July 7, 2025 • 71 mins
Ep 202 One World in a New World with Peter MerrickExplore the intersection of gold, growth and the inner compass in this thought-provoking discussion featuring financial sovereignty with Peter Merrick, Zen Benefiel, and purpose-driven business.🌟 What if the real gold isn’t what you invest in—but how you invest in yourself?In this powerful episode of One World in a New World, Zen Benefiel sits down with Peter Merrick, CEO of Merrick Wealth and author of It Starts With The Gold. But this is no ordinary financial conversation—this is a soul-level exploration into curiosity, sovereignty, and conscious evolution.Peter brings rare insight as a finance expert, university professor, and deeply reflective human being who’s navigated authoritarian systems, health crises, and societal upheaval with clarity, conviction, and compassion. From Carl Jung and Martin Buber to NLP and sovereignty, we dive deep into what it means to be fully present, fully human, and fully alive in uncertain times.🧠What’s the real cost of not knowing yourself?🧠How can you reframe fear to unlock your purpose?💡 Can writing daily actually change your life?If you’ve ever questioned the system, longed for freedom, or wondered how to anchor your purpose in turbulent times—this episode is for you.Connect with Peter: https://www.linkedin.com/in/peter-j-merrick-tep-6a87735/It Starts with Gold: https://amzn.to/43lGLrq#PeterMerrick #OneWorldPodcast #FinancialSovereignty #PurposeDrivenLife #SelfAwareness #ConsciousLeadership #AwakenYourGold #JournalingWisdomJoin this channel to get access to perks:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuZl_29zHxehqeL89KSCWFA/join
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Namaste and in LA Ketch, and welcome to this episode of One
World in a New World. I'm your host, Zen Benefiel.
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Now this week's guest is Peter Merrick.
He is an author Aceo. He has Merrick wealth.
He's the CEO of wealth management company.
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His book, It's All About the Gold has just hit the market
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Peter, it is so great to have you here when a good friend,
Lonnie Ray recommended you. She's such a sweetheart and
doing great things for people sharing their stories.
Thanks for being here. Thank you, Zed.
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Thank you. It's a real honor.
And mine as well, you know, it'sjust we honor everyone.
It's the whole Namaste in in La Ketch.
A lot of times I don't say what those words mean.
Namaste comes from the Hindu. It means I, I worship that which
is within you. From the Sanskrit in La Quech is
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a Mayan phrase. It means I am another you.
So if we can begin to see each other in that perspective, wow,
what a shift it would make, eh? It would and one of my favorite
books that was suggested to me when I openly started my journey
back in my 20s. Was I in doubt?
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I don't know if you're and it itreally changed.
Yes, it really I'm I'm having a senior moment of who the author
is, but I'll come back to that. I don't think it was.
It's Martin Buber, Martin Martin, Martin Buber.
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Sorry for correcting you. It just it was.
Don't be sorry, I'd love to be corrected.
We're after the truth. It was.
What happened in my 20s, I always felt a little different
in my life was going on a different track.
And I went into the world's largest bookstore in Toronto
where I lived, and literally it was world's largest bookstore
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until it closed and I had a bookof everything and I bought 7
books. And I just did enter the
financial field and reality hit,you know, I was a cocky young
graduate thinking I was going totake over the world.
And I quickly discovered that I had a lot to learn.
So I went to the world's largestbookstore in Toronto and I
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bought a bunch of books on sales, on Neuro Linguistic
program and all these, you know,type on the Myers Briggs all
like I bought 7 books and I never really was a reader.
I read because I had to read. But these books I wanted to read
and I devoured them. And what came out of that is I
then started taking courses and I would travel around North
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America when I had enough money to go to these conferences.
And I went to the first International Anagram
Conference. I went to NLP trainings around
North America and I was a littlekid who was learning some
powerful tools. Meaning when I was looking at
neuro linguistic programming, atfirst, I, I approached it as I
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was going to learn this powerfulway of like, listen to me, you
know, And it's like, in that notrealizing that it's like, it's
still. A mind training, right?
Yeah, and it, it comes, but it comes, it all comes back to you.
However, I'm one of the people in the, I was trained by this
really incredible doctor in Toronto who trained under Wyatt
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Wood Small. And someone who was part of the
group who was a psychologist would bring me around to a a
meetings in the Toronto area andI would do guided meditation.
And she thought that here's a little kid, Not a little kid,
but here's someone who's learneda karate chop who doesn't have
the the deeper understanding because I was really into form.
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I was reading new physics and things like that, but it didn't
mean anything to me. And she said to me, Peter, you
have to read Martin Buber's I and thou.
And I was reading it and I and Iand that was such a powerful
paradigm shift for me. And the reason it was a paradigm
shift for me because I and thou instead of I and it.
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And over the years I've understood it even greater.
So if I look at you as AI can abuse you, I can rob you, I can
do all sorts of things. If I think you are a thou part
of the infinite, I have to like I will want to.
I'm compelled to treat you as anextension of me.
But let me share with you how I've interpreted it, because
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I've spent a lot of time becauseI've spent, Oh my, I don't know,
30 years thinking about it sinceI, I first tried or over 30
years. I in it, I don't see you.
I don't see you. I don't see me.
Then there's I in you. I see you.
But I endow should be do I see myself?
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Because I, if I don't see myself, then I can't see you.
And that's what I endow is So inessence, a lot of people say I
think like, do unto others as you would have done to them.
Well, they're thinking about howthey should treat other people,
but they've never turned the, the they've never turned the
mirror on themselves. How do I treat myself?
And if I treat myself well, I'm going to treat you well.
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Absolutely. And and that's really what self
Love Is All about, right? And that has such a
misunderstood connotation in theworld because it seems selfish.
And yet it's just the opposite. You know, law of 1's.
Another thing you probably ran into LL research.
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And they say that, you know, there's the service to self and
service to others, and we're either promoted by love or fear.
And well, you know, that's stillbinary.
We're in one universe and from our perspective, right,
regardless of all the parallel universe philosophies where our
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experiences of 1. And in that we have the capacity
to understand our integration inthat, our reflection, our
movement, our ability to join with others in a Co creation
process because we have that capacity.
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That's how we're designed to be.And we've been inundated and
programmed by a patriarchal society that initially, you
know, took women as a rib, whichsubjugated them and said, Oh
well, man superior. No, that's such bullshit.
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Sorry, we're equal. We have that's an aspect of the
divine feminine, the divine masculine.
And so those have synonymous, not synonymous, synchronistic
activity, synergistic activity in this Co creation process.
Each one of us have those aspects within us and the
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feminine side is is that in aesthetic side of men.
You know, the feeling, the the emotion, the willingness to be
vulnerable that most men are unwilling to broach.
And the women then are they're learning.
I had to It's interesting. Sorry to go off on a tangent
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here. Willie White Feather, an old
mixed blood Cherokee storyteller.
He was saying that one of their prophecies is that women will
cut their hair, put on warm paint and go to battle.
Well, and this was in the, I mean, early 90s when I did this
and, and sure enough, you know, you look at the corporate world,
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women were cutting their hair, you know, put the suits on the
makeup and and going to battle with guys, right.
So how do we get through all this was one of my questions
early on too, kind of like you, how do we merge these things?
When you were in that process, did you notice some bread
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crumbs, if you will, that allowed that synergistic
awareness to become present? It doesn't necessarily mean you
could do anything about it yet, but in your early training and
the naivete, he still has a student.
Did you find those things? I think one of the things that
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was something that's been both agift and it's also been not a
gift is I, I'm very curious. The blessing of my curious.
It is because because I I could put myself in harm's way from my
curiosity like I will like whatever fear I have and I had
AI didn't experience when I was in university.
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I was sitting in the library at my university and I was going to
run for the executive vice president position list in the
council and I had over 250 signatures and I went to the
library and it was the second largest university in Canada.
It was like 45,000 undergrads and I was sitting there for
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about four hours and I couldn't just submitted it in.
And then the voice came to me and it was my voice says, why
are you so scared like that? Because, because I was going to
put myself out there and I realized something and this has
carried me my entire life. And I think that was like a
pivotal moment. That's why I'm sharing with you
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now, because I wanted it and thereason I wasn't going to do it,
because if I didn't put my, my foot forward, I would never
know. So I can never say, well, I lost
and I didn't deserve it. And it was that pull and, and
throughout my entire life that Iwas, I was like 20 years old.
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I now ask myself when I feel a sense of fear, the question and
I and I, and I feel it because Irealized my body has so much,
you know, it tells me so much that my cognitive brain can't
put into words. Why are you frightening?
You're frightening because it really is dangerous.
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Or you're frightened because if you do it, it doesn't work out.
You're going to be devastated because you put yourself out.
And I realize now if when I answer, it's because you really
want it and that's why you're scared.
That propels me and my curiosity.
And it ought. To right that that fear is a
door to success. It is, but there are legitimate
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ones because, you know, absolutely.
You don't walk out in front of abus, right, right.
But those are those are things are are so silly and
inconsequential when it comes tothat, that that's a good
argument. But at the same time and at the
same time, there's this nature that we have 70,000 thoughts a
day, right? Most of them self deprecating.
And so that continues to hold usback because we're playing the
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imposter syndrome, right? We don't think we're enough,
know enough, have enough, are, you know, all those kinds of
things enough. And the reality is we are
enough, right? And we get to be more enough by
stepping into that, by leaning into the fear and opening the
door. And on the other side of that,
we find out, you know, really it's just about loving and being
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loved and 1st loving self. Otherwise, you can't love others
fully. And what's the depth of love,
right? What did you find when you
started exploring this understanding that you had of
the depths of loving yourself tothe point of becoming fearless
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in those regards? I, I would never say it's
fearless. I just understand by asking that
question. And one of the things that I, I
impress upon everybody is I shared with you, I, I'm highly
kinesthetic. There's moments that basically
are imprinted on me where I tooknotice and that moment I felt
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it, I was in it. It's like, here's something I, I
went all the way to, you know, get 250 signatures and I was
good. I didn't hand it in until the
last 10 minutes and that handingit in changed my life.
Well, it didn't change my life because I believe that this is
my direction and in essence, well change your attitude about
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you. Well, I want to share with you
my thoughts on free will. We have free will.
My definition is this, both of us are meant to do something and
your free will is not to do it and suffer the consequences.
And that's the conclusion I camein my own life.
And I tell younger people that all the time.
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I say you have a unique value proposition.
You have something that's unique.
And there's going to be three types of people you're going to
meet. You're going to meet people
immediately see your unique value proposition.
You're going to just meet peoplewho don't have the eyes yet to
see it, and they will. And there'll be those.
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It doesn't matter what you do, they'll never see it.
And as I got older, I just look at, look at how would I say for
those people who are predisposedand I, I'll give you an example
and how I make that quick, like how that happens and manifests
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quicker. As I shared with you, I'm
originally from Canada. So we don't have like like
oceans and things of that nature.
So there really are no salmon. If I wanted to catch salmon, I'm
not going to go to a river in, let's say, feeding into the
Ontario and Ontario Lake. I'm going to go to the mouth of
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the Simon Fraser River. I have a much better chance I
have to go there. And I'll share with you what a
movie that is symbolizes a lot for me, and my interpretation
might be different than other people.
And it's close Encounters of theThird Coin.
And I'll share with you what it means to me.
No, that began. Because I think.
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Where I grew up. Wow.
I, I actually had ship experiences from the time I was
8 to 10 years old, an orange cigar shaped cloud.
Didn't know anything about it. Just couldn't wait to go back
when I'd wake up in the morning.Never talked to anybody then.
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And I would watch myself get outof bed, climb out my window,
walk across the neighbor's backyard out into a field and
rise up into this, you know, theobserver self watching the
participant. And then in 1981, it was getting
ready to move to Phoenix and thebook falls.
I'm in a metaphysical bookstore in Muncie and a book falls off
the front of me and I walk over and there's nobody else around,
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right? That you've probably had this
happen. I walk over and it's cover up on
open on the floor and it's Ruth Montgomery, strangers among us.
And I'm like, oh, this is interesting.
And I picked it up and turned itover and 1st paragraph that my
eyes are drawn to says the most common contact UFO contactee
experience in the Midwest and late 50s and early 60s was the
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tada orange cigar shaped cloud. And I, I never thought about
that till that moment. I was 23 at the time, right?
So there was 15 years that had gone fast, but those kinds of
thing. And then when close Encounters
came out and it starts in Muncie, it's like, whoa.
I want to, I want to share with you what it's symbolized because
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I realize. Metaphor.
It connected no matter this one of the synchronicities that we
find as we talk. Yes.
So for me, I didn't have the words and we're going to be
talking about an experience I had about two years ago where I
finally have been able to integrate the words to explain
what I experienced. However, with with that movie,
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what it symbolizes because not the greatest acted movie, it's
not. But here are millions of people
who are invited. They're invited and millions of
people don't go. Now here is Ray, who's the hero
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of the story, Richard Dreyfuss. He goes, he's invited and he
goes and all of us have an invitation and where I shared
about free will, It's you have adestiny.
I have a destiny. It's a different destiny.
That's sort of like your your cell.
I'm a cell, right? Like we have different purposes
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and. They all work together.
When? When we minister.
Fuller Buckminister Fuller is one of my heroes in the critical
path. But that to me represents like,
you know, we have a call and my life has not been conventional.
It has been work wise. It's been in the financial field
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in all sorts of areas of as a writer, as a university
professor, as a textbook writer,as a consultant.
However, the way I've gone aboutit, I'm an oddball, an oddball
and I, I am, well, this, I, not that bald, but I do shave.
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But I, but I look at that, I look at that as such a powerful
metaphor that we all have a glimpse.
I think it was Winston Churchill, who I'm not the
greatest fan of, However, you know, a clock could be right
twice a day, right? And he said most people, they
have a moment of inspiration, they fall down, but they quickly
dust themselves off and they rush back to their life.
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And I realized recently and earlier, but I'm willing to take
ownership of it is I believe we're all born NPCS, non
participating characters. I really that however we have
the potential to grow and the question, the the most powerful
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question and I addressed it in my last book to ask because I
had to ask it myself, especiallyduring the beginning of COVID
because my Spidey senses said there's much more to this.
Something's. Going I know something's going
on and I and I know it like you know, but it was all academic to
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me. All my reading, all my studying
or whatever. It's like I felt, you know, the
alarm bells going and the question I asked, and I think
it's a very powerful question and I came up with five answers,
is why do I believe what I believe?
Why do I believe it? And you know, because I'm an
NPCI, just believe it. You know, I believe the world's
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round. I believe the world.
I, I believe the financial system works this way.
I believe for Pharmakeia is it for my best interest.
I just believe everything. I, I believe it because it
hadn't yet impacted me, you know, because I had, I, I really
had a, a charmed life. I've done well professionally.
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So in essence and I and I workedwith entrepreneurs.
So I never really dealt with thegovernment.
And I had a really good friend of mine who worked for the
national broadcaster in Canada who was telling me that I didn't
know in 2015 and 16. He said, Peter, you know, I
don't understand. I said, what do you mean?
He said the, the, it is just changed.
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Like it's just the PC culture. Everything is just changed.
But you live in a special world.And what happened is during
COVID, that world out there thatwas changing society now
impacted me. And I really had to sit down and
ask that question. I want to give you my 5 answers.
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Why do I believe what I believe?And I think that is a one of the
most powerful questions to startyour awakening because it did
things for me well. You question.
You question the truth that you perceive.
Right, well, I want to share with you the answers I gave sure
to myself, I believe because there was no reason to doubt the
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people who told me, you know, there was no, there's no reason
to. And then number 2, when I got a
little older and I and I could have started really asking those
questions. Well, no, I even my mom, dad,
church leaders, whatever, like, you know, it's like you
politician. There was no reason for me to
question. It was just, you know, they seem
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to all it was like a bunch of bees who just start, you know,
flapping their wings and I startflapping my wings.
You know, it's like I'm going togo to school, I'm going to get a
profession, going to be a gerbil.
I'm sorry, a few years ago if I did that to be running to the
hills, maybe you. So number 2, when I get older,
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the question, you know that my reason was I'm just busy.
I'm trying to make a life for myself.
I'm trying to live out there. Like Carl Young says, the first
half of life is building your ego.
And that's, so who's going to look at those things?
I'm, I'm trying to get material things.
I'm trying to be a Peacock, attract the most attractive
woman who's going to have children with me.
I'm going to get a house. I'm going to acquire status and
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everything. The other one is the, the number
3 was, well, I, I, I, I didn't want to ask the question I
didn't like, you know what I mean?
It's easier not to ask it. The 4th 1 is maybe I'm too
simple minded to even know, to formulate that question.
Like, why do I believe what I believe?
But the most important one and the toughest answer was I didn't
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want to be rejected by the community that I was part of.
And it was a community that emerged unconsciously.
And it was not a conscious community.
I had people I lied to. I could talk.
I wasn't conscious of it. And I want to share with you, I
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remember I read a book in 1999, it was called Coal Creation by
Barbara Max Hubbard. I don't know if.
And this book came to know whereI did.
OK, She she. She helped help co-author the Co
Creation Wheel. Well, I, I read her book.
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It was, I went, I was in Boca inFlorida and I'm looking at her
book in the bookstore. I put it down.
And then that night I, I had a very strange day.
That day. I, I knew my father was going to
die that day. And I and I 10 minutes, 10
minutes before I got the call, because if he was in Toronto, a
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light went out in me like something went out.
And when the call came, I said that's my mother say that my
father died 10 minutes before I like it was I have to apologize.
I'm I'm going to sneeze. Apologize.
It was if it was if it was threeyears ago, people would be
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running to the hills, right? My my sneezing and I went.
I went back to the. That's all right.
We're safe. We're at a safe distance.
We we are. So I went back to the bookstore.
I bought her book. I felt drawn to her book, and I
read it. And there was one thing that
changed my life more than much of the other things that she
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wrote in the book. And what changed my life is she
tells the story how she was stuck in Connecticut with five
kids, and she felt isolated. And she walked into a bookstore
and she found Maslow's book. And she wrote a letter saying,
I'll take you to lunch if you come.
And he contacted her. And what she actually said is
those people who write books, and I can tell this one, and I
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read a book where the person is setting up a flare to find other
people. We're seeing the same things.
And now with the Internet like you and I are meeting now, it's
easier now to let them know we're here and and then share
and empty our pockets and share with you said what I saw and you
share with you saw. And that gave me the I if you
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impacted me as a writer, I wouldcontact you and I'd be when I
was younger and I had lots of piss and vinegar, I would go and
ask. You said which I read your book.
You got a biography. Tell me the real books in there
because you know, a lot of people would just put every book
they ever read. I want to know the books that
really changed your life becauseI and I'd go to the world's
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largest bookstore. I lived there about 2-3 times a
week. I, I read probably on average
about two to 300 books a year. I was like looking for an
answer. Well, I, I, I was, I was, I was
living outside myself because because I, I, and I just want to
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share with you an insight for your younger, your younger
listeners, because I'm 56, you know, so I'm at a different
stage right now in my life. I I went and I, I met this
woman. She was in medical school, this
young girl, and she tells me where we're doing the prep call
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to meet later on. I don't remember her name, but
which the gift she gave to me lingers to this day.
So what she does, she says she'sreading the most incredible
book, Siddhartha by Hermann House.
So what do I do? I want to impress her.
I go that afternoon and I buy that book and I'm devouring it
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and this book is blowing my mindbecause here's this young 25
year old cocky kid who thinks he's the first person in the
world ever to have these insights.
Remember those days? I it's.
Different. I read the book and I think I
was 18. It's my first year in college.
It's one of the things I picked after I had my experience.
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So then I kept on reading it every year, sometimes twice a
year, and I was asking myself, why do I keep on having this
attraction towards it? And it's because every time I
read that book. Getting that feeling right now,
I realized I was in a different chapter in the book there.
Let me share what happened. I went out on that date that
night, and my intensity for thisbook overwhelmed her.
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She was not meant to be on my journey.
I couldn't tell you who she was if I bumped into her in the
street. But that book continued, and
it's something I read. And when I wrote my last book
called The King of Main Street, I'm following the key news now.
Let me share with you what happened.
I finally asked myself, I was prepared to ask myself, what's
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your attraction to this book? And I realized I had been in
this, in this journey of like just reading, hoping that
someone else was going to give me the answers.
Like do we give me the calm in here?
Because because I could read intellectually and saying I'm
going to go to this guru, I'm going to go to that thinker
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this. And after a while, it all became
the same thing. I could look at a book, read 3
pages and I would know what was in the book.
Or you just feel it because I read like 5000 books on my
journey and it was almost like maybe smoking cigarettes or
being addicted to something. I was looking for crack cocaine
and what I mean by that for my crack cocaine is getting a way
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of. Thinking your mind was dead.
Completely. Yeah like just go and like you
know, break my paradigm, break my paradigm, break my paradigm
break my like Margaret. Sorry, Barbara Max Hubbard, when
she wrote Coke Creator, she talked about she wanted to
create a special type of university and she had a she had
a list of. Hubbard and it's Max.
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It's Marx. She went from the Homo sapiens
to Homo universalis, yes, and her development and amazing
woman had lunch with her at an event in LA or just in Joshua
Tree a few years before yes, butthe amazing woman now in that.
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Now let's go back to COVID for aminute, because you brought that
up and and that reflection. So as you know, we talked
beforehand there was part of my mission here is to facilitate
harmony among people on planet. Well, how's that going to
happen? In order for anything like that
to happen, there has to be a moment where everybody has the
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opportunity to sequestrate and self examine.
So what happened in COVID, rightbeyond who we want to project
caused it or all the nonsense about it all, all the, you know,
confabulations and narratives that were turned that had turned
out to be false, right as we understand the science and, and
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all the things that weren't involved with it.
Now, however, when it happened, it was like the bell ringing in
me. Here's the beginning of this
process. And I said to my wife, very
first day we went on lockdown. I said to her that because we
were, she knows me well enough that we were anticipating
something like this when it happened.
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Now I really hope that in this sequestration and and obsession
on self hygiene, right, because there's a behavior modification
in process there. And unlike your significant
emotional event, like Massey calls him, right there was this
oh shit, right, that everybody felt and there were some that
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took advantage of that free will, chose to take the
opportunity to ask themselves those questions.
What do I believe in? Who am I what, what do I believe
in? What am I willing to do as a
result of that? Why am I here?
Right. All of those kinds of things.
And then as we began to come outof that, all these virtual
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groups began forming of people like you were talking about
seeking each other and finding them and having these next level
conversations about what's happening, what we can do not to
point fingers to elevate and say, OK, what can we do to Co
create a new normal that we're all happy with that serves
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humanity instead of usurps its power Like what's happening now?
Because we've got everything that we could ever imagine as
far as the resources to take care of everybody across the
board. It's just not distributed
properly to do so, which comes into the management, which comes
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into the system that we've been under the advisement of, if you
will, or influence of globally as well as locally.
And now that nationalistic attitude is starting to
disappear because we're global citizens.
We are planetary citizens. We're on one planet, we are one
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people. And this to me, seems like
common sense. Now, how do we make that sense?
Common is the next step, and that's where you and I are
involved. What can we do so in this?
I think, I think there's I thinkthere's moments like I because
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there was a series of moments and I actually realized that the
universe nudges us and the. Question is all the time, every
moment of every day. Well, sometimes it steps,
sometimes it steps in. It's very pronounced and it says
you're not going this direction.Sometimes it comes and there's
moments in my life. That's the cosmic too before
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right? That that we want to have.
Had. Yet, because we don't make the
decisions that we know are beneficial, we attempt to be
codependent and do things that others think we should do and
then find out that's not the way.
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And I've had a number, I've had a number of those moments.
And then I must, I'm a thick learner because I've always felt
sort of blessed, Like I've seen things, I've experienced things.
Like right now, a school I went to in Canada was the only
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military school in Canada. It's, it's becoming quite
famous. It's called Robert Land Academy.
I saw it. Totalitarianism at this school,
and you know, it's lots of abusehappened at this school and it
just finally closing down. It's becoming a big thing in
Canada and it was considered thetoughest military school in all
of North America. You got kicked out of Valley.
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Canada and what I'm talking about that comes out of COVID
people going wait a minute and this fits into the Mayan
calendar, right, where we have shifted our vibratory rate.
We're at a different level now. We're slightly higher what
doesn't fit to the surface for reformation or complete removal
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because it doesn't fit and and it's like we don't have to do
anything for that well. When you asked about course when
you asked about COVID, one of the things that happened because
I'm anti authoritarian because Ilived in a authoritarian system.
So basically I've I've seen thismovie before but I just.
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Want to question. I just want to step back.
I ignored a lot of things in my own life and I truly believe you
manifest things in your body. And in 2019, I was in Toronto.
I almost died and I was told by the doctor I, you know, I was
highly anemic and I have internal bleeding and I showed
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up and I had like 5.4 hemoglobin.
Like anybody wants to know what normal is?
It's close to 12. And they were looking at me like
how you still standing because Iignored my body, you know, I
just kept on going forward. I, you know, I, I had external
successes. I was literally and my joke was
before I, I'm just, you know, the some relationships were
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toxic. I was saying I'm becoming
spiritually anemic and I I was really anemic and was that that
correlates, huh. It does.
You know, my aura in words, words matter, right?
And you know that that that's a word.
I felt what happened at that point, my, my ex-wife, I was
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married at the time, she was from San Diego and she always
wanted to go back. So I said we had a few
properties in San Diego and I said, OK, let's just do it for a
year and I'll fly back and forth.
So I wouldn't you know, I jump and those are moments in my
life. I literally look at my life and
I've taken serious track jumps. You know what I mean?
It's not like a slow progression.
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No, it's like I'm on this track.Boom, I'm on that track.
And it's very interesting because I was here when COVID
happened because in Canada it became a totalitarian state.
And I knew something was wrong, but I was somewhat, you know,
I'm a stranger in the land. I'm just getting my green card
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because I was married to an American citizen, Robert.
Along with you too. Oh, I was, I was reading him, of
course. And I'll tell you why I was
reading him because the world was scaring me so much.
Because what happened in Canada,what happened in Canada, I
understood this. And this is where where it was
really important is I had to trust my instinct.
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I knew Holocaust survivors growing up and they would tell
me that logic told them to go left, but something told them to
go right. And when they followed the
right, they lived. And people who did the logic
stuff, they ended up dead. And I that's why I turned to the
Hawkins and I read Power versus Force because I realized I had
to make split decisions. And I knew that by asking
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something frame it yes, no and have a very concrete answer.
In order to do the testing too, right?
This is one of the things you mentioned.
Your body's so sensitive, your kinesthetic.
Our bodies are instruments. They are transceivers from the
shoulder up. Most of the time we don't pay
any attention to the body. And yet quantum physics now is
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showing everything is energy. And those instances, those
little tingles or little pains or something like that in your
body is something for you to go,oh, what's that about?
And if as you begin to question that, then the information comes
as to what it is. And it's usually embedded within
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your consciousness. It's some kind of errant
thinking, you know, stinking thinking, if you will, that has
disconnected you from you and the truth that you are perfect
instance being adopted. I had gone through life, you
know, wondering about my birth parents, my wife, my second
marriage. I had a practice when 4 kids.
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I got 8 great grandkids now and but don't have a A because of
friends, don't have a relationship with them however.
So Luba got me a subscription toAncestry in 2017 for her first
Christmas and in 20 January 2019my half sister shows up.
And so I meet my birth mother that summer and we speak with
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her and oh it was amazing you know.
However, the the point I was going to make is that I was the
last person on her bucket list. The family didn't know about me
until 10 years prior when her mother was on her deathbed and
she blurted it out asking about me because nobody else knew
about me. And so then she went through
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four different kinds of cancer and was in remission at the time
that we met. And then after we met with
everything, it just was fine. I had no regrets.
I had no angst, I had no anger. I just was loving the fact that
she loved me enough to give me up when she didn't think that
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she could take care of me. And I ended up with a wonderful
family that had and was given a just an absolutely amazing
childhood as a result, full of opportunities to learn and grow
and be curious and, and not be threatened because I was so
curious. But that a year and a half
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later, she passed away. It it was OK.
And that we got, you know, everything was cool.
She realized that she didn't have to hold on to her angst
anymore, regret or anything of that nature, which she had held
on to. And I think women who give their
children up do. For sure.
And then that manifested in her body is various cancers because
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you eat yourself up because you're what?
Eating yourself up inside because of the anger?
Scary. So that's a no brainer when that
happens. Then there's ways to move
through that if you catch it soon enough, right?
But The thing is, back to the sensitivity of the body,
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learning how to tune it, let alone play in concert, is one of
the objectives we have as being in human form.
And I, I feel very fortunate because I speak from the lower
diaphragm. I feel things, I feel my life
through. And you know, as I shared, I, I
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was a master trainer of neuro linguistic programming.
And most people, they cut their breathing off when they speak,
right? They're not feeling for me.
I have to feel it intuitively. Now.
I've ignored things and when I ignored things I like, I I'm
quite aware and. Then you regret it later.
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Well, not no, no, because everything is part of a life
lesson. Oh yeah.
Well, you regret it. I'm not saying you carry the
regret. It's like, oh, right.
And that's that moment of regretthat you then let go of.
And it's like, OK, now what did I learn there?
Maybe I, I used to hold regret, but I, I, you know, for many
years and I learned the presupposition to, to approach
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things. There's no, no such thing as
failure. It happens to be a lesson and
life is school. So in essence, you know, there's
something later, yeah, later on this is going to have incredible
value. And it did have much of what
happened to me and the experiences I had when I was a
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kid, which were very tough during COVID.
I was, you know, I was aware some things were wrong.
I took care of precautions. I remember meeting a familiar my
child. For those of your listeners who
don't know what that is, in Britain and in Canada, not so
much. In the US, there was a morning
sickness drug that they gave to women while their children,
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their babies were forming their limbs.
So babies were being born with like dull limb instead of like a
full lead. And this is the reason why when
women were pregnant are pregnant, women won't eat a can
of tuna, God forbid mercury or smoke or do anything because
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that was like the shock into thesystem.
Like, Hey, you just don't take anything while you're pregnant
because look what happened when you listen to doctors and you
took this. So it things didn't mesh with
me. And there were a number of
things that became very, I'd be very aware of and I became a
deep student. Like, you know, I started
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studying virology and like the history of it and everything I
would read. Then I started reading white
papers at the UN, the World Economic Forum, the World Bank,
you name it, gab, everything. And that's.
As many Pisceans as I know, I think that's their nature.
They just dive into everything. My wife said that way, too.
She's one of the most investigative people that that
I'm aware. As a Cancerian, I'm much more
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empathic. I don't need to do that because
I know the truth's going to emerge because of the process
that I've learned within myself.Just to be patient and wait,
right? You still have the intention.
You still have the curiosity andthe questions, but you don't
have, or at least for me, I don't have the mental
perturbations that are involved in order to get the answers
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right. Oh.
I'm and I'm not saying. And there's no judgement.
Right, this is just oh, I know different operating system.
I became like, you know, when I get well, I shared with you like
during I probably read over 5000books.
So in essence, I will exhaust topics, I will exhaust them.
I will, you know, I will even know what the book's going to
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say. But basically I have a
discussion, a pseudo conversation with the author.
And I can tell an author who's writing because the subject and
they want to get everybody up. And I could tell when he says
I'm great, I can immediately tell that I can turn off to it.
And I'm, I'm very quick to it now and that, you know, through
discernment. But what happened during COVID
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is I, I knew something was wrongand I started reading all this
stuff and educating because my world had been basically I, I
lived a world where I got to create my own world and I would
keep the government and everybody out only.
But there was no choice, you know, it was all being
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implemented. And I had a good friend and this
is to it was to my detriment andto my positive because I in
Canada, I was a regular on national television and finance.
I was a university professor. I was a consultant within my
area of expertise. No one knew my politics.
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I was just a nice guy with a smile who knew what to do
certain things and would come tome.
Well, a good friend of mine, like someone I consider like my
brother. He was a prosecutor for the
Canadian government and he was forced into retirement because
he was not going to take the medical experiment.
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And but he was someone who was OCD.
What I mean, he was funny, perfect, whatever.
And he could make jokes about the fact you could set you're
clocked by him and he needed buthe left Canada the last you.
Need those kind of people too, right?
You know buddy, that way we we all of each other and we don't
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even realize. Oh, he was like, like he was,
you know, he was my brother. I get sad about this, but I want
to share what, what, what, what occurred.
So I was so happy because he didsomething so out of character.
The last day that Canadians who were not Vax could fly out of
Canada, he fled and he went downto Mexico.
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The problem is his OCD kicked inand he didn't have his patterns.
He went back to Canada. He was going to be made a judge
before he was forced in retirement too.
He kills himself. I get the call on December 26th,
2021 and then a few days later I'm watching Vaccine Choice
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Canada and Naomi Wolf is on and I don't know if you're familiar
with Naomi Walsh. She was.
She's one of the most vocal. People not necessarily who or
what she's. One of the most she was she, she
was one of the most vocal peopleabout the backseat when the
Pfizer documents were released. She's got like 3000 people who
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volunteered, experts who read through it and shown us how this
thing was just poison. Yeah, there were.
Several scientists that were coming up and and coming out.
Right, but but she's. Getting shut down on YouTube and
Facebook and every place else, right, That was a that's such.
It was so obvious. I, I had that censorship because
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at that point I, I wrote a pieceon my friend Larry and I gave it
to her and it went viral and hadlike 3 million reads, you know,
and it went through the Canadiangovernment too.
Like it was subversive. Like in essence, one of someone
I knew contacted me saying that they, they was told to not share
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it because it basically used himkilling himself and talking
about how this was a scam and about this, this person.
And then the truckers happened. And as a Canadian, I cried.
Like literally I thought my, because I was stuck in America.
I, I never, I never, I never thought I'd be, I would die
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outside of Toronto. I'm not in Toronto.
I live in San Diego. Now my, my kids were American to
begin with, but now they're truly San Diego's.
I don't think I could ever get the back to the cold.
I got a couple of steps that were stationed at Navy base
there. They're they're both on a sub
now and the other ones in Okinawa.
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Well I I started speaking out and I got hate.
I lost in one week I've got a big following on LinkedIn.
I lost 5000 people from Canada or whatever.
And like these people were I I don't call them sheeple.
The term I use in my book and issleepless, not sheeple, because
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sheeple says that a person doesn't have the potential to
wake up. A sleepo has the potential to
wake up. They have the potential, you
know, like they're groggy, right?
We all wake up asleep, and we have the potential to wake up a
little more each and every day, or through our legs.
There it was the choice when everybody went on lockdown and,
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and the choices of whether to get back or not took place.
And, and you know, my wife and I, we were already spending 24/7
together. Her studio was in the house.
She's a piano teacher. I worked out of the house.
We didn't change our activities.We didn't put on masks.
We didn't do that. And we went pretty much anywhere
that we could, right? There was a few places that
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wouldn't let you in if you weren't masked.
Nobody questioned the vaccine. We didn't fly anywhere.
And yet our lives didn't change.They got better what opposite of
what other people were experiencing, and it was so hard
to see people suffer because of their own choices.
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Well, one of the things that really great well, I really
learned to stand up. I would walk out with like I
would go to places with the government document that says
that if I told you I was exempt and you press you personally
would have a $75,000 fine. People didn't know this and I
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would hold it up, take my cameraafter they tell me like, you
know, I couldn't come in and I said, you sure you want to ask
me again to put on the mask and then I would go, I want you to
read with $75,000 personally notand someone who's a greeter at a
dollar store is not going to then stop me.
I was embarrassing to my kids because I was a sovereign.
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What are you doing? You're standing up for what
needed to be stood for. And the reason I did this and I
shared with you earlier, I, I went to a school that was, it
was a totalitarian school. And right now it's just been
closed for like 40 years of abuse and it's going to become
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big. They're doing a documentary for
Netflix on it. I'd seen it.
I wasn't really impacted by it. The things that happened to
other kids. I, you know what, I wasn't
party, but I seen it and I felt it.
It was in my muscles. There's an African saying that
says it's not real and less in your muscles.
It was my muscles, my Spidey says.
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I said I've seen this before, itdoesn't end well and I'm not
going and I'm not going to participate in it.
And it's like usually when you find out with a bully, they want
to find people who are going to bend the knee.
As soon as I said this to some big guy, you say you put your
mask on it or else and I'd show this, you have to see I'm not
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going to even the manager being called.
I'm not willing for this corporation to get a $75,000
fine. You know, it's just and what was
it was paper. That's the power of words too.
Virus. I'm friends with one of the Co
founders of Greenpeace and he ishe's pro carbon.
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He said think about carbon and viruses, two things you can't
see. I studied hypnosis for 30 years.
I'll tell you the most powerful thing about studying hypnosis is
actually telling you I studied hypnosis.
The word puts the person the trans, not me.
And that's what was happening. Scary.
You're dirty this and that. You know I like now I know how
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like Jews were rounded up and said like the the Germans
weren't bad people. They were the most educated,
most advanced people in the world.
But what happened is a corrosivememe got into them.
And guess what? People did not stand up because
all tyrannies fall when good people say no, I will not, I
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will not participate. And I think because because who
is worse? The person who gives the order,
the one who follows the order, the one who follows the order.
I actually know that there were people who really bought into it
and still buy into it. I understand them.
The problem I have and I becausethe sleep bulls I break into two
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categories, are a sleep bull. So a sleep bull is not a sheep.
This is a person who could wake up.
But sleep OLS fall into two categories, and I define this in
my new book. The first category is a useful
idiot. What is a useful idiot?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're right.Yeah, maybe they'll wake up.
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But I'll tell you the ones I have a problem with.
So I have a problem with the useful tools.
They know it's wrong and they still do it.
And you want to know something. If you discover something, you
could have all the excuses. You're an MPC, you're asleep,
you're asleep. O, that's one thing.
But once you know and you still persist, you are part of the
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problem. And that was the conclusion I
came to. And when my friend Larry took
his life, I started speaking outAnd in Canada, and this is
really weird and my LinkedIn andit's LinkedIn, LinkedIn is not
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popular, right? It's like the boring man's
women's platform, right? I was getting up to two million
impressions a week off the stuffI was writing, the videos I was
doing, and I just, but what happened out of it is the right
people were showing up. And what do I mean by the right
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people? We're having a real
conversation. I was present to my life.
This conversation you and I are having, we're present.
I don't think I was present. I know when I almost died in
2019 and they were telling me something is wrong with me, I
was already making plans for next week.
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I didn't know that after the surgery and everything, I was
also going to be wearing a catheter for two months like I
just thought I'd be able to. I wasn't present.
Oh, the graces of getting. Old I, you know, I have my
little vulnerable share. You know, my prostate did its
thing. It's the only thing that's ever
happened to me. And I ended up having to wear a
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catheter for three weeks afterwards.
And you know that's that's not afun thing to do and certainly
limits your activity. Yeah, well, you know, and I and
I like, I have no like no shame.It's part of getting old.
My my point is, they are. What they are right?
Why can't we be open and vulnerable enough just to share
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what is now that doesn't? You know my dad used to say the
truth is less than less than Full disclosure, right?
You don't have to give all the intricate details.
Oh, I'm. Not kidding however, but life is
what it is. You have things going on, it's
what makes us available to each other's.
That shared experience that we can have and understand and have
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empathy for with others. Now it it in this movement
towards an end with your book, right?
Where is the gold? I'll tell you where the I'll
tell you where the gold is. My you know, things were
happening. Things that didn't sit right
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with me sort of fell out of my life, you know, IA chapter in my
life. I had been married to someone
who for 20 years. We had a, you know, our
relationship was what I needed to be experienced and it was
coming to an end. I finally was able to go back to
Toronto after not being there for quite a long time.
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It was very funny when I shared with you I was getting 2 million
impressions a week when I was really speaking out.
You know, it's like I'm thinking, didn't you guys watch
Sesame Street? What, what does it, what does it
fit like the other, you know, like that's how I was doing and
I was like asking questions because my thought was not like
the speak at people. It's like, I'm hoping that your
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front lobe will start clicking, you know, like one of the ways.
And before I move into that, what, what, what the example I
would give is if you go want to wake someone up, the first thing
I, I just ask people like I, I, I like Jesus or in Christ, you
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know, it's like my, my thing is,I'm just going to have love
towards you. I'm not going to judge you.
That's what that's. The thing we do right, we tend
to point fingers and want to condemn, criticize, castigate,
whatever, right, not realizing that we got 3 coming back at us
and we ever you know, there's that Trinity again, right?
So do we have solutions for that?
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You know that this is the whole thing about.
Well, my my whole thing is. If I can finish here for just a
second, when the when you have the that kind of opportunity to
look at what's the potential here, what can we find to take
us further? It's like Buckminster Fuller,
right? But before him, Socrates said,
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don't fight, create a better system, right?
So that's what we're doing now in this process.
How do we create this better system and is this the gold that
that that you're bringing out inthe in the explanation of your
book? Yes, partially.
I just want to share something. So, you know, my marriage fell
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apart. You know, I'm my business.
I don't want to do what I used to do.
I can't go back. It's like, you know, there's
three things I learned in life you can't do.
You can't go home. You can't go to home you left
you, you can't go to a job you you're no longer with and you
can never return back to a relationship.
However, I went back to Toronto and what was really interesting
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out of this 2 million. People a week.
Who were like, you know, clicking on my stuff. 600,000
were Canadians. Most were in the Greater Toronto
Area. For those of your listeners who
don't know, Canada's 40 million people, But the Greater Toronto
Area happens to be about 27% of the whole country's population.
So if Trump turns Canada into the 51st state, he just has to
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get rid of let's say about A5, A5 hour drive 100 miles north of
the US Canada border and he can have all the resources and
everything 'cause they all that's where Canada lives.
It's like California, everyone lives on the coast.
This is actually more concentrated.
There's like 27 million people out of 41 million who live on
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this seven hour drive. I'm.
Caution you, Peter, cause here'sone thing that I heard you say.
You brought Trump in and you gave an impression that didn't
feel good to me, right? Those kinds of things to me are
unnecessary in looking at creating the better systems
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because you're you brought us. Back I was just being, I was
just, I was just being facetiousby using that.
Well, I understand that the factthat you did it, the words that
came out of your mouth gave a wrong impression in my opinion
that I would rather folks not have because it that creates
that additional words bias, right?
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Polarization, right. We don't want to do that.
We're working on a unification of people that want to be
planetary citizens so that we can have a planet that nurtures
everyone and our society does that as well.
When we continue to do these things.
That's that finger that's pointing with that, that we're
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unconscious of really not sayingyou're unconscious because I
don't know that, you know, maybein that you wanted to say it as
kind of a humorous kind of thing.
However, in my experience, I have to be real careful of that.
I'm one of the most sarcastic son of itches that you'll find.
But I'm learning that, you know,even though the brilliance that
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allows me to do that, the words that I use, I really have to be
tender or not use at all becausethat's an old part of the the
old paradigm that we use to inflict rather than invite.
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I, I will. I will agree, I agree.
And I'll add The thing is each one of the things because I I'm
very much into words and I know that words are constellations
and basically if I say a beach, my beach is different than than
yours. So for me personally.
Well, I love you. I don't want to give you the
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wrong impression that. Was Oh no no, but I but I want
to share. For me personally that's wasn't
an issue but I understand some words to people are trigger
words and not saying it is and and the way I was doing is I
just wanted some levity with it.But I want to get back to what I
the point I was I wanted to share.
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About levity and. Then I, I went, I, I went back
to Canada and I ended up being asked to speak at every freedom
group, people who were resisting.
And for our friends around the world, Canada, New Zealand and
Australia got it the worst. We're talking a 2 1/2 years of
walk down. Like it was just terrible.
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Like Trudeau's government spent a trillion dollars.
Like that's like for Canada that's huge right?
Like he went into debt, like he he implemented all these things
that were not pro human. Sure.
So let's pull it back a little bit.
Let's pull it back and better than looking at those things,
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let's look at on a daily basis because we're about out of time
and I want to get some key points, some insight from you is
to on a, on a daily, weekly, moment to moment basis.
What are the things that helped you move beyond the challenges
and and the constraints that youfelt in order to find the
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freedom to be who you are? Writing One of the things that I
discovered early on is many of the people that we admire from
afar wrought wrote down their thoughts and journals.
And I write, I write every day on anything that captures my
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attention. And I write it because I want to
know it for myself. I want to come to an
understanding. So I'm not going to be wishy
washy when the subject comes up.Like, for example, the
conversation that you and I justhad using the leader of this
nation. I look at words being
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constellations. Basically the most hypnotic word
in anybody's language is their name.
It's their call. It's a bird whistle.
And certain things will trigger people, Certain things will make
people feel relaxed. And I understand it's a
constellation for me. I only came to that
understanding because I write everyday I read something, I
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say, well what do I think about it?
How does it make me feel? Because I'm a slow person.
Meaning how many times have whenI was younger that someone would
say something and I didn't have something to say back.
I want or later on, I thought about it.
Well, as I get older, because I've written more than I've read
now at this stage in my life, I'm able to I'm able to come
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back and to understand it. And I think it goes back to what
we mentioned earlier you mentioned about Socrates, know
thyself. Most people are too frightened
to go and meet the greatest person that they're ever going
to meet, which is their self. And Carl Jung, I, you know, he's
some of his theories I like or not, but one of the things I, I,
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I liked about what he had a metaphor.
He said the morning of life is about accumulation and focusing
out there. And the afternoon and evening is
about going in and basically giving it all away and giving
away your attachments, not just physically or things, but also
your insight, your everything toshare, mentoring younger people,
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things like that. But if you're not conscious of
it, how would you be able to give it?
And as I shared with you, the wake up moment for me is I know
I'm a fine, like I'm infinite. This is finite, right?
You know, but young, one of the things that I ran across one of
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his quotes recently that I thought was just so cool, he
says there is a mystical fool inme that proved to be stronger.
Excuse me than all my science. So I'm going to read that again.
There is a mystical fool in me that proved to be stronger than
all my science. I fully agree that's can I share
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one thing, Can I? Can I?
Well, we're actually way over time, but.
OK, no problem. Fascinating conversation.
I would love to carry on. And yet, you know, I try to keep
things within certain, certain limitations.
And it's been a really enjoyableconversation.
If if you have one thing short as far as an insight for how
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people can shift, I understand, you know, the writing, it gives
you the chance the the catharsicism that happens in
that the being able to see and hear the words that you're
reading in your mind, processingthem and questioning them and
feeding back to you. Maybe something more that you
didn't think about because of that.
It's a wonderful way for self examination to begin as well.
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So what? What would you like as a
finishing comment? I, I want to, I want to share
that my latest book, the King ofMay, sorry.
It starts with gold, which is a metaphor for tangible de risking
and re materializing what's important, but most importantly,
the tools that you can use to look at the world differently.
(01:08:59):
And one of the things that I want to leave with you is years
ago I saw Ken Burns who did all those documentaries like Civil
war, baseball, jazz and everything.
And he says, if you don't know where you've come from, you
won't know where you are or where you're going.
So what we do in this book, it Starts with Gold, is we show
where we've been, where we can go.
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And it all comes down to what you were sharing with Zen.
It's about community, it's beinga sovereign.
It's about going back to the things that are important
because a lot of this stuff is becoming digital.
People are not having relationships, they're not
touching, spelling, all these things, and they're completely
lost. They can't tell the difference
between a digital image and a real person.
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And what we've done here, my Co writer and myself, we actually
lay it down now. I'm an expert in finance.
So in essence, I think it was Steven Cubbies.
He says if all you have is a hammer, everything, it's a nail.
I'm not an expert in a lot of things.
So what we focused is on the financial system.
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And I would agree, it doesn't matter who's in power.
You have to ask what the agenda is.
And I do believe that this is a hiccup because before any great
growth, you're going to have some stumble.
And that's where we are now and I am very optimistic for the
future. Chaos are just patterns, is just
patterns we don't recognize yet.It's new things being presented,
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the challenge to change. You know, there's only three
letters difference between the two words, the LLE and
challenge. And I see those liabilities,
limitations and excuses that we impose upon ourselves and to
grow beyond that sort of. So Peter, thank you so much for
being with us today. I appreciate it.
Thank you, my honor. Great Namaste and in La Ketch
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a New World. I'm your host, Sen Benefiel, and
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Peter, it is so great to have you here when a good friend,
Lonnie Ray recommended you. She's such a sweetheart and
doing great things for people sharing their stories.
Thanks for being here. Thank you, Zed.
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Thank you. It's a real honor.
And mine as well, you know, it'sjust we honor everyone.
It's the whole Namaste in in La Ketch.
A lot of times I don't say what those words mean.
Namaste comes from the Hindu. It means I, I worship that which
is within you. From the Sanskrit in La Quech is
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a Mayan phrase. It means I am another you.
So if we can begin to see each other in that perspective, wow,
what a shift it would make, eh? It would and one of my favorite
books that was suggested to me when I openly started my journey
back in my 20s. Was I in doubt?
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I don't know if you're and it itreally changed.
Yes, it really I'm I'm having a senior moment of who the author
is, but I'll come back to that. I don't think it was.
It's Martin Buber, Martin Martin, Martin Buber.
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Sorry for correcting you. It just it was.
Don't be sorry, I'd love to be corrected.
We're after the truth. It was.
What happened in my 20s, I always felt a little different
in my life was going on a different track.
And I went into the world's largest bookstore in Toronto
where I lived, and literally it was world's largest bookstore
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until it closed and I had a bookof everything and I bought 7
books. And I just did enter the
financial field and reality hit,you know, I was a cocky young
graduate thinking I was going totake over the world.
And I quickly discovered that I had a lot to learn.
So I went to the world's largestbookstore in Toronto and I
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bought a bunch of books on sales, on Neuro Linguistic
program and all these, you know,type on the Myers Briggs all
like I bought 7 books and I never really was a reader.
I read because I had to read. But these books I wanted to read
and I devoured them. And what came out of that is I
then started taking courses and I would travel around North
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America when I had enough money to go to these conferences.
And I went to the first International Anagram
Conference. I went to NLP trainings around
North America and I was a littlekid who was learning some
powerful tools. Meaning when I was looking at
neuro linguistic programming, atfirst, I, I approached it as I
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was going to learn this powerfulway of like, listen to me, you
know, And it's like, in that notrealizing that it's like, it's
still. A mind training, right?
Yeah, and it, it comes, but it comes, it all comes back to you.
However, I'm one of the people in the, I was trained by this
really incredible doctor in Toronto who trained under Wyatt
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Wood Small. And someone who was part of the
group who was a psychologist would bring me around to a a
meetings in the Toronto area andI would do guided meditation.
And she thought that here's a little kid, Not a little kid,
but here's someone who's learneda karate chop who doesn't have
the the deeper understanding because I was really into form.
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I was reading new physics and things like that, but it didn't
mean anything to me. And she said to me, Peter, you
have to read Martin Buber's I and thou.
And I was reading it and I and Iand that was such a powerful
paradigm shift for me. And the reason it was a paradigm
shift for me because I and thou instead of I and it.
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And over the years I've understood it even greater.
So if I look at you as AI can abuse you, I can rob you, I can
do all sorts of things. If I think you are a thou part
of the infinite, I have to like I will want to.
I'm compelled to treat you as anextension of me.
But let me share with you how I've interpreted it, because
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I've spent a lot of time becauseI've spent, Oh my, I don't know,
30 years thinking about it sinceI, I first tried or over 30
years. I in it, I don't see you.
I don't see you. I don't see me.
Then there's I in you. I see you.
But I endow should be do I see myself?
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Because I, if I don't see myself, then I can't see you.
And that's what I endow is So inessence, a lot of people say I
think like, do unto others as you would have done to them.
Well, they're thinking about howthey should treat other people,
but they've never turned the, the they've never turned the
mirror on themselves. How do I treat myself?
And if I treat myself well, I'm going to treat you well.
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Absolutely. And and that's really what self
Love Is All about, right? And that has such a
misunderstood connotation in theworld because it seems selfish.
And yet it's just the opposite. You know, law of 1's.
Another thing you probably ran into LL research.
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And they say that, you know, there's the service to self and
service to others, and we're either promoted by love or fear.
And well, you know, that's stillbinary.
We're in one universe and from our perspective, right,
regardless of all the parallel universe philosophies where our
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experiences of 1. And in that we have the capacity
to understand our integration inthat, our reflection, our
movement, our ability to join with others in a Co creation
process because we have that capacity.
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That's how we're designed to be.And we've been inundated and
programmed by a patriarchal society that initially, you
know, took women as a rib, whichsubjugated them and said, Oh
well, man superior. No, that's such bullshit.
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Sorry, we're equal. We have that's an aspect of the
divine feminine, the divine masculine.
And so those have synonymous, not synonymous, synchronistic
activity, synergistic activity in this Co creation process.
Each one of us have those aspects within us and the
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feminine side is is that in aesthetic side of men.
You know, the feeling, the the emotion, the willingness to be
vulnerable that most men are unwilling to broach.
And the women then are they're learning.
I had to It's interesting. Sorry to go off on a tangent
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here. Willie White Feather, an old
mixed blood Cherokee storyteller.
He was saying that one of their prophecies is that women will
cut their hair, put on warm paint and go to battle.
Well, and this was in the, I mean, early 90s when I did this
and, and sure enough, you know, you look at the corporate world,
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women were cutting their hair, you know, put the suits on the
makeup and and going to battle with guys, right.
So how do we get through all this was one of my questions
early on too, kind of like you, how do we merge these things?
When you were in that process, did you notice some bread
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crumbs, if you will, that allowed that synergistic
awareness to become present? It doesn't necessarily mean you
could do anything about it yet, but in your early training and
the naivete, he still has a student.
Did you find those things? I think one of the things that
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was something that's been both agift and it's also been not a
gift is I, I'm very curious. The blessing of my curious.
It is because because I I could put myself in harm's way from my
curiosity like I will like whatever fear I have and I had
AI didn't experience when I was in university.
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I was sitting in the library at my university and I was going to
run for the executive vice president position list in the
council and I had over 250 signatures and I went to the
library and it was the second largest university in Canada.
It was like 45,000 undergrads and I was sitting there for
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about four hours and I couldn't just submitted it in.
And then the voice came to me and it was my voice says, why
are you so scared like that? Because, because I was going to
put myself out there and I realized something and this has
carried me my entire life. And I think that was like a
pivotal moment. That's why I'm sharing with you
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now, because I wanted it and thereason I wasn't going to do it,
because if I didn't put my, my foot forward, I would never
know. So I can never say, well, I lost
and I didn't deserve it. And it was that pull and, and
throughout my entire life that Iwas, I was like 20 years old.
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I now ask myself when I feel a sense of fear, the question and
I and I, and I feel it because Irealized my body has so much,
you know, it tells me so much that my cognitive brain can't
put into words. Why are you frightening?
You're frightening because it really is dangerous.
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Or you're frightened because if you do it, it doesn't work out.
You're going to be devastated because you put yourself out.
And I realize now if when I answer, it's because you really
want it and that's why you're scared.
That propels me and my curiosity.
And it ought. To right that that fear is a
door to success. It is, but there are legitimate
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ones because, you know, absolutely.
You don't walk out in front of abus, right, right.
But those are those are things are are so silly and
inconsequential when it comes tothat, that that's a good
argument. But at the same time and at the
same time, there's this nature that we have 70,000 thoughts a
day, right? Most of them self deprecating.
And so that continues to hold usback because we're playing the
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imposter syndrome, right? We don't think we're enough,
know enough, have enough, are, you know, all those kinds of
things enough. And the reality is we are
enough, right? And we get to be more enough by
stepping into that, by leaning into the fear and opening the
door. And on the other side of that,
we find out, you know, really it's just about loving and being
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loved and 1st loving self. Otherwise, you can't love others
fully. And what's the depth of love,
right? What did you find when you
started exploring this understanding that you had of
the depths of loving yourself tothe point of becoming fearless
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in those regards? I, I would never say it's
fearless. I just understand by asking that
question. And one of the things that I, I
impress upon everybody is I shared with you, I, I'm highly
kinesthetic. There's moments that basically
are imprinted on me where I tooknotice and that moment I felt
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it, I was in it. It's like, here's something I, I
went all the way to, you know, get 250 signatures and I was
good. I didn't hand it in until the
last 10 minutes and that handingit in changed my life.
Well, it didn't change my life because I believe that this is
my direction and in essence, well change your attitude about
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you. Well, I want to share with you
my thoughts on free will. We have free will.
My definition is this, both of us are meant to do something and
your free will is not to do it and suffer the consequences.
And that's the conclusion I camein my own life.
And I tell younger people that all the time.
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I say you have a unique value proposition.
You have something that's unique.
And there's going to be three types of people you're going to
meet. You're going to meet people
immediately see your unique value proposition.
You're going to just meet peoplewho don't have the eyes yet to
see it, and they will. And there'll be those.
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It doesn't matter what you do, they'll never see it.
And as I got older, I just look at, look at how would I say for
those people who are predisposedand I, I'll give you an example
and how I make that quick, like how that happens and manifests
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quicker. As I shared with you, I'm
originally from Canada. So we don't have like like
oceans and things of that nature.
So there really are no salmon. If I wanted to catch salmon, I'm
not going to go to a river in, let's say, feeding into the
Ontario and Ontario Lake. I'm going to go to the mouth of
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the Simon Fraser River. I have a much better chance I
have to go there. And I'll share with you what a
movie that is symbolizes a lot for me, and my interpretation
might be different than other people.
And it's close Encounters of theThird Coin.
And I'll share with you what it means to me.
No, that began. Because I think.
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Where I grew up. Wow.
I, I actually had ship experiences from the time I was
8 to 10 years old, an orange cigar shaped cloud.
Didn't know anything about it. Just couldn't wait to go back
when I'd wake up in the morning.Never talked to anybody then.
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And I would watch myself get outof bed, climb out my window,
walk across the neighbor's backyard out into a field and
rise up into this, you know, theobserver self watching the
participant. And then in 1981, it was getting
ready to move to Phoenix and thebook falls.
I'm in a metaphysical bookstore in Muncie and a book falls off
the front of me and I walk over and there's nobody else around,
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right? That you've probably had this
happen. I walk over and it's cover up on
open on the floor and it's Ruth Montgomery, strangers among us.
And I'm like, oh, this is interesting.
And I picked it up and turned itover and 1st paragraph that my
eyes are drawn to says the most common contact UFO contactee
experience in the Midwest and late 50s and early 60s was the
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tada orange cigar shaped cloud. And I, I never thought about
that till that moment. I was 23 at the time, right?
So there was 15 years that had gone fast, but those kinds of
thing. And then when close Encounters
came out and it starts in Muncie, it's like, whoa.
I want to, I want to share with you what it's symbolized because
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I realize. Metaphor.
It connected no matter this one of the synchronicities that we
find as we talk. Yes.
So for me, I didn't have the words and we're going to be
talking about an experience I had about two years ago where I
finally have been able to integrate the words to explain
what I experienced. However, with with that movie,
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what it symbolizes because not the greatest acted movie, it's
not. But here are millions of people
who are invited. They're invited and millions of
people don't go. Now here is Ray, who's the hero
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of the story, Richard Dreyfuss. He goes, he's invited and he
goes and all of us have an invitation and where I shared
about free will, It's you have adestiny.
I have a destiny. It's a different destiny.
That's sort of like your your cell.
I'm a cell, right? Like we have different purposes
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and. They all work together.
When? When we minister.
Fuller Buckminister Fuller is one of my heroes in the critical
path. But that to me represents like,
you know, we have a call and my life has not been conventional.
It has been work wise. It's been in the financial field
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in all sorts of areas of as a writer, as a university
professor, as a textbook writer,as a consultant.
However, the way I've gone aboutit, I'm an oddball, an oddball
and I, I am, well, this, I, not that bald, but I do shave.
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But I, but I look at that, I look at that as such a powerful
metaphor that we all have a glimpse.
I think it was Winston Churchill, who I'm not the
greatest fan of, However, you know, a clock could be right
twice a day, right? And he said most people, they
have a moment of inspiration, they fall down, but they quickly
dust themselves off and they rush back to their life.
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And I realized recently and earlier, but I'm willing to take
ownership of it is I believe we're all born NPCS, non
participating characters. I really that however we have
the potential to grow and the question, the the most powerful
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question and I addressed it in my last book to ask because I
had to ask it myself, especiallyduring the beginning of COVID
because my Spidey senses said there's much more to this.
Something's. Going I know something's going
on and I and I know it like you know, but it was all academic to
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me. All my reading, all my studying
or whatever. It's like I felt, you know, the
alarm bells going and the question I asked, and I think
it's a very powerful question and I came up with five answers,
is why do I believe what I believe?
Why do I believe it? And you know, because I'm an
NPCI, just believe it. You know, I believe the world's
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round. I believe the world.
I, I believe the financial system works this way.
I believe for Pharmakeia is it for my best interest.
I just believe everything. I, I believe it because it
hadn't yet impacted me, you know, because I had, I, I really
had a, a charmed life. I've done well professionally.
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So in essence and I and I workedwith entrepreneurs.
So I never really dealt with thegovernment.
And I had a really good friend of mine who worked for the
national broadcaster in Canada who was telling me that I didn't
know in 2015 and 16. He said, Peter, you know, I
don't understand. I said, what do you mean?
He said the, the, it is just changed.
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Like it's just the PC culture. Everything is just changed.
But you live in a special world.And what happened is during
COVID, that world out there thatwas changing society now
impacted me. And I really had to sit down and
ask that question. I want to give you my 5 answers.
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Why do I believe what I believe?And I think that is a one of the
most powerful questions to startyour awakening because it did
things for me well. You question.
You question the truth that you perceive.
Right, well, I want to share with you the answers I gave sure
to myself, I believe because there was no reason to doubt the
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people who told me, you know, there was no, there's no reason
to. And then number 2, when I got a
little older and I and I could have started really asking those
questions. Well, no, I even my mom, dad,
church leaders, whatever, like, you know, it's like you
politician. There was no reason for me to
question. It was just, you know, they seem
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to all it was like a bunch of bees who just start, you know,
flapping their wings and I startflapping my wings.
You know, it's like I'm going togo to school, I'm going to get a
profession, going to be a gerbil.
I'm sorry, a few years ago if I did that to be running to the
hills, maybe you. So number 2, when I get older,
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the question, you know that my reason was I'm just busy.
I'm trying to make a life for myself.
I'm trying to live out there. Like Carl Young says, the first
half of life is building your ego.
And that's, so who's going to look at those things?
I'm, I'm trying to get material things.
I'm trying to be a Peacock, attract the most attractive
woman who's going to have children with me.
I'm going to get a house. I'm going to acquire status and
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everything. The other one is the, the number
3 was, well, I, I, I, I didn't want to ask the question I
didn't like, you know what I mean?
It's easier not to ask it. The 4th 1 is maybe I'm too
simple minded to even know, to formulate that question.
Like, why do I believe what I believe?
But the most important one and the toughest answer was I didn't
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want to be rejected by the community that I was part of.
And it was a community that emerged unconsciously.
And it was not a conscious community.
I had people I lied to. I could talk.
I wasn't conscious of it. And I want to share with you, I
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remember I read a book in 1999, it was called Coal Creation by
Barbara Max Hubbard. I don't know if.
And this book came to know whereI did.
OK, She she. She helped help co-author the Co
Creation Wheel. Well, I, I read her book.
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It was, I went, I was in Boca inFlorida and I'm looking at her
book in the bookstore. I put it down.
And then that night I, I had a very strange day.
That day. I, I knew my father was going to
die that day. And I and I 10 minutes, 10
minutes before I got the call, because if he was in Toronto, a
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light went out in me like something went out.
And when the call came, I said that's my mother say that my
father died 10 minutes before I like it was I have to apologize.
I'm I'm going to sneeze. Apologize.
It was if it was if it was threeyears ago, people would be
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running to the hills, right? My my sneezing and I went.
I went back to the. That's all right.
We're safe. We're at a safe distance.
We we are. So I went back to the bookstore.
I bought her book. I felt drawn to her book, and I
read it. And there was one thing that
changed my life more than much of the other things that she
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wrote in the book. And what changed my life is she
tells the story how she was stuck in Connecticut with five
kids, and she felt isolated. And she walked into a bookstore
and she found Maslow's book. And she wrote a letter saying,
I'll take you to lunch if you come.
And he contacted her. And what she actually said is
those people who write books, and I can tell this one, and I
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read a book where the person is setting up a flare to find other
people. We're seeing the same things.
And now with the Internet like you and I are meeting now, it's
easier now to let them know we're here and and then share
and empty our pockets and share with you said what I saw and you
share with you saw. And that gave me the I if you
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impacted me as a writer, I wouldcontact you and I'd be when I
was younger and I had lots of piss and vinegar, I would go and
ask. You said which I read your book.
You got a biography. Tell me the real books in there
because you know, a lot of people would just put every book
they ever read. I want to know the books that
really changed your life becauseI and I'd go to the world's
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largest bookstore. I lived there about 2-3 times a
week. I, I read probably on average
about two to 300 books a year. I was like looking for an
answer. Well, I, I, I was, I was, I was
living outside myself because because I, I, and I just want to
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share with you an insight for your younger, your younger
listeners, because I'm 56, you know, so I'm at a different
stage right now in my life. I I went and I, I met this
woman. She was in medical school, this
young girl, and she tells me where we're doing the prep call
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to meet later on. I don't remember her name, but
which the gift she gave to me lingers to this day.
So what she does, she says she'sreading the most incredible
book, Siddhartha by Hermann House.
So what do I do? I want to impress her.
I go that afternoon and I buy that book and I'm devouring it
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and this book is blowing my mindbecause here's this young 25
year old cocky kid who thinks he's the first person in the
world ever to have these insights.
Remember those days? I it's.
Different. I read the book and I think I
was 18. It's my first year in college.
It's one of the things I picked after I had my experience.
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So then I kept on reading it every year, sometimes twice a
year, and I was asking myself, why do I keep on having this
attraction towards it? And it's because every time I
read that book. Getting that feeling right now,
I realized I was in a different chapter in the book there.
Let me share what happened. I went out on that date that
night, and my intensity for thisbook overwhelmed her.
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She was not meant to be on my journey.
I couldn't tell you who she was if I bumped into her in the
street. But that book continued, and
it's something I read. And when I wrote my last book
called The King of Main Street, I'm following the key news now.
Let me share with you what happened.
I finally asked myself, I was prepared to ask myself, what's
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your attraction to this book? And I realized I had been in
this, in this journey of like just reading, hoping that
someone else was going to give me the answers.
Like do we give me the calm in here?
Because because I could read intellectually and saying I'm
going to go to this guru, I'm going to go to that thinker
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this. And after a while, it all became
the same thing. I could look at a book, read 3
pages and I would know what was in the book.
Or you just feel it because I read like 5000 books on my
journey and it was almost like maybe smoking cigarettes or
being addicted to something. I was looking for crack cocaine
and what I mean by that for my crack cocaine is getting a way
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of. Thinking your mind was dead.
Completely. Yeah like just go and like you
know, break my paradigm, break my paradigm, break my paradigm
break my like Margaret. Sorry, Barbara Max Hubbard, when
she wrote Coke Creator, she talked about she wanted to
create a special type of university and she had a she had
a list of. Hubbard and it's Max.
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It's Marx. She went from the Homo sapiens
to Homo universalis, yes, and her development and amazing
woman had lunch with her at an event in LA or just in Joshua
Tree a few years before yes, butthe amazing woman now in that.
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Now let's go back to COVID for aminute, because you brought that
up and and that reflection. So as you know, we talked
beforehand there was part of my mission here is to facilitate
harmony among people on planet. Well, how's that going to
happen? In order for anything like that
to happen, there has to be a moment where everybody has the
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opportunity to sequestrate and self examine.
So what happened in COVID, rightbeyond who we want to project
caused it or all the nonsense about it all, all the, you know,
confabulations and narratives that were turned that had turned
out to be false, right as we understand the science and, and
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all the things that weren't involved with it.
Now, however, when it happened, it was like the bell ringing in
me. Here's the beginning of this
process. And I said to my wife, very
first day we went on lockdown. I said to her that because we
were, she knows me well enough that we were anticipating
something like this when it happened.
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Now I really hope that in this sequestration and and obsession
on self hygiene, right, because there's a behavior modification
in process there. And unlike your significant
emotional event, like Massey calls him, right there was this
oh shit, right, that everybody felt and there were some that
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took advantage of that free will, chose to take the
opportunity to ask themselves those questions.
What do I believe in? Who am I what, what do I believe
in? What am I willing to do as a
result of that? Why am I here?
Right. All of those kinds of things.
And then as we began to come outof that, all these virtual
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groups began forming of people like you were talking about
seeking each other and finding them and having these next level
conversations about what's happening, what we can do not to
point fingers to elevate and say, OK, what can we do to Co
create a new normal that we're all happy with that serves
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humanity instead of usurps its power Like what's happening now?
Because we've got everything that we could ever imagine as
far as the resources to take care of everybody across the
board. It's just not distributed
properly to do so, which comes into the management, which comes
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into the system that we've been under the advisement of, if you
will, or influence of globally as well as locally.
And now that nationalistic attitude is starting to
disappear because we're global citizens.
We are planetary citizens. We're on one planet, we are one
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people. And this to me, seems like
common sense. Now, how do we make that sense?
Common is the next step, and that's where you and I are
involved. What can we do so in this?
I think, I think there's I thinkthere's moments like I because
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there was a series of moments and I actually realized that the
universe nudges us and the. Question is all the time, every
moment of every day. Well, sometimes it steps,
sometimes it steps in. It's very pronounced and it says
you're not going this direction.Sometimes it comes and there's
moments in my life. That's the cosmic too before
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right? That that we want to have.
Had. Yet, because we don't make the
decisions that we know are beneficial, we attempt to be
codependent and do things that others think we should do and
then find out that's not the way.
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And I've had a number, I've had a number of those moments.
And then I must, I'm a thick learner because I've always felt
sort of blessed, Like I've seen things, I've experienced things.
Like right now, a school I went to in Canada was the only
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military school in Canada. It's, it's becoming quite
famous. It's called Robert Land Academy.
I saw it. Totalitarianism at this school,
and you know, it's lots of abusehappened at this school and it
just finally closing down. It's becoming a big thing in
Canada and it was considered thetoughest military school in all
of North America. You got kicked out of Valley.
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Canada and what I'm talking about that comes out of COVID
people going wait a minute and this fits into the Mayan
calendar, right, where we have shifted our vibratory rate.
We're at a different level now. We're slightly higher what
doesn't fit to the surface for reformation or complete removal
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because it doesn't fit and and it's like we don't have to do
anything for that well. When you asked about course when
you asked about COVID, one of the things that happened because
I'm anti authoritarian because Ilived in a authoritarian system.
So basically I've I've seen thismovie before but I just.
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Want to question. I just want to step back.
I ignored a lot of things in my own life and I truly believe you
manifest things in your body. And in 2019, I was in Toronto.
I almost died and I was told by the doctor I, you know, I was
highly anemic and I have internal bleeding and I showed
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up and I had like 5.4 hemoglobin.
Like anybody wants to know what normal is?
It's close to 12. And they were looking at me like
how you still standing because Iignored my body, you know, I
just kept on going forward. I, you know, I, I had external
successes. I was literally and my joke was
before I, I'm just, you know, the some relationships were
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toxic. I was saying I'm becoming
spiritually anemic and I I was really anemic and was that that
correlates, huh. It does.
You know, my aura in words, words matter, right?
And you know that that that's a word.
I felt what happened at that point, my, my ex-wife, I was
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married at the time, she was from San Diego and she always
wanted to go back. So I said we had a few
properties in San Diego and I said, OK, let's just do it for a
year and I'll fly back and forth.
So I wouldn't you know, I jump and those are moments in my
life. I literally look at my life and
I've taken serious track jumps. You know what I mean?
It's not like a slow progression.
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No, it's like I'm on this track.Boom, I'm on that track.
And it's very interesting because I was here when COVID
happened because in Canada it became a totalitarian state.
And I knew something was wrong, but I was somewhat, you know,
I'm a stranger in the land. I'm just getting my green card
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because I was married to an American citizen, Robert.
Along with you too. Oh, I was, I was reading him, of
course. And I'll tell you why I was
reading him because the world was scaring me so much.
Because what happened in Canada,what happened in Canada, I
understood this. And this is where where it was
really important is I had to trust my instinct.
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I knew Holocaust survivors growing up and they would tell
me that logic told them to go left, but something told them to
go right. And when they followed the
right, they lived. And people who did the logic
stuff, they ended up dead. And I that's why I turned to the
Hawkins and I read Power versus Force because I realized I had
to make split decisions. And I knew that by asking
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something frame it yes, no and have a very concrete answer.
In order to do the testing too, right?
This is one of the things you mentioned.
Your body's so sensitive, your kinesthetic.
Our bodies are instruments. They are transceivers from the
shoulder up. Most of the time we don't pay
any attention to the body. And yet quantum physics now is
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showing everything is energy. And those instances, those
little tingles or little pains or something like that in your
body is something for you to go,oh, what's that about?
And if as you begin to question that, then the information comes
as to what it is. And it's usually embedded within
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your consciousness. It's some kind of errant
thinking, you know, stinking thinking, if you will, that has
disconnected you from you and the truth that you are perfect
instance being adopted. I had gone through life, you
know, wondering about my birth parents, my wife, my second
marriage. I had a practice when 4 kids.
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I got 8 great grandkids now and but don't have a A because of
friends, don't have a relationship with them however.
So Luba got me a subscription toAncestry in 2017 for her first
Christmas and in 20 January 2019my half sister shows up.
And so I meet my birth mother that summer and we speak with
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her and oh it was amazing you know.
However, the the point I was going to make is that I was the
last person on her bucket list. The family didn't know about me
until 10 years prior when her mother was on her deathbed and
she blurted it out asking about me because nobody else knew
about me. And so then she went through
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four different kinds of cancer and was in remission at the time
that we met. And then after we met with
everything, it just was fine. I had no regrets.
I had no angst, I had no anger. I just was loving the fact that
she loved me enough to give me up when she didn't think that
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she could take care of me. And I ended up with a wonderful
family that had and was given a just an absolutely amazing
childhood as a result, full of opportunities to learn and grow
and be curious and, and not be threatened because I was so
curious. But that a year and a half
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later, she passed away. It it was OK.
And that we got, you know, everything was cool.
She realized that she didn't have to hold on to her angst
anymore, regret or anything of that nature, which she had held
on to. And I think women who give their
children up do. For sure.
And then that manifested in her body is various cancers because
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you eat yourself up because you're what?
Eating yourself up inside because of the anger?
Scary. So that's a no brainer when that
happens. Then there's ways to move
through that if you catch it soon enough, right?
But The thing is, back to the sensitivity of the body,
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learning how to tune it, let alone play in concert, is one of
the objectives we have as being in human form.
And I, I feel very fortunate because I speak from the lower
diaphragm. I feel things, I feel my life
through. And you know, as I shared, I, I
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was a master trainer of neuro linguistic programming.
And most people, they cut their breathing off when they speak,
right? They're not feeling for me.
I have to feel it intuitively. Now.
I've ignored things and when I ignored things I like, I I'm
quite aware and. Then you regret it later.
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Well, not no, no, because everything is part of a life
lesson. Oh yeah.
Well, you regret it. I'm not saying you carry the
regret. It's like, oh, right.
And that's that moment of regretthat you then let go of.
And it's like, OK, now what did I learn there?
Maybe I, I used to hold regret, but I, I, you know, for many
years and I learned the presupposition to, to approach
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things. There's no, no such thing as
failure. It happens to be a lesson and
life is school. So in essence, you know, there's
something later, yeah, later on this is going to have incredible
value. And it did have much of what
happened to me and the experiences I had when I was a
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kid, which were very tough during COVID.
I was, you know, I was aware some things were wrong.
I took care of precautions. I remember meeting a familiar my
child. For those of your listeners who
don't know what that is, in Britain and in Canada, not so
much. In the US, there was a morning
sickness drug that they gave to women while their children,
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their babies were forming their limbs.
So babies were being born with like dull limb instead of like a
full lead. And this is the reason why when
women were pregnant are pregnant, women won't eat a can
of tuna, God forbid mercury or smoke or do anything because
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that was like the shock into thesystem.
Like, Hey, you just don't take anything while you're pregnant
because look what happened when you listen to doctors and you
took this. So it things didn't mesh with
me. And there were a number of
things that became very, I'd be very aware of and I became a
deep student. Like, you know, I started
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studying virology and like the history of it and everything I
would read. Then I started reading white
papers at the UN, the World Economic Forum, the World Bank,
you name it, gab, everything. And that's.
As many Pisceans as I know, I think that's their nature.
They just dive into everything. My wife said that way, too.
She's one of the most investigative people that that
I'm aware. As a Cancerian, I'm much more
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empathic. I don't need to do that because
I know the truth's going to emerge because of the process
that I've learned within myself.Just to be patient and wait,
right? You still have the intention.
You still have the curiosity andthe questions, but you don't
have, or at least for me, I don't have the mental
perturbations that are involved in order to get the answers
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right. Oh.
I'm and I'm not saying. And there's no judgement.
Right, this is just oh, I know different operating system.
I became like, you know, when I get well, I shared with you like
during I probably read over 5000books.
So in essence, I will exhaust topics, I will exhaust them.
I will, you know, I will even know what the book's going to
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say. But basically I have a
discussion, a pseudo conversation with the author.
And I can tell an author who's writing because the subject and
they want to get everybody up. And I could tell when he says
I'm great, I can immediately tell that I can turn off to it.
And I'm, I'm very quick to it now and that, you know, through
discernment. But what happened during COVID
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is I, I knew something was wrongand I started reading all this
stuff and educating because my world had been basically I, I
lived a world where I got to create my own world and I would
keep the government and everybody out only.
But there was no choice, you know, it was all being
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implemented. And I had a good friend and this
is to it was to my detriment andto my positive because I in
Canada, I was a regular on national television and finance.
I was a university professor. I was a consultant within my
area of expertise. No one knew my politics.
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I was just a nice guy with a smile who knew what to do
certain things and would come tome.
Well, a good friend of mine, like someone I consider like my
brother. He was a prosecutor for the
Canadian government and he was forced into retirement because
he was not going to take the medical experiment.
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And but he was someone who was OCD.
What I mean, he was funny, perfect, whatever.
And he could make jokes about the fact you could set you're
clocked by him and he needed buthe left Canada the last you.
Need those kind of people too, right?
You know buddy, that way we we all of each other and we don't
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even realize. Oh, he was like, like he was,
you know, he was my brother. I get sad about this, but I want
to share what, what, what, what occurred.
So I was so happy because he didsomething so out of character.
The last day that Canadians who were not Vax could fly out of
Canada, he fled and he went downto Mexico.
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The problem is his OCD kicked inand he didn't have his patterns.
He went back to Canada. He was going to be made a judge
before he was forced in retirement too.
He kills himself. I get the call on December 26th,
2021 and then a few days later I'm watching Vaccine Choice
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Canada and Naomi Wolf is on and I don't know if you're familiar
with Naomi Walsh. She was.
She's one of the most vocal. People not necessarily who or
what she's. One of the most she was she, she
was one of the most vocal peopleabout the backseat when the
Pfizer documents were released. She's got like 3000 people who
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volunteered, experts who read through it and shown us how this
thing was just poison. Yeah, there were.
Several scientists that were coming up and and coming out.
Right, but but she's. Getting shut down on YouTube and
Facebook and every place else, right, That was a that's such.
It was so obvious. I, I had that censorship because
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at that point I, I wrote a pieceon my friend Larry and I gave it
to her and it went viral and hadlike 3 million reads, you know,
and it went through the Canadiangovernment too.
Like it was subversive. Like in essence, one of someone
I knew contacted me saying that they, they was told to not share
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it because it basically used himkilling himself and talking
about how this was a scam and about this, this person.
And then the truckers happened. And as a Canadian, I cried.
Like literally I thought my, because I was stuck in America.
I, I never, I never, I never thought I'd be, I would die
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outside of Toronto. I'm not in Toronto.
I live in San Diego. Now my, my kids were American to
begin with, but now they're truly San Diego's.
I don't think I could ever get the back to the cold.
I got a couple of steps that were stationed at Navy base
there. They're they're both on a sub
now and the other ones in Okinawa.
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Well I I started speaking out and I got hate.
I lost in one week I've got a big following on LinkedIn.
I lost 5000 people from Canada or whatever.
And like these people were I I don't call them sheeple.
The term I use in my book and issleepless, not sheeple, because
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sheeple says that a person doesn't have the potential to
wake up. A sleepo has the potential to
wake up. They have the potential, you
know, like they're groggy, right?
We all wake up asleep, and we have the potential to wake up a
little more each and every day, or through our legs.
There it was the choice when everybody went on lockdown and,
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and the choices of whether to get back or not took place.
And, and you know, my wife and I, we were already spending 24/7
together. Her studio was in the house.
She's a piano teacher. I worked out of the house.
We didn't change our activities.We didn't put on masks.
We didn't do that. And we went pretty much anywhere
that we could, right? There was a few places that
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wouldn't let you in if you weren't masked.
Nobody questioned the vaccine. We didn't fly anywhere.
And yet our lives didn't change.They got better what opposite of
what other people were experiencing, and it was so hard
to see people suffer because of their own choices.
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Well, one of the things that really great well, I really
learned to stand up. I would walk out with like I
would go to places with the government document that says
that if I told you I was exempt and you press you personally
would have a $75,000 fine. People didn't know this and I
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would hold it up, take my cameraafter they tell me like, you
know, I couldn't come in and I said, you sure you want to ask
me again to put on the mask and then I would go, I want you to
read with $75,000 personally notand someone who's a greeter at a
dollar store is not going to then stop me.
I was embarrassing to my kids because I was a sovereign.
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What are you doing? You're standing up for what
needed to be stood for. And the reason I did this and I
shared with you earlier, I, I went to a school that was, it
was a totalitarian school. And right now it's just been
closed for like 40 years of abuse and it's going to become
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big. They're doing a documentary for
Netflix on it. I'd seen it.
I wasn't really impacted by it. The things that happened to
other kids. I, you know what, I wasn't
party, but I seen it and I felt it.
It was in my muscles. There's an African saying that
says it's not real and less in your muscles.
It was my muscles, my Spidey says.
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I said I've seen this before, itdoesn't end well and I'm not
going and I'm not going to participate in it.
And it's like usually when you find out with a bully, they want
to find people who are going to bend the knee.
As soon as I said this to some big guy, you say you put your
mask on it or else and I'd show this, you have to see I'm not
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going to even the manager being called.
I'm not willing for this corporation to get a $75,000
fine. You know, it's just and what was
it was paper. That's the power of words too.
Virus. I'm friends with one of the Co
founders of Greenpeace and he ishe's pro carbon.
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He said think about carbon and viruses, two things you can't
see. I studied hypnosis for 30 years.
I'll tell you the most powerful thing about studying hypnosis is
actually telling you I studied hypnosis.
The word puts the person the trans, not me.
And that's what was happening. Scary.
You're dirty this and that. You know I like now I know how
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like Jews were rounded up and said like the the Germans
weren't bad people. They were the most educated,
most advanced people in the world.
But what happened is a corrosivememe got into them.
And guess what? People did not stand up because
all tyrannies fall when good people say no, I will not, I
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will not participate. And I think because because who
is worse? The person who gives the order,
the one who follows the order, the one who follows the order.
I actually know that there were people who really bought into it
and still buy into it. I understand them.
The problem I have and I becausethe sleep bulls I break into two
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categories, are a sleep bull. So a sleep bull is not a sheep.
This is a person who could wake up.
But sleep OLS fall into two categories, and I define this in
my new book. The first category is a useful
idiot. What is a useful idiot?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're right.Yeah, maybe they'll wake up.
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But I'll tell you the ones I have a problem with.
So I have a problem with the useful tools.
They know it's wrong and they still do it.
And you want to know something. If you discover something, you
could have all the excuses. You're an MPC, you're asleep,
you're asleep. O, that's one thing.
But once you know and you still persist, you are part of the
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problem. And that was the conclusion I
came to. And when my friend Larry took
his life, I started speaking outAnd in Canada, and this is
really weird and my LinkedIn andit's LinkedIn, LinkedIn is not
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popular, right? It's like the boring man's
women's platform, right? I was getting up to two million
impressions a week off the stuffI was writing, the videos I was
doing, and I just, but what happened out of it is the right
people were showing up. And what do I mean by the right
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people? We're having a real
conversation. I was present to my life.
This conversation you and I are having, we're present.
I don't think I was present. I know when I almost died in
2019 and they were telling me something is wrong with me, I
was already making plans for next week.
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I didn't know that after the surgery and everything, I was
also going to be wearing a catheter for two months like I
just thought I'd be able to. I wasn't present.
Oh, the graces of getting. Old I, you know, I have my
little vulnerable share. You know, my prostate did its
thing. It's the only thing that's ever
happened to me. And I ended up having to wear a
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catheter for three weeks afterwards.
And you know that's that's not afun thing to do and certainly
limits your activity. Yeah, well, you know, and I and
I like, I have no like no shame.It's part of getting old.
My my point is, they are. What they are right?
Why can't we be open and vulnerable enough just to share
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what is now that doesn't? You know my dad used to say the
truth is less than less than Full disclosure, right?
You don't have to give all the intricate details.
Oh, I'm. Not kidding however, but life is
what it is. You have things going on, it's
what makes us available to each other's.
That shared experience that we can have and understand and have
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empathy for with others. Now it it in this movement
towards an end with your book, right?
Where is the gold? I'll tell you where the I'll
tell you where the gold is. My you know, things were
happening. Things that didn't sit right
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with me sort of fell out of my life, you know, IA chapter in my
life. I had been married to someone
who for 20 years. We had a, you know, our
relationship was what I needed to be experienced and it was
coming to an end. I finally was able to go back to
Toronto after not being there for quite a long time.
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It was very funny when I shared with you I was getting 2 million
impressions a week when I was really speaking out.
You know, it's like I'm thinking, didn't you guys watch
Sesame Street? What, what does it, what does it
fit like the other, you know, like that's how I was doing and
I was like asking questions because my thought was not like
the speak at people. It's like, I'm hoping that your
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front lobe will start clicking, you know, like one of the ways.
And before I move into that, what, what, what the example I
would give is if you go want to wake someone up, the first thing
I, I just ask people like I, I, I like Jesus or in Christ, you
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know, it's like my, my thing is,I'm just going to have love
towards you. I'm not going to judge you.
That's what that's. The thing we do right, we tend
to point fingers and want to condemn, criticize, castigate,
whatever, right, not realizing that we got 3 coming back at us
and we ever you know, there's that Trinity again, right?
So do we have solutions for that?
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You know that this is the whole thing about.
Well, my my whole thing is. If I can finish here for just a
second, when the when you have the that kind of opportunity to
look at what's the potential here, what can we find to take
us further? It's like Buckminster Fuller,
right? But before him, Socrates said,
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don't fight, create a better system, right?
So that's what we're doing now in this process.
How do we create this better system and is this the gold that
that that you're bringing out inthe in the explanation of your
book? Yes, partially.
I just want to share something. So, you know, my marriage fell
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apart. You know, I'm my business.
I don't want to do what I used to do.
I can't go back. It's like, you know, there's
three things I learned in life you can't do.
You can't go home. You can't go to home you left
you, you can't go to a job you you're no longer with and you
can never return back to a relationship.
However, I went back to Toronto and what was really interesting
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out of this 2 million. People a week.
Who were like, you know, clicking on my stuff. 600,000
were Canadians. Most were in the Greater Toronto
Area. For those of your listeners who
don't know, Canada's 40 million people, But the Greater Toronto
Area happens to be about 27% of the whole country's population.
So if Trump turns Canada into the 51st state, he just has to
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get rid of let's say about A5, A5 hour drive 100 miles north of
the US Canada border and he can have all the resources and
everything 'cause they all that's where Canada lives.
It's like California, everyone lives on the coast.
This is actually more concentrated.
There's like 27 million people out of 41 million who live on
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this seven hour drive. I'm.
Caution you, Peter, cause here'sone thing that I heard you say.
You brought Trump in and you gave an impression that didn't
feel good to me, right? Those kinds of things to me are
unnecessary in looking at creating the better systems
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because you're you brought us. Back I was just being, I was
just, I was just being facetiousby using that.
Well, I understand that the factthat you did it, the words that
came out of your mouth gave a wrong impression in my opinion
that I would rather folks not have because it that creates
that additional words bias, right?
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Polarization, right. We don't want to do that.
We're working on a unification of people that want to be
planetary citizens so that we can have a planet that nurtures
everyone and our society does that as well.
When we continue to do these things.
That's that finger that's pointing with that, that we're
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unconscious of really not sayingyou're unconscious because I
don't know that, you know, maybein that you wanted to say it as
kind of a humorous kind of thing.
However, in my experience, I have to be real careful of that.
I'm one of the most sarcastic son of itches that you'll find.
But I'm learning that, you know,even though the brilliance that
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allows me to do that, the words that I use, I really have to be
tender or not use at all becausethat's an old part of the the
old paradigm that we use to inflict rather than invite.
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I, I will. I will agree, I agree.
And I'll add The thing is each one of the things because I I'm
very much into words and I know that words are constellations
and basically if I say a beach, my beach is different than than
yours. So for me personally.
Well, I love you. I don't want to give you the
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wrong impression that. Was Oh no no, but I but I want
to share. For me personally that's wasn't
an issue but I understand some words to people are trigger
words and not saying it is and and the way I was doing is I
just wanted some levity with it.But I want to get back to what I
the point I was I wanted to share.
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About levity and. Then I, I went, I, I went back
to Canada and I ended up being asked to speak at every freedom
group, people who were resisting.
And for our friends around the world, Canada, New Zealand and
Australia got it the worst. We're talking a 2 1/2 years of
walk down. Like it was just terrible.
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Like Trudeau's government spent a trillion dollars.
Like that's like for Canada that's huge right?
Like he went into debt, like he he implemented all these things
that were not pro human. Sure.
So let's pull it back a little bit.
Let's pull it back and better than looking at those things,
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let's look at on a daily basis because we're about out of time
and I want to get some key points, some insight from you is
to on a, on a daily, weekly, moment to moment basis.
What are the things that helped you move beyond the challenges
and and the constraints that youfelt in order to find the
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freedom to be who you are? Writing One of the things that I
discovered early on is many of the people that we admire from
afar wrought wrote down their thoughts and journals.
And I write, I write every day on anything that captures my
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attention. And I write it because I want to
know it for myself. I want to come to an
understanding. So I'm not going to be wishy
washy when the subject comes up.Like, for example, the
conversation that you and I justhad using the leader of this
nation. I look at words being
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constellations. Basically the most hypnotic word
in anybody's language is their name.
It's their call. It's a bird whistle.
And certain things will trigger people, Certain things will make
people feel relaxed. And I understand it's a
constellation for me. I only came to that
understanding because I write everyday I read something, I
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say, well what do I think about it?
How does it make me feel? Because I'm a slow person.
Meaning how many times have whenI was younger that someone would
say something and I didn't have something to say back.
I want or later on, I thought about it.
Well, as I get older, because I've written more than I've read
now at this stage in my life, I'm able to I'm able to come
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back and to understand it. And I think it goes back to what
we mentioned earlier you mentioned about Socrates, know
thyself. Most people are too frightened
to go and meet the greatest person that they're ever going
to meet, which is their self. And Carl Jung, I, you know, he's
some of his theories I like or not, but one of the things I, I,
(01:06:36):
I liked about what he had a metaphor.
He said the morning of life is about accumulation and focusing
out there. And the afternoon and evening is
about going in and basically giving it all away and giving
away your attachments, not just physically or things, but also
your insight, your everything toshare, mentoring younger people,
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things like that. But if you're not conscious of
it, how would you be able to give it?
And as I shared with you, the wake up moment for me is I know
I'm a fine, like I'm infinite. This is finite, right?
You know, but young, one of the things that I ran across one of
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his quotes recently that I thought was just so cool, he
says there is a mystical fool inme that proved to be stronger.
Excuse me than all my science. So I'm going to read that again.
There is a mystical fool in me that proved to be stronger than
all my science. I fully agree that's can I share
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one thing, Can I? Can I?
Well, we're actually way over time, but.
OK, no problem. Fascinating conversation.
I would love to carry on. And yet, you know, I try to keep
things within certain, certain limitations.
And it's been a really enjoyableconversation.
If if you have one thing short as far as an insight for how
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people can shift, I understand, you know, the writing, it gives
you the chance the the catharsicism that happens in
that the being able to see and hear the words that you're
reading in your mind, processingthem and questioning them and
feeding back to you. Maybe something more that you
didn't think about because of that.
It's a wonderful way for self examination to begin as well.
(01:08:35):
So what? What would you like as a
finishing comment? I, I want to, I want to share
that my latest book, the King ofMay, sorry.
It starts with gold, which is a metaphor for tangible de risking
and re materializing what's important, but most importantly,
the tools that you can use to look at the world differently.
(01:08:59):
And one of the things that I want to leave with you is years
ago I saw Ken Burns who did all those documentaries like Civil
war, baseball, jazz and everything.
And he says, if you don't know where you've come from, you
won't know where you are or where you're going.
So what we do in this book, it Starts with Gold, is we show
where we've been, where we can go.
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And it all comes down to what you were sharing with Zen.
It's about community, it's beinga sovereign.
It's about going back to the things that are important
because a lot of this stuff is becoming digital.
People are not having relationships, they're not
touching, spelling, all these things, and they're completely
lost. They can't tell the difference
between a digital image and a real person.
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And what we've done here, my Co writer and myself, we actually
lay it down now. I'm an expert in finance.
So in essence, I think it was Steven Cubbies.
He says if all you have is a hammer, everything, it's a nail.
I'm not an expert in a lot of things.
So what we focused is on the financial system.
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And I would agree, it doesn't matter who's in power.
You have to ask what the agenda is.
And I do believe that this is a hiccup because before any great
growth, you're going to have some stumble.
And that's where we are now and I am very optimistic for the
future. Chaos are just patterns, is just
patterns we don't recognize yet.It's new things being presented,
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the challenge to change. You know, there's only three
letters difference between the two words, the LLE and
challenge. And I see those liabilities,
limitations and excuses that we impose upon ourselves and to
grow beyond that sort of. So Peter, thank you so much for
being with us today. I appreciate it.
Thank you, my honor. Great Namaste and in La Ketch
(01:10:52):
and thanks for sticking with us for this episode of One World in
a New World. I'm your host, Sen Benefiel, and
as I said before, do like, follow, subscribe and share.
It helps us all out. And visit planetarycitizens.net
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I'll see you next time.
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