Ep 184 - Bridging Realms: Unlocking Telepathy, Healing, and Inner Power - One World in a New World - Apocalyptic Chats

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human experience. Terry, it's so great to have you
here. Thank you for coming on with
this and being able to discuss how you bridge the inner and
outer worlds with your cowgirl shamanistic spirit.
And probably much more than thatthat we're going to dive into.
Thanks so much. Thank you for having me, it's

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really great to be here. I am really curious.
We talk about, you know, this inner and outer reality and the
fact that we live in two worlds,inner and outer, and we rarely
bridge those two. And now in these coming years,
and especially during this period post COVID, it feels like

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those worlds are bridging for many.
And so we're attempting to create some conversations that
help others feel a little safer and secure in their own nuances
in that. So where did you first?
I know you've been really in touch and and you're not only

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the, the shaman, you're sensitive, intuitive medium at
times and and probably quite rare in that instance.
And how did you first get in touch with your inner awareness,
the interconnectedness, and whatwas that like?
It was really bizarre, but in 1990, I was doing a horseback
therapy program with disabled kids and I picked a kid up out

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of his wheelchair and I put him on the back of one of my horses
and he looked at me and said, Ouch, I have a cramp in my hip.
If you know, if you've ever worked with CP kids, that's
pretty normal. So I looked at him and I said,
here, sit this way, they'll takethe cramp out.
And he said, hey, you can hear me.
I said, well, of course I can hear you.
It didn't dawn on me at the timethat he was completely non
verbal. So we went about doing our

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thing. We were doing vaulting, which is
gymnastics on horseback. So you can use the whole horse
as a therapy tool. Sure.
And him and I were talking aboutthe school play and his little
girlfriend and all kinds of things that had nothing to do
with the horseback therapy program.
So when we were done, I took himoff the horse and put him back
in his wheelchair and he went back to class because we

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actually did the program at the schools.
And the gal that was helping me,she just looked at me.
She said, boy, he's sure talkinggreat.
And I and I looked at her and I said, well, you know, he's very
bright. Just because he has CP doesn't
necessarily mean he has any cognitive issues, she said.
Terry, he didn't say a word. He can't remember.

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And if I was a horse, I would have done a buck fart snort all
at the same time because when they're spooked, that's what
they do. It's called a buck fart snort.
And I know I heard him. And she said, I know you heard
him. So I went into the classroom and
they put a band around his head that had a pointer attached to
it and he had typed out on his computer.
Horse lady can hear me. They didn't remember my name,

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but they knew that I was the horse lady.
So then I stood there totally aware that him and I were having
a conversation mentally, you know, totally telepathically.
So I went back outside and I told her what had happened in
the classroom. And just very matter of fact,
she said, well, you ought to learn to communicate with the
horses because all animals are telepathic.
And then wouldn't that make yourprogram really safe?

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And I went, Oh my goodness, yeah, sure would.
What a great idea, huh? Yeah.
What an idea. So that was that was back in
1990s. So that was my first, what I
would call my opening. And there were like no books
available at the time and how todo this.
There was like Pete Sanders bookYou are Psychic, which I hate
that word. And then there was Henry Blake's

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book Talking with Horses that really talked more about body
language. It wasn't about, you know,
saying they're telepathic. And then there was another gal's
book called Animal Talk and but there there was no method to
teach you how to do it in that book.
I just kept scratching my head going this doesn't make any
sense so. Try this.
Well, that didn't work. Let's try this.

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Exactly. Nobody gets the most important
part about learning this, which is the timing.
Nobody gets it, and I don't knowanybody that teaches it, but
it's as you're starting to form a mental question to guides, to
dead people, to animals. It's all the same as you're just
starting. You've got the answer that fast.

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Exactly. Exactly.
You know, it's funny, you know, we got 70 thousand thoughts a
day and according to Urantia book or the speed of thought is
841 trillion miles per second. So that's that's even faster
than the snap. And you know, as you're talking
about this, it took me back to my college days.

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And when I got blown open psychically, I agree, not the
best term. Intuitively, highly sensitively.
And I was working in the cafeteria and I was walking back
from the cafeteria to my dorm. And as I passed by students, I
could hear you, you, you know, all of these self deprecating

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rants starting with you. And I thought they were all
talking to me. And I'm not realizing what was
happening. I'm 18, right?
And so I go back to my dorm roomand lock myself in for a couple
of days. Don't come out because I have no
idea what's going on. And then a friend of mine who
had been very helpful previous shows up, said where you been?

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And I told him what happened. And he says, well, was that your
voice or others? And I realized it was others.
I'm like oh OK, not. About you.
It was amazing, it. And so he and I and another
woman worked together for the rest of that year, developing

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these abilities and and getting others around campus to gather
and we would experiment. The following year he was gone
2000 miles up into Canada. I was in Muncie, IN and this
woman was in Santa Barbara at a Krishna camp, unbeknownst to us.
So he's supposed to come back for winter quarter.

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Don't know where she's at. I meditate 1 evening.
I I go into that zone, picture his face, look into his eyes and
I I grab his shoulders and standhim up inside my vision, right?
Sure. And we talk and I see Carolyn
come into it. And so we have this conversation
throughout the duration of the song I was listening to.

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And at the end of it, I come back following week, I call his
parents house to check on him tosee when he was going to be
there. And he answers the phone out of
breath. And I said dude, what are you
doing? He said.
Tell you the truth, I just got here, knew that was you on the
phone, ran in to answer it. Cool, isn't that cool?
So a week and a half later he got a postcard from Carolyn and

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the only thing it had on it besides his dress was enjoyed
the conversation. Oh my goodness, that's so great.
That's wonderful. So being aware of these things
young, often, you know it, it's still, it's tough to deal with.
You talk to people about them and, and there's like you were
saying, there's no books, there's no people, there's no

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process. What are you going to do?
Well, you just kind of got to live with it for a while and and
hope that somebody shows up thatcan give you some guidance or at
least will listen to you withoutjudgement.
Well, This is why I wrote three books on how to do this.
It's really important and I'm working on my 4th and I wrote.
This will include those in the description below.

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Right. And, and you can get them on my
website too, but I wanted to teach people how to do this.
So the first one is just fun. It's how to how I got in this
trouble and how I learned to do it.
And, and it just does a little bit of everything that I do and,
and even some funny, silly stuffthat I started doing early on,

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like going to conventions dressed as a gypsy fortune
teller and really fun silly stuff.
Did you have anything, any, you know this childlike energy that
you carry in doing that? Did you have much happen that
gave you some prep up through your childhood?
None. Oh, no.
I had a horrible childhood. Oh, I mean really, I should have

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turned out to be a drug addict alcoholic hooker for what I went
through. Seriously.
And the horses. Lot of strength.
The horses are what saved me because if you have horses, you
have to have a schedule, you have to have income, you have to
take care of them. It's you're totally responsible
for them and you got to take care of yourself in order to
take care of them. So from early on I had to have

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horses and they really kept me on the straight and narrow
through my whole life. They really have.
So what I'm hearing you say is that that regimen, that
habitual, almost ritualistic behavior during that kept you on
schedule, gave you something to pour your energy into and keep

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you focused and safe and secure.Plus, the other thing is riding.
Riding is my Nirvana. I mean, I have to be on a horse.
There's nothing I'd be in on once.
I had my hip done in end of Julyand I was back on second week in
September and and it it's you just throw your leg over and

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your body just goes, you know, it's just a feeling that if
you've ridden your whole life, you just know it.
It's just your, your legs just wrap around the horse and your,
your butt gets tucked on you andyour shoulders go back and it's
just pure heaven. I can't.
Oh my God, it's just incredible.So.
I have to relate to my early girlfriend in in high school her

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parents had the 1st and 2nd place quarter horses in the QRA
barrel and flag racing. Oh cool, I got the chance to
help. I didn't really train them, but
I rode them quite a bit. Oh, that's so funny.
You know. What I'm talking about, there's
just a feel to it, yeah. Yeah, yeah, there's that immense

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connection. Yeah, well, a horse's.
These people don't realize this.A horse's heart chakra and heart
energy radiates 4 feet away fromtheir body.
So when you're sitting on the horse, you're actually in the
harsh chakra of the horse, or I should call it the heart energy
because I think the chakra just goes straight ahead.

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But so you're in their heart energy even when you're on their
back and you can feel it. It's just incredible.
It is, it sure is. So where did that?
So what were the experiences of the the Gypsy dressed?
Oh, it was just fun. You know, it's just silly.
These the corporate events, theypay really good and they want

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you in costume. And I'm, I'm, you know, I have
no ego in this. So I made-up gypsy fortune
teller costumes and had my little crystal ball.
And what they didn't expect was to to do real somebody doing
real readings. I mean, one lady walked in and I
went, Oh my God, who died? And she burst into tears and I
went, oh, shit, I'm in trouble. So anyway, so I was able to

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connect her with her loved ones that had just passed and she was
there for a corporate event and she walked out and was going, Oh
my God, she's amazing. She was telling everybody she's
amazing. She's amazing.
Yeah, it's interesting you, you mentioned this, you know, the
there as you are aware there's really no veils, right?
It's just because of the tensionand and your allowance of it
actually happening, you know, being able to picture somebody's

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face, look into their eyes, that's kind of you need to do
and unless you don't need to do that even because you get
someone for years. The remote viewing is fun too.
I find lost pets using remote viewing and map dowsing.
So I even developed that becausesomebody said, hey, can you look
and you know, take a look at this house I'm looking to buy

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and sure, what's the address? Can I just go there in my mind
and I tell them if they've got foundation issues or, you know,
leaky windows or mold under the sink or mold in the bathroom.
And I, I get all this stuff. And I've had people come in to
do a reading on a, on a propertyand go, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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this is a money pit. Why go to that?
Go down the basement and look atthe, the northwest corner and
you're going to see there's a huge crack where the foundation
has shifted really badly. And they go and they go, how,
how are you doing this? I'm there.
I'm I'm looking at it. So I love doing the remote

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viewing stuff. It's amazing.
Now, it's funny and, and it's amazing that you developed it as
you have and it's happened because you've allowed it to.
You paid attention, you developed a discipline and the
belief, not really belief, just the knowing that.
Yeah. Everything's possible.
And quantum physics now is saying, OK, there's no matter,

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it's all energy, right? And so it's all about the point
of awareness that we have kind of like Castanada stuff with Don
Juan that that assemblage point that we can shift and throw
anywhere. Oh exactly, exactly.
The I think the hardest thing for me is hearing people's
thoughts just like what you wentthrough and especially.

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When I Oh my gosh. Yeah, really.
And and especially when I was single and dating, it was just
awful, you know, because you'd hear that you'd show up and.
Oh, my God, she's fat. Well, OK, I'm going home.
I'm leaving. I already told you I was.
You didn't believe me. So that was hard.

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That was really hard. So where do you think we can go
with this? Because as we're moving into
this new time, let's say the Ageof Aquarius, all the calendars
are indicating it, all the prophecies indicated.
So why aren't we listening and paying attention to it?
Well, I. Think you know Zen?

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I think it comes down to fear. You know, we're either living in
love or we're living in fear. And media is so focused on fear
producing information, you know,it's terrifying.
And so I think people just get wrapped up in that fear instead
of thinking about their own, their own gratitude and, and how
great their own life is. And if their life isn't great,

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manifesting it. So it is great.
You know, they just think they don't have any power.
And so I think it's. Gratitude.
Yeah, to me, it's one of the most powerful things you can do
because it it, there's a, there's a line in the book The
Science of Getting Rich in the Summer, and that's by Wallace
Waddles. And, and there's a line in there

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that says gratitude unifies the mind of man with the, I want to
use the word energy of source sothat man's thoughts are received
by the formless. And that one is just like in my
freaking face. Do you know what I mean?
It's it's what I think about allthe time.
Well, when I have my awakening as a teenager, the first thing

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that really made sense to me andcorroborated my experience was
the betas. And you know, throughout that I
got the sense of, OK, we're all divine threads connected to
source capable of God consciousness.
Well, what's? Yes.
Gratitude. That's the that ultimate

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gratitude, the awe of acknowledging what is in the
incomprehensible magnificence. Yes.
Yeah, I to me, as I'm going to sleep, I'm doing my gratitude
and as soon as I wake up, I'm doing my gratitude every day and
it just, it starts manifesting in ways you just can't even

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believe. It's one of the one of the
things I want to do. Then I want to teach people how
to develop their intuitive abilities.
Because it makes your life happier, healthier and more
abundant. It just does.
Absolutely. And so becoming intuitive
telepathic, it's, you know, it'sthe same thing.

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There is even the podcast now the top podcast is the Telepathy
Tapes. And I'm I'm hoping to get on
there, but I mean, this one's good.
Yours is really good too. But that one's the top one.
It's even pissing off Joe Rogan.So anyway, but I want to get on
that because it's that's my bailiwick is communicating with

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people that can't. And it's just now starting to
come to the forefront that it's even possible.
And I've been doing coma communication, Alzheimer's
communication, TBI, strokes and non verbal autism.
I've been doing that communication the whole time, 35
years. And that's how I started.
So I really want to contribute that.

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I want to let people know what'spossible.
And it's all well and good to know and understand that
autistic people can communicate telepathically, but if you're
not a receiver and a transmitter, there's no
communication. It's one person with their own.
Thoughts. I had a friend, a bipolar that
computer programmer wrote encrypted databases for the NSA

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at one point, so highly developed telepathic labeled
manic depressive. He would get into manic modes
and he would seek me out becauseI'm the only one that could hear
him and bring him back into it and you know those kinds of
things. It's so it's, it's amazing to be

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able to help people like that, yeah.
And in. Some time there's others around
you going well. Why are you wasting your time
with those people? Yeah, but the big thing is I
really want to tell people aboutenergy healing.
You know, we're 99% energy, we're only 1% physical.
So I said that to Doctor Lazlov and he said, you know, I would

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say we were 100% energy. Well, I think, I think we have
to give a little bit of credit for the, the shell we live in.
You know, it's one, it's a 1%, it's a little meat suit we're
running around in. Yes, I understand that and it
appears like that to us that is it really because when you are

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able to move in the ways that wedo, that's not physical and and
you know. So there's that question anyway,
I, I will acquiesce to the 1% 'cause, you know, we, we have
things that appear to be solid. Yes, and and the sad part is all

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of allopathic medicine is focused on just that freaking
1%. That makes no sense.
Symptoms. Yeah, and people don't
understand that stuck negative emotions are what cause disease.
Look at all the billions and billions of dollars that are
spent on supplements, the right food, cleansing diets, all that
stuff. And, and to me, the only thing,

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I mean, long as you're not drinking Drano, you're OK.
And, and the big thing is, is, is it's just a, a matter of
getting rid of all the stuck negative emotions.
It's issues in the tissues. Exactly.
Great phrase. Yes, and energy.
Healing. Is it issues or issues?
Say again. Is it ish U's or ish me's?

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I don't know, but I just know it's made a huge difference in
my life. And my sister had was diagnosed
with lymphoma and given six months to live and you can't
work on your family members. So I sent her to a healer I know
in San Diego and she had one session with him and it was
gone. And that's over 20 years ago.
They had another scan. Her doctor said what the hell

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did you do? And she tried to describe what
she went through and the doctor was like and.
That God consciousness that becomes present that in that
perfect love there is No Fear, and the fear is what condenses
that energy into disturbance or dis ease.

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Exactly. I'd love to phrase it that way.
Dis ease. And you know, what's really
funny is that I've, you know, after doing this for 35 years, I
want to say it's all the same freaking thing.
This is, is disempowerment because we're born powerful.
We've just come from source energy.
We know we're here to create because that's the mission of

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the creator is to create. And the universe is highly
intelligent. Yes.
And So what we create is, is whatever blows our skirt up,
whatever makes us happy, whatever is our passion.
Absolutely. Good friend of mine Jose Urguez
brought out the Mayan calendar years ago and and in that
progression through solstice of 2012, there's this big hoopla

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of, of at least for some world'sgoing to end kind of like Y2K,
right? Only it, it's not a world ending
thing, it's a transformation. And in that, so Jose puts it in
that there's this 50 year windowbetween the transition of ages
between the Piscean and the Aquarian Age.
You being an Aquarian, you're kind of hip to this already.

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So in that process up to the apex, which was 2012, there was
an escalation of awareness, of consciousness of all of those
kinds of things. It was in books, tapes, music,
TV shows, obvious that it was taking place.
So then what? So after we've all got this new

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awareness, we carry it with us, it dissipates around us, and
those things that aren't congruent rise to the surface
everywhere in order to be addressed, changed, reformed,
translated, all of those kinds of things.

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Absolutely. And so that's kind of the period
we're in right now in prep to move into this next period where
people start working together collectively and they don't just
talk about it. A lot of times the
collaborations are, Oh yeah, I, you know, I want you to
collaborate with me, which meansI want you to do what I'm doing

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and I need your help. But it's got to I want you to
collaborate rather than right, that kind of stuff, instead of
bringing skill sets together anddoing what you love together to
serve the greater good in some way.
It's so fun when I do readings for people, and that's all I do
all day is readings on the phoneall over the world and Oh my

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God, I just love it. But one of the things that just
still amazes me is when I share information with somebody, I can
watch their whole energy field shift and I'll say, did you feel
that? Did you get goosebumps?
And they go, how did you know? Well, that's what I do.
But you can watch them. And especially when I do, you

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know, crossing over readings, mediumship, you watch them just
get lighter. You know when they when they've
had to confirm that their loved ones are around them, that they
see what they're doing, all thiswonderful positive stuff, they
just release all that negative low vibration grief and they
feel lighter. And they just have your
information. You know, we can't think our way

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through a system built on vibration.
We've got to sensor our way. Right.
Right, the thinking is what's gotten in the way 'cause it's
all above the shoulders. We're not incorporating the body
senses and and Native Americans or indigenous in general have a
what they call a three brain system that got the heart and

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the head. I'm sure you're.
That makes a lot of sense. I'm 4% native.
I don't know what kind, but I'm 4%.
And I'm 1%. I'm 1% Congolese and I want to
know why I don't have any of thebenefits of that.
Maybe you do aren't aware of it yet, right?
No rhythm, no soul. I should be a better dancer.

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Maybe you are. Maybe it doesn't have to be in
this body. It could be in a body on another
plane. And it could.
Be dancing away. Yeah, but that's the genetics
and I, I just get the biggest kick out of that.
I just love it. And I feel like a Heinz 57,
which is perfect, just perfect. Sure.
And and it is wonderful because we all are, we're all relatives,

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we're all stardom. We we've all come from someplace
else as far as being able to assemble the physicality that we
are with that point of awarenessthat isn't that comes in through
the creation process or procreation process.
And we still haven't you got to that experience yet.

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We, we use the phrase cosmic consciousness.
There's all kinds of description, but we don't
realize that those Points of Light in it are US.
Yeah, that's the truth. You know what's really
interesting? I was in, I was in Walmart one
time and I looked at this woman and that judgmental part came up

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and I was just about to think, does not own a full length
mirror. That's what I was going to think
because I thought if she had a full length mirror, there's no
way she would have come out dressed like that.
And my guide stopped me before Icould even finish the thought.
They went, ah, ah, ah, you know,because I'm not allowed to be
judgmental. And they said look.

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And it was the most bizarre thing because coming from and
through her third chakra was a blue cord.
That blue cord was connected to everybody in the vicinity.
It was, it was just incredible. And as people moved, the cord
moved with them. It never disconnected.
And I, it was, that was a life changing experience That really

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was because it showed how we're all connected.
I mean, in a very graphic, in a very graphic manner.
I wish I could draw what I saw. Well, there were there have been
similar things in movies. I think what the Bleep had some
scenes in it was those kinds of things were great on.

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It that was my. Level.
That was life changing. Oh my gosh, that movie was life
changing. It was incredible.
I met William Arnst when they brought it to Tempe here.
So cool. He was the the money and the
producer behind it. Fascinating discussion
beforehand and even more fascinating movie.

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Yeah, it's, you know, I when I get people that are starting to
get interested in it and I go, go, go watch that movie.
OK. And then watch the watch the
sequel. That's the sequel too, because
it's it's almost like they had too much film leftover, so they
thought they'd do, you know, do it a sequel to it and it's just
as good. Oh my goodness.

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Yeah. It's incredible.
And it provides, you know, and we see that on screen.
How do you think, Oops, there's that word again.
What's your sense of how that has affected others and where we

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may be going as society that that is now in place and and
rippling through the thoughtmosphere, if you will?
I think locally, and I mean by that, the US, we're in that
situation of it has to get worsebefore it gets better.

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And I think that's where we are right now.
And I think there's going to be cataclysmic occurrences probably
in the next two, two to three months changes that need to be
to be gone through. And I think it's going to be a
huge wake up call for for a lot of people who enjoyed, I'm going

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to say it this way, enjoy their ignorance and prejudice and
racism. They enjoyed it.
They do. Believe that it was.
They think it's OK Pardon. They do enjoy it 'cause they
think it's OK. Yeah, yeah.
And I think that's going to going to be a big wake up call
for a lot of people. I think there's going to be big
changes and I think it's sort ofgoing to be like a cleansing and

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then it's going to take a while to sort of pick up all the
pieces. And I don't do predictions, but
I have a just a quiet confidencefrom my guides to not worry
about what's going on. You don't.
Have to do predictions to see patterns and processes and

(30:38):
understand the flow of where they are going to go if they're
not addressed. Well, I don't believe in doing
predictions for my clients. You know, sometimes I'll get
them for me, but I won't do themfor my clients because of the
law of attraction. You know, the law of attraction
states what you think about you bring about.

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And so if somebody's working really hard at something, I mean
really working hard to make something happen.
And I and I do a reading for them and I tell them, Oh yes,
absolutely. I see that coming to fruition.
Well, they may say, well, Terry said it was going to happen so I
can quit busting my hump for it.I'm just going to relax and let
it let it happen. Well, then it's not going to

(31:20):
happen because and then if I, ifI see somebody, you know, in
trouble and I go, Oh my goodness, when you're in
traffic, stay away from white vans.
Their their fixation on staying away from white vans would make
them have an accident with a white van.
Absolutely yes, totally agree with you.
I've seen it happen over and over again.

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Yes. So you can't do predictions for
good stuff, and you can't do predictions for bad stuff.
You can't. No, you can say, OK, here's the
playing field that you have withwhat's transpiring.
Where do you want to be in it? Right, That's what I do is is I
really get great guidance. My guides are so fun.

(32:03):
Oh my God, they're so fun. Humor too, right?
Oh. Well, they have to, because I
think our guides are an energetic manifestation of parts
of our personality that are directly connected to Source.
That's what I think. Oh, absolutely, I totally agree
with that. Now there are also, and maybe
you haven't heard, let me add this and, and you may not have

(32:25):
heard about it because I've I'vestudied all kinds of stuff and
know more than I ought to. And then I have moments of those
pauses when I pull a file out, right.
So there's a thing called a multi plane awareness that
William Swaggart developed in the 1950s.
And what it is, is a process that a facilitator takes a

(32:45):
participant through 9 planes of consciousness and integrates
your body on each of those planes and then goes beyond that
to show that yes, there's more. And then brings you back in, You
drop the bodies off, you come back into your body.
I got to the end of it, got the prompt to get ready to come
back, came back, had a party in my room for a while before I

(33:07):
realized what was going on. That was tough to take.
Then 20 years later, I run into Edward close and Vernon Neppe,
who wrote a Theory of Everythingquantum physics paper about the
triadic dimensional distinction vortical paradigm.

(33:29):
Right. It was like, come on, can you
create something any longer that's too much?
About a cowgirl. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
The essence of it is they posit that consciousness, space and
time are tethered across 9 dimensions for the human
experience, which echoes what I experienced in that multi plane

(33:50):
awareness technique. I.
Would not argue with that. I really think that that has
validity. It seems to, because now you've
got science backing up the experience at least in some way.
So there's this opportunity thatwe have to recognize that, oh,
OK, we are connected. There's other levels and they
get finer and finer, purer and purer.

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And just what are we going to let through in the purest state
possible, which comes into that?OK, we have we have a design.
We have a perfected form, fit and function in the world.
What is it? Are we curious?

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Mission. Purpose?
Why am I here? Who am I?
You know all these kinds of questions.
So many people, they want to have a reading just for that,
You know, what is my purpose? And when you go back and you go
whatever you want it to be exactly, there's got to be
something divine. No, you're divine, so it's
really fun. Right.

(34:53):
There are, there are signposts, there are bread crumbs with
skill set development and, you know, things that we go through
in life and experience that thenlead us to that point where
we're reflecting, harvesting ourpast rather than dragging it
with us. And you go, OK, what did I learn
and how can I apply it? Sure.

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Yeah, that's, I'm just, I'm having so much fun.
We're doing this work and this is never something that I would
have chosen for myself. Never.
Totally. Yeah, I mean, I just wanted to
make my living with horses and I've been doing that my whole
life. But now I do readings on horses,

(35:34):
which, Oh my goodness, they're so oh, it's just so much fun to
do and they're so specific and detailed on what they share.
If I have ATV show it should be called.
I can't make this stuff up but use that other S word.
I know you can't. You can't script this stuff.
No, it's just bizarre. Bizarre, weird, spooky.

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Cool. Yes.
And and so it brings in that theidea that Einstein presented
with with quantum entanglement. Yep.
Yep, it's all there. We.
Are entangled. Yeah.
It's just, it's so it's kind of overwhelming sometimes to
realize all of that stuff when you're just going out to clean

(36:17):
stalls, you know what I mean? But it's a, that's my, my
contemplation time is to, and, and I do gratitude even when I'm
out there because if there's manure, it means there's a horse
nearby and it's mine. So I'm very grateful.
Yeah. How do you begin to help another

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who is just beginning to understand or had some
experiences of weird stuff? Oh, I love doing that because,
because most of the time they think they're crazy, you know,
they think they're, you know, their cheese don't fell off
their cracker. By and everybody's telling them
so. Yeah, I think a lot of people

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that are in psych wards have walk-ins that there's a spirit
of somebody that passes walked into them to remain in the
physical plane. And I think can we go through
there and see who's feeling bad experience that they feel like
they're not themselves anymore? I think that would be
fascinating. So the big thing is, is to to to

(37:27):
teach people this is totally normal.
And, and if you're a functioninghuman being, you know, you
sleep, you eat, you get dressed,you hold a job, you know, you're
healthy. You, you, you do all these
healthy things. You do the right things, you pay
your bills. If you're a functioning adult,
you're fine. And So what goes on in your

(37:48):
head, that's fine too. But when they realize, I mean,
I've had people say, well, Terry, I don't know what to do.
I'm hearing voices. And I go, yeah, well, what, what
do I do? Well, what are they telling you?
And I said, as long as it's good, happy, positive stuff, do
it. I said if you start hearing
negative stuff, then you need psychiatric help.

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You know, they're telling you tokill people or wreck stuff, then
you need psychiatric help. If it's happy, fun stuff, Oh my
goodness, I love it. You know, I want one of those
T-shirts that says you're just jealous because the voices are
talking to me. I, I need to have one of those

(38:32):
'cause that's really it. And, and there's, they're,
they're, they're 24/7 with me, always telling me what to do.
Sometimes I get a little tired. I go, can I take a?
Break. Yeah, just give me a break,
guys. I gotta go potty right?
No, I just, I just need a nap. I haven't had a nap.
I need to take a nap. Now you mentioned the the
functionality and, and I've beenin full agreement with that

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because if you're not functional, that's that's the
essence of self love, right? It could be in that functional
position where you're manage yourself well.
Yes, take care of yourself. That's that's step one.
In this new time and these new opportunities, challenges that

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we have with diversity and inclusion, which include the
neurodiverse and, and we were talking about the autistic and
the CP kids and you know, all ofthese things that have been
shoved aside for far too long. And a lot of these, especially
highly functioning autistics, are brilliant.

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They have so much to offer. And intuitive and tell about it.
Yeah, right. And and this is kind of why they
are so keep themselves sheltered.
Sure, right. It's because they are so
sensitive. They don't want to deal with the
bullshit in the public. Yep.
Wait, right, You can blame them.Look at those.

(40:02):
I look at those funny posts on Facebook and it's like people
don't want to go out because it's too people Y.
I don't make eye contact when I go out in public because I
otherwise I know everything about somebody, you know, and,
and I don't want to know that stuff.
You know, I don't know what I want to know their butt itches
or they're horny or I don't wantto know that stuff.

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And man, if I just make eye contact, boom, I caught it.
It's like that's creeping me out.
So I never make eye contact. And I've had friends like run
their shopping cart into me before I pay attention.
I was like, oh, oh, it's you, I can look up.
So are there ways though, because I understand and
appreciate your maintenance of your openness, are there ways to

(40:52):
create filters or an on off switch in that?
And how might one go about exploring that?
You know, it's really funny. I just don't have 1 and I and
there must be a little part of me that goes, no, we don't want
one. We might miss something.
OK, But I do teach it. I the curious.

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Kid never wants to miss anything.
No, I mean I used to. I remember laying in the hall as
a as a young child because I wanted to watch TV, but more so
I wanted to hear if my parents were talking about me and then
so I would lay in the hall looking at the TV and and
eavesdropping. So I never want to miss
anything. And I think that's why I don't

(41:36):
have an off switch or on switch.I'm on all the time.
So in that in order to possibly share with the audience for
those who would like to shuttle off occasionally, because we
can, right, we can create that shift in assemblage point to
where our point of awareness is.However you want to call that

(41:58):
where our attention is, how would one go about recognizing
or at least exploring the ability to manage their own gift
better? Well, let's call it a skill
because we know it's a skill. People come up with all kinds of
things like 1 pull one earlobe for on, one earlobe for the

(42:21):
other earlobe for off wearing a rubber band around their wrist
and they snap it to turn on and snap it to turn off.
Turning their wedding ring, turning their watch.
You know, people have been able to develop all kinds of ways of
turning, turning it off and on. And So what I, what I hear from
that though, is that those things are triggers to shift

(42:45):
your focus of attention, yes, from outside to do it, you know,
doing something with your body that attracts attention, that
gets you to break that. Yeah, easy peasy.
But I, I, I think I really, I don't want it, otherwise I would
have it or find it, you know? Sure.
Well, you've grown up. You find it fun and exciting and

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and valuable, so why would you want to push away?
Well, I'm kind of a busy buddy, you know, and in, in Yiddish, we
call it a yenta. I'm kind of a yenta, yeah.
Or I want to know everybody's business, you know, but I, I
think. Transparency too, because in

(43:28):
that energy there's no barriers,boundaries or anything.
It's transparent as all get out,and those with the eyes to see
and the ears to hear will. But the other thing too that I
do, I'm very careful about, son,I would never ambush somebody in
in a public place with a reading.

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Never. It's so freaking unethical.
You don't. Yeah, that's just so
irresponsible. Yes, and we see people on TV
doing that all the time. They shouldn't.
We don't know how how susceptible somebody's going to
be or receptive they're going tobe to the information that we're
going to give them. Sometimes they may not be ready

(44:09):
for it. So there's 2 words that come up
for me for that compassion and empathy.
How about ethics? Well, that too, that without,
because the, you know, if you're, if there's no compassion
or empathy for for the other, you, you have the sense that's
because that's your skill. That's you know, what's there.

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What you do with it, how you do what you do with it is the
objective of being compassionate, empathetic,
mindful of when and where that takes place.
Because it's like, you know. That when it's appropriate.
It's. Yes, exactly.

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And how do we develop consideration for others when
our society doesn't teach that? No, they don't, no.
So I think that's very, it's just very important to to
remember, you know, I'm being bombarded with information 24/7
and that's why if I don't make eye contact, I'm pretty much OK.

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But if I make eye contact, sometimes it's like, because
it's that powerful of what I'm getting on that person.
And, and I have to be, you know,very cognizant of the fact that
even though I've just gotten something monumental, I am not
the dog and pony show. And it is I'm not looking for

(45:40):
attention. I'm not looking for attention
from that person. You know, my I have to come to
all of this information as a healer, as a healing
facilitator. There's only the only healing
that happens is when people healthemselves.
Right. So you just have to be aware
that in it's, you know, when, when you have mediums,

(46:02):
especially TV mediums, you know,it's all about them.
It really is and it shouldn't be.
It should be about helping and healing their clients.
That's that's what's more important.
Absolutely. Absolutely.
Now in this concern that we havefor the development and support

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and invitation to be vulnerable for others because that's kind
of where it has to be, right? Would you say that state of
vulnerability gives us that it'swhere courage is fear.
That said, it's prayers, right? How would this be advantageous

(46:55):
in helping relationships, workforces, work groups,
partnerships, communities? What would you see the
advantages of of that? I think the biggest thing is you
become a human lie detector. So people that want to get away

(47:18):
with stuff with you, you know, you're, you're going to know
that, that when they're not telling the truth, that to me is
the biggest thing. And it's so funny.
My husband tries stuff all the time and they go, no, no, that's
not what happened. You know, he's, he's still tries
to get away with it. And it's like, no, no, honey,

(47:38):
try again. You know, because that one,
that's not the truth. So why, why try?
Do you know what I do for a living?
I mean, that's what I tell him. If he still tries to get away
with it, but you know it stops all of the BS in relationships
when when you develop your intuitive ability, nobody can
get away with anything they can because you know you're going to

(47:58):
call them on it. And there's lots of times I
don't call people on stuff, but I know, I know what the truth
is. And the.
Sense that again it it's a vibration that you can yes and
and when you feel that constriction, it's like, uh,
that's not flowing. There's some mist there, don't
know what it is, but there's, you know, I think full

(48:21):
transparency if you want. Absolutely.
When people develop these abilities, you know telepathy
and then intuition which you have to include clairvoyance,
Clair sentience, Clair audience,and Clair cognizance and Clair
just means clear but. We have.
I call them the Clair Olives andonly your hairdresser would
know. I love that I call it the Clair
Sisters. This Clair means clear.

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So clear, seeing, clear feeling,clear hearing, clear, knowing.
We all have all of it. And somebody else said there was
another one that was like clear smelling and clear tasting,
which I have that too. But sometimes I don't want that,
especially when, you know, somebody says, does my dog like
going out to my friend's ranch? It's like, Oh no, it's.
Well, it's like multiple, right?The gardener's work and there's

(49:06):
I think 8-9 of them now and and we all have them just like the
auditory, kinesthetic and visuallearners.
There are these 8 or 9 multiple intelligences that we use in our
learning process. This is the same, right, where
we have some that we have greater affinity for or ability

(49:27):
with and then we're able to manage the rest of them
accordingly. But it it just, when we have
this ability, it it really knowing the truth, knowing the
truth in every fiber of your being is an incredible skill.
I mean, it's an incredible skill.
And it's one of the biggest things that that I share with my

(49:50):
clients, especially when I'm teaching them how to do this in
one of my workshops or private workshops.
Because the truth is the most important thing.
It just is 'cause everything. Is from that now in in your
experience, I know you haven't you've been outside the
corporate realms of even though you go inside them for the
events and things like that those that realm that kind of

(50:15):
person isn't around long in mostcases doing the right, you know,
attempting to do the right thingbe the you know, to be in
integrity right now. How do you or do you see from
your work in corporate events and things like that?

(50:36):
Do you see this shifting at all?Is it possible that there's
maybe a renaissance that's goingto be taking place in the
business community soon? I, I think the more people that,
that accept these abilities as, as just abilities, not gifts or
they're not special, I think, I think the more people

(50:58):
incorporated into their life, the more empowered they're going
to be. That's a big thing.
You, you don't, you're not goingto let people walk all over you.
And, and I think it's really important.
Plus the, the other big thing, it's huge.
The one thing we feel like we don't have any control over is
our freaking health. You know, when, when you get

(51:19):
sick, when you hurt something, when you need a surgery, It's,
it's almost like you, there's noexplanation.
It's like shit happens and that's not true.
It's you manifested that diseasedis ease because you have
disempowerment. I mean, it really is that
simple. And this way I.
Really encourage a lot of peopleto do energy healing because

(51:40):
it's something that they can learn and something they can do
for themselves and Oh my God, it's free you know and nobody
has to get paid to do it I. Think I I wish my birth mother
would I I met my birth mother at61 my wife got me the ancestry
subscription for. A first.
And she popped in and, or actually my half sister did it

(52:02):
in January of 2019. So I met mom, found out that she
was in remission of four different types of cancer and I
was the last thing on her bucketlist.
Oh. My goodness.
She had not told her family about me at all until she was
with her mother in her and her mother was dying.

(52:24):
She was 104 or five at the time.He blurted out something about
me in front of the rest of the family.
And so now she had to come clean, right?
So that kind of dis ease of suppressing that it, it's going
to manifest in different ways inyour body because you're not

(52:47):
dealing with it. No, that's probably why she had
cancer. That's my opinion.
And it's like dad told me, Piscean, my adoptive father, he
said, you know, it doesn't matter what you tell me as long
as it's the truth. We can deal with the truth and

(53:08):
nothing else matters bigger thanhe's speaking, right?
As long as we know the truth, then we can deal with things up
front and not worry about what we said, who did what, covering
up things that it doesn't matter, not going to judge you.
That's they were the my adopted parents really taught me about

(53:29):
unconditional love. That's amazing.
That was such a huge blessing for you.
Oh my gosh, I I can't tell you. And, and even with my personal
lightning, they were still a bitconcerned that and did the best
they could knowing what they didand, and the situation that was
happening in rural Indiana in the mid 70s, right.
There was just not that much awareness, even though Camp

(53:52):
Chesterfield was not that far away, it was 15 miles away.
You're familiar with Camp Chesterfield?
No, not at all. You're familiar with Lilydale?
Yes. OK, same thing.
Oh my goodness. Only older Oh.
Wow. So basically this is a community

(54:13):
where psychics and mediums and trans channels and all those
kinds of folks live together. Oh my goodness.
And so. Did you go there?
I had, but not till later, the gentleman I was telling you
about that came and knocked on my door.

(54:33):
During that experience he was a groundskeeper there.
Oh my goodness, that's so cool. So, so those kinds of things,
you know, you just never know how things are going to show up.
Trusting that they will, they do.
And even if you don't trust, they do.

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You just have to be aware that, OK, there's a knock on the door,
there's a tug or there's a sensation in your body that's
new or different that you haven't felt yet.
Well, why is that? Do we inquire or do we just
shove it aside? I'm not going to deal with that
right now, which is usually what's happened.
I think that the surrender is one of the words I love to use.

(55:20):
And when I get when I feel myself getting on push or
worrying, it's like, Hey, surrender, let go, let God, you
know, just you got everything taken care of.
Just go with the flow, you know,and and that seems to work
really well to just sort of get me back where I need to be.
Sure. And it regardless of the name,

(55:42):
regardless of the religion, it'sall the same source
differentiated such in in such ways.
And granted, best we can do withthe information that we have and
the ability that those that havegone before us have had to

(56:04):
manipulate others to get us to believe in a certain thing or
way without being open and, and experiencing that unconditional
love. And and would you agree that at
our core, really all we desire in life is to love and be loved?
Absolutely no argument. For me it really.

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It really is all about that. How?
Do we bring that out more? How do we bring that
conversation into a living awareness?
And a lot of the clients that I work with, there is no self love
and there's even self hatred, self loathing.
And of course, that brings up all of the autoimmune diseases,

(56:49):
which they don't realize is an absolute correlation.
So when I say, well, you don't love yourself, that's why you
have, you know, fibromyalgia. And they're like, what?
And the last times I go, you're nuts.
And I go, no, here's the deal, Camille.
And I tell him and that, you know, cells respond to emotions.

(57:10):
That's been proven time and again and and so that they have
to work on self love in order toheal their dis ease.
And there's been some pretty miraculous turnarounds on people
that have diseases, you know, autoimmune diseases, once they
realize it's because of their own thoughts and feelings and in
a lot of cases because of their childhood.

(57:33):
Right. How?
And there are way too many. I mean, the at one point in the
90s, I think it was, there was a70% divorce rate in America.
That kind of anybody who's been in that situation, that's

(57:57):
horrible, regardless of how it happens.
Yeah, but here's the thing then,maybe you don't realize this.
A lot of women prior to the 70s were basically stuck in their
marriages because they couldn't get a credit card, they couldn't

(58:18):
have their own bank account, they couldn't sign for a loan.
You know the it's it's it's hardto remember that all of.
Those It's almost hard to believe that we were so short
sighted so short time ago. Or inside.
So women were basically stuck inin unhappy marriages because

(58:38):
they couldn't make it on their own.
Even if they had a job, they still had so many restrictions
on on just self empowerment and being able to function as a
member of society. There were too many restrictions
on them and. There still are.
I mean, look at how we still buyinto a document that says women
came from a man's rib house. You know, I mean, that's

(59:01):
subservient from the beginning. Why do we even think that's
possible? And yet, because we want to
believe and trust in someone's expertise, not our own, right,
there's that self love thing, right?
Right. You don't trust yourself, you
would you put your faith and trust in another.
Well, that's not what Jesus taught.

(59:22):
No, the big thing about him is he's master healer.
He was either doing a healing, going to a healing or coming
from a healing and he said all this and more you can do well.
Exactly. Some of us have taken that to
heart and others have fallen prey to the whole rigmarole of

(59:43):
control, which is, you know, there's well.
I'm going to pray for you right that.
There's only one way to God. Yeah, somebody's having
problems. There's an immediate judgement
and a pray for a prayer for themwith some other outcome than
whatever's necessary. That's black magic without
permit. Right, that's Santa Claus for

(01:00:05):
adults. Yeah.
It really is. So how do we shift this into,
again, back to these more open conversations about loving and
being loved, sensitivity. Not that we're getting mamby
pamby, you know, because a lot of the guys will say that's just
woo, woo, you know, touchy feelystuff I don't want.
Yes. And it's reality.

(01:00:28):
Yeah. How do we bring that reality
into more awareness so that we can have a better world as a
result? You know what I'm saying?
What we want? I think it's coming and and and
it's going to take a while, but when people start healing

(01:00:49):
themselves through energy healing, if they cannot help but
raise their own vibration. And you can also raise your own
vibration just through intention, But the more your
vibration goes up, the more the stuff that is low vibration and
not true has to be released. So even belief systems that are

(01:01:14):
not based in truth, they won't serve you anymore.
They, they, they won't function,they won't help because they're
low vibration brainwashing systems.
And so I think the more we raiseour vibration, the more those
low vibration fear based systemsis what I want to call it, have

(01:01:36):
to get shed off and left by the wayside.
I totally agree. As you were talking about
intention it I thought of LesterLevinson.
She may be familiar with the Sedona method.
Oh, I don't know what that is. OK, so the Lester Levinson was

(01:01:56):
diagnosed with a terminal illness and he decided he was,
he was evidently wealthy. He decided he was going to sit
and breathe out all of it and just sit and and heal himself.
And how what he came out of thatwith was called the Sedona

(01:02:18):
Method. And it's basically feeling
you're feeling whatever it is inthe moment, not denying it,
embracing it fully, then taking a breath and allowing it to be
released through your solar plexus like a frisbee thrown out
into the darkness. Oh cool, I like that.

(01:02:38):
And he lived for another 40 years or something.
Like. That right.
And and this Bob Crane was an avid supporter of it, the actor
that played Hogan and Hogan's hero.
So unfortunately, he'd had another exit, but still, these

(01:03:01):
and these things have been demonstrated by others.
If one can do it, just like Jesus said, if I can do it, you
can do it. Anything I can do, you can do it
more. I'm just focused on this.
You can put all kinds of different skill sets.
Yeah. How can we exercise those skill

(01:03:23):
sets better in your opinion? I think it's if each individual
understands and vibration and that their source energy in a
meat suit and through intention or whatever practices work for
them to raise their own vibration and to get happy to
develop their intuitive abilities which help them with a

(01:03:46):
happier, healthier, more abundant life.
And if each individual does that, it, it has a ripple effect
into the creative consciousness and people that are nearby, you
know, it's, it's there's. Been people in my life.
Where I've thought, oh, I just got to go stand next to them.
I don't want to be in their energy field.

(01:04:07):
And you feel weird, you go, am Igay?
No, no. You just like their energy.
No, it's just harmonious and youwant to be around it.
I know there's been two people in my life that I.
Felt that way about and it's like oh and I need to go stand
with them. My wife and I are like that.
We're together. Isn't that fun it it?
Is we don't need anybody else. No, right.

(01:04:30):
We're just happy. Sitting and.
Talking with each other and being next to each other and,
and yeah, I've never experiencedthat before.
That's so cool. And that's been, you know, we
got together right before COVID and both our business, she's got
a piano studio and oh geez, and I do.
Transformational Coaching. And both of our businesses
increased during that time as well.

(01:04:51):
Everybody else, we did not change one thing we were doing
not what? Well, yeah, we stopped going to
a few stores that refused us because we wouldn't wear masks.
But yeah, no biggie in that. There was this, oh, I know

(01:05:12):
regard to the, the energy field,there was a Huna train shaman
woman that I went to a workshop to 89, I think it was maybe 90.
And she would demonstrate the size of the aura to people.

(01:05:33):
And so I showed, I showed up early.
You know, they show up early or stay late.
That's where the magic happens. And so I showed up.
It was just her and I. We were in a 40 foot square
church auditorium and or just a kind of rec room and I was
asking her. How do you do this?
What? What's going on?
So I'm familiar with dowsing rods.
I knew what they were used for in in other ways and realized

(01:05:57):
their value. And she goes, well, here's what
I do. She says, I'll show you.
So I want you to stand in this corner and I want I'm going to
take you through the past, the future and the present.
And what I want you to do is to go somewhere in your close your
eyes, go into the past, go into an experience and become it.

(01:06:22):
And so then. She went to the other corner.
So a 40 foot room, probably a 54foot hypotenuse.
And she clears the rod, starts walking towards me, stops where
they open, has me open my eyes. We mark the spot.
She has me go into the future, do the same thing, goes and she
does the same thing, marks the spot.

(01:06:42):
Then she picks up a rock in the windowsill next to me, puts up
my hand, says now focus on this.And so I do.
She barely gets 2 steps in from the other side of the room.
The other two, the future and the past, opened about 6 feet in
front of me. Oh my goodness, the present.
Opened up almost. 50 feet in front of me and Oh my goodness

(01:07:06):
with no. Focus of.
Attention or desire to fully be present.
So imagine if someone were trained the effect that they
could have. Who knows how wide it might go.
Oh wow, that's so cool. So those are the kinds.
Of things that we walk with. Now because of that in the self

(01:07:27):
examination and the centerednessand the stillness and all this
mindfulness stuff that's going on, we've literally changed the
atmosphere that we lived in on asubtle level.
Absolutely. And it and more is coming.
I mean. That's the coolest thing is more
is coming. You know, anybody that wants
energy healing instructions, I'll e-mail them to it because

(01:07:50):
to me, that's my gift to give topeople that they can start
trying to heal themselves. And if that's the most important
thing, because I, I, it's reallyfunny, but I'm not a fan of
hands on healing because if you,if you've got to dis ease
because you've lost your power, if someone lays hands on you,

(01:08:12):
you still don't have your power back.
But if you work at healing yourself.
Not. Only do you have a greater
chance of of really doing it, but at the same time you're
going to release the negative low vibration things that made
you sick in the 1st place. Sure, and it's like channeling.
Right. I've heard number of channelers.

(01:08:34):
Some of them are clear, some of them aren't.
Whatever comes out of your mouthis still filtered through
whatever's in your head. Yes, yes, can be very
frustrating. Because all you have is your
own. Perspective and there's.
Some things that lie out of my mouth and I go, I don't even
know what that is because I'm just channeling information.

(01:08:54):
I know I'm done. You know that.
What? I when I mentioned that, you
know we can't think our way through a system build on
vibration, we got a simpler way through.
Those words came out of my mouthone day just out of nowhere, and
Luba says you need to write down.
That's a gem. And because it's true, Yeah, my

(01:09:15):
books are channelled. You know, people, people go, oh,
I've got writer's block, and I go, don't you hear the voices
that tell you what to write? No, they don't.
I'm weird. You know there whether it's
voices. Sensations that there's a
certain you know we have if we just look at it from a an old

(01:09:37):
perspective, an axiom of five senses and 10% of our brain use
you have 45 more with the other 90% if you just do a simple
ratio. So are those 45 more those?
5 distributed. Through the 9 planes, I'm not

(01:09:57):
going to worry. About it, I'm just going to keep
doing. It I know I.
Just these are questions, right?It's.
Because you're looking for systems, correlations, how
things fit together, how things work, you know, And to be able
to ask critical questions without holding on any.
Everything's sacred, and yet nothing is sacred, right?
I agree. I agree this is so.

(01:10:20):
Much fun to do this. Work and to watch people's lives
change and watch their animals change.
I love talking to animals. Oh my goodness, that's so much
fun. And what's really weird?
Then it's like every time I'm doing a reading on an animal, I
end up pivoting to the human. And going can.
We talk about your grief or can we talk about your health issue

(01:10:42):
or whatever else is going on with them.
And most of the time they burst into tears and they go, how did
you know? And then they go, Oh well, never
mind. And and so we end up peeling the
animal. Exactly.
We heal the animal and then healthe.
Human at the same time help themto heal.
They're healing themselves. But it's just incredible.
I feel so blessed that I get to do this work.

(01:11:07):
And the sense, the awe. The the support, the love, the
nurturing, all of those, the effervescent.
Iridescent. High pitched sensation that
comes along with that. Oh my God, there's there's
sometimes. Sometimes I work late and I
don't get done till 8830 and that's my bedtime and I can't go

(01:11:33):
to sleep because I'm just layingthere just vibrating like crazy
because of the so much energy that I was working with, you
know, in the last reading. Oh my goodness, people don't
understand and they go. Didn't you do like 9 readings
today? Yeah, I did.
Well, why can't you sleep? Well, that's because I did mind
readings today. Exactly.

(01:11:55):
And that same kind of. Sensation happens right before
an OBE. That's part of that process, as
far as I understand it in the research that I've done anyway.
And, and what I've noticed for me, there's that OK Here, you
know, you begin to sense and feel it.

(01:12:17):
It's like, oh boy, here it comes.
I'm going to go have some fun, right?
You can't really think about it because that retards the
experience, you know, your body,you start thinking you're going
to stop back in, right? Yeah.
I just I it's really funny. The only weird things that
happened to me as a child is I did astral projection.

(01:12:37):
That scared the crap out of myself because I'd be laying in
bed thinking I was asleep and all of a sudden I'm out in space
looking around and just, and it would be just going and, and
like, I couldn't tell. I couldn't.
I didn't have the wherewithal totell my parents what I was
experiencing. But that's the.

(01:12:58):
Only weird thing that happened to me as a child that made me
think well, parental advice. That just opened the door,
right, for parents who have young children who talk to them
or seem like something else is going on.
They're not quite themselves, you know, the the guidance, the

(01:13:21):
nurturing, the acceptance of whatever it is that they're
going through and not wanting totell them all.
It's just your imagination or offers something else.
Be curious. I've had.
I've had lots of. Experiences with parents that
thought their kids were having mental health issues and they

(01:13:42):
were just seriously intuitive and mediums and they had the
whole gang, but gamut of of skill set.
And it was a matter of teaching them when it was appropriate and
when it wasn't. And, and it was a matter of
teaching them to have boundaries.

(01:14:03):
And when you can say things about this and when you have to
keep it to yourself and maybe just write it down.
You know that that well, as kids, we don't have any
boundaries, right? We just blurt.
Shit out yeah, it doesn't matteryeah yeah.
So it's it's just really. Important not to discourage
them, not to turn it off, but toallow them to have these

(01:14:25):
abilities but know when it's appropriate to share them.
That's the whole thing. Sure.
Yeah. And.
That's one of the key features of learning how to navigate is
where to set your boundaries. Yes, absolutely and.
That has to do with the self love.

(01:14:46):
Too, because most of that is about setting boundaries.
Nope, you can't come in here, right?
Right. How would you?
Enjoy the opportunity to share something that would be

(01:15:06):
massively significant on a very subtle level in people's lives.
What would that be? I think it's energy.
Healing. I I really do teaching them
that, that they gave themselves the disease and that they can
can release it and, and it they're always shocked that I

(01:15:28):
nail and, and I'm not saying this from ego, please don't
think that, but being able to nail why they have the disease.
I just did that often. It's as often confused as ego.
By unaware, right? Somebody that says, oh, you're
for yourself, they're. Usually full of themselves,
right? But you can't have an ego and do

(01:15:49):
this. Work.
You have to be out of your own way.
No, there's no ego without we go.
Right, I think. That's one of the biggest
challenges that. When I'm training my clients,
they, they have a need to be right.
And like tell them you can't have a need to be right because
sometimes you're going to be given wrong information and
you're going to know it's wrong information.
But it's in the best interest ofthe client to share their wrong

(01:16:10):
information. No, I don't want to do.
That I don't. Really want to fight about it
so. I just love this.
I love helping people it. Just Oh my goodness, it's such a
good feeling all the time. It really is.
I I'm totally. Shift to that, I've been able to
share that at a point I'm operations director for a global

(01:16:31):
peace movement called Live and Let Live and I founded the the
new version of Planetary citizens to help create ways to
explore a holistic system in service delivery of this new
order that we're ascending into because chaos really, you know I

(01:16:54):
was having had a conversation with a guy named Howard Bloom
and he's not a believer in the second law of thermodynamics.
And this has nothing to do with what we're doing, but that
basically says that systems fallinto entropy.
You look at the universe it doesn't fall into.
Entropy. It's constantly refining into a

(01:17:17):
higher order, just like CR. So why is lying to ourselves
right? The only thing that.
Stays the same is change, yes, right.
And that's a wonderful wave to surf.
Isn't it? Or horse to ride.

(01:17:39):
Yes, maybe. How do you or how would you like
others to be able to look in themirror and see themselves for
their this coming future? I think that one of the biggest.
Challenges is. To look in a mirror, look into

(01:17:59):
your eyes and be able to tell you that you love you
unconditionally The first coupletimes I tried.
It I would just burst. Into tears and leave I could not
do it because I've been taught that I was never good enough and
so many negatives that I had associated with my my

(01:18:20):
upbringing. And when I finally got to that
point, it was, it was, it's so gratifying.
Now I go past a mirror and wink it myself.
Or do the, you know, the, the, the little finger gun and just
just doing that and seeing whereyou're at and trying to practice

(01:18:42):
that to where you can get good at it.
That can be life changing for people.
Absolutely. Life changing self love?
Absolutely. Wow.
Gosh, Terry. This has been an amazing
conversation. When you act, you act such good
you ask. Such good questions and you have

(01:19:04):
so much to contribute. That's just so on point.
I mean, it's just it's great. I hate that.
Thank you. You're welcome.
Oh, I. Had a moment of self.
Deprecation there that I. Had acknowledged and moved past
right? Don't do that well.
And therein is the. Example of self-awareness.

(01:19:25):
I caught it. He's like, Nope, don't go there.
You know, we can look really weird in public when we're doing
that. Oh yeah, yeah.
The point is that we do it the nice.
Thing is if you have an earbud. In and you're talking to
yourself, then people assume you're on the phone.
It works great. It does.
It does. And you just.

(01:19:47):
Do this sign if they try to. Communicate with you.
You know the phone. I'm on the phone, right?
Absolutely. Absolutely.
Terry, once again, thank you so much for being with us and and
being so spontaneous in doing so.
Oh, thank you so much for havingme.
It was so much fun. You're really great to work
with. Well, thank you.

(01:20:08):
Thank you very much since you are.
Well, and and I, oh gosh, love to be around the horses.
Oh, God, yeah. They're just.
They're just amazing. I've got one.
We've just been horsing around today anyway and.
Got one that one of my horses. I'm sorry, one of my horses
boughs. And the other horse?

(01:20:28):
Does zippers, Velcro and facials.
She gives you a facial. They're so silly sweet.
Well, namaste and in LA catch and thanks for sticking with us
for this episode of One World ina New world.
I'm Zen Benefil, your host, and thanks to Terry J for being with
us today, and we will see you next time.

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