September 4, 2024 • 39 mins
Let’s talk about Season 4 Episode 2! Ryan and Maggie chat with writer Kristin Newman about the origins of the West Tower at the Arconia and her secret contributions to the impeccable casting of Sazz Pataki.
We’ll hear from two members of the Sauce family: the legendary Daphne Rubin-Vega who plays Inez and the charming Lilian Rebelo who plays her daughter Anna. We’ll learn what secrets might be hidden within that bubbling sauce and who exactly was responsible for introducing the entire cast to the card game Oh Hell.
Just a heads up, there are spoilers for episode two. So listeners, if you haven't watched yet, stream it now and come right back!
We’ll be back Friday for more on Episode 2, so make sure you subscribe to the show if you haven’t already!
Send us your thoughts and theories: onlymurders@strawhutmedia.com
Or chat with fellow fans on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/OnlyMurdersHulu
We’ll hear from two members of the Sauce family: the legendary Daphne Rubin-Vega who plays Inez and the charming Lilian Rebelo who plays her daughter Anna. We’ll learn what secrets might be hidden within that bubbling sauce and who exactly was responsible for introducing the entire cast to the card game Oh Hell.
Just a heads up, there are spoilers for episode two. So listeners, if you haven't watched yet, stream it now and come right back!
We’ll be back Friday for more on Episode 2, so make sure you subscribe to the show if you haven’t already!
Send us your thoughts and theories: onlymurders@strawhutmedia.com
Or chat with fellow fans on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/OnlyMurdersHulu
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Strawt Media.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
What kind of sauce are you making?
Speaker 3 (00:04):
What kind of sauce are you think you We make
all sauce, any sauce we think we may.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
And we make it with love.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Hello, and welcome back to the Only Murders in the
Building Podcast. I'm Maggie Bowles and I'm Ryan Tillotson, and
we are looking behind the scenes, mining for clues as
we meet the cast and creators of the Hulu original
series Only Murders in the Building.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Today on the show, we're talking all about episode two.
We'll hear from writer Kristin Newman about her contribution to
the casting of Saspataki and the origins of the West Tower.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
We'll also hear from two members of the Sauce family,
Daphne Rubin Vega who plays Us and Lillian Rabello, who
plays her daughter Anna.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
At first, a quick recap listeners.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Be aware spoilers for episode two lie ahead, So if
you have a watched the episode yet, hit the pause button,
go back and watch it and come right back.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Recap Episode two, Gates of Heaven.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
We open up on documentary footage of Saz Pataki. Charles
still has Saz's ashes all over his hands, and while
he's carefully funneling her ashes into a mason jar, the
ghost of Sas appears.
Speaker 5 (01:26):
Me being dead as a least to your Problemos also,
get your hands off my boob.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
We learn about some possible suspects across the courtyard at
the Arconia in the West Tower, the Westies. All right,
Charles tell us about the Westies. There's stink Eyed Joe,
the Sauce family, Christmas all the Time guy, and an
apartment that always has the blinds down.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Now that they think Charles might have been the target,
they decide he should stay home to be safe while
Mabel and Oliver go over the West Tower and investigate
the new suspects.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Mabel and Oliver meet Stink Eye Joe aka Vince Fish,
and he brings them over to the apartment of the
Sauce family, where we meet Inez Alfonso and their daughter Anna.
Inez has a major crush on Charles.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
He's her haul that while Charles is hidden away safe
at home and waiting on hold with the police, Jan
sneaks out of prison and into his apartment through the
closet and the secret passageways, and she is worried about
Sas too.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Here she's real. While Oliver and Mabel and the Westies
play Oh Hell, we discover they have a giant hemone
roped up in the shower from Portugal. It's a ham, Mabel,
it's a ham in the shower. We learn that the
blind's apartment is dood Enough, the name from SAS's sticky note,
(02:42):
and he lives in Portugal.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Some numbers from SAS's notes open up the lock box
on Doudanov's door, and those numbers upside down spell out.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Oh hell, seven seven three four to four zero.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Inside that apartment, Oliver and Mabel find a ham radio,
a window that opens, a footprint on the win, and
a pig in the bathtub.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
There's some aggressive knocking at the door. When they finally
open it, there's nobody there, and the pig escapes. The
luminol arrives, and so does Detective Williams. She's worried about them,
so they spray the luminol and they see that Saz
wrote a note in her blood on the floor. It
says tap in, that's right.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
And it's a message to Charles. Charles, do you know
what that means?
Speaker 5 (03:26):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (03:28):
I do.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
We're not investigating Saz's murder.
Speaker 6 (03:31):
Any we're investigating mine.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Welcome back on with the show. First up, writer of
episode two, christ and Newman.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Thank you so much for being here.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Kristin Newman, you weren't able to be part of season three.
Getting back to season four, jumping in, how was it?
Speaker 5 (03:57):
I mean it was just an amazing embarrassment of riches
in terms of the cash that snuck on in season three,
in terms of your Merril's, your palls. And then we
came back and there was an actor's strike that you know,
was had just ended, and so all these movie stars
were suddenly available because everybody's movies had gotten canceled, and
(04:19):
so everybody wanted to be in it. And so it
was so exciting to just come into a writer's room
and every day John up and walk in with another
incoming phone call from some giant movie star that wanted
to do the show. It was amazing.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Okay, is that how that's happening?
Speaker 7 (04:33):
It's just like John's like working these deals or something
like in the background while writing's happening, or like you
don't have any idea like as you're going.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Yeah, basically, after you have Meryl Street, basically everybody wants
to do your TV show, And as a viewer of
season three instead of a writer, it was this like
magic trick to watch them do, to like, oh my god,
who is next? And there really aren't other shows that
get to do that, And so this year it was
wonderful because the phones were really ringing with giant celebrities
(05:06):
who wanted to do the show. But of course they're
very busy people, and so it takes some time to
write a show, and then all of a sudden, everybody's
got a big movie they've been offered or something else
to do, and so it was a lot of writing
for one giant movie star and then you rewrite it
for a different giant movie star, and things change and
awards come, and so it was. It was not an
(05:28):
easy process. But then looking at the season, having just
watched all of the episodes for season four, you really
get that feeling sort of like after you have a
baby and you can't imagine any other child could ever
have been the child you were supposed to have. You
watch these amazing people and you're like, nobody else could
have played this role. It's amazing, how do we ever
(05:49):
imagine anybody else doing it? So the lucky, lucky, lucky
collection of people we got this year was such a
joy to write for. It was amazing.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
It was something we were thinking about in episode too,
because like, we meet stink Eyed Joe in episode two
and it feels like no one could have played that
part except for Richard Kind, right.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
Richard Kind was the exception. Okay, when we brought up
stink Eyed Joe. I think we created stink Eyed Joe
for Richard Kind.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
And his name.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
He didn't even get the name against Fish until very late.
His name was Richard Kind. We called him Richard Kynd.
That was his character name. That was how we pitched
dialogue was in Richard Kine's very distinctive voice. Kind of
an easy, easy impersonation to do. He was always Vince
Fish and we got him, thank god, because that would
(06:41):
have been hard to ship years. Yeah, and he feels
so much like he lives in the wallpaper of the Arconia.
We're like, how did we ever do this shoe without him?
He's like the personification of only murders in the building.
Somehow it's perfect.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
It's the face podcasters for the East Tower.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
So, speaking of stink Guy Joe, Episode two is where
we meet the Westies as they're called. Can you tell
us about having the responsibility of introducing viewers to this
new wing of the Arconia and its residents.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Yeah, that was a really fun, I think, very early
discovery when we just started with what happens in almost
every season of the TV show is that something dramatic
happens at the end of the season and the details
of what happened have not been worked out yet, and
then the next season we figure out, Okay, what do
you think happened there? And so starting with just what
(07:40):
we knew, which is that a bullet came through the
window from clearly across the way, all of a sudden,
we're like, who lives over there? And what if it
was this completely other side of the building. And you know,
there was this very disturbing trend and a lot of
fancy buildings in New York City that would be also
(08:01):
forced to have rank controlled units that would come with it.
That were they really call They had a separate entrance
and they called it the poor door. That was an
offensive thing that happened quite for quite some time. And
so it kind of started with that concept of this
other group of people with this other entrance, and for
(08:21):
a while we had a different doorman down there that
we called Wester the West Side Leicester. Then they didn't
even get a doorman in the end. But yeah, thinking
of who is this other world of people was exciting
to get to open up.
Speaker 6 (08:37):
There's stink eyed Joe, it seems hostile, always looking over here,
giving me this stink eye. There's the Sauce family, always
stirring some kind of sauce at all hours. Looking over here.
(08:58):
Three people a lot, the pots always stirring.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Are they stirring up a nice batch o murder?
Speaker 6 (09:07):
There's the oddest one of all Christmas all the time
guy had someome guy always working out, never takes down
as Christmas decorations. Where's a Christmas sweater all year round?
That's most of them.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
It just kind of came from the initial conversation about
like the wonder that is New York windows, right, and
like looking in to a wall of apartments and getting
to see all these people and sometimes kind of forgetting
that they also can just look back and also see you.
And this like very weird intimate look into people's lives
(09:41):
that you have when you live in these apartment buildings.
And sort of forget that they're looking back and all
of the judgments you might make about them. It's fun
to go to the other side of the building and
here Vin's talking about that weirdo who's always staring over here.
You know, he's always also made his own assumptions about
them on the other side. And and they all have their
(10:02):
own little gossip about the Easties as well. Right, So
it started about that, and so what are you watching
people doing? And we're just like, you know, if they're
just always staring and stirring, staring and stirring, its kind
of weird and creepy and like just a lot of sauce,
too much sauce, Like suspicious that they're always making sauce,
and you know, and so yeah, the Sauce Family was born,
(10:25):
the Sauce family.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
So something that's really fun to me about meeting the
Westies is they have their own little group kind of
like uh, we have on the east side of the Arconia,
and they have this like tradition of playing this card
game oh hell, and they're going to the bathroom to
get some of the good stuff and then coming back out.
Can you tell us about that scene and about that game.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Yeah, I mean, you know what I know because we
all heard about it for the first time from Tom Hoffman. Well,
I imagine told you that he learned how to play
it from Marty, and Marty had great stories about learn
I mean it from Steve and Spielberg. This is just
who hangs out with these people and they all have
these very amazing card games on planes, you know, with
(11:09):
famous people. But it's all very sweet and charming and
they love this game. So then I had to write
the scene. I have no idea how to play a
hell so I don't yet, no no one ever played it,
so I don't know. I just tried, just tried to
do my best at that, and then we were like,
what's the weird, suspicious thing that these lovely people are doing?
(11:32):
And that was the Himne was actually a true character
trait of a roommate of my tail Borges who can
tell you more about it. But in the shower, no,
I think it kept it in the kitchen, so it
was weird, you know, but still like.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
It was this.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
These these hormones are hundreds and hundreds of dollars, right,
They're very expensive. The pig is fed only acorns only
from the this this field in Portugal or for Abisa
or wherever it is in Spain. They feed them and
they fattened them, and they love them and then they
eat them. And so it was hanging for a long time.
(12:10):
And his friend had this knife, like his own knife,
and he'd go over there and say, cut off a
piece of the hormone and eat it. It was just
always there and always just this odd quirk that this
guy always had a hormone hanging like like he was
in a Spanish restaurant. And so we're like, wouldn't it
be real weird if it was in the bathroom like
something that just tells me something is weird about it.
(12:31):
And there there was, you know, for time, there was
a lot cut where they're in the bathroom with the ham.
More but you only need so much ham in the bathroom.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Yeah, fair Well, sometimes you want to take a shower.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
No, that's not the shower bathroom, that's the ham back right, right, Let's.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Keep it moist, you know the city, and that's great.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Import that's a great point.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
A nice moist toilet ham Jesus.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
After the break, we'll hear from two of the three
members of the Sauce family, Daphne Rubin Vega who plays Enes,
and Lillian Rebello, who plays her daughter.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Anna, welcome back. In episode two we meet some neighbors
that we'd never seen, and that means new cast.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
I love new Cast. And as expected, both Lilli and Rebella,
who plays Anna, and Daphne rubin Vega who plays Yez,
her mom, were both fans of Only Murderers before they
even auditioned.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Of course they were, of course, but it's so.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Fun to think about being a fan of a show,
seeing New Arconia through your TV screen and then walking
into it, like, that's so funny, right, here's Daphne.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
I was.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
I was because one of my godsons is Michael Cyril Creighton.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
I knew him before he was anybody, before he had
those three names like me and so I love Michael,
and so I watched the show and I was like,
oh my god, this show is you know, and.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
He is so fun in it. He is so fun.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Yeah, he's mouthless, he's just mamless.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
So then is that how you got involved in the show.
Is it with Michael or do you know John Hoffin.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
I didn't sleep with Michael. No, I got my job.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Legitimately, I got a call, I had an audition. I
had to zoom because usually you go on tape and
it's completely anti septic. Who knows what, right, It's just
like yeah, And so the opportunity to actually present in
front of humans, albeit on the other side, was great.
Speaker 7 (14:52):
We can assume we're going to learn a lot more
about Inez this season, but maybe you could tell us
a little bit about Inez herself and chance.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Who is she?
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Well, she's a mother and she is a devoted wife,
but she does have this hall pass and I think that,
you know, she uses that that fantasy to you know,
fuel her relationship with you know, Alphonso, who's her you know,
ride or die wing Man till death, you know. You know,
(15:27):
I think our love language is also cooking and making sauce,
you know, so.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
We do that.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
What kind of sauce are you making?
Speaker 4 (15:35):
What kind of sauce are you thinking?
Speaker 3 (15:39):
We make all sauce, any sauce you think we make,
and we make it with love, And.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Ask me what that is. I don't don't ask me
what that is?
Speaker 1 (15:57):
What is? Yeah, you've been perfecting the craft, the sauce
craft for a long time.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
All sauces.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Sauce, Yes, any sauce, all sauce, any sauce.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
And our fantasy is to be able to do that
in perpetuity, you know, throughout the entire universe.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
That's what it is, Forever sauce.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (16:24):
Years of living across from your wife's crush must be hard, huh, especially.
Speaker 8 (16:28):
When your wife puts on a push up brought a cook.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Can I help it? If but Alost likes to watch
me make sauce, I need.
Speaker 8 (16:34):
To move out.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
The person who will inherit the Sauce Empire is Anna Olivera,
daughter of Venez and Alfonso, the youngest member of the
Sauce family, played by Lillian Robello. Here she is.
Speaker 8 (16:45):
Well, I play Anna Olivea.
Speaker 9 (16:47):
When I first got the part or auditioned for it,
I thought her last name was Sauce because she was
Anna Sauce.
Speaker 8 (16:57):
And like Daphne and I Daphne.
Speaker 9 (16:59):
Rubin Vega plays my mom, which is a dream.
Speaker 8 (17:02):
But she and I both thought that they pronounced it
like saush.
Speaker 9 (17:06):
We were like, oh, this is like the Souris fan movie.
Speaker 8 (17:10):
But no, they changed.
Speaker 9 (17:11):
They gave us our full name when we got on
set finally, which was awesome, and we were like, Okay,
this makes a lot of sense because all of our
sauce jars say oliveda, so our family makes sauce for
a living. We live in the West Tower, we're the Westies.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
How old is your character?
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Do you know?
Speaker 8 (17:31):
We were trying to figure it out.
Speaker 9 (17:32):
It's a good cue. I think that she's probably nineteen
or twenty. There is mention that she wants to move
out of the house, and there's no mention of like school.
Speaker 8 (17:45):
But I don't drink alcohol. If you notice, if you're.
Speaker 9 (17:48):
Watching when we're at the round table, I'm not drinking alcohol.
So playing oh Hell, Yes, when we're playing oh Hell,
I've got some water or some juice in every shot
you see of me drinking.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Come on, come on, let's get started. You're gonna love
this game, but be careful.
Speaker 6 (18:05):
It's a little dangerous.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Had you played Ohell before?
Speaker 9 (18:12):
No, I actually had no idea that it was a
real game.
Speaker 8 (18:16):
We thought it was made up. I thought I was
gonna get.
Speaker 9 (18:18):
On set and they were gonna be like, Okay, let's
play some game, and you know we've got being credit.
Like Martin Short was in that scene, and I thought
he was just gonna be like, Okay, this is a
random new rule, and so I was so game for whatever,
and then I got a text the night before that
was like, hey, just.
Speaker 8 (18:35):
So you know, this is a real game.
Speaker 9 (18:36):
This is a link to the rules, so that I'm
studying the night before I got on set, I'm studying
for this game. And it ended up being so so fun.
It's it's similar to a couple different games. I think
the most similar that I've ever played is like Rummy
five hundred.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
It seems like no one knew how to play Ohell
before filming this show, like you never heard of it? Right, Rather, no,
I never heard of it. But just because no one's
ever heard of it does not mean we shouldn't all
be playing it. So if you want to learn how
to play Ohell, check the show notes, because we're going
to put a link to a website that will show
you everything you need to know. Here's more from Daphnie
(19:16):
Rubin Pica.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
I thought, oh hew, it was a fake game, and
so you know, they were like, okay, learn how to
play well, and I thought that meant like fantasize about
what oh Hell would be, you know, like create a
game called o'how.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
There's no real game called.
Speaker 7 (19:36):
O'hell, but shooting that scene with all when that's like
a room full of fun people.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
First of all, it was actors acting like we're having fun,
like like you just you just have fucking fun, right
like it was. It was probably one in my first day,
my first day working with Marty and Selena, and I
worked a little bit with Richard and I know Richard
way back, and it was just geeking out it being
(20:05):
in the place to be. You know, I'm a New
Yorker and only Murders is the place to be with
these amazing people. And I love John Hoffman. The whole
set was wonderful, and you know, learning how to play
this game, acting like I knew how to play.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Did anyone else know how to play the game?
Speaker 4 (20:26):
I don't think so, except for Marty.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Marty of course used to play it often with you know,
the President of the United States.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
And you know, Steven Spielberg. Yeah, I know, they used
to have oh Hall parties. He was tolerating the fact
that we all sucked, you know.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
And that he actually probably we couldn't actually play the game.
It must have been terrible for him, And I'm sorry Marty,
I'll learn, but yeah, it was a great thing.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Lillian Robello did learn how to play, and she says
she even plays it with friends and family still to
this day.
Speaker 8 (20:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (21:00):
I have forced some friends and family to learn the game,
and I think they like it.
Speaker 8 (21:05):
So it's fun. It's you have to get the hang
of it.
Speaker 9 (21:09):
So I think once you start to understand the rules
and you've played a couple times, then it's really fun.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Then you can achieve, Then you can achieve.
Speaker 8 (21:19):
You can achieve. It's a super fun game.
Speaker 9 (21:22):
I would recommend you could totally learn that.
Speaker 8 (21:24):
It's not as hard as it seems.
Speaker 9 (21:27):
The first day on set, I remember it was I
think my second day on set, but Martin Short was
there and he was like, oh, do you guys know
how to play?
Speaker 8 (21:35):
And we're like sitting around in the green room, which.
Speaker 9 (21:37):
Was actually Oliver's apartment, and then we're moving over to
set and playing these games and we're all learning it
as we're playing too.
Speaker 8 (21:46):
I was like, this is a surreal moment.
Speaker 9 (21:48):
I'm sort of teaching me how to play a card
game right now, And Selena Gomez and Richard Kind and
we're all just sitting there. It was really fun because
we did have to get a bunch of clips of
us playing, and so there were moments where we were
at actually just playing this game and they were just
filming us through that, which was really awesome in character.
Speaker 8 (22:04):
Obviously.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Yeah, was that your first day that that's seen the
card game scene?
Speaker 9 (22:08):
That was my second day? My first day was just
like our first shot.
Speaker 7 (22:12):
That I think you're referring to, the shot where you
guys are just kind of like looking at the camera
and stirring.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Saw.
Speaker 8 (22:21):
Yes, and that was real sauce.
Speaker 9 (22:23):
I bet it was real bubbling sauce on a stove,
and it smelled like sauce in the apartment. It was
there was a smellscape. Wow, it was really immersive experience.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
It sounds like it. So I assume we're going to
learn more about the sauce, the lore, the sauce lore
as the season progresses. Is that is that a fair assumption?
Speaker 8 (22:43):
For sure?
Speaker 9 (22:43):
You're for sure going to learn more about the sauce
lore and the ingredients of the sauce, especially those that
are imported.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
So what are you most excited about for once the
season starts getting released and the episode start going out
and maybe your friends and families start getting to see
you in the show. Are you what are you most
excited about for that time.
Speaker 9 (23:06):
I'm excited to watch because I haven't seen it, and
then I'm excited to watch other people watch.
Speaker 8 (23:11):
Because I do know what's going to happen.
Speaker 9 (23:13):
For the most part, they did a good job of
keeping secrets from us, even but yeah, I'm just really
excited to watch people watch the twist and turns. This
is my first TV appearance, so I'm so excited to
watch everyone and just share it with, you know, the
people who've gotten here.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
You know.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
The most the most amazing stuff was just hearing the
stories that, you know, watching Steve do magic tricks while
we were waiting for them to set up a shot,
was you know, unforgettable.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
What kind of magic trick is he doing?
Speaker 3 (23:50):
I mean he was ripping up cards and putting them
back together backwards and side out, showing the fold but
folding them, asking another person to hold them, and then
taking it back like right underneath our noses. Wow, I
had no idea manifesting manifesting.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
I knew we played music, but also also magic.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
He is he is a renaissance man, renaissance renaissance man.
For sure, to.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Be in the room watching like all these superlative comedians desparring,
you know, like that that delightful spar and everybody getting
in on it, and somebody going like, look at what
I got, and I got this. Yeah, I just sat
(24:41):
back and was like, Okay, don't even try to be funny,
don't even try it.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
And it was a good lesson.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Yeah, did you try it once to be funny?
Speaker 10 (24:58):
Yeah, no, I'm not going to try. That would really
be embarrassing. I'm sure that's been said before. But to
be in a room with all those motherfuckers, yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Daphne might have been a little scared to perform in
front of that really stacked cast, but we are her
biggest fans, huge fans. She was in the original Broadway
cast for Rent. She was the voice of Dolores Roach
on that Gimblet show.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
The Horror of Dolores Roach, great podcast.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
And that was actually like a one man show that
she had developed with a front.
Speaker 7 (25:38):
She's so good. A guess Pajama Party. Just go check
it out, go listen to Pajama Party.
Speaker 8 (25:45):
She's so great.
Speaker 9 (25:46):
She's an icon though, she's got everything. Yeah, she's like
and she played my mom on screen. But she really
was just like such a wonderful presence to have on
set too, Like she was very motherly and she would
like but like the cool aunt way, like she would
be like, oh my god. And she had like these
crazy outfits with these like furry green heels and she'd be.
Speaker 8 (26:07):
Like walking around in them.
Speaker 9 (26:10):
And she always had like crazy They all had crazy stories.
I think my first day on set, the first day
where everyone was there, I think I blacked out, Like
I don't know what happened, because I was just absorbing
everything everyone was saying, Like Daphne was telling me funny stories.
And then like Martin Short and Richard Kind were just
like riffing off of one another.
Speaker 8 (26:32):
And Desmond.
Speaker 9 (26:34):
Desmond is like like a sneaky one liner, like every
once in a while he would just drop a joke
that would be so funny, and he like ad lived
every once in a while they were so funny.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Isn't that a person? Don't be ridiculous.
Speaker 7 (26:59):
It's a ham imported from Portugal, very special.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
It's a ham, Mabel, It's a ham in the shower.
It definitely seems like the Sauce family is up to something.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
But do they know who kills As.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
I'm not sure if I remember.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
That's a good answer.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Love it, love it.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
That's good.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Oh, I have I have something for you during this season.
I urge you to spy for the Panamanian flag.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Okay, we're very gullible.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
We really are.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
We're looking for everything, you know.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
After the break, we're back again with the writer of
episode to Kristin Newman to talk about Sas.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Our beloved Sas and what.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
To do with her ashes, plus the return of Jam and.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
The inspira for psychosexual manipulation. Welcome back. We're talking again
with Kristin Newman. She is the writer of episode two.
Speaker 7 (28:19):
This episode opens up with the Saz is like documentary
like monologue piece, right, how much of that was written?
Speaker 9 (28:28):
Like?
Speaker 7 (28:28):
How is there a whole documentary out there that she
recorded that you wrote?
Speaker 5 (28:33):
No, I think what's in there is exactly like a
first draft of that. We loved getting to hear her
talk about her history, and I loved the footage of
her as a little girl, you know, with her dad
jumping and learning how to fall. It was I don't
know that was that was one of those just sort
of like that cold open, just kind of came in
(28:55):
a wave in terms of the images of her talking
about learning how to fall and playing with danger. And
I started the whole kind of story breaking process with
the image of Charles just holding his hands up covered
in ashes and make suring what does Steve Martin do
with that? And like it was so easy to picture
him both heartbroken but also funny, trying to use his
(29:16):
elbows in his feet and just trying to how do
I what do I do?
Speaker 1 (29:21):
I know what I'll do a washer into a bowl.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
Great plan.
Speaker 6 (29:25):
Then I can take the water and ashes, pour him
into something, let the water evaporate.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Maybe a Mason jar. Oh, homie, cozy jar.
Speaker 6 (29:35):
I love Mason.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
We will go get that for you.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
Now, yes, you know, And it was it just felt
very easy to picture him in that moment. So the
whole cold kind of came as a piece and always
stayed that way. A lot of them, a lot of
everything has always worked and reworked and reworked, but that
kind of just came.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Yeah, it's so tragic and it's so funny.
Speaker 7 (29:55):
Yeah, it's such a great scene with him trying to
his bright eye idea of putting it into a bowl
and then dumping it into the jar and so sad,
so sad.
Speaker 5 (30:05):
Yeah, it's really the whole season is really a Charles
and SaaS love story, and I think it really really
pays off mosh Leigh at the end.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Oh, I'm glad to hear that. Yeah, we're about as
excited as we could ever be because we're going to
talk to Jane Lynch for the podcast this season. Yeah,
and we are so thrilled. We're such big fans of hers.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Oh can that wait?
Speaker 5 (30:27):
She's the greatest. She rented a house of mine. That's
how we first met. Really, she read what yeah, my
single girl house. I moved out and she needed a
place to live for maybe a year and a half
or so in between places, and so she was there
and that's how we made friends. And then I was
on this show and we were talking about it would
be a good Steve Stunt double. It was this amazing thing.
That was you, that was me.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
We have you to thank for that.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
Thanks so as I recall, I don't know it was
COVID twenty twenty, you know, June twenty twenty, so I
don't really remember. It might have totally been from they else.
I have no idea.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
I did her.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
I did go like, do you want to play sas
attacking Steve Stunt double and she's like, yes, I'm in.
I love it.
Speaker 7 (31:07):
Oh she's she's so much fun throughout all the seasons.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
A national treasure, national treasure.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Absolutely she is.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
And she really again hits it out of the park
by the end of the season. Emotionally, she's so good
in it.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
I can't wait. I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Speaking of that, actually, uh, we get another talking ghost
this season, which maybe is that every season. I'm not
I'd have to think back, but like we were talking
about Saz coming back as herself as a ghost, and
we were thinking like, is that because there's always a
talking ghost and only murders or is that because we
just we can't get enough of Saz PATTACKI I don't know,
(31:46):
what do you think?
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Yeah? What was the decision process? How did it go?
Speaker 5 (31:50):
It was really mostly just because you know, it was
Charles's big emotional story is kind of coming to a
deeper understanding of who she was to him, because when
we first meet her in season one, he's annoyed she
shows up right, She's kind of like, oh good, I
have to see her she's in town, right, and then
(32:10):
over the season she's been around more and really been
there to give him advice and to really know him,
to go like, this is how you always are, this
is what you're like, think about this. You know, she's
been there for him at these key moments for advice,
and we really wanted it to be a bit of
a love story to stunt people too. You know, we'll
(32:30):
meet more stunt people in this season coming up and
go into her world of stunts more as we look
into this and thinking about somebody who falls for you
your whole career, you know, who takes all the hits
for you, and then having Steve really realize, Charles really
realizes in this season how much she did for him
(32:52):
in so many departments and that it wasn't just a
stunt double. That actually he did lose his best friend.
And so there's you know, you want to let him
work that through with her and see how she supports
him and then maybe in the end see how he's
able to do it even without her, and so yeah,
you kind of needed her for that. But yeah, Jane
(33:13):
did say it, thank you for killing me. I got
so much more screen time.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
Hey, Hey, don't sw.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Me being dead as the least to your problem.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Most also, get your hands off my boobs.
Speaker 7 (33:27):
Yeah, John teased, I remember last season when we spoke
with them that we probably get to see more of
her than we ever would, So it looks like it's happening.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
It's great.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
Yeah, yeah, it's kind of Usually, you know, it's hard
for most actors when you get killed on a show,
but on this show, it's really good news.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
You get off the other person we get back this
this episode and episode two that we were so excited
to see was Jan played by Amy Ryan.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Right, we can't avoid that.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
We cannot talk about that. So can you tell us
about bringing Jan back for that episode?
Speaker 5 (33:57):
And yeah, I mean you just want her back because
she's so much fun. And yeah, we had alluded to
Saz being in a relationship with her last year, and
she'd kind of had a moment where she said, I
really probably got to break.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
Up with her.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
And so when we were thinking about who are the
suspects that they should go to when they should think about,
you know, it felt like somebody that the audience would
be thinking about, even though she was in jail, And
so it made us laugh that she was able to
easily kind of get out and I was smart and
you know she were like she definitely. Oh god, what
(34:33):
was the show where Ben Stiller directs? And it's the
two guys break out of prison, Escape at Dana Mora.
It's a fantastic watch. You have to watch. It's only
seven episodes and it's amazing. But anyway, so when we
were when we were looking at bringing jan back, we
thought a lot about Escape a Dana Mora and the
(34:53):
way that they manipulated Trisha Arkat's character as the guard
to get out, and we're like, jan Da finitely did that.
Definitely could seduce the guard and get out and then
probably kill them and get Brain on her.
Speaker 6 (35:06):
Sure back, stay back, How did you get out of prison?
Speaker 5 (35:12):
Course has taught me and psycho sexual manipulation. I won't
bore or arouse you with the deets.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Well thanks, yeah, security.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Brain as you do? Yeah yeah, no that.
Speaker 7 (35:26):
When before we started watching the season, we had both like,
let's who who do we think did it?
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Just to get it out.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
There nose after episode one?
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Okay, and my guess was.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Was we were both pretty sure.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
So it's crazy to see her in two. So immediately
not you guys are onto it.
Speaker 5 (35:43):
Yeah, I'm so glad because, yeah, there was there was
a lot of concern that that that's what everybody would
immediately think. So we wanted to make that go away.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Hyeah, mission accomplished.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Okay, So now that Jan is no longer a suspect,
or at least.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
It seems like she's no longer suspect.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Well, who's your guest?
Speaker 1 (36:02):
My guess? Yeah, maybe one of the Westies.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Maybe someone with the movie.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Someone, oh, someone involved in the movie. Yeah, or someone
in the building, another like neighbor that we've never met before.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Perhaps possibly sure, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
I felt like after episode one, I was so sure
that Jan was going to be somehow responsible for this,
But now it feels like she's not.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
No, I think she's in the clear.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Oh, let's also talk about East Eggs in the opening credits,
because you forgot to mention them in episode one, and
I love the.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Look that all the time, I don't track them, you
do every time.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
So episode one, did you catch it?
Speaker 5 (36:36):
No?
Speaker 1 (36:37):
It was a plain shadow. Okay, episode two, I don't know.
It was the hanging him one leg?
Speaker 7 (36:42):
Oh gosh, all right, I like luky, I'm only bibo,
right is that's I think so? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (36:48):
All right, later this week, come back for part two
of our coverage of episode two, Oh.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
My gosh, on Friday.
Speaker 7 (36:56):
It's going to be an incredible conversation with two incredible people.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Number one, John Hoffman.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
John Hoffman, you know him, you love him, showrunner, co creator.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
All around mench mench writer.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Of episode one, director of episodes one and two, et cetera,
et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
And the amazing Amy Ryan will be joining us, Jan herself.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Jan herself. And you realize, the last time we talked
to her, Ryan, we didn't even know she was a murderer.
You know, we just thought she was a kinkkeep as soon.
Speaker 7 (37:25):
As season one when we talked to her, we had
no idea we are talking to the murderer.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
It's so wild, and now it feels like it's old news. Yeah,
you know, she went to prison, then she escaped prison.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
And now she's wandering loose with security guard brains.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
It's wild.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Okay, that's the next episode in just a few days.
Thanks for listening, See you soon.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
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Speaker 2 (38:13):
Only Murders in the Building Podcast is a production of
straw Hut Media, hosted and produced by Ryan Tillotson and
Maggie Bolls. Associate producer is Stephen Markley. Original music by
Kyle Merritt and Only Murders in the Building theme music
by Siddartha Kosla. Assistant editor is Daniel Ferreira. Production assistant
is Carolyn Mendoza. Thank you to.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Kristin Newman, Daphne Rubin Vega, and Lillian Robello for talking
with us this week.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
And a big big thanks as always too, John Hoffman
and the entire Hulu team.
Speaker 5 (38:40):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Bye.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Mabel and Oliver are playing Oh Hell Around the Table
with Richard Kine with Richard kainan.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Stinky stink.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
I like this stinky. It's so affectionate stinky. I kind
of like makes it more cute.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
We were thinking maybe there's going to be some secret
singing singing in this season, but maybe not, because we
also know you had oh my gosh, another musical career
which we were listening to.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Listening to your music party right before.
Speaker 5 (39:22):
An Ouch again, we were we were loving it.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
But I'm guessing we're not going to hear you sing
this season Murders or can you tell us.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
I'm going to actually be reprising my pajama party role
on Only Murder Perfect.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
That's the answer we're looking for.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
You know, some people have porn in in their background.
I have pajama party
Strawt Media.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
What kind of sauce are you making?
Speaker 3 (00:04):
What kind of sauce are you think you We make
all sauce, any sauce we think we may.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
And we make it with love.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Hello, and welcome back to the Only Murders in the
Building Podcast. I'm Maggie Bowles and I'm Ryan Tillotson, and
we are looking behind the scenes, mining for clues as
we meet the cast and creators of the Hulu original
series Only Murders in the Building.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Today on the show, we're talking all about episode two.
We'll hear from writer Kristin Newman about her contribution to
the casting of Saspataki and the origins of the West Tower.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
We'll also hear from two members of the Sauce family,
Daphne Rubin Vega who plays Us and Lillian Rabello, who
plays her daughter Anna.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
At first, a quick recap listeners.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Be aware spoilers for episode two lie ahead, So if
you have a watched the episode yet, hit the pause button,
go back and watch it and come right back.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Recap Episode two, Gates of Heaven.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
We open up on documentary footage of Saz Pataki. Charles
still has Saz's ashes all over his hands, and while
he's carefully funneling her ashes into a mason jar, the
ghost of Sas appears.
Speaker 5 (01:26):
Me being dead as a least to your Problemos also,
get your hands off my boob.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
We learn about some possible suspects across the courtyard at
the Arconia in the West Tower, the Westies. All right,
Charles tell us about the Westies. There's stink Eyed Joe,
the Sauce family, Christmas all the Time guy, and an
apartment that always has the blinds down.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Now that they think Charles might have been the target,
they decide he should stay home to be safe while
Mabel and Oliver go over the West Tower and investigate
the new suspects.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Mabel and Oliver meet Stink Eye Joe aka Vince Fish,
and he brings them over to the apartment of the
Sauce family, where we meet Inez Alfonso and their daughter Anna.
Inez has a major crush on Charles.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
He's her haul that while Charles is hidden away safe
at home and waiting on hold with the police, Jan
sneaks out of prison and into his apartment through the
closet and the secret passageways, and she is worried about
Sas too.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Here she's real. While Oliver and Mabel and the Westies
play Oh Hell, we discover they have a giant hemone
roped up in the shower from Portugal. It's a ham, Mabel,
it's a ham in the shower. We learn that the
blind's apartment is dood Enough, the name from SAS's sticky note,
(02:42):
and he lives in Portugal.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Some numbers from SAS's notes open up the lock box
on Doudanov's door, and those numbers upside down spell out.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Oh hell, seven seven three four to four zero.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Inside that apartment, Oliver and Mabel find a ham radio,
a window that opens, a footprint on the win, and
a pig in the bathtub.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
There's some aggressive knocking at the door. When they finally
open it, there's nobody there, and the pig escapes. The
luminol arrives, and so does Detective Williams. She's worried about them,
so they spray the luminol and they see that Saz
wrote a note in her blood on the floor. It
says tap in, that's right.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
And it's a message to Charles. Charles, do you know
what that means?
Speaker 5 (03:26):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (03:28):
I do.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
We're not investigating Saz's murder.
Speaker 6 (03:31):
Any we're investigating mine.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Welcome back on with the show. First up, writer of
episode two, christ and Newman.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Thank you so much for being here.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Kristin Newman, you weren't able to be part of season three.
Getting back to season four, jumping in, how was it?
Speaker 5 (03:57):
I mean it was just an amazing embarrassment of riches
in terms of the cash that snuck on in season three,
in terms of your Merril's, your palls. And then we
came back and there was an actor's strike that you know,
was had just ended, and so all these movie stars
were suddenly available because everybody's movies had gotten canceled, and
(04:19):
so everybody wanted to be in it. And so it
was so exciting to just come into a writer's room
and every day John up and walk in with another
incoming phone call from some giant movie star that wanted
to do the show. It was amazing.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Okay, is that how that's happening?
Speaker 7 (04:33):
It's just like John's like working these deals or something
like in the background while writing's happening, or like you
don't have any idea like as you're going.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Yeah, basically, after you have Meryl Street, basically everybody wants
to do your TV show, And as a viewer of
season three instead of a writer, it was this like
magic trick to watch them do, to like, oh my god,
who is next? And there really aren't other shows that
get to do that, And so this year it was
wonderful because the phones were really ringing with giant celebrities
(05:06):
who wanted to do the show. But of course they're
very busy people, and so it takes some time to
write a show, and then all of a sudden, everybody's
got a big movie they've been offered or something else
to do, and so it was a lot of writing
for one giant movie star and then you rewrite it
for a different giant movie star, and things change and
awards come, and so it was. It was not an
(05:28):
easy process. But then looking at the season, having just
watched all of the episodes for season four, you really
get that feeling sort of like after you have a
baby and you can't imagine any other child could ever
have been the child you were supposed to have. You
watch these amazing people and you're like, nobody else could
have played this role. It's amazing, how do we ever
(05:49):
imagine anybody else doing it? So the lucky, lucky, lucky
collection of people we got this year was such a
joy to write for. It was amazing.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
It was something we were thinking about in episode too,
because like, we meet stink Eyed Joe in episode two
and it feels like no one could have played that
part except for Richard Kind, right.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
Richard Kind was the exception. Okay, when we brought up
stink Eyed Joe. I think we created stink Eyed Joe
for Richard Kind.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
And his name.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
He didn't even get the name against Fish until very late.
His name was Richard Kind. We called him Richard Kynd.
That was his character name. That was how we pitched
dialogue was in Richard Kine's very distinctive voice. Kind of
an easy, easy impersonation to do. He was always Vince
Fish and we got him, thank god, because that would
(06:41):
have been hard to ship years. Yeah, and he feels
so much like he lives in the wallpaper of the Arconia.
We're like, how did we ever do this shoe without him?
He's like the personification of only murders in the building.
Somehow it's perfect.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
It's the face podcasters for the East Tower.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
So, speaking of stink Guy Joe, Episode two is where
we meet the Westies as they're called. Can you tell
us about having the responsibility of introducing viewers to this
new wing of the Arconia and its residents.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Yeah, that was a really fun, I think, very early
discovery when we just started with what happens in almost
every season of the TV show is that something dramatic
happens at the end of the season and the details
of what happened have not been worked out yet, and
then the next season we figure out, Okay, what do
you think happened there? And so starting with just what
(07:40):
we knew, which is that a bullet came through the
window from clearly across the way, all of a sudden,
we're like, who lives over there? And what if it
was this completely other side of the building. And you know,
there was this very disturbing trend and a lot of
fancy buildings in New York City that would be also
(08:01):
forced to have rank controlled units that would come with it.
That were they really call They had a separate entrance
and they called it the poor door. That was an
offensive thing that happened quite for quite some time. And
so it kind of started with that concept of this
other group of people with this other entrance, and for
(08:21):
a while we had a different doorman down there that
we called Wester the West Side Leicester. Then they didn't
even get a doorman in the end. But yeah, thinking
of who is this other world of people was exciting
to get to open up.
Speaker 6 (08:37):
There's stink eyed Joe, it seems hostile, always looking over here,
giving me this stink eye. There's the Sauce family, always
stirring some kind of sauce at all hours. Looking over here.
(08:58):
Three people a lot, the pots always stirring.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Are they stirring up a nice batch o murder?
Speaker 6 (09:07):
There's the oddest one of all Christmas all the time
guy had someome guy always working out, never takes down
as Christmas decorations. Where's a Christmas sweater all year round?
That's most of them.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
It just kind of came from the initial conversation about
like the wonder that is New York windows, right, and
like looking in to a wall of apartments and getting
to see all these people and sometimes kind of forgetting
that they also can just look back and also see you.
And this like very weird intimate look into people's lives
(09:41):
that you have when you live in these apartment buildings.
And sort of forget that they're looking back and all
of the judgments you might make about them. It's fun
to go to the other side of the building and
here Vin's talking about that weirdo who's always staring over here.
You know, he's always also made his own assumptions about
them on the other side. And and they all have their
(10:02):
own little gossip about the Easties as well. Right, So
it started about that, and so what are you watching
people doing? And we're just like, you know, if they're
just always staring and stirring, staring and stirring, its kind
of weird and creepy and like just a lot of sauce,
too much sauce, Like suspicious that they're always making sauce,
and you know, and so yeah, the Sauce Family was born,
(10:25):
the Sauce family.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
So something that's really fun to me about meeting the
Westies is they have their own little group kind of
like uh, we have on the east side of the Arconia,
and they have this like tradition of playing this card
game oh hell, and they're going to the bathroom to
get some of the good stuff and then coming back out.
Can you tell us about that scene and about that game.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Yeah, I mean, you know what I know because we
all heard about it for the first time from Tom Hoffman. Well,
I imagine told you that he learned how to play
it from Marty, and Marty had great stories about learn
I mean it from Steve and Spielberg. This is just
who hangs out with these people and they all have
these very amazing card games on planes, you know, with
(11:09):
famous people. But it's all very sweet and charming and
they love this game. So then I had to write
the scene. I have no idea how to play a
hell so I don't yet, no no one ever played it,
so I don't know. I just tried, just tried to
do my best at that, and then we were like,
what's the weird, suspicious thing that these lovely people are doing?
(11:32):
And that was the Himne was actually a true character
trait of a roommate of my tail Borges who can
tell you more about it. But in the shower, no,
I think it kept it in the kitchen, so it
was weird, you know, but still like.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
It was this.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
These these hormones are hundreds and hundreds of dollars, right,
They're very expensive. The pig is fed only acorns only
from the this this field in Portugal or for Abisa
or wherever it is in Spain. They feed them and
they fattened them, and they love them and then they
eat them. And so it was hanging for a long time.
(12:10):
And his friend had this knife, like his own knife,
and he'd go over there and say, cut off a
piece of the hormone and eat it. It was just
always there and always just this odd quirk that this
guy always had a hormone hanging like like he was
in a Spanish restaurant. And so we're like, wouldn't it
be real weird if it was in the bathroom like
something that just tells me something is weird about it.
(12:31):
And there there was, you know, for time, there was
a lot cut where they're in the bathroom with the ham.
More but you only need so much ham in the bathroom.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Yeah, fair Well, sometimes you want to take a shower.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
No, that's not the shower bathroom, that's the ham back right, right, Let's.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Keep it moist, you know the city, and that's great.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Import that's a great point.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
A nice moist toilet ham Jesus.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
After the break, we'll hear from two of the three
members of the Sauce family, Daphne Rubin Vega who plays Enes,
and Lillian Rebello, who plays her daughter.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Anna, welcome back. In episode two we meet some neighbors
that we'd never seen, and that means new cast.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
I love new Cast. And as expected, both Lilli and Rebella,
who plays Anna, and Daphne rubin Vega who plays Yez,
her mom, were both fans of Only Murderers before they
even auditioned.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Of course they were, of course, but it's so.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Fun to think about being a fan of a show,
seeing New Arconia through your TV screen and then walking
into it, like, that's so funny, right, here's Daphne.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
I was.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
I was because one of my godsons is Michael Cyril Creighton.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
I knew him before he was anybody, before he had
those three names like me and so I love Michael,
and so I watched the show and I was like,
oh my god, this show is you know, and.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
He is so fun in it. He is so fun.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Yeah, he's mouthless, he's just mamless.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
So then is that how you got involved in the show.
Is it with Michael or do you know John Hoffin.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
I didn't sleep with Michael. No, I got my job.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Legitimately, I got a call, I had an audition. I
had to zoom because usually you go on tape and
it's completely anti septic. Who knows what, right, It's just
like yeah, And so the opportunity to actually present in
front of humans, albeit on the other side, was great.
Speaker 7 (14:52):
We can assume we're going to learn a lot more
about Inez this season, but maybe you could tell us
a little bit about Inez herself and chance.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Who is she?
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Well, she's a mother and she is a devoted wife,
but she does have this hall pass and I think that,
you know, she uses that that fantasy to you know,
fuel her relationship with you know, Alphonso, who's her you know,
ride or die wing Man till death, you know. You know,
(15:27):
I think our love language is also cooking and making sauce,
you know, so.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
We do that.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
What kind of sauce are you making?
Speaker 4 (15:35):
What kind of sauce are you thinking?
Speaker 3 (15:39):
We make all sauce, any sauce you think we make,
and we make it with love, And.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Ask me what that is. I don't don't ask me
what that is?
Speaker 1 (15:57):
What is? Yeah, you've been perfecting the craft, the sauce
craft for a long time.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
All sauces.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Sauce, Yes, any sauce, all sauce, any sauce.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
And our fantasy is to be able to do that
in perpetuity, you know, throughout the entire universe.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
That's what it is, Forever sauce.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (16:24):
Years of living across from your wife's crush must be hard, huh, especially.
Speaker 8 (16:28):
When your wife puts on a push up brought a cook.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Can I help it? If but Alost likes to watch
me make sauce, I need.
Speaker 8 (16:34):
To move out.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
The person who will inherit the Sauce Empire is Anna Olivera,
daughter of Venez and Alfonso, the youngest member of the
Sauce family, played by Lillian Robello. Here she is.
Speaker 8 (16:45):
Well, I play Anna Olivea.
Speaker 9 (16:47):
When I first got the part or auditioned for it,
I thought her last name was Sauce because she was
Anna Sauce.
Speaker 8 (16:57):
And like Daphne and I Daphne.
Speaker 9 (16:59):
Rubin Vega plays my mom, which is a dream.
Speaker 8 (17:02):
But she and I both thought that they pronounced it
like saush.
Speaker 9 (17:06):
We were like, oh, this is like the Souris fan movie.
Speaker 8 (17:10):
But no, they changed.
Speaker 9 (17:11):
They gave us our full name when we got on
set finally, which was awesome, and we were like, Okay,
this makes a lot of sense because all of our
sauce jars say oliveda, so our family makes sauce for
a living. We live in the West Tower, we're the Westies.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
How old is your character?
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Do you know?
Speaker 8 (17:31):
We were trying to figure it out.
Speaker 9 (17:32):
It's a good cue. I think that she's probably nineteen
or twenty. There is mention that she wants to move
out of the house, and there's no mention of like school.
Speaker 8 (17:45):
But I don't drink alcohol. If you notice, if you're.
Speaker 9 (17:48):
Watching when we're at the round table, I'm not drinking alcohol.
So playing oh Hell, Yes, when we're playing oh Hell,
I've got some water or some juice in every shot
you see of me drinking.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Come on, come on, let's get started. You're gonna love
this game, but be careful.
Speaker 6 (18:05):
It's a little dangerous.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Had you played Ohell before?
Speaker 9 (18:12):
No, I actually had no idea that it was a
real game.
Speaker 8 (18:16):
We thought it was made up. I thought I was
gonna get.
Speaker 9 (18:18):
On set and they were gonna be like, Okay, let's
play some game, and you know we've got being credit.
Like Martin Short was in that scene, and I thought
he was just gonna be like, Okay, this is a
random new rule, and so I was so game for whatever,
and then I got a text the night before that
was like, hey, just.
Speaker 8 (18:35):
So you know, this is a real game.
Speaker 9 (18:36):
This is a link to the rules, so that I'm
studying the night before I got on set, I'm studying
for this game. And it ended up being so so fun.
It's it's similar to a couple different games. I think
the most similar that I've ever played is like Rummy
five hundred.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
It seems like no one knew how to play Ohell
before filming this show, like you never heard of it? Right, Rather, no,
I never heard of it. But just because no one's
ever heard of it does not mean we shouldn't all
be playing it. So if you want to learn how
to play Ohell, check the show notes, because we're going
to put a link to a website that will show
you everything you need to know. Here's more from Daphnie
(19:16):
Rubin Pica.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
I thought, oh hew, it was a fake game, and
so you know, they were like, okay, learn how to
play well, and I thought that meant like fantasize about
what oh Hell would be, you know, like create a
game called o'how.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
There's no real game called.
Speaker 7 (19:36):
O'hell, but shooting that scene with all when that's like
a room full of fun people.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
First of all, it was actors acting like we're having fun,
like like you just you just have fucking fun, right
like it was. It was probably one in my first day,
my first day working with Marty and Selena, and I
worked a little bit with Richard and I know Richard
way back, and it was just geeking out it being
(20:05):
in the place to be. You know, I'm a New
Yorker and only Murders is the place to be with
these amazing people. And I love John Hoffman. The whole
set was wonderful, and you know, learning how to play
this game, acting like I knew how to play.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Did anyone else know how to play the game?
Speaker 4 (20:26):
I don't think so, except for Marty.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Marty of course used to play it often with you know,
the President of the United States.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
And you know, Steven Spielberg. Yeah, I know, they used
to have oh Hall parties. He was tolerating the fact
that we all sucked, you know.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
And that he actually probably we couldn't actually play the game.
It must have been terrible for him, And I'm sorry Marty,
I'll learn, but yeah, it was a great thing.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Lillian Robello did learn how to play, and she says
she even plays it with friends and family still to
this day.
Speaker 8 (20:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (21:00):
I have forced some friends and family to learn the game,
and I think they like it.
Speaker 8 (21:05):
So it's fun. It's you have to get the hang
of it.
Speaker 9 (21:09):
So I think once you start to understand the rules
and you've played a couple times, then it's really fun.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Then you can achieve, Then you can achieve.
Speaker 8 (21:19):
You can achieve. It's a super fun game.
Speaker 9 (21:22):
I would recommend you could totally learn that.
Speaker 8 (21:24):
It's not as hard as it seems.
Speaker 9 (21:27):
The first day on set, I remember it was I
think my second day on set, but Martin Short was
there and he was like, oh, do you guys know
how to play?
Speaker 8 (21:35):
And we're like sitting around in the green room, which.
Speaker 9 (21:37):
Was actually Oliver's apartment, and then we're moving over to
set and playing these games and we're all learning it
as we're playing too.
Speaker 8 (21:46):
I was like, this is a surreal moment.
Speaker 9 (21:48):
I'm sort of teaching me how to play a card
game right now, And Selena Gomez and Richard Kind and
we're all just sitting there. It was really fun because
we did have to get a bunch of clips of
us playing, and so there were moments where we were
at actually just playing this game and they were just
filming us through that, which was really awesome in character.
Speaker 8 (22:04):
Obviously.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Yeah, was that your first day that that's seen the
card game scene?
Speaker 9 (22:08):
That was my second day? My first day was just
like our first shot.
Speaker 7 (22:12):
That I think you're referring to, the shot where you
guys are just kind of like looking at the camera
and stirring.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Saw.
Speaker 8 (22:21):
Yes, and that was real sauce.
Speaker 9 (22:23):
I bet it was real bubbling sauce on a stove,
and it smelled like sauce in the apartment. It was
there was a smellscape. Wow, it was really immersive experience.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
It sounds like it. So I assume we're going to
learn more about the sauce, the lore, the sauce lore
as the season progresses. Is that is that a fair assumption?
Speaker 8 (22:43):
For sure?
Speaker 9 (22:43):
You're for sure going to learn more about the sauce
lore and the ingredients of the sauce, especially those that
are imported.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
So what are you most excited about for once the
season starts getting released and the episode start going out
and maybe your friends and families start getting to see
you in the show. Are you what are you most
excited about for that time.
Speaker 9 (23:06):
I'm excited to watch because I haven't seen it, and
then I'm excited to watch other people watch.
Speaker 8 (23:11):
Because I do know what's going to happen.
Speaker 9 (23:13):
For the most part, they did a good job of
keeping secrets from us, even but yeah, I'm just really
excited to watch people watch the twist and turns. This
is my first TV appearance, so I'm so excited to
watch everyone and just share it with, you know, the
people who've gotten here.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
You know.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
The most the most amazing stuff was just hearing the
stories that, you know, watching Steve do magic tricks while
we were waiting for them to set up a shot,
was you know, unforgettable.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
What kind of magic trick is he doing?
Speaker 3 (23:50):
I mean he was ripping up cards and putting them
back together backwards and side out, showing the fold but
folding them, asking another person to hold them, and then
taking it back like right underneath our noses. Wow, I
had no idea manifesting manifesting.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
I knew we played music, but also also magic.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
He is he is a renaissance man, renaissance renaissance man.
For sure, to.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Be in the room watching like all these superlative comedians desparring,
you know, like that that delightful spar and everybody getting
in on it, and somebody going like, look at what
I got, and I got this. Yeah, I just sat
(24:41):
back and was like, Okay, don't even try to be funny,
don't even try it.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
And it was a good lesson.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Yeah, did you try it once to be funny?
Speaker 10 (24:58):
Yeah, no, I'm not going to try. That would really
be embarrassing. I'm sure that's been said before. But to
be in a room with all those motherfuckers, yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Daphne might have been a little scared to perform in
front of that really stacked cast, but we are her
biggest fans, huge fans. She was in the original Broadway
cast for Rent. She was the voice of Dolores Roach
on that Gimblet show.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
The Horror of Dolores Roach, great podcast.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
And that was actually like a one man show that
she had developed with a front.
Speaker 7 (25:38):
She's so good. A guess Pajama Party. Just go check
it out, go listen to Pajama Party.
Speaker 8 (25:45):
She's so great.
Speaker 9 (25:46):
She's an icon though, she's got everything. Yeah, she's like
and she played my mom on screen. But she really
was just like such a wonderful presence to have on
set too, Like she was very motherly and she would
like but like the cool aunt way, like she would
be like, oh my god. And she had like these
crazy outfits with these like furry green heels and she'd be.
Speaker 8 (26:07):
Like walking around in them.
Speaker 9 (26:10):
And she always had like crazy They all had crazy stories.
I think my first day on set, the first day
where everyone was there, I think I blacked out, Like
I don't know what happened, because I was just absorbing
everything everyone was saying, Like Daphne was telling me funny stories.
And then like Martin Short and Richard Kind were just
like riffing off of one another.
Speaker 8 (26:32):
And Desmond.
Speaker 9 (26:34):
Desmond is like like a sneaky one liner, like every
once in a while he would just drop a joke
that would be so funny, and he like ad lived
every once in a while they were so funny.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Isn't that a person? Don't be ridiculous.
Speaker 7 (26:59):
It's a ham imported from Portugal, very special.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
It's a ham, Mabel, It's a ham in the shower.
It definitely seems like the Sauce family is up to something.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
But do they know who kills As.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
I'm not sure if I remember.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
That's a good answer.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Love it, love it.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
That's good.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Oh, I have I have something for you during this season.
I urge you to spy for the Panamanian flag.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Okay, we're very gullible.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
We really are.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
We're looking for everything, you know.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
After the break, we're back again with the writer of
episode to Kristin Newman to talk about Sas.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Our beloved Sas and what.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
To do with her ashes, plus the return of Jam and.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
The inspira for psychosexual manipulation. Welcome back. We're talking again
with Kristin Newman. She is the writer of episode two.
Speaker 7 (28:19):
This episode opens up with the Saz is like documentary
like monologue piece, right, how much of that was written?
Speaker 9 (28:28):
Like?
Speaker 7 (28:28):
How is there a whole documentary out there that she
recorded that you wrote?
Speaker 5 (28:33):
No, I think what's in there is exactly like a
first draft of that. We loved getting to hear her
talk about her history, and I loved the footage of
her as a little girl, you know, with her dad
jumping and learning how to fall. It was I don't
know that was that was one of those just sort
of like that cold open, just kind of came in
(28:55):
a wave in terms of the images of her talking
about learning how to fall and playing with danger. And
I started the whole kind of story breaking process with
the image of Charles just holding his hands up covered
in ashes and make suring what does Steve Martin do
with that? And like it was so easy to picture
him both heartbroken but also funny, trying to use his
(29:16):
elbows in his feet and just trying to how do
I what do I do?
Speaker 1 (29:21):
I know what I'll do a washer into a bowl.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
Great plan.
Speaker 6 (29:25):
Then I can take the water and ashes, pour him
into something, let the water evaporate.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Maybe a Mason jar. Oh, homie, cozy jar.
Speaker 6 (29:35):
I love Mason.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
We will go get that for you.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
Now, yes, you know, And it was it just felt
very easy to picture him in that moment. So the
whole cold kind of came as a piece and always
stayed that way. A lot of them, a lot of
everything has always worked and reworked and reworked, but that
kind of just came.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Yeah, it's so tragic and it's so funny.
Speaker 7 (29:55):
Yeah, it's such a great scene with him trying to
his bright eye idea of putting it into a bowl
and then dumping it into the jar and so sad,
so sad.
Speaker 5 (30:05):
Yeah, it's really the whole season is really a Charles
and SaaS love story, and I think it really really
pays off mosh Leigh at the end.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Oh, I'm glad to hear that. Yeah, we're about as
excited as we could ever be because we're going to
talk to Jane Lynch for the podcast this season. Yeah,
and we are so thrilled. We're such big fans of hers.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Oh can that wait?
Speaker 5 (30:27):
She's the greatest. She rented a house of mine. That's
how we first met. Really, she read what yeah, my
single girl house. I moved out and she needed a
place to live for maybe a year and a half
or so in between places, and so she was there
and that's how we made friends. And then I was
on this show and we were talking about it would
be a good Steve Stunt double. It was this amazing thing.
That was you, that was me.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
We have you to thank for that.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
Thanks so as I recall, I don't know it was
COVID twenty twenty, you know, June twenty twenty, so I
don't really remember. It might have totally been from they else.
I have no idea.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
I did her.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
I did go like, do you want to play sas
attacking Steve Stunt double and she's like, yes, I'm in.
I love it.
Speaker 7 (31:07):
Oh she's she's so much fun throughout all the seasons.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
A national treasure, national treasure.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Absolutely she is.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
And she really again hits it out of the park
by the end of the season. Emotionally, she's so good
in it.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
I can't wait. I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Speaking of that, actually, uh, we get another talking ghost
this season, which maybe is that every season. I'm not
I'd have to think back, but like we were talking
about Saz coming back as herself as a ghost, and
we were thinking like, is that because there's always a
talking ghost and only murders or is that because we
just we can't get enough of Saz PATTACKI I don't know,
(31:46):
what do you think?
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Yeah? What was the decision process? How did it go?
Speaker 5 (31:50):
It was really mostly just because you know, it was
Charles's big emotional story is kind of coming to a
deeper understanding of who she was to him, because when
we first meet her in season one, he's annoyed she
shows up right, She's kind of like, oh good, I
have to see her she's in town, right, and then
(32:10):
over the season she's been around more and really been
there to give him advice and to really know him,
to go like, this is how you always are, this
is what you're like, think about this. You know, she's
been there for him at these key moments for advice,
and we really wanted it to be a bit of
a love story to stunt people too. You know, we'll
(32:30):
meet more stunt people in this season coming up and
go into her world of stunts more as we look
into this and thinking about somebody who falls for you
your whole career, you know, who takes all the hits
for you, and then having Steve really realize, Charles really
realizes in this season how much she did for him
(32:52):
in so many departments and that it wasn't just a
stunt double. That actually he did lose his best friend.
And so there's you know, you want to let him
work that through with her and see how she supports
him and then maybe in the end see how he's
able to do it even without her, and so yeah,
you kind of needed her for that. But yeah, Jane
(33:13):
did say it, thank you for killing me. I got
so much more screen time.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
Hey, Hey, don't sw.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Me being dead as the least to your problem.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Most also, get your hands off my boobs.
Speaker 7 (33:27):
Yeah, John teased, I remember last season when we spoke
with them that we probably get to see more of
her than we ever would, So it looks like it's happening.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
It's great.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
Yeah, yeah, it's kind of Usually, you know, it's hard
for most actors when you get killed on a show,
but on this show, it's really good news.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
You get off the other person we get back this
this episode and episode two that we were so excited
to see was Jan played by Amy Ryan.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Right, we can't avoid that.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
We cannot talk about that. So can you tell us
about bringing Jan back for that episode?
Speaker 5 (33:57):
And yeah, I mean you just want her back because
she's so much fun. And yeah, we had alluded to
Saz being in a relationship with her last year, and
she'd kind of had a moment where she said, I
really probably got to break.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
Up with her.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
And so when we were thinking about who are the
suspects that they should go to when they should think about,
you know, it felt like somebody that the audience would
be thinking about, even though she was in jail, And
so it made us laugh that she was able to
easily kind of get out and I was smart and
you know she were like she definitely. Oh god, what
(34:33):
was the show where Ben Stiller directs? And it's the
two guys break out of prison, Escape at Dana Mora.
It's a fantastic watch. You have to watch. It's only
seven episodes and it's amazing. But anyway, so when we
were when we were looking at bringing jan back, we
thought a lot about Escape a Dana Mora and the
(34:53):
way that they manipulated Trisha Arkat's character as the guard
to get out, and we're like, jan Da finitely did that.
Definitely could seduce the guard and get out and then
probably kill them and get Brain on her.
Speaker 6 (35:06):
Sure back, stay back, How did you get out of prison?
Speaker 5 (35:12):
Course has taught me and psycho sexual manipulation. I won't
bore or arouse you with the deets.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Well thanks, yeah, security.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Brain as you do? Yeah yeah, no that.
Speaker 7 (35:26):
When before we started watching the season, we had both like,
let's who who do we think did it?
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Just to get it out.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
There nose after episode one?
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Okay, and my guess was.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Was we were both pretty sure.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
So it's crazy to see her in two. So immediately
not you guys are onto it.
Speaker 5 (35:43):
Yeah, I'm so glad because, yeah, there was there was
a lot of concern that that that's what everybody would
immediately think. So we wanted to make that go away.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Hyeah, mission accomplished.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Okay, So now that Jan is no longer a suspect,
or at least.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
It seems like she's no longer suspect.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Well, who's your guest?
Speaker 1 (36:02):
My guess? Yeah, maybe one of the Westies.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Maybe someone with the movie.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Someone, oh, someone involved in the movie. Yeah, or someone
in the building, another like neighbor that we've never met before.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Perhaps possibly sure, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
I felt like after episode one, I was so sure
that Jan was going to be somehow responsible for this,
But now it feels like she's not.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
No, I think she's in the clear.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Oh, let's also talk about East Eggs in the opening credits,
because you forgot to mention them in episode one, and
I love the.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Look that all the time, I don't track them, you
do every time.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
So episode one, did you catch it?
Speaker 5 (36:36):
No?
Speaker 1 (36:37):
It was a plain shadow. Okay, episode two, I don't know.
It was the hanging him one leg?
Speaker 7 (36:42):
Oh gosh, all right, I like luky, I'm only bibo,
right is that's I think so? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (36:48):
All right, later this week, come back for part two
of our coverage of episode two, Oh.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
My gosh, on Friday.
Speaker 7 (36:56):
It's going to be an incredible conversation with two incredible people.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Number one, John Hoffman.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
John Hoffman, you know him, you love him, showrunner, co creator.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
All around mench mench writer.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Of episode one, director of episodes one and two, et cetera,
et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
And the amazing Amy Ryan will be joining us, Jan herself.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Jan herself. And you realize, the last time we talked
to her, Ryan, we didn't even know she was a murderer.
You know, we just thought she was a kinkkeep as soon.
Speaker 7 (37:25):
As season one when we talked to her, we had
no idea we are talking to the murderer.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
It's so wild, and now it feels like it's old news. Yeah,
you know, she went to prison, then she escaped prison.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
And now she's wandering loose with security guard brains.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
It's wild.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Okay, that's the next episode in just a few days.
Thanks for listening, See you soon.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Thanks for listening to another episode of the Only Murders
in the Building podcast. Please send your thoughts and theories
to us at Only Murders at straw hutmedia dot com.
Take a minute to subscribe, rate the show, follow us,
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Speaker 2 (38:13):
Only Murders in the Building Podcast is a production of
straw Hut Media, hosted and produced by Ryan Tillotson and
Maggie Bolls. Associate producer is Stephen Markley. Original music by
Kyle Merritt and Only Murders in the Building theme music
by Siddartha Kosla. Assistant editor is Daniel Ferreira. Production assistant
is Carolyn Mendoza. Thank you to.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Kristin Newman, Daphne Rubin Vega, and Lillian Robello for talking
with us this week.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
And a big big thanks as always too, John Hoffman
and the entire Hulu team.
Speaker 5 (38:40):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Bye.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Mabel and Oliver are playing Oh Hell Around the Table
with Richard Kine with Richard kainan.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Stinky stink.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
I like this stinky. It's so affectionate stinky. I kind
of like makes it more cute.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
We were thinking maybe there's going to be some secret
singing singing in this season, but maybe not, because we
also know you had oh my gosh, another musical career
which we were listening to.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Listening to your music party right before.
Speaker 5 (39:22):
An Ouch again, we were we were loving it.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
But I'm guessing we're not going to hear you sing
this season Murders or can you tell us.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
I'm going to actually be reprising my pajama party role
on Only Murder Perfect.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
That's the answer we're looking for.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
You know, some people have porn in in their background.
I have pajama party
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