for the development of Tom and
Frankie and it is impactful. I remember there are in the, in
the scope of things that one piece has made quote wise.
I actually remember Tom's quote as like one of the higher like

(42:24):
ones that I always remember and keep in mind, like if they're
like things you make, you made it.
You got at least love it even ifnobody else does.
I don't really know why that particular quote sticks with me
so hard yet, but it always has ever since then.
And for for that reason I think I have to put it in Sad but

(42:45):
memorable. But I didn't.
It didn't really make me feel exceedingly sad to put it in
like anything higher than that. Justin, I think I am also about
to break your heart because I feel though I feel as though
Christian has articulated my exact thoughts.
This is another stand alone, memorable moment in time.

(43:05):
It is not a moment that I think back and go God damn man, I
can't believe it as I sob in my chair.
It just isn't. It just.
Isn't God damn. It I am also not sad memorable.
Fuck. All right, We're we're putting
it. I'd put it at the top.
So I'd put it at the top. I would put it at the top, yeah.
I'd say this beats out the the Usop Frankie stuff for sure.
All right, next movement moving on.

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We have little little boy Nico Robin finally meeting her mother
Ovia as they're being bombarded by a Buster call and her mom is
basically saying goodbye. I'm just saying what I'm going
to say. This is a somebody pride moment
for me. This is.
Somebody crying just we are on, we are on two different extremes

(43:47):
in the spectrum tonight, brotherI.
Don't know you guys lined up on a few occasions, early on
especially. Somebody cried as her whole
world literally blows up in front of her.
Oh OK hold on. Can I ask a question?
Are we, are we, are we ranking this from Robin's perspective or
Olvia's perspective actually? I don't care.

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Yeah, that's all. He's in my mind is at least to
cries in Spanish. That's that's me.
That's me personally. I, I, I think I got to agree
with him. I I I love everything I look.
This is some of that back story is slightly marred by the fact
that Robin's mom is not like that good of a mom in the 1st

(44:32):
place, but it's still it still does make me feel more things
than your average One Piece. Sad moment.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I, I I'm sorry, Justin.
I have, I have to say, cries in Spanish.
Final answer. Yeah, same here.
Bottom of cries in Spanish. We we meet, we meet in the

(44:54):
middle. I see, I see.
Well, moving on to a moment thatactually made me fucking cry,
It's Robin saying she wants to live finally, right?
We know where this goes. I I feel like this is a
unanimous pick. The only question is where?
It's the top of my coconut. I this this has been edged into
the forefront of my mind. Is it the top?
This is more sad than it's here.What these moments?

(45:17):
Yeah, it's I'm. Look, it hits in Japanese.
It hits in English. I mean, well, yeah, I mean, but
I, I think it hits in English all the time anyway, I think
yeah, doesn't mean anything. I I think, I think a lot of
these moments probably hit in both both languages to be fair.
You know what? I want to hear this in Spanish.
Give me please don't have you open the next half.
No, no, don't do it on your time.
Do it on your time. Get back to the tier list.
I, I think that, yeah, for me, this, this is, this is an easy,

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this is an easy top of my Coke girl for me.
I've they're now admittedly likewith Usopp's, like with Usopp
for, for Brendan, there's a little bit of bias here just
because I like Robin's charactermore.
And I, I the, the both of these moments, it tears me apart
because both of these moments are moments that I will always
go to as some of my favourites in the show.

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Kira Luck blowing himself up andand Robin saying she wants to
live. I think that Robin's back story
leading to this moment has more weight for me personally.
Like by a little bit. Not a large margin, but but a
little bit. Over a little bit.
Over hero luck, so I'm I'm a solid top of the top of the tier

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for me. This, this moment, like I, I, I
remember where I was when I watched this happen.
Like that that's. How just this moment is part of
me. This, this moment was in my
heart, in my soul. This this moment in time was
actually probably this and the USOP fight back in Water Seven

(46:47):
were the 2 instances in time. So like I think I mentioned a
few times, but I'll give a refresher.
Once Upon a time when I was watching One Piece and the dub
was coming out, they were on Water 7 and I had caught up.
I actually skipped the rest of Water 7 and started Thriller
Bark in sub just to just to likeget the knowledge of the
franchise. But I didn't want to spoil the
dub version of Water 7. So I didn't have I didn't know

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what happens at the end of Water7.
I just like accepted that Water 7 was going to end with a happy
ending and have none of the context for how.
And then I started Thriller Bark.
That was that was really what had happened to me back in the
day. And man, I remember where I was
when the Robin episodes came outlike that.
That shit was fire. That was like, I made the best

(47:32):
fucking decision ever. Where were you, Justin?
I was watching Tsunami Bro back in, I don't know what year it
was, unfortunately, but I was watching Tsunami.
I was home and then just, I can't remember the voice
actress's name all of a sudden. Stephanie Young.
Stephanie Young's voice just peeking through my speakers and

(47:52):
Robin's voice cracking as she says, I want to live, take me
with you. And I'm just here.
Like yes, I also want to live. Very touching, I love it.
I was on my bed. Love that for you.
I was on my bed watching on my laptop.
It my story not nearly as as as as memorable as you guys.

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I was in the same place. I watched basically 99% of my
episodes. All right, Justin, what's the
next? Next moment is another gut
wrencher, if you ask me. Yeah.
This, this better be unanimous. And the only fucking outlier I
think is going to be fucking Christian in the back.
He, I, I don't know, he's a wildcard sometimes.
This better be fucking unanimous.

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It is the Viking funeral for thegoing Mary and man I I still
remember some of the words that Luffy said to Mary on on her way
out and then also the Mary speaking back to them.
Bro that that shit. Hurts.
It hurts so good every time. Every time.
So anyway, not to have a memorable thriller.
Wait, what? Motherfucker, is that a real

(49:01):
take? Is that a real take?
No, it's not a real take. Oh, thank God.
Yeah, it's it's my cocodo. I I would I would personally put
it between hero look and not me.Oh I would put it between hero
look and Robin at the very least.

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I'm not like hung up on it. So whatever Justin decides is is
is is fine. I.
Think it's between hero look andRobin.
Oh, excuse me, not me. OK.
Wow, I think it's close. How dare.
You do this to me. How dare you do this to me?
I think I just really vibe with hero looks position in that
moment. It here here a look is is is
just barely holding holding it down.

(49:44):
You know that that moment just means a lot to me that he's his
words echo in my soul. But for an actual, not sad but
memorable moment, nothing happened.
Didn't feel a thing because nothing happened.
That's crazy. Yeah.
I mean, nothing, nothing did happen.
So like, truly, it should be thebottom of it.
Didn't feel a thing because literally nothing happened.
I think it was better than the other one actually.
It's just been at the bottom of didn't feel a thing.

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I agree, I I think it's better than the Sanju thing for sure.
OK, this this one I think might actually predictably like we'll
have different takes on this moment in terms of placement,
but I think we all agree this moment is fucking awful.
It is Brooke being the last surviving member of his crew.
Moments before he dies, he's watching all of his friends go

(50:29):
out one by one, dropping to the fucking floor as they're playing
instruments. And so they are not anymore.
Man, that should suck. And I think personally I would
put it cries in Spanish, maybe just above Nico Robin meeting
her mom or having her military. I agree with your tier, but I

(50:53):
would I put it at the top. I I think, I think, I think
Brooke watching all of his friends die as they play Binks's
brew for the last time is very easily better than all of the
rest of that. I don't think it's better than
the stuff that's in Cocono, but it's kind of close.
I don't know. I think it's very close.

(51:13):
I, you could persuade me to put it in my Coker.
In fact, I, I, I feel like I've said this on several spoiler
casts. So spoiler Christian I, we,
we've, we've like debated like who has the saddest back story
or who who has like the most awful back story?
I've said on more than one occasion I think me personally,
Robin has at least at first glance, the saddest back story

(51:35):
of the main line Straw Hat crew members.
However, I think Brooke's back story would just suck the most.
But I still think Robbins makes me cry more.
That being said, it's hard man. I could put him in my cocoro, at
the bottom of my cocoro, or at the top of cries in Spanish, but
I think he belongs in one of thetwo.

(51:56):
Yeah. Yeah, I think he deserves to be
the gatekeeper of my cocoro by sitting at the top of.
Christ, I'm going to, I'm going to say something that I don't
know if it's going to be like a,if it's going to be a bad take
or not. I'm kind of just thinking about
it for the first time since we've got all of this laid out
in front of us. I, I think, I think Nami's.
I think Nami's moment carries more weight just because it was

(52:19):
the first moment of the series that this happens.
I think that. I don't think Brooks moment.
I don't think you're wrong for that.
I think Brooks moment is objectively sadder and more
emotional than than Nami's moment is.
Nami's moment just carries more weight because it's the
beginning of the series. I don't know about more
emotional. I think it depends.
Emotional isn't a watcher or emotional is like somebody who's

(52:42):
going through the shit. I would say, I would say for
someone going through it, for sure, yes.
The watcher depends on the person.
Correct. That's, that's where I stand
too. That's why I feel like they're,
they're, they're they're gatekeeping each other.
I I could put them on either side, either side of the same
coin. Yeah.

(53:03):
I I think we've basically just argued ourselves into a swap
here. Brooke bumps up 1 and Nami bumps
down 1. Hold.
On I didn't. I wasn't saying all that.
I don't hate this though, Oh my God.
He might hate it. I hate it a little bit.
I hate it a little bit. You hate it because it's the

(53:25):
beginning of the show. You've got all this nostalgia
glasses for it. Brother, it's it's OK to have a
little bit of nostalgia glasses.Why is that a problem?
I'm. Ranking it all based on the
writing that we have been exposed to at its current basis.
And I'm like, wow, that's reallyimpressive that you, you wrote
something that made me feel likethat in some of your earliest
points in your work. I really respect that.

(53:45):
I'll give it a couple extra points, but then why not?
That's fine. That's that, that's, that's.
I'm just, I'm just pointing it out.
I'm making it. I'm making it known.
It ain't wrong ain't wrong. I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm sad.
I don't think, I don't think it should be in my in in cries in
Spanish. I think it objectively belongs
in my cocoro. But I'll, I'll, I'll sit back if
we're, if we're, if we're committed to this, I'll sit

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back. We got, we got what, 7 more
things to go through? I think my problem is I I can I
can be persuaded which with whatever which McCall it tear is
going to be in, but if it's going to be in cries in Spanish,
something about it being above starving Zef and Sanji does not

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sit right with me. I I think I permanently settled
in on Zef and Sanji being the top of cries in.
Spanish generally, no, they can't.
It can't. It can't.
No, Brooke. Brooke clears.
Brooke clears them. I'm sorry.
No, he's talking. He's talking about Nami.
Oh, Nami clears that for sure. She she suffered.
Here I got to move it. One down.

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No, you're insane. Or move it back up here.
I. I don't.
I don't understand that doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
No, Yeah, below, below. Zef and Sanji is crazy.
I I, I, I I can leave it like this.
Just put it. At the top, put it at the top of
cries and span. Just do it.
Just do it. Just do it.

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Just kill him. Just kill him and Breton,
Missouri. Do it.
Do it, do it. No thank.
You just let it happen. Thank you feel feel that the
power surge through you. Take those nostalgic glasses off
and see the world for what it is.

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All right, Justice, what's next?Crying.
Change your mind. Another man in tears in the
shambles Our our moment here is Luffy just groveling in the
ground at Bartolomeu Kuma's feetas Kuma just bops all of his
friends away. And I think you can't really see
in this image, and by really I mean not at all, but I believe
the line that Luffy's saying here is I couldn't save a single

(55:53):
one of my friends or something along those lines.
Yes, this shit is my coke girl for me.
I the waves fucking Luffy just like just he's just rolling in
the dirt because he's so frustrated he doesn't know what
to do with himself or the situation.
So there's nothing in my cocodo moment now.
It's just not a matter of where.What's the you Christian?
Well, I'm, I'm doing, I'm doing that Medicaid thing again where

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I'm looking at the rest of it and going like, damn, does it
how much does it weigh against what we have already and what
the rest of the field looks like?
And I think that man, I, I thinkyou want.
Me to be the contrarian first, Ithink it's top of somebody cried
oh. Really, I was, I, I, I was going

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to say cries in Spanish and put it like, I don't know, somewhere
in the middle, but I. I think I am also meta gaming
and potentially too hard but I don't care because I'm already
in too deep. I think it's top of somebody
cried only because my man is suffering, but like he only
suffers for like an afternoon, like he'll be fine.

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What do you mean? He landed at Amazon Lily and
then he was like how well I got.I guess I got to get back to
Sabodi. We'll we'll all meet up together
soon. I'm sure, like you, you flinch.
Yeah, but for those couple of moments, it was the worst shit
of his life ever. I agree.
I don't, I don't disagree. Again, I'm just listen, we're,
we're, we're playing. We're so hard to be clear.

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What the fuck? I'll put in a bottom of cries in
Spanish before you hurt me anymore.
I. Think I know which tear is going
to have a lot of answers. Damn, yeah, I'm like still
debating out of Brett. Brendan almost brings up a like
semi decent point where I'm likeI'm like I'm like I'm like re
evaluating to is that is that sadder than Nico Robin and her

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and his mom, his mom, her mom's moment.
The worst day of my life. I I'm going to say, do you know,
like like Brendan ripping the Band-Aid off with Nami?
I'm going to say, I'm going to say put it at the top of
somebody cried for me. You people.
My God, we did it. We did it.

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You fucking suck. I'm sorry, Justin.
I I'm sorry I had to do it to you.
Well. No, I gotta ask myself what
happens next? The next moment here is Ace dies
and Luffy Luffy's. Psyche breaks.
Well, that's that's obviously mycocoro.
Cries in Spanish, but like the one before.
See obviously. But I don't think we're all
going to agree with this. I don't know that's.

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That is a permanent trauma for the remainder of your existence.
Being separated from your friends for an afternoon is not
that big of a deal. It was like 2 years, going to be
an afternoon. Hold on.
Yeah, let's. Well, in Luffy's mind it was an
afternoon and then he was like, well I guess we should do 2
years. Yeah, after a whole war after

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this happens, then they decide on on two years.
All right, strike, strike my last like 2 minutes from the
record. I I'll stand by everything else
I said prior, but anyway, movingback to this moment in time.
Oh boy. Yes, Luffy losing a brother is
traumatic and horrifying. It belongs in my cocro.

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Cries in Spanish. I I don't even care where,
honestly, it's somewhere it's. Saying two different tiers,
correct? Oh, OK.
He's saying he he will not settle for anything less.
Oh yeah, that that's correct. That's that's fine.
I mean, I I think that this is personally, this is a cries in
Spanish moment. I agree and I would I would put

(59:34):
it between Nami and Zeph. Do I?
Agree with that. I respect that.
I respect that take. Fuck it, guess here we.
Go now I just want to point out that Justin confidently said
cries in Spanish so just to justto make sure that everyone at
home is aware of his flow chart he's spine with having an actual
blood relative die right in front of him brutally before

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being separated from his friendsafter a long night out that's.
Well, that's. His definition?
Of night out. Well, I'll say it like this.
It's clearly a numbers game. One loss compared to seven.
You know, like the math is math thing.
But it's. Like not really a loss though.

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It's more just like a well, see you again you.
Want to play? You want to play the numbers
game? He knew Ace for a lot longer
than those people on his crew. Just saying.
Just saying. I don't know, man.
I I think I think time and repetition have numbed me to to
Ace's death. Also maybe all the memes.
Yikes. Welcome to Shanks for me, I I

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person I I'm gonna can I be honest with you?
I I agree that for for me, like in reality, this is this is
probably a somebody cried moment.
Like I'm I'm putting it in criesin Spanish tear because I
recognize the emotional weight of this in regard to the show
and Luffy, but like me as a viewer, this was.
You were mad. This.
Was this was a this was a somebody cried moment.

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You were like, you and Devin were like, why the fuck do you
do that? That was dumb.
Yeah, I do remember the name I. Also I also just like didn't
care that much for Ace as a character in general.
Like he was, he was the Big Brother.
He. Was that?
I do remember thinking that was.Crazy and and he took care of
his little bro when he could, but you know, I don't I don't
have the same attachment to Ace that a lot of people did.
So what? Moving on.
I was a little attached. Moving on to Whitebeard's death.

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And that man died on his feet. Is there an echo in here?
Because once again, it's not sad, but memorable.
Because it's it's not sad. He's just a really fucking cool
guy. I.
Agree. I agree this is this is top of
the list for me. Not not sad, but memorable.
Like for sure. Yeah, nobody nobody doing it
like white beard. No one never did.

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No one ever will. As far as I know, 100%.
White Beard went out of this world exactly the way he wanted.
As a fucking father. I.
Thought I was going to say I love that game man.
Which was Stan? Well, that maybe that too.
Standing in with like 500 woundson him.
What the hell happened and? What was happening inside the
womb? He was fighting for his life.

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He's like. What you didn't know is I had a
twin and only one of us were gonna.
Make it out. There's a couple of different
animal species that this happens.
I don't know which one, I don't remember off the top of my head
which they are, but they just like when they're tiny little
amoeba sized children, they haveto fight for their life in
mama's marsupial pouch or whatever.
I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure baby Kangaroos

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do this, but I'm also not, I'm not entirely confident in that.
I know that there are animal species out there like fish and
stuff like that, but maybe even Gators.
Do Gators do this? Might be Gators too, I don't
know. Somebody out there knows.
Crazy. Yeah, not sad.
Memorable. Crazy.
Memorable. Super Peak High supplies, just
not sex. I'm not sad.
I mean I'm sad. Wipe your diet or bro.

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He went out like a champ. Also he would he was going out
eventually. That man was on dialysis and
shit, he was a champ. Not a single wound on his.
Back like like even in this image we we just have like 7
text bubbles of the other narrator talking about how
fucking cool he was. Talking about his fucking like
500 stab wounds, 200 gunshot wounds, 2 magma holes and his.
Gun stabs 55 gunshots, 55 animals.

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And a piece was a piece of his face missing courtesy of Akainu,
which I don't know why the fucking anime nerfed right?
I think that was dumb. Cowards, that's why.
Cowards. I I need to chime in on this
next one. Justin, please inform the
audience what they are. In the next one it is De Dawn
crying up as well. In this moment she finds out

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that Ace dies, but more importantly she's confronting
Garp. Garp also rides on the island
and she's given him a what's forit beating him up.
I bro I know this is you have talking sick but I'm taking it.
Though go ahead please, please. De dawn, de dawn all of her
lines echoed and she just she just narrated my thoughts bro.
I too was instilled mad at Garp.I too was I Amanda Dawn.

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De Dawn was me, all right. I've never felt more seen by a
character before in my life. The Dawn is me.
That that moment like that, thatfucking I made like a reel about
this fucking two years ago. However long it's been.
I still think about that sometimes.
I still think about the Dawn just beating the shit out of the
garb as garbage's sister and takes it like a fucking wimp and
coward he is because he's like, Oh yeah, I am the bad guy.

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Aren't like, no, fuck you. You get to have a throw, throw a
self pity party. Fuck you.
So I, I, I echo some thoughts. I, I don't, I don't necessarily
echo the part about, about hating Garp nearly as much as
you. I think that's all your own.
But what I do care about is thatthis is really just the
culmination of a mother who has already grieved over one of her

(01:04:49):
children no longer being with usin Saba, which obviously comes
back to life later, which is itsown fucking.
Like, you know, Shoehorn didn't plot plot fucking garbage later.
But in my mind, this is a woman who raised three children, who
is now who's now lost a second child and is and recognizes that
their last child will be forevertraumatized for the rest of the

(01:05:11):
time that they have on this earth if they ever come back
around in. And, and for that reason,
because I only, I recognize Adonas as the mother of these three
children, She is my cocoro. Whether it be at the bottom,
that's fair. But it is my cocoro.
That's my cocoro right there. Yeah.
I I think I concur. I I was, I was bordering between

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cocodo and Spanish tier. I think at the end of the day, I
think at the end of the day, it's bottom of cocodo for me.
I think I enjoy this scene for what Brendan said and all of the
surrounding. I think I'm like got a happy
medium between you 2 where I also you end up resenting Garp

(01:05:54):
for for this moment as part of it.
And Dadon is just completely shattered and just just reeling
at at what happened. And up to this point, she'd put
on somewhat of a brave face. But then when faced with and
knowing that he didn't do anything, it just it, yeah, it's
it's terrible. And she has Luffy on the brain

(01:06:15):
the entire time and how he's going through it.
I I say bottom of cocodo. Respect.
Moving on to our next moment here it is basically after all
of this Marine Ford stuff is going down basically up before
time skip Luffy just kind of he he comes back from his mental

(01:06:37):
break of oh shit my brother saidoh shit my friends are gone oh
fuck what do I do and Jim B has to talk him down also.
I got to use about them so badlyand I'm so sorry.
Wait a minute, that's my bit. OK, All right.
Goodbye, Justin. Enjoy.
All right. OK, while he's gone, how can we
make him upset the most? I just, I so wish I had control
of the tier list this time because I would just, I would

(01:06:58):
just shuffle so many things downto to didn't feel a thing.
It's so rude. It's so rude, you know?
Let's this, this is Loopy's time, you know?
This is tough because I feel like the anime does a lot of
heavy lifting in this moment in time.
I feel the weight of Ace dying in front of him is objectively A
sadder moment in time than what is happening here.

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But the anime does a really, really good job at making me
believe that his entire being isbeing literally clouded in grief
and that he might not make it out.
And there's a lot to be said forthat if from like an emotional
reflection perspective, because there are things that dwell with
you that might make you permanently go the wrong

(01:07:45):
direction that you just can't shake.
But I still feel like my flow chart, like he's OK here.
He's just going through. He's just going through the five
stages of grief. I think this is not sad, but
memorable. Oh wow, that went way farther

(01:08:05):
down than I expected you to say.Yes.
I. I I'm even surprising myself.
I'm surprising myself. Yeah, it sounds like you.
It sounds like you talked yourself out of, you know.
Maybe, maybe, maybe top of somebody cried.
Maybe top, bottom of somebody cried bottom of somebody.
No, I. Actually, I, I like that.

(01:08:26):
I I think bottom of somebody cried feels better for me now in
my heart of hearts. Bottom of somebody cried.
I can't I can't agree with that.I I agree with somebody cried,
but I would probably that I I think I vibe more with that than
than him losing the homies during the long night out like

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this. This, this is he's being, he's
being ripped into and just the fabric of his, the fabric of
everything he thought about himself is just gone.
Like beyond beyond the part where like this is this is about
losing Ace, but this is also about not being able to protect
the people that he loves. And right now it's like a
combination of having lost Ace and he's in this moment thinking

(01:09:10):
or thinking about just the, the fact that he just feels
worthless and again, wasn't ableto protect people.
And then obviously Jinbei goes like, well, your, your other
friends are still alive and you can go on living for them.
And then it becomes a more stabilizing moment for him.
But up until that point, like he's, he's, he's going through
it all over again like he did for Ace.

(01:09:31):
I agree that objectively Ace dying in front of him like that
is a sadder moment in general. I personally personally vibe
with this moment more than Ace dying, as I've already said that
I would put Ace and somebody cried, but going off of this
tier list, I would probably put this moment, I'd probably put it

(01:09:53):
at the top of somebody cried if it if I if I had my way, I it
would be somewhere and cries in Spanish, But I think top of
somebody cried feels like a better overall average of
positioning for it. I, I could, I honestly, I might
have been excessively critical for the sake of being
contrarian. I, I, I think you've, you've
swayed me a little bit. Maybe, maybe top of somebody

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cries is a little bit more appropriate all.
Right. What did I miss?
Right now we we have decided topof somebody cried.
Where do you stand? Well, right now I can't stand
because everything. Hurts.
Was that good, huh? Yikes.
Oh, I wish it was. Yeah, fuck it sounds good to me.

(01:10:36):
Love that love that. Love that we've done it.
We're we're good at this. We're amazing.
Moving on, we have the moment Sabo died tragically in a attack
from a celestial dragon. Those bastards drowned at sea,
never to be seen again. This this is probably going to
come as a controversy for me. I.

(01:10:59):
Don't know. This I think is a.
Just say it. Just say it.
We we know why. We know why.
I mean, I it like in my heart ofhearts, I think this isn't I
think this is a didn't feel a thing moment, but.
It's. Probably it's probably more more
like a not sad but memorable, I guess, because I feel I feel

(01:11:22):
more for this moment than I do about like Shanks, I guess, but
Shanks is tired. He's he's in sad but memorable.
So. You also didn't believe for a
single second that Saba. Was that is also true.
I that's what I thought. We were going for.
That is also part of this is that I I didn't really ever
think that Saba was was dead after after this moment.

(01:11:45):
I think a you universal feeling in the fandom is the disbelief
in Sabo's demise in this moment in time.
Yeah, I I have to RIP the Band-Aid.
This is a didn't feel a thing for me.
I think. That's crazy, I didn't.
Expect that I listen it it's I know what it tries to accomplish

(01:12:07):
and I do think it still accomplishes it it show it tries
to demonstrate that Luffy has been here before that it's still
an important time. It's Deja vu.
It's it's hey, he, he got out ofthe, the, the the dark place
once, but Ace was still around to protect him.
How's he going to do it with without an Ace?
And thankfully he's got Jinbei in this moment in time, but he's
not going to have Jinbei forevereither way.
Blah blah blah blah. I know narratively what it's

(01:12:28):
trying to accomplish, but it loses a lot of it because ODA
can't fucking help himself. But to also simultaneously
unkill people all the time. This is a didn't feel, Yeah.
Wow, I, I, I, I guess we just put it and didn't feel the

(01:12:52):
thing. Well, what's your what's your
take? I'm curious.
I I was also a sad but, or excuse me, not sad, but
memorable because I don't remember what I felt the first
time watching it, because I think the first time I watched
it was actually with this podcast and I already knew that
Sabol and I was just trying to underwell, you know, deflect.

(01:13:12):
So you know what? You see that that raises a good
point too. You know, maybe I'm, maybe I'm
thinking too hard. You know, what makes a lot of
like the really high moments of this series that are sad
worthwhile is that I, I, I know what happens and it's still
fucking slaps. I know Sabo survives and this
moment in time loses 90% of its weight.

(01:13:34):
All right, sounds like it's didn't feel a thing.
Yeah, but he's going below Zor. You know, I can actually agree
with that, I think. Oh, I cannot.
He's as you could. Agree.
I think I. Think that I think I'm fine with
that. Yes, Sabo's dead body has to
separate Zorro and Sanji from getting to intimate, you know
right? Just leaving.
Leaving room for the Holy Spirit.

(01:13:54):
Yeah, leave room for for Jesus. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And our last moment here to round us out is the moment young
Sabo reads the Violators. Young.
Ace, goddammit. The moment young Ace reads the
letter, young Sabo wrote as I think, what was it, Sabo?

(01:14:15):
Yeah, this is right before Sabo gets on the boat to like, run
away and be free free, but obviously hasn't happened that
way. And Sabo writes.
The letter yeah, Ace understandsthat Sabo is dead in this moment
and Sabo writes him a letter. I think it was meant for him and
Luffy, or maybe just him. And I tried getting some quotes
from this letter and unfortunately I couldn't find
anything that was written down online.
I don't have to go watching enough time for that.

(01:14:36):
But Sabo signs off the letter talking about Luffy and he tells
Ace like, hey, you know, he, he's my little brother, so take
care of him. And though that line was
actually repeated both, you know, both in the manga and in
the anime when Ace meets the Straw Hats in Alabasta, which is

(01:14:57):
a pretty neat. Very neat detail.
This is a this is a cries in Spanish moment for me because I
remember being really broken up about this.
Christian. I think not sad, but normally.

(01:15:18):
Whoa, you know Justin, I hate todo it to you.
I'm also in kind of not sad but memorable.
But can I? The the problem is the problem
is too much of it works only knowing that.
Sorry. Only if Sabo is actually giving
his final words to Ace, which I guess you can argue he is.

(01:15:39):
He's giving his final words to Ace.
Technically he never talked to Ace ever again after this.
But like, I feel for this more than Sabo's actual demise, which
is probably kind of, I've been over there because like I can, I
can, there's more to relate to here.
There's there's more to like sink my teeth into here.
There's a person that also goes a little hollow.
Yes, it gets a little hollow because of the reality of the

(01:16:02):
circumstances. For that reason, I'm going to
put this in, somebody cried. Actually bottom of somebody
cried. That's where I want it.
That's where me personally wantsthis.
Yeah, that's I'm fine there. All right, well.
We did it. We, we, we managed to to balance
this out a little better than I thought we would.

(01:16:23):
Actually a lot more balance thanI expected.
I think, I think we, we played the meta game.
We played the meta game and and did it fairly well I think.
I agree, I agree. I actually looking at it, I I
know we had some takes. I know we like there.
Were some takes. Blood was pumping, people were
heated. I think.
I think this is right. I really do.

(01:16:45):
Well, no, there's a couple of things.
I know I would definitely changea bunch of things, but I think
on the whole, like I'm I'm OK. I wouldn't change that much.
I mean that's I've changed a lotI.
Can I can think of like 3 or 4 that I would probably change,
yeah. There's really only two I would
like really want to change, but no, I think this is good.

(01:17:06):
This is good, Justin. Thank you so much for for
putting this together. You did.
You did a great job buddy. Hi, Captain.
You're the best Very nice. Another another tier list in the
books. I like it.
This is a good one tier list. This is a good one for the for
the moment I. I was a little skeptic of this
one going into the night. I'm going to be totally honest.
I'm like, either we're just going to like fucking argue all

(01:17:27):
night or there's going to be no takes.
I think. I think we've found a middle
ground. We did.
Incredible. But moving on we do have a fan
mail this week because my Co host fucking suck.
I'm making up for it. So we have an e-mail.
Here, give it to us last week. You half X.
We're not doing this again. This email's from Alex, Alex

(01:17:48):
writes. Hey guys, I'm Alex.
Been listening for a while now. Just catching up.
Just catching UPS. Excuse me, are you OK?
Let me start. No, I'm not.
UE waha waha wing bang. Hey guys I'm Alex been listening
for a while now just catching upsoon.

(01:18:09):
I was listening to the episodes of Big mom's back story and it
came up with the theory. Do you think the straw hats if
they ever make gets out bath do you think they will survive the
15 day fasting or fail like Big mom did and face the
consequences like she did? I'm only caught up on the anime
so I don't know yet and I would love to hear your thoughts on
this. So in a world where the straw

(01:18:30):
hats go to L bath and they somehow end up landing in the
same time period of whatever this festival the giants
celebrate where they fast for 15days.
Do you think the Straw Hats would join them in the fast or
they absolutely breaking the rule and then suffering the
wrath of the giants? I mean, I, I feel like I have

(01:18:52):
the answer like in like I in my heart of hearts, I know what the
answer to this question. Is uh huh.
Should I continue with anyone? Else, I think that I think
there's no shot Luffy makes it. That's what that that's a given.
I think there's no way without incentive Zorro makes it.

(01:19:12):
I think I. Think Zorro is.
Interesting. Doesn't include alcohol, you
just. Give him alcohol.
Yeah, just give him alcohol. I I think that that's fine.
It it's just as fast. You just don't have to eat.
All right, maybe he could survive.
Alcohol it's it seems like a spiritually relevant thing for
the giants and and Zorro's agnostic at best.
I. And I feel like he wouldn't

(01:19:33):
participate. If you just, if you just tell
Zorro that at the end of this he's going to be stronger, then
he then he's going to participate like the religious
part doesn't. Matter whisper us sweet.
Nothing in his ear like, oh, yeah, no, this is really good
meditation strategy, Zorro. Like, you're going to be like
really strong mentally when you finish this.
Like, only the strongest people can do this.
He'd be like, well, I am the strongest so obviously I can do

(01:19:55):
it. Yeah, I think if they're doing
this as a group, largely most ofthem can tolerate it.
But if they have to account for Luffy then the whole group is
going to fail. I agree with that.
In fact, I'm going to take it a step further in my mind.
This this plot, I can see the plot I see, I see it playing

(01:20:16):
out. This this bit is they're on day
four of the fast and they're allhaving like a really bad time.
They're like, oh, man, this is actually kind of tough.
Like maybe we shouldn't be doingthis the whole time.
And and like, you know, Zorro's like, I don't know, guys, I'm
doing OK. And then like, Nami's like, oh,
OK, Zorro. And then for whatever reason,
like Luffy is like, totally fucking fine.

(01:20:36):
And then everyone's like, how would the fuck are you OK?
Like, we expected you to be the worst.
And then it turned out that, like, Luffy had just been eating
all of the food storages. And then like one giant goes
into the stockpile room and realizes that all of the food
has already been eaten, the foodthat they were saving for after
the fast. Like, that's, that's what would
happen. Yeah.

(01:20:56):
Done. Bit bit closed.
Bit closed. Well, Alex, I hope that answers
your question. Thanks for the.
Question you could you could putthrow throw something in the
ring if you if you have any. No, I think.
You nailed it. I think that's exactly what
happens. Yes.
And I hope for the Giants and the Straw Hats that the Straw
Hats have better timing than that.
If if they. Yeah, he's going.

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Straight to jail. Don't pass Go.
And then all the other all the other straw hats are like, we're
so sorry. Yes, we know he deserves jail.
We How do we make this up to? You.
Yeah, please take him in fact. Please just take him, we can't
handle it. Anymore, can we?
Maybe we just have the Straw Hats arrive on a new island in a
new Kingdom and don't immediately piss somebody off.

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Impossible. Yeah, not possible.
You clickbait YouTube headline. Straw Hat challenge?
Impossible. Yeah.
Actually cool. Thank you again for the e-mail.
Great question. What are you now?
Well, I think we close out. Normally normally I'd normally
I'd go back to the bit from the start of the episode but you

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decided to Co-op that about 20 minutes ago.
So yeah that did happen. Honestly I I don't even know
what to do with myself at this point.
Don't even remember well. We didn't.
We didn't even say like anythingabout the social plugs or
nothing. Follow us on Instagram and
TikTok at Pandaside. Making sure.
You can e-mail us like shit. What was the emailer's name

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again? Alex.
Alex I was going to say Zach, but I knew that wasn't right.
Alex, thank you can e-mail us like Alex at [e-mail].
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definitely going to want to talkabout what we did here tonight
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This one might hit different than even the parents tier list,
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Producer shout outs Taco notes Me rabbit.
Yes, yes, that producer shout outs.
Very nice. And you too, could become a
producer for the Lolo. I'm not.
I mean, you could have in the past, but currently we're
reworking the the the system again, so.
Be like that. We are.
It's going to be, it's going to be cool though.
Look, be on the lookout for that.
That's important. Yeah.

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All right. All right.
Well, I I really need to go brush my hands because I don't
want to get jalapeno on my eyeballs again so.
Well, I mean, that's, I'm just going to that is, that is fair.
But you know, you might have to go a little farther than you
thought, because I also broke all of the faucets in this
building and I took all the soapwith me too.

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Dude, are you OK? Like what happened?
It's my villain arc, baby. It's not over yet until we start
Wano. So now I'm doubling down.
I'm tripling down. These are homegrown jalapenos
too, so they hit even different.Nerve.
Oh, for fuck sakes. All right.
Well, thank you. Christian, I think you slipped a
jalapeno in my food or somethingbecause my butt hole was burning

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during that bathroom break. OK, I I need to get out of here
before anything it's. Going to be a lot about what?
Is about to happen. Bye everybody.
Stay safe out there kids. Don't touch the jalapenos.
Or do.