Ep 196 - Unity in Diversity is the KEY to a Better Future - Professor M.S. Rao - One World in a New World - Apocalyptic Chats

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Rao. He is a 21st century philosopher
and the father of soft leadership.
He's written several books, SoftLeadership, A New Direction to
Leadership, See the Light in You, and Strategies to Build
women Leaders Globally. He is a contributor to the
Entrepreneurial Leadership Network in Entrepreneur Media.

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human experience. So, Professor Rao, glad to have
you with us. I I've been looking forward to
this conversation. Thank you for being with us.
It's a true honor to be on this show and and I respect your time
and I apathize your compulsions.But despite all the compulsions,

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he invited me to to speak. So it's a true honour to speak
about my health challenges and various other aspects in this
episode. Absolutely.
And this is part of that inner and outer bridge that we talked
about it. And you know, we're bereft of
talking about the inner conversations that we have or
the inner experiences that we have, often for fear that we're

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going to be deemed in some way non functional in life because
of it. Now with you, you know, your
development into leadership and we'll get into your your health
challenges in a bit. But when when when you were
younger, there had to have been some manifestations, some

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experience of interconnectednessthat you have.
And I and I know your culture and tradition has a lot of that
involved as well, but what was your personal experience of the
interconnectedness with life that began your journey?
So let me briefly just myself sothat that gives proper, proper

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clarity about my profession and my life.
My name is Professor MSR, I haveordered 54 books and I have 44
years of divers for experience including Indian books, business
teaching and training. I'm a late gloomer, dyslexic,
ADHD, OCD and add to that I had a brain stroke.

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I don't have two Wheeler, I don't have four Wheeler and I
was born into a toxic family andgrew up in a toxic environment.
Unfortunately, I had a brain stroke in the year 2021 and
despite all the challenges, I rose from the ashes like
Phoenix. I'm 62 years old.

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Of course this is just a number In the year 2022 and I had a
brain stroke and my right post of the body was totally
paralyzed during during the COVID.
Then I gradually I I recovered but still I have healthy
challenges. My my right shoulder and my
right hand has been numb and I can't take with my right hand

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and I can't eat with my right hand.
So lots of challenges I have in my life and I made my demo as a
non fictional other there 2010 and I started.
Let's trace back before we before we get so much into the
future, Professor. Let's go back to when you were
young, because this is how we start with everyone.

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How did you notice in in your early years that there was more
to life than just the physical world?
That there was an inner interconnection that you had
with reality that maybe others didn't see or experience.
You see, at days of 18 I had a, a, a, a dream to solve my

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country. And then I joined EDA was that
was a military I joined and before that in the childhood I
had a asthma patient and I was alittle built and I was not
healthy. So I had lots of challenges as a
child, as a child and I was dyslexic and ADHDOCD And so lots

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of challenges I had and but morethan 10 * I survived from death.
That means I was close to death more than 10 times in my life.
So that means there is some power or some hidden power or
spark that yeah, it would. Seem like you know, if you're
that challenged and you know youhave these opportunities arising

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in multiple, you know situations, the fortitude that
you must have internally to be tested in that way, it's got to
be huge. So how did you navigate through
that? What was the consistent thread

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that that brought you back to life again?
I I don't know what what is the reason, but I feel there is some
given force. But if you do, hang on just a
second, professor, right When I hear a question, you know,
somebody asked questions. Somebody says I don't know, you
know about you. Yeah.

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Right. So I'm going to dig, dig a
little deeper because you know what?
If you did know, right, what would it be?
What do you believe might have been the thread that kept you
coming back? Yeah.
So maybe some different force and some spark, something that

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was pulling me. And because of that, I, I
started overcoming the challenges and I was leading
from the front. And I can't clearly specify why
I LED my life. Of course, everybody's born with
some purpose. Like anybody else, I was born
with some purpose. So to provide meaning for the

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word. So, so I was distinct for doing
something big. Maybe because of that, you know,
I survived more than 10 times. I was close to death more than
10 times, but I survived every time.
Maybe some hidden power, divine force or spiritual powers, they
were, they were pulling me. They were encouraging me to

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bounce back the the the latest challenges I had.
Was we talked about purpose, maybe that you had a design or a
divine design that was worthy ofgoing through the trials and
tribulations that you did in order to understand the
challenges that we face? Yeah, every time I was being

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tested time to time and, and I was, I was trying to pass the
tests and I was overcoming the challenges.
So, so lots of challenges, lots of troubles I encountered.
But whenever I had troubles, I was, I was troubleshooting and I

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was bouncing back that again, I was having some challenges.
So it's part of the life becauselife is not linear.
Life is not a straight line. Life is not a cakewalk.
Life is full of ups and downs. So.
So my life was certainly. Not linear right there.
There's that aspect of, you know, spiral dynamics, right?

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Life's a spiral. It's not linear and it's
certainly not or it's non linear.
And there's also there's an interesting group out of Europe
that's sharing a lot of things that bringing together non
linear, the neurodiverse thinkers and many of those
right, the dyslexia that gives you an opportunity to learn

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things differently than others. Yet with that, the others who
don't have that kind of challenge don't really
understand the value that it holds in the diversity of
thinking that it brings to any situation.

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Yeah, you. Actually in leadership.
Yeah, yeah, you said rightly so.I think this dyslexia was a
challenge, but for me it's an opportunity.
And if you look at Richard Branson, he too had a dyslexic
and many people they have dyslexia.
But I think recently this rich Richard Branson from UK and he

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started a school that is a dyslexic school for dyslexic,
dyslexic people. So that he is promoting because
he himself was a dyslexic and even I was even I am a dyslexic.
So everyone has challenges, everyone has some learning
disabilities, but we have to work on the we have to work on

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the challenges. It's part of the genuine.
Well and with your challenges too, it also gave you certain
understanding of the challenges that others face it, it
broadened your horizon to develop the soft leadership.
Soft leadership, right? Soft leadership.

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Oh good. You are rightly talking about
soft leadership. So in that, how did you, as you
proceeded from your teens and, and early development, what
kinds of thoughts and, you know,coming out of those, the
challenges that you faced in, inthe near death experiences and,

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and those kinds of situations, how did you reach into the
depths of your being and pull out the, the kernels of salience
and truth and, and connectivity that got you into that next
phase of your life? See every face was a challenge

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in my life because first of all I was born into a toxic family.
That was one challenge and second thing was I dyslexic.
I am dyslexic. Second aspect, third thing you
know I was not provided with a regular education because I was
a college dropout. At days of 18I joined the Indian

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Air Force to solve my country. So that was the first step in my
life and luckily I came out of the toxic environment and grew
as a healthy citizen and as a leader in the military in the
Indian Air Force. So it was a turning point in my
life. So after I joined in a first
then I I was AI was not even a graduate.

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I. Then I started learning.
Then I was reading because I wasgetting limited money at that
time. With the limited money, what I
was doing, I was supporting my parents.
And then again, because I was getting money from the military
and I was getting free food, free shelter, everything, and I

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was getting money from my Air Force, that money I was giving
to my parents. So that's how I supported my
parents. So this is the step first up,
first up in my life, because my parents were totally desirable
and my father was litigant and very lit, very problematic,
alcoholic, and my mother was a very toxic woman.

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So like this, you know, lots of challenges I had, but still as
a, far as a, as a, as a, as a son, you know, I had to support
my parents and I supported with the limited money because in
those days I was getting very limited amount at that time
salary. So every month I was supporting,
every month I was sending money to support my parents.

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So like that I did it then againafter I joined.
The right thing, right accordingto what you felt needed to be
done and and your culture supports that too.
Yeah, any culture, whether Indian culture or American
culture, we have to support parents.
So that's what I did it. But unfortunately I I was

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misused and backstabbed by my own siblings.
So lots of challenges I encountered in my life.
So it was a very big blow in my life.
That was the challenge. So not to trust the people
blindly, that was the one thing,did you?
Find that in that and, and I know that that had to have been
just an excruciating process because really, as I've

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mentioned before, we, we just want to love and be loved,
right? So in that recognition, it gave
you the tools to question why that's happening.
What kind of answers did you getfrom that?
Because I would have Was there other questions that you asked
other than, you know, why is this happening and what can I do

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about it? So everyone thinks like that,
what we can do? Why me only?
It happens for everyone. Everyone has a story, everyone
has a unique story and no two stories are alike because
everyone has their own story. So my story is unique, my
journey is different. But I was misuse.

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I was let down by my own family members.
So lots of challenges I encountered and that too I, I
did go to the next level. After I joined the military, I
was getting limited money that Isupported my parents.
Then again, what happened? I joined, I started studying of
my own because I was in the military.
I military life was very tough and very challenging and what

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then? I was going for education
because I I started learning of my own.
I acquired 6 qualifications after I joined the Air Force,
right? And all these qualifications
were through private education, not through regular education.
People may think that I acquiredmy qualifications from Harvard
or, or Cambridge, but the fact was that I was a college

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dropout. I started English is English is
not my mother tongue, right? That was a big challenge and I
was speaking in Telugu and I hadto learn every movement and that
too healthy challenges and lack,lack of money, lack of
opportunities. And I served in the Indian Air

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Force in the lowest rank of a couple.
People might think that I was anofficer in the in the military,
but I served in the lowest rank of a couple.
That was one more challenge, money problem.
Then I started with my Telugu language, not English language.
I had to mug up or I had to learn English.

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Then again I had to adapt or learn by myself and and I had to
do my duty in the military. Then leftover time I was going
for education and learning and Ivisited libraries to acquire
knowledge. I had passion for knowledge.
Three things I do in my life. First thing is I go to temples,

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pray God. Second thing, I visit libraries
wherever I go. I go to libraries because I'm a
conscious learner. Third thing is that I, I go to
gym for the last 40 years, I'm going to gym.
So these are the three qualitiesthat pulled me up to this level.
I'm, I'm 62. Despite having all the

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challenges, I bounced back. Why?
Because of my military habits and my discipline and education
or positivity or positive psychology, whatever you can
call it, all these things led meto overcome all the challenges.
But again, I had one more challenge.

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I had a brain stroke in the air,2021.
So it happens for everyone. But for me, my life was full of
struggles and sufferings, betrayals.
So that's why I'm now I'm planning to I started writing my
memoir was entitled Survival. So this will talk about turning

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your scars into stars. That is converting your threats
into opportunities. So that the basic theme of this
meme. This is a short portion of
autobiography. So I started writing my own
meme. He talks about my brain stroke

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and then betrayal and my health challenges and then how I am
trying to recover from the challenges.
So these are all the things I'm highlighting.
Good. Good.
Now back to your your three things.
You say you go to temple. Yeah, but is this a Hindu
temple? Yeah, I'm AI was born as a

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Hindu. But I go to I, I the Hindus.
I, I go to, No, I go to church also Sunday.
Sunday I visit RC Roman Roman Catholic.
So you bridge worlds, so you canbridge in worlds.
That's great. Now as I understand the Hindu,

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it's based on the Vedas, right? Where the and so the Vedas
basically as I understand it, correct me if I'm wrong, the
essence of that is that we're all divine threads, Incarnate,
connected to source and capable of God consciousness.
Yeah. So in that we have that immense

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ability to be whole, right, no matter what.
We're given all kinds of challenges like you have.
And it reminds me, you know, twopeople, one near and dear, my
wife who suffered a stroke and and as a piano pedagogue, you
know, and that was really her right side of her body was

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paralyzed. Took her three years to learn
how to talk and play again the day that was in 2008.
Today you can't tell the difference and of course she was
challenged with the she came to America speaking Russian.
She had to learn had some English, but you know, she was
thrust in the midst of an English speaking world that she
had to. Now the other person that I

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think it's specifically particular to you is she had
there was a problem with her legand the surgery somehow it
caused nerve damage and they wanted to ache her leg and she
said I am going to walk again. Now it took her, I want to say 3

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maybe four years for the nerves to heal in her leg and her and
to regain full use of it along with getting it back to the
normal size. So that kind of fortitude, that
will, that faith in oneself and their ability to heal, because

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neither one of those two had physical therapy, they had no
outside help. It was sheer determination and
faith and trust in their own ability to heal.
So as have you noticed that in your own process because you're
what, three years, four years into it now?

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Four years, four years, OK. Have you noticed this kind of
internal conversation that you're having with self as far
as. Yeah, yeah, Yeah.
You have asked for the right question because I have internal
dial up, right? Sometimes I talk to myself.
Why me only? I think we talked to ourselves.

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Wait we got 70,000 thoughts a day and I think you know most of
those are about self right? Yeah, 70% thoughts, but
unfortunately no. Yeah, your your research is
correct. Around 70,000 thoughts we get,
but mostly people get native thoughts.
This is the problem with the people.
But we should convert the nativethoughts into positive thoughts

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because I'm a psychologist and I'm another, so I'm a motivator.
So definitely, you know, I convert native things into
positive things. And you got to moderate yourself
too, that that's the first work is on self, the self love.
The you know, we talk about thatphrase self love and a lot of
people think, wow, that's prettyhedonistic, right?

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Well, it isn't you know you're talking the embracing your
being, loving yourself for everything that you are without
of judgement. Only then can you truly love
another. Now in that process of the 70
thousand thoughts and probably 2thirds, 3/4 of them being self

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deprecating, right? I'll just how do you find the
thought adjuster in you to change that thinking?
How did that happen? Yeah, OK.
Just let me, let me interrupt this conversation.
You know Ayn Rand, She's she wasa Russian.

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Ayn Rand. Very familiar.
Yeah, I read her books. You know, she's Russian and she
settled in, I think California somewhere.
And I read her books and becauseshe talked about self love, self
other aspects, Anne ran. She's very powerful.
And some of the Indians they admire Anne ran.

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OK, so that's a different topic because you're talking when you
talk about self love. I suddenly recall Anne ran
because she was in Russia, then she became American citizen and
she lived in Hollywood actually.Sure.
So it's about I am doing a little bit research about
because now I'm planning to write a book on my philosophy

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also, but not now after four or five years, I want to write one
more book on so back. To the question, back to the
question, what thought adjustments did you make or have
you noticed that you've made in your process towards healing and

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addressing the thousand thoughts?
Yeah, thank you for circling back to the story and also to
the incident. See, I believe in the power of
subconscious mind. So when I had a brain stroke.
Has a lot to say about that one.Yeah, when I had a brain stroke

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and I was on the bed, people, doctors thought that, you know,
I won't survive. I was telling to myself that
yes, I'm all right, I'm all right.
I was giving commands to my subconscious mind because I go
account to my subconscious mind.I everything I do based on my

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subconscious mind and also when I do when we we are going to
have we are having this conversation now for that also
24 hours. I worked hard by looking at back
by looking back to your entries,so many entries from various
entries. You know, I have research.

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So one way to get the idea of conversation and also to learn
the things, that's one thing. Because when we talk for one
hour or whatever it is, so 24 hours, I research a lot about
one particular interview. That's how I do it.
I'm very meticulous in doing thethings right now coming to this

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point, I have the power of subconscious mind and based on
that, you know, I, I can convertany native thing into a positive
thing. That was the basic achievement
in my life. And after the brain stroke also,
I just bounced back about my illness.
Or if I have some money issues or if I have some more various

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other challenges. So I give commands to my
subconscious mind before going to bed.
So, so when I give commands to my subconscious mind before
going to bed next time morning, automatically I do things in a
right way and a positive way. That's why I'm successful even
today. This is the secret weapon.

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I'm following it. Now, and that's an awesome
process to have before you go tobed and programming yourself
now. Programming.
Yeah, Correct word. Correct word.
Yeah, you are putting it in a right way.
Correct. Absolutely.
It's like you're putting it in the thoughtmosphere for your own
higher self to operate in. Now, what about the moments do

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you find that, you know, do you catch yourself in the negative
thoughts and, and as you're having them in a moment?
And how do you recognize those and then shift them?
Because I know, you know, studying psychology and, and
with the depth of the experienceand understanding you have of

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the human psyche, how, how do you specifically recognize,
honor and then change those thoughts?
It's very simple because when you have goals, what happens?
You can remove the data. Thoughts.

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So I set my goals. I set SMART goals, SMART,
measurable realistic. So like that.
You know I set us goals when we help time Yahoo so we I'm.
Aware of SMART goals, I use themall the time.
Yeah, sometimes I'm forgetting. Not that I'm so smart, but.

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No, no, actually I was very fastin speaking for the last four
years. I'm speaking very slowly because
of the brainstorm and and I'm using blood thinner now aspirin
I'm using regularly. I have to take aspirin to about
the second stroke in my life. So I'm taking aspirin and I'm

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recovering after the brain stroke.
I'm I'm happy that I'm starting back to the same energy levels.
That's the thing. Now coming to this native to
positive that's setting goals isthe best way of the thing.
Best thing is to set the goals. When you set the goals even I

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share with my students also set goals so that you can remove
negative thoughts and fill your mind with positive thoughts.
That's how we can prove as a illness itself.
So this is 1 aspect. Second thing I share with
everyone is that to have utilizethe power of subconscious mind,
program your mind in the right way so that you get positive

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results. So you can it's the power of
whatever you want. You will get that the power of
attraction. I think you also I also you,
yeah. You have watched your video also
about the law of attraction. Yeah, I told you, you know, I do
a lot of research. There was a topic for one hour
on law of attraction. I don't know the host you

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attended in that law of attraction.
So, so that means you can understand the kind of efforts I
have put it, but only thing I'm well, this is law of.
Attraction too it it operates onsimple principles of physics,
right? You told you told the same
thing. Yeah, Yeah.
In the quantum world, which we're understanding better now

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because of the science development in the end.
And so it's basically proving what the betas said, right?
And everything's vibration, all right.
So we can't think our way through vibration for us to
believe that's possible. You know, that's the the thought
comes after the vibration, afterthe sense, after the question.

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Yeah, question. Takes thinking, right and it's
and then that how we feel, how we think, how we are, right, The
energy we carry, the evidence ofwhether we're on target or not
is going to show up in front of you.

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Have you noticed that? Yeah.
I I. Remember, let me ask you this.
Let's get specific. Do you remember a moment where
you had a thought, a knowing a point of order within you?

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I guess that that is so powerfulthat it only happens in an
instant and you almost feel likethere's a heartbeat or a pulse
in your body simultaneously whenit happens, right?
I see a nod in your head. Right so.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You recognize that.
OK, how do we, how do you find that place and what have you

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noticed when you're there? And specifically, can you
identify a situation where that happened and you notice the
result in the outer world? Yeah, we notice and we feel it.
I don't know instinct or there are certain words.

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I'm not. I'm confused.
It's the instinct or that intuition or certain words are
that they're related to the theme only.
So yeah, you. Yeah, I feel it.
Whatever you're telling, I'm able to.
I'm not able. To.
What I'm trying to get to is forour audience sake, right?
Because we hear these things and, and we share these stories

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and they're not so well defined because we really haven't had a
chance to talk about them, right?
Really drill down into the essence of it and explore what's
really there on a very simple level as as well as the
complexity. Because when you can develop the
simplicity like Einstein said, right?
If you can explain it to a 5 year old, if you can't explain

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something to a 5 year old, then you really don't understand it.
So how do we get to that five year old place?
What how did you, which comes back to the very simple, what
did you do? How did you think and what
reflected back to you from the outer environment that you were
in? Can you name something like

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that? I, I know that's putting a lot
of pressure on you to, you know,to drill deep and define.
I think it's something of value that you have the ability to
share. Yeah, my core values are
positivity and power of subconscious mind and the power

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of universe. If you like echo, if you do
good, good will come back to you.
So these are all basic premises I stick.
To well, this is all the the theory stuff what I'm looking
for. The theory's great.
How do we make it practical? What evidence can we cite of the
process that we can then build upon to assist others as well as

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ourselves? Because the more we drill down
and find commonality, find congruence, find coherence, the
better. That ripples through the
audience as well as you and I. No, it's very complicated thing
to explain In is it my car? In my I don't know.

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In my in my car. Let's let's, let's in a moment.
Let's experiment. Perfect.
Let's make it simple. Yeah.
But if it were simple. Usually I speak, I, I make
things I if any complex things are there, I'll make them very
simple because I was a professor.

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Sure, I understand that any complicated thing, I make it.
I make it very simple and straight.
So usually, usually it's not that.
Yeah, yeah, I'm loving this. Yeah, in the presentation of
that. So as as you've experienced, can
you identify a time, a place, a circumstance where you were able

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to recognize your own power and magnetize a result?
I'm not able to explain. This is very challenging.
So bring it down to the five year old bubble.
Was there an opportunity that you had where you recognized the

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changing of your thinking and something that happened as a
result of the change of your thinking that was evident to you
that it was your change of thinking that caused it?
Yeah, that's correct. You see, attitude is the main

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thing that will, that will play a crucial role that will your
attitude will determine your attitude.
So attitude is everything. That's what I believe so.
Sure. Attitude matters so because when
you have a very positive attitude, strong attitude and

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the right attitude, you can transform the people and you
bring the changes and you can impact the world in the right
way. So your attitude is one of the
aspects I I emphasize not only in books in and also in my
educational aspects. Sure, that's what I.
Attitude is everything, especially in Business Today.

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You know you hire for attitude, innovation, creative capacity
rather than skill set. Because skill.
Set high for skill set. Yeah, I slow 555I slow 5 for
something like that, you know. Pardon me, I misspoke high.
Slowly, you do look. For skill set but it's a

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trainable 1. High, high, high for skills,
train for attitude. Something at that time.
Sure. I I often talk.
I often because I thought I emphasize this one that called
HR, human resources. High for attitude, train for
skills. Yeah, correct.
I got it. High for attitude and train for

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skills. Yeah, correct.
OK. Yeah, This is the slogan.
HR HR slogan that means human resource slogan.
Yeah. Thank you.
And now I'm, I'm, I'm developingclarity after the brainstorm.
Yeah. Yeah, this.
So in the yeah, experience of this, as you were developing and

(36:43):
becoming educated and working onyour, your PhD and, and what was
your focus in the psychology of self, I suppose what prompted
you to, to really go into psychology and to discover the
value there? No, psychology is the area which

(37:08):
which is about the people and their mind, how people behave so
we can predict. So this is human psychology.
This is one of the areas I mentioned which is related to
soft skills again. And I had my speech in the soft
skills, which is related to psychology.

(37:31):
Yeah, my specialization is soft skills actually in that, you
know, soft, soft skills is one of the areas.
Absolutely. Well and the soft skills and the
hard skills, so you know, very similar.
I have an MBA which is heavy andhard skills, right structure,

(37:52):
organization and all of that. Yeah, yeah.
Then I have a Master of Arts andOrganizational Management.
I know. Soft skills.
I know I read your video also I wanted your video.
I just wanted to differentiate the the differences to edify
what you were saying. It is the value of the soft
skills, right? You've got to in leadership,

(38:15):
you've got to understand both. Right, Yeah, You see you are
talking about soft skills. Yeah, this is the book talks
about soft skills and soft leadership which is again
related to this skills and various other aspects, attitude,
all these things are involved inthis.
So when we talk about this particular MBA, then psychology,

(38:39):
then again soft skills, I think some of the aspects you are also
aware like soft skills and hard skills.
And we need soft skills and hardskills to survive, not only the
workplace everywhere. And we are depressing more in
soft skills in the current worldand lessen technical skills

(39:02):
because this soft skills are just like interpersonal skills
and which are related to emotional intelligence.
So the soft skills, we are very much focused.
Emotional intelligence. Yeah.
This was started by, This was started by, I think 1995.
It was started by Daniel Goldman.
I think he started the book, He revolutionized emotional

(39:25):
intelligence. He took, he took up only one
area that is emotional intelligence and he
revolutionized and this article in HBR is very famous.
So like that, you know, people, when we want to succeed in life,
we have to take one particular area and work on that.
We have to do research. So when you look at this Daniel

(39:46):
Goldman, he's in my connection, right?
LinkedIn. So he, he also published a very
excellent article on emotional intelligence and he published a
book on emotional intelligence. And he stick to only one area
that is emotional intelligence because there are too many areas
in this world. So in my case, I'm a Jack of all

(40:09):
and master of none. This is the problem in the
sense. I have a little different
philosophy. There's never too many, there's
never too much. It's our belief and that causes
us to pull back and, and resist,right?

(40:31):
We are told even in your culture, the Hindu culture, the
Vedas, you know, the, the, there's abundance available and
it's only our thinking that keeps it from happening.
The ways that the little things that we think that we feel like

(40:53):
those, you know, too much, too many.
Oh, I can't do that. I'm not enough imposter
syndrome, right? Oh, I don't have, you know, I
don't have the skills for that. Why not just step into it and
find out Experiment. Yeah, I know, right?

(41:13):
How do you? How do you suggest you know,
because there's a lot of fear involved there, fear failure,
right? And and failure that is like you
don't learn if you don't fail. The thing is, if you never try,
you never will. So how do you get beyond in, in
the psychology of this of the soft skills, right?

(41:36):
How do you promote that movementof the changing of the mind,
right Metanoia? How do you facilitate that in
the development of soft skills? How do you, because there's an
awareness, there's an empathy, but then there's an interaction

(41:59):
that has to take place that demonstrates that you have the
awareness and the empathy, right?
How do you find that? How do you promote and and
express the ability to do that? It's a great question.
This words, you know, they are interlinked.

(42:19):
So you are talking about empathy, we are talking about
emoticities, you are talking about soft skills.
Then again psychology like that,these are all interlinked.
But again, the base, base of allthese things, the base for all
these things is attitude. That's what I think that the

(42:42):
core of everything is attitude. If you have a right attitude,
everything will fall into the place.
We have a negative attitude, everything will go wrong.
So we have to emphasize on positive attitude so that things
will fall into the place. That's what we are looking at.
Whether you talk about soft skill or art skill or
psychology, various, various terminology that we are talking

(43:06):
about. So we have to emphasize purely
from the perspective attitude because attitude, let me share
with you one fact. Last century a lot of research
was done what makes people to succeed.
So one word that is attitude, what makes the people succeed.

(43:30):
Last the last century lot of research was done Why people
succeeded in this? Because of one word that is
attitude. So that means you can understand
how much you importance where togive it to the attitude.
So what's the? Attitude managed by right?
Would that be belief systems that manage our attitude?

(43:51):
No, your attitude, everything, whether it's your poor system,
value system, value belief system, whatever it is,
everything comes to this. Your attitude, whether it's a
positive attitude or negative attitude, everything depends on
the attitude. If you have a positive attitude,
you will get everything positiveand negative attitude.
Everything you will go negative depends on attitude.
Well, this is all great and I hear you.

(44:15):
And let me let me add. That's a 30,000 foot view.
How do we bring it down to the five year old practical level in
everyday life? No, that's you have to transform
the mindset of the people. That's the only way.
There is no way. You have to transform mindset of
the people. Whether it's a 5 year old or 50

(44:38):
years old, whatever it is, you have to transform the mindset of
the people, whether it's the students or middle level
management or senior level management.
So let's look at from the mindset of the people to how do
you do it? Yeah, we should have a right
mindset, a tool set and skill set.

(44:59):
These are all interlinking. Again these.
I think you missed the question.You're still speaking to an
audience. I'm talking about you.
How do you do it? Let's get, you know, specific.
What is your process? What do you change?
What are the kinds of thoughts that you entertain in that

(45:25):
positive framework? See, we have to emphasize that
this growth mindset that that matters I.
Understand. OK.
You're still I'm still missing. Hey, I'm miscommunicating
because you're giving me answers.
That it's not you are, you are, you are you are communicating

(45:45):
clearly. You are not You are on the right
wavelength. Only thing I'm not able to catch
up. OK, the problem is we're
catching up. That's fine.
This is the damage, right? You're correct, you're correct.
So I'm struggling to correct thedots.
That's a challenge in view of myhealth.

(46:07):
Challenges. Sure, I understand that and I
hope you don't. You're offended by my
persistence asking the questions, right?
And. I'm.
I'm because I think you've got the value that the audience
deserves to hear and it it's from that personal side of
things, because you're speaking from the theory, from the

(46:28):
knowledge. And yes, we all understand this,
but in order to make it personal, direct, authentic and
real, we need to be able to share what goes on inside of us
that may be helpful to the people listening.
For the audience, yeah. The the ultimate idea is to

(46:51):
share the valuable ideas and insights for the audience so
that they get benefited. Well, let's let's take an
instance where you've had some negative thought that's come up
or you know, something that you remember that kind of like
Massey says, a significant emotional event, right where

(47:14):
you're thinking you recognized it and you shifted it.
How what were the thoughts that you had prior, the negative
thoughts, let's say? And then what did you replace
those thoughts with on a very practical and?
Pragmatic this is what I stick to my story and aspect is that

(47:41):
I. Well, your story, it couldn't be
anybody else's, right? And I removed negative thoughts
and I removed negative thoughts from my mind and replaced my
mind with positive thoughts, right?
That's what I do it because people have got around 70,000
thoughts, whatever it is. Most of the thoughts are
negative thoughts. Most of the thoughts are

(48:04):
negative. Usually people have got negative
thoughts whether it's a glasses full or glasses are empty.
Not concerned about the. Glasses.
I've got the picture I can refill.
So in that perspective though, what's your most prevalent do
you think? Your most prevalent Self

(48:26):
deprecating thought. I'm not able to still justify my
ideas in a right way. That's a challenge.
So if if you were able to distill your ideas and, and
reach a place where you know you've, there's a consistent,

(48:47):
everything's a process, everything's habitual.
We change our habits, we move from one to another, we replace
them. Sometimes, you know, it takes a
while. In that process though, we
recognize certain repeating patterns that we seek to change,
one of them being how we think, right?

(49:08):
So in that process, there's usually 1-2, maybe three
thoughts, self deprecating thoughts that we have about
ourselves that are causing the majority of the problems, right?
What might, and I'm not saying this is the case for you, but in

(49:30):
those in the recognition of yourown self-awareness and how you
are thinking about you, What have you found to be your
nemesis in how you think about yourself?
See, Socrates said on the statement.

(49:56):
I still stick to that one. And unexamined life is not worth
living. So we need to examine our life,
right? So this I think that everybody
knows this statement. I follow Socrates very much
because I am also doing researchabout Socrates nowadays.
Sure. So we want to examine our it's.

(50:18):
Like it's like, you know, it's so this life is about questions.
Yeah, yeah, we are. We we need to examine our lives.
So for that we should have self-awareness and and we have
to continuously examine our lifeso that we can find meaning for
our lives. So like that, you know, we have

(50:39):
to examine a continuously where to do it.
So then only we can find more and more persons when we have
more and more persons. That's what you're doing.
You know, you're like a philosopher, you know, you're
asking questions. It's nice so when you only you
get answers only when you ask question the right questions.
So you are you are asking the right process.
But only thing I am not able to respond.

(50:59):
It's my my challenge. It's my challenge.
So I am admitting you very honestly but your positions are
very genuine, authentic. You are asking me the right
questions but I am trying to do my best and give my best ideas,
insights in the best possible way.
But still we are not able to hitthe hit the bull's eye.

(51:23):
OK, somewhere where? Let's try and hit the bull's
eye. Maybe I need to clarify my
intention in asking the question.
No, it's your question is right,no intention is right, question
is right. But we are trying to.
I am trying to hit the bull's eye, but somewhere we are

(51:45):
missing out. It's part of the process because
this is a conversation we're having.
This is a conversation. We're having generative
conversations are valid, right they're this because.
This is a conversation we shouldhave it.
The more we the more questions will come and the more knowledge
we'll get, and the more we are provoked, the more knowledge

(52:09):
we'll get, the more knowledge wewill share with the world, and
we'll build a better world. The idea of doing all these
things is to share our knowledgeand build a better world.
Sure, but how You but not? Just share.
I would. Part of my intention is that
this is always, you know, we're helping to heal each other.

(52:29):
Yeah. The world's full of trauma, and
these conversations help alleviate that trauma because it
resolves it. It brings things to the surface
and resolve. And when in quantum physics,
that shift in vibration then ripples through the
thoughtmosphere and creates change.
Positive change, right? Would you agree?

(52:52):
Yeah, I I do agree. I do agree.
OK, so wonderful place to begin,right?
This is part of that, you know, beginner's mind, right?
See, because it's like in a meeting of two intellectuals,
you and I are intellectuals and we are sharing our knowledge and

(53:12):
we are having a conversation. It's a very meaningful and
constructive dialogue. The more.
Dialogue we have just from stating the intellectual side,
right? That's living from the head up
or from the shoulders up, right?And that that's we get lost in
that intellectual space, in my opinion sometimes I know I do.

(53:33):
And, you know, part of the life.Part of the life, so how?
To bring that down into the body, right?
Because this is the process you're in right now, redefining
your body function right as you're in your healing.
So I'm really hoping that there's something that we can

(53:57):
discover and maybe nudge to emerge in, in how this process,
this healing process can be attenuated and maybe even
further activated in you throughthe energy exchange, right?
Because it's all energy. And, and me seeing you as whole,

(54:20):
you seeing you as whole, that agreement, how can we bring that
agreement into a more physical manifestation of it with the
return of the sensation to your arm, for instance?
Yeah, see, everything comes downfrom the mind, so if your mind

(54:45):
is there, everything will fall into place so that even a.
Tremendous. It's a supercomputer, right?
It has so much capacity, you know, and like, you know, even
Jesus teaching, you know, the you can be healed in the blink
of an eye. It just takes faith right?
Now, that may not happen in the blink of an eye, right?

(55:09):
But the blink of an eye is also perspective, right?
Depending on how old you are, right, you're looking at through
the eye of God, a blink of an eye could be a millennia.
So, but in our human terms, times much more truncated, it
seems. How do we how do you conceive

(55:34):
maybe of how we can take the theprinciples that that you're
talking about writing about with, you know, the soft
leadership with the seeing the light in you.
This is what that's all about, right?
You know, developing the leadership, the this global
leadership comes from within in this in my opinion and as we see

(56:01):
the ending and and perhaps already end of the Kali Yuga
moving into the Dwarpa Yuga stage.
How do you know? How do you know?
Yeah, this is Indian way of saying it's a natural.
How do you know this Hindu mythology?

(56:23):
So this is the book. OK, sure.
This is the see the light in you.
OK, fine. So now we are into Kaliyuga.
Well, it, it seems like one of the guys I interviewed who
practices Vedantic astrology, his teacher had said that we're
out of Kali Yuga, that we've begun Dwarfa Yuga, which is the

(56:45):
next phase. Very much similar to what the
Mayan calendar says of being, you know, in the close of an
age, in the beginning of a new age.
And there's a 50 year window according to the Mayan calendar.
I don't know that the Hindu calendar, the Kali Yuga and
Dwarpi Yuga is defined in that way, that specific way.

(57:07):
I think it's just it's more a reflection of how society
appears. Yeah, got it.
As far as referencing the calendar.
So in this new paradigm that we're experiencing, you know,
you happen to have kind of a precursor or maybe part of this
sequestration and self examination period that the

(57:30):
pandemic caused, right? I don't put up doors for a lot
of people to consider. What?
Is. To come.
It's a it's, it's I, I can say it is somewhat like Kaliyug.
I got the Indian way of telling me it's Kali because there's a
lot of people, many people died.There was a disaster even I I

(57:53):
was a victim of brain stroke andCOVID.
So life taught me many things and especially.
Your own Kaliyuga, right? Yeah.
So on a level and experiencing things because that's, you know,
if we're part of the universe, we're going to experience.
It and. How we lose on.
I realized how frazil the life is off the bridge stroke.

(58:16):
Otherwise I was taking everything for granted.
I'm telling you very clearly, I was very aggressive in the
sense, you know, I was very enesitic because daily I go to
gym, I do work out and I morning4:00 I wake up night 10:00, I
sleep. I'm very much calculated and I'm

(58:37):
I don't take outside food. I take only home food and I
don't go outside. I only read books and I'm with
my wife. So that kind of family I LED and
this brain stroke ruined my health everything.
So it's a very good. Challenge.
Absolutely. You're feeding yourself from
outside. Now let's go inside for a minute

(59:01):
and back to the Hindu tradition,the Shabda.
The Shabda. Right.
You're familiar. So as I understand it, it is the
combination of the life energy vibrations on the planet, is
that correct? OK, yeah.

(59:22):
So this is a sound. It's called the sound current
from what I understand, something we can hear now, it's
said to be of a very high pitched sound, right?
Sensation. Not just a sound, it's a
sensation. Do you know that I mentioned my

(59:43):
experience as a teen, that I've carried this sound in my head
and my being for 50 some odd years now and I didn't really
understood what it was. You know, initially you think
it's tinnitus and then you realize, Oh no, there's
fluctuation, there's moving fromone side to the other.
What's going on here? And it generally only happens

(01:00:05):
when you're in complete silence.Do you experience that Shabda or
the high pitched sound sensationwhen you meditate?
I do meditation. I did the meditation some I

(01:00:25):
think 4 hours back daily I do meditation.
Sure. When you go, when you're deep in
that meditation, do you sense the shabda?
Said the the sound because I it was totally blank.
When I do meditation, I was totally blank.
But in that blankness, right, there's never nothing.

(01:00:47):
Nothing. It was empty.
Right in that blankness. This is where, in my experience,
when you first begin to be in that silence, it often feels
like it's silence, but if you listen deeply, it's not silent

(01:01:07):
at all. There's that shabda, Shabda, you
know, I know Shabda. We, the sound current, it's
there. Our hearing is just not subtle
enough. Our listening is not subtle

(01:01:28):
enough to actually hear it. If we did, what might happen
based on what you know of your tradition and and your
development in psychology? No, no, let me correct this
statement. Listening and what they're
called hearing both are the hearing means possible and

(01:01:49):
listening is active. That's the difference between
sure. Now what is that called hearing?
Anyone, anyone can hear, anyone can hear.
But listening means we are paying attention, right?
That's one aspect. Now coming back to this
meditation I did some three years back daily agree because I

(01:02:10):
was told to take, because I havesome health challenges to work
on the challenges. So I started doing a meditation
some 3 hours back. Also I did because it, it, it
makes my mind very cool. So and I, I, I, I get lost in a
different world when I go for meditation.

(01:02:32):
And usually I, I had a high, high BP, high blood pressure
because of that high high blood pressure, I had a brainstorm,
right? So I was told by a doctor to go
do meditation daily so that you take less intake of salt and do
meditation so that you can keep your mind very good.

(01:02:55):
So I, I started doing meditation.
So, so when I do meditation, what happens?
I was totally blank. So I feel very happy and I so I
feel I was not excited, but I was very happy.
I would ask maybe next time you do your meditation.
Listen deeper. Listen deeper, see if you can

(01:03:17):
hear that and I would suggest bydoing so I.
Suspect. By doing so that when you tune
into that frequency that your arm will have a greater the

(01:03:43):
restoration will be truncated. I'll put it that way, right.
The time for your arm to come back, which I'm sure it probably
has to some degree already, right that it may just.
Yeah, yeah, I think your your point is right.
So I I. I don't know.
I'm offering that as like, OK, so you know, like when we're

(01:04:04):
this close and we're this deep in the awareness and the
recognition of each other, there's certain, you know,
subtle indicators prompting somethings that we need to share and
that stuff like that. That doesn't happen normally.
See. No, no.
Let me share with you about this.
This my my right shoulder and the right hand has been numb.

(01:04:30):
There was less of circulation. So I'm doing certain activities
so that there will be everythingwill be normal.
I'll be able to work on my numbness.
That's what I'm doing. I'm in that.
Process. That's all nerves.
Right, that's what, that's what That's numbness.
Numbness. I still, I have numbness.
It takes time. Right.

(01:04:51):
Sure. So that nevertheless.
Don't grow that. When the, when the, when the
blood circulation comes, what happens gradually I can work on
my numbness and then I'll be allright.
That's, that's, that's one thing.
Then I, I leveraged the power ofsubconscious mind with it.
And people when they have canceralso, they're curing.

(01:05:16):
Some people say due to power of law of attraction, some people
say that scientifically it is not correct.
Law of attraction is not correctscientifically that that's what
people are telling. There's a book titled Secret
SECRET that woman, I forgot thatname.
So there was a talk but it was not scientifically proved.

(01:05:38):
But still people believe about the law of attraction right?
But according. To this it's not just a lot.
This is what we call it today. Right.
As ye sow, shall, so shall ye reap.
That's Bible phrase. It's the same thing.
Yeah, right. If you give, if you give good,

(01:06:01):
good will come back to us, right?
Right. Yeah, as you saw, so you we,
yeah, it's not only Bible. Everywhere across the world,
cultures, religious, they talk about this.
If we do good, good will come back.
Life is a recall. And the challenges we face are

(01:06:24):
in the design of our soul so that we can grow.
And we don't necessarily understand that, oh, I guess
precursive conversation that we have before incarnating as to
what trials and tribulations we're going to have to go
through to find self, right? You know, that's kind of what if
we did know. And do we?

(01:06:46):
And I think there's probably some aspects as we further
understand consciousness and delve into that willingness to
explore it, that we can find some of these answers and that
we can restore a greater interconnectivity.
And, you know, it's apparent theuniverse really has no

(01:07:07):
anomalies. If we see them, then we're not
seeing it correctly. It's all perspective.
If we're all one and we're all connected to that one
consciousness individually doesn't eliminate the
individuality that we have. We don't have to give up
ourselves to become part of a whole.

(01:07:27):
We already are. We are already there.
We are already there, right? What we?
Have to do is understand our individuality and the specifics
of it, which is in our genetic code combined with our solar
frequency. So all those, all that

(01:07:47):
information is there. How do we tap into it?
That's one of the questions thatwe have.
Right, that's the question. And to tap.
How to tap and the? Overall knowledge base that we
have to date, edified by quantumphysics.
Also echoing the pedantic philosophy.

(01:08:10):
Then there's this logic that's no longer a leap to conceive
that it's possible that we can do so much more that we have so
many other bodies. I mean, even the in various
religions we talk Christianity right there.

(01:08:32):
There's many heavens, right? And all that was taken up to the
3rd heaven. Well, what's that mean?
Was he taken up on board a ship?Right.
And it seemed like the 3rd Heaven because there were beings
there that didn't, that weren't understood and he got
information from them to come back and share.
Right. There's a lot of that going on

(01:08:52):
today in completely different ways where we're having a
greater understanding of the magnitude of the life forms
across the universe that we've been oblivious of because we
think, you know, in just human terms.
So, you know, how do we expand this?

(01:09:14):
How do we, how do you consider that?
Because I know that in the work that you're doing, these are
considerations. What can I do best for the
world? How can I empower others?
And especially how can I empowerwomen?
What, what do we do? What?
What can we do? It's a challenge.

(01:09:42):
Yeah, it's a challenge. So if we had an opportunity to
just imagine how we might do that, or if you can imagine how
we might do that, how what does your imagination reveal?

(01:10:06):
Yeah. How would you see that?
But what would you see as potential evidence that we were
learning how to work together better and create a unified
field as a planetary consciousness?
We'll work on that. Hopefully I'll, I'll do a little
more research about the cosmic. I think you're an expert in

(01:10:31):
cosmic, cosmic knowledge. I believe so.
I which I'm not expert actually.So probably it will be a
different. I'll work.
Yeah. You're an expert in the cosmic
knowledge, right? I I don't know.
Because I. I know, I know stuff I've

(01:10:53):
experienced, stuff I can share from that place authentically.
I can question it. I can dig, dive deep.
I can play devil's advocate. I can play.
You know the the flag waver, right?
However, the whole process is humbling, right, because as much
as you find out, there's much more to know.

(01:11:15):
And it's that imagination, right?
Living in the liminal space, right, which is that space in
between the physical and the nonphysical.
And there's many other non physical realms or that seem non
physical because we're not vibrating at that rate.

(01:11:39):
If we were to vibrate at a higher rate, we might see more
worlds or be part of them, whichI think is part of what we're
being asked to do. Where are you living now?
I just want to ask you a question in USA which place we
are in Indiana? No, I grew up in Indiana.
I moved to Arizona. I'm in the Phoenix Valley area.

(01:12:02):
So I am. I have experienced literally the
Phoenix legend crashing and burning probably a dozen or so
times so far in the 40 years that I've been here.
I can literally say I've had my 40 years in the desert.
That's what I'm telling. I visited Arizona, yes, some two

(01:12:25):
months back I was in it was fullof dessert that hilarious.
You know, I visited then I visited Las Vegas.
You know, I visited that's also dessert Las Vegas, new new Las
Vegas and old Las Vegas, Arizona.

(01:12:46):
That water point also I went so we enjoyed full of full of
desert. Full of desert that is just
beautiful and. Then, then, then we went to
California, we went to Hollywood, we went by car, we
went by car that. Was a great way to travel.
I didn't see the scene so I I love.
We went. We went by a car.

(01:13:08):
We went by. We rented a car in Vegas.
Then we went to Arizona. Then again from there we went to
California. We visited Los Angeles.
OK. So you came down through, came
down 17, went out 10 to into Phoenix and then took 10 to LA.

(01:13:29):
Then again, we came to. I don't remember the the names
of the roads, but that's a beautiful drive.
Yeah. No, no.
Then again, we came to Vegas, then from Vegas to Seattle we
came by flight because I was in Seattle at that time, so.
So your climate there? What?

(01:13:49):
What's it like? It was very cold, very, very
cold now. Now I'm travelling.
I'm in India now. Now again, I'll go to Seattle.
OK. Yeah, that's so it's actually
it's night in India. I think it's morning there.
Yeah, Yeah, it's, it's afternoon.
It's afternoon, I think. Why is it?

(01:14:12):
Yeah. This has been a wonderful
journey that we've had travelling, you know, around the
world a couple of times and, andmaybe even further.
And, and I really appreciate thethe effort that you have made to
share what you know and, and theprocess you have.
And, and I'm honored that you'vejoined us and I sympathize and

(01:14:36):
empathize with your challenges in health and, and I trust that
that healing process will continue.
And I'm I'm excited about hearing the results.
I. I rose from the ashes like the
Felix you were talking about. The Felix you know I often use

(01:14:58):
the one liner. This too shall pass.
That's one, one statement. Absolutely.
This too shall transitory, temporary, and transitory.
You just I, I I, I, I used the two statements. 1 is I rose from
the ashes like a Felix. Then the second statement I say
that this two shall pass like COVID.

(01:15:18):
You know this two shall pass. Yeah.
So would that be like the the kernel of truth that you could
leave our audience with? As far as advice, what, what
would you offer for daily livingto our audience?

(01:15:39):
Could you repeat the question? I couldn't.
Sure, if you could or would givesome advice to our audience of
something. OK, OK, I got it.
See. Something they can do on a daily
basis. And yeah, The thing is very
simple. Be ambitious.
Don't be more ambitious. When you are more ambitious, you

(01:16:02):
are likely to cut the car now. So be ambitious and lead your
life ethically and mindfully too.
And respect to women, right? Because I have signed up for
hashtag he for sheep. I encourage women empowerment.
That's one more thing. And emphasize humanity,

(01:16:22):
emphasize empathy. And there is nothing greater
than humanity. So humanity is everything.
And we Indians believe in one, one, one thing that is the
entire world is 1 family. That means there is nothing like
Hindu, Hindus or Christians, Muslims like that.
We are one family. That's what I believe in.

(01:16:44):
So we call Vasudeva Kutumbakam. That means the entire world is 1
family. That's what we Indians believe.
I also stick to it. I will tell everyone that we are
one irrespective of languages, irrespective of nations,
irrespective of caste, irrespective of religions, we

(01:17:07):
are one and that's what I stick to it.
So let us emphasize humanity. Humanity is everything.
This is the message I can share with everyone.
Excellent. Thank you so much, and may we be
one people, one planet, one time.
Oh, right, You put it in a one. Yeah, put.
You put your number. You are very smart.

(01:17:28):
You know how to put it. In a I'm just lucky, right?
I know, yeah. One planet, one people.
I I was talking in a very lengthy.
And it's not my. Phrase you.
You have put it in a very simpleand straight forward language.
Yes, it's a true honor. I enjoyed this conversation
hopefully we'll have more and more conversations and different

(01:17:49):
topics I. Hope so.
And I'm, I'm if possible, you can interview me on about the
meme. I'm writing my meme about my
health challenges. So I started writing slowly,
typing with my left hand. So it takes time.
So this will be Yeah. So you.

(01:18:12):
Know let me leave you with this like my wife did when she had
her stroke and and her right side was paralyzed, right?
She used the piano every day andshe put her hand on the keys and
and willed her hand to play. I suggest trying that with your

(01:18:35):
keyboard and and it may be, I'm sure it's going to be, you know,
frustrating aspect to begin with.
However, if you don't do it, it won't happen, right?
Be ambitious. And and I'm very let let me

(01:18:56):
share with you. Share with you one more thing.
You're lucky to have a Good Wife.
Yes, she's a scary woman. You often refer about your wife,
your conversation so that that that that shows how much how
much deeply you love your wife. I'm very happy that they.
Wouldn't be here without her. Yeah, I shared with my everyone

(01:19:21):
that without my wife and nothingin this world, without wife, I
would be nothing because when I had a brainstorm my wife, I
survived because of my wife. Otherwise I would have been dead
in the in the year 2021. It's sometimes there's practice
marriages, right? I had one of those and it took a

(01:19:43):
while to to be, to develop myself and be ready for the full
relationship that I have with her And it it's wow.
So how do you make a living? Actually, I'd never ask.
Are you working? Are you doing any business or
what you are doing actually? I have a few things we can talk

(01:20:05):
about that that after. OK, OK.
OK, we'll talk. Yeah, it's because I've got 40
some odd books on Amazon. I do.
I'm an Integral Guide transformational life coach.
I am the operations director forLive and Let Live Global Peace
Movement and the founder of Planetary Citizens, my wife.

(01:20:28):
So those are, you know, a numberof things.
Occasionally I'll do some web work.
I, I've done all the web work onmy websites.
Planetary Citizens How? Do you manage your time?
And I read it. I I there's a good answer.
For that I managed what time through micro.
Moments. Micro moments.
OK, So what that means is when I'm waiting on something else, I

(01:20:53):
have time to do something else. Micro movements, yeah.
Right. And when you begin to manage
those, you, you look at your patterns as a project manager.
I learned this in aerospace industry in my 20s.
Everything has its own timeline.It has its own process.

(01:21:15):
It has its own pattern rhythm. And so when you have, I mean, at
this point I had 800 part numbers that I was dealing with,
right. So there was, I got to know
their cycles very well. And in that process, then I was
able to fit in other items of lesser importance to that that

(01:21:39):
brought everything else, that overall production to a higher
level because I plug things in. I was just, you know, we have
all kinds of moments in our dayswhere we can plug stuff in.
Be ambitious, right? Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. That's what that's what I tell.
Be ambitious, but don't be more ambitious.

(01:22:00):
And one more thing let me tell you.
Be ambitious, don't be aggressive, right?
The universe doesn't like aggression.
Yeah, Correct. Yeah, correct it.
It will fight back. And yeah, it's like live and let
live that we want to change the law and remove aggression,
right? The these are things that are
necessary in our lives. We need to be able to live

(01:22:21):
peacefully any way we so choose.And one more thing I have seen
the on Amazon that three books anthology or three books about
Amazon, three books. So thank you for.
Asking SO our unfortunately our we're closing and I so

(01:22:42):
appreciate your energy, your intelligence and and your
journey. Thanks for sharing it.
Thank you. Namaste, and with the gratitude.
We with the gratitude. Thank you, Thank you, Namaste,
and in Lock Hedge and thanks forsticking with us for this

(01:23:04):
episode of One World in a New World.
I'm your host, and with gratitude from the professor and
myself, I'll see you next time.

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