September 13, 2024 • 33 mins
Richard Kind, who plays Stink Eye Joe AKA Vince Fish, talks about the feeling of acting alongside comedy legends and explains what he does and doesn't remember about being on set. John Hoffman, Co-Creator, Showrunner, talks about the casting of Eva Longoria, Zach Galifianakis, and Eugene Levy, and explains the different types of clues in the show. And we hear about what’s happening in the Only Murders subreddit!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Straw Media.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'm looking at him, going Steve Martin from the eighties.
You got him right in your face, so I remember
that distinctly.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Hello, and welcome back to the Only Murders in the
Building Podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
I'm Ryan Tillotson and I'm Maggie Bowles, and we are
looking behind the scenes, mining for clues as we meet
the cast and creators of the HULUO original series Only
Murders in the Building.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Today on the show, we are continuing our conversations all
about season four, episode three, two for.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
The Road formerly known as Star Wars episode to Attack
of the Quotes.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
If you haven't seen episode three, or you haven't listened
to part one of this week's podcast, go do both
those things first, because.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Today we are talking to Richard Kinde, who plays Stink
Eyed Joe or Vince Fish, all about acting alongside comedy
legends and what he does and doesn't remember about being
on set a lot.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Apparently. We'll also talk more with John Hoffman, co creator show,
and about casting Eva Longoria, Zach Galifanakis, and Eugene Levy
and the different types of clues in the show.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Let's start though, with Richard kind Sometimes when we talk
to actors. We ask them about certain scenes or lines
or bits, and they say, I don't remember or I
have no idea, and I suppose. Usually we're talking to
them like six months or so after they've actually probably
don the thing. So are they playing dumb or what
do you think?
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Sometimes I feel like it's too broad up a question,
and you need to have like a specific thing because
as soon as it's becomes specific and then they're like,
it triggers something in their brain and they can think
of a million examples on set.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
You know that's a good point. Richard kind give us
his own explanation.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, it's sort of like a have you ever taken
art history?
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah, in college? You know you know art history. You
know the dates of the paintings, you know who painted it,
you know the effect it had, and the minute you
take the exam you completely forget who painted it and
what year it came out. You just forget. But to
memorize it for the test, if you're watching the show,
(02:13):
it impacts you much differently than if you memorize three
pages of the script and acted out. I have no
idea what happened, and the minute it's over, we forget it,
we simply forget it. I was what do you call it?
Youtubing something and God sent this clip of Corbin Bernson
(02:39):
fighting oh, an actress that I knew. He was in
a boxing match with her. A click on and I'm
in the clip and I'm the ring announcer. I don't remember.
Remember now I was in the ring and I don't remember. Wow, Now,
(02:59):
am I going through memory loss or I just do
not remember?
Speaker 3 (03:05):
No, there's You've been in so many things.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
And I've been in so many things. People mention the
name of a movie and I'm going, I don't know
what that is. It doesn't even sound familiar. Let's see
if I remember or I can tell.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
You any Yeah, okay, Well let's start with how did
you get involved in the show?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yes, I am friends with uh. It's Dan Fogelman is
the executive producer of this. When a producer comes up
and says, we're writing something for you, or we have
you in mind for something, it's the biggest crock of
bull in the world. I wish I had a dollar
(03:45):
for every promise of oh, we're thinking of you. Oh God,
I would be wealthier than the amount of money that
I get paid from all the people who come up
and say we're thinking of you that now. I play
golf with Dan, and Dan said, we're thinking of you
for this character. I have been in this business long
enough that when I have finished a day on set,
(04:08):
that's the only way I know that I got the part.
It's the only way. Wow jaded, very very jaded when
it comes to this. And he was kept telling me
we have a part, we have a part. We're thinking
of you for this part. Then he goes, your agent's
going to get a call, your manager's going to get
a call. And then I did. They wrote a part
for me. I didn't even have the audition and they
(04:30):
wrote it with that in mind. And it's scary sometimes
when something is written for you and you show up
and it's completely different than what they envisioned. The flip
side of that is it's better than they ever could
have hoped for. I don't know what this was, but
(04:51):
I didn't audition, and I showed up and I saw
the first script and I go, yeah, I think I
have a handle on this, so I think I couldn
sect with it pretty well.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
When we've spoken to some of the writers so far
this season, they say that stingy. Joe's name in the
script was originally Richard Kind.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
That's funny. I'm going to tell you something else. I
don't like one man shows. I think that they are masturbatory.
I think it takes a lot more craft to write two, three,
four people in a scene. I'm talking about live theater
than it is to do a one man show. John
(05:35):
Hoffman years ago did a one man show called Northern Lights.
When I tell you how superior this piece was, and
I will tell you in ways that are not normally
in a one man show, the story and the characters
were so good that HBO did a movie directed and
(06:00):
I think starring, but directed by Diane Keaton. I think
it's called Northern Lights. It's not good. It's not a
good movie. The story is John's. But there was such
an art to what he did and took you from
different character to different character. I wrote him a note
(06:22):
one time saying just what it admire. I think I
might have seen him afterwards, but I'm nobody, you know,
and I'm sure everybody did it. And then I wrote
him a note, but he remembered the note. He remembered that,
and I might have been I don't want to say
a name, but I might have had a more fame
than I had when I first saw it, and therefore
(06:42):
he paid attention to it more and was very sweet
about it.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
I'm curious because you say you don't like One Man shows,
why did you go?
Speaker 2 (06:50):
It doesn't mean I don't see them. I don't like them.
I'll go see them, you know, I'll go see them.
But I wish they had written a I think it's
very easy to stand up there and and just spout
these words. I just I just don't so wait.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
You are You definitely are a name, and you have
been in so many things like we've talked about, like
have you worked with any of this cast before?
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Well, I certainly worked with Marty before, because Marty did
a movie called Clifford, and I played his father in
Clifford Fantastic. Well, I'll argue with you, fantastic, but it
is revered, but it's ain't so fantastic classic, And as
a called classic, it's spectacular.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
I think Rob wrote a whole essay on right one
of the writers, and Murders wrote a whole essay on.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Oh yes, so very much so for Vulture's out of
his mind. Yes, I know him. Okay, we're else, Well, Marty,
I had improvised with him quite a few times because
of our relationship with Second City. Who else Steve Martin
didn't know. I did go through one thing. Okay, here's
(08:07):
a little bit of insight. We were sitting there and
we were sitting alone, and I said, I have to
tell you when you first started stand up comedy before
the big auditoriums. He played a place called Amazing Grace
in Evanston, Illinois while I was in college. So this
was sometime between seventy four and seventy eight, and he
(08:27):
played two on Friday and two on Saturday. And I
went to all four shows. But I didn't I've never
met I met Steve once before at a poker table
for charity. In the poker event for charity. Very kind
to me, but he's notoriously shy. And we that very
(08:47):
passing complimentary things at the table. Wow, what a pleasure.
But I can't say I met him. But I will
tell you how I knew he liked me. Okay, we
used to while they're setting up different lightings, stuff and everything,
and it takes about twenty minutes to forty minutes, so
(09:07):
you go to the green room or the sitting room
where we would sit and we would sit and talk.
So one time we're in there and it was I
think the scene was just me and Eugene Levy and Steve.
Eugene had already left and gone to the set, and
I'm filling around and I'm putting my phone down and
Steve is doing something and he says to me, I
(09:29):
have enjoyed you over the years. You've made me laugh. Okay,
that's great. He could say that to anyone.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
I don't think he was lying, but you go, ah,
that's so nice of you. But a kind man. Three
nights later, his documentary, the documentary about him was having
a screening at a at a screening room for about
one hundred and fifty people. I have been invited to it,
(10:00):
and I go there. I walk in. I'm standing at
the bar. There's about one hundred and fifty people around.
And the person whose take has been taking names goes,
excuse me, mister kind And I'm standing there getting a drink.
Mister Martin is in the green room. He wanted to
know if you'd like to join him in there. There
were only six people there, and I was one of them. Wow,
(10:22):
he likes me. That's how I knew he was.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
He does like you.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
That's when it resonated, not when he said, oh, nice job.
Anybody can say nice sab. But out of one hundred
and fifty people, I'm one of six people. It's the filmmaker.
I think John Marty. I think Marty was there. Who
was somebody else? And me?
Speaker 3 (10:41):
I love that little secret club you guys have well
for that night.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
For ten for twenty minutes. Yes, secret, It was a
secret club, and I was better than everybody else.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Okay, Well, speaking of Steve and Eugene in episode three,
to get specific, now, there is a great, great scene
where they are trying to get your eyepatch off. I know,
can you tell us about that scene? Can you tell
us about shooting that scene?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
What do you remember here?
Speaker 5 (11:12):
Good?
Speaker 6 (11:12):
Wait wait wait I get it, I get it. You've
tried everything on the market, but you will change your
tune when you hear my friend's tale, my tale, the
tale you told me last week at the improv.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Oh oh, yes, and well my tale is simple. My
cousin is an ophthalmologist.
Speaker 6 (11:35):
Doctor Savage as sal as our Savage.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yes, Eugene is also a hero of mine, especially Second City,
certainly through all of the Chris Guest movies. I'm standing
there watching Eugene, watching Steve Martin pole looking at him.
What are you saying? Looking at him? What are you saying?
(11:58):
Of course, I'm like, what the hell are you people
speak talking about? But this is what's going on in
my head. I look like this and going this. Eugene Levy,
look at Steve Martin, you're acting with, Look at the
look where the hell you are? Who would have ever
thought that this would be your blessing in life? Can
(12:20):
you imagine history? I made cinema history. I'm acting with
Eugene Levy and Steve Martin. And here's something else. I'm
the straight man in the scene. Do your job. Don't
try and get a laugh. It's not your place to
get a laugh. It's your place to be there so
(12:41):
that they can get laughs. Something else about that scene.
Steve Martin did a movie. I think it's The Man
with Two Brains. His name is doctor farrh R. Do
you remember that? Do you remember that name? Doctor Farr?
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Are?
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Okay? He has to in trying to pull points from
the air. He has to make up a medicine or
where he got it, and he said, the doctor for
something like that, and he had to do it. He
went back into his I don't want to say bag
(13:19):
of tricks, but something that he did once that was
so of its time in the eighties that I was
so impacted by. And he did that, which he hasn't
done in years and years and years. He hasn't done
it since then. And he did it. And I'm right
there and I am a giggler and I can laugh.
(13:44):
Somebody makes me laugh. I am not good at suppressing it.
And he did it, and damned if I didn't laugh.
I did not laugh. I kept it. I'm looking and
of course I'm looking at him, going Steve Martin from
the eighties. You got him right in your face. So
I remember that distinctly, distinctly. That was wonderful. Salazar, yeahs Halibar,
(14:15):
that's what it is, doctor, doctor Haliba, doctor salabars On,
whatever it is. And it sees it made me laugh
and uh and I didn't laugh, but it just almost
made me cry because I was there there. I was.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
After the break. Richard Kine tells us about an homage
to Steve Martin in episode three.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
And John Hoffman tells us about Stinky Joe's neighbor, Christmas
All the Time Guy, and the process of casting the
trio's Hollywood doubles Welcome Back. We are talking to Richard
kind about the scene in episode three where Eugene Love
and Charles are trying to see what's behind Stinkeye Joe's eyepatch.
(15:04):
Chaos En sues, but by the end of the episode,
charleson Winter Pal's Andy Gene.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Then it's a very funny scene.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
He did something. I don't know whether or not he's
sort of conscious of this or he's not conscious. I
did a very Steve Martin esque delivery, something about what
he says, I'm lonely, and I go, I'm lonely.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Too, I'm awkward.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
I'm awkward too. That was very Steve Martin, And during
one take he became Steve Martin and did it like that.
And I'm wondering if he thought to himself, this is
Richard's wait to get a lamp, I'm not going to match.
(15:50):
And he didn't do it after that. That's how I interpreted,
or maybe he didn't think it was funny or that
it didn't fit. But I remember going, I'm walk with
two that, which is a this figure is very Steve
Martin esque.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Yeah, it definitely is.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yeah, So I love that. That's something that he was
very kind about. I consciously did it as an homage
to him. Whether or not it comes up that way,
I don't care. I don't care whether people recognize it
or not. But I know that I was influenced by
how he used to do his delivery. So yeah, I
(16:32):
love that.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
There was a beautiful moment when you guys finally hugged and.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
We hugged and we hugged. Yeah, the bond. Whenever I
see you through the window, you always look away. No,
I'm just awkward. I'm awkward too. You're awkward. I'm very awkward, Yes, charls.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Yeah, we'll be hearing from Richard kind again. Don't worry, listeners,
But for now, let's move over to John Hoffman and
talk about the casting of the Hollywood Trio.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
Such a great process because you know, you could go
a lot of different ways, and we made up lists
basically for each one and thought, okay, you could go
younger with Mabel, you could go older with age wise,
personality types, all of it. We just made crazy lists,
and then when we got down to it and we
started writing and blocking out what was happening and thinking
(17:33):
in terms truthfully of like having characters that could reflect
and ask questions and be annoyed with their characters and
like bored by them and all those things that are
like or just grossed out by the narcissism or like
anything of that sort of nature. It started to feel, oh,
(17:54):
we need to be more a little bit down the
pike of casting. Who makes sense for casting. And then
the last decision was with Eva, who's so great, but
it was more like, even though there's a big age
gap between Zach and Marty, it was you know, in
(18:18):
one direction, so pointing out this age gap and the
decision as to why, and then having Eva constantly you know,
sort of relating in the younger way that she was
just she's just flawless about it. It's the intergenerational jokes
we've always done in the show, and so it was
very much a part of that as well.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
We also both noticed Zach alvin Akus has like the
one line about between two ferns, and we were noticing
the Jimmy glick between two ferns kind of connection between
Martin Short and Zach feels feels right, felt very natural,
feels right.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
I mean that that's where the medic goes crazy when
you're when you're sort of watching sometimes because yeah, and
I think it's so I wish we could have created
a behind the scenes of this season because just the
green room talk and chatter was both hysterically funny more
(19:17):
than ever, but also really sweet. Like watching Zach Zach
just there. I don't think there's anyone that tickles him
as much as Martin Short because he just was read
constantly and doubled over, and Marty is hysterical. But it
was very sweet to watch the two of them work together,
and we all had like the greatest time. Eugene is
(19:41):
Gold and I knew that Steve was wildly excited to
work with Eugene again and loves him so and and
everything about those days, especially in episode three with Richard
Kind and Eugene and Steve Martin, those were days. Do
you just feel like you're sitting on Mount Rushmore of
(20:02):
comedy all the time?
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Yeah, you know we've heard in the past, like on
set and Marty's always the one goofing around like, so
was that still was that still the same or were
there people?
Speaker 5 (20:12):
I mean, Marty is an ever present comedic force on
screen off screen, and you know, I think in truth,
like when people first come on to any show, they're
all they're all lovely professionals and respectful and stuff like that,
and then it all loosened up. It was like, literally
if we only had a campfire in the center of
the room around all the director chairs they were sitting
(20:33):
in for the guests for the green room.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
I love that while Eugene Levey and Charles work on Vince, Fish, Evil,
Longoria and Mabel are with Christmas all the Time. Guy
Kristin Newman, one of the writers, the one we spoke
to you for episode two, she sees a really scary
side of that.
Speaker 7 (20:50):
I don't know, Christmas all the time guy, that pretty
early because you're like, wouldn't it be weird for that
person to be like a single young guy. It's always
you know, it's always going to woman. But it was
just a really muscular, hot young person just dating and
you like, went on a date with some guy from
Tinder and he brought you home and then you saw
(21:10):
Christmas all the time.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
That's a serial killer.
Speaker 7 (21:14):
It's just a other reaction as a woman being brought
home to an apartment than to think I'm definitely with
the serial killer now. So that seemed like a good
spooky character, right.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Yeah, I feel like there's a joker that I can't
find with like a red and green flag, you know
what I mean? Yeah, I think it's a red flag.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
What are you doing here?
Speaker 8 (21:43):
What are you doing here solving a murder?
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Mabell works alone?
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Remember who was there?
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Oh, do we have company?
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Eva? I guess, well, Rudy.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
So I was. I was intrigued by this idea because
just the idea of like how we all do that?
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Right?
Speaker 5 (22:00):
You look across your neighbors into the yard and you
see like someone's doing something weird, and you're like, what
the hell is what is that thing over there? I
don't know what they do it every night?
Speaker 2 (22:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
Like there was a woman I used to live in
an apartment building where I lived over and I watched
her every night, and it was soothing after a while,
but I thought, this is still crazy. She would sit
in her window and there was a light facing her face,
and she had cold cream all over her face, and
she would carefully pluck at her eyebrows every night.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Wow, she's really serious.
Speaker 5 (22:33):
This is fascinating. But it was like a ritual thing
that was happening. But I was like, what is going on?
So I was like, have you seen.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
An eyebrow lady?
Speaker 5 (22:42):
Like, I'm like that, So you do that? We all
do that.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
So did that process take her like ten minutes or
an hour? I'm so curious about it.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
I want to say it was about half an hour
every night. Yeah, it was kind of magnificent. But I
was like, how many Why is there anything left to group.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Quickness? Are these women's eyebrow hairs?
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Girl?
Speaker 2 (23:03):
I know that's the right question.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
But that whole idea of contextualizing someone in that way
and making assumptions felt great. Very only murders in the
building sort of who are they really? What's going on
with them? And that keeps developing, So that all felt
really good. Camel Just I mean the idea that that
(23:27):
just seemed weird that, you know, a great looking guy
was over there amidst all the Christmas decorations. What the
hell is going on? It's like, that really seems suspicious.
It seemed freakish.
Speaker 8 (23:39):
Admit it, Christmas is all you have. Yeah, Christmas and fitness.
Fitness is clearly important to you. That is not lost
on me. But mostly you love Christmas. So when your
scrooge of a neighbor tries to take away your real
Christmas trees.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
You snapped, Eva put the gun.
Speaker 8 (23:55):
Down once you had Charles in your sight.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Even Logoria's unhinged, that is correct you.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
I love the chemistry between all three of them in
that in that scene when they're she starts breaking the
things and then she gets the gun and it's like
so fun.
Speaker 9 (24:12):
Yeah, yeah, doing everything Mabel wouldn't do, and like this
whole thing, the whole world has gone out of control
as suddenly the mess that Oliver found himself in with
Zach that started out that way and then all of
a sudden that feels like it's turned beautiful until it
turns again.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
You know.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Yeah. I loved the Oliver Zach Alfanak his Friendly Friend montage.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
It felt so good That's why it hurts so much
at the end when.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
So many perfect strangers that montage and watching Zach Califanakis
do a bell kick with a with a did luggage car,
Yeah yeah that was. And then Jackie Hoffman in the elevator.
I don't know, the whole thing just was I loved it,
insane but felt very right.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
What's what is the connection to perfect strangers?
Speaker 4 (25:18):
What?
Speaker 10 (25:18):
Are you a huge fan? What's No, it's the Ham Radio.
You know it was we were, you know. I hesitate
to say too much because it still comes around.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
That's fair.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Fairand what we can say is it's not random.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
We could say, no, it's connected, it's connected. There's there's
always random things. I think we sort of build in
random things and specific things, and sometimes they bear out
to be essential clues. Some bear out to be emotional clues,
some bear out to be oh, that's what was going on,
and then there are others that feel much more like
(25:59):
you know, so we'll see, but they all, yeah, they
all have grades of importance.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Yeah. The cliffhanger, I guess at the end of episode
three is that voice on the Ham radio with the accent.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Mm hmm, yeah, yeah, I don't know what my question is.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
No, I know there's a voice with an accent on
the on the on the Ham radio. And yes, well
we have theories. Gosh, I hope we answer that one.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Yeah, me too, me too, Bran, should we tell the
listeners our theory.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
I yeah, I guess this would be the place to
do it. It would be the place I suppose we should because.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
I feel like we've teased our theory, but we feel
like we recognize the voice.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
We could be wrong. We have no clue.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
We are almost always wrong, which is why we don't
share our theories with you listeners, because we're usually wrong.
We think it sounds kind of like Tina.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Fe Is Sandy Canning involved? Again?
Speaker 1 (26:55):
That's what we need to know. What do you think, listeners?
Does it sound like Tina Fey? Do you think Cindy
Canning is involved? Is she going to come back? Let
us know? Thank you all so much for your emails too.
We got some good theories. Here are some of the
things that you guys are thinking.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Anna from Florida believes there is more to the Ham
theme a lot of Ham, and Patty thinks that maybe
all this Ham talk is pointing to a guest appearance
from John Ham. I love that, which is so when
I read that, I was like, yes, I love it,
I love it. I really I hope it's true.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
We also had an interesting theory from Shauna, who thinks
that maybe Saz is the one renting the empty apartment,
and that Jan was using it as a safe house.
That was her banging on the door. Interesting, and that
all that the code is ohell to make it easy
for everybody to remember, and they all kind of use
it to store stuff in it. Okay, all right, interesting idea.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Interesting, Okay, And now here's Hannah from the Only Murders subreddit.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
Hey Maggie, Hey Ryan, and hello to all of the
pod listeners. This week gave us another great episodes with
new leads on new clues and so I am back
with new theories from the Only Murders sabreddit our slash
only Murders who. Firstly, we keep going back and forth
on the topic of the intended target, and this week
people are back to thinking Sas could have been the
(28:12):
real target, but with the addition of Charles potentially being
in danger as well. Jane Specialist four nine eighty eight says,
from what the woman said on the radio, Sas was
the target that night, as she said, the last person
who was investigating got killed. That was Saz, who had
suspicions that somebody near Charles was out to get him.
Could it be that the person in the apartment was
(28:33):
somebody who felt wronged by Charles in the past, and
maybe Sas grew suspicious because she recognized the person during
one of her visits. So, as you can see, people
have many interrogations about what Sas knew, what was she doing,
who was she investigating, and what was a sensitive issue
she wanted to discuss with Charles. At the end of
last season, Oslo eleven says, my theory so far for
(28:53):
this season is that Sas was bringing a cold case
from the past that happened in the building but was
either looked at or unsolved. So she moves into the
building and is staying in the empty apartment overlooking the
trio while she investigates the cold case during the hour
of the killer who still lives there. We obviously all
have many questions surrounding the ominous Dudenoff. Ramblin Rex says,
(29:16):
I don't think Dudonov is a real person, but rather
a made up person all the Westies use as a
way to claim that someone is squatting in that apartment,
so the apartment stays empty and they get it for
free and can use it for leisure activities, storage, etc.
And then out As NTM says, I was just wondering
about Dudonof and all this talk of radio. The apartment
(29:38):
belongs supposedly to M. Doudanoff, and the apartment letter is
f f M. Dudanoff or dudonof FM could be a
radio station. Our members also love an anagram and are
wondering if dudonov could be an anagram or an ambigram
for something, So if any of you have any ideas
on that, let us know when a subreddit. This week
(30:00):
we met another Westy and while Mabel and Eva Longoria
seems to have written him off as a murderer, the
Westies are still suspicious to our members. Practical Check five
Tiery six says each season there are always two secrets.
In the first season we had the death of Tim
and the Dema's grave robbing business. The second season had
(30:21):
the savage painting and Bunny's death, and the third season
had Loretta's secrets and Ben's murder. So I believe that
the Westies have a secrets of their own. People are
also discussing the word sas appears to have written in
her own blood all for Believe and says there is
a tap in Charles's apartment. A bug that's the sensitive
(30:41):
subjects has wanted to talk about. Perhaps she wasn't able
to finish writing, or it has a double meaning for us.
This is supported by the fact that many bugs use
radio frequencies, and ham radios have been a recurrent topic. Finally,
we have service who says, my over the top theory
is a strangers on train kind of plot where someone
(31:03):
in La and someone in New York did murders for
each other so they had alibis, and then possibly the
New York person didn't hold up their end of the
bargain so is at risk from the La killer. So
while there's still no clear suspect on our end, we're
analyzing all the clues and perhaps episode four will come
in with new banging revelations. So I'll be back next
(31:24):
week with more theories from the Only Murders in the Building.
So I've reddit.
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Speaker 3 (32:09):
Thank you so much to Richard Kine for talking with
us this week, Thanks to Hannah over at run.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
It, and a big, big, big thanks as always to
John Hoffman and the entire Hulu team.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
See you soon, see you.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Are we recording visually as well well, Richard, we would
love to be able to use little pieces for social
media if you're okay with it. Sure, I look like
an idiot, but yes, let's do it. Okay, all right,
I think you look great good. I'll tell you an
example is I was a waiter years ago. Two of
my favorite shows in the world that I can tell
(32:49):
you every little thing about it was The Mary Tyler
Moore Show and The Dick Van Dyke Show. I loved
those two shows, and what did they have in common?
Was Mary Tyler Moore. I'm a waiter in the Hamptons
and I'm waiting tables on her and I asked her
about the specific questions about the Dick Van Dyke sho
about the Mary Tyler Moore Show, and she said, I'm sorry,
(33:14):
I don't remember. And I'm looking at her, going, You're
a horrible woman. I'm asking you these questions and you
are pretending that you don't know. Today, I know you'll
go through episodes, are mad about Yourriston City. I don't
remember them.
Straw Media.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'm looking at him, going Steve Martin from the eighties.
You got him right in your face, so I remember
that distinctly.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Hello, and welcome back to the Only Murders in the
Building Podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
I'm Ryan Tillotson and I'm Maggie Bowles, and we are
looking behind the scenes, mining for clues as we meet
the cast and creators of the HULUO original series Only
Murders in the Building.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Today on the show, we are continuing our conversations all
about season four, episode three, two for.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
The Road formerly known as Star Wars episode to Attack
of the Quotes.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
If you haven't seen episode three, or you haven't listened
to part one of this week's podcast, go do both
those things first, because.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Today we are talking to Richard Kinde, who plays Stink
Eyed Joe or Vince Fish, all about acting alongside comedy
legends and what he does and doesn't remember about being
on set a lot.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Apparently. We'll also talk more with John Hoffman, co creator show,
and about casting Eva Longoria, Zach Galifanakis, and Eugene Levy
and the different types of clues in the show.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Let's start though, with Richard kind Sometimes when we talk
to actors. We ask them about certain scenes or lines
or bits, and they say, I don't remember or I
have no idea, and I suppose. Usually we're talking to
them like six months or so after they've actually probably
don the thing. So are they playing dumb or what
do you think?
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Sometimes I feel like it's too broad up a question,
and you need to have like a specific thing because
as soon as it's becomes specific and then they're like,
it triggers something in their brain and they can think
of a million examples on set.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
You know that's a good point. Richard kind give us
his own explanation.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, it's sort of like a have you ever taken
art history?
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah, in college? You know you know art history. You
know the dates of the paintings, you know who painted it,
you know the effect it had, and the minute you
take the exam you completely forget who painted it and
what year it came out. You just forget. But to
memorize it for the test, if you're watching the show,
(02:13):
it impacts you much differently than if you memorize three
pages of the script and acted out. I have no
idea what happened, and the minute it's over, we forget it,
we simply forget it. I was what do you call it?
Youtubing something and God sent this clip of Corbin Bernson
(02:39):
fighting oh, an actress that I knew. He was in
a boxing match with her. A click on and I'm
in the clip and I'm the ring announcer. I don't remember.
Remember now I was in the ring and I don't remember. Wow, Now,
(02:59):
am I going through memory loss or I just do
not remember?
Speaker 3 (03:05):
No, there's You've been in so many things.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
And I've been in so many things. People mention the
name of a movie and I'm going, I don't know
what that is. It doesn't even sound familiar. Let's see
if I remember or I can tell.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
You any Yeah, okay, Well let's start with how did
you get involved in the show?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yes, I am friends with uh. It's Dan Fogelman is
the executive producer of this. When a producer comes up
and says, we're writing something for you, or we have
you in mind for something, it's the biggest crock of
bull in the world. I wish I had a dollar
(03:45):
for every promise of oh, we're thinking of you. Oh God,
I would be wealthier than the amount of money that
I get paid from all the people who come up
and say we're thinking of you that now. I play
golf with Dan, and Dan said, we're thinking of you
for this character. I have been in this business long
enough that when I have finished a day on set,
(04:08):
that's the only way I know that I got the part.
It's the only way. Wow jaded, very very jaded when
it comes to this. And he was kept telling me
we have a part, we have a part. We're thinking
of you for this part. Then he goes, your agent's
going to get a call, your manager's going to get
a call. And then I did. They wrote a part
for me. I didn't even have the audition and they
(04:30):
wrote it with that in mind. And it's scary sometimes
when something is written for you and you show up
and it's completely different than what they envisioned. The flip
side of that is it's better than they ever could
have hoped for. I don't know what this was, but
(04:51):
I didn't audition, and I showed up and I saw
the first script and I go, yeah, I think I
have a handle on this, so I think I couldn
sect with it pretty well.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
When we've spoken to some of the writers so far
this season, they say that stingy. Joe's name in the
script was originally Richard Kind.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
That's funny. I'm going to tell you something else. I
don't like one man shows. I think that they are masturbatory.
I think it takes a lot more craft to write two, three,
four people in a scene. I'm talking about live theater
than it is to do a one man show. John
(05:35):
Hoffman years ago did a one man show called Northern Lights.
When I tell you how superior this piece was, and
I will tell you in ways that are not normally
in a one man show, the story and the characters
were so good that HBO did a movie directed and
(06:00):
I think starring, but directed by Diane Keaton. I think
it's called Northern Lights. It's not good. It's not a
good movie. The story is John's. But there was such
an art to what he did and took you from
different character to different character. I wrote him a note
(06:22):
one time saying just what it admire. I think I
might have seen him afterwards, but I'm nobody, you know,
and I'm sure everybody did it. And then I wrote
him a note, but he remembered the note. He remembered that,
and I might have been I don't want to say
a name, but I might have had a more fame
than I had when I first saw it, and therefore
(06:42):
he paid attention to it more and was very sweet
about it.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
I'm curious because you say you don't like One Man shows,
why did you go?
Speaker 2 (06:50):
It doesn't mean I don't see them. I don't like them.
I'll go see them, you know, I'll go see them.
But I wish they had written a I think it's
very easy to stand up there and and just spout
these words. I just I just don't so wait.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
You are You definitely are a name, and you have
been in so many things like we've talked about, like
have you worked with any of this cast before?
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Well, I certainly worked with Marty before, because Marty did
a movie called Clifford, and I played his father in
Clifford Fantastic. Well, I'll argue with you, fantastic, but it
is revered, but it's ain't so fantastic classic, And as
a called classic, it's spectacular.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
I think Rob wrote a whole essay on right one
of the writers, and Murders wrote a whole essay on.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Oh yes, so very much so for Vulture's out of
his mind. Yes, I know him. Okay, we're else, Well, Marty,
I had improvised with him quite a few times because
of our relationship with Second City. Who else Steve Martin
didn't know. I did go through one thing. Okay, here's
(08:07):
a little bit of insight. We were sitting there and
we were sitting alone, and I said, I have to
tell you when you first started stand up comedy before
the big auditoriums. He played a place called Amazing Grace
in Evanston, Illinois while I was in college. So this
was sometime between seventy four and seventy eight, and he
(08:27):
played two on Friday and two on Saturday. And I
went to all four shows. But I didn't I've never
met I met Steve once before at a poker table
for charity. In the poker event for charity. Very kind
to me, but he's notoriously shy. And we that very
(08:47):
passing complimentary things at the table. Wow, what a pleasure.
But I can't say I met him. But I will
tell you how I knew he liked me. Okay, we
used to while they're setting up different lightings, stuff and everything,
and it takes about twenty minutes to forty minutes, so
(09:07):
you go to the green room or the sitting room
where we would sit and we would sit and talk.
So one time we're in there and it was I
think the scene was just me and Eugene Levy and Steve.
Eugene had already left and gone to the set, and
I'm filling around and I'm putting my phone down and
Steve is doing something and he says to me, I
(09:29):
have enjoyed you over the years. You've made me laugh. Okay,
that's great. He could say that to anyone.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
I don't think he was lying, but you go, ah,
that's so nice of you. But a kind man. Three
nights later, his documentary, the documentary about him was having
a screening at a at a screening room for about
one hundred and fifty people. I have been invited to it,
(10:00):
and I go there. I walk in. I'm standing at
the bar. There's about one hundred and fifty people around.
And the person whose take has been taking names goes,
excuse me, mister kind And I'm standing there getting a drink.
Mister Martin is in the green room. He wanted to
know if you'd like to join him in there. There
were only six people there, and I was one of them. Wow,
(10:22):
he likes me. That's how I knew he was.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
He does like you.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
That's when it resonated, not when he said, oh, nice job.
Anybody can say nice sab. But out of one hundred
and fifty people, I'm one of six people. It's the filmmaker.
I think John Marty. I think Marty was there. Who
was somebody else? And me?
Speaker 3 (10:41):
I love that little secret club you guys have well
for that night.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
For ten for twenty minutes. Yes, secret, It was a
secret club, and I was better than everybody else.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Okay, Well, speaking of Steve and Eugene in episode three,
to get specific, now, there is a great, great scene
where they are trying to get your eyepatch off. I know,
can you tell us about that scene? Can you tell
us about shooting that scene?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
What do you remember here?
Speaker 5 (11:12):
Good?
Speaker 6 (11:12):
Wait wait wait I get it, I get it. You've
tried everything on the market, but you will change your
tune when you hear my friend's tale, my tale, the
tale you told me last week at the improv.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Oh oh, yes, and well my tale is simple. My
cousin is an ophthalmologist.
Speaker 6 (11:35):
Doctor Savage as sal as our Savage.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yes, Eugene is also a hero of mine, especially Second City,
certainly through all of the Chris Guest movies. I'm standing
there watching Eugene, watching Steve Martin pole looking at him.
What are you saying? Looking at him? What are you saying?
(11:58):
Of course, I'm like, what the hell are you people
speak talking about? But this is what's going on in
my head. I look like this and going this. Eugene Levy,
look at Steve Martin, you're acting with, Look at the
look where the hell you are? Who would have ever
thought that this would be your blessing in life? Can
(12:20):
you imagine history? I made cinema history. I'm acting with
Eugene Levy and Steve Martin. And here's something else. I'm
the straight man in the scene. Do your job. Don't
try and get a laugh. It's not your place to
get a laugh. It's your place to be there so
(12:41):
that they can get laughs. Something else about that scene.
Steve Martin did a movie. I think it's The Man
with Two Brains. His name is doctor farrh R. Do
you remember that? Do you remember that name? Doctor Farr?
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Are?
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Okay? He has to in trying to pull points from
the air. He has to make up a medicine or
where he got it, and he said, the doctor for
something like that, and he had to do it. He
went back into his I don't want to say bag
(13:19):
of tricks, but something that he did once that was
so of its time in the eighties that I was
so impacted by. And he did that, which he hasn't
done in years and years and years. He hasn't done
it since then. And he did it. And I'm right
there and I am a giggler and I can laugh.
(13:44):
Somebody makes me laugh. I am not good at suppressing it.
And he did it, and damned if I didn't laugh.
I did not laugh. I kept it. I'm looking and
of course I'm looking at him, going Steve Martin from
the eighties. You got him right in your face. So
I remember that distinctly, distinctly. That was wonderful. Salazar, yeahs Halibar,
(14:15):
that's what it is, doctor, doctor Haliba, doctor salabars On,
whatever it is. And it sees it made me laugh
and uh and I didn't laugh, but it just almost
made me cry because I was there there. I was.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
After the break. Richard Kine tells us about an homage
to Steve Martin in episode three.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
And John Hoffman tells us about Stinky Joe's neighbor, Christmas
All the Time Guy, and the process of casting the
trio's Hollywood doubles Welcome Back. We are talking to Richard
kind about the scene in episode three where Eugene Love
and Charles are trying to see what's behind Stinkeye Joe's eyepatch.
(15:04):
Chaos En sues, but by the end of the episode,
charleson Winter Pal's Andy Gene.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Then it's a very funny scene.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
He did something. I don't know whether or not he's
sort of conscious of this or he's not conscious. I
did a very Steve Martin esque delivery, something about what
he says, I'm lonely, and I go, I'm lonely.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Too, I'm awkward.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
I'm awkward too. That was very Steve Martin, And during
one take he became Steve Martin and did it like that.
And I'm wondering if he thought to himself, this is
Richard's wait to get a lamp, I'm not going to match.
(15:50):
And he didn't do it after that. That's how I interpreted,
or maybe he didn't think it was funny or that
it didn't fit. But I remember going, I'm walk with
two that, which is a this figure is very Steve
Martin esque.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Yeah, it definitely is.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yeah, So I love that. That's something that he was
very kind about. I consciously did it as an homage
to him. Whether or not it comes up that way,
I don't care. I don't care whether people recognize it
or not. But I know that I was influenced by
how he used to do his delivery. So yeah, I
(16:32):
love that.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
There was a beautiful moment when you guys finally hugged and.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
We hugged and we hugged. Yeah, the bond. Whenever I
see you through the window, you always look away. No,
I'm just awkward. I'm awkward too. You're awkward. I'm very awkward, Yes, charls.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Yeah, we'll be hearing from Richard kind again. Don't worry, listeners,
But for now, let's move over to John Hoffman and
talk about the casting of the Hollywood Trio.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
Such a great process because you know, you could go
a lot of different ways, and we made up lists
basically for each one and thought, okay, you could go
younger with Mabel, you could go older with age wise,
personality types, all of it. We just made crazy lists,
and then when we got down to it and we
started writing and blocking out what was happening and thinking
(17:33):
in terms truthfully of like having characters that could reflect
and ask questions and be annoyed with their characters and
like bored by them and all those things that are
like or just grossed out by the narcissism or like
anything of that sort of nature. It started to feel, oh,
(17:54):
we need to be more a little bit down the
pike of casting. Who makes sense for casting. And then
the last decision was with Eva, who's so great, but
it was more like, even though there's a big age
gap between Zach and Marty, it was you know, in
(18:18):
one direction, so pointing out this age gap and the
decision as to why, and then having Eva constantly you know,
sort of relating in the younger way that she was
just she's just flawless about it. It's the intergenerational jokes
we've always done in the show, and so it was
very much a part of that as well.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
We also both noticed Zach alvin Akus has like the
one line about between two ferns, and we were noticing
the Jimmy glick between two ferns kind of connection between
Martin Short and Zach feels feels right, felt very natural,
feels right.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
I mean that that's where the medic goes crazy when
you're when you're sort of watching sometimes because yeah, and
I think it's so I wish we could have created
a behind the scenes of this season because just the
green room talk and chatter was both hysterically funny more
(19:17):
than ever, but also really sweet. Like watching Zach Zach
just there. I don't think there's anyone that tickles him
as much as Martin Short because he just was read
constantly and doubled over, and Marty is hysterical. But it
was very sweet to watch the two of them work together,
and we all had like the greatest time. Eugene is
(19:41):
Gold and I knew that Steve was wildly excited to
work with Eugene again and loves him so and and
everything about those days, especially in episode three with Richard
Kind and Eugene and Steve Martin, those were days. Do
you just feel like you're sitting on Mount Rushmore of
(20:02):
comedy all the time?
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Yeah, you know we've heard in the past, like on
set and Marty's always the one goofing around like, so
was that still was that still the same or were
there people?
Speaker 5 (20:12):
I mean, Marty is an ever present comedic force on
screen off screen, and you know, I think in truth,
like when people first come on to any show, they're
all they're all lovely professionals and respectful and stuff like that,
and then it all loosened up. It was like, literally
if we only had a campfire in the center of
the room around all the director chairs they were sitting
(20:33):
in for the guests for the green room.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
I love that while Eugene Levey and Charles work on Vince, Fish, Evil,
Longoria and Mabel are with Christmas all the Time. Guy
Kristin Newman, one of the writers, the one we spoke
to you for episode two, she sees a really scary
side of that.
Speaker 7 (20:50):
I don't know, Christmas all the time guy, that pretty
early because you're like, wouldn't it be weird for that
person to be like a single young guy. It's always
you know, it's always going to woman. But it was
just a really muscular, hot young person just dating and
you like, went on a date with some guy from
Tinder and he brought you home and then you saw
(21:10):
Christmas all the time.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
That's a serial killer.
Speaker 7 (21:14):
It's just a other reaction as a woman being brought
home to an apartment than to think I'm definitely with
the serial killer now. So that seemed like a good
spooky character, right.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Yeah, I feel like there's a joker that I can't
find with like a red and green flag, you know
what I mean? Yeah, I think it's a red flag.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
What are you doing here?
Speaker 8 (21:43):
What are you doing here solving a murder?
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Mabell works alone?
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Remember who was there?
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Oh, do we have company?
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Eva? I guess, well, Rudy.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
So I was. I was intrigued by this idea because
just the idea of like how we all do that?
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Right?
Speaker 5 (22:00):
You look across your neighbors into the yard and you
see like someone's doing something weird, and you're like, what
the hell is what is that thing over there? I
don't know what they do it every night?
Speaker 2 (22:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
Like there was a woman I used to live in
an apartment building where I lived over and I watched
her every night, and it was soothing after a while,
but I thought, this is still crazy. She would sit
in her window and there was a light facing her face,
and she had cold cream all over her face, and
she would carefully pluck at her eyebrows every night.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Wow, she's really serious.
Speaker 5 (22:33):
This is fascinating. But it was like a ritual thing
that was happening. But I was like, what is going on?
So I was like, have you seen.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
An eyebrow lady?
Speaker 5 (22:42):
Like, I'm like that, So you do that? We all
do that.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
So did that process take her like ten minutes or
an hour? I'm so curious about it.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
I want to say it was about half an hour
every night. Yeah, it was kind of magnificent. But I
was like, how many Why is there anything left to group.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Quickness? Are these women's eyebrow hairs?
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Girl?
Speaker 2 (23:03):
I know that's the right question.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
But that whole idea of contextualizing someone in that way
and making assumptions felt great. Very only murders in the
building sort of who are they really? What's going on
with them? And that keeps developing, So that all felt
really good. Camel Just I mean the idea that that
(23:27):
just seemed weird that, you know, a great looking guy
was over there amidst all the Christmas decorations. What the
hell is going on? It's like, that really seems suspicious.
It seemed freakish.
Speaker 8 (23:39):
Admit it, Christmas is all you have. Yeah, Christmas and fitness.
Fitness is clearly important to you. That is not lost
on me. But mostly you love Christmas. So when your
scrooge of a neighbor tries to take away your real
Christmas trees.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
You snapped, Eva put the gun.
Speaker 8 (23:55):
Down once you had Charles in your sight.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Even Logoria's unhinged, that is correct you.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
I love the chemistry between all three of them in
that in that scene when they're she starts breaking the
things and then she gets the gun and it's like
so fun.
Speaker 9 (24:12):
Yeah, yeah, doing everything Mabel wouldn't do, and like this
whole thing, the whole world has gone out of control
as suddenly the mess that Oliver found himself in with
Zach that started out that way and then all of
a sudden that feels like it's turned beautiful until it
turns again.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
You know.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Yeah. I loved the Oliver Zach Alfanak his Friendly Friend montage.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
It felt so good That's why it hurts so much
at the end when.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
So many perfect strangers that montage and watching Zach Califanakis
do a bell kick with a with a did luggage car,
Yeah yeah that was. And then Jackie Hoffman in the elevator.
I don't know, the whole thing just was I loved it,
insane but felt very right.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
What's what is the connection to perfect strangers?
Speaker 4 (25:18):
What?
Speaker 10 (25:18):
Are you a huge fan? What's No, it's the Ham Radio.
You know it was we were, you know. I hesitate
to say too much because it still comes around.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
That's fair.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Fairand what we can say is it's not random.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
We could say, no, it's connected, it's connected. There's there's
always random things. I think we sort of build in
random things and specific things, and sometimes they bear out
to be essential clues. Some bear out to be emotional clues,
some bear out to be oh, that's what was going on,
and then there are others that feel much more like
(25:59):
you know, so we'll see, but they all, yeah, they
all have grades of importance.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Yeah. The cliffhanger, I guess at the end of episode
three is that voice on the Ham radio with the accent.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Mm hmm, yeah, yeah, I don't know what my question is.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
No, I know there's a voice with an accent on
the on the on the Ham radio. And yes, well
we have theories. Gosh, I hope we answer that one.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Yeah, me too, me too, Bran, should we tell the
listeners our theory.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
I yeah, I guess this would be the place to
do it. It would be the place I suppose we should because.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
I feel like we've teased our theory, but we feel
like we recognize the voice.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
We could be wrong. We have no clue.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
We are almost always wrong, which is why we don't
share our theories with you listeners, because we're usually wrong.
We think it sounds kind of like Tina.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Fe Is Sandy Canning involved? Again?
Speaker 1 (26:55):
That's what we need to know. What do you think, listeners?
Does it sound like Tina Fey? Do you think Cindy
Canning is involved? Is she going to come back? Let
us know? Thank you all so much for your emails too.
We got some good theories. Here are some of the
things that you guys are thinking.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Anna from Florida believes there is more to the Ham
theme a lot of Ham, and Patty thinks that maybe
all this Ham talk is pointing to a guest appearance
from John Ham. I love that, which is so when
I read that, I was like, yes, I love it,
I love it. I really I hope it's true.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
We also had an interesting theory from Shauna, who thinks
that maybe Saz is the one renting the empty apartment,
and that Jan was using it as a safe house.
That was her banging on the door. Interesting, and that
all that the code is ohell to make it easy
for everybody to remember, and they all kind of use
it to store stuff in it. Okay, all right, interesting idea.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Interesting, Okay, And now here's Hannah from the Only Murders subreddit.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
Hey Maggie, Hey Ryan, and hello to all of the
pod listeners. This week gave us another great episodes with
new leads on new clues and so I am back
with new theories from the Only Murders sabreddit our slash
only Murders who. Firstly, we keep going back and forth
on the topic of the intended target, and this week
people are back to thinking Sas could have been the
(28:12):
real target, but with the addition of Charles potentially being
in danger as well. Jane Specialist four nine eighty eight says,
from what the woman said on the radio, Sas was
the target that night, as she said, the last person
who was investigating got killed. That was Saz, who had
suspicions that somebody near Charles was out to get him.
Could it be that the person in the apartment was
(28:33):
somebody who felt wronged by Charles in the past, and
maybe Sas grew suspicious because she recognized the person during
one of her visits. So, as you can see, people
have many interrogations about what Sas knew, what was she doing,
who was she investigating, and what was a sensitive issue
she wanted to discuss with Charles. At the end of
last season, Oslo eleven says, my theory so far for
(28:53):
this season is that Sas was bringing a cold case
from the past that happened in the building but was
either looked at or unsolved. So she moves into the
building and is staying in the empty apartment overlooking the
trio while she investigates the cold case during the hour
of the killer who still lives there. We obviously all
have many questions surrounding the ominous Dudenoff. Ramblin Rex says,
(29:16):
I don't think Dudonov is a real person, but rather
a made up person all the Westies use as a
way to claim that someone is squatting in that apartment,
so the apartment stays empty and they get it for
free and can use it for leisure activities, storage, etc.
And then out As NTM says, I was just wondering
about Dudonof and all this talk of radio. The apartment
(29:38):
belongs supposedly to M. Doudanoff, and the apartment letter is
f f M. Dudanoff or dudonof FM could be a
radio station. Our members also love an anagram and are
wondering if dudonov could be an anagram or an ambigram
for something, So if any of you have any ideas
on that, let us know when a subreddit. This week
(30:00):
we met another Westy and while Mabel and Eva Longoria
seems to have written him off as a murderer, the
Westies are still suspicious to our members. Practical Check five
Tiery six says each season there are always two secrets.
In the first season we had the death of Tim
and the Dema's grave robbing business. The second season had
(30:21):
the savage painting and Bunny's death, and the third season
had Loretta's secrets and Ben's murder. So I believe that
the Westies have a secrets of their own. People are
also discussing the word sas appears to have written in
her own blood all for Believe and says there is
a tap in Charles's apartment. A bug that's the sensitive
(30:41):
subjects has wanted to talk about. Perhaps she wasn't able
to finish writing, or it has a double meaning for us.
This is supported by the fact that many bugs use
radio frequencies, and ham radios have been a recurrent topic. Finally,
we have service who says, my over the top theory
is a strangers on train kind of plot where someone
(31:03):
in La and someone in New York did murders for
each other so they had alibis, and then possibly the
New York person didn't hold up their end of the
bargain so is at risk from the La killer. So
while there's still no clear suspect on our end, we're
analyzing all the clues and perhaps episode four will come
in with new banging revelations. So I'll be back next
(31:24):
week with more theories from the Only Murders in the Building.
So I've reddit.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Thanks for listening to this episode of Only Murders in
the Building podcast. Please send your thoughts and theories to
us at Only Murders at straw hutmedia dot com. You
can also send us a voice memo and we might
play it on the show.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
We love the voice memos. If you enjoyed the show,
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Speaker 1 (31:51):
Only Murders in the Building Podcast is a production of
straw Hut Media, hosted and produced by Maggie Bowles and
Ryan Tilton. Our associate producer Steven Markley, with original music
by Kyle Merritt and Only Murders in the Building theme
music by said Arthur Cosla is this An editor is
Daniel Ferrara, and production assistant is Caroline Mendoza.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Thank you so much to Richard Kine for talking with
us this week, Thanks to Hannah over at run.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
It, and a big, big, big thanks as always to
John Hoffman and the entire Hulu team.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
See you soon, see you.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Are we recording visually as well well, Richard, we would
love to be able to use little pieces for social
media if you're okay with it. Sure, I look like
an idiot, but yes, let's do it. Okay, all right,
I think you look great good. I'll tell you an
example is I was a waiter years ago. Two of
my favorite shows in the world that I can tell
(32:49):
you every little thing about it was The Mary Tyler
Moore Show and The Dick Van Dyke Show. I loved
those two shows, and what did they have in common?
Was Mary Tyler Moore. I'm a waiter in the Hamptons
and I'm waiting tables on her and I asked her
about the specific questions about the Dick Van Dyke sho
about the Mary Tyler Moore Show, and she said, I'm sorry,
(33:14):
I don't remember. And I'm looking at her, going, You're
a horrible woman. I'm asking you these questions and you
are pretending that you don't know. Today, I know you'll
go through episodes, are mad about Yourriston City. I don't
remember them.
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