Ep 218 - Rewriting Reality – Awakening through Self-Love and Inner Freedom with Christina Olsen - One World in a New World - Apocalyptic Chats Podcast

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Now, this week's guest is Christine Olson or Christina,
excuse me. Oh, by the way, one thing that

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you probably need to know is we've got 1.8 million views.
So what I'm talking about isn't just a theory, right?
We've got some traction. We've got viewers.
You're one of them now. Thank you so much for being
that. So Christina Olson, she is a
hypnosis expert and mindset coach.

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She rewires through trances for peak leadership and wealth.
Now she is a host of RememberingYou podcast, which is really
what all of this is about. It's remembering who you truly
are. She's also a speaker on
transformational change. She's a chief executive officer

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for Bright Soul LLC, and in thatshe creates strategic
partnerships, investments in advisory, strategic partnerships
for future events that will absolutely change the world over
time. She is an investor and board of
directors for the compensation committee for Notice Ninja, and

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I am really looking forward to this conversation with her.
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Christina, it's so great to haveyou here.
You know, these introductions are always a pain in the butt,
but you know, it's so valuable to have people like you on the
show because as you know, being a hypnotist, we're the rest of
those inner conversations. You help create them with others
in the work that you do. How we bring those out and show

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that it's OK to bring these inner thoughts and feelings and
concerns and even experiences out into the world so that we
can get corroboration, validation, and maybe further
understanding what they are because we hear ourselves talk
about them. So this being an important

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factor, how did you begin to understand that there was more
to this world than just what youwere seeing in front of you and,
and experiencing in in the outerworld is there's a far deeper
connection that each of us have.Yeah, well, Zen, first of all,
thank you for sharing this time with me in the space.

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I appreciate it means a lot to me, really.
My, I have always loved to have freedom and freedom's like my #1
value ever since I was a little kid.
And everything that I was told these rules and guidelines and
of society, I always question them.

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And it would just like really irritate my parents.
Like why can't I just be quiet and do what I was told instead
of asking all these questions right?
And so for a while in my earlieryears, I learned how to kind of
disassociate and just play by the rules, which.
Is common. Yeah, right.

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You know, we all try. Even though we're all weird in
some way, or we think we are, westill try to fit in so that
we're socially acceptable. Exactly.
So I went through my life and I checked off what I call like the
bullshit rules, right? All the boxes that the world
gives you, you know, you, you want to go and graduate from

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high school and have a lot of friends and go to prom and you
want to go to college and get your degree, you know, get
straight A's or as good of grades as you can.
And, you know, do it all with a smile, be a social.
And, you know, it was like, OK, so I thought that would make me
happy and I got my degree. I got a great job and I was

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living on my own. Ended up like going through a
lot of we'll talk, I'm sure moresome trials and tribulations and
met my ex-husband who I had my two children with and we had a
great house and all those things.
And in like 2015, sixteen after we had our second child, I was

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like, OK, so I've checked off all the bullshit boxes and now
what do I do with my life? I have a great job, I have two
kids, I have the white picket fence, I've got two dogs, I got
a husband now what? And I'm still happy.
You know that that's a perfect point.
And you know, in my awakening, we spoke a little bit prior to

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it. And as a teenager, when I had my
awakening and, and found that place of freedom, right, there
were those constraints. And it wasn't until a
conversation with a psychiatristthat my parents sent me to and
who was just a godsend. I mean, he was outside the DSM 4

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at the time. He didn't want to diagnose and
treat. He wanted to listen.
And they truly helped me understand what was going on
with me, not try to put it off as some kind of symptomatic
excursion, right? And because evidently he'd has
himself and he listened well enough that I had all of those

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key points that reference to spiritual awakening, which is
what he said after the third visit.
He says, you know, you're not crazy, you've had a spiritual
awakening. Why so young?
I don't understand because most people don't have it till their
mid 40s, if they ever do, which that's kind of the area

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thereabouts that maybe late 30s,you know, 40s where you're empty
nesting, you, your corporate burnout, your, you know,
transition change, all these kinds of things.
Midlife crisis, all of those kinds of things are happening,
which generally facilitates a deep trauma event that has you

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give up and open yourself up to something more.
Right. Yeah, and that's what happened.
I actually went to, and I've nottalked about this on any of my
podcasts or anything. So this is new for anybody who
follows me. I went to a psychic actually,

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and it took me almost like 6 year or six months to get into
him. He's really well known here in
the Chicagoland area. I think he's still practicing.
But I went in and then thinking,well, I don't know.
I don't. I don't have anybody who died in
my life that's really that I wasreally close to, except for my
parents and or my grandparents. Answers are always going to be

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clearer from the other side. Yeah, so I was like, I don't
know what I'm getting myself into, but I decided to do it
anyways. And he told me it was very eye
opening. He said to me, Christina, you
have you've been doing a lot of work and I see that you have
your spirit guides very close toyou.

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They're very grounded. And I was like, oh boy, which I
had been doing a lot of like journaling and stuff and asking
my spirit guides for help. So I was like, wow, this is
really interesting. And he said you can choose to
because I went with this, I had this whole issue with my, my
husband and like my kids and being stuck in this box.

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And I didn't say it like that tohim.
He said, you can choose to either stay in this box and be
unhappy or I see a future where there's a lot of money
opportunity to help people and live your life's purpose.
And it's this is the, this is your chance to decide to take it
or not. And I was like, wow, after that.

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No doubt. Yeah.
Afterwards now, was that more corroboratory to your inner
awareness about what was happening that you hadn't really
had anybody to speak with about yet?
Yes, yeah, it was and and there was more to it, but that's just,
that was the gist of it. And it was mostly, yeah, I had

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had this. Yeah, 'cause those things don't
happen in the vacuum, right? There's as much as you step in
with your willingness to show upin your best, that doesn't
always mean it's going to work because the other has to show up
with a like frequency and willingness to navigate and and

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he wasn't. Going to he wasn't going to be
there. Well, we, we're not taught how
to do that. You know, we're kids raising
kids raising kids, right? And there's that unwillingness
to be vulnerable. Talk about the deep stuff.
You know, my parents, your parents probably were in a
generation that didn't talk about things.

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They were stalwart. They were, you know, you just,
you know, man works, woman's in the home, you know, in America
and maybe the rest of the world too.
That's a pattern that's developed over time.
That wasn't necessarily meant tobe, but it was facilitated by

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the powers that be and how we were framed in mostly religious
perspective, right. And that it's wrong.
Oh, you can't get divorced, That's a sin.
Well, you know, when you when you have two frequencies that
are brought together that are incongruous or, you know,
partially harmonic to begin withit, if the rest of it doesn't

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work mathematically, scientifically, how would that
work out when it's going to create disturbance and
dissension? That's just the natural order.
So we need to be more or would you say that that natural order
is something that we're kind of bereft of understanding too?

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Yeah, yes, I would say that we, we, yeah.
I mean, that's pretty deep, not.Known to be shallow.
OK, so if I take it, yeah, I mean, yes, so I talk about a lot
about this on our podcast, right.
So like, if I'm at in a relationship and we just did

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this an episode on hurt people hurt people.
And so it's and it and that's why you can stay in those
relationships and those cycles until one person pulls them
themselves out of it and they start vibrating at a higher
level. And then I'd say 90.
I keep saying this on the podcast, 99% of people don't

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make it. The the relationships don't make
it because they just keep creating the disdain that you're
talking about. It's you're fighting 2
frequencies that just aren't coming together.
And there's an unwillingness to look at self 1st and establish
the self love necessary that breaks those patterns.

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That's right. Yeah, that's right.
And so if one person's working on the self love and realizes,
you know, that they're worth more, the other person will
naturally just move out of theirlife because everything that we
have in this world are just simply mirrors of what we have
going on in our inner world. Now, is it a matter of worth or

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self worth? For sure that that's part of it.
But we often think that worth equates to some kind of
financial arrangement and right and not and that's the evidence
that it's working. Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, yes. However, that's not the the core

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of why you do that, right? It's the navigation into a state
of harmony with each other, which creates the happiness, the
joy, the fulfillment. And yet that reluctance to step
back and look at oneself and notbe defensive is a first step,

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which is hard to do because we're taught to defend
ourselves, right. So how let's go, let's turn the
the pages back a little bit. Go ahead, go back into the
Wayback Machine and we'll ask Peabody to enjoy to join us.
Bullwinkle records. So in this, as you were growing

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up and feeling that freedom and what kinds of things were
happening as a child that gave you more awareness that, OK, I'm
seeing some things that don't feel right and I know there's
something better and I see this,how can I get there?
So my mom and dad were really young when they had me and they

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gave us a great life for, you know, I love them very much.
And there was a lot of being, I went early on in my life, a lot
of being handed off to grandparents.
And both sides of my family werevery Catholic, very religious.
And I was always like, but I don't understand why the priest

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can't get married. Like I and my grandma was like,
well, they're this, it's 'cause they're giving themselves up for
love and to God and like all these things.
And I was like, I don't understand it.
And so my grand. Where did that rule come in?
I I don't ever remember Jesus ever saying anything about that.

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And that's what the whole religion is designed after, was
his teachings. Yes.
And so every time I would ask questions, I would kind of get
the standard, you know, religious answers and I just
didn't really believe. And I, so I was kind of like, I
felt like an outcast, I guess you could say.

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And so my grandma would take us to, or take me to these prayer
groups. And I one time was I, I don't
know what was going on with me. I was probably like 8 years old.
And I swear to you, I saw the Virgin Mary and she was like,

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you've got to love yourself. And I.
I got to pause for just a second.
The vibration of that energy that came through just produced
a line of disturbance in the video.
I don't know if you saw that I did on my side.
I just find that those are the kinds of synchronicities we were

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talking about earlier. That evidence right in the
electronic world of things actually connecting, be that as
it may, you can see it or not, or, you know, I'm not saying
believe it, it's true. I'm saying that's just
interesting. Yeah, it is just interesting,
isn't it? Yeah.

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So that's kind of when I woke upand I told my grandma, I said I
saw the Virgin Mary. And she said, wow, that's
awesome. And she was a very religious
person. So she thought, like, I had like
a a special, like I was special.And then everybody she told they
were like, she's making that up because she wants, you know,
your attention. And so.

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Isn't that strange? You know, you've had that.
I'm sure you you probably had other visitations as well.
I've had them. I've had Jesus show up and ask
to speak through me to a group of people.
Baseline that telling the story.The first thing that most
Christians do is they want to destroy and disturb and and
deviate from the experience. Our experiences are only truth,

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right When we sharing that with others.
Then if they don't accept it, it's OK.
But why do you have to make us out to be liars when we're not?
Yep, that's right. And and how do you know?
Because if they're what they're doing is they're just being very
close minded and. Hearted.

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Yeah. And ask the question to
yourself, what is it about the situation that I want to shut
down, you know, and what is it within me that won't accept what
somebody else is saying and ask those questions because.
That point right there, it's like, right, so we are one with
each other and there's somethingthat self love issue, right?

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There's something in myself that's unable to accept that
truth completely because I stillfeel defensive about it.
Right, That's correct. And so you have to work through
that. And that's what I am here to
teach people is how do you ask yourself the right questions to
just shift your belief system just a little bit so that you

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can open your mind and, and realize that your kid, the
people closest to you, your family, your child, your child,
your, your siblings, your parents, What is it about them
that's bothering you? And what do you need to address
inside of you? And then how do you shift your

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perspective just incrementally every day and give that self
love to yourself and that worthiness of being loved?
And that's what I'm talking about When I say worthiness.
I'm not talking about like you're worthy to get $18 million
or something, Like you're worthyto give yourself.
Maybe you'll corroborate this. The the core that seems to be

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present in each of us when we peel back all the layers is
simply to love and be loved. That's right.
And we lose that in our everydaysociety.
You know, we choose to watch fear based news, read fear based
articles. We send our kids to basically

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jails that they have to stay within 4 walls in a certain
amount of time. They're told when they can move
from one place to another. I mean, the majority of us do
because we don't have unlimited funds and we have to send our
kids to to public school. And so that's what we're
learning. This is how we're raising our
kids. And there's, yeah, a lot of the

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public schools can say I've done, you know, we've done a
lot. There's no bullying campaigns
and all this stuff. But when you're anti bullying.
You're still fighting bullying. Bullying is still the issue.
Exactly. And how does it, what does it
sound when you say you're anti bullying versus you're pro
kindness and love, Right. And it's a totally different

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conversation and it's a different feeling when you
actually say that. And so there's a lot of things.
American schools especially havebeen programming kids in boxes
to meet test scores, right, rather than give the creative,
innovative, critical thinking support of their own natural

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abilities. Now you know what I have to say
my, and this is an interesting reflectory point that I've found
I met and married what feels like my and I know my twin
flame, right? And a lot of people go, what the

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hell is that? Well, just trust me.
It's a very deeply connected soul that we sense and feel.
So she is. She was born, raised in
Leningrad, USSR and went throughtheir entire system.
She was analyzed as a 5 year oldby an educator and they chose

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that. OK, you've got the skill set,
the aptitude and the physicalityfor either being a pianist or a
gymnast. Which would you like?
And she chose piano. So then what happened is she got
this robust education around becoming a piano pedagogue, and

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she graduated from the scores Mesorksky College, which is one
of the top music schools in the world.
Now, here's how that's how they treated in the USSR, right?
Which is this ultimate enemy of the state, but they treat their
children that and it may not be the best.
There may be some nuances in there.

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However, that difference showed up in how competitive and how
the rest of the world saw Russiaas being this elite athletes,
elite mathematicians, philosophers, scientists, right?
Well, how they, that's somethingthat American needs to take and

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look at and reflect on and change so that we can support
our children rather than seeing them all drugged and disturbed
with the ADHD, the neurodiversity that, you know,
the, the choices of who or what they want to be and, or the lack
of them and the lack of support that they have in that.

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Again, kids raising kids, we haven't grown out of that state
of being because we're stuck in it because of the programming we
get. Well, and that's why we started
remember you it's you know, it'sone voice on top of one voice to
start to wake people up, right? That's why you're doing what
you're doing wake people up realize that we don't have to

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follow the same structures that we've followed for the last 100
years. You know we.
Don't know what the new ones will be yet.
No, but you start. That's this period that we're
in, right? It seems like all these
fragmented kind of things that we're wondering, and yet it's
part of that process of chaos toorder.
And the chaos holds the patternsthat we're seeking.
We just don't see them yet. Yeah, and that's where I I've

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started this whole campaign on my social media the last like 3
weeks is chaos to calm. It's it's, you know, I, it's
really going from this chaotic place to a more calm on
accepting, loving space. And and as we all start to get
on that vibration in that wave, things are going to start to

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change. We don't have to know the how.
We just have to. We'll figure it out.
That's the collaboration part ofit, right?
I have a series right now on on my newsletter on LinkedIn.
It's called Zenscapes Mindful Futures, and the series is about
looking at our social platforms and what's happening and how we

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can elevate them on the rungs ofthe spiral dynamic scale, right?
And collectively we can do this.We just need to present it and
act. It's our behavior that's
controlling everything. Well, and actually I I would
love to understand from your perspective.
So like the spiral dynamics, right?
When you're, when you're lookingat like a blue level, right?

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Like somebody who just likes to live within the rules and the
regulations the society gives you, right.
What is your perspective on how do you get people to go up the
rings quicker? Because my understanding is it
takes that. It takes something within them
to change something. Nothing that they're going to
hear you or I say will impact them.

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It's a choice that that needs tobe made, but, and here there's a
difference. We're all born, I believe, with
a purpose. All right, we've, we've if we
look at the divine plan, we could accept that it's order and
the universe is 1, then all of us are strands in it where those
divine threads right? Like the Vedantic philosophy
where all divine threads connected to source capable of

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God consciousness. That means working in harmony
with each other and the universenature.
So in that process, there's thischoice that comes up.
Do I have a dream? And it's funny, you know, I
started my coaching consulting business back 1988 with the name
of Be the Dream, not realizing how that would ultimately affect

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things, right? And then we've gone through our
transformations as well. So being able to see that to
look for, OK, where does, where does my energy want to flow?
What am I passionate toward? How, what are my natural
proclivities, right? What, where do I resonate most,

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most with and what other companies might be in that realm
or what other individuals or what do I have at my disposal
that I can create my own gig with and get help from others
coaches like me? That's been there, done that,
You know, that's part of what wedo as part of this process.
So being able to step into that,having the confidence to do it

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first of all, or at least the vulnerability and to drop the
fear and just say, OK, I don't know, but I'm going to step into
it and see what happens. The universe supports that.
Every book that you will ever read about finding commitment
and stepping into that, the universe supports.
You'll have synchronicities. You'll have bread crumbs, right,

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that show up in front of you, subtle ones.
Usually. You don't want to get the cosmic
tube before because that means you've been doing the same thing
over and over again. Over again.
Like Einstein says, that's the definition of insanity.
So by making that change, to step out of the patterns, or at
least recognize them to begin with and ask for a way out, the

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universe will surprise, will surprise you with it.
Like you were saying, you asked the right questions.
The universal law dictates that you will get the answers.
They may not be the ones you want that they'll be the ones
that are best for you. Yeah, and you have to have an
open mind to accept them. Right.

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Did that explain the each of these levels in the spiral
dynamics? Spiral dynamics for those of you
who aren't aware Beck, and it's a reason they call it Beck
Graves model and that they did 40 years of research and looked
at how populations, how society reflects these different layers

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of behavior, openness, mindfulness, vulnerability,
unification factors, all of these kinds of things.
And they put it in a scale, and it goes from the lowest, which
is war, to the highest, which isunity consciousness and working
as one, which is where the natural progression of our own

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evolutionary process is headed. You know, the universe is not
cacophonic. It's not an entropy.
It's always refining itself. Well, if we can look at that
through our own eyes and see, well, we're constantly being
refined. Well, what's that mean?
How do we step into that and notbe afraid?

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Because it's going to be a jostling, you know, as we're
removing those things that are discordant within us and
discovering those beliefs that we've held that don't belong.
That's right. And if we go back to our school
system, if we redesigned it a little bit more around I,

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there's the 12 laws of the universe, but I like to call
them the 13 codes of the universe because it I.
Love that number, right? I do believe that, you know, the
number one is that everything that we're living in is
mentalism. So we are a mind.
God is a mind that has created US and then every single

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situation he's figured out and he knows what's going to happen.
It's what we choose. That's why he gave us free will
and that's why this video game that we're in is fun.
And so then if you can learn that mentalism piece, then you
can understand a lot more of allthe different laws to come and.

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When you take that, that that's a very simple thing and and the
complexity is this intelligence,this infinite intelligence that
we're all connected to has far more capacity.
And in the formless state, what's going to happen?
Well, you got to create forms inorder to experience your own
creation. And so there's this multiplicity

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of opportunities and, and the joy of such a rich experience
across the board, even though itseems like there's this polarity
involved when you look at it from A1 perspective, it's
circular, it's spirals, it it's all part of the same.
Yeah, well, that's what, So one of the laws that I'm really into

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right now is the law or the codeof polarity, right?
So you think of temperature. This is the easiest way that I,
I've talked to my kids about this temperature.
Like when you say something's hot and something's cold, right?
You're basically talking about temperature.
You are that and you either havecold or you have hot.

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Some people love it really cold temperature.
Some people love it. Really hot.
During the movie, some like it hot.
Yeah, exactly. And you, this life is about
coming into the balance, into the middle and realizing when
you're getting too cold or too hot and pulling yourself back
into the middle balance. And this closer that we can come

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in middle and balance is the closer that we that we can
become in more harmony together is the way I look at it.
And it's a lot of times this, I talk about this a lot when
you're looking at politics, it'sthe same thing.
And I know I whatever, everybodygets all upset about politics,
but you go stay all the way to the right or all the way to the
left. You have this huge polarity, but

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you're still talking about politics.
So ask. Yourself Well, the thing about
politics, pardon me for the the interruption that politics are
things that death and taxes and politics, right.
We're not supposed to talk aboutthem.
People don't want to get involved in politics because
they don't want to take responsibility.
They want to put it on somebody else and then complain or try

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and push or pull, you know, whenthe reality is it's personal
responsibilities that we each have to step up and live.
Yeah, yeah. And we give our power.
And this is another thing that I'm really passionate about is
like, stop giving your power to somebody else.
You have your, your power withinyou.
Unless they've proven that they're ethically and morally

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capable of managing it. Yeah.
And and even then, I don't know.I'm not sure.
Well, that's still part of how we learn to get along together,
and it's the system that's been created in order for world
powers to navigate as well. Now you mentioned the, the, the

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school system. I taught high school for a
number of years, especially at aregular Ed charter schools.
I, I designed multiple intelligence learning Centers
for one school that were just amazing.
And then at the end of that for my second degree and, and
organizational management, I wrote a business plan for a
model school. And what I found it was a

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holistic school with a holism isabout 5 relationships, body,
mind, spirit, planet, cosmos. As we get older, we understand
these five relationships are imperative to be aware of.
So how can we share that with the newer generations so that

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they get a leg up for their future and understanding a more
complete pictures the like the Russians, right?
The here's the skill set. Now we've got the system to
support that. How can we put you into that in
the best place for you to find your own success, fulfillment

(33:59):
and service to the world? Well I was in a pretty intense
meditation and I heard I want tosay it was like a God spirit
come down to me and said that I was asking what is my purpose
now that I sold my company and Idon't know what to do.
And the voice said Save the Children and I was like what the

(34:25):
hell does that mean? Was it save my children?
It wasn't you know. And so for like 6 months I went
on this meditation journey and ended up getting my hypnosis
license. I went actually down the path
you went and I was thinking, oh,I have to open up this school

(34:46):
and like help all these kids. And I started interviewing
people who are in this, in the space that you and I are in.
And they said you can't Save theChildren, you can't do this
school. There's too many other that
there's too much out there already and it's not working
because the parents don't align with it.

(35:06):
You first have to save the parents before you can Save the
Children. Well, yeah, they're, they're
dualism, right. So you you've got that dual
approach and and yes, that's true.
However, as you found, I'm sure,but maybe this should be better,
poses a question, have you founda way to connect a logic path

(35:28):
that's explicable to the point where it resonates in the truth
of it so that it's undeniable with the parents?
And that doesn't mean they can do anything about it, it just
means that it makes sense to them.
Have I personally, yeah, I'm practicing it with my own kids,

(35:49):
right. So I well.
You got to learn it first beforeyou can share it, right?
That's right. So I went back to school.
I, I have a psychology background and I got my license
and hypnosis and I have been practicing it with my own kids,
right, of understanding. Whatever's going on inside of me
is just mirroring out to them. And how do I help them

(36:11):
understand the same thing when they're out to the outside
world? Funny you mentioned that I had a
practice marriage of really 4 kids and by the time I taught
high school, they were that age and I, they were, we were
divorced in, in 88. So they moved back to Indiana
and I'm living in Phoenix. So the only way that I have to

(36:35):
keep up with them is to be around kids of their same age.
And so I, I just got an MBA and I thought, OK, I'm going to the
teaching cert and see what I cando with that to be helpful and
learn and, and be in touch and wow, amazing journey that is.

(36:55):
And I'm just as yours. But that whole thing about, and
that whole thing about being present and connected, even at a
distance, right? You're still attempting to be
connected and understanding of what's going through so that
when that time does come that you're able to have a

(37:16):
conversation, you're better prepared.
Yes, yeah, it's 100%. I mean, I don't, unfortunately.
Fortunately. Whatever you want to say, either
way, you can look at it as a gift.
You know, my husband and my ex-husband and I are obviously
divorced, so we share custody. And so I'm the same way.
I don't get to spend 100% of my time with my kids.

(37:39):
So then when I do have them, or I'm around other people's kids,
I instill the same values, talk about the same things, and
utilize that time preciously. Well, and the fact is when you
disassociate, right, you don't completely disassociate.
You just agree that, OK, there'sa love here.

(37:59):
It began and it's not as full aswhat we thought it might be.
But that doesn't mean that we can't have, you know, like that.
What is it? The Gantt chart or the the one
with the three circles that's got the centerpiece.
So there's these factors and then there's that core in the

(38:20):
center so that all the tangential relationships outside
of that, for instance, focusing on your kids.
But you agree that, OK, there's a working relationship here that
still needs to continue. You can still be friends.
That doesn't mean you're capableof cohabitating.

(38:42):
It's so true. I mean, it's it's what I guess
modern day people say, hey, we Co parent really well or
whatever what you want to say. But yeah, it's finding that
middle ground of, you know, realizing that, hey, it didn't
work out. But as you grow, you can still
be in that middle ground and find that balance to have

(39:04):
something where you can stay emotionally strong and intact
for your kids so that they become better people.
Right. And so, yeah, I mean, I guess
going back to the whole school thing, I did not start my own
school, but I do. I never it was thank you for
thinking I did. It didn't happen.
It was still I took it to because it was for at risk kids.

(39:27):
OK, I was focusing on so I took the model to the Arizona State
Child Protective Services Director of Education and he
said Zen, I love it, but you're light years ahead of us.
I don't know if we'll ever get there.
So that was a rude awakening because I have all these loving,
you know, idealistic possibilities that can happen.

(39:50):
And the reality is, it's just not time yet.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not time yet, but it's
getting there. It's it's.
It's well, that was 20. That was 2002.
So we we're making progress. Yes, we are.
I actually was hell bent on homeschooling my kids.

(40:11):
And so after that, I was like, all right, well, if I can't
start my own school right now, then I'm going to do my own
school with my kids. Was it heaven bent?
Heaven bent. Whatever.
I don't know. Yeah, that's.
Interesting how you know words come out we don't.
It's just those kinds of things,right it?
Was programmed into me, so you're right, it's nothing.

(40:33):
It's. All beautiful.
I mean, it's both made by God. So yeah.
So I, I, you know, we, I gave my, both my kids the opportunity
to be homeschooled. And my older son actually was
the one who took the opportunitythis year.
And we have learned so much in what, less than two months,

(40:56):
three months with him being home, he has really blossomed
and taken control of his own education.
And he's, he right now would be a junior in high school.
And everybody thought he was crazy for wanting to do this.
But he's reading for English. I gave him all my favorite
books. So the The Body Keeps score.

(41:19):
He's currently reading, he read The Untethered Soul by Michael
Singer, one of my absolute favorites, which everybody
should read. And he came to me and he said,
mom, a few, my friends are taking psychology classes right
now. And we had this conversation
when we were at the basketball court other day.
And he's like, dude, they're like, how did you, how do you

(41:42):
know all this stuff? And he's like, my mom's making
me read these books. And it's like eye opening.
He goes, I didn't, he goes, I don't really have that like
roommate in the head. I just make a decision and move
on with it. And I don't think a lot about
it, but he goes, you guys like everybody.
And now I know how people act and like why they need
explaining it all to them. And they're like, wow, can we be

(42:04):
homeschooled by your mom? Well, you know, and there's a
perfect example, you, you take the child out of this programmed
environment, which they don't have much wiggle room.
Yeah, unfortunately, and having been there, right, that we just

(42:26):
don't. And then you take them out of
that and you place them in an environment where they can have
the opportunity to thrive because they have the direct
nurturing of the parent as well as the education.
This is where that the distance is created, right?

(42:47):
Parents aren't involved in theirchildren's education.
Again, being a piano pedagogue, my wife, I, I see how the
students progress. Some the students who are
supported by their parents at home and made to practice, which
is, you know, you're not going to get who's the mastery of an
art? It takes at least 10,000 hours,

(43:10):
right? So those parents who support the
kids and however they support them at home, whether they're,
you know, controlling them or forcing them or just encouraging
them to practice, but the discipline to do so, there's the
factor discipline, right? When they practice, they perform
well. We just had a recital last

(43:32):
weekend that was a demonstrationof that.
The kids who practiced performedwell.
The kids who didn't, didn't. Well, and, and, and I think it
goes back to what you were talking about earlier, right?
It's like if you can align your path, get you, get yourself
aligned with your passion, no matter how old you are, whether

(43:52):
you're five years old or you're 100 years old, then you can take
aligned action. And if you want to be great at
football or piano or guitar or drums or whatever, first you
have to know that that's your passion.
And and if you're, that's your passion, then you're going to

(44:15):
want to take aligned action. And nobody's going to have to
control you or force you to do any of those things.
Now, I believe parents need to teach by their own behaviors.
You know, by how kids should, not should.
That's a bad word. How kids can.
Align. Yeah, align with their passions

(44:36):
and take aligned actions right by you doing that yourself and
showing up every day and doing those things right.
So if you're. Kind of.
Kids listen to words, you look at actions and if the two don't
Mitch mix or match, then they shut off.
Yeah, that's right. And and that you can't control
your kid. I don't care what you want to

(44:58):
believe or not, there's no controlling anybody.
You can, you might be able to control them until they're
141516 years old, but I'm guaranteeing you you're not
going to be able to control themas they get older.
So teach them instead by your own actions on how to live life
to the fullest, by good with good values and taking that

(45:21):
action to enjoy life in whateverway you want to and finding
something that's going to light you up.
Make sure you have some hobbies,you know, find something that
really just gets you into that flow state.
You know, it's just do these things that that will add to the
good of our world and do it witha loving do it in a loving way.

(45:46):
You know what my my kid, I'll give you an example.
I'm not a huge sports fan, OK? My younger son and my ex-husband
love sports. There's like they have they're
going to the playoffs, my younger son's sports teams going
to the playoffs and they may make it to the Super Bowl.
OK. And so I was telling my older
son, I'm like, we're in the playoffs now.

(46:08):
We have to have, you know, more football practice, and it's
going to interfere with baseballpractice.
And me and my son were on our way to yoga.
And he's like, mom, you're not doing what you you're, you're,
what are you? You're going down this negative
spiral. You're doing what you tell us
not to do. He's like, look on the bright
side. It's still nice outside.

(46:29):
It could be 20°. He's like, he's going to get a
lot of more exercise than he normally would.
He gets to be with his friends. And I'm like, wow, my kid just
took me out of my negative spiral.
But it was, it was eye opening cuz I was like OK, at least I
know I'm doing the right thing, teaching the right things and
now he's helping me. Right.

(46:50):
You know, change my perspective.Perspective change is always
great flow state. You mentioned that earlier.
What is that? Well, I always say it's, you
know, when you're working on something like writing or doing

(47:13):
something crafty or maybe even in a job that you just
absolutely love and you started at at 9:00 in the morning and
you look down and it's 5:00 at night and you haven't eaten or,
you know, gotten up or all of a sudden you just lost track of
all space and time. That's flow state and if.

(47:34):
Like Nephew and close say, there's a Theory of Everything
model that I found fascinating because it validated an
experience I had back in 1989. Similarly, it's kind of like a
hypnosis guided journey you might even be familiar with.
The guy's name is William Swigard and he developed these

(47:56):
techniques in the 1950s, multi plane awareness and multi level
awareness and they're guided sessions that you do some very
interesting things with. So one of the multi plane is
designed so that you in your light body, for those of you who
don't understand what that is, it's this etheric body that we

(48:20):
have that doesn't necessarily it's around us, it's part of us,
but we can separate from it and project our consciousness into
it and use it to travel with. And so this scenario use the
light body to go through 9 planes of consciousness and
integrate your body on each of those planes.
Is that as we condense into formbecause we're cosmic

(48:41):
consciousness condensed into form just unaware.
So these are the bandwidth levels of that condensation in
that's available to the human experience.
It doesn't mean there's not more.
That just means that's our combined bandwidth experiential
capacity. Now nephew and close a couple of
doctor, a doctor and a quantum scientist came up with this

(49:04):
triadic dimensional distinction vertical paradigm that they
published in 2010 and it says consciousness, space and time
are tethered across 9 dimensions.
So here's the math and science that validate this actual
experience. So it's no longer just
imaginary, right, Because those kinds of things where you're

(49:26):
like, you know, was that true? Did I really experience that?
Well, yeah, if you experience something, it's true for you,
right? If it can be true for others,
then there's better validity andmore acceptability of the
potential of it, right? So once this, this

(49:50):
corroboratory, here's the math and science, here's the, you
know, it's wonderful to be able to have those kinds of
synchronicities. Now, it took 28 years or 30
years for that to appear, right?They wrote the paper in 2010.
I had the experience in 89. I found out about it in 2018.
So those kinds of things give evidence to the nonlinearity of

(50:18):
the experiences that we have. Have you had something similar
to that that you could relate to?
I mean, I'm, I'll try to relate it to somebody to kind of every
everyday life for people. Well, that's where it got to
boil down to I, I realized what I just said was like, holy shit,

(50:39):
that just blew a lot of minds. Well, how do you bring that back
into a direct experience that's applicable on a daily basis?
So in in hypnosis we teach that you don't remember you.
You don't. You don't actually remember
memories. You remember feelings.
And if you go back to what you're talking about like

(51:00):
nothing's linear, then we have to understand that we're just
living in our present reality. And when we remember things,
we're remembering a feeling, andthat feeling could be happening
now or and we're reliving. It, well, it's a stored file.
It's a stored file in the quantum computer that's

(51:21):
vibrationally related. Yes.
And so that to me aligns more like, oh, if I'm remembering
something, am I reliving it or am I?
No, I'm just refilling it from aquantum perspective and I'm not.
I didn't understand that. And so it doesn't.
And this is going to sound a little crazy, but I'm going to

(51:41):
say it anyways. I always had a hard time
remembering things and I was like, why is everybody always
talking about the past, right? Because I'm living like for the
future and thinking about all these other things that could be
happening and they're always talking about the past and all
this stuff that happened. Dragon baggage instead of
getting on the flight. Exactly.

(52:01):
Exactly. And so if you think about it
from that perspective, we everything's happening at
different times. It's not linear.
Yeah, we grow up and, you know, we have these, these light
bodies like you're talking about.
I call them meat suits. We are.
We're when we're born. That's the difference that the
meat suits the one that we have the the physical experience in

(52:23):
the light body is the one that allows us to have the spiritual
experience. OK.
And when we're, what I, what I know is when we are born, we,
our light bodies are already at the size that we are now or
bigger, whatever. And we, we are just growing into
the size that we're in right now, right.

(52:44):
And so it's a goes back to your,I'm just aligning what you were
talking about where there's kindof like, no, the space and time
is irrelevant. We're having experiences every
moment and it doesn't, it's, it's not, hey, we had this
experience. Somebody put a timeline
together, somebody put a clock together, you know, and so, and

(53:07):
then we start to because we believe that we're going to get
older and we, this is how we live.
This is how we're living becauseit's all mental.
So I could believe and there could be a time and space where
we don't age and we still all stay at 21 and maybe we come out

(53:28):
at 21 and that's what we look like.
I don't know. But that's if we all believed
that that would happen. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That would be an interesting newconfiguration of the physical
world now, wouldn't it, to be able to accomplish that.
Although it's similar, it, it, it would seem that being able,

(53:49):
you know, I love that there's a video and I can't remember the
name of it. It's about Tesla's 369
configuration. There's some math and science in
it, but there's also an example of the electromagnetic field
around a human body. And in the the short video, a
clip that speaks to it, it starts with that point of light

(54:11):
in the center, right. So we've got this, what's called
a Taurus around us. That's bi directional, right?
And this energy is constantly flowing.
All it's it's a sphere ultimately that that's around
us, kind of like the Earth's magnetic field.
We have the same for each of us.So it starts from that point of

(54:34):
light that it's the center. So each of us in our it seems to
be anyway in our true form. And, and this is just my
experience. You don't have to believe it.
In that experience of cosmic consciousness, we're all Points
of Light and we vacillate on thedifferent dimensions that we
choose to inhabit or are aware that we can.

(54:59):
And then from there we create this physical body which is
made-up of Mother Earth, right? So we, it's not just a phrase
that we are the children of the Earth.
We actually are. Our entire physicality comes
from our planet and the things on it.

(55:21):
Yep. We've missed that for some
reason. Well, and I, I mean, I talked
about this in another podcast, but I believe that this is
really weird. I'm going to say it anyways.
AI is going to help us understand that because it's
going to get off, get us off ourget us off our asses and back

(55:41):
into nature and realize that we are all part of this earth and
we are all part of Mother Earth and we will be.
I was doing some research about some of the one of the companies
that you were working together. It was a textile and a clothing
company or whatever that they make 100% recycling recycled

(56:04):
clothing that you, and so you wear it, that you give it back
and it recycles back. I believe that what you're doing
with companies like that is the way of the future.
And responsible. Yes, responsible and it we're as
and AI is going to give us the ability to quickly come up with

(56:25):
more of those like creative ideas right because.
It is, you know, an AI. We think of it as artificial
intelligence. It's not.
It's aggregated, right? This is all human intelligence
that is just querying. Now the thing about what I find
fascinating and I totally agree with you, it is catapulting our
ability to ascend into this new normal much better.

(56:48):
How it's doing that, it's a two phase, right?
It also the term recursive function, right?
So in a large language model, which is what AI is, it queries
itself for problem solving. That's the recursive function,

(57:10):
that's what it's called. And what do we do?
We. Do the same thing.
So how do we learn to dissolve into nothingness?
Right, because this is what the recursive function does.
You ask the question. It dissolves all possibilities
and then reemerges with what it can find.
Actually answers the question right effectively.

(57:37):
So we do the same thing, only wecircumvent the recursive
function in ourselves and the answers that emerge by not using
the process appropriately. We think we know the answer and
so we will supplant our answers instead.
Now the Native Americans and indigenous folks globally, they

(58:01):
have a process and I forget whatthey where this originally came
from. It's called the three brain
system, gut, heart, head, and the processing order is in that
way. First brain is the gut.
Now we know scientifically it's got neurosensors at the Union,
right? The heart is where we distill it

(58:22):
and decide whether it's desirable or undesirable.
Then we feed it to the quantum computer sitting on top of our
shoulders that's connected to everything to get the better
answers now. And it's amazing the shift that
happens in individuals when theybegin at least exploring that

(58:44):
because it's really hard to shutyour thinking off, right?
We get 70,000 thoughts a day according to the neuroscientist
and most of them are self deprecating.
I would almost guarantee it. Yeah, I mean to yes, because you
talk about everybody says, oh, do affirmation statements, I am
wealthy, right. So but a lot of times that

(59:08):
doesn't work. I see that in a lot of my
clients, right, because their little thoughts in their head,
their other 70,000 thoughts are saying well you're not healthy
because your fat ass ate a pizzayesterday, you know, and that
the affirmations don't work. And so if you start asking
yourself, assume the wish is already fulfilled and start

(59:30):
asking yourself why or what questions, then you start to
begin to think and act like whatyou are or.
Instead of asking for what you don't have, be grateful for what
you do. Yeah.
And start there. And I think a lot of people have
a hard time with even that, you know, everybody knows, oh, I
need to be grateful. I need to be grateful.

(59:52):
But it's actually like picking afew things we I have.
You don't want to be grateful for the challenges you face
because they aggravate, frustrate, anger you, and yet
that's the only place you grow. Right, it is.
It is, yeah. And so.
Most of the time, I mean, when you're thinking about stuff
forward, thinking people like you, right, you've already

(01:00:14):
expressed that you look ahead, right?
You're asking questions about how you can show up better to
facilitate the future. That's a different place than
carrying the baggage, trying to bring it onto a flight that
there's not even any carry ONS. Yep, that's right.
And I, and I can't stress enoughto the listeners how important

(01:00:36):
it is to really put the baggage down in any mode, any way, any
modality that you can find. For me, it was hypnosis.
That's why I got certified in it, to quiet the noise so that
you can accelerate your life andthe life of all those around
you. And that's where I break

(01:00:59):
people's trances. I interrupt their trances and I
help them get back on track. You know, that's the best way I
can put it. And then what is back on track?
Disruption. That's all.
That's what you need to do. Right and get out of the my
life's miserable. I can't do this.
I don't you know what? There's always something like
you said to be thankful for whateven it could be to be thankful

(01:01:21):
for your miserable life. And I know that sounds crazy but
turn it around somehow but. That just seeing it that way
will turn it around because you've made a choice to see it
differently now how perfect segue because we're we're coming

(01:01:42):
up on closing time. Another song, musical
background. I like that.
I like that song. I do.
I do too. And especially, you know, my
wife's pianist and I, I'm a progressive drummer.
And so we're both percussionists.
We like to beat on stuff. Hopefully it's not each other,

(01:02:02):
right. So how would you offer what
advice, simple advice that you could give to others that could
begin to help them? You know, one of the things I
share is just simply putting your fingertips together and

(01:02:22):
focusing on your breathing and just feel your heartbeat in
them, right? When you can feel your heartbeat
and your fingertips, you're officially out of your head.
So then you're in that quiet space.
And when you can enter that withan intention of seeking an
answer, magic happens. So how?
What kind of suggestions do you offer or give to others to find

(01:02:45):
those places and be more coherent in their own lives?
I mean, the, the number one thing is that whenever somebody
starts going down a path that you know their life is bad or
terrible or these bad things keep happening, I always say

(01:03:05):
just take a moment to really breathe in deeply and feel the
love within yourself and say I love myself so much.
I am worthy of making different choices.
And then when they find themselves, because a lot of

(01:03:26):
people that I work with have really bad anxiety, whether it's
they want, they're walking into the boardroom and they're, they
feel like they, you know, are going to say something stupid or
they're going on to a flight andthey're having severe anxiety or
whatever. One of the first techniques that
I teach them is the bilateral stimulation.
Have you ever heard of this? I've heard.

(01:03:48):
Please explain. So it's when you basically move
something between both sides of your body and it could be simply
your hands, like you're just kind of rubbing each side of
yourself. You know you're crossing your
arms together or you're literally.
Yourself a hug. Yeah, or you're literally taking
a pen underneath the desk and moving it between each side and

(01:04:09):
really thinking about what you're doing and breathing while
you're doing it. And a lot of times I'll tell my
clients that to repeat, it's notme, it's my brain, it's not me,
it's my brain. And they can slowly come out of
whatever anxiety that they're dealing with.
Those are just a few little tipsthat I could give.

(01:04:33):
That's awesome. And of course in that process,
if you look around, you know there's no danger.
So why do you sense it, right? It's all made-up shit in your
head for the most part. Now, granted, there are some
things where you're in precarious situations.
You do need to have a little, you know, concern because it it,
it does warrant a bit of fear. Yeah.

(01:04:53):
But 99% of what you think does not come true ever.
And so it's understanding that those thoughts, those 70,000
thoughts, we think a day, none of them are coming true except
for the ones that we put a lot of energy into and those are
usually those are all the ones that come true.
Yeah. Do you feel like it's all about

(01:05:15):
where we put? We choose to put the focus of
our attention with intention andfollow it up with interaction.
Yeah, that's right. Yeah, it's not the law, you
know, the what is it? The Secret talked about the law
of attraction. And a lot of the times people
felt like, Oh yeah, I'll sit andmeditate and draw everything to

(01:05:35):
me. Well, that's the first step.
If you forget about the taking astep toward it, then it really
doesn't work. Well, and it's also the feelings
because if you're telling you'resitting there meditating and
attracts, say you're dreaming ofattracting your $5,000,000 or

(01:05:56):
whatever it is, it's just not going to be there unless you
live your life like you have that $5 million already and
which is already fulfilled. So there's just so much that
goes into it. That's why I'm a big advocate of
understanding the 13 laws of theUniverse.
I made. I'm kind of making that all up,

(01:06:17):
but there's books out there for the 12 Law of the Universe, 12
Laws of the Universe. But I really think until you
understand mentalism, you're notgoing to understand any of the
other ones. And law of attraction comes
last. Right, right.
Yeah, There's an old book I found.
You just reminded me of it. And feelings, right, Connecting
with that kind of thing we're talking about earlier.

(01:06:40):
God, this has been 40 years ago.I was walking through an old
Mercado here in town that was vacant as it had been for
probably 2 decades at least. And I walked into this and I'm
walking through I think, oh, there's a gift here.
And I find a rose quartz. I think, oh, thank you, you know
that. That's really cool.

(01:07:01):
That wasn't the gift. That was only a part.
It was a heart centered 1 rose quartz, right?
Led me into this little buildingthat had a stack of books piled
up in it, just pile. And I see this one book I'm
attracted to and then it's small, you know about like this.
And the title of it is Seership and it talks about psychism and

(01:07:29):
the very things that you're talking about that 13th law,
right? You know what?
It was written 1898. I was going to say a long time
ago. So we don't.
Have it. And so, you know, reading
through it, it, it said the samething.
Well, yeah, and that's the thing.

(01:07:51):
So we have to stop what I. So a lot of times I also talk to
my patients and my clients aboutstop.
Be mindful of what you're takingin, right.
So take in the the positive things and and stop with the

(01:08:12):
negative things. So the mainstream news,
mainstream media, just turn it off, make it when you.
Start to say a terse word. Hit the pause button.
Breathe. OK, what can I say that
contributes rather than detracts?

(01:08:32):
Yep. And the more you practice that,
the easier it becomes. Yeah, it's.
Not for some. It may be really hard to
practice because you're you've built your life around your
negative self-image. Yeah, that's right.
And that's when I encourage people to go out to coaches like
you. And there's tons of other
coaches I can help where, you know, you need a teacher and a

(01:08:57):
coach to talk to. And when you have your, you're
always, life is all about waves and you're always going to have
that roller. Yeah, that roller coaster that
you're on, and when you have, you know, people around you that
you can bounce ideas off that are safe, that are positive, it
makes life easier to elevate your consciousness.

(01:09:20):
Absolutely, Christina. This has just been an absolutely
wonderful conversation. And I say that and spell it with
an O, you know, so wonderful because we're talking about the
one in each of us, right? That reflects that deep
understanding, connectivity and ability to transcend and live in

(01:09:43):
harmony with each other. So conversations impeccable for
that. Thank you.
Thank you for spending the time with me, I appreciate it.
I've learned a lot today. I didn't spend a moment, I
shared it. Yeah.
Thank you. You're welcome and namaste and
in LA Catch and thanks for sticking with us for this
episode of One World in a New World.

(01:10:05):
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thank you so much. And I one last thing, make sure
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