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May 20, 2025 45 mins

“Trillions of dollars are working against transparency.”

In this explosive episode of the Only Healthcare Podcast, hosts Michael Navin and Randy Vogenberg, PhD, sit down with Mark Galvin, CEO of Talon Health, to expose the powerful forces fighting to keep healthcare costs opaque—and why that’s costing you more than you realize. Whether you're an employer, patient, policymaker, or provider, this episode is your wake-up call. 

Mark, a seasoned tech disruptor, unveils how Talon Health is dismantling the infrastructure that hides healthcare pricing from consumers. From his early work influencing White House legislation to building Transparency 2.0, Mark shows how true price transparency could save consumers billions of dollars. 

But here’s the truth:

"There’s a $2.5 trillion reason the system doesn’t want you to know the price."


We unpack how regulations like the Transparency in Coverage Rule and Consolidated Appropriations Act (CAA) are reshaping fiduciary liability, and how employers are now legally responsible for understanding and disclosing what their healthcare dollars are buying.

Key Highlights:

  • How Healthcare Became a Black Box: Why costs are hidden and who profits from the confusion.
  • Regulatory Whiplash: The truth about the No Surprises Act, PBM kickbacks, gag clauses, and why employers are next in line for class-action lawsuits.
  • Disrupting the Monopoly: How big insurers and third-party administrators are quietly doubling as manufacturers and price-setters—and what that means for your wallet.
  • The Consumer Revolution: Why empowering people to shop for care like they shop on Amazon is the future—and the biggest threat to the current healthcare economy.

🔗 Connect with Talon Health:
Website: Talon Health
LinkedIn: Mark Galvin

🎧 Stay Connected with the Only Healthcare Podcast:
Website: onlyhealthcarepodcast.com
LinkedIn: Only Healthcare
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Hosted by:
Michael Navin & Dr. Randy Vogenberg

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Sponsored by:
Peek: A game-changing prescription shopping solution that allows its members to view all their prescription cost options across cash discount programs and their insurance in one easy-to-use platform. Peek is currently being offered to organizations to help both employees and plan sponsors save money on their prescription spend. https://peekmeds.com/.

Institute for Integrated Health (IIH): Health care benefits, insurance coverage regulations, and doing business in the healthcare industry can be complicated. At IIH, Dr. Randy Vogenberg and his team understand these unique challenges and provides strategic guidance customized to every client. To help overcome your unique challenges, IIH delivers education, planning and advisory on market trends, and U.S. health care market intelligence. The firm’s decades of proven success are due to strategic collaboration with associates from the business, clinical, and scientific communities. https://iih-online.com/.

Music by:
Hanu Dixit, https://www.youtube.com/hanudixit

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