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Today we’re talking to husband and wife directing team Robert Pulcini and Shari Springer Berman, Showrunner and Co-Creator John Hoffman, the one and only Eva Longoria, and Michael Cyril Creighton!
We'll talk about Eva Longoria's special connection to Meryl Streep, the choice to bring Season 4 all the way back to Season 1, and of course... the fight!
Heads up, there are spoilers for episode seven. So listeners, if you haven't watched yet, stream it now and come right back!
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Today we’re talking to husband and wife directing team Robert Pulcini and Shari Springer Berman, Showrunner and Co-Creator John Hoffman, the one and only Eva Longoria, and Michael Cyril Creighton!
We'll talk about Eva Longoria's special connection to Meryl Streep, the choice to bring Season 4 all the way back to Season 1, and of course... the fight!
Heads up, there are spoilers for episode seven. So listeners, if you haven't watched yet, stream it now and come right back!
Send us your thoughts and theories (in a voice memo!?): onlymurders@strawhutmedia.com Or chat with fellow fans on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/OnlyMurdersHulu
**The Giveaway**
Want to win tickets to the Only Murders themed escape room!?
There are locations in both Los Angeles and New York. If you’re located around one of those two cities and you’d like to test your mystery solving chops with 3 of your best buds, here’s how you enter.
Leave this podcast a rating and review on Apple or Spotify — wherever you listen from — take a screenshot, and email it to us at onlymurders@strawhutmedia.com. Include which city you want to visit the Escape Room in — either NYC or LA.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Straw Hot Media.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
When we're blocking out the scene to see like Melissa
take out Meryl Streep was like, oh my god. We
were all like, ah, like you get our Meryl Street.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Hello and welcome to the Only Murders in the Building Podcast.
I'm Maggie Bowles and.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
I'm Ryan Tillotson. We're looking behind the scenes and money
for clues as we meet the cast and creators of
the Hulu original series Only Murders in the Building.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Today on the show, we're talking all about season four,
episode seven, Valley of the Dolls.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
With your from husband and wife director team Robert Pulcini
and Sherry Springer Berman, showrunner and co creator John Hoffman,
Eva Longoria, and Michael Cyril Crichton.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
We'll talk about Eva Longoria's special connection to Meryl Streep,
bringing season four back to season one, and of course
the fight.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
But first a quick recap and listeners. There are spoilers
for episode seven, so if you haven't watched it, hip pause,
go watch and come right back. Episode seven, Valley of
the Dolls.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
The trio is in the car heading to Charles's sister's
house in Long Island, where they think they'll be safe
Oliver sends a breakup text Dolorretta and then turns off
his phone and they tell Howard where they'll be.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Charles's sister, Doreene has a house full of dolls, So
I guess you replaced your children with dolls, huh. She
and Charles have a complicated relationship because he accidentally caused
her to lose her spleen as a child.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Bev Mellon shows up. Howard told her where the trio was,
and she's freaking out because the studio wants to pull
the plug on the movie. She wants to know if
the brother's sisters killed anyone.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Dorene has the hots for Oliver and she starts trying
to seduce him. They get drunk on sweaty Betties.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
This is mostly entirely vodka in Crystal Life. You know,
I call it a sweaty Betty named it to my
dear friend also named Betty, who also happens is what
like a pig.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
The actors show up. Zach escaped the hospital to come there,
and they immediately start driving Mabel crazy.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Then Loretta shows up too. Right at the moment that
looks bad between Oliver and Doreen.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
He got cottoner Macramy Duster. We learned that Loretta didn't
hear Oliver's profession of love because they'd given her phone
to her stand in, and they make up for now.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Loretta convinces Mabel to let the actors help with the case,
and Bev Mellon gets drunk.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Meanwhile, Howard is investigating the Bodiga where Dunov's checks have
been cashed. He sees each of the Westies coming in
and cashing Dunov's checks.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Back in Long Island, Oliver tells Loretta about pretending to
be Ronnie. She's very upset. Doreen is getting more and
more jealous of them.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
There's a big fight between Loretta and Doreen. They tussle.
Braids are weaponized.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
My god, what was an actors so light fast off?
After the fight, Loretta proposes to Oliver with a doll bracelet. Bev,
it's the movie back on track and the actors bang
pots to wake up the house.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
They say they've solved the case, and it goes all
the way back to season one.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Bob Pulcini and Sherry Spinerberman directed both episodes seven and eight.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
And their husband and wife like us. I'm curious, like,
did John present this episode to you and like this
is what I think you guys should do, or did
you guys like I want we want this one? How
did that? How does that go?
Speaker 6 (03:38):
We get gifted an episode from John, It's like he's
like Santa and he's like, here, you can work with
Melissa McCarthy and Meryl Street.
Speaker 7 (03:49):
Shelly like, we keep it up with the editor Shelley
because we had we have a long history with her,
and she had at one point said, you know, John's
got this episode that he conceived and he said, thank
god Berman and Pulcini are doing this one. And I said, well,
what does that mean? And she said, I don't know.
It's something about a safe house and it's like packed
(04:12):
with people. And I said, well, we did do this.
You know, we do have a history. We did the
safe room episode of Succession.
Speaker 6 (04:20):
Once we were trapped in We're very we're very safe
room oriented director, not actually have a personal safe room.
We're very unsafe, but in directing we're saved.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Logistically, there's so many people crammed into this what appears
to be a little house. I think I heard it
was a set.
Speaker 6 (04:41):
Well, it was a set. Patrick who is a brilliant
production designer and built us a wonderful set. Although we
did shoot all the exteriors in Long Island, I think Roslyn,
Long Island, and this.
Speaker 7 (04:58):
Set was very much in speed fired by the house,
the exterior that we shot.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Had you seen the inside of that house?
Speaker 7 (05:06):
Patrick did?
Speaker 6 (05:07):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (05:07):
Patrick?
Speaker 8 (05:07):
Did you know?
Speaker 7 (05:08):
And we had seen it a little bit. The family
was so excited to have, you know, a set built
based on Yeah, they.
Speaker 6 (05:16):
Were so excited. They're so excited to see this.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
I love that.
Speaker 7 (05:20):
It was really fun to be out on Long Island
with these people because so much of we do is
kind of close to the sets, and and we would
go in and we go into the Upper west Side. Obviously,
it was fun to kind of get out of town
with them and bring them to a new environment and
out of the city because there's all such urban heights.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
But so being that it was, he built a very nice,
large set for us, so it wasn't hard. It was
actually I would say, the.
Speaker 7 (05:48):
Challenge are you talking about logistically? Are you talking about
because there's so many actors that are huge names to
get them all in a house together.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
That's exactly what I'm talking about.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
Space actual physical because I have coming from independent films,
I have shot in places where literally you can't fit
everybody in the space.
Speaker 7 (06:09):
It was challenging, but we found ways, which is why
we made it a set. We found ways to kind
of make it look like they're all there, but not
always all there, you know, that kind of thing.
Speaker 6 (06:22):
Yes, we had to do a lot of movie magic
because we didn't always have everybody on set at the
same time, although there were maybe like one to two
days where we had everybody on set and they were
like the greatest, most fun days ever I can imagine.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
I mean, you have Melissa McCarthy obviously, but then you
also have Molly Shannon, who's fantastic. That's so funny. In
this episode.
Speaker 7 (06:48):
We had a history with Molly. She was in our
very first movie, American Splendor, and she had a small part.
She's I believe she's from Clevelands, you know, you know
we you know, we're like, will you do this for
us if you're you know, because we were shooting over
I think Thanksgiving. She's like, oh, I'll be there, you know,
And she came in and did this great part for us.
(07:09):
And we had always hoped to work again. It's been years,
but we have we have friends in common, and it
was just great to be around her. And she's so funny.
I mean, every take is different with her. It's never
kind of you know, she doesn't kind of lock in.
It's just like, oh, let's go again and see what happens,
you know, because she's going to do something completely different
(07:30):
the next take.
Speaker 6 (07:30):
The thing that was so amazing was like we were
watching these comedy legends just like one upping each other,
you know, and just like going at it like you know,
just and then Merrill, who like is now a comedy
legend apparently, like she's now moved into that territory in
(07:51):
my opinion, and they were just having so much fun.
I mean, it's I don't I'm sure you've heard this
from every body who works on this show, but it is.
It is like ridiculously fun and you just pinch yourself,
like is this really a job? Like I can't believe
(08:12):
I have the pleasure of being here. There was something
very funny, which is the scene where Molly.
Speaker 7 (08:20):
Is drunk and.
Speaker 6 (08:23):
Kills everybody tells off Bryl and can I want some
drink water?
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Mom?
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Fuck you TV?
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Actor, you know my work work. Let me sum up
the quality of your acting ability in one word.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
It was the funniest thing because Selena could not and
she's sort of on the edge of the shop watching
and she just couldn't. Not like we all were laughing
so hard, but she just she broke every take and
she turned her back and I was like, you know what,
She's like, actually, can't make it through the take. I
just can't do it. And I was like, you know what,
(09:05):
you don't like actors either, right, so you think this
is your character not simply to go. Mabel is like
annoyed by these actors who think that they can solve
the case. So you would be laughing at her teeling off,
so let's just go with it. So she was like,
oh god, yes, it's a good that's the way to
do it, because it was impossible to make it through
(09:27):
that take without laughing.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
She was so funny, so funny.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
I remember she did one take like maybe the first
tick was a little bit like not you know, not
a subtle, quiet take, but not like where she could go.
And John was like, we gotta rever up, and I'm like,
don't worry she's gonna get rev by like take three.
It was like just crazy and hysterical, and and then
(09:55):
we just kept going, We're like, go, let's do it again,
you know, and it was and every time she killed it.
Speaker 9 (10:02):
Can't take it anymore, bro, I'm done with Hollywood, middle child,
single moment, no high hill, right with the great Bucker.
Speaker 7 (10:15):
See, I was. I was just so excited to work
with Eugene Levey and I you know, I grew like
sc TV. I kind of have this little mental checkbox
of how many of them I've worked with, you know,
in my in my career, and I had never worked
with Eugene Levy and he was everything I would hope
he would be.
Speaker 6 (10:33):
And Zach and Eva were great. I mean, it was
so it was so fun. She's so funny, so funny.
We had so much fun with her. I mean it
just again, it was like one of those jobs where
it's not a job. It's like, this is too much fun.
Everybody is so amazing.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
That's what it.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Sounds like that everyone says, yeah, that sounds incredible.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
When I found out it was Eugene Levey and Zach
gallipanak is, I mean, day one on set, we all
are scenes together. It was like it was we were
this trio.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
That's the voice of Eva Longoria. Of course she plays
Eva Longoria, who plays.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Mabel, and so we spent a lot of time together.
And Zach is the greatest guy in the world, Like
I love that man so much. And you know, Eugene
is just a genius and you just watch you know,
and he's old friends with Steve and Marty. They're very
(11:28):
old friends, and so they all have stories. So just
listening to them on set was really fun. But like
us as a trio, we we had so much, so
much fun, and we were talking about war stories and
different shows that we've done. And because all of us
were directors, you know, we traded a lot of we
traded a lot of directing stories of like when I
(11:48):
directed this, and oh when I directed this, and they're like,
oh my gosh. So so that was really a treat
to really, you know, all the other days we're like
this crazy day of all these amazing actors and people
pop in and out and in and out. But me
and Zach and Eugene kind of became really really close,
and I feel like there's a show, there's a spinoff
to be had there.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Yeah, when you guys are solving your own murders.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Yeah, I love it. Oh that's so great.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Oh my god, I love that. Only murders in the building,
the Hollywood version, you know, only murders.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Yeah, in the industry.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
I don't know. I'm trying to think of weather.
Speaker 10 (12:27):
Title.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
The industry. Oh my god. Let's pitch it to John Hoffman.
Let's pitch it.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
We will talk about the actors and their murder board
or murder wall later on, but first we have to
talk about Melissa McCarthy.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
We knew she was going to be in this season
from the trailer and the poster, but this episode exceeded
even our wildest imaginings. Here's John Hoffman.
Speaker 8 (12:50):
I just could eat her up right. I just love
her so much. And Melissa McCarthy. There was a moment gosh,
I think it was second season, and there was a
moment where we were trying to get Melissa on the
show at some point and then she was. It didn't
work out, you know, but we had a great connection
in that moment. So when this part came up, we
(13:12):
really were thinking, like, we want to make a feast
for a great comedic actress and then calling her about
this part, and she's been such a lovely fan of
the show and has gotten her kids and her family
are all into it. They buy sweatshirts with only Murders
in the building that she gives a Christmas and that
she really is that person. So I'm like, oh, okay,
(13:34):
we got to try and make something happen. So I
was hopeful that she might be interested in doing it.
But to walk her through her character, I just said, okay,
so your name is Doreen and she said I'm in
and I was like what, and she said, I love
the name. I'm in. I'm like, waite, okay, wait, hold on.
Then I started going beat by beat and saying, you're
(13:55):
Charles's sister. When you were three, he pushed you on
a swing and you had to lose your so he
feels very guilty about that. She says, I'm in, and
then it kept going and going and going and going
till the point when we got into the wild moment
between Madam merrow Street and Madam Melissa McCarthy. That is
(14:15):
one for.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
The ages, absolutely one for the ages.
Speaker 8 (14:20):
You didn't see it coming. What did you do? Did
you have a sense.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
I can't say that I ever expect, not at all.
I mean, I can see the tension that was building,
but I did not think it was going to build
into a fight.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
No, absolutely not.
Speaker 8 (14:36):
And I fall on like, can I share about that
a little bit? Oh please?
Speaker 3 (14:40):
That is a big question.
Speaker 8 (14:42):
It was one of the great days. That whole episode
in every way was such a mind blower just looking
everyone on set was looking around at everyone on set,
and we were all sort of like, this is like
an unbelievable collection of spectacularly brilliant talent and all of
us in the same amazing set that Patrick Howe and
(15:03):
his team built for that long Island home. But when
we got to doing that scene, that particular fight scene,
Merrill and Melissa were there, and you know, our great
stunt team led by Chris Barnes, had put together for
like a week before that, working with stunt doubles to
do what was funny versions of it. We would look
(15:26):
at versions of it and all of that's but until
we got there on the day, Marilyn Melissa were there
and I said, okay, you two come over here, look
at what Chris Barnes has done, and let's see what
we can start mapping out for this and see how
we shoot it and how we can achieve this. And
they watched it and they both mutually looked at each
other and they said yeah, uh uh, and I was
(15:50):
like what and they both went yet no, No, I'm
like no, like no it it needs to go about
ten times. I's farther. And I was like, okay. And
then they started working this out, the two of them,
the two of them Wow. And I watched and Meryl
(16:14):
suggest throwing herself in a total somersault over this couch
on her neck, falling down. The whole thing was all
mapped out by them. And then I'm going to grab
your duster and I'm going to kick you in the
face with my like and then you're gonna go over
that way. We're gonna have to scream. We're gonna pull
(16:34):
off your braid. The whole thing was them putting it together.
And each time I was like, Meryl Streep is going
to break her neck on our set, Like that's what's
going to happen, And it really could have happened, but
there was no stopping either one of them, and they
were I just loved watching that process and everyone around
(16:56):
Selena Gomez, those reactions of just like, oh, oh my god,
like it was all real. We have maybe one glimmer
of a shot of a stunt double just for a
later shot we got, but that is all them the
whole time. And they did it several times and I
was like, I we were holding our breath each time,
but because we never knew what we're going to get,
(17:17):
but they kept it tight. But they really.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Built that thing.
Speaker 6 (17:21):
Like, honestly, Meryl Streep could be a stun person. If
she didn't, you know, it wasn't the greatest actress of
all times.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Now back to directors Sherry and Bob.
Speaker 6 (17:32):
Like she was incredible, like flailing around and her Melissa
really were amazing. I mean, Melissa, we know is an
amazing physical comedian and together it was just everybody. After
every take that they did it, there was like a
standing ovation from the cast and.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Crew who was all watching while you guys are the shooting.
Speaker 6 (17:55):
Hats, there were people coming down. I've never had this
on any show that I've ever done, or any movie
I've ever made, where we actually had people who were
like working on the show, who came to set who
were like, we can't.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
We got to see Meryl Street McCarthy.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
I would be there in a second.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
So we had an audience. It was like a play.
We had like a full audience, and after every take
they got like like people were dying laughing, somebody was crying.
There was someone who's crying. It was like, I can't
believe I'm seeing this. It was insane and they had
so much fun with it. I can't even tell you.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
So ultimately that you ended up not using the stunt
people at all. They wanted to do every bit, like.
Speaker 7 (18:43):
Only after it was all in the can you know
to kind of they were like, okay, can you do
what they did?
Speaker 6 (18:51):
People copied them so that we could get other people's coverage,
So we make Melissa and Meryll do the stunt thirty times, right,
So so the STU people did it, as you know,
for us to get coverage, but the actual stuff they
on it themselves, Wow, and wouldn't have it any other way.
(19:11):
There was no convincing them otherwise.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Amazing.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
I mean, I knew, I feel like I knew Melissa
would be would totally do that, But it's a surprise
that Meryl is on board for that kind.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Of surprising to me.
Speaker 6 (19:24):
It's not no, no, she's all she was like, I'm
dying to do this, I'm doing it, and that was it.
It was, that's so cool, and you know what she
was really kicking Melissa's ass.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Well, when Melissa walks out with the braid with the
braids on, I just like completely lost it. And I
also think that contributed to her losing the fight, yes.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
Because she got the braids. We we just we discussed
it and that comes that. One of the ideas I
had from my move that I loved, uh Valley of
the Dolls is there's a very famous scene where one
of the leads pulls off the other leads wig and
like starts running around with it and like throws it
in the toilet. And so it was like, Okay, we're
(20:16):
gonna use the these braids as part of the fight,
and that sort of is an homage to Valley the Dolls.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
I love that.
Speaker 6 (20:25):
And Zach and Eva were great. I mean, it was
so it was so fun again stuff that like we
couldn't use all of it, but we did their intervening
and the fighting. You know, their reactions to the fight,
you know, it was hysterical, you know, just seeing them
screaming on the side and.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Yes, yeah, Eva screaming Gale Gail, Yes, And she was
so good at that.
Speaker 6 (20:48):
I'm like, wow, you must really watch, like, you know,
she knew every detail.
Speaker 7 (20:55):
She was perfect.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Hey, great, you got a You're gonna get your handed
it for total.
Speaker 7 (21:03):
Eliadison and Charro.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
We asked Evil Angoria if she had ever pictured herself
screaming kill into the face of Meryl Streep and Melissa McCarthy.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Nope, not in my wildest acting dreams. What I have
imagined a scene like this and then Melissa with this
crazy wig and this like was it long Island accent?
I mean, it was just she was just you know,
she's a genius, but like she always constantly reinvents herself
in every role, and you just go like, you're I
just can't, I can't with you. It was definitely a
(21:37):
surreal pinch me moment because not only it was like
all these amazing comedic actors Eugene Lady and Zach Galavanakis
and Meryl Streep and Melissa McCarthy and uh and myself
now and I mean that house and Steve and Marty
and Selena, and it was like, not only was it like,
oh my god, we're all acting together, but we are
(21:59):
all in the green. We're all on set. Nobody goes
back to their to their I would say, trailers. Nobody
goes back to their dressing room. Nobody does not hang
out on set like it was just the conversations. Offset
too was like, really, you know, pinch mem dreaming moments,
but yeah, we're blocking out the scene to see like
Melissa take out Meryl Street. Was like, oh my god.
(22:23):
We were all like, oh, like, you're gonna Meryl Street.
But they had the stunt coordinator and then they you know,
added a line and they're Eva jumped down there and
and start screaming in their face. I was like, because
I'm screaming in Meryl and Melissa's face and just like
come chuck her out, and they were kill kill kill,
Like please stop, please stop.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
Yeah, after the break with the real Eva Longoria and
the Hollywood Eva Longoria have in common, and do actors
really make good detectives? Welcome back. It's probably not a
(23:06):
shock that Eva Longoria on Only Murders in the Building
is not exactly the same as Eva Longoria in real life,
but they do share certain qualities.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Here's Eva John and I We're talking on the phone,
and he was just so lovely and he's so charming
and he's such a great writer. And he was like, look,
it's gonna be a it's not gonna be you. It's
gonna be like a heightened version of you. And I
was like, yes, push it make me crazy. And he
loved that idea that I was like, even even crazier
than then I normally am. So it was like really
fun to meet create this character quote unquote create this
(23:38):
character with him.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Since we didn't get a chance to talk to Eva
back for episode three, which was directed by Chris Kotch,
we had to ask her about that crazy scene with
Christmas all the Time guy and Maybel. You know when
she starts breaking things and she fires the gun.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Does this piss you off?
Speaker 8 (23:53):
What?
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (23:55):
What about this?
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Who oh? And by the way, r eggnog sucks?
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (24:01):
What you can do about you? And cry?
Speaker 1 (24:03):
You can cry about it.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
I loved the director of this episode because that scene
was really hard to block. It was very physical comedy,
which is what I love. I loved physical comedy, and
so I remember shooting the scene. I was like, I
don't know, was it funny enough was it, Because there's
a lot of technical stuff like reset with breaking of
the glass and so you only have two times with that,
and so it got a little technical and I thought
it felt clunky when we were shooting it. And then
(24:25):
John actually, no, it was Marty. It was Marty or Steve.
It was Steve Martin and he came up to me
when we were shooting like episode eight, and Steve goes,
I just watched the cut of the episode with the
Christmas guy and oh my god, you're so funny, and
I was like, oh.
Speaker 6 (24:41):
Yeah, Steve Martin said I was funny.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
So that was that made my life. I mean, not
my year, my life.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
That's huge. Oh I love it.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
When we were talking to Ben Smith and Pete Swanson,
they were saying how much fun it was that they
were writing all of these crazy things for you to do,
and they'd be like, Eva Longoria might not do this, though,
she she might just like kick this out or whatever,
and they're like she was game to do anything. Basically, like,
were there was there ever like a joke where you
(25:11):
were like, I don't know, guys, this might be a
little too much, or were you just like, oh.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
No, I feel like because we established this heightened evilngoria,
I didn't have to protect it so much. It's not
like I didn't want to look bad. It was like,
oh my god, go go go. And so it was like,
once we were in that space, anything goes as opposed
to like, oh, you know, let's pull back. If we
kept pulling back, then then it would have you know,
not really landed, or you wouldn't have earned all those moments.
(25:40):
So no, no, I was like, let's go. Should I
pull the gun off the wall? They're like yeah, I
was like, great, let's do it.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
That was your idea?
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Yeah, I feel like it was. I feel like all
the good stuff was my idea. But of course, you know,
directors and writers like to take all the grad ahead.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
So well, that really heightened the scene. So it was great.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Yeah, So what is What do you think are the
big differences between Eva Longoria on only Murders in the
Building and Eva Longoria in real life? Besides maybe she's crazier,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Crazier Oh my god, yeah, well her ego, I mean,
Eva in real life does not have that big of
an ego. I mean, the things that came out of
her mouth to Selena Gomez, I would never say, but
but the evil Andoria on murders in the building to Mabel, Yes,
that's what she would say. You know, she's like, oh,
I hate your name. Oh you're just a pile of
(26:38):
mope sweaters, Like, oh my god. I was like, she's
so mean. So I think I think fictional Evil Longoria
is a little meaner.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
But also you know, gets able to take you know,
get a buttload of money, and yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Well that is evil. That is me. I'm like a
girl's girl and I'm like, girl, this is what you
got to do. So that would be me in real
life too. I would have given her that advice in
real life she obviously doesn't need it, you know what
I mean, She's doing fine.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
The important takeaway for me is that there's some crossover
of real Eva Longoria in that she would be teaching
Mabel how to got to get that money, Yeah, how
to advocate for herself and make the best out of
that financial opportunity.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Yeah, that would be me for sure.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Did you have any conversations with Selena Gomez about the
cable and Eva Longoria and their interactions and kind of
like how that would play off of each other.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
No, No, I think it was better that way because
you know, I'm really like I'd come in like a tornado,
and I kind of worked better. I think acting it
was it was like, yeah, this makes sense that she's
like whoa what wait, what is happening? Who are you?
Where are we? What? Like? So I did, like, I
(27:52):
like that. Probably we didn't. We didn't talk about it.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
Yeah, yeah, Mabel, Mabel, Mabel.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
You know you know Meryl a little trivia. Maryl and
I are cousins.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Are you?
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Miss, I had no idea.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
You guys did not do your research.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
No, we did not.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Geez, Yes, Marril and I are cousins. We're distant cousins.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
So do you guys see each other at family gatherings?
Speaker 8 (28:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Yeah, family means we call each other cousin. Every time
we see each other. We call it, okay, cousin, Hey, cousin.
People are like, what yes, because we both did that
DNA show with Doctor Gates and yes, that was so good.
They do six people per episode, and when you're on
the episode, to the six people the episode, they cross
reference to your DNA to see if you share an ancestor.
(28:40):
In the last hundred years, and so at the end
of the show, they go, do you want to know
if you're related to somebody? I go yes, and they
go Meryl Streep and I was like, what so and
then they told her. And then I saw at an
awards show one time and my friend's like, go up
to her, go tell her your cousins. I go, I
am not going up to Meryl Streep and telling her
we're cousins. I'm standing there and I hear cousin. And
(29:03):
she came up to me and she's the one that
was like, we're related. I was like, I know.
Speaker 6 (29:09):
I didn't want to bother you.
Speaker 10 (29:12):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
That's amazing. That is such a good story. I love
I love knowing that a true family of greatness.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Yeah, Meryl has a little Latina in her or I
have a little English and me I don't know.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Well, so I mean Meryl's uh. Loretta does come to
actors defense and says they are investigators of the human condition.
Do you do you think you would trust actors to
solve a murder?
Speaker 2 (29:43):
I would. I'm of the same mentality which I think,
you know, actors would make great CIA agents or great spies.
We would make great uh, you know, uh, psychologists like,
really tell me how you're feeling. I mean, if we
didn't have, you know, big egos and so I do
(30:06):
think like actors do are you know, are these really deep, thoughtful,
you know, humanity seeking people? And through that, I think
you could find a murderer for sure.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
Well, you guys definitely uncovered some big stuff in episode seven,
bringing it all the way back to season one. I
know that's going to be very exciting for people.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
I was so excited. I was like, will I be
the murder? Will I die? Will I be the murdered?
Am I the murderer?
Speaker 9 (30:37):
And uh?
Speaker 2 (30:38):
And everything was so tight lipped, and I think it
all unfolds perfectly. I also do like that this season's
target was not like a random, random person in the
apartment building.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
I know, I agree. Yeah, did it when in the
process did you find out? Because I hear you know
I found out we found out what in season two?
Who the murderer? Didn't find out until the very end
that she was the murderer?
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Oh yeah, No, I never knew. I still don't know.
Speaker 11 (31:07):
So it was a bit, it was a lot of
It was a lot of red herrings, and that's what
makes this show so great was you know, wait, okay,
it's totally that guy.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
No, Oh my god, it was her.
Speaker 8 (31:22):
I knew it.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
I knew it was her, you know. So I love
that It's like it takes turns and twists every episode.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Now, who else uncovers some very important information this episode?
He's certain someone who is not at the house on
Long Island but is present nonetheless, here's actor Michael Cyril Creighton.
Speaker 10 (31:40):
So I initially was pretty bummed that I wasn't part
of the you know, the main storyline at seven in
that house on Long.
Speaker 7 (31:46):
Island, which is my homeland.
Speaker 10 (31:48):
I was initially pretty bummed, but then I loved Howard's
storyline in that episode, and I loved that actor who
played the man in the bodega.
Speaker 7 (31:56):
We had so much fun that day.
Speaker 10 (31:58):
Oh there's another animal another so this season it was
a dog, cat and okig. But that was that was
a pretty special day too, just because I don't usually
get to act with new actors that don't I haven't
met before on this show. So that was a really
fun day. And I love how that episode turned out.
Speaker 7 (32:18):
Overall. I think it's so great.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Yeah, and Howard is responsible for everybody being in that
house too, you.
Speaker 10 (32:24):
Know, I know, because that's what's great about this too,
is like Howard, even when he's not on the screen,
he's so involved this season. He's so part of everything,
and that's like Howard's.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Dream, but he's doing it.
Speaker 7 (32:36):
He's doing it.
Speaker 8 (32:38):
Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
Yeah, just like in the show, Howard is sprinkled throughout
the podcast too.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
By the end of the episode, the Hollywood Trio has
a new fund confidence in their ability to solve crimes.
Here again is Eva Longoria.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
It's so fun because we do go back. We we
we eventually leave the house and we go back into
the into the real world to go figure out, you know,
the murder. And the fun thing about like you know,
eight nine and ten is like the actors are now
trying to take over. We think we know best. Oh,
I love it, and guys just step aside. Okay, let
(33:13):
the real people do this. And they're like, you're not real,
Like you're not any better than us. We're like, but
we are. And so that's a lot of fun that
we have in eight and nine.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
All Right, let's close out today's episode by asking John
Hoffman about this huge breakthrough that the actors have admitting
to plot holes, perhaps intentional plotals, all the way back
to season one.
Speaker 8 (33:36):
It all goes back to season one, which by the way,
has more holes than Jack Elliphan.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
That tell us about that decision to bring it back
to season one.
Speaker 8 (33:48):
It's a great question, Maggie, and I think a lot
of people who are fans of the show will be
very interested in this answer. So I'm watching my words
a little more carefully, and it's it's one that we've
talked about a long time, and there are some answers,
maybe not all. So that's all I'm going to say right.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Now, Wait and see. Is that the answer?
Speaker 6 (34:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (34:12):
But I loved I loved the turn. The most important
thing was like having some great revealed turn for these
actors at the end of this episode, and that felt right.
And then more importantly, the fact that it tied into
something that had a longer game thought behind it feels
really good as well. To me.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Do you think that viewers should go back and watch
season one again?
Speaker 8 (34:36):
Well? Sure, I mean I still want to.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Will that help them solve the mystery?
Speaker 8 (34:43):
Don't you want to know who poison Witty?
Speaker 1 (34:45):
I do.
Speaker 8 (34:46):
We've said it right from the beginning. Mabel is saying
it right at the end of season one, there's some
loose ends. Yeah, plot holes are brought up throughout this
whole season. You know. I think with any mystery, with
any endeavor of getting something right, you're exposing other things
that might not add up, and you kind of have
(35:06):
to look away from it or just leave it by
the wayside as you're following something more intriguing. So I
think that being a part of an ongoing series based
on murder mysteries and one building and what possibly could
have been a bigger story that may not end here yet,
we'll see, Oh my.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Goodness, okay, okay, or me or may we'll see.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
That's it for today, Thanks so much for listening. I
had a really hard time with the Easter Egg this week.
Maybe it's the reflection of the house in Long Island
on the windows. I don't know, what do you?
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Did?
Speaker 4 (35:56):
You see it, Ryan, only when you watched it like
four times.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
I watched it four times, all right, So listeners, please
let me know what the East dragg was if it
wasn't that, because that felt too subtle.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
We'll be back in a few days with Molly Shannon.
Molly Shannon plus more with John Hoffman and Bob and
Sherry because we have not even talked about the dolls.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
We haven't talked about the dolls, which is what I
thought I would see in the opening credits, but I
didn't see it. Anyways. Please send us your thoughts and
theories to Only Murders at strawhutmedia dot com.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
Take a minute to subscribe, rate the show, follow us,
and leave us a review if you enjoy the show.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Only Murders in the Building Podcast is a production of
straw Hut Media, hosted and produced by Ryan Tilton and
Maggie Bowles. Our associate producer is Stephen Markley. Original music
by Kyle Merrett and Only Murders in the Building theme
music by Siddartha Cosla. Our assistant editor is Daniel Ferreira.
Our production assistant is Caroline Mendoza.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
Thank you so much to Robert Paulcini, Sherry Springer, Berman,
Eva Longoria, and Michael Cyrol Crichton. We're talking with us
this week.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
And big, big, big things. As always to John Hoffman
and the entire Hulu team.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
See you soon.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Bye.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
I'm so sorry. There's like a delay. There's like a
five second delay.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
So it's okay, we're gonna make it work. So just
well we'll okay, we cut out the delay.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Okay, yeah, can you still hear me? Sorry? Oh now
I'm losing you. Okay, okay, I'm going to keep you here.
Oh no, no, right, okay, okay, okay. I think it's back.
(37:59):
I think his back, so I'm going to keep going
Straw Hot Media.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
When we're blocking out the scene to see like Melissa
take out Meryl Streep was like, oh my god. We
were all like, ah, like you get our Meryl Street.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Hello and welcome to the Only Murders in the Building Podcast.
I'm Maggie Bowles and.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
I'm Ryan Tillotson. We're looking behind the scenes and money
for clues as we meet the cast and creators of
the Hulu original series Only Murders in the Building.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Today on the show, we're talking all about season four,
episode seven, Valley of the Dolls.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
With your from husband and wife director team Robert Pulcini
and Sherry Springer Berman, showrunner and co creator John Hoffman,
Eva Longoria, and Michael Cyril Crichton.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
We'll talk about Eva Longoria's special connection to Meryl Streep,
bringing season four back to season one, and of course
the fight.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
But first a quick recap and listeners. There are spoilers
for episode seven, so if you haven't watched it, hip pause,
go watch and come right back. Episode seven, Valley of
the Dolls.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
The trio is in the car heading to Charles's sister's
house in Long Island, where they think they'll be safe
Oliver sends a breakup text Dolorretta and then turns off
his phone and they tell Howard where they'll be.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Charles's sister, Doreene has a house full of dolls, So
I guess you replaced your children with dolls, huh. She
and Charles have a complicated relationship because he accidentally caused
her to lose her spleen as a child.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Bev Mellon shows up. Howard told her where the trio was,
and she's freaking out because the studio wants to pull
the plug on the movie. She wants to know if
the brother's sisters killed anyone.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Dorene has the hots for Oliver and she starts trying
to seduce him. They get drunk on sweaty Betties.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
This is mostly entirely vodka in Crystal Life. You know,
I call it a sweaty Betty named it to my
dear friend also named Betty, who also happens is what
like a pig.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
The actors show up. Zach escaped the hospital to come there,
and they immediately start driving Mabel crazy.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Then Loretta shows up too. Right at the moment that
looks bad between Oliver and Doreen.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
He got cottoner Macramy Duster. We learned that Loretta didn't
hear Oliver's profession of love because they'd given her phone
to her stand in, and they make up for now.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Loretta convinces Mabel to let the actors help with the case,
and Bev Mellon gets drunk.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Meanwhile, Howard is investigating the Bodiga where Dunov's checks have
been cashed. He sees each of the Westies coming in
and cashing Dunov's checks.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Back in Long Island, Oliver tells Loretta about pretending to
be Ronnie. She's very upset. Doreen is getting more and
more jealous of them.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
There's a big fight between Loretta and Doreen. They tussle.
Braids are weaponized.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
My god, what was an actors so light fast off?
After the fight, Loretta proposes to Oliver with a doll bracelet. Bev,
it's the movie back on track and the actors bang
pots to wake up the house.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
They say they've solved the case, and it goes all
the way back to season one.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Bob Pulcini and Sherry Spinerberman directed both episodes seven and eight.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
And their husband and wife like us. I'm curious, like,
did John present this episode to you and like this
is what I think you guys should do, or did
you guys like I want we want this one? How
did that? How does that go?
Speaker 6 (03:38):
We get gifted an episode from John, It's like he's
like Santa and he's like, here, you can work with
Melissa McCarthy and Meryl Street.
Speaker 7 (03:49):
Shelly like, we keep it up with the editor Shelley
because we had we have a long history with her,
and she had at one point said, you know, John's
got this episode that he conceived and he said, thank
god Berman and Pulcini are doing this one. And I said, well,
what does that mean? And she said, I don't know.
It's something about a safe house and it's like packed
(04:12):
with people. And I said, well, we did do this.
You know, we do have a history. We did the
safe room episode of Succession.
Speaker 6 (04:20):
Once we were trapped in We're very we're very safe
room oriented director, not actually have a personal safe room.
We're very unsafe, but in directing we're saved.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Logistically, there's so many people crammed into this what appears
to be a little house. I think I heard it
was a set.
Speaker 6 (04:41):
Well, it was a set. Patrick who is a brilliant
production designer and built us a wonderful set. Although we
did shoot all the exteriors in Long Island, I think Roslyn,
Long Island, and this.
Speaker 7 (04:58):
Set was very much in speed fired by the house,
the exterior that we shot.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Had you seen the inside of that house?
Speaker 7 (05:06):
Patrick did?
Speaker 6 (05:07):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (05:07):
Patrick?
Speaker 8 (05:07):
Did you know?
Speaker 7 (05:08):
And we had seen it a little bit. The family
was so excited to have, you know, a set built
based on Yeah, they.
Speaker 6 (05:16):
Were so excited. They're so excited to see this.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
I love that.
Speaker 7 (05:20):
It was really fun to be out on Long Island
with these people because so much of we do is
kind of close to the sets, and and we would
go in and we go into the Upper west Side. Obviously,
it was fun to kind of get out of town
with them and bring them to a new environment and
out of the city because there's all such urban heights.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
But so being that it was, he built a very nice,
large set for us, so it wasn't hard. It was
actually I would say, the.
Speaker 7 (05:48):
Challenge are you talking about logistically? Are you talking about
because there's so many actors that are huge names to
get them all in a house together.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
That's exactly what I'm talking about.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
Space actual physical because I have coming from independent films,
I have shot in places where literally you can't fit
everybody in the space.
Speaker 7 (06:09):
It was challenging, but we found ways, which is why
we made it a set. We found ways to kind
of make it look like they're all there, but not
always all there, you know, that kind of thing.
Speaker 6 (06:22):
Yes, we had to do a lot of movie magic
because we didn't always have everybody on set at the
same time, although there were maybe like one to two
days where we had everybody on set and they were
like the greatest, most fun days ever I can imagine.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
I mean, you have Melissa McCarthy obviously, but then you
also have Molly Shannon, who's fantastic. That's so funny. In
this episode.
Speaker 7 (06:48):
We had a history with Molly. She was in our
very first movie, American Splendor, and she had a small part.
She's I believe she's from Clevelands, you know, you know
we you know, we're like, will you do this for
us if you're you know, because we were shooting over
I think Thanksgiving. She's like, oh, I'll be there, you know,
And she came in and did this great part for us.
(07:09):
And we had always hoped to work again. It's been years,
but we have we have friends in common, and it
was just great to be around her. And she's so funny.
I mean, every take is different with her. It's never
kind of you know, she doesn't kind of lock in.
It's just like, oh, let's go again and see what happens,
you know, because she's going to do something completely different
(07:30):
the next take.
Speaker 6 (07:30):
The thing that was so amazing was like we were
watching these comedy legends just like one upping each other,
you know, and just like going at it like you know,
just and then Merrill, who like is now a comedy
legend apparently, like she's now moved into that territory in
(07:51):
my opinion, and they were just having so much fun.
I mean, it's I don't I'm sure you've heard this
from every body who works on this show, but it is.
It is like ridiculously fun and you just pinch yourself,
like is this really a job? Like I can't believe
(08:12):
I have the pleasure of being here. There was something
very funny, which is the scene where Molly.
Speaker 7 (08:20):
Is drunk and.
Speaker 6 (08:23):
Kills everybody tells off Bryl and can I want some
drink water?
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Mom?
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Fuck you TV?
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Actor, you know my work work. Let me sum up
the quality of your acting ability in one word.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
It was the funniest thing because Selena could not and
she's sort of on the edge of the shop watching
and she just couldn't. Not like we all were laughing
so hard, but she just she broke every take and
she turned her back and I was like, you know what,
She's like, actually, can't make it through the take. I
just can't do it. And I was like, you know what,
(09:05):
you don't like actors either, right, so you think this
is your character not simply to go. Mabel is like
annoyed by these actors who think that they can solve
the case. So you would be laughing at her teeling off,
so let's just go with it. So she was like,
oh god, yes, it's a good that's the way to
do it, because it was impossible to make it through
(09:27):
that take without laughing.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
She was so funny, so funny.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
I remember she did one take like maybe the first
tick was a little bit like not you know, not
a subtle, quiet take, but not like where she could go.
And John was like, we gotta rever up, and I'm like,
don't worry she's gonna get rev by like take three.
It was like just crazy and hysterical, and and then
(09:55):
we just kept going, We're like, go, let's do it again,
you know, and it was and every time she killed it.
Speaker 9 (10:02):
Can't take it anymore, bro, I'm done with Hollywood, middle child,
single moment, no high hill, right with the great Bucker.
Speaker 7 (10:15):
See, I was. I was just so excited to work
with Eugene Levey and I you know, I grew like
sc TV. I kind of have this little mental checkbox
of how many of them I've worked with, you know,
in my in my career, and I had never worked
with Eugene Levy and he was everything I would hope
he would be.
Speaker 6 (10:33):
And Zach and Eva were great. I mean, it was
so it was so fun. She's so funny, so funny.
We had so much fun with her. I mean it
just again, it was like one of those jobs where
it's not a job. It's like, this is too much fun.
Everybody is so amazing.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
That's what it.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Sounds like that everyone says, yeah, that sounds incredible.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
When I found out it was Eugene Levey and Zach
gallipanak is, I mean, day one on set, we all
are scenes together. It was like it was we were
this trio.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
That's the voice of Eva Longoria. Of course she plays
Eva Longoria, who plays.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Mabel, and so we spent a lot of time together.
And Zach is the greatest guy in the world, Like
I love that man so much. And you know, Eugene
is just a genius and you just watch you know,
and he's old friends with Steve and Marty. They're very
(11:28):
old friends, and so they all have stories. So just
listening to them on set was really fun. But like
us as a trio, we we had so much, so
much fun, and we were talking about war stories and
different shows that we've done. And because all of us
were directors, you know, we traded a lot of we
traded a lot of directing stories of like when I
(11:48):
directed this, and oh when I directed this, and they're like,
oh my gosh. So so that was really a treat
to really, you know, all the other days we're like
this crazy day of all these amazing actors and people
pop in and out and in and out. But me
and Zach and Eugene kind of became really really close,
and I feel like there's a show, there's a spinoff
to be had there.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Yeah, when you guys are solving your own murders.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Yeah, I love it. Oh that's so great.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Oh my god, I love that. Only murders in the building,
the Hollywood version, you know, only murders.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Yeah, in the industry.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
I don't know. I'm trying to think of weather.
Speaker 10 (12:27):
Title.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
The industry. Oh my god. Let's pitch it to John Hoffman.
Let's pitch it.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
We will talk about the actors and their murder board
or murder wall later on, but first we have to
talk about Melissa McCarthy.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
We knew she was going to be in this season
from the trailer and the poster, but this episode exceeded
even our wildest imaginings. Here's John Hoffman.
Speaker 8 (12:50):
I just could eat her up right. I just love
her so much. And Melissa McCarthy. There was a moment gosh,
I think it was second season, and there was a
moment where we were trying to get Melissa on the
show at some point and then she was. It didn't
work out, you know, but we had a great connection
in that moment. So when this part came up, we
(13:12):
really were thinking, like, we want to make a feast
for a great comedic actress and then calling her about
this part, and she's been such a lovely fan of
the show and has gotten her kids and her family
are all into it. They buy sweatshirts with only Murders
in the building that she gives a Christmas and that
she really is that person. So I'm like, oh, okay,
(13:34):
we got to try and make something happen. So I
was hopeful that she might be interested in doing it.
But to walk her through her character, I just said, okay,
so your name is Doreen and she said I'm in
and I was like what, and she said, I love
the name. I'm in. I'm like, waite, okay, wait, hold on.
Then I started going beat by beat and saying, you're
(13:55):
Charles's sister. When you were three, he pushed you on
a swing and you had to lose your so he
feels very guilty about that. She says, I'm in, and
then it kept going and going and going and going
till the point when we got into the wild moment
between Madam merrow Street and Madam Melissa McCarthy. That is
(14:15):
one for.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
The ages, absolutely one for the ages.
Speaker 8 (14:20):
You didn't see it coming. What did you do? Did
you have a sense.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
I can't say that I ever expect, not at all.
I mean, I can see the tension that was building,
but I did not think it was going to build
into a fight.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
No, absolutely not.
Speaker 8 (14:36):
And I fall on like, can I share about that
a little bit? Oh please?
Speaker 3 (14:40):
That is a big question.
Speaker 8 (14:42):
It was one of the great days. That whole episode
in every way was such a mind blower just looking
everyone on set was looking around at everyone on set,
and we were all sort of like, this is like
an unbelievable collection of spectacularly brilliant talent and all of
us in the same amazing set that Patrick Howe and
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his team built for that long Island home. But when
we got to doing that scene, that particular fight scene,
Merrill and Melissa were there, and you know, our great
stunt team led by Chris Barnes, had put together for
like a week before that, working with stunt doubles to
do what was funny versions of it. We would look
(15:26):
at versions of it and all of that's but until
we got there on the day, Marilyn Melissa were there
and I said, okay, you two come over here, look
at what Chris Barnes has done, and let's see what
we can start mapping out for this and see how
we shoot it and how we can achieve this. And
they watched it and they both mutually looked at each
other and they said yeah, uh uh, and I was
(15:50):
like what and they both went yet no, No, I'm
like no, like no it it needs to go about
ten times. I's farther. And I was like, okay. And
then they started working this out, the two of them,
the two of them Wow. And I watched and Meryl
(16:14):
suggest throwing herself in a total somersault over this couch
on her neck, falling down. The whole thing was all
mapped out by them. And then I'm going to grab
your duster and I'm going to kick you in the
face with my like and then you're gonna go over
that way. We're gonna have to scream. We're gonna pull
(16:34):
off your braid. The whole thing was them putting it together.
And each time I was like, Meryl Streep is going
to break her neck on our set, Like that's what's
going to happen, And it really could have happened, but
there was no stopping either one of them, and they
were I just loved watching that process and everyone around
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Selena Gomez, those reactions of just like, oh, oh my god,
like it was all real. We have maybe one glimmer
of a shot of a stunt double just for a
later shot we got, but that is all them the
whole time. And they did it several times and I
was like, I we were holding our breath each time,
but because we never knew what we're going to get,
(17:17):
but they kept it tight. But they really.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Built that thing.
Speaker 6 (17:21):
Like, honestly, Meryl Streep could be a stun person. If
she didn't, you know, it wasn't the greatest actress of
all times.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Now back to directors Sherry and Bob.
Speaker 6 (17:32):
Like she was incredible, like flailing around and her Melissa
really were amazing. I mean, Melissa, we know is an
amazing physical comedian and together it was just everybody. After
every take that they did it, there was like a
standing ovation from the cast and.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Crew who was all watching while you guys are the shooting.
Speaker 6 (17:55):
Hats, there were people coming down. I've never had this
on any show that I've ever done, or any movie
I've ever made, where we actually had people who were
like working on the show, who came to set who
were like, we can't.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
We got to see Meryl Street McCarthy.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
I would be there in a second.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
So we had an audience. It was like a play.
We had like a full audience, and after every take
they got like like people were dying laughing, somebody was crying.
There was someone who's crying. It was like, I can't
believe I'm seeing this. It was insane and they had
so much fun with it. I can't even tell you.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
So ultimately that you ended up not using the stunt
people at all. They wanted to do every bit, like.
Speaker 7 (18:43):
Only after it was all in the can you know
to kind of they were like, okay, can you do
what they did?
Speaker 6 (18:51):
People copied them so that we could get other people's coverage,
So we make Melissa and Meryll do the stunt thirty times, right,
So so the STU people did it, as you know,
for us to get coverage, but the actual stuff they
on it themselves, Wow, and wouldn't have it any other way.
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There was no convincing them otherwise.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Amazing.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
I mean, I knew, I feel like I knew Melissa
would be would totally do that, But it's a surprise
that Meryl is on board for that kind.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Of surprising to me.
Speaker 6 (19:24):
It's not no, no, she's all she was like, I'm
dying to do this, I'm doing it, and that was it.
It was, that's so cool, and you know what she
was really kicking Melissa's ass.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Well, when Melissa walks out with the braid with the
braids on, I just like completely lost it. And I
also think that contributed to her losing the fight, yes.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
Because she got the braids. We we just we discussed
it and that comes that. One of the ideas I
had from my move that I loved, uh Valley of
the Dolls is there's a very famous scene where one
of the leads pulls off the other leads wig and
like starts running around with it and like throws it
in the toilet. And so it was like, Okay, we're
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gonna use the these braids as part of the fight,
and that sort of is an homage to Valley the Dolls.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
I love that.
Speaker 6 (20:25):
And Zach and Eva were great. I mean, it was
so it was so fun again stuff that like we
couldn't use all of it, but we did their intervening
and the fighting. You know, their reactions to the fight,
you know, it was hysterical, you know, just seeing them
screaming on the side and.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Yes, yeah, Eva screaming Gale Gail, Yes, And she was
so good at that.
Speaker 6 (20:48):
I'm like, wow, you must really watch, like, you know,
she knew every detail.
Speaker 7 (20:55):
She was perfect.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Hey, great, you got a You're gonna get your handed
it for total.
Speaker 7 (21:03):
Eliadison and Charro.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
We asked Evil Angoria if she had ever pictured herself
screaming kill into the face of Meryl Streep and Melissa McCarthy.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Nope, not in my wildest acting dreams. What I have
imagined a scene like this and then Melissa with this
crazy wig and this like was it long Island accent?
I mean, it was just she was just you know,
she's a genius, but like she always constantly reinvents herself
in every role, and you just go like, you're I
just can't, I can't with you. It was definitely a
(21:37):
surreal pinch me moment because not only it was like
all these amazing comedic actors Eugene Lady and Zach Galavanakis
and Meryl Streep and Melissa McCarthy and uh and myself
now and I mean that house and Steve and Marty
and Selena, and it was like, not only was it like,
oh my god, we're all acting together, but we are
(21:59):
all in the green. We're all on set. Nobody goes
back to their to their I would say, trailers. Nobody
goes back to their dressing room. Nobody does not hang
out on set like it was just the conversations. Offset
too was like, really, you know, pinch mem dreaming moments,
but yeah, we're blocking out the scene to see like
Melissa take out Meryl Street. Was like, oh my god.
(22:23):
We were all like, oh, like, you're gonna Meryl Street.
But they had the stunt coordinator and then they you know,
added a line and they're Eva jumped down there and
and start screaming in their face. I was like, because
I'm screaming in Meryl and Melissa's face and just like
come chuck her out, and they were kill kill kill,
Like please stop, please stop.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
Yeah, after the break with the real Eva Longoria and
the Hollywood Eva Longoria have in common, and do actors
really make good detectives? Welcome back. It's probably not a
(23:06):
shock that Eva Longoria on Only Murders in the Building
is not exactly the same as Eva Longoria in real life,
but they do share certain qualities.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Here's Eva John and I We're talking on the phone,
and he was just so lovely and he's so charming
and he's such a great writer. And he was like, look,
it's gonna be a it's not gonna be you. It's
gonna be like a heightened version of you. And I
was like, yes, push it make me crazy. And he
loved that idea that I was like, even even crazier
than then I normally am. So it was like really
fun to meet create this character quote unquote create this
(23:38):
character with him.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Since we didn't get a chance to talk to Eva
back for episode three, which was directed by Chris Kotch,
we had to ask her about that crazy scene with
Christmas all the Time guy and Maybel. You know when
she starts breaking things and she fires the gun.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Does this piss you off?
Speaker 8 (23:53):
What?
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (23:55):
What about this?
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Who oh? And by the way, r eggnog sucks?
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (24:01):
What you can do about you? And cry?
Speaker 1 (24:03):
You can cry about it.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
I loved the director of this episode because that scene
was really hard to block. It was very physical comedy,
which is what I love. I loved physical comedy, and
so I remember shooting the scene. I was like, I
don't know, was it funny enough was it, Because there's
a lot of technical stuff like reset with breaking of
the glass and so you only have two times with that,
and so it got a little technical and I thought
it felt clunky when we were shooting it. And then
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John actually, no, it was Marty. It was Marty or Steve.
It was Steve Martin and he came up to me
when we were shooting like episode eight, and Steve goes,
I just watched the cut of the episode with the
Christmas guy and oh my god, you're so funny, and
I was like, oh.
Speaker 6 (24:41):
Yeah, Steve Martin said I was funny.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
So that was that made my life. I mean, not
my year, my life.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
That's huge. Oh I love it.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
When we were talking to Ben Smith and Pete Swanson,
they were saying how much fun it was that they
were writing all of these crazy things for you to do,
and they'd be like, Eva Longoria might not do this, though,
she she might just like kick this out or whatever,
and they're like she was game to do anything. Basically, like,
were there was there ever like a joke where you
(25:11):
were like, I don't know, guys, this might be a
little too much, or were you just like, oh.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
No, I feel like because we established this heightened evilngoria,
I didn't have to protect it so much. It's not
like I didn't want to look bad. It was like,
oh my god, go go go. And so it was like,
once we were in that space, anything goes as opposed
to like, oh, you know, let's pull back. If we
kept pulling back, then then it would have you know,
not really landed, or you wouldn't have earned all those moments.
(25:40):
So no, no, I was like, let's go. Should I
pull the gun off the wall? They're like yeah, I
was like, great, let's do it.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
That was your idea?
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Yeah, I feel like it was. I feel like all
the good stuff was my idea. But of course, you know,
directors and writers like to take all the grad ahead.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
So well, that really heightened the scene. So it was great.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Yeah, So what is What do you think are the
big differences between Eva Longoria on only Murders in the
Building and Eva Longoria in real life? Besides maybe she's crazier,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Crazier Oh my god, yeah, well her ego, I mean,
Eva in real life does not have that big of
an ego. I mean, the things that came out of
her mouth to Selena Gomez, I would never say, but
but the evil Andoria on murders in the building to Mabel, Yes,
that's what she would say. You know, she's like, oh,
I hate your name. Oh you're just a pile of
(26:38):
mope sweaters, Like, oh my god. I was like, she's
so mean. So I think I think fictional Evil Longoria
is a little meaner.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
But also you know, gets able to take you know,
get a buttload of money, and yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Well that is evil. That is me. I'm like a
girl's girl and I'm like, girl, this is what you
got to do. So that would be me in real
life too. I would have given her that advice in
real life she obviously doesn't need it, you know what
I mean, She's doing fine.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
The important takeaway for me is that there's some crossover
of real Eva Longoria in that she would be teaching
Mabel how to got to get that money, Yeah, how
to advocate for herself and make the best out of
that financial opportunity.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Yeah, that would be me for sure.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Did you have any conversations with Selena Gomez about the
cable and Eva Longoria and their interactions and kind of
like how that would play off of each other.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
No, No, I think it was better that way because
you know, I'm really like I'd come in like a tornado,
and I kind of worked better. I think acting it
was it was like, yeah, this makes sense that she's
like whoa what wait, what is happening? Who are you?
Where are we? What? Like? So I did, like, I
(27:52):
like that. Probably we didn't. We didn't talk about it.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
Yeah, yeah, Mabel, Mabel, Mabel.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
You know you know Meryl a little trivia. Maryl and
I are cousins.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Are you?
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Miss, I had no idea.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
You guys did not do your research.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
No, we did not.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Geez, Yes, Marril and I are cousins. We're distant cousins.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
So do you guys see each other at family gatherings?
Speaker 8 (28:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Yeah, family means we call each other cousin. Every time
we see each other. We call it, okay, cousin, Hey, cousin.
People are like, what yes, because we both did that
DNA show with Doctor Gates and yes, that was so good.
They do six people per episode, and when you're on
the episode, to the six people the episode, they cross
reference to your DNA to see if you share an ancestor.
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In the last hundred years, and so at the end
of the show, they go, do you want to know
if you're related to somebody? I go yes, and they
go Meryl Streep and I was like, what so and
then they told her. And then I saw at an
awards show one time and my friend's like, go up
to her, go tell her your cousins. I go, I
am not going up to Meryl Streep and telling her
we're cousins. I'm standing there and I hear cousin. And
(29:03):
she came up to me and she's the one that
was like, we're related. I was like, I know.
Speaker 6 (29:09):
I didn't want to bother you.
Speaker 10 (29:12):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
That's amazing. That is such a good story. I love
I love knowing that a true family of greatness.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Yeah, Meryl has a little Latina in her or I
have a little English and me I don't know.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Well, so I mean Meryl's uh. Loretta does come to
actors defense and says they are investigators of the human condition.
Do you do you think you would trust actors to
solve a murder?
Speaker 2 (29:43):
I would. I'm of the same mentality which I think,
you know, actors would make great CIA agents or great spies.
We would make great uh, you know, uh, psychologists like,
really tell me how you're feeling. I mean, if we
didn't have, you know, big egos and so I do
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think like actors do are you know, are these really deep, thoughtful,
you know, humanity seeking people? And through that, I think
you could find a murderer for sure.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
Well, you guys definitely uncovered some big stuff in episode seven,
bringing it all the way back to season one. I
know that's going to be very exciting for people.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
I was so excited. I was like, will I be
the murder? Will I die? Will I be the murdered?
Am I the murderer?
Speaker 9 (30:37):
And uh?
Speaker 2 (30:38):
And everything was so tight lipped, and I think it
all unfolds perfectly. I also do like that this season's
target was not like a random, random person in the
apartment building.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
I know, I agree. Yeah, did it when in the
process did you find out? Because I hear you know
I found out we found out what in season two?
Who the murderer? Didn't find out until the very end
that she was the murderer?
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Oh yeah, No, I never knew. I still don't know.
Speaker 11 (31:07):
So it was a bit, it was a lot of
It was a lot of red herrings, and that's what
makes this show so great was you know, wait, okay,
it's totally that guy.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
No, Oh my god, it was her.
Speaker 8 (31:22):
I knew it.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
I knew it was her, you know. So I love
that It's like it takes turns and twists every episode.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Now, who else uncovers some very important information this episode?
He's certain someone who is not at the house on
Long Island but is present nonetheless, here's actor Michael Cyril Creighton.
Speaker 10 (31:40):
So I initially was pretty bummed that I wasn't part
of the you know, the main storyline at seven in
that house on Long.
Speaker 7 (31:46):
Island, which is my homeland.
Speaker 10 (31:48):
I was initially pretty bummed, but then I loved Howard's
storyline in that episode, and I loved that actor who
played the man in the bodega.
Speaker 7 (31:56):
We had so much fun that day.
Speaker 10 (31:58):
Oh there's another animal another so this season it was
a dog, cat and okig. But that was that was
a pretty special day too, just because I don't usually
get to act with new actors that don't I haven't
met before on this show. So that was a really
fun day. And I love how that episode turned out.
Speaker 7 (32:18):
Overall. I think it's so great.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Yeah, and Howard is responsible for everybody being in that
house too, you.
Speaker 10 (32:24):
Know, I know, because that's what's great about this too,
is like Howard, even when he's not on the screen,
he's so involved this season. He's so part of everything,
and that's like Howard's.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Dream, but he's doing it.
Speaker 7 (32:36):
He's doing it.
Speaker 8 (32:38):
Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
Yeah, just like in the show, Howard is sprinkled throughout
the podcast too.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
By the end of the episode, the Hollywood Trio has
a new fund confidence in their ability to solve crimes.
Here again is Eva Longoria.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
It's so fun because we do go back. We we
we eventually leave the house and we go back into
the into the real world to go figure out, you know,
the murder. And the fun thing about like you know,
eight nine and ten is like the actors are now
trying to take over. We think we know best. Oh,
I love it, and guys just step aside. Okay, let
(33:13):
the real people do this. And they're like, you're not real,
Like you're not any better than us. We're like, but
we are. And so that's a lot of fun that
we have in eight and nine.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
All Right, let's close out today's episode by asking John
Hoffman about this huge breakthrough that the actors have admitting
to plot holes, perhaps intentional plotals, all the way back
to season one.
Speaker 8 (33:36):
It all goes back to season one, which by the way,
has more holes than Jack Elliphan.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
That tell us about that decision to bring it back
to season one.
Speaker 8 (33:48):
It's a great question, Maggie, and I think a lot
of people who are fans of the show will be
very interested in this answer. So I'm watching my words
a little more carefully, and it's it's one that we've
talked about a long time, and there are some answers,
maybe not all. So that's all I'm going to say right.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Now, Wait and see. Is that the answer?
Speaker 6 (34:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (34:12):
But I loved I loved the turn. The most important
thing was like having some great revealed turn for these
actors at the end of this episode, and that felt right.
And then more importantly, the fact that it tied into
something that had a longer game thought behind it feels
really good as well. To me.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Do you think that viewers should go back and watch
season one again?
Speaker 8 (34:36):
Well? Sure, I mean I still want to.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Will that help them solve the mystery?
Speaker 8 (34:43):
Don't you want to know who poison Witty?
Speaker 1 (34:45):
I do.
Speaker 8 (34:46):
We've said it right from the beginning. Mabel is saying
it right at the end of season one, there's some
loose ends. Yeah, plot holes are brought up throughout this
whole season. You know. I think with any mystery, with
any endeavor of getting something right, you're exposing other things
that might not add up, and you kind of have
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to look away from it or just leave it by
the wayside as you're following something more intriguing. So I
think that being a part of an ongoing series based
on murder mysteries and one building and what possibly could
have been a bigger story that may not end here yet,
we'll see, Oh my.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Goodness, okay, okay, or me or may we'll see.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
That's it for today, Thanks so much for listening. I
had a really hard time with the Easter Egg this week.
Maybe it's the reflection of the house in Long Island
on the windows. I don't know, what do you?
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Did?
Speaker 4 (35:56):
You see it, Ryan, only when you watched it like
four times.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
I watched it four times, all right, So listeners, please
let me know what the East dragg was if it
wasn't that, because that felt too subtle.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
We'll be back in a few days with Molly Shannon.
Molly Shannon plus more with John Hoffman and Bob and
Sherry because we have not even talked about the dolls.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
We haven't talked about the dolls, which is what I
thought I would see in the opening credits, but I
didn't see it. Anyways. Please send us your thoughts and
theories to Only Murders at strawhutmedia dot com.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
Take a minute to subscribe, rate the show, follow us,
and leave us a review if you enjoy the show.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Only Murders in the Building Podcast is a production of
straw Hut Media, hosted and produced by Ryan Tilton and
Maggie Bowles. Our associate producer is Stephen Markley. Original music
by Kyle Merrett and Only Murders in the Building theme
music by Siddartha Cosla. Our assistant editor is Daniel Ferreira.
Our production assistant is Caroline Mendoza.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
Thank you so much to Robert Paulcini, Sherry Springer, Berman,
Eva Longoria, and Michael Cyrol Crichton. We're talking with us
this week.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
And big, big, big things. As always to John Hoffman
and the entire Hulu team.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
See you soon.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Bye.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
I'm so sorry. There's like a delay. There's like a
five second delay.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
So it's okay, we're gonna make it work. So just
well we'll okay, we cut out the delay.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Okay, yeah, can you still hear me? Sorry? Oh now
I'm losing you. Okay, okay, I'm going to keep you here.
Oh no, no, right, okay, okay, okay. I think it's back.
(37:59):
I think his back, so I'm going to keep going
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