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September 14, 2025 76 mins

Ep 211 - One World in a New World with Dr. Suzanne Harper


❓ How can the energy of your home affect your well-being and life choices?


❓ What role does intuition play in navigating our physical and metaphysical worlds?


A home for your soul begins with energy. In this fascinating and deeply heartfelt episode, we welcome Dr. Suzanne Harper—a gifted Feng Shui consultant, medium, and energetic space healer whose life’s work is to harmonize homes and human experiences.


From clairaudient childhood awakenings to navigating vibrational spaces in a post-COVID world, Suzanne’s journey is a powerful testament to intuition, discipline, and multidimensional awareness. Join Zen Benefiel as he guides this apocalyptic chat into unseen realms, where healing becomes a conversation between spirit and structure.


✨ Whether you're seeking clarity, alignment, or simply curious about how your environment reflects your inner world, this conversation opens doors. You’ll walk away inspired to harmonize your living space, embrace your gifts, and reclaim your sacred connection with the world around you.


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(00:00):
Namaste and in La Ketch and welcome to this episode of One
World in a New World. I'm your host, Zen Benefiel.
And as always, please like, subscribe, share profusely
because it helps us all out. Thanks so much in advance.
And also, if you would like to visit planetarycitizens.net, It

(00:21):
is a interesting experiment in how to learn to get along so
that we can operate on this planet as a united family.
And to that end, you'll be able to download my free book there.
And hopefully there we go. It's called Planetary Citizens
Awakening the Heart of Humanity,and it's a free download, so I'd

(00:42):
appreciate it if you can do thattoo.
Now, this week's guest is DoctorSuzanne Harper.
She is a Feng Shui consultant inher she helps people relocate
and quickly and also sets up thesituations and the arrangements
energetically for that to happen.

(01:05):
She's an interesting woman. You're going to find her
immensely insightful and this apocalyptic chat may be one of
your favourites. So stay tuned, we'll be right
back. Well, Suzanne, I am so glad

(02:02):
we've had this opportunity to get together and and converse
about what goes on inside and outside.
As you know, our apocalyptic chats are about bridging in and
outer worlds. We have both and we're often
bereft and talking about the inner because we think we'll
appear crazy or some such thing to others.

(02:24):
And for those who don't have a direct experience of that, that
may be so. So with that, I know that you've
had to have a a rich background because you are highly
sensitive. How did you first become aware
of this interconnectedness in a world bigger than what many

(02:47):
perceive? Thank you for asking Zen, and
thank you for having me on this.Such a pleasure.
Thank you. For me it was a case of being
born with abilities that I had to find out how to deal with.
I'm rhesus AB rhesus negative blood group which is quite rare

(03:12):
and it's it means that I'm hardwired.
What I didn't realise until later on when I trained as a
medium that it is mediums blood group.
So I come from a family where this this blood group is found a
lot in the Basque region of Spain.
It's one of the highest frequencies.
And my mother's ancestry is Basque and she basically had the

(03:35):
same blood group. She was clairaudient.
I'm Clair sentient. I have flashes of clairvoyance
and I found as a child my mothercertainly wouldn't have said
that she was clairaudient at all.
And fair enough, my father was the son of A. 7 For our

(03:57):
audience, what that means is youhear things and others don't.
Yes. And this is this is something
people often very quiet about because they're worried when
people talk about hearing voicesthat you'll be labeled as crazy.
Right. Yeah, the white coats come.
Yes. So this is, this is something a

(04:17):
lot of people keep, you know, kind of very quiet.
You do get still the still silent voice which does guide
you. I was always aware of other
energies around me as a child growing up and it wasn't until I
had a rather frightening experience aged 9 that I

(04:39):
realised I need to need it. To find out more about all of
this world and to start to read about it and to to understand
it. Because I think knowledge is
power, and if you're afraid of something, you have to find out,
right? Fear is the door, right?
Fear. Fear.
Fear is the door. I mean, what basically happened

(05:02):
with me was we were living in London at the time and our house
was built over a plague pit. Now there was a plague in London
after the Great Fire of London. And you know, I found out
afterwards our house was literally built over one of the
burial places. So my experience probably wasn't

(05:23):
too surprising, but I felt the weight of something literally on
my chest and I just. Right for that kind of because
that's a, if you want to see it as a vibrational, you know,
because things remain right, whatever happens in an area,
that vibration is going to continue to be there no matter
what. And being super sensitive to it,

(05:44):
man, that must have been excruciating.
It was, it was kind of weird. So I was very motivated to find
out more about what was going on.
And the best, the best information I got was when, and
this was something I didn't actually seek out.

(06:05):
A boyfriend of mine was going toa teaching medium and she was
training both of us. And I was very, very reassured
to find when I said she was a direct voice medium, so she was
literally taken over, as it were.
Right. We called those trans Chandlers

(06:25):
over here I think, or something like full body trans Chandlers.
OK, so the thing that was great about her was that she was very,
very clear that we have control as human beings, you know, she
said. I do not allow my guides to
throw me around the room. I set the parameters before the

(06:49):
session. I will not give people
information about death, you know, she said.
There are things I won't do and I'm very clear.
I set the boundaries up. And an interesting thing is
those boundaries are respected. They are.
They are. And the other thing that I was
very comforted to find was that there are rules on the other

(07:12):
side, just like there are rules here.
There are the psychic police on the other side.
You can actually call them. If you actually are really
scared and you're around something that is frightening
you and you can't explain, you can certainly call on one of the
masters, but you can certainly visualize a cobalt Blue Cross on

(07:35):
a white background and that is literally calling the psychic
police. Wow, now I I'm familiar with
another method in the the Violetplane.
Yes. And yeah, I learned about that
in my early 30s, I think. But those are things that you
can visualize basically is methods of protection, Yes.

(07:56):
If you feel like you need it, yes.
If. You.
Is it also to your understandingthat when you are able to be in
that place of complete fearlessness that there is no
need for for protection because you can't be accosted when

(08:19):
you're in that space that vibrationally just can't happen.
Is that true? No, because if you are a light
worker, by virtue of who you are, you will unfortunately
attract the dark. You are a target.
However, having said that, if you are very clear about what
you're dealing with and you knowwhat you can do, I mean, for

(08:40):
example, I do clearings. I don't do them.
I work with an angelic team who does them and I ask for their
help. I've been in situations where I
have been confronted with pure evil.
The person in front of me has been taken over and I basically,
I wasn't actually frightened because I knew there was nothing
I could do. So I just, this is beyond me.

(09:03):
Come on, give me a hand here. And the Master I called on was
Jesus, and suddenly it vanished.But you could say, you could say
it was frightening, but I actually didn't have time to be
frightened. And I recognized it for what it
was. Sure.

(09:24):
And you shifted your perspectiveand and which changed your
vibratory level. Yeah, I went.
You know this is not for me to deal with.
Yeah, as a kid when, when you were learning all of this and,
and I'm guessing that, you know,it began in, you know, before

(09:45):
you were 10 and it continued through your teenage years as
you were developing this and, and your understanding of it.
What was that like? What kind of help did you get,
if any, and how did you learn tonavigate through that?
Because I, you know, most of ourlistening audience is between 24

(10:05):
and 44 right now. So I'm sure that they're having
some experiences that they are wondering how to navigate.
I, I think the thing that was useful for me was that although
my parents never talked about these things, knowledge was
prized in the household I grew up in.

(10:26):
I was very, very fortunate in that respect.
And there were always a lot of books around and if there was
something I wanted to read or tofind, then it was very
accessible. And in a lot of my teenage years
I was in London. And there's the Theosophical
Society there, which has the most amazing library.

(10:51):
There are all sorts of librariesof psychic groups where they've
got information. Some of it's a lot of it's book
learning, but that was what really was accessible to me.
So I started reading. And when you realise that other
people have experienced these things, you're not, you're not

(11:11):
on your own. It's completely different.
It, you know, you go, OK, this is, this is not unusual, but I
didn't have other people I couldtalk to about this.
So in those years my informationcame from books.
It wasn't until later on that I started connecting with other

(11:32):
people who were into all of these things.
I had similar experience and andmine was a little less
fortunate. I couldn't keep my mouth shut.
I tried talking to people and, and ended up in an institution
at 19 and diagnosed through the DSM 4 of the time, right, which
is their way, the, the clinicianway of doing things.

(11:55):
And I just wanted to have somebody to talk to so I can
work my own stuff out. Well, they don't listen from
that place. They listen from the place of,
oh, there's something wrong withyou and we're going to treat
you. Unfortunately, I had a
psychiatrist prior to that, a year before, just after the
experience I had, and he acknowledged that I'd had a
spiritual awakening and advised that I keep my mouth shut

(12:17):
because most people don't go through it till the mid 40s if
they ever do. And I was 18 at the time.
So, you know, I can totally relate to.
And books really saved me. And the betas, for instance,
really made clear to me, corroborated my experience to
the point where I was, OK, this is real.
Even though others may not understand it or have a direct

(12:39):
experience of it to understand it, at least I know it's real.
And that was a huge difference. Yes, and and it, it enables you
to, to sort of fit in. I mean, fortunately, I mean, I,
I feel I'm kind of in, if you like, you probably feel the same

(13:01):
thing. I'm living in two worlds because
there are some people I can talkto about.
In the hour, right? Well, they have spiritual
experiences and I can share things with them and others for
whom this is. It's like a no go area.
It's totally outside anything that.
Oh yeah, and they just think it's balderdash, right?

(13:23):
Yeah, yeah. So I just go, OK, well I won't
talk about it in in that particular setting.
And therein is the discernment, right?
And, and as kids growing up, even through mid 20s, even early
30s, we don't know how to filter.

(13:44):
Yeah. And, and I think sometimes it's
important that you know that youdo it's.
A lot of grief, I'll say that. Yeah, it, it, it, it does, you
know, so I, I had to learn that.I learned that very, very early
on. I just, you know, I found out, I

(14:05):
was quite surprised to find out later on in my life that my
brother had had, I think he had,he had some childhood illness.
I think it might have been chicken pox or something.
He had a raging fever, and subsequently, he's always been
interested in history. And he was seeing battlefields
playing, playing out on the floor.

(14:26):
When he looked down, he saw these whole sort of battles
taking place, you know, And obviously it was there was some
shift in the. Yeah.
He found the liminal space, I think is what that's called,
right? Where, you know, it was almost
in the hypnagogic state with thehigh fever and whatever critical

(14:49):
memory he needed to experience as a child to remember perhaps.
You know, I, I look at these things and I think, OK, so I
always ask a question. So why did this happen, right?
What was this about? What did it mean?
What? What's in it for understanding
whether it's for myself, others or a collective, right?
There's always something of value there.

(15:12):
I think the thing The thing is that I find interesting is that
my brother's situation was interesting in that he chose to
go into the Army and it was a choice.
It wasn't anything that was forced on him.
It was a choice. He's always been interested in
history and he's actually very knowledgeable and knowledgeable

(15:35):
about, probably knowledgeable about battles, which my father
also was. My father was in the Navy.
He was very interested in military history, so there was
that going on somewhere. Conversely, you know theirs was
choice, right? That they could make.
You're hard wired and you can still make choices to ignore it.

(15:56):
You're still hard wired. If you're hard wired, it's very
difficult to ignore because you will be, you will be confronted
with it and there isn't a lot that you can, you know.
No. You can.
How did you, I, I love the term acquiesce, right?

(16:16):
That's how I got comfortable with some of the things that
I've had to go through because it, you can't resist them.
You can, but it's just going to continue.
So the optimal choice then wouldbe to acquiesce to flow, which
is stepping into whatever your design is and trying to figure

(16:37):
that out to a better to understand it more and be
available to it. I've, I've found again, I
suppose because of what I was into when I was, I think I was
about how old was I at the time,It might have been, I was about

(16:58):
20, maybe a little bit more. I went to a medium and, you
know, asked the question. I wasn't sure about what I
wanted to study or what I wantedto go into.
And I was told between whether Iwanted to follow a musical root,
become a singer or whether I would go into some form of

(17:20):
medicine. I was thinking about osteopathy
and acupuncture at the time. And it was like the two choices
were like this. And I really didn't, I really
didn't know where I was going togo.
So I thought, well, you know, most people would go to careers
counselling and I did do that. But I that didn't leave me any

(17:40):
the wiser. So I went to a medium and what
the medium said was interesting.The medium said this lifetime is
like she said, think of it as two books, volume 1 and volume
to. You're in volume to, you've been
a healer before. This is your second lifetime

(18:03):
doing this. This is what you're meant to do.
And as soon as I made that decision, everything else went
went smoothly because. From that point you went into
the naturopathy, osteopathy and acupuncture and then and you
became not just an emotional healer but a physical one as

(18:26):
well. Yeah.
So it was guided and I didn't actually, I didn't actually
particularly choose to do acupuncture.
I mean, this was this was the other thing that was I was
sitting next to in my class, oneof the guys there kept saying to
me, he goes, they're giving scholarships for acupuncture,

(18:46):
you should apply. So I hear it once when you've
been at college four years, whatyou want to do is close the
books, get out and do stuff right?
What you want to do is go out there and be.
I didn't do that. I went through an MBA and then
got the secondary teaching cert.But I, I just went, you know,
I've had enough of books. I think I kind of want to do the

(19:09):
practice. And he kept on at me.
He'd go, they're they're offering scholarships.
You should go, you should go. I thought, all right, I'll put
on a suit. I'll go and do interview
practice, right. So I did get at least as far as
the interview. So I turned up, I looked at the
other candidates in the room andI thought, there is no way on
God's earth I'm getting this. So I wasn't well, whatever.

(19:34):
And I got it. And the thing that was
interesting about this was I gotpregnant halfway through the
course. And my thinking was if I stop
this course now, they will nevergive the scholarship to another
married woman. I absolutely must finish this.
This is absolutely important that it happens.

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So I wound up doing acupuncture and that took me off on a whole
other journey into. I suppose it's Chinese
philosophy. Taoism.
I I did Ki aikido for years. Sure.
Well, in acupuncture really you're dealing with energy and
and you're, you're either unblocking it or adding two, you

(20:19):
know, in order to adjust the body so that it's more highly
functional. Yeah, and the the thing that's
so interesting is, again, I didn't realize it at the time,
but the rules of acupuncture andthe rules of Feng shui are the
same. It's just they're applied
differently. Well, yeah, one's to a body and
one one's internally and one one's externally.

(20:42):
One is the one is externally, right.
So yeah, so it was, it was quiteinteresting.
But that was something really that if I hadn't, if I hadn't
had a push to do that, I wouldn't have done it.
I got the push and then I I thought I found myself in a
situation where I thought, well,I must actually do this rather

(21:03):
than just. So that speaks to bread crumbs,
serendipitous synchronicities and interactions as a result.
So these are things that you hadnudges toward this that you
actually said. OK, I'm paying attention.
Yeah, that sounds good. I'll try it.

(21:24):
Right. Rather than, you know, rather
than, oh, that sounds like hooey, which a lot do, right?
The we get these indicators and these bread crumbs, if you will,
and they come from all kinds of different sources.
And yet they come and we're justunaware of when they come and

(21:46):
how it happens. And that reminds me of, you
know, in my college days when I had that experience, I came back
and I understood that I gave my life up to, to no cosmic
consciousness basically. And and did I went into light
beyond, came back with the awareness that we're all cosmic
consciousness condensed into form, just unaware because we

(22:07):
don't pursue the discipline to become aware.
Yeah. And and it is quite AI mean you
had a really powerful, you had areally powerful awakening.
I mean, there would be no, therewould be no going back on that
one. You know, absolutely trust me.

(22:28):
I've had a few cosmic tube before's I've tried to say, wait
a minute, this, you know, and it's like, no, doesn't work.
There's always readjustments andrealignments, and until you get
that, you need to just acquiescebecause you're designed for it.
Great. And you did, which is, you know,

(22:52):
which is brilliant. Some might say so, others might
say, man, you've taken 1 you know, crazy chance at life and
and and I did you know why not You know, life is to me is much
more we are much more than what we believe ourselves to be and
there's a history of documentation of it.

(23:14):
If we would just turn and look, for instance, like the Vedas,
you know, explaining my experiences.
We're all divine threads Incarnate, connected to source
capable of God consciousness. Well, what's that mean?
It means we're able to tap into infinite intelligence for our
individual self and operate in aspace of oneness.

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Which is what energy creation God right there's.
It's neutral until you put your attention, intention, and
interaction toward it. And amazing things are possible.
That's the other thing. Amazing things are possible,
especially if you get a group dynamic going.

(23:56):
Oh, absolutely, people. Really want to want to make
change, want things to be different.
And one of the really interesting speakers you may
have heard of, he's American, isJohn Dimartini.
Have you ever bought him? Yes, I'm familiar with him.
Yeah, and. He he's been around for a while.

(24:20):
He's like 20 years or 30 years, something like that.
Yeah, and he has some great stories about hanging out in
Africa and he's with with peoplein in villages where they're
very, very poor. And he's basically saying, well,
you know, no, I'm not some condescending Westerner.
I'm just. Going but they didn't know they

(24:41):
were poor, right? That's the thing.
That was their lives. They they had.
No, they were happy. Yes, yes, there was a struggle.
However, it was life. Yeah, and he said, you know, I,
I, I was proudly shown by this one young man who would manage
to get a a heart with an electric light, which was a big

(25:04):
deal. You know, that was that was one
of the big deals. And he was planning to do more
and acquire more, more things tomake life better and things
going on in this that and the other.
So, you know, it's just he had he has a very interesting take
on things as well. You know, it's also one of total

(25:25):
responsibility. You know that you've, you
basically say, well, I'm responsible for everything that
is going on in my life, which isquite a lot to actually.
That's the guide consciousness Ijust mentioned, right?
Whether we recognize it or not, we make the choices as to what a
reality demonstrates to us. Whether they're unconscious or

(25:48):
conscious is is of no matter, you know, like Young said,
right? It's our objective to make the
unconscious conscious, and that's how we grow.
And it's a it's quite a big dealto actually to actually do that.
Right. It's a, it's a, it's a real
discipline that and I don't wantto dismerge humanity or be

(26:13):
dismissed humanity, but most people want to be told what to
do so that they don't have to think.
I think, I think there are some people who would like an easy
life and hope that it would would go like that, but I'm not
sure. I'm not sure it always works out
the way. Well, it hasn't, you know, we,
we had just look what happened with COVID.

(26:36):
You know, on one hand it, it wasdevastating to some with the
information and how it happened or, or why, you know, it doesn't
really matter. However, it was a Clarion call
for people to they were forced into self obsession on hygiene,
right? And then the sequestration
allowed the opportunity for selfexamination.

(27:02):
And that happened globally. Some took it, some didn't.
You see the virtual groups that popped up shortly after and
during COVID, actually, that demonstrated that, yeah, OK,
people were self examining and they were beginning to look for
others like them that could try to figure out, OK, what's our

(27:23):
next steps? How do we change what's
happening? Because it's doesn't feel right
and there's something more available.
And you know, with what I'm doing with planetary citizens,
it began in the 70s. You know, this concept of having
a borderless world, right? We live on one planet, we're one

(27:45):
family. We haven't recognized that.
And then we're still fighting over territory and resources.
That just seems insane and yet we continue to do so.
Now with your abilities, you help folks kind of work through
that consternation, if you will,the same way that you were

(28:07):
talking about your meet, the medium that you visited and and
the tarot readings that you got.I, I think the thing that I've
found, and you've probably foundas well, is since COVID,
everything's shifted radically. I know the way I work has
shifted radically. There were all sorts of things
that I didn't believe were possible.

(28:28):
The fact that we're having this conversation now, I'm not sure
where you are at the minutes end.
I'm in Somerset in England. I don't know where you are.
I'm in Chandler, AZ right. Amazing.
So it's, it's, it's possible. I didn't think a lot of what I

(28:48):
do, especially the dowsing, I thought I had to physically be
there. And one of the things that
happened was I joined a networking group that had gone
online during COVID. And one of the ladies there was
doing healing on her. She works with horses, but she

(29:08):
was doing an example on her little dog.
I sat there watching it and the energy that came across from the
screen was amazing. And I thought, well, why do I
think that I can't do what I'm doing?
It's a quantum field, right? It it's all energy and it's

(29:28):
operational capacity is based onwhere our attention, intention
and interactions take place. You know, even the, there's a,
he was an astrophysicist physicist to begin with, Tom
Campbell, and I'm sure you're familiar with his work.
He now has done so many experiments to find the, the
math that goes along with this, right?

(29:50):
And he's what he calls virtual experiences as we are avatars
and it depends on where we put our attention as to what data
stream we receive and interact with.
So imagine if we've got a whole,you know, 360° how you know,
we're like a horn. Yeah, we're like a horn Taurus,

(30:10):
right, With all the different dimensional possibilities as to
what to experience in any given moment.
And it's just a matter of where we put our attention.
And the thing that's amazing because I, I, I spent a lot of
my college time around a lot of scientists.
The amazing thing is that the maths exist, but prove that that

(30:32):
there are multiple dimensions, not just another dimension,
there are multiple ones. And mathematically it's all
quite possible. And of course, you know, it's,
it's very difficult to argue with maths because that's one.
Of the what we no, you can't argue with maths and or direct

(30:54):
experience. You know, there was a gentleman
in the 1950s that his name was William Swigard.
He developed a process called the multi plane awareness
technique and what that was was a facilitated process.
So you have a facilitator with ascript basically, and he takes

(31:16):
the experiencer or she takes theexperiencer through 9 planes and
you create the light body, extend it, project your
consciousness into it, and then it goes through 9 planes of
consciousness of which you have bodies on each plane that you
integrate and look out through its eyes and then get whatever

(31:38):
is necessary there for you. Now this is a truncated process
because you don't stay there long and yet you can have a
direct experience of that. I I looked for an online version
of it for a number of years and finally created one is a multi
plane awareness quantum field exercise.
And then that was in, so that was in the 50s.

(32:00):
In 2010 to a doctor and a physicist wrote a paper called
the Triadic Dimensional Distinction Vortical Paradigm,
and it was a theory of everything in which they state
mathematically that consciousness, space, and time

(32:21):
are tethered across 9 dimensions.
It doesn't eliminate more, neither does the multiplane.
What it says is that this is ourhuman bandwidth.
But yes, that's yes, that's a good way of that's a good way of
putting it. It's what we're capable of
actually interacting with. Right, right.

(32:42):
Which explains that all can explain anyway all the different
interdimensionals, ultra dimensionals, extraterrestrials
and their ways of interacting with us, because we already are
on some level, we're just not aware of it.
Yeah. And sometimes it's good to be

(33:03):
aware of those levels and sometimes it's it's maybe not.
It's really freaky when you are you have things happen because
you know time is irrelevant. Things can happen in a
nanosecond, right? And what they say one place I I
finally found a reference to thespeed of thought and it was in

(33:25):
the Urantia book and it says it's 841 trillion miles per
second. So think about a data download
and how quick it can be disseminated and absorbed, yet
not unfold within you because you can't unpack it.
You don't have the ability to right yet.
Yet. Yes, yet, yet all for all sorts

(33:50):
of things may be possible in thefuture.
Sure. And and are, I mean AI for
instance, it it, we call it artificial intelligence.
It's more aggregated because it's made-up of all the human
knowledge that exists. Then it has the ability of
taking that and querying it. They call it the recursive
function in computer language, right?

(34:11):
And that's where a system queries itself for problem
solving. Well, what do we do?
We've got the exact same thing going on internally, right?
We just haven't recognized. We always the first thing we do
when we encounter a problem. We go inside, we ask a question.
Why? Which is which is usually not

(34:33):
the best question to ask. Exactly.
It's the what and the how usually are more productive.
Well, hopefully that's where it gets to, but because it's so
most of the time it's like getting a cosmic 2 before and
you wonder why you got it right.Because it's like, oh man, why?

(34:54):
Why You know, because it's that self deprecating side of
ourselves of which those 70,000 thoughts a day that we have is
mostly preoccupied with. It's those thoughts that elevate
us, that move us into those new places like you Describe how?
How would you describe moving into that for lack of better,

(35:18):
higher elevated place inside of you that's more congruent with
your design? I, I think what I'm trying to do
is set up my day at the beginning and try and connect
with the light within me and project that it's going to be a
good day. Well, tell my brain if you like

(35:41):
that today's going to be a good day.
Because some days you wake up, you think, oh God, this is,
yeah, I don't know. And then you go, well, actually.
Yeah, and how does your day go with that, right?
You can actually get well, actually, I think today I'd like
this to be a better day. I'd like this to be fun.
I'd like this. You know, I try to find
something in the day that's going to be joyful, it's going

(36:04):
to be fun, that's going to be relaxing because they're all the
other things that you kind of, Iwon't say you have to do.
But if you're, if you're aiming to go in a certain direction,
then there are things that alignwith that, that there are
actions that you need to take. And we've, we've all only got 24

(36:24):
hours in a day. But I do think that making time,
I mean, one of the things that Ido try and encourage my clients
to do is make time for fun because a lot of people don't.
If you don't write fun down in the diary, sometimes it doesn't
happen because or. If you don't have time for fun,

(36:44):
make what you're doing fun somehow.
I guarantee you can find a way. I do it all the time.
I you know, I caretake my mother-in-law.
She's 91 year old Russian, doesn't speak in English with
advanced frontal lobe dementia. And so, you know, my wife has a
real hard time because this is not mom anymore.

(37:06):
And so I stepped, I stepped in out of my love for her and and
for her mother. And so I do most of the
caretaking. Well, it's excruciating
sometimes because you're you're dealing with someone that just
is non functional and yet there's ways to have fun.
You know, instead of trying to wake her up to go to the
bathroom, I'll I'll come in and and do we utre you, you know,

(37:31):
it's good morning. And then I will tickle her toes
a little bit and she starts off with joy, which makes it much
more manageable for me. Of course.
Yeah, and so, you know, and, andtake her to the bathroom and
stuff. I'll, I'll sing the, you know,
and just make noises and stuff just to be pleasant with her

(37:53):
rather than have that, oh, I wish I could be doing something
else going on in my head. Right.
Which disconnects you from the service that you can offer in
that moment, in the full experience of it, where you lose
yourself. It's it's the difference between
duty and love, isn't it? If you're doing something, if

(38:14):
you're doing something out of love, it's a completely
different energy than doing it out of out of duty.
I mean duty's. Kind of.
It doesn't mean that it's not frustrating sometimes.
Right, of course. However, it it makes it less so
because of the attitude you havefor it.
Yes. And there must be moments when,

(38:35):
although she has dementia, that she is in some way able to
communicate with you and you seethat she's actually, you know,
she's actually. There's, there's the tactile,
right, the kinesthetic part of of things where I don't
understand Russian. I know a few phrases and things
so I understand her a little bit, but not near, you know,

(38:55):
when she just rips off a full sentence.
I have no idea what she's sayingif I don't.
Really, that's not the word. Maybe that's really good.
That may be the basis of a really positive relation.
Right, well, because my wife hears her sometimes and and she
goes like she's just talking nonsense.
It it's just insane. And I know well a good thing I

(39:16):
don't understand it then, you know, I couldn't do what's
necessary. Yeah.
Oh great. You know, it's, it's an act of
love, You're right. And to be in that place where it
could be different, right? There's always that possibility
of, you know, feeling disgruntled because you got to

(39:37):
do something you don't want to do for somebody else that you
don't really care about, right? And that to me is a family
ethic. I think it's probably more
present in America because instead of taking care of our
elderly at home, we put them in institutions or homes or, you

(39:57):
know, whatever and and basicallydistance ourselves from their
care. And it, it's so varied.
I mean, what what we found in myfamily is that we had an aunt
who was in the North of England and hadn't, couldn't, couldn't
have been moved because of the law and various things I won't

(40:18):
go into. She couldn't have been moved
before. But what happened was the
nursing home made a terrible error.
She broke her hip, She fell out of bed, didn't tell my sister
who was guardian. And what happened was we then
moved her and the nursing home didn't say anything at all,
which they couldn't. I mean, I wrote letters, nobody
even acknowledged them. As soon as she was near my

(40:41):
sister. It's a completely different
story because my sister could goin very easily every other day,
check her out, make sure she wasOK, you know?
Sure. Well, if you got that proximity
and that ability to do so right,that's, you know, my sister was
the same way. My adoptive mother was in

(41:04):
dementia care for over a decade after my father passed.
And yeah, it it got to the pointwhere, you know, it's like
dementia Alzheimer's. They don't recognize you.
They have no clue who you are. And yet, there they are, right?

(41:26):
And it's, it's, it's really tough.
I know one of my girlfriends took the decision.
She looked after her mother for 14 years and and her mother had
great. What do you call quality of
life? And my friend finally took the
decision to put her in a nursinghome when she no longer
recognized her. And she said, well, look, she

(41:48):
doesn't know whether it's me or anybody else that's looking
after her. And you know, I, I feel that
this is this is now OK to do this she all.
That makes you wonder about the possibilities for euthanasia
too, right? And, and I know that may sound
cruel to some, but you know, here's and my wife and I have

(42:10):
talked about this and I'm sure it's on others minds too, is
when you get to that place and your quality of life is zip.
What kind of experience can you have?
And is it worth sticking around or knowing what we do now about
what happens elsewhere once you leave the body?
Maybe it's best that they do because they're, they go into a

(42:32):
much more pleasant environment that's supportive of them
instead of, you know, being stuck someplace where they can't
really experience anything. That doesn't eliminate their
ability to experience things inside themselves that we have
no clue about, right. And maybe that's part of it too.
Maybe there's some adjustments. Maybe you've got more experience

(42:57):
as a medium than than I, you know, maybe there's that liminal
space that they're actually doing work that we're completely
unaware of, and they are too on a conscious level because
they're inside something beyond our understanding.
It it could easily be there was a book, I can't remember the

(43:17):
name of the doctor, but she, shehad a stroke and was I think for
three months. She was literally chromatized
and everyone assumed that nothing was going on and that
she finally came out of the comaand she said she'd been in a
state of utter bliss for three months.

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So The thing is, you, you kind of don't really know what the
experiences of anyone. I had a very interesting
discussion. Just actually, when was it
yesterday with the lady who was at the Communication Global

(44:00):
meeting where we met. And what she was saying was that
the one of the problems with thelaw around euthanasia, and
certainly as she's seen it happen in the Netherlands, is
that instead of it being limitedto people who are at the end of

(44:22):
their life or for whom there is no, there is no what happened.
There was all sorts of other groups said, you know, we want
the right as well. And it's now being offered to 18
year olds who are, you know. I've been heard.
I've heard that there's a movement wanting to make suicide

(44:43):
OK, and you know, not. And you know, frankly, we think
they're deplorable choices. But to the person who's wants to
make it, who are we to get in the way?
Well, The thing is, it's it's also lack of information because
there are a couple of things I know now which I didn't know
when I was younger. One of the things I do know is

(45:05):
it doesn't make any difference if you take your own life or
not. You came to this planet to learn
something and you're coming backto do it, to finish it.
So you might as. Well, no matter what, no, no
matter when you truncate your own experience, you'll be back.
You might as well get on with itthe, you know, the first time or
the umpteenth time around, because I'm sure you know.

(45:28):
Depends whether you view all your lives as being.
There are people who view all your lives as being happening at
once, and others who view them as sequential.
I don't know what. You favor and you know, this
kind of, I taught high school for a number of years and came
up with a holistic educational model.
And the premise is there's five different relationships.

(45:49):
We have body, mind, spirit, planet, cosmos, right?
And those cover what you just said and we've been talking
about. So how do we explore these?
And it makes sense the older we get, right, the more we
understand, yes, these relationships exist and they are
important. So you would think with our
level of intelligence in the 21st century, that we would

(46:13):
begin to impart that earlier to others so that our progression
as humanity can move faster toward this global unity that we
know is inevitable. We hope.

(46:35):
I mean, there are a lot of viewson this.
One of them is this is a this isa planet where people Incarnate
to learn. So there will always be war,
famine, poverty, disease. It's it's how much you hold that
view or not. I also hold that.

(46:56):
That's possible. I think anything is possible,
right? It's just like, what do?
It's like the ultimate goal thatI believe we have is to love and
be loved. That's what we need to learn.
That allows us to build community in the appropriate
ways, which then takes care of our people and planet in the
process. I think our planet is evolving

(47:17):
as well, and I think maybe at some point the way things go
instead of, you know, my understanding is as as a
species, we've blown ourselves up several times already.
This is, you know, we're this. It wouldn't be.
We've done something we we, I don't know if it's blown up or
whatever, but there's definitelysome prior civilization that

(47:38):
just last for whatever reason. Yeah.
So, you know, hopefully the whole planet can evolve to a
point where we can we can get beyond the stage where we are
now. I think one of.
The and we can't be open to our neighbors in space until we do.

(47:59):
Otherwise, we're going to be afraid of them.
Well, I think one of the great things is if there was suddenly
some sort of alien extraterrestrial contact that
was recognized, I think it woulddo a great deal more to unite
people on this planet because instead of being warring among

(48:22):
ourselves, we'd be going, oh, maybe we or.
Maybe we'd go helps finally arrived.
I don't know whether you I'm sure you have it in the States
because they're American programs.
Do you? Do you have ancient aliens in
the States as a? Yes, I I know Giorgio personally

(48:46):
and and I've been involved in the ufology field for over 30
years. Probably a third of my books are
about my experiences with various races, I'll put it that
way, And interactions that we'recapable of having the that we
just aren't making ourselves available because of our belief
systems. And and the the question is

(49:11):
also, do they want to communicate with us?
Absolutely, absolutely There are.
From my understanding, and I'd stake my life on this, there are
no malevolent races other than humans.
In order to achieve their level of technology, you have to have
the consciousness to go along with that which can have no,

(49:32):
which has no malevolence. It's just a vibratory rate that
it's not present, right? It's not necessary because
they've risen above it, right? We might call them all kinds of
things because of that. And a lot of what their
communication. This came through guy named
Wilbert Smith, who ran Canada's ufology program in the 1950s,

(49:56):
similar to America's Blue Book, which you're familiar with.
And he found he had conversations with what he
called people from elsewhere. And one of the basic things that
they said to them is we don't understand nothingness.
And that's the foundation for their entire understanding of
reality. And yet we do know from our own

(50:21):
ancient texts that the idea of nothingness like the recursive
function too. Now it is you go into the, you
dissolve into nothingness. Well, and from that nothingness
is whatever things come, right? And we're told in the Scripture
that, you know, all of a sudden the burst of light, it came out
of nothing. Well, what's nothingness, right?

(50:44):
How is that? And it's not nothingness, it is
unqualified energy that's available to all of us that has
supreme intelligence, or so it my experience of it is.
And this I've been in both that nothingness space and and in the
light itself. And what I found, here's the

(51:08):
paradox, right? It feels the same, infinite
intelligence connected to everything and individuated
still. And the same as nothingness.
Yes. Wow, wow.
That's that. That's something else.

(51:29):
It's a point of perspection. I I say point of perspective,
point of perspective, right? It's that point of awareness.
Castanada talks about it in the teachings of Don Juan and, and
what was imparted to him. We can move that assemblage
point around. Tom Campbell says the same
thing. It depends on where we focus our
attention attention as to what data stream we're going to
experience. It's also it's also holding the

(51:54):
data stream. I don't know.
Widening it. Yeah.
Right, stepping into it fully sothat there's an immersion in it
and there's many worlds. We're even told that right?
And and ancient scripture, right, there's many worlds.
Well, why would they say that ifwe couldn't experience them?

(52:18):
No, it's, it's what, it's what the limits are and it's also how
you, I think one of the challenges is there are a lot of
people who've done a lot of psychedelic drugs and all sorts
of things who are very aware of those other dimensions and other
awarenesses. However, The thing is to be able

(52:41):
to experience those without clinical damage.
Hey, Kevin by storm. But you got to walk in the front
door, right? Ultimately, you have to make the
experience real without any other things.
Yes, you can open doors. You can have the direct
experience. The catalysts, right, which are

(53:02):
basically what they're for, is to give us that peek, right, to
crack the door so that you can look in.
You still have to open it yourself through your own
discipline practice to make it ultimately real.
Otherwise just temporary and transitory.
Yeah, and it's not, it's not stable either.

(53:23):
And I, I, I do think one of the things that that unfortunately a
lot of the chemical pathways cando is destabilize people in
their. Oh, yeah.
If they're not ready, they don'thave the awareness.
They still have all their demonspresent that they haven't worked
through. You know, those are the bad
trips, right? Where you, you're addressing it

(53:46):
because that's what happens you everything that is incongruent
in yourself is going to be presented to you in that
experience. That's that's what I understand,
but fortunately I haven't had that much in the way, but I've

(54:07):
experienced others. I've been around those who have
and, and man, you know, I had a cousin that had ended up having
51 chalk treatments after a bad trip and it was horrible just to
to seeing go through that and ended up being somewhat of a
vegetable afterwards. Is he all right now?

(54:29):
No, he's he's never fully recovered and he was brilliant
in high school. But once that happened, it
changed him. He just became docile.
Yeah, I I think I wouldn't say electric shock treatments are

(54:51):
the way to bring. Oh, absolutely not.
I was scared to death I was going to get him when they put
because that was a year prior that I spent time in the
hospital and I I was not. Because the the thing that
brings you down from that is vitamin B3.
I don't know whether they use that now or not.

(55:12):
Well, this is in the 70s that you know, most of the chemistry
and understanding of neurocircuitry and things like
that, that there was no understanding of it.
It was a DSM4 diagnose and treat, right, based on their
behaviors and whatever. There was no.
Well, let's dig further and see if we can understand really

(55:35):
what's going on here. There was, oh, this is an
aberrant behavior or disassociated behavior,
whatever, and we need to fix it instead.
All right. Now it's a different approach
because we know more. But back then, and from my

(55:56):
experience, there were others like me who didn't have the
advantage of being able to see and observe themselves and
figure out their own way and gotcaught in the treatment programs
in stock. And they were having, you know,
the hearing voices, seeing things, all the clairaudient,

(56:17):
you know, experiences of the clairols in some degree or
another, that in Midwestern territory and Bible Belt
Indiana, those were not acceptable.
No, certainly not in the Bible Belt.
I can imagine. Right, so and yet we get through

(56:38):
it. I I was fortunate to have had
some guidance early on and and had I guess my own tenacity of
holding true to me and not allowing others to tell me how I
thought and felt. And I think you were probably
lucky. It sounds like you had a really

(57:00):
a really enlightened psychiatrist.
I did, and I also had good parents.
Dad was a 32nd degree Mason, Momwas a school teacher, and they
both taught me. They both encouraged me to be
radically curious about things. You know, that backfired on them
as a teenager, but what could they do?

(57:23):
And I'm sure it scared them to hear me talk to them about my
experience because they didn't have it.
They didn't know what to do. And so they followed the
prescribed or prescriptive path and and, you know, you take them
to the doctor and figure it out.And it's just part of what they

(57:44):
knew that they thought was best for me.
At the time, yeah. It, it, it, it would be.
I mean, I know my, my mother didn't like doctors at all and
was sort of stay away from them every, every possible
opportunity. But what I found with my
training is it's, it's basicallyfinding the right person to ask

(58:09):
for help. If you found the right person
for you, it makes a huge difference.
I mean I I that. Person will often show up when
when you're seeking. You know, this is one thing
about pushing and pulling energy.
If you're constantly seeking something, you're pushing it
away ultimately, but when you intend to find it.

(58:33):
Different energy, right? Oh yeah, very different.
And it can show up and will because you don't.
There's no energy that's keepingit from that.
You've, you've set your intent, you're being still and you're
allowing it to happen. And you know, guaranteed, I'm

(58:56):
sure you've experienced the samething, right?
That's part of just how it works.
I'd I'd, I will douse if I'm, ifI'm not sure who I need or what
therapy I need to help me, then I'll douse it.
And sometimes I get an answer that seems unlikely, but

(59:17):
inevitably when I follow it, I even, I even douse for the right
person. If I get, I mean, one example of
this is recently I had a lot of back pain and I've, I've done
work with a wonderful homeopath and you would think homeopathy
and back pain, you know, you'd think it's something structural,
this, that and the other. But I doused for this lady
previously and I thought again, all right, I'll douse, I'll see

(59:41):
what therapy do I need. And sure enough, it was the same
lady within a day of taking her remedy, boom, everything was
fine. So it it, it's and you would
think for back pain. Is this logical?
And no, it's not. Logical.
Well, the most people you know doing the dowsing to find a
person that just doesn't computeright And yet.

(01:00:05):
It's all energy. You're all you've asked for it,
you're intending it, and you're just allowing that whole process
to work and you're paying attention to it and interacting
with it appropriately rather than dismissing it.
Yeah, and and it, you know, and it does.
And I'm just thinking, you know,it's like I remember years ago,

(01:00:29):
one of the one of the quotes somebody gave me was, you know,
you don't argue about the colourof the fireman's hair.
So it's, it's just not like someone's coming to help you.
Do you care if they have early hair, straight hair, black hair?
It's like this is, this is the person, this is the fireman.

(01:00:50):
So, so good. Here we go.
Sure, now you you've began to broach how you've taken your
gifts and moved them into a professional environment.
Now what? How did you find your way or or
what evolved to bring you to thethe Feng Shui?

(01:01:11):
Again, that was something I didn't, I didn't go looking for.
I did. This was at the end the 80s,
early 90s. I was trying to sell my house in
southwest London and I've been trying and trying and trying.
It's difficult. There was a recession on and

(01:01:32):
eventually I got really nice buyers.
Young couple were coming and they were in a hurry and I went.
I wouldn't do this now, but I went to myself.
I don't think I can buy somewhere quickly.
They wanted to move in like 6 weeks and 6-8 weeks something
and to me that was fast and I went.

(01:01:52):
I don't think I can find somewhere.
So I thought, well, I've just got to move out.
And this was my thought. It doesn't matter where I go.
I'll have the money in my bank account.
All well and good. Let's just move out, not worry
about it. Off we go.
So my immediate thought is what is logical, right?
OK. My son was going to college or

(01:02:14):
he was due to go to College in North London.
So I thought, right, so we find a flat in North London, we move
on things there and you know, further down the line I'll buy
somewhere else, right? So we moved, right?
My life fell apart. It was unbelievable.

(01:02:37):
I mean, I was a single mother for a lot of the time, so I was
used to things going up and downand being being difficult.
So I'd had, you know, I was working in London, I was working
in Harley Street. I've been there a while.
Suddenly I had virtually no patience.
So my income dried up, right. My son, suddenly all teenagers,

(01:02:57):
you're a father, you're aware ofthis.
All teenagers think they know everything.
Like, so my son suddenly got that in spades.
Like it was, it was like, my goodness, what is what is going
on here? And I'd always been very clear

(01:03:18):
about looking for partners who were available.
I didn't want to get involved with married men or anything
else. And suddenly there was, there
was nobody out there. I was doing the things I'd
normally do to meet a potential partner and nothing.
And I had. So the universe was saying, all
right, Suzanne, we're going to clear the slate for you so many

(01:03:40):
ways. It was like, it was like, oh
wait, I've been there. This went on for three months
and I went, you know what? This is ridiculous.
I've never seen anything like this before.
And I'd heard about Feng shui. I didn't actually know exactly
what it was and I asked around. So I said, you know, do you know
anyone? Nothing.

(01:04:00):
So then a flyer drops on my mat and it goes Feng Shui De is West
Centre London something Saturdaysomething.
I went sign me up. All right, so.
Move your stuff, change your life.
So I went, OK, so I turn up. I didn't know what to expect,
right? I wasn't particularly into

(01:04:20):
macrobiotics at all. And I did a macrobiotic
experiment and for someone with AB VS negative blood group, I
have to tell you, macrobiotics are a disaster because I need
three times the amount of vitamin C most people need
anyway. So a turn up, guy's teaching,

(01:04:41):
people are coming up to him withtheir floor plans and he's
looking and going, you're experiencing XY and Z.
And they'd look back at him and they'd go, what?
OK, this guy knows his stuff. So I thought, well, I'm going to
take all the notes I can possibly take, listen to
everything. So I did, went home, looked at

(01:05:04):
my notes, did everything. Everything changed in three
weeks. And then I thought, wow, so the
sun came out. This is wonderful.
So then you think you know everything, right?
Because I'd taken all the notes and this, that and the other.
I thought that was it, right? I didn't realise the depth of
the subject, so I started doing other things.

(01:05:27):
Things started going wrong again.
I thought no, no, no, no, no, I'm calling my teacher in, he
can do it, right? He came in, he broke half of his
own rules with what he told me to do because I've been writing
everything down and I was looking.
But of course he knew what he was doing and everything settled
back down again. So I thought, right, OK.
I was working with people in pain and who have physical

(01:05:51):
problems, often have other problems.
So I'd say to them, I wouldn't particularly explain to them.
I'd say, look, draw me your floor plan, why don't you try
doing XYZ? And I was just basically saying,
does it make any difference? Is it just me or is it other
people as well? So yeah.
Let's experiment. Why not?

(01:06:12):
Let let, let, let's just ask andand you know, they had no, they
had no faith in what I was asking them to do.
They didn't know anything about it, but they were getting
results. So I thought, right, OK, so this
stuff definitely does work. There's you know, there's,
there's not. People ask me, do you have to
believe in it? And the answer is actually no,

(01:06:33):
because psychoelectricity. If you turn the light switch on,
I can't tell you how electricityworks, but I know it's there.
Well. And there's a consciousness too,
the fact that you connect with it to at least give it the
opportunity to work. So you open yourself up to it

(01:06:54):
and then it just does what it does.
But and it's your permission that makes a difference.
Yeah, you, you, you go. OK, Shall we see whether this
this works? So that really got me hooked on
it. So I got, I got more and more
into that alongside what I was also doing as well.

(01:07:16):
So it was, it just kind of, it just kind of grew from there
because I didn't realize, I alsodidn't realize the connection
between acupuncture and Feng Shui, which I found out later.
So it was like I was doing something that.
Layer upon layer right as as we learn one thing, we'd see how it

(01:07:37):
fits with other things and and it happens sooner or later.
Yeah. And, and I would initially, when
I started, when I first started doing it professionally, I would
have days where I'd kind of go, you know, this is all so
ethereal. Everything I'm doing is
invisible. Is this really real?
And I would go to someone's homeand they would tell me their

(01:07:59):
story about what was going on, and I'd walk around and it was
in the walls all around them. It was unbelievable.
So I went, OK, yeah, it's all right.
You know, there is a this, thereis a, a basis for this.
There's a foundation for this. It's OK, right?
Because people, people think that you're just doing things

(01:08:21):
off the top of your head and actually you're not.
You're, you're following, you'refollowing this.
Well, after a while it may appear that way because you know
it so well, right? There's a difference between ego
and confidence. Confidence is knowing what you
know, and ego is believing you know what you know and trying to

(01:08:42):
push it on somebody else to get them to believe it too, right?
And there's a big difference in that and how it shows up, right?
You've witnessed for yourself and for others the results of
making these usually small changes, sometimes larger ones,

(01:09:03):
if the house is really in disarray, right?
It can, can be and, and it's andit's also sometimes it's like
when I'm helping people with moves.
It's like when I move to where I'm living at the minute.
I know about the difference thatmoving, doing a move with the
energy and against the energy actually is and I want it to

(01:09:25):
move obviously with the energy. The thing was, the universe
didn't have it planned out that way.
I had surgery booked for my shoulder and it was cancelled
twice, once because I had COVID and the second time there was a
nurses strike. And it just happened when I was

(01:09:47):
thinking was my God, I don't know where I'm going to be after
I've had this surgery. Am I who am I going to be
staying with? Am I going to be here there
wherever? And what happened was the move
was just about a month after theenergies of the year had
shifted. So instead of moving with the

(01:10:08):
energy, I moved against it. So I had to use the stuff that I
know about to actually ground myself in my new place.
I hadn't planned it that way, but you know, and sometimes you
plan things and it just doesn't.It just doesn't work out like
that. Yeah, or you plan things and the
lesson is different than what you thought it was going to be.

(01:10:31):
Yeah, and, and, and I have people that, you know, people
will say to me they're doing because often a move is not for
5 minutes, you know, you're talking about a long term move.
And they'll say, well, you know,I'd like to move with the
energy. And sometimes it's just not
possible. I mean, if you think of people
in the military working for big companies, diplomatic corps,

(01:10:55):
they're told you will go to wherever.
Right, and you have to adopt theOR adapt, adopt the attitude of
everything is temporary and transitory.
All you can do is be present andaccountable wherever you are in

(01:11:15):
the moment and then deal with however it falls from there,
which you've got the tools to deal with, right?
Or others may have them if you don't.
So how we're running close to time and, and this has been an
amazing conversation. I I, it went into some really

(01:11:37):
wonderful spaces and places thatallowed you to share some things
that others might not often hearto full more fully understand
not just you, but the work that you do and, and energy and, and
how that all works and, and how it may apply to them.
So Speaking of how it may apply to them, what kind of advice

(01:12:00):
would you give to others that are kind of in a quandary still
about their lives, their energy,their, their home environments?
Granted, it gives new meaning toget your house in order, right?
Yes, yes. I think, I think the first thing
I'd say is that if you can, yourhome is your earth energy.

(01:12:25):
And the more you can love what'sin it and the more you've got
the sense of what's around you are things that you love.
Even if things aren't totally inorder, if you're walking into
that when you come through the door, it's great.
There are some things that automatically raise the energy

(01:12:46):
of a place. Flowers and plants, 1/5
dimensional energy, Flowers, 1/5dimensional energy.
That's always lovely to have around you.
Anything, if you actually, if you actually just clean where
you live with the intention thatyou're clearing the vibes,

(01:13:06):
opening the windows, letting theair in, letting the sunshine in,
just your intention will make a huge, huge difference.
But I think the main thing is tolove what's around you and to
care for it, even if it's only temporary, even if you know
you're only here for three weeks, whatever.

(01:13:27):
Yeah, be grateful for what you have.
Love it and you'll have more. If you have disdain toward it,
then toward it, then you're probably not going to get much
more. It's I, I think that a lot of
that is true. And I think, you know, if you
can create this little haven foryourself, whatever else is going
on, whatever other chaos is going on, if you can get a good

(01:13:50):
night's sleep, come in through the door and go, yes, this feels
lovely. I'm so glad I'm here.
I'm so glad I'm home. That's that's the real energy.
And to anyone moving, I would say, especially couples, the
main thing is to walk into a place, look at each other and go
yes. And it doesn't matter what's

(01:14:12):
going on in the house. That is the energy to move on.
That's very. Cool, Suzanne, it's been
wonderful. I really appreciate your time
and your being and the work thatyou do.
And thank you so much for comingand sharing that with us.
And I know it'll be benefit to of benefit to our audience too.

(01:14:35):
Thank you so much, stans. Thank you so much for asking me.
It's been a wonderful conversation for me too.
I've, I will have to explore more of your books and more of
your, your work. It's not very often I do.
The rabbit hole, let me warn you.
Well, it's not very often I talkto someone else who is into
ancient aliens and especially who knows Georgia.

(01:14:56):
That's wonderful. Well.
Thank you. And and you know, it's my life.
I, I'm just open about it and again, I appreciate who you are
and, and our future together. Who knows what that might be.
And Namaste and in La Ketch. And thanks for sticking with us
for this episode of One World ina New World.

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