Ep 203 This Could Change the World - Unlocking the Code of Quantum Biology - One World in a New World - Apocalyptic Chats

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Namaste and in La Ketch, and welcome to this episode of One
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Now, this week's guest is a quantum biologist.

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His name's Doctor Kieran Johnson.
He is the CEO and founder of Quantum Technologies Limited.
It's a quantum biology regenerative medicine company.
Safe to say he's got a PhD in biochemistry.
He's been a senior research scientist at multiple large

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companies, and what he says is biology is a great teacher.
Putting that knowledge into practice to come up with clever
ways to work with nature to generate your desired outcome is
how I operate. So we're going to get right back
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It's so great to have you here. I've been looking forward to
this. We're going to dive into some
subject matter that very few caneven understand, let alone dive
into, and I hope we can make it understandable for our audience.

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I'll try to avoid the numbers inand stick with the heartfelt
connection to people in order tomake it more palatable.
Well, it's all about interconnection, right?
You know, these discussions thatwe have are about bridging the
inner and outer realities. And you had a very deep inner

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reality that you've explored andfound some insight and wisdom
and information that you've beenable to bring out from there and
share it with the rest of the world.
And we'll get into that in a moment.
First, though, in bridging thoseworlds, when did you first begin
to have an inkling or understandor an experience of an

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interconnectedness beyond what you knew was possible or maybe
not possible? It's just beyond the normal, you
know, situation around you that kind of blew your mind.
I would I, you know, as a child,you know, I lived in a small
town in New Zealand called Temuka.

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And it was like, you know, we lived on Shore St. and we had a
row of trees that I used to walkto and from school and I'd talk
to, you know, there's a golf course right beside the trees.
And you know I. Wouldn't be there.
Communicate, I'd communicate with with the trees and with the

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the vines. Not really kind of in a, in a
kind of open way, but just kind of in a, in a, in a kind of
dialogue about, you know, where would I find a golf ball?
Because we used to, we used to go golf ball hunting me and my
brother. And we'd we'd find golf balls
and then we'd sell them back to the the people who played golf

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and get a few dollars. To do that.
Yeah, yeah. And, and so when you Start
learning, I guess how far somebody could hit a ball and
whereabouts when they made a badshot where the balls would end
up, you kind of know that the trees are hiding them.
And, and so I'd talk to the vines and kind of ask them to

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kind of show me where the balls were.
Well. That's cool.
I mean, you know, and as a kid, why, you know, you're just
exploring. Why not just give yourself the
freedom to do that? Yeah, I guess I was.
You know, I used to pick the violets and bring them home to
my mother. I would, I guess, and really

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enjoy just being out in nature, connected to nature.
And you know, one of the things that I found which is really
fascinating was a whole cluster of clump of four leaf clovers.
And you know the four. Leaf, I thought you found a
cluster of golf balls from the talking.
Well, that's that's kind of funny because there was another

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as part of that experience that I had in 2013, one of the images
that I saw was a a New Zealand flex Bush with a hole underneath
that full of golf balls. And I was like, that's a.
Really weird kind of vision to have, right?
And it's like. You kind of maybe even took you
back to those days of your earlyconversations too.

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Could could have, but but what? What turned out is that there
was a football field where my son was playing football, and
near the football field there's a driving range.
And New Zealand has a Penguin that Burrows and the golf balls
potentially look a lot like an egg or a stone that it could use

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to. And so it had collected
literally, I think it was 150 balls.
My son got out of the hole. It was like, what?
What a score, huh? Yeah, totally, totally right.
So it's. Like I can't tell you how many
balls I've bought on you just. Need Penguins to find the balls
to sell the to yeah sell the balls back to the driving range,

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but they they got a free game ofmini golf out of it they
returned the balls I would have I would have sold them but my my
son being. Alias.
He returned the balls to the. He wanted to have more fun, not
so much work in selling, right? Yeah, yeah, True, true.
Yeah. So, yeah, it's kind of
fascinating to see the the experience that I had as a child

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and, you know, talking to the trees and finding bulls and and
something that my son found in terms of the Penguin hiding
bulls in a in a Burrow under a flex Bush, which which is one of
the visions that I had as a as that experience that we'll get
get to eventually. But yeah, strange, strange how
there's this kind of karmic, energetic temporal cycle that

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that we hold within us, which iskind of beautiful when you when
you get to see it and experienceit.
And you allow it, right? I think as children we all have
that opportunity and and we're born geniuses, perhaps, right,
Because we haven't been programmed out of it yet.
And then the environment takes over and we do our best to try

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to fit in based on how we perceive the environment
interacting with us and us interacting with the
environment. That has diminishing returns
often times. Now, how did you find that
childlike innocence and naivety in speaking with nature to take

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you into that next phase of growing up and and your
maturation process? Did it continue?
Did you, you know, leave it aside, or were there indicators
that that golden thread was still running through your life?
Yeah, I guess, you know, my first 9 or 10 years of my life

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were very happy, right? Connected to the natural
environment. My my mother and father would
call me a bugger of a boy because I would go and collect
insects, bring them inside and the my dad worked at a sawmill

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in the weekend and. And so I would go and, you know,
I would lift up all the piles ofwood and get down to the bottom
where the lizards and frogs wereand I'd bring them home.
So we had whistling tree frogs and the toy toy Bush by by our
swimming pool. And that really annoyed the
neighbors because that'd be up all night singing as a child, I

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guess. Yeah, that that that thread of
connected to nature was incredibly strong.
And and I found, you know, I wasn't really a people person,
right? I was quite, I was the youngest
of three children, my elder brother four years older than
me, my sister five years older than me.
So I was a little bit of a loner.

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And I found, I guess, the solacein, in nature, right?
Connecting, connecting to naturein, in that kind of natural
environment. Yeah.
Those are things that you know, as, as kids, I, I grew up saying
that I had a woods that was so 3/4 of a mile square maybe, and

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it was 1/2 mile, maybe a little less from our home.
And so I would walk back there as a kid and spend all day by
myself. I was adopted.
I didn't really think about that, but there was a certain
part of me that liked being by myself and exploring nature in
ways that nobody else seemed interested in doing.

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And, you know, I'd sit by the Creek and, and play with the
tadpoles and frogs and, and salamanders and snakes and, you
know, sometimes I'd bring them home.
And there was just, you know, and my parents never said
anything about that. I think they thought that it was
maybe kind of cool because they saw the excitement in me.

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And when I was excited about something, they were too, most
of the time, until I became, youknow, my late teens.
Yeah, I guess my my life changeddramatically at 11 when mum
committed suicide, right? So that really.

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Yeah, that's. Yeah.
What? What?
Was that I mean, because there'sin today's world, right, there's
a lot of frustration, pain, suffering, trauma, and those are
that event has got to be one of the worst traumas a child could
experience. How?
How do you operate inside with that and get through it?

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Well, as a as a child, you don'thave the tools, right?
You don't have the tools to be able to even ask the question of
why or And you know that deep pain was in me for a long time,
I'm sure. It was.
And what was interesting is whatled up to that.

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You know, I was in and out of hospital.
I wasn't growing. I was very small for my age.
They even, you know, tested my. You got to watch out for those
short people. Well, I come from the land of
hobbits, so my, you know, they even, you know, tested to see if

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my digestion was working properly and I was in hospital.
I had problems and I was all kind of stemming from the
external environment that I was in that was leading up to my
mother kind of having having. It would have had to been some
extenuating circumstances. Definitely.

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And I didn't, you know, as a child you as you know as a
father, you try to protect your children from from that.
And you know what I was experience after mum's death, I
couldn't walk really without pain for six months in my hips
and knees. I ended up having psoriatic
arthritis and that was really, you know, traumatic.

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You hold this trauma in your body and it.
You withdraw from everything because you've been hurt so
deeply that all that pulling in is going to have some physical
effects. Yeah, yeah.
So it did. I, I very much learned about
pain. It was like, sure, as a, as a,

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you know, losing a parent, the inability to communicate, the
changes in your environment, no control whatsoever about what's
happening around you, right? So I didn't have.

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The the pain of, say if I may, being orphaned and adopted,
right? You don't really know about
that. I found out when I was four
years, 4 1/2 when they brought my sister home.
My parents decided it was time to tell me I was adopted.
And you know, at that point, kids can really go awry, right,
With all of the the whys, right.And fortunately, for whatever

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reason, I didn't have those questions.
Yeah, they were there, right. Here's my real biologicals.
Why did they give me up? And but the concern at that
level wasn't there because I experienced unconditional love
from these parental units that had been taking care of me.
So there was no angst and wondering if things could be

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better, right? They were, they were just
amazing for me. What I did ended up the question
that came as a result of that was if I have a father and
Mother in heaven, can I talk to them now for a 4 1/2 year old,
where did that come from? Right.
And soon thereafter, I found outthat I could.

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And, and that's kind of an interesting story.
Not for this venue, though. We're talking about you.
So as we as you began to move through this trauma in your body
and and transcend it, how did that process evolve?

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Really, it was the only kind of way I, I knew how.
And that was essentially ignore it, suppress it and block it
out. So I buried it internally.
And yeah, I had questions that I, I wanted answered, but I
didn't know how to ask them and I didn't know who to ask.

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My family wasn't one who was open enough to talk about these
kind of traumas. So so yeah, I, I reached out as
well as an 11 year old to kind of ask the the father why, why,
why is this happening? What was the you know, I wanted
to understand. I wanted a reason for it that

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that kind of sent me on a a pathdo.
You think parents today have because you know, we're probably
not that dissimilar in age and you know, we have some
attributions that we've gone through and you know, you're a
father. I, I know, I don't know if your
grandfather yet. I've got 8 great grandkids.

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So there's this notion of what can we do, knowing what we do to
help prepare to be more open, tobe more nurturing of these kinds
of neurodiversity and experiential events that haven't

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been talked about and have, by our own recognition, caused
unresolved trauma later in life that then needs to be addressed.
How do you see that changing in the world around you?
Well. I, I guess the changes that I've
made in order to kind of own my story is to be open about it,

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right? To speak, speak openly.
The, the interesting thing with dad is my immediate, you know,
family, my wife, my children, they're sick of hearing it.
It's like they don't, I don't want to, they don't want to
listen. Well, yeah, I I can understand
and and yet they're. Fair enough right, fair enough.

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So you kind of the experience ofletting it go and lending it all
out, you know, incredibly healing and and regenerative
when you release that at such a subatomic energetic level that
that, you know, they got to witness that.
And that's just like, well, let's put that over in that

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basket and we won't go there. So in a, in a way that
communication globally openly issomething I'm very happy to
share because it was such a revelation in terms of as a
scientist witnessing transcending experiences

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subatomically within the mind inthat energetic kind of doorway
is, is so confronting for somebody who.
And exciting. I incredibly and you want to
share the excitement with them. So it's just like, well, no, no,
no, no. I'm.
A kid don't go there. So, you know, in a way you kind

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of have to compartmentalize yourlife again into into what you
can share with the right people at the right time in order to
get. And that's key, having the
empathy to understand when and where to share.
Yeah, yeah, totally. And when you have the
experience, the, the empathy andthe knowledge is kind of a

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little bit broken in the experience.
So you're very open, very empathic and, and, and just want
to share, you know, in that, in that way, the Holy Spirit speaks
through you and their brokennessis being healed and that

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sharing. So in a way, it's part of the
healing journey to to kind of release you.
Know the core of what we're doing in that, you know, the,
this experience, it brings out that intense understanding of
the depth of love, right, of thetotal freedom, unconditional
energy that's there. And the sharing of that

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sometimes is a little overwhelming to others, right?
They don't know how to take it because they don't have a direct
experience of it. So they're in this, you know,
it's like, not that they're in apolitical battle, right, but
just as in, you know, the, the right and the left, right, one
side's pro, the other side's not, you know, on certain

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issues. And the pro side is more open,
inspiring, looking at the positive things.
And the other side is more trying to tear things down and,
and come from that fear based place, right, the the love based
place. So when you've got that, that
Love Is All powerful, right? And so the listener, if they're

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not able to reach that, then they're like, well.
You know, and right away you getmaybe this weird or insane or
crazy or whatever and they turn and run.
Now, how do we avoid that because we know the depth of
what we know to be true And yet how do we effectively TuneIn in

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order to be able to share that and elevate a situation, whether
it be a person, a work group or a company, you know, a a
relationship. Yeah.
How do you find that that works best for you for?
Me, you know, I, I really enjoy my time alone, so I know I can

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be true to that experience and reach the the light.
You're not a water sign by chance, are you?
No, my wife is a Pisces, but I'man Aries.
So I'm, I'm here, right? I'm, I'm but but what broken me

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in the healing that that came, that love really kind of
centered me back into a a holistic kind of unification in,
in my being. So yeah, you have to give people
space and the time for them to grow themselves.
So and and. And yet we're so impatient

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today. You know, we got to have, like,
enlightenment, right? It's a drive through.
We pick up the book and we take off and we're done, right?
That's not how it works. There's this process involved.
Yeah, there's atomic, atomic timings.
To achieve the growth of that energy within you, you have to

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grow the fertility of that soil.And you can only do it do that
inwardly facing because you're energetically putting light
energy within the basket. It's all about the choices you
make, how you see yourself as connected or not, or somewhere

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in between, right? Which is where most people are
at. They have moments where it's
like, wow, how'd that happen, right?
And it was something that they probably naively wished for
without realizing that it couldn't happen, right?
That belief system and it happens and they will.
What happened, right? And what's the repeatability of

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that? Just like the scientific method,
you know, we're driven by the data that it produces.
It. Is there a process that can be
repeatable? It may have slightly different
results, unique results for eachperson, however the process
works. Yeah, yeah.
And I guess the the detailed comprehension of what is

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involved biologically, biochemically within the mind to
create the atomic timings of events through the hydrogen
proton tunneling and storage of.That what is it?
The Bose Einstein condensate, right.

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So, and for those of you who don't understand that, which I
didn't be, I'd heard the term before, but it's like, what the
hell does that mean? Right.
So what it is is many atoms fillthe same space at a quantum
level. Yep, and they become one atom, a
super atom, the giant superposition that's.
Really. Also what that's called.

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Well, in a way, the superpositioning produces the
one wavelength, so there's only one wave that's correlated to
the state of of the ground stateof those atoms or becoming one
atom. So it's like supercomputers now,
right? Where they're operating on
multiple quantum dimensions, if you will, same space, just in a

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different place in that space ona subatomic level to where all
of that works in harmony. And hopefully they'll get it
down to where there's, you know,they still have a percentage
error in the calculations. But still, when you can take a
what, a 10,000 year equation andand do it in 90 seconds, that's

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a major EBO leap in opportunity.And, and when you look at the,
the features of you're no longerhaving to use the Pauli
exclusion principle, which meansthat, you know, the electrons

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aren't in different places. They're actually more like
photons of light and they can overlay more like a laser.
So you get coherent states. So the increase coherence in a
quantum system in a Bose Einstein condensate essentially
gets rid of the mass, it gets rid of the charge, it gets rid

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of the concepts of separation and it enables coherent unity.
This sounds strangely like the concept of nothingness.
Precisely. Yeah, you go back to the state
of the beginning where everything is there, but you
can't measure it. Can't see it, can't measure it,

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don't know it's there until poof, we observe it.
And all of a sudden our attention and our awareness
perhaps even produces it. Just because we don't know any
different, we don't know that we.
Can't, Yeah, Yeah. So the potential's there,
always. And what I explored as part of

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being a scientist at a government institute in New
Zealand and was the manuka honeyhaving these ring systems, like
dopamine has a ring system, a hexagon.
Everything's ring. Everything has a ring to it,
just like the truth. Totally.
And, and the hydroxy radical system, which is an energetic

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way that biology uses to break down molecules back into CO2 and
water, that opens the ring. It's like a can opener.
And when it opens the ring, it releases what was inside and the
energy inside based on the Bose Einstein condensate, the
coherent state is released all at once.

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So that's what happened. That's what I experienced and I
got to. What a Big Bang on a small
scale. Oh yeah, A1 atom scale of an
unstable atom being released and.
Potentially, you know, an evidence of the subatomic
fractal of the cosmic. Hole totally.

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And and that's the beautiful thing about the the ring system
is its radius corresponds to theage of the universe.
So it has this beautiful symmetry with.
It in our earlier conversation, you brought out that and I like,
wow, I love how math correlates things and you know, as much as
we can determine in the current state of our understanding of

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the math, right, and what we canmeasure.
And, you know, we're getting into this area where, you know,
you can measure the speed of light.
We know what that is. We know what the speed of sound
is. We haven't really thought about
the speed of thought yet. Now in in my explorations and

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and I don't know if I shared this with you before, but I only
found one reference to it. There may be more and I hope
there are. The one that I found was in kind
of an esoteric work called the Urantia book that was
compilation of for lack of a better channelings from a group

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of celestial beings, for lack ofa better through an individual
in the Midwest in the 20s and 30s.
And it got compiled and put intoa book in 19 and released in
1955. I think.
At any rate, the reference to the speed of thought when I
finally read the book from coverto cover, 2000 pages, somewhat

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rice paper even, so it was that engrossing for me way out there
as far as concepts. It presents speed of thought,
though was said to have been 841trillion miles per second.
I'm going to write that down. Can you convert that into

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kilometers? I tried the calculator wouldn't
handle it. No I I suppose it could be.
Suffice it to say, it's faster than that.
Yeah, like my you. Know.
If we think, if we think about the the features of the ring

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system, the ring system has thisbeautiful relationship, yeah, to
the age of the. Universe sacred geometry, right?
Yeah. Totally.
It's the flower of life, right? This is the flower of life, the
basket in which we put our energy in to grow the unstable.
Drive below Melchizedek then right?
Yeah, he's. An old friend.

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Our spacesuit, the features of that ring in terms of the
radius, if you look at it in nanometers per second, that's
two times the elementary charge.So what we have is a connection
to the vacuum field through the ring.
At every second we're getting a positron and an electron being

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produced. And if you think about fight
flight freeze responses in when we've got 3 layers of timings,
we've got the Tau on the Muon and the electron.
And so the hydroxy radical, the timing of its half life is in
between the Tau on and the Muon.And so when you break the ring

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open and release the energy energetically, you can have an
out of body experience energetically, you can have
functionality that allows you torespond faster than conscious
awareness allows. So it's it's like.
You're operating a vibration rather than choice.
Yeah, well, it's some respect for the energetics.

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The energetics coming from the field goes through the system
every second so that you are aware unconsciously of what you
need to do to avoid danger, right.
So it's a natural part of our biology and how we have.
Developing indigenous tribes, right?
The Maori, right? We're next to you, right?

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They talk about the three brain system, the gut, the heart and
the head. And the gut has so many we know
now through venison that it's got more neurosensors in it than
we ever imagined. And so this is where we're
connected to the energy, the solar plexus, the chakra, right?
This is. And, you know, I'm focusing on

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one atom and the tiny, tiny scale of what's happening inside
the ring. And the fractal beauty of yeah,
the, the gut, the heart, the mind, the reflection and the
mirroring that we have subatomically is able to be seen

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in our biology. And and so it's like the reason.
Would this have to do like with body posture, micro expressions
and things that we aren't aware that we're doing when we're
experienced something that somebody else can say, hey, do
you realize you did that when this happened?
Yeah. And, and if if you think about

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when you have something really, really close together, you got
lots of, lots of energy in such a small environment, it's like a
cascade of events. The energy of that is so much,
but it leads to motion and movement and expression, and it
is subatomic cascades of energy coming through these processes.

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Right. And so I look for ways to
express and, and correlate and share the possibilities, right,
of how that might be experienced.
We talked a little bit earlier about the heart pulse that both
you and I have felt at times andothers probably do too.
The, and it's such a momentary experience that happens when

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there is a release of tension inwhatever relationship is
happening and there's an openingto love, right?
And it's just that it, it's justa pulse.
And you know, it makes you go, wow, what the you know, and yet

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it happens. And by paying attention to that,
not just the the observation of it being willing to step up and
say, oh, did you feel that too? Right now?
That's where the weird people come in.
Well, it's it's not weird, right?
I know, and it's the science that's the.

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Science. Talk about going there.
No. Yeah, true.
It's like, well, it's even when I first saw my wife to be and I
was compelled to say I'm going to marry you, I was like, what
the have. You walked in front of me.
I literally heard, I, I felt my heart flip when she walked in
front of me. I had a dream of hugging her
three weeks before the energy, right?

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And so when she walked in front of me, my body recognized that
energy and said, hey, wait a minute.
You know, pay attention. I know.
And it's like we have to come toterms with the fact that the
future has actually happened already and consciously our

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observable reality at the momentis actually in the past, right?
Because it takes time for the conscious experience to be
knitted together cognitively. There's that speed of.
Thought thing right where it. Happened, Yeah, totally.
And if we go back to that, if wego back to the speed of thought,
the plank energy is 7.4767 E to the plus 30, right?

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And that's a lot of decimal points.
Yeah, it's the E to the plus 30 is really the feature that you
compare that E to the 8 in termsof the speed of light, then E to
the 30, right? It's like, well, 2022, you know,

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E to the 22 energetic times faster than the spinner lighter.
It's just like, oh, so our connection to this cognitive
information superhighway that happens within us.
Yeah, the energy is. That's not in meters per second,

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that's actually happening in Planck links per second
subatomically, but we perceive it cosmologically.
Good old Max. Yeah.
And when we when we see that andthe positioning of the electron
at n = 1 in the hydrogen atom through that one second timing

(36:12):
is at the right place at the right time, right?
So energetically it's going through the Tau on the Muon and
the electron timings and we are then perceiving the electron
part, right? We don't typically get to
perceive the Muon because it's at 2.2 E to the -6 of us end or

(36:34):
the Tau. On at least you know, we
understand and you, you mentioned hydrogen.
This is really key, I think and we spoke about this before.
So hydrogen, you've equated it to being key in this release,
right? Now, when you consider what

(36:54):
you've found and the relationship of, well, the
experience I had, I was in one of those moments, right?
My guide shows up, takes me across the universe, introduces
me to a three sun system. They tell me they're not only my
forefathers, they're the forefathers of my solar system.
And then that's all I get to figure it out, right?

(37:17):
Well, the question that I had that produced all of that was
where does the Trinity come from?
And so I had this answer. Now what do I do with that?
As I'm coming back, I'm thinking, OK, proton, electron,
neutron. I don't take it down into the
tallon and neuron as you do, youknow, could have probably, but

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it wasn't necessary because of the the model that was present.
That's in everything that Trinity those that proton,
electron and neutron model is ineverything except hydrogen and
hydrogen then most powerful gas in the universe powers the sun

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and is the bonding agent for ourDNA Helix.
So considering that sun, whetherit's SUN or SON and it's
direction from the father being the light, the creator in that

(38:24):
case, right, with the three, right, when you break that down
into the experience, it's like, OK, here's a possibility that
that consciousness, this all pervading, permeating awareness
that we have access to specific to us, right?

(38:44):
Goes back to the Vedas where they're saying, you know, we're
all divine threads Incarnate, connected to source and capable
of God consciousness. Well what's that mean?
We're able to have full awareness what we've got asked.
The right question is to get there and then release our
attachment to the answers in order for them to show up.

(39:05):
It's that push pull, you know, and then and.
Yeah, it's a reciprocity, right?Dynamic reciprocity that we
dance. Now, in that extension of those
models and going back into the rings, sacred geometry comes.
That term comes from the inner experience of others who find or

(39:28):
have found those forms on the inner planes as gateways, as
wormholes, as grid systems, as things that are able to be seen
internally, not necessarily externally yet.
Yeah, you. Don't have anything to measure

(39:48):
it. Yeah.
Well, the energy that was storedin there, when the stone is
removed and the energy is released, the outcome of the
energy is what's observed. In a in a way when you see the

(40:09):
hydrogen coming from the amine is dopamine is an example in the
the NH3 plus. So it's an atomic cross system,
3 hydrogens, and the third layerof the hydrogen is the passion
line, the three cross falling three times to the Pi lot

(40:31):
electron ring. So would that create the lines
of force that could appear as a swastika in the way that they
spin? Potentially, yeah, you.
Because what my model shows is rather than seeing the proton as
3 quarks right, the two up and one down, I've gone.

(40:55):
I need to understand the South orbital geometry more as a cross
and the reason for that is I want to be able to understand
the no mass no charge aspect of photons and the electromagnetic
field at right angles of the electric and magnetic.
So what I did with with EinsteinE equals MC squared.

(41:17):
I changed it to C ^2 = E / M andthe that divide E / M as the 90°
angle for electromagnetism interaction.
So you have a geometry that allows you to see photons as a
cross in terms of no mass and nocharge to allow the tunneling to
occur. Which is that spin, right?

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Because the the the ancient symbols of the swastika, right?
There's a right hand. There's a left hand.
Well, what do we have too, right?
Hope he's used both. One major clan, 1 minor clan, we
won't go into the other uses andhowever, it's one of the most
ancient worship symbols on the planet right now.
It seems, and I think I've read this and had, I know I've had

(42:03):
discussions about it before, that One Direction of that spin
expands the other contracts. And so in that relation almost
with in relevance to the micro expression of the universe that
each of us are, our heartbeat isthe same as the expansion and

(42:27):
contraction of the universe, right.
And then I see it on your head. Good, we're on the same page so
far. So then that point of light,
that is where our condensate is.We see that right then is that
point of light, a shell of whichnothingness is encompassed by,

(42:51):
right? From the nothing comes
everything. And you know, through that light
it becomes form, the light musicturned into form and and the
condensation, right? Yeah, yeah.
How is that with each heartbeat,the spin out, the spin in?
Is there a possibility that understanding that and learning

(43:15):
to at least perceive that in one's own being, where might
that take a person, you know, your own experience being
reflective of that, of your great time to pause and, and
let's hold that tangent for a moment And, and off on another
one. We'll bring them both back to

(43:36):
the circle. In your experience, what did you
go through? Because you had a phenomenal
awakening that led to all of these discoveries.
Yeah, yeah. So you know, I, when I got
married, you know, I saw a ball lightning, you know, when I was

(43:58):
living on Adams Terrace a few days before I met my wife and,
well, saw my wife walking down the road.
And when I was compelled to kindof say I'm going to marry you.
And then I actually met. This happened to show up, did
she? Right.
Guy Fawkes Night, right? Guy Fawkes Night 1999 is when we
actually met and and and so it was like, well, OK, I didn't

(44:20):
realize that was the person thatI'd saw walking down the street.
So she Catholic, right? I wasn't brought up Catholic.
I was. I'm scientist, but you know.
Like Howard Bloom, right, He decided he was an atheist right
before his bar mitzvah. I ended up, you know, going

(44:41):
through 10 years really of, you know, holding children in my
arms on Sundays at church to listen to sermons and try to
integrate the the science on youwith.
Yeah, yeah. I want to make sense of this,
right. I want to make sense.
And, you know, learning that science can only really measure

(45:03):
UN, you know, stable stuff, stable atoms.
And that only shows you 5% and the rest is kind of unknown and
it's kind of avoided. It's put in the too hard basket,
especially for biology. You know, as a biologist, do
you? Say too fast to catch yet.
You need a good catcher's murderif you're going to see faster

(45:24):
than light. And that's the challenge, right?
If you're using light as a yardstick to try to measure
things, anything too fast that is unobservable and anything
that's unstable is therefore notpart of the paradigm of
measurement based on materialismor that reductionist thinking.

(45:46):
So it's like you have blinded onand you can only see the stable
stuff. That's that's what science can
see. And you know, the the scientists
thought they saw some stable things with the decay of of a
particle that they assumed was there because they saw the decay
based on the data that they reador data.

(46:09):
Yeah, they haven't actually seenthat.
Yeah, come over on the basis of a theory which.
Well, for me though, you know, inquisitive kid that I am, it
didn't make sense. And especially in the way that
they trained it, because I had alittle more understanding of M

(46:31):
theory and my own interdimensional and
multidimensional experience. I'm thinking, wait a minute, you
know, a subatomic explosion is going to probably tear a hole in
the fabric of the next layer of reality, whatever that is.
And that it's more than likely that that what they saw as a

(46:53):
decay of a particle was actuallythe repair of the RIP.
Now, I asked TA for Lawrence Krauss, which you may be
familiar with. He's a fairly well known
physicist at ASU. And I posed that question to
him. Is it possible?

(47:13):
And I got a deer in the headlights look because, you
know, these guys just hadn't thought in that way.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. My my model with the dopamine
and that the PKA which So what APKA is, is at a particular pH
the the dopamine molecule with its amine.

(47:35):
It can either have NH2 or NH3 plus.
The dopamine is what gives us the woo Hoo feeling.
Happy, happy feeling, yeah, the euphoric experience, right the.
Cortisol makes you go. Yeah, yeah.
The ultimate butt, Tucker, I call it.
The function of the nitrogen delivering the hydrogen into the

(47:58):
ring to store the energy, the Atomic Energy over time to make
atomic clocks In our biology, when you see that the PKA 8.93,
so at that pH at 8.9350% of dopamine molecules are going to
have NH 2 and 50% are going to have NH3 plus.

(48:18):
So it's the halfway point at pH 8.93, and when you use that as a
way of looking at the hydrogen and how it goes on and off, you
can see the timing of that is 1.64 E to the -22 of a second,

(48:38):
which corresponds to the Higgs harv life Higgs.
So it's a proton tunneling system connected to the
formation. Which could also mean that
that's what pierced the veil in,or the dimension that then came
back inadvertently. So maybe this is a discovery yet

(49:00):
to be had. Looking at it from that
perspective, I don't know. Yeah, it's a great.
Question though. Here is here is the observer.
For something to become observable, it actually has to
be within us. So the perception of the Higgs

(49:22):
boson is a revelation of the Higgs mechanism within
ourselves. And the proton tunneling system
is part of our light body converting into atomic form in
mass and charge through asymmetry, through tunneling and

(49:43):
entanglement. So we're taking.
The light body and also, sorry, I, I, I, I'm so excited about
this. It's like, because I'm, I'm
doing my best to be still in andyet there's these all, all these
other, you know, what about this, What about that and, and
correlative kind of things like with the light body, right?

(50:05):
This is one of the things that in meditative practices of
various kinds, they're taught inhow to manifest or not manifest.
Get in touch with the light body.
We have it right. Yeah, well.
Each atom. Is your atom.
Has an electromagnetic field. That is your light body, right?
Each atomic atom has the four forces, so the electromagnetic

(50:29):
force is the vision force, right?
So you are witnessing the electromagnetic field within the
structure of the atom. And you can actually be in that
electromatic field and project it elsewhere.
This is what remote viewing is all.
About. Yeah, yeah.
Totally and out of body experiences, astral travel, all
those kinds of things. And and then now that's taking

(50:53):
it outside. How do we take it inside?
Where do we go? What what happens then?
Let's go back to your experienceand how you found it.
So the going up to receive communion in 2013 with that
unresolved trauma within me and making the choice of releasing
it, giving it back, right? And picking up the cross in

(51:18):
terms of understanding the symbolism in the story of the
passion of Christ and how that relates to the biology of the
pathway of hydrogen proton tunneling into the ring system
and seeing the symmetry between the two stories.
One biochemically within us, part of memory formation, memory

(51:38):
recall, making unstable atoms. So I was working on manuka
honey. The manuka honey has this
hydroxy radical ring opener going up to receive communion.
My mirror neurons fired. So innocence of the child still
within me with the trauma still in me, mirror neurons, fire, put

(52:02):
my body into the geometry of Christ on the cross at the back
of the church, literally stuck in a geometry where I couldn't
move. All of a sudden it's like the
door opens, the ring breaks, andthere in front of me, golden
sphere of light 2 meters in size, like literally a couple of

(52:25):
meters away going OK, I've got my hands going out to receive
communion. I've got an orb of light in my
hands and these two small spheres on either side of this
sphere, this 2m sphere of goldenlight going up to kind of hand
it back, right? So out of body experience, going
back to pain. It's like oh wow.

(52:48):
And then coming back into normalvision and just image after
image after image after image after image it was like.
Nobody else around you aware of what's going?
On that's right, no, no and justpersonal communion.
Oh yeah, yeah, an out of body healing, spiritual healing, to

(53:08):
let go of that trauma that was in me at a subatomic level.
Congratulations. Yes, thank you.
Yeah. That was good to let go, huh?
Oh, yeah. And, and in that environment,
you know, think of the psychology of that as well,
because that's as much part of it as anything.

(53:31):
You gave yourself permission, feeling that that whatever
belief system was present about Jesus and, and all of that,
right? That there was this opportunity
to let go and give it to him, right?
Whether that happens or not, theobjective of it or the objective

(53:55):
of it was to simply let go of itfor yourself.
Yeah, yeah, totally, totally. Hand it back and we don't need
to carry it anymore. I had it, had it for long
enough. Yeah.
You opened your own ring and just let it go.
You didn't get anything back. It was just like, oh, I don't
know. That that part of my life's

(54:15):
over. I want the new mate.
Sure. And you were ready and it came
and, and So what followed? I mean, as you did your proton
tunneling into this experience, what did you find?
Well, I was like, as a scientist, I wanted to
understand what the hell was that?

(54:37):
Sure, obviously, yeah, It's likethere's an experience.
It's like, OK, what just happened?
How can I frame this so that I can understand it?
Yeah, yeah. And and so it's been 12 years of
my life putting that in context as a scientist who, you know,
I've been doing regenerative medicine, making technologies to

(55:00):
help heal people using you've been in.
The throat. You've been in the trench of
them, brother. Oh, totally.
Totally. And here I've just received a
spiritual healing using manuka honey as a ring opener and not
realizing exactly what happened.Right.
I didn't know that. So here I here I am having, you

(55:24):
know, just received 8 million electron volts of energy and 23
milliseconds from the decay of this atom within me that I'd
grown for 30 years. So that's that's taking
something infinite, making it pretty finite, right?
And it's like, OK, what happened, when it happened,
where it happened, why it happened, how it happened, you

(55:44):
know, the the normal things thatone wants to understand as a
scientist. It can because we're told to
seek the mysteries, right? That somewhere there is an
answer. We may not have the thinking
that can comprehend it yet. Yeah, yeah.
And and so on that quest on thatjourney of revelation and, and

(56:06):
trying to put things back into some order because because of
the amount of energy, all of a sudden it's like 3 months with
only sleeping a couple of hours a night and I'm energized at
they can find the the answer, right.
And, and so learning about the unstable atom side of things in

(56:29):
biology and biology's taught from the stable atom measurement
side of things. So they completely they ignore
and avoid the atomic instabilityof memory formation, memory
recall in that isotope side. And so here are.
Contamination or reality, right?Yeah, yeah.

(56:54):
Science taught from that stable side is very material based.
That's the soup of chemicals in a cell.
And yet it used to be philosophy, you know, up until
1400, when it's like, no, no, we're not going to include
spirituality in it anymore. It's just material science.

(57:15):
Because we don't. Want that's lost the coherence
that's lost the the unity right and.
It was never meant to be separate.
No, no, it is all meant to be part of a holistic picture.
So if you're looking for. One, I mean, come on, we're
just. And of course, this wasn't

(57:37):
understood or used widely it up until recently when we began
comprehending, yeah, we're all interconnected that even.
And science, quantum science especially, has allowed us to
see that in movies like The Secret.
And what the Bleep, I think goesinto it even further about the

(57:57):
interconnectivity that's available and how our thoughts
and the energy we carry actuallycreate the reality we
experience. Totally, totally.
And. Oh man, that puts a lot of
weight on our shoulders for accountability and
responsibility to self, now doesn't it?
Yep. Better have some self love

(58:19):
there. Yeah, yeah.
And, you know, being kind to oneself, you know, it's a it's a
difficult situation when so muchof the information that we're
taught as a scientist is in thisconcept of an external physical

(58:40):
reality, and yet the connectivity of an internal
vision of light within. And I needed to have that
healing in order to perceive what the orientation of the
human retina pointing inward. And we see our dreams at night

(59:00):
with their eyes closed, right? So, so the understanding of what
I'm actually looking in what there's this time reversal.
And do we need to dream in orderto see with our eyes closed?
Well, we make our dreams come true during the daytime, when
we're perceiving our dreams and making them real, right when we

(59:21):
break the ring and release the energy externally and internally
in balance. I mean my business be the dream
for that very reason. I know dreams can become real
and that we can coagulate possibilities, but I coagulate.
I say that to some people are like you're talking about blood.
Well, what's coagulation? It's, it's condensing into
something solid, right, So that we can rely on it?

(59:46):
Yeah. And learning, I didn't, I
couldn't learn the experience through what I knew, so I had to
kind of let that go. So let go of the idea of making
measurements to be able to provesomething and that way.
It's tough when I'll bet. It's like, oh, measurement only

(01:00:08):
gives you the past to perceive the future.
You left to let go of measurement and order the then
see balance returned and what's operating through balance.
And, and so that was kind of restoring the positron into
atomic theory, making the proton, electron and positron

(01:00:31):
peers and, and C ^2 in terms of light in its electromagnetic
field. It allowed me to then start to
learn the wavelength of the passion line, learn the
functionality that that has in tunneling into the ring.
See the timings of time reversalin the relationship between the

(01:00:54):
ring and the age of the universe.
And I was like, ah, so that's, that's my atomic timer.
What atom did I witness to breakthe ring?
And so it was 1/2 NUM 15672. And it's like, oh, half NUM last
night, midpoint of my life. Oh, OK, so so my kind of

(01:01:16):
experience was connected to a transition right at a point in
the middle of my life. And and you know, I was born in
1972. Eighteenth of the 4th 18 * 472
Oh OK, Mum was 36 when she took your life and that's half a 72
and a double of 18. So I started seeing numbers and

(01:01:37):
their. Relationship.
There were so many patterns thatyou just brought.
Together. Very indiscriminately, but at
the same time you saw them and there was some relevance of the
connectedness of them that was perfect for you.
Yeah, Yeah, precisely. It made sense that, oh, that was
that half Nematom. Oh, so there are 84 neutrons in

(01:02:00):
the half Nematom and then and, and seeing the decay of 23
milliseconds. My wife's a 23 and I'm a 32.
So we're both fives and togetherwe're one, right.
So I saw all these numbers and Ithought, so if that's 84 and and
72 and the difference between that's 12 and that's an alpha

(01:02:22):
particle emission. And the alpha particle emission
then gives annihilation of positron and electron and proton
and neutron meta antimatter symmetry.
And that was the energy that putme out of my body that then
allowed me to perceive one over the 23 milliseconds of 43 years

(01:02:43):
up to the 2056. And in 2056, I'll be 84.
So it showed me this timings of events in my life and when I'm
going to be where and the imagery of the future.
And it was like, oh, so I'm not crazy.
It's like the experience best. Debatable to some, I'm sure.

(01:03:05):
Totally, totally it. Don't matter, right?
As long as you get it. You.
Can't think it's crazy, but whatelse?
Matters, right? Yeah.
I've kind of solved the puzzle, right?
I've solved my puzzle of what I came with and what I was here to
do. And were you taking it?
Now, how, Speaking of where you're taking it, how does this

(01:03:26):
become relevant for average Joe or Jane, right?
How do we incorporate this and the for lack of better
astronomical numbers? Not that astronomy has anything
to do with it all. You know, the astrology
certainly does, and maybe astronomy too, because we're All

(01:03:50):
Stars and we're all Stardust. You know, this is one thing that
it's just really odd. We don't realize just how
connected to the Earth we are because we're made of it.
Ah, totally, totally. And and what this shows is that
the Starlight within us in that electromagnetic field within

(01:04:12):
each atom of our body is createdthrough the proton tunnelling
system. So I found the process of being
able to create atoms is happening within our biology.
And that's why, you know, if youthink of a an enzyme as an
example, a matrix Matella protease that has a zinc atom at
the active site. It's not coming from the food

(01:04:35):
that we eat. It's actually been grown within
the atom based on its environment to make the zinc at
the right place at the right time for the functionality.
So we've really got biology based on materialism really
wrong, and we can only. Doctor Laszlo, he and I had a

(01:04:56):
discussion, you know, and I thought I was being smart
saying, you know, we got quantumphysics says we got 99% space
and 1% material. And he says I would say we're
100% energy and stop me in my tracks because it was true,

(01:05:16):
right? And quantum realizations are
that all things are vibration. It's the matter, the frequency
as to how far it condenses. And the process of condensation
through implosion in the aromatic ring breaking is part
of rolling what you need where you need it, and it's a space

(01:05:38):
and time geometry of the ring system correlated to the radius
being the age of the universe. Well, on a practical level too,
it means don't worry, be happy, right?
It's like the whole thing not don't worry about the sparrows,
they're getting fed, right? So it's available just the same

(01:06:00):
for you as it is for them. We just don't see it that way.
And because of our selfish nature rather than selfless
nature, we go to war and we haveconflicts and we want resources
and stuff and acquisition. We're like a bunch of herengue,

(01:06:21):
right? And how do we get out of that?
Yeah, I think we come to terms with the fact that we are
growing energetic systems that are transcending so that the
energy that you have within in asubatomic energy, which is

(01:06:45):
powerful means that you do not need and you have everything you
need already. That you're right.
It's like actually I can draw, Idon't.
Mean to go out and become a breatharian?
Well, no, I'm not saying, I'm not saying that people need to
do that. Like, what have I done?
What have I done as a scientist is to create this product now

(01:07:06):
from manuka honey, the royal Jelly proteins that I'm
isolating, and I'm growing Atomic Energy for people in the
ring so they can apply it topically into the biology in
order to give them healing and regeneration, turn them pain off
and supporting vitality. So in a way, you can't go from.

(01:07:26):
Yeah, pain is just constriction of flow of energy.
Totally, totally. And when you break the rings
open and you let the flow super flow, right.
Yeah, yeah. And that the process can happen
very quickly when you use something topically that
contains the vibrational energies and.

(01:07:49):
Well, skin's an organ, right? It's.
Totally and. It's an organ of the body, and
it absorbs things in nanoseconds.
Totally, totally. And that's a beautiful way of
delivering and avoiding first pass metabolism.
That's a beautiful way of restoring connection cognition
to light and the environment. So, you know, we are, you know,

(01:08:13):
I think fortunate to be able to learn how our biology is working
at A, at a subatomic quantum level.
Now, did colloidal silver have some basis in this as well?

(01:08:34):
Is it? I know that the electrolysis of
the silver rods produces colloids in the suspension, and
that those colloids then act as conduits for the body's own
electromagnetic energy and puts it wherever it needs to.
And whether it's topical or internal, that it was discovered

(01:08:56):
that this is a great way to minimize disease, to promote
healing. I know for me, we had a nasty
flu go through the the teaching or teacher ranks at the high
school I was teaching at in the 90s.
And most of the teachers were out two to three weeks with it.

(01:09:16):
It was nasty. And I had a friend in my head
actually wrote a book on colloidal silver on my computer.
And so I learned a lot about this.
And so when I first started getting the symptoms, I thought,
OK, I'm going to try this. So I went home and drank I think
4 6 oz I'm sorry, 3/6 ounce glasses that night or that

(01:09:39):
across the evening and did the same thing the next day.
So Wednesday I got the symptoms,Thursday, Friday, Saturday and
Sunday I did the colonial silverregimen and Monday I was back at
school. Wow.
Yeah, yeah. Look, we've got so much to learn
in terms of there's this processwhich is a high energy system

(01:10:06):
that creates quantum coherence. So it's like the way of it's not
individual molecules, it's not individual atoms.
There's an entanglement process that unites biological systems
into a harmonious organization and does.
That have a sound to it. You know the Hindus talk about

(01:10:27):
the Shabda. Whether you can perceive the
sound is, you know, that's a part of the electromagnetic
spectrum. Well, in quiet moments, I think
we all, if we really pay attention to the quiet and

(01:10:48):
hearing what's really there and,and sometimes you got to go
really deep to do that, right, because you got to wipe out all
the other extraneous noise. It's there, yeah.
But you know, you think of how many cells undergo apoptosis,
about 50 million or so cells undergo was 50 billion cells

(01:11:10):
undergo apoptosis every day pre programmed.
Cell And every seven years you've got a new body.
Totally, totally. And and so that ring opening the
hydroxy radical system is operating an apoptosis to make
CO2 and water from those old cells.
So you're getting rid of the damaged part and replacing it

(01:11:32):
through the energetics to. Grow the new Apoptosis is kind
of like a digestion process. Yeah, yeah.
A cellular, internal cellular automatic digestion process to
break the cells down into CO2 and water in order to create the
quantum coherent communication system in our biology.

(01:11:53):
So we have this natural system for healing and regeneration.
And if you look at even undergoing a cell division,
right, one cell turning into twodaughter cells, that's there's a
symmetry and a replication at anatomic level where the the two

(01:12:14):
up quarks become a down quark and the two down quarks because
it's an antimatter side of things you.
Got me standing on my head already.
Decay to become the two up quarks again.
So we have this division processconnected to atomic theory in
the quark system to make antimatter.

(01:12:37):
Antimatter has a short half life, which then decays into
matter. So we've got this divisional
kind of process, and that's madefrom the apoptosis system
through proton tunneling becauseit stimulates the tunneling
system. So our body is regenerating
through that process. And if that wasn't there and
wasn't functioning properly, we would get old very quickly,

(01:13:00):
right? So the healing and regeneration
within our body is subatomic thin creation of antimatter to
create the energy for healing and regeneration.
So what I think I hear you saying is that you found a door
to longevity in some way that then would indicate that, yeah,

(01:13:25):
we can understand this mystery and we are designed to be long
living. I mean, we're kind of out loud.
Bayard Spaulding took a bunch ofscientists to Southeast Asia in
the 20s looking for monks that were supposedly 6800 years old
old and found them. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

(01:13:47):
Well, the way the way I look at it, you know, you think of an
electron being made from the vacuum of space through this
aromatic ring system. The ring is the age of the
universe, so theoretically our biology is already 13.8 billion
years old, right? So at that level, and and and

(01:14:08):
so. That's really hard to fathom it
for most people. Wow.
I just got my mind and my whole being blown right.
And yet, why is it so difficult to open our minds and at least

(01:14:29):
the inquisitive curious of possibility and, you know,
instead of Nope, that's not possible.
Don't believe it. I think that's not by
experience, right? It's very confronting.
But what what it's kind of showing is our perception of
time is mediated through the aromatic ring.

(01:14:51):
So scientifically we are having to use the filter of the ring to
make it consciously observable. So we really don't have an
understanding of age of the universe.
Or time that you know, Mikhaili,Mikhaili wrote this wonderful
book called Flow the psychology of optimal experience, right?

(01:15:14):
So what I hear you saying is what he's trying to describe.
He's the example of jazz musicians, right?
And being a drummer, I get that in a jam, right, where you're
just you, you've gone in, you lose your ego, you lose
yourself. You, you become the instrument
and there's a conversation and you lose time since you're just

(01:15:41):
there. Yeah, yeah.
And you're entering into the earlier temporal domain of the
Muon and the tauon to operate there.
Now if we could just model that.Oh yeah, intuitively knowing.
And selling it to drive through.Look, I I'm at the stage now

(01:16:05):
that maybe in, in a month I'm going to have product being
distributed into the USA. As I'd love to have.
Someone and it's just like when somebody takes the product and
all of a sudden they feel pain free and, and you look at it and
you know on their face and you just go.

(01:16:27):
What? They can't, they can't
understand the temporal side of things.
And you, you know, it's really, really hard to kind of go, we've
got to let go of measurement to see that.
Or pain. I had a dear friend that was hip
replacement. Afterwards she goes, my God, I

(01:16:50):
didn't realize how much pain I was in.
Yeah, and you know as a child, right being on on the sofa
watching Days of our Lives and and and Santa Barbara as the
soap operas every day because I was in pain my hips and knees.
And now having a technology fromyou know that I make from manuka

(01:17:11):
honey that's got atomic clock energy for healing and
regeneration to. We've known royal Jelly had
really good, you know, nutritional value for a long
time. But what you've done is just
say, OK, now where does that really come from?
And how much can I not necessarily refine it, but pull

(01:17:31):
it out? Yeah, well, removing it from
the. Usable form.
Yeah, and, and in a way it's almost like Joseph and the
Technicolor Dreamcoat because ofthe cloaking and the
methylglyoxal reacts with the amino acids on the royal Jelly
proteins and then the phenolic compounds, the antioxidants bind

(01:17:54):
onto the protein. So there's up to 38 sites per
protein where this ring system is put.
And then the hydrogen being grown in the ring to give the
atomic clock energy for the regeneration.
Each one has a different frequency.
So it's like this kind of cloaked device.
So you can't really see it, you can't measure it.

(01:18:15):
Inside an aromatic ring. You shine laser light and it
gives emission Spectra and it shows you these kind of dynamic
waves of quantum energy and it and it's just like, OK, it's a
hands free system that reads andinterprets bioenergetics and
then give energy to the body forregeneration.
And that's just like, well, that's what biology does

(01:18:36):
naturally. And it's a natural way of
helping people to restore their health and well-being.
So it's just like, wow. And you got to realize, too,
that, you know, most of us operate from the shoulders up.
We pay no attention to what's going on in the body except when
it hurts. Yeah, yeah.
And and the challenge to kind ofbring forward something that is

(01:19:00):
very revealing in terms of here,space and time united in an
unstable atom system housed in aring.
That's the atomic regenerative system.
It is the longevity energy system and we grow our energy
through proton tunneling and that's connected to our memory

(01:19:25):
formation and our memory. It's going to say proton
tunneling. I think of a wormhole, right?
But yeah, what it is that is essentially.
Yeah, now you explain it really well with the math and the
science about it, a lot of whichI get as I've been able to
relate to it in more common terms right now.

(01:19:46):
What's fascinating to me though,is there's another quantum
theory theory of everything thatNephew and close came up with.
You may be familiar the triadic dimensional distinction.
Vortical paradigm is what they call I have.
Not come across that but I wouldlove to have.
Yeah, look that up. So TDDVP for short.

(01:20:11):
What they do, they posit that consciousness, space and time
are tethered across 9 dimensions.
So it kind of says the same thing that you're saying.
And I had a direct experience called multiplane awareness
technique in the 1989 when I hadit.

(01:20:35):
The process was developed in 1950s by William Swaggart.
That process that I went throughwith the light body we were
talking about earlier took the light body through 9 planes of
consciousness and integrated my body on each one of those
planes. Now with nephew and closes

(01:20:56):
model, each one of those dimensions, I think it's
synonymous, right, are also tethered.
So the reality is that's our bandwidth as humans, that we can
experience this next level of eternality and and we can't go
above that until we do. Yeah, the the experience that I

(01:21:20):
had, you know I'm because I've gone well one over that half
life timing gave me the number of years and why do I you're.
Saying your half life. Yeah, the Half life, each
unstable atom has a half life, right?
And the 23 milliseconds, the waythe ring works, right?

(01:21:41):
You can look at it in different ways.
You can look at it based on the radius and the age of the
universe in meters per year, andthat gives you a 1 E to the -20.
Or you can look at it as nanometers per year and it's a 1
E to the -11 or nanometers per second and it's 3.17 E to the
-19 columns, which is the 2 times elementary charge.

(01:22:05):
So when you take one over the seconds and half life, looking
at the number of years that correlated with this half an
atom that I witnessed the decay of 43 years taking me up to the
2056 and doing kind of the calculations for that.
So that interestingly, you know,I was 11 when when mum died and

(01:22:28):
11 hydrogen is this correlated scientific expression of what
hydrogen looks like in a proton electron?
Maybe that's why 11's a master #2.
Yeah, yeah. And then we have the Helium
HE42, you know, Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.
And the two it's us, right? Yeah, the features of I was 41

(01:22:53):
when I had my experience in 2013.
So there was this kind of one inthree feature in 2013, right.
And after 30 years from me, 11, now 41 and seeing 43 years of
information which is on the other side of 42.

(01:23:14):
So in a way it was like I got togo, oh, so helium, OK, helium
have a Bose Einstein condensate that he bit kind of model that
I've developed made sense to me because of the spiritual healing
through Christ on the cross at church.
And and then it's like, oh, OK, I'll look at.
So I'm born on 18th to the 4th and you know, you kind of go

(01:23:37):
well in 20, 29 and 2055 and then2060 that's Easter Monday.
So it was like, oh, OK, I had this relationship through Christ
and spiritual healing. It takes me an 11 year period in
that part of my life. And and when I looked at.
That you would make a numerologist go crazy.

(01:24:00):
It's like 84, 8:00 and 4:00 as as beryllium BE right and that
that splits into two heliums andit's like, man, this is how I
got back. Right, well, here's again.
Here's all these patterns a cognitive scientist in you right
saw these patterns and put them together in in the way it was

(01:24:23):
designed for you to experience, reflect on and then offer some
wisdom and maybe even some longevity from it too.
Speaking of longevity, we we've wow, fascinating Kieran and

(01:24:43):
wonderful. You know, words are are
difficult to express the depth of where we just went and the
sense, hopefully that we made ofit for us and for our audience,
right, because we're picking up stuff from each other and
pondering things and adding pieces that that we can add that

(01:25:03):
make the help add to the whole. So we have a larger sphere of
understanding, which I that's really the essence of, of why
I'm doing this. So we can have that on all kinds
of different levels. And fortunately, I'm able to do
that with that, that I've LED, Icould talk to guys like you and,
and, you know, and guys to put machines together as well.

(01:25:25):
So fascinating and thank you so much.
What in a party as a parting gift, what can you or what might
you offer to our audience of howto think about these things in a
simpler way and apply it to their lives in a way that would

(01:25:49):
ultimately benefit them? Yeah, I, I would say it's, it's
important to look at your life and your journey in the timings
of events because the timings ofevents give the, the unconscious

(01:26:09):
part of you a doorway that you can, you can then see what's
what that underlying decision processes are mediated through,
right. So you kind of get to be more
self aware and then you can be more resilient and more

(01:26:32):
cognizant of the decisions you're making and why.
And then you can have a choice, right, To get to the point of
being able to make a choice and not being triggered by events
and being more holistic in your interpretation of yourself.

(01:26:55):
So it becomes, yeah, becoming more responsible.
You know, for me it was. You're a whole being.
You're not parts, right? We see.
Yeah, seeing holistic picture, seeing synergy picture.
Yeah. And when you are then able to
draw through from that energetictemporal side of your being and

(01:27:17):
to allowing you to be empowered from that, it's part of your
knowledge base, part of your energetic experience and imprint
that you have and that that's what you're sharing with the
world, right. That is who your identity is
through your being and. Share the best view.

(01:27:39):
Yeah, definitely share the best beast of yourself with the world
to make the world a beautiful place.
Yeah. Cool here and thanks again so
much. This has been a wonderful
conversation and there may be more coming.
Now I'll part ways and say thankyou so much again.

(01:28:05):
God, please. Namaste and in La Ketch, and
thanks for sticking with us for this episode of One World in a
New World. I know you've had a blast.
I've had too. And I've hopefully your mind
hasn't been stretched as much asmine has and it's come back into
better order as a result. So one thing I want to remind
you, visit planetarycitizens.net.

(01:28:26):
You'll get a free download of planetary citizens awakening the
heart of humanity. And that's exactly what we're
doing here. Thanks again so much for Kieran
and myself. I'll see you next time.

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