Breaking Down Spike Lee’s Latest Film, X-Men’s Racial Allegories, & Trump’s Attack on Black Communities

Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
Brothers and sisters.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Give me a moment with your friend.
I've never been up to enoughfor my thoughts before.
Welcome to the Only One MicPodcast.
I'm Rob.
Brooklyn Dre.
J-rob is in the building.
Roger.
Rob Brooklyn Dre J-Rob is inthe building.
Back in the studio together,guys.
How y'all feeling Out?

Speaker 3 (00:32):
out out Great.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Good to be back together, brothers.
Hey, listen, we got a fewthings we want to discuss, but
first you know what I mean wehaven't been able to kind of sit
down and talk to you, theaudience, together, Like we all
have our conversations offline,man, but we haven't been able to
speak to y'all.
And I want to start this offlike this y'all I don't know how

(00:59):
many of y'all seen this orwatched it at all, but the
Denzel movie man, the highest tothis or watched it at all, but
the Denzel movie man Highest toLowest Jammy came out on Apple
TV.
I told you man yeah, you did, Itold you Don't waste your time,

(01:20):
man.
I told you.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Let me ask you a question being New Yorkers, man.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Very New York-centric movie.
Hold on, I'm going to stop youright there.
I will give Spike this.
Spike made a very NewYork-centric movie.
However, it's a Spike.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
They all New York-centric man.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
They all New York-centric, but it's just.
I know y'all didn't get achance to watch it.
I know you said Dre, you notwatching.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
I told you not to do it you told me not to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
You sure did, man.
I said, all right, well, look,it was all.
I didn't pay to see it when itwas in the movie theater.
I at home, and I did, and I'mstill processing it.
Folks, I'm like somewhere downthe line there was a missing
piece in that movie.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
It's always.
Yeah, I'm like it was, it'salways.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
And then it was like it turned into a spike flick.
It got a little bit too artsy.
You know what I mean, but goahead.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
What was you saying, Dre?
I don't like Spike and I don'tlike Tarantino man, I don't like
none of these films.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Oh, man you violated right there.
Tarantino was amazing.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
I don't like.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
A$AP Rocky.
I don't like A$AP Rocky.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
I gotta say this I'm gonna go back to your point, jay
Tarantino flicks man.
Tarantino got a sick vision man.
Tarantino flicks man.
Tarantino got a sick vision man.
I gotta be honest with you.
I've seen some movies wherethis dude's mind is in left
field somewhere, man.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
I don't like any movie where people are making
extra sounds like cartoons andall kind of goofy garbage.
I just like my movies to be amovie man I don't want to.
Are y'all brothers trying totell me y'all never watched Kill
Bill?

Speaker 2 (03:06):
No, no, no, no, no.
I said sorry.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
I do like.
I did, like you know, to behonest with you, kill Bill, it
really wasn't about the wholemovie, it was about the fight
scenes, if you like.
Just like a good fight scene.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
That's what it is, it's like more like an homage
the way that he tells the story.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah, it's an homage to the old Karate Flicks, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Yeah, I mean I just finished watching the Karate
Flick.
You know what I mean.
Before we got on here, I waswatching 36 Chambers or
something like that man.
The crazy thing about it is Idon't think this is crazy.
I never saw 36 Chambers.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
No Wow.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
Never saw it, man.
I mean, don't try to play me,no, no no.
Golden Arms Five Deli Venoms.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yeah, hold up, hold up.
Y'all know about Super Ninja.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
Never seen Super Ninja, oh you ain't seen that.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
That was the one with the elements.
It was the elements, they wasin the trees, they they was
jumping out the water and allthat.
Oh, you ain't never seen thatone.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
I seen the Flying Guillotine joint like that man.
That was my joint, the FlyingGuillotine.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
You talking about the Flying Dally huh?

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Is this more like an updated joint?

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Nah, Super Ninja was back in the day.
I got to pull it out.
That was our favorite joint.
That's the one we always bought.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Man, that joint is hot, you know I'll go with the.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
I told you not to do it.
I did it and I said listen, Ihaven't seen a good Spike Lee
movie since Malcolm X and evenin Malcolm X, even in Malcolm X
and they're going to be crazybecause we went to.
That's how I'm going to showyou how old Malcolm X is.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
We went there with 38 .
Yeah, I was blown by the factthat they had an interlude in
the movie man.
I was like that was crazy, thefirst time I've experienced that
in a movie.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
Yeah, man, we went there, the whole block with us,
to see Malcolm X man and even wewas talking about this the
other day, man before you wentto see it, before you went to
see it, I told him.
I said, listen, man, in everySpike Lee movie, even some of
the good ones, there's alwayssomething missing out of it that

(05:15):
you would be like this would bea great film if or you don't
know what is missing, but it'salways missing something.
What's the movie we talkedabout the other day, inside man?
I was like yo, but it's alwaysmissing something.
What's the movie we talkedabout the other day, Inside man?
I was like yo, this is a good.
There's a good something around.
This is good.
The whole.
You know Banks taking advantageof, you know the Holocaust.
It was great.
And then I was like somewherein there, the ball was dropped.

Speaker 1 (05:38):

Speaker 2 (05:41):
I didn't even know.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
Spike did that one.
Yeah, it's hot man, the jointhe did with Ed Norton.
Yeah, the 25th Hour 25th Hour,man, but it was.
I liked the movie, but it wassomething in the movie that I'm
like, man, this could you knowthat little thing that you're
like?
Oh wow, this is it.
You walk out feeling like you.
You got your money's worth.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
I'm a keeper of the bandwagon.
I told you the other day I wasdone with Spike after Red Hook
Summer.
I was done.
I knew I wasn't doing that,yeah, I was done with Spike
after.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
Red Hook Summer.
I never even heard of it.
Yeah, I knew I wasn't doingthat Do yourself a favor, folks.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
If you out there and you didn't watch this movie,
don't, don't.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
Just do yourself a favor.
Clockers.
The only well, it's notClockers, it's Crooklyn.
You probably don't likeCrooklyn.
The only reason you likeCrooklyn is if he was born and
raised in Brooklyn, or probablyPhilly or you know, because you
got that kind of connection toit.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
I actually do like Crooklyn.
Yeah, I like Crooklyn.
Crooklyn can take you back tothe summers.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, that's the only reason welike it.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
Clockers I didn't like when I was, when I was
young, I didn't like clockers,but as I got older I kind of
understood.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
My journal was fresh, but let's stop it right here.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Top 5 Spike movies.
What do you think is the bestSpike movies?

Speaker 3 (06:56):
I don't think you got 5.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
If you got 5.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
I think you got 5.
I like Mo' Better Blues.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
I like Jungle Feud Malcolm's number 1 on all the
lists.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
Do the right thing.
I like more better blues, morebetter All right, I like Jungle
Field Malcolm.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
Malcolm's number one on all the lists.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Do the right thing Do the right thing.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
I'm going to tell you what's funny about that.
I liked it as a kid.
As I look back now, I can'teven watch it.
Man, Can you watch?
Do the Right Thing now.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Did it hold up anything?
I ain't tried, but I'm sure Icould check it out just for
Rosie Perez yeah and not tomention it was quotable.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
You got a lot of quotes so wegot what Malcolm X do the right
thing.
What am I missing again?

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Jungle Fever.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
Moe Better so you got four, you got four.
She's got to have school daysfor me.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
So you got four, you got four.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
She's got to have those tracks, oh School Days
School.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Days, school Days is all right.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
I can't watch it in college man, I can't watch it
now, but I liked it when it wasout.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
I can watch School Days now.
That's one of those movies thatI damn near know every line.
School Days, you know?
Yeah, I can watch School Daysnow.
That's one of those movies thatI damn didn't know every line.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
School Days that's maybe why I can't watch it.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
I loved it when it first came out.
Like you said, man, I thinkSchool Days and what's the name
of it?
Bill Cosby and all that, hislittle thing all of the movies
was like a collective man, allof them pieces of art.
Man kind of got people wantingto go to college and stuff like

(08:31):
that what I took out of schooldays was the whole Greek thing.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Man, I'm like shaving people's heads and making them
eat dog food and all that stuffyou know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
It is college life, though man.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
I knew what I didn't want to do, you know.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
Girl 6 was trash.
Get on the Bus was trash uh.
I never even seen Summer of 5am.
I don't know what that.
Oh, that's the Summer of Samjoint, ain't it?

Speaker 2 (08:58):
yeah, and I don't even remember that I.
Yeah, I remember him doing one,but I didn't watch it.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
I ain't never watched Summer of Sam either.
No.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
I think it's the summer.
Yeah, well, he had a.
I guess it's.
He had Summer.
Yeah, summer of Sam.
That's the movie I said I'mlooking at it.
That's the summer of 5 am.
Summer of Sam.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yeah, Summer of.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
Sam, I seen the movie it was good, ah, man, it wasn't
that man.
I mean some of these stuff Iain't even seen she hates me.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Yeah, no, I think I saw that it was stupid I hate.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
I thought um when one another movie that I thought it
was had some good conceptbehind it but just didn't match
up.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Miracle saint, santa, miracle at saint, yeah, yeah,
yeah, I forgot all about that.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
I forgot all about that I forgot all about that.
I don't even know that one.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
I know she's got to have it, I like that I was
watching Paul Mooney one timeman when he was talking about
the Miracle Santa Anna and hewas saying how they flew over
somebody's house in Italy andsomehow the black person.
It was a romance story where oh, no, that was right.
Tells me oh, it was exactlywhat he's talking about.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
He all the way up in the plane and somehow the
Italian lady and him lock eyesfrom the plane.
That's it.
I mean, I wasn't a Spike flick,was it?
Red Tails?
No, no, no that was somebodyelse.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
Yeah, he influenced whoever did it.
You know what?

Speaker 2 (10:34):
I mean, I can tell that was horrible man.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
I didn't like Black Klansman.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
Oh, come on, Come on man, Come on you too.
I'm talking about BlackKlansman.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Let me tell you something, man.
I read the book on that man thestory that's.
That is a wild story changethat.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
I didn't my fault.
I didn't see black claim.
You know what I was thinkingabout the book and the movie.
Two different things, though Iwas thinking about what's the
the movie that they just cameout with?
Was it Fred Hampton they did iton, or something like that?

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Yeah, yeah, it was Fred Hampton, but that's not the
name of the movie.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Spike didn't do that.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
No, but I was saying for some reason I was thinking
it was the same film man.
But no, that's not it man.
Black Klansman was about thecop that you know, infiltrated
the IJ.
And the Five Bloods.
I watched that too, man, but Iwas like it was really weird.
I thought it was decent.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Oh, and, thank you, that's the word I'm looking for.
Spike gets weird.
Like some of the scenes get alittle weird.
Man, it's like a lot of stuffwas unnecessary In this
particular movie.
They got a I mean, y'allprobably ain't gonna watch it

(11:54):
anyway, but they got a a partwhere, um, he goes to see asap
rocky in jail after everythingtook place or whatever, and it's
like a whole almost a videobefore they even sit down and
have the conversation.
I don't.
I like it was like somethingthat was totally unnecessary.
I mean, and he got a chickshaking it behind the whole
group and I'm like all this isleading up to a conversation.
It's like a part of it was likea fantasy part, and then it's
the actual conversation.
I'm like that was totallyunnecessary.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
See, people forget man what, denzel from what Mount
Vernon and Spike from Brooklyn.
They lined y'all up, man.
They lined y'all up, man.
They lined everybody up, man.
It was a hustle.
It was a quick lick.
They probably found somebodythat you know was going to back
them with a movie.
They probably pocketed half andput out some trash, or

(12:36):
something like that, I think.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
A$AP Rocky, kind of you know, overplayed towards the
end.
Ice Spice they like saying likeshe's in the movie.
She was in the movie for liketwo seconds.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
She wasn't even in the joint.
I know it was going to be badwhen RA Day was involved.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
She was in there literally for like a minute and
that was it.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
I'm definitely not watching.
As soon as you said Ice Spice,the little bit of, I'm like I'm
going to check it out.
Nah, I'm cool.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
Definitely was only in man.
So yeah, I gotta start takingmore advice.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
Man, I don't play around with my movies, man.
If I decide that I'm gonna putsome time into it, man, it gotta
be a good thing.
I don't go to the movies unlessit's Marvel.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
Now, man, if it ain't Marvel, I don't go to the
movies and I'm glad because thisis a good transition man,
because we had a very goodconversation the other day about
the complexities of the X-Men.
This brother gave a verydetailed, good conversation the
other day about the complexitiesof the X-Men.
This brother gave a verydetailed breakdown after
re-watching some of these X-Menmovies in correlation to what's
going on today in terms ofracism and everything.

(13:35):
Would you care to break thisdown, sir, for?

Speaker 1 (13:38):
our general audience.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
If I didn't waste my time with this movie this
morning, I definitely would havewent back and watched First
Class again, man.
Hilarious Watch First Class manHold on, Jay, you got to listen
to this.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
You're going to jump in this.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Go ahead.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
I'm already on it.
I'm already there.
I'm just glad you finallyhopped on board the train.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
So Dre for the general audience.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
No, I'm saying, that wasn't that deep man.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
No, it was deep to me , but go ahead.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
But if you watch I mean all the X-Men movies, if
you go back and watch them all Iwas watching first class man.
All this is about black people,man.
It's all about black people.
It's about how the mutants arepowerful and the government
Caucasian people are scaredbecause they're scared that

(14:28):
they're going to overpower them.
Not that I believe that blackpeople are not superhuman, but
I'm saying that that's how.
Wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
Historically.
That's the reason why they usethat lady's jeans because black
people are superhuman, so goahead.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
Yeah.
I mean when you break it whenyou break down the whole movie,
man and look at it, you'll belike man, like wow, beast was
like a politician.
And you know you got ProfessorX and Magneto.
That's like Malcolm and Martinman.
You know they both got the samemindset.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
But Magneto One is revolutionary and one is peace.
Magneto One wants to integrate,the other one wants to separate
.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's mad deep man when you gothrough the whole process and
even when you even see, like,the whole situation with Magneto
and what's the chick name?
Storm, Not Storm.
The other one.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
Jean.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
The villain, bro man.
No, the blue, the chick thatturned blue.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
Oh, mystique, yeah, Mystique, the shapeshifter yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
Remember, remember.
What's the whole thing aboutMystique?
She don't like herself, mm-hmm,because of her blue skin and
everything like that.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
She hates that dark, deep blue skin Right right right
right, right right right.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
So the whole point, remember, when she was laying in
his bed and she had madeherself into a beautiful white
woman or whatever like that.
And he was like I don't evenwant you like that, I want you
like how you are.
So I think she changed want youlike that, I want you like how
you are.
So she changed.
I think she changed it toanother chick and he was like
nah, I want you like how you are.
And she turned back into herbeing a blue and he was like yo,

(16:13):
you're beautiful, just the wayyou are, something like that.
And he just left in the bedroom.
I was like hard, even if you'regoing to the joint where, as, um
, what's the chick?
Uh, rogue, she couldn't touchher boyfriend, you know, I mean
because he was.
He was gonna kill her.
So she wanted to change herself.
She wanted to go get the um,the vaccine, you know I mean to

(16:35):
to lose her power so she couldbe with him or whatever case may
be.
But the other white broad, shewas able to he, she saw them
having a good time together.
Whatever the case may be, Ithink it had, you know, like had
little undertones of blackwomen and all kind of other
stuff, like that man I was likeyo man, when you watch that
joint over again, you're gonnabe like yo this joint is crazy
man.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
And I take it a little deeper with Mystique.
Mystique she has the ability to, so basically she can.
It's her mindset.
You know what I'm saying shecan be anything she want.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but shethinks that her natural self is
not good enough right, right,right.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
I'm telling you, man, I was sitting there watching
and the joint with Beast is apolitician, right, and he's
thinking he's a part of thegovernment and all this other
stuff like that.
And when he came up with this,he's thinking he's a part of the
government and all this otherstuff like that.
And when they came up with thisso-called vaccine to cure the

(17:33):
mutants or whatever like that,he walks up in the joint.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
He was like yo I wasn't even in this meeting to
even discuss it.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
And there's a portion wherewhen they put the vaccine
together, he kind of left thegovernment.
He was like yo listen, I needto go be with my people.
They all trying to piece it up.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
I'm telling you, man it kind of reminds me.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
You know what I'm saying.
But you know, a lot of thesemovies is like that they got
undertones of stuff pertainingto us.
What's the name?
Planet of the Apes.
So when you watch, when youwatch this movie again, man, you
be thinking I would love to.
I don't know if they ever spokeon it, but somebody asked the

(18:12):
people that created it likewhere did y'all get this from?

Speaker 2 (18:16):
Planet of the Apes or the X-Men both.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
They just stole, they stole, they stole the whole
joint in there.
If you watch the whole X-MenFirst Class.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
I mean all of them.
What's the?

Speaker 3 (18:29):
60s.
Yeah, you watch the.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
X-Men First Class.
I know the story of the Jedi isa stolen story.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
But that's about the Bible.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yeah, all right, you got to go into that one man.
You said you're my Star Wars.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Yeah, you want me to, I'm not a.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
I'm not a star wars fan man, so so I.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
I already stole this.
I already stole the story froma black, a black chick or
something like that.
I could be wrong not star wars.
That was the matrix andterminated but I think it was a
black.
I think it was a sister or abrother that had something to do
with allegedly.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
I don't know if she wrote it or not, but they said
the Matrix and the Terminatorwas from a black woman.
I've seen a few interviews withher.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
Well, you know, documentary I was watching, man
was saying it was about um.
They were saying it was aboutthe Bible.
Like you know, luke is JesusChrist.
You know, I'm just saying that,based off of what they're
saying, it's the Darth Vader's,the devil, the force is supposed
to be the holy spirit, holyspirit, all kinds of stuff yeah,
man, yeah, when you think aboutit it's good and evil forces.

(19:33):
You know, I mean it's the darkside, it's the light side.
You know, I mean all the otherstuff like that.
Man, that was my one of thethings that, um, I heard about
when I heard it.
Man, not that I, you know,obviously I don't agree with
none of it, but I'm just sayingthat's how you know.
Somebody came up with the basicunderlying undertones of the
story.
But, jay, you said you heardanother portion of it.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
Yeah, I'm trying to find it so I can give it to you
exactly and not bemisrepresenting.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yeah, but why you do that?
I was telling him too, man, ifyou watch the X-Men 97 joint,
the cartoon, which is like morefor adults, that was crazy too,
because the mutants did havetheir own island and the
government bombed it, yeah yeah,killed everybody on it.
It's Black Wall Street.
Yeah, it was wild out.
We're moved.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
It's another move program.
He said the Mood Program.
Hey, all my Philly brothers gota certain love for the Mood
Program.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
I saw the documentary .

Speaker 3 (20:32):
I never was there, but I saw the documentary of the
Mood Program I said, yeah thembrothers was crazy.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
And I'm going to tell you what, jay, I know you're
looking for the joint man, butalso kind of leads me into this
next thing about these, thesetakeovers, man, you know what I
mean.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Yes, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Well that stuff is happening in DC and Baltimore
said no, we're not, we're notgoing for that, With Trump
sending in those troops and ICEagents and all that jazz like
that to kind of police the cityand my lady actually works in DC
now, ok, ok and um.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
My lady actually works in dc now, okay, okay and
uh.
When she get off the train shesay the national guard being
there with the desert camo on,there's a camera, weapons and
they be all in um, whatever thattrain station name is oh yeah,
it was a.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Uh, it's a union union station or something like
that something like that.
Yeah, you know it's crazy if itwas anybody and I'm not saying
I'm not for no policingeverybody like that at all
anyway, but I just don't trusttrump well, I say all that to
say this because, if y'all don'tremember, some time ago we had

(21:38):
this conversation way back onone of the shows and I I told
y'all this.
I was like one thing he gonnado.
In fact, I asked y'all I said,do you think he would ever deem
gangs as terrorist organizations?

Speaker 1 (21:54):
Y'all said no.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
And I was like yo, I don't know, you know what I mean
, because all it takes is theright little thing, which he,
you know, is looking at it likethat and which he, you know, is
looking at it like that.
And not to mention, would theyever send the military to police
, to people?
Because at the time I think wewere talking about Philly Jay
and we were saying like if theykeep acting up, they're going to
send a National Guard and themout there.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
You know what I mean, but I mean not to say that they
sent them to Philly.
They didn't do that, but I'mjust saying yeah, Philly will be
like what's going to happen inChicago?
They come over there in Chicago.
Chicago's going to go crazy,it's going to go left, yeah,
Well.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
I'm going to tell you something interesting.
It was a Hispanic politician.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
Let me say this before you get there man We've
been in from New York Brooklynis Brooklyn.
You know the boroughs is alldifferent man Philly and Detroit
and Chicago.
Detroit and Philly is the mostmilitant spot.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
Yeah, and that kind of leads me to my next thing,
man, because they were saying,like, in regards to Chicago,
there's a Hispanic politicianhis name escaped me at this time
I'm listening on Democracy Nowand he was talking about sending
those troops over there tochicago.
Um, the I think the mexicanpride parade was coming up or is
coming up, and he was sayingthat he think that's where

(23:15):
that's going to be a problem,because trump at the time is
saying we're going to send them,but he's not telling the
general public when he's goingto deploy them.
But I think they're like NorthCarolina getting ready or
Or Texas, the Texas, one TexasNational Guard, and so they're
basically running tests.
Yeah, and he said that.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
See where they can get it done at.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
He said that and he was like that he's going to send
them over, but he's not goingto tell you when the politician
is saying or congressperson issaying like, well, they're going
to send them more than likelyduring that.
You know, during that Mexicanpride parade.
If you send ICE out thereduring that time, he said that's
going to be a problem.
You know what I mean, becausesome people are going to fight
back.
He said what it is.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
it will give him carte blanche to let the
National Guard do whatever theygot to do to police the people,
to police, the people, becauseit's almost like he's picking at
us in order to create us, youknow, to get us in a, to get us
in a war, you know, like somesort of physical confrontation
or something like that.

(24:15):
It seemed like they're justpicking at a scab that you know.
It seemed like a lot of peopleare somewhat being wise and kind
of like not trying to overlookit.
But it's like that scab, you'regoing to keep picking that
until people just be like allright, it's on.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's what happened.
That's what happened, butthat's the big concern.
So it was like now I thinkBaltimore is the next one up and
the mayor was like nah we not?
Doing that Listen listen, wenot doing that, you know what I
mean.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
Listen, listen, that's another place.
Let me tell you something about.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
Baltimore.
Right, I remember me and youwas talking about this a long
time ago and remember people,cops, were getting killed all
over the place or whatever likethat.
And one time we had aconversation I said, man,
because this is me after goingto visit our family in Baltimore
.
Yeah, I said yo, a cop everkill somebody, or something like
that happen in Baltimore.
They're going to lose it.

(25:07):
That is a wild.
You know what the tough partabout Baltimore is?
They just wild, it ain't.
No.
You know, like Philly ismilitant.
You know even Brooklyn and NewYork has like some sort of
undertones or some sort of, youknow, militancy or whatever.
Baltimore is just afree-for-all.
It's a mental free-for-all.

(25:28):
Like you can get shot downthere for nothing.
You know what I mean Anywherepretty much, but Baltimore is
crazy.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
Supposedly, historically, baltimore and that
area was one of those placeswhere they were using they were
having slaves like rape eachother, so that type of psychosis
is what's in the people downthere and that's the reason why
they're so apt to be addicted tosubstances and things.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
Yeah, baltimore, it's kind of funny you said that man
because I remember you knowgoing down there years ago man,
it's about 10, 15 years ago man,and I was so surprised about
how heavy they was on heroin.
Still, we from the East Coastman, we've been in every hood
possible West Coast and EastCoast and you didn't see heroin

(26:16):
like that man Back about 10, 15years ago.
It was crack and whatever else.
But Baltimore has always thecity, always been selling smack,
even the show the Wire.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
What's the other show ?

Speaker 2 (26:31):
they did about drugs.
I'm going to cut you off, Jay.
Was it the Corner or something?

Speaker 1 (26:34):
like that.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
The Corner, the Corner, yeah, the Corner is like
crack city.
Yeah, it's crazy, and even thecrazy thing about bringing up
Baltimore, man, and going backto Trump's situation.
Man, I remember watching adocumentary with what was the
dude that they made the whiteafter Melvin something or
whatever.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
Melvin tells a story about how in the 60s that I
guess what president that theyput in at the time he was so
heavy on crime that he hadbrought down crime and it got to
a point where people couldn'thustle no more.
So violent crime went up youknow what I mean.

(27:16):
And he was saying that it gotso bad that he said obviously he
never seen the person but hewas invited to a meeting with
mob bosses at the time.
He said he was the only blackperson there and he says that at
that meeting they told him thatthe president of the United
States told him to put themdrugs back out on the street.
He said put it back out on thestreet because they would prefer

(27:40):
people hustling than violentcrime.
Because when dudes can't getmoney in the street it's back to
busting people in the head orsnatching purses and everything
like that.
And that's what you know.
So I'm thinking the same thingwill happen again right now with
this whole National Guard thing, man, because again that's

(28:00):
what's going to happen.
It's kind of like something thatwe don't like to say and I
don't agree with nobody sellingdrugs or anything like that but
it's kind of like a somethingthat we don't pay attention to,
which is is the real deal isthat all of this stuff is like a
food chain.
You know I mean you gotta thedrugs have to be sold because

(28:21):
they got to keep the legalsystem up.
You know I mean, people won'thave to get money because they
got to keep the legal system up.
People will have to get moneysomewhere in the street because
if they don't get money in thestreet, man, then it's back to
busting you upside your head orsomething like that man, so it
all feeds each other.
It's like an evil food chainthat just goes on in the black
community, man.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
Yeah, but I also believe that that's the way that
they actually are able tocontrol the people.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
Yeah, that's the fact .

Speaker 1 (28:58):
You keep the drugs in there, they won't be able to
aspire, are going to fall victimto needing whatever is in that
community whether it be thedrugs, whether it be the guns
something in order to protectthemselves, or they're going to
get arrested.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
Well, look at it now.
All of these kids on weed andstuff like that man, Most of
these kids are like they'relethargic.
They might even be working orsomething like that, but it's
like they're on a hamster wheel.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
I'm going to be honest, bro.
That's not weed.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
Well, no, no, I agree with you.
What they're smoking isdefinitely more than what was
given out back in the day.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
Being in the bars and the clubs and stuff doing the
security.
I see chicks doing ketamine.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
Oh, on the pills and all that.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Yeah, I see chicks doing ketamine.
Oh, on the pills and all that.
Yeah, they actually havelollipops called K-Pops and I'm
like what the hell is that theytry it?
I'm like, no, what is it?
And it's a drug.
It's called ketamine.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Oh man.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
It makes you feel drunk without drinking.
That's insane.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
Yeah they want a lot of different pills and weird
stuff too, but I think what I'msaying is like I'm just looking
at it from the perspective ofweed is so accepting.
Now, like you know you, youhave work and you come into work
high.
You can smell weed on thisperson while you're at work.
Like it was like a time with usyou know you were, you know I

(30:21):
never was a weed person oranything like that but it was a
time for us when we was comingup, even when we were back and
working at the bank somebodywalking to the job and they're
smelling like marijuana.
You be like yo man.
Go take that, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Go spray some cologne on orsomething.
You smell wild right now.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Now they just almost like they trying to show you how
good the pack is or something Iwas in my car a couple weeks
ago and I smelled the white guyand I'm like damn this nigga
just sitting in the waiting roomlike this.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Why me say nothing?
You ever go to a Dollar General.
These days, the whole thingsmells like meat.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
If you anywhere in you know like that Dollar
General Walmart.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
Oh, Walmart's the worst in all situations.
It's a whole situation.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
McDonald's, burger King, whatever, once these kids
come out, you'd be like man,like you just stoned.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
But you know what, though, man, this makes an
interesting point, and why Ishow, while I got y'all, man,
because I putting these peopleout in the street and whatever,
and they're doing what they'redoing, even though they claim
like crime.
And you know like,statistically, crime in DC is
down, which I think, like I said, that was the beta test.
So crime in DC is down, chicagois Chicago.

(31:37):
They're still letting it go outthere.
You know Philly, new York,things of that nature.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
Let me just say this before you say that man.
I haven't been following the DCthing, but I remember watching
the news where they were sayingcrime in DC was down already.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
They were saying they didn't know why he implemented
this Because there was a testand it's easy to go ahead and,
you know, knock out a few tomatocans before you get to the main
event, not to mention legally,he's able to do that in DC
because it's a federaljurisdiction, yeah, federal
jurisdiction.
So what happens is that when yousee the footage of a lot of
young people I ain't going tosay black folks, whatever, but a

(32:13):
lot of young people out thereand they playing tag, with them
guns, as you say, jay, you knowwhat I mean and they just
recklessly just letting it go inthe street, staying in that
nation and all these differentrespective cities.
Do you think this is kind oflike a self-inflicted thing, man
, like we kind of brought thison ourself?

Speaker 1 (32:32):
It can never be self-inflicted.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
All right, do tell brother how so.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
Because, in essence, nobody wants to do crime.
Crime is a byproduct of nothaving.
If the people in our communityhad the opportunities and the
resources, there's no reason forit.
Crime comes because peopledon't have, and they don't have

(32:56):
options.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
I believe what you're saying is 90% correct.
I mean, it's 10% of people thatjust be like they're just doing
stuff, just to do it.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
But that's also a byproduct of the laws and the
way they build our communities.
Like you, really don't have achoice.
I remember growing up, man, andbeing in like middle and high
school and have to catch publictransportation to school, and it
was like you never know howthat day was going to go.

(33:26):
Whether it be on the bus, trainor even walking down the street
, you may encounter a group ofindividuals that want what you
got, and that's so real.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
That's all the time.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Whether it's sneakers, whetherit's a chain, you know what I'm
saying.
I remember having a chain andmy coach was like you know, tuck
your chain.
I'm not tucking my chain.
And it's so dumb because if Iwas having that conversation
with my child, I would tell himto tuck your chain.
But me, my thing is, I'm goingto have, I'm on the air, what's

(34:02):
up.
But now it was so stupid, thementality of that was so stupid.
But that's the young boys typestuff.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
Yeah, and I mean like to speak on that man.
It's like when you watch thisfootage and when you see this
different stuff, you always bethinking to yourself like what
beef is that deep for me to jumpon somebody's porch that I
don't know and just start firingacross the street at somebody I
don't know and just startfiring across the street at
somebody.
You know what I mean, and inthe process they hit innocent
people.

(34:27):
In that process, you know, andthat's what I was kind of
getting at.
It's like I get everythingyou're saying I think it's a
choice and then it's not achoice.
I think it's a choice and it'snot a choice.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
I get what you're saying, man.
It's all a reflection ofsystemic racism.
Yeah, it's all a reflection ofit.
Yeah, I completely.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
It's the mirror of systemic racism.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
Now the byproduct of what's happening with the
younger generation, now whatthey call these YNs.
At least in our day when therewas beefing situations, people
was beefing over money, for themost part, for the most part, it
was some money.
These guys out here are justrunning around for a wreck.
They're just wreck chasing.

(35:19):
Now that is insane.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
That's what I mean.
That's what I mean Like howmuch of it is a choice.
That's what I mean Like howmuch of it is a choice.
You know what I mean In thisgeneration.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
You know, like when you have people that you know
but, like you said, I think it'seven if it's not about money,
it's the systemic racism portionof it, because what are they
being fed?
I mean, you have, like wealways say, man, you just got an
evil diet, man of music.
An evil diet of, you know,movies, an evil diet of video
games.
You know, just a constant.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
I always thought Call of Duty was weird.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then you know all of themvideo games, where it's like it
desensitizes you to, it makesdeath and funny murder.
I mean death and murder funnybecause it's like even now, when
you watch these kids, right,you know you'd be scrolling
through Facebook and somebodyposts up like some sort of
violent, you know fight orsomething like that, or somebody
getting stabbed or shot, andyou know and you watch these

(36:16):
kids, they're videotaping it whyit's going on in real time.
You'd be thinking to yourselflike if you see this old lady
getting beat up, like why didn'tyou step in there or do
something?
Or I've watched them antagonizesituations between people in
order to order these people tofight and make a fool out of
themselves.
And sometimes, you know, even,like I said, like you said, in

(36:38):
our generation, you know wewould be like, listen, man, you
go over here.
You know what I mean Justseparate, especially if we was
friends and you know we was cool.
You know what I mean and wedefinitely didn't let no females
and you know old people getviolated in our presence.
You know what I mean Somebody,it would be something that click
inside people's heads, be like,nah, we can't do this, you know

(36:59):
, because we had friends thatwould do stuff like this, but
then you had to check them.
You know, I mean like no, youcan't do this, I'm not letting
you go that far with this orwhatever, like that so yeah,
like you can't, you can't besmacking on that that shit, like
that, no, you can't do thatyeah, yeah, not in my presence.
Yeah, it didn't happen.
But uh, like you said, man,that systemic racism, racism
thing is uh horrible.
It's terrible night.
Take all of this, the evilstuff that they're consuming

(37:22):
mentally, and add that with thedrugs, it makes them defensive.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
And the diet.

Speaker 3 (37:30):
Diet, yeah, the diet, and everything like that too,
man, you're right Everythingthat comes with it.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
Yeah, but that's what I look at, man, because what
happens is that you got tolisten to all the different news
and how it's being presented,because everybody has their
agenda.
So if you listen to somethinglike different news and how
that's being presented, becauseeverybody have the agenda, so,
like, if you listen to somethinglike fox news and they're
saying like it's justifiable forhim to put people in there
because, of course, they'regoing to focus on the worst
crimes that's happening, whicheverybody know, these, these

(37:58):
people are being deployed inblack and brown communities.
They're not in, like you know,I mean downtown chicago, where
they're making money and peopleliving good, and they tell you
that.
They'll tell you that on Fox,like yo, like this is going
towards the black community.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
What I hate about that is they continuously and I
wonder if this is like plantedthey seem like all of these news
outlets they go get theblackest of the black person and
say, oh, this is wonderful, youknow, this is wonderful that
they're out here doing this.
You know, I feel like I can eatout on the street free.
You know what?

(38:32):
I mean Like all kinds of stupidgarbage man Conservatives, yeah,
but you know, and again I likethe fact that people, can you
know, chill on their porch andall that other stuff.
Like you know what my problemis, I'm scared of this
government.
The same government that can dothat can also tell you you can
go in your house.
You got to go in your house at8 o'clock at night.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
And that's the thing.
You know that's coming next.
You know it's coming next.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
And this is the thing for me right, and this is why I
don't People be saying, oh, weneed to turn our back on our
brown brothers and sisters.
I hate that man.
If they get this off we're next.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
Oh, you're already in the mix.
You're already in the mix.
You know what I?

Speaker 3 (39:13):
mean yeah, man, I hate you know, because every
time and this is something thatbugs me all together, man, and
this is the ignorance within ourown community, man, whereas
when we see I hate to see thiswhen you know, now they're
talking about the what is it?
The migrant workers and stufflike that in New York, and oh,
they're getting all of thesebillions of dollars and we're
not getting this and we're notgetting that.

(39:34):
Listen, man, you ain't gettingit anyway.
If they took the money from themigrant workers or whatever
like that, they ain't putting itback in the black community.
They're not.
So when you get on here andmake statements, if I'm brown
brother, whatever the case maybe, a lot of times the things
that brothers say on thesecameras, sisters say on these

(39:55):
cameras, it comes off as beingracist man towards brown
brothers.
Man, that's what I get out ofit.
They ain't giving you the money, it's not coming to you.
Yeah, we have to startunderstanding, man.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
Go ahead.
No, what I was going to say isthey're taking the focus away
from the enemy and pointing ittowards other people that's
being marginalized, and sayingthat they're your enemy.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
Hold on, man, going back to the Marvel thing, man
that's the Wakanda joint, that'sthe Wakanda joint man you know
what I mean.
They got the brothers fightingagainst the Hispanics man.

Speaker 2 (40:34):

Speaker 3 (40:35):
The whole Wakanda joint man.
And then remember the Hispanicbrother was like yo listen, man,
we can take them all outtogether.
I'm not saying I definitelywant to kill the white people,
I'm just saying that these arethe undertones.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
Come on home, brother .
Come on home.
I got a bow tie for you.
Come on home.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
You were saying about the X-Men joint?
That's what he said.
They want to frighten eachother Mutant and proud.

Speaker 3 (41:03):
Remember she said that joint in the joint, she was
like mutant and proud.
Remember she said that joint inthe joint, she was like mutant
and proud.
Remember when the chick gotshot in the truck and they hit
her with the tranquilizer orwhatever the so-called cure or
whatever the case may be.
They shot her and her blue skinturned back.
Magneto just left her on theground and walked off.

(41:25):
He was like man.
She was beautiful.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
It's just like these sisters bleaching.
You know what I mean and it'sreal prevalent over there in
Africa.
It's like these sisters wasbeautiful.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
Yo, like, if you see, see them African sisters that
do that bleaching man.
It don't even look right likeafter the whole process is
complete.
It don't match their features.
Yeah that that.
That what was homeboy name?
Was it?
Sammy Sosa did that?
Oh yeah yeah, sammy look crazyman Sammy, look crazy Sammy.

(42:04):
Look like a parent to bed man,he look crazy.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
I sammy looks like that when they finish with that.
Sam, you look like a parent tobed.
Man, you look crazy.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
Why would you do that , man?

Speaker 1 (42:10):
you know, I mean that's that, that's that hate,
that hate of yourself yeah, thatmelon is supposed to match the
feature of your face.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
I'm telling you, man, one of these days you gotta sit
on here and watch, watch thismovie broken up.
Man.
When the it Roe came in theroom Because, remember, they had
watched the news break, and thenews break said they got a cure
for the mutants or whatever,like that or whatever and she
walked in the room with Stormand Professor X, she was like is
it true, they got a cure for us?

(42:38):
Storm looked at her.
What you mean?
They got a cure.
Ain't nothing wrong with us?
Nothing wrong with us.
They ain't got no cure for us.
I got to applaud.
That Ain't nothing wrong withus.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
I'm about to start sending Drake these Dick Gregory
videos.
Man, oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
Dick Gregory is a code man.
Matter of fact, I think it was.
Dick Gregory was the firstperson that dropped a joint
about the Planet of the Apesjoint.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
No, that was Paul Mooney, wasn't it?

Speaker 3 (43:13):
Paul Mooney was one of them.
Dick Gregory and Paul Mooneywas talking about the Planet of
the Apes joint.
When you watch them joints yoube like yo man.
That's crazy.
And then the crazy part aboutit is a lot of people walk out
the movies and got all thissympathy for these mutants.
Go right home and mistreatblack people.
Man, you know what?

Speaker 2 (43:33):
I mean we the mutants , we the mutants, man Mutant,
and proud man, I was like yo man.

Speaker 3 (43:41):
That was crazy man, that whole situation.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
Where is it, brother Dick?
Y'all better start breakingcode.
Start breaking code.
You're entertaining yourself.
You know what I mean, butthat's what it is, man.

Speaker 3 (43:56):
It was a lot of good stuff in them films, man.
I've been watching them crazily.
I went back.
I'm starting to watch the wholeseries over again.
Man, I'm telling you now that Itold you this if you ain't been
paying attention to it likethat, man, when you go back and
watch it now you're going to belike yo this is crazy.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
Yeah, I mean, like I said, I was already on it and I
actually was laughing because Iseen some clips of old Bugs
Bunny cartoons and nigga wasshooting the Indians.
And nigga was shooting theIndians and he was marking it
down.
One little, two little, threelittle.
I was like yo this is crazy bro, yeah man.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
Well, I mean all this stuff like I said man, all of
that stuff man they put in ourentertainment man, it has a lot
of stuff that just be like yoman.
It mentally messes you up, man.
But again, you know it's funny.
The beauty of you know thestreaming channels now is that
you can get down Like I thinkwe've talked about this before

(44:50):
you can actually watch a lot ofthe old shows that we grew up on
.
And a lot of them old showsthat we grew up on man had like
undertones of doing the rightthing.
But these kids, it's why theyso jacked up now because you got
reality TV, you got YouTubers.
You don't have no balance in hiphop music.

(45:11):
It's all just horrible trash,the entertainment is retarded, I
think pop music.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
Man, these little white girls is getting a little
ratchet too.
Man, it's all crazy, yeah,crawling on their knees and all.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
This is my thing.
How are these streamersentertaining?
What's entertaining about theseniggas?

Speaker 2 (45:35):
Which one is it YouTube?

Speaker 1 (45:38):
I'm talking about like Kai.
I don't want to drop them names, but like they're not
entertaining, I feel what you'resaying.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
In fact, I am going to say this because it needs to
be addressed.
Did y'all see that video of Ithink it was Ray J or somebody
trying to get in the shower withthis kid man?

Speaker 1 (45:57):
No, I heard about it.
I seen it on.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
X man, I'm like this is crazy.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
Them kids so weird, I don't you know.
They play with stuff.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
They said Ray J had a hand in that whole Whitney.
Thing.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
Yeah yeah.
Allegedly, allegedly.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
Allegedly.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
But that's what happens, man.
Is that?
I was like looking at it.
I understand what you're saying, because I seen the kid drewski
do the white face thing orwhatever.
And um, which addie murphy, wewere talking about it, that's
addie murphy.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
Years ago I was.
I was just speaking to my girl,like yo, I watched it on snl as
a kid.
Yeah, when it's in the bank toget the loan and all but now
everybody's offended by it, youknow.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
I mean because now a lot of cauc people are saying
like you know, he was wrong forputting on a white face or
whatever, like that.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
How can the oppressor be upset at the oppressed in
any way?
You don't have that right.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
I seen a clip of a man speaking.
He said the only invention thatwhite people never took credit
for was racism.
As a professor, this was nocomedian.
This was a professor.
This was no comedian.
There's a professor giving aspeech White professor at that.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
Not to mention none of these white moderates ever
come out against the KKK.
Why is the KKK still inexistence?

Speaker 3 (47:20):
We just talked about.
You saw the thing I posted upon Facebook Right Some time ago
and it was like 1960s and thiswhite, old, white broad is
probably in the 50s and she'stelling this story.
It's this beautiful story inher head about these freedom
fighters that's coming down heremessing with our good niggas.

(47:42):
We have a wonderfulrelationship with our niggers.
This is the 50s and the 60s.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
Oh, okay.

Speaker 3 (47:52):
This was going down in the 60s too.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
No, I'm saying, I thought it was something recent.
I was like what?

Speaker 3 (47:57):
But you know what's crazy, people at that time,
black people at that time werelooking at her as an ally.
They were looking at her as anally.
They would look at her as anally.
We have those same people rightnow who are sitting here, white
folk who you go to your job andyou love and everything like
that you have.
You have probably like a goodworking relationship with them.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
But they'll tell you it's wonderful, what's trump,
trump is doing not not tomention those people that were
up, that were born in thosetimes.
Are our parents right?
This is the information, ortheir parents?
This the information is beingfed to the children.
You know I'm saying so, likewhen people say that this is not

(48:40):
a real thing.
You can clearly see that thisis a real thing.
That's been happening since,not even before then, but you
can see how it still has acorrelation now, because these
are, these are the people thatraised the people that are in
charge of the world right now.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
Yeah, I had a white friend that I used to work with.
Every day, man, we still hadlunch with a female man and we
all, we all went you know lunchand you and we all went you know
lunch and you know all the time, man.
And I remember, like one timewe had a discussion I was

(49:15):
talking to somebody Black in theoffice about what's the thing
oh my gosh, the people gettingyou know, black people getting
pulled over or stuff like thatman Right right and we was
having this conversation and youshould have seen her face turn
up, man, like she was upsetabout you know that we was
discussing this Like.
She was like.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
Uncomfortable.

Speaker 3 (49:32):
It wasn't even uncomfortable.
She was like in totaldisagreeance to what we were
talking about.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
The nerve of you niggas talking about.
You want to, you going to talkabout.

Speaker 3 (49:40):
And then she was a good.
I ate with her every day.
You know.
Ate with her every day.
You would think that you know.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
Was she different after that conversation?

Speaker 3 (49:48):
No.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (49:50):
No, she was just.
It was just what it is and youknow it goes back.
You know I heard Martin LutherKing say this a long time ago.
He was like the white moderateis the worst thing you know.
He said you know with theracists, you just know where
they stand.
The white moderate believethey're doing their righteous
due diligence in the world.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
And they always try to cloak it in righteousness.

Speaker 3 (50:13):
Yeah, they believe that they're good white people.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
Doing a service for you, savages.

Speaker 3 (50:23):
You know what's funny ?
I don't even think in a lot ofsense.
They even think like that.
I think they just think, likeyou know, I'm a good, righteous
white person.
I go to church, everything likeyou know.
You got some white people thatgo to these churches that you
know they support Trump.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
Yeah, I've seen the clips and they talk about we.
We, we give you guys cultureand we you know what I'm saying.
Like you guys are savages andwe put clothes on you.
You know what I'm saying?
Like we taught you a differentreligion.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Like, come on, man they say this in the church
there's white people that saythis all the time yeah, all the
time, man, I don't think theysay this in the church, I don't
say wow no, but these are thearguments.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
When you see people having these arguments with
white people about racism,they're like well, we helped you
guys.
You guys were in the junglewith no clothes on.
It's funny.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
If that conversation goes down like that, right when
you lash out, there'll be thesame ones that say I didn't own
slaves.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
Yeah, exactly, my parents didn't own slaves.
You ones that say I didn't ownslaves, you know my parents
didn't own slaves.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
So it's like, but they can tellyou something like that.
It's crazy, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (51:29):
Like it's gone so crazy man when I went down to my
uh I don't know if he was withus when we went to visit my
grandmother one time man inSouth Carolina, man, and there's
a white church that's likeright here, right, and behind
that white church is a coloredcemetery.
They put a new sign on it.

(51:49):
It said color cemetery.
But you know, back in the days,a lot of times If white people
let you in the church, they willput you in the balcony.
And if they buried you theywouldn't let you put, they
wouldn't let them bury you inyour church cemetery.
You went to the color cemetery.
You know what I mean and that'swhat I'm saying.

(52:10):
That's the kind of weirdogarbage that comes with.
You know, and I'm not,obviously I believe in the Bible
.
I don't got nothing to do withyou know.
I don't believe the Bible hasnothing to do with their thought
process.
They just racist.
But I'm just saying that youknow a lot of people who think
that they're this righteousgroup of people.
They're part of this righteousgroup of people they believe in.
You know what's the thing we sawthe other day where the, where

(52:33):
he was talking about Trump right, and it was talking about him
deporting people.
So this white dude had amicrophone in his Trump
supporter face and he says, well, you know, you know.
He kind of saying like, well,you know, you know.
You kind of saying, like youknow, jesus is from a place,
reading the word of color likewould you let him in this
country?
She was like if he was herelegally, he said jesus christ,

(52:56):
you want jesus to get his papers, you know.
I mean this is the crazyportion about what people you
know.
I mean you want jesus to havegood paperwork to come to the
United States.

Speaker 2 (53:06):

Speaker 3 (53:08):
These people be believing that they're righteous
people.
Man.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
It sounds like a parthai to me.

Speaker 3 (53:14):
Yeah, it does sound like that man.
Well, again, we're not there.
But that's one of the thingsthat I fear in regards to that
man because, again, like I said,if a man can you know, put this
, you know these national guardout on the street and whatever
the case may be, you know he canalso tell you to go in your

(53:34):
house at a certain time, youknow what I mean.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
Can't do this.

Speaker 3 (53:36):
But I got to do my homework on this because when I
was in the military man, Iforget the numbers, man, but at
one time or another I thoughtthere was more minorities in the
military than there wasCaucasian people, Because my
experience in the military, youknow, and maybe I was in the
wrong in the West, I don't know,but it was a lot of.
I didn't see as many whitepeople as I saw minorities.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
And I could be completely wrong.
But this is the thing right Ifyou control the mind of that of
said minority, they'll act likewhite people but you know what I
will say in this generation, Ithink these kids are different.

Speaker 3 (54:14):
You know what I mean because they voted for Trump.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
We all knew where Trump stood.
We all knew where Trump stoodand.
I'm not even saying that theother choice was the right one,
but we all knew he said what hewas going to do and they voted
for that, even though thatdirectly conflicted their
personal interests, because intheir mind they're Caucasian.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
I don't necessarily wholeheartedly agree with that.
I'm not saying that they aren'tright.
I'm quite sure there's a bunchof them that you are right about
, man but I just think they, Ithink I think the social media
thing man has like messed peopleup.
Like I just said, like we werejust talking about this
conversation, how people get onthe um, the news.

(55:05):
I'm seeing constantly on thenews black people saying oh, we
love you know this, for whateveryou want to say, so almost like
a police state thing, we loveit.
This is what they're saying, welove it, you know.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
I mean, and for all I know, these people could be
planted and I was going to saybecause those are the people
that you see on the news.
Now, if you're going to actualinternet, where you got people
that's out there in the streets,it's a completely different
conversation, you know, I mean.

Speaker 1 (55:33):
I mean, I had an experience with somebody.
Well, okay, I'll tell you thewhole thing.
When I was inside I worked in alittle library and the brother
that kind of ran the job.
He came in and he was tellingme how he was jogging in the
morning and they ran down on him, threw him on the ground and

(55:54):
everything.
But he was cool with thathappening because he knows that
they're keeping his neighborhoodsafe.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
Even if he's arresting him.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
Yeah, that's crazy.
Yeah, like you got slammed onthe ground when you just trying
to get your early morningexercise because you're a nigga
and you're cool with that.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
I would never be cool with that that would never be
cool with that.
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
Wow.
And now he's in jail withoutbeing in a neighborhood that
they're protecting.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
No, no, no, he's an outsider, he's an outsider, oh,
okay, okay, he comes into work.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
Oh, he comes into work, okay, okay, I got you.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
Yeah, he wasn't.
I'm just telling you, I wasthere.
He comes in.
He's the outsider.
He comes in to run the spot.
You know what I?

Speaker 2 (56:35):
mean.

Speaker 3 (56:38):
You know, I had a similar argument with somebody
before in regards to the deathpenalty and I was telling them
like, and it's a black person.
I was like there's no one inthe world I could ever support
the death penalty.
I mean, just on the righteousside, my religious side wouldn't
let me do that, you know.
Just take a person's life, youknow.
You know, through the courtsystem, whatever, like that.
But then I was like I literallysat down with this person.
I told him, I said you know,you do realize that minorities,

(57:02):
you know black and brown people,first of all, we just get
railroaded through the system.
But this, you know, there'sevidence, factual evidence, to
show that we are more likely tobe killed than white folk.
How could you vote forsomething like this?
How could you stand on the sideof this?
You know what I mean when youknow that, first of all, we get

(57:25):
jammed up in the system.
Number two if it's between youand a white person, you're going
to fry.
The person, I, you know.
If it's between you and a whiteperson, you're going to fry.
And I was like you got theperson I was talking to was a
female.
I was like you got blackchildren.
Your child might be in thatsituation one day.
So I was like there's no way inthe world I could ever support
that system.
And the person was just likeyou know, you're not black stuff

(58:00):
like that and maybe, like yousaid again, part of maybe, some
sort of systemic racism andself-hate you know in there
I don't know, but uh, there's alot of stupid people that we
have these dumb conversationswith on the regular black people
.
I don't know, but there's a lotof stupid people that we had
these dumb conversations with onthe regular Black people.
I don't know man.
Like I said again, I oftenwonder because, you know, even
they were talking about when theBlack Lives Matter thing

(58:20):
happened and they was havingthose rallies and whatever, and
they were saying that theybelieve that there's people that
are in those rallies, that arein there to personally incite
certain things.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
Yeah, they are.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
You know, incite certain things in order for you
know things to go way louder,just like when I guess lack of a
better term they were calledriots was happening in Philly
during the pandemic.
They said that it was peopleout there, caucasian people out
there, that was breaking windowsof stores and like hey, come on

(58:59):
y'all, just so they can provokethe situation.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
Yeah, and that's what you'll see with this, and
that's what the congressman outof Chicago was saying, is that
they might send people out thereduring that Mexicanican pride
parade to do that.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
You know I mean, this might be, uh, another civil war
man, if it gets to this point,because I'm telling you, yeah, I
think it's leading to it spikewas on espn.
To bring it back to spike hewas on espn promoting this movie
and, uh, I think stephen a hadasked him something about this
and he was like man, he was likey'all get away.

(59:36):
Spike was like, yeah, y'all getaway with that in Washington DC
.
Bring that down to Brooklyn.
It's going to be a totallydifferent ballgame.

Speaker 2 (59:42):

Speaker 3 (59:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
So I was like man.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
To be honest with you , like you said, they do have
the provocateurs, but there's alot of liberal white people
that's going to go way left withthis.
There's a lot of liberal whitepeople, are they really?
Let me tell you something aboutwhat I believe about a lot of
Caucasian people.
There's two different types ofI don't want to say two

(01:00:08):
different types, but there'sseveral different types of
Caucasian people.
There's some that's brought upin the Northeast, there's some
in the Midwest.
They all have differentmentalities.
There's a lot of liberal whitefolk that live in the city man
that have their Black friends in.
Whatever the case may be, theygo crazy.
I always say this too.

(01:00:31):
I think there's a lot of peoplethat actually believe in the
concept of America.
They believe in theConstitution and all that other
stuff like that.
I don't necessarily subscribeto that.
I don't believe because I'mBlack.
I haven't seen the Constitution.
It don't work for me.
But they believe in theConstitution.
They believe in what Trump'strying to do right now trying to

(01:00:52):
get another, third and fourthterm and all that other stuff.
There's some people that holdtight.
They don't want thatdictatorship and all that other
stuff like that.
I think that would be a problemfor a lot of them.
I'm not saying you and I, likeI said, we talk about this all
the time, we have differentviews on white folk.

(01:01:12):
I don't believe all Like I said, I got some good white brothers
that I can believe.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
I'm going to tell you why I disagree with you.
Why's that?
Because we've never seen thewhite folk that you're talking
about ever storm the Capitol.
We see them other white folksstorm the Capitol and nothing
happens.
The white folks that you'retalking about, that would be
allies.
We never seen them.
Niggas do that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
Well, I think the thing about that is that it's
like us.
We don't storm the Capitol, wedon't fight like that until we
push to the limit.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
We don't storm the Capitol because they're going to
shoot us.
That too know what I mean.
Like we don't, we don't stormthe Capitol because they're
going to shoot us.

Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
That too.
But I mean, what I'm saying iswe don't really we don't really
act physically until we'repushed.
And I believe that there's alot of people that are white,
that they just go about theireveryday life and they're just
trying to.
You know, everyday life, theydon't have no problem.
But push them in that situation, I believe they'll react.

(01:02:14):
You know, I mean just like Igive a perfect example.
I mean you talked about thisbefore.
It's like when we talk aboutstuff that goes on in different
countries, like we know rightnow that in certain parts of the
middle east there's blacks,there's slavery, which something
in all of us here in americayou know is, or any black people
in the world should be uprisingabout.

(01:02:35):
But we just go about ourregular day in life because, you
know, we just want to feed ourfamilies and come home or
whatever like that.
But there's something in usshould not be able to be
accepted to.
You know the fact that there'ssomewhere you know I've seen
online where they're packingblack people in the back of
trucks in the Middle East.
You know what I mean and we'reaccepting to it.

(01:02:57):

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
Nobody's saying anything.

Speaker 3 (01:02:59):
But it doesn't hit home for us Because we don't see
it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
Yeah, it don't hit home for us because it's over
there.

Speaker 3 (01:03:05):
We don't see it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
We're dealing with enough over here.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
We'll try to put you in the back of a truck.
How would that work, Jay?

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
I'm still trying to deal with the remnants of them
taking my insurance.
Seriously, bro, that's the realthing.
It's a lot of stuff going on,yeah it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:03:29):
Stuff like that, going on with that kind of stuff
, man, and, like you said, I'mstarting to see a lot of old on
an everyday basis.
I would see her and she wouldblack hood.

(01:03:51):
You know, trump is this.
He put money in my accountduring the pandemic.
Same goofy Been talking thatfor about the whole year, or
whatever the case may be.
Now, everything going left.
He's a dirt bag or whateverlike that.
He told you what he was.
He didn't cover nothing up.
He told you what he was.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
I know someone who has a special needs child who is
like the child is like 18, 19years old.
The child is able to dressthemselves, but they are
definitely special needs.
Their check and everything andthe medical and everything for
that child got cut off becausethey're saying that that child
is self-sufficient.

Speaker 3 (01:04:33):
Wow, Like it's terrible out here.
Yeah, the industry where wework right now you know I'm
getting particular, but you knowit's funded by a lot of
government funding.
Right now that governmentfunding is being pulled up, man,
we just lost like 40 managers.
And they're well, I mean we.
And they're well.
I mean we can say you knowwe're working in this, we work

(01:04:56):
with autistic people, autisticelderly children.
You know different kind ofpeople and that industry right
now.
You know they're being jackedup by this.
So I mean, even right now,you're looking at the whole.
You know they pretty muchforget I'm not sure because I
didn't follow it Friday butthey're waiting for the returns

(01:05:16):
on this job market right now andif that goes left, the stock
market will go left.
All these things are goinghaywire and you know, and some
people are stupid enough tobelieve that Donald Trump is the
only person that is behind this.
He's nobody, he's just thefront man.
For it's just crazy to see howall these things are going left

(01:05:40):
and people are just like allright, I love Trump, no matter
what.
It's almost like he's becomingsome sort of spiritual being or
It's some of these people'seyes, not mine.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
Some of these people's eyes.
I've seen people talk about it.
People used to say this crazything.

Speaker 3 (01:05:59):
People used to say this crazy stuff about Barack.
Some people get nuts with thispolitical garbage man People
like Martin Luther King, jesusand Barack.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
I believe I told y'all before when I was driving
across the country, every time Iwould be like anywhere other
than the Northeast.
You go in the back and you'llsee F for rock.
It's like you know F for niggas.
It's like damn, like what'sgoing on here, I think when we
did it, you know the driving.

Speaker 3 (01:06:30):
I think everybody should drive across the country.
I think everybody should driveacross the country.
I think everybody should driveacross the country, especially
black people.
You learn a lot Then you'lllearn that you are in America.
Yeah, a lot of people.
Black people are brought up inthese major cities.
They're none around black,they're only around black people
and everything is.
You know, let's fight and go towar and all this other stuff

(01:06:52):
like that.
Get yourself in your car andjust drive to that Midwest.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:06:57):
And see where you are in America, you know what I
mean, and then I'll tell you.
Politically, you'll know whowill be the president, based off
of what goes on when you takethis ride.

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
It's one of two cities in every state, Well, not
even every state In most statesthat have a black community.
Other than that, it's not there.

Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
There's a lot of places.
Man Ain't no brothers man.

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:07:21):
Ain't no brothers, man.
You know what I mean and youknow how it is.
When you go to them truck stopsor whatever the case may be
White people get they get realcrazy in some of these truck
stops, man.
They start talking real nuts.
Man.
You be sitting there eatingdinner or breakfast or something
like that.
Man, they be talking real crazy.
You think you was inBrownsville, brooklyn or

(01:07:41):
something.
The way they talking to you orsomething like that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
You got to look around and makesure, like hold up, Is you
talking to me?

Speaker 3 (01:07:47):
Yeah yeah.
They're indirectly talking toyou.
You might be sitting at a waifuhouse or whatever them
different places where you eatHuddle house, yeah, huddle house
, or something like that, andthen they'll bring up the news
and they'll be like he need tobe tarred and feathered.
You're like what Hang?

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
on, hang on, they're like hold on what?

Speaker 3 (01:08:13):
Yeah, I mean, you know they be talking crazy, man,
you know so.
You know it's a whole differentthing, man, but you got to get
out in this world.
If you ain't going to travelthe world, you definitely need
to ride around America and findout where you're at.

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
Yeah, you get out there in Iowa and Utah and
Nebraska.
Well, yeah, nebraska, you knowwhat I mean.
You'd be like damn ain't noniggas.

Speaker 3 (01:08:36):
Listen, man, I tell people all the time, man, that
area out there Nebraska, iowa,idaho, south Dakota, north
Dakota it's a beautiful portionof America, but I want no parts
of it.
You know, what I mean.
I want no part.
It's beautiful, you go outthere.
You're like man.
That's beautiful out here.

(01:08:56):
Man, go into that local Walmart.
You're not going to thatWalmart man.

Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
The only place that I was at where it was
predominantly white but thepeople were just extremely nice,
was Wisconsinisconsin.

Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
Yeah, I never really messed around in wisconsin man,
but I drove through there, butthat's what they said.
It's the most liberal liberalarea.

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
They they act.
They was.
It was so cool that when I wasin the walmart I seen the cheese
here and I was I can't believepeople have these.
And then the lady put it in herhead and was like take a
picture so your friends will seeit.
Yeah man, you know what I'msaying, wow.

Speaker 3 (01:09:38):
And that's what I said, man.
And again, going back to all ofthis, man, I believe there's
good people in every culture man.
I never have that thoughtprocess of I think.
You know we always talk aboutthis how some of these people
just give some white people toomuch power.
Like they talk about them likethey're superheroes or something
.

(01:09:59):
Like the white man can do thisand the white man can do that
and whatever.
Like man.
Listen, man, there's goodpeople in every culture man.

Speaker 1 (01:10:06):
You just got to find them.
I think when people be sayingthat at least when I say that I
refer to their laws they havethe ability to make those laws.

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
Yeah, you talk different.
I know what you're saying youknow what I mean Me, and you
disagree on certain things, butI know what you're saying, man.
I'm like, yeah, you know, we'rekind of like going back to, we
like Magneto and Professor X man.
Magneto and Professor X.
Man, yeah, man, like, yeah, manLike.
I hear you, man, but all thesepeople ain't that bad man.

(01:10:35):
You be like man.
All of them bad.
That's crazy yeah man, but Ineed to check out the X-Men
joints again, man, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
I'm definitely mad.
So final thoughts man Spikemovies rock these days X-Men are
good and we Spike.

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
Spike is out of touch with what we trying to see.
We like Ryan Coogler.
We support Ryan Coogler do youthink?

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
do you think it's time?
I mean, this is final thought,man, cause we gonna wrap this up
, but Spike been whack to bringit back.
To bring it back and I likeSpike.
We said a lot of good things onthis show, man but to bring it
back to Spike man, do you thinkit's time for Spike to retire?
I mean as long as he?

Speaker 3 (01:11:19):
can get a dollar.

Speaker 1 (01:11:20):
He can never retire a creative, but he might need to
bring somebody else in to helpredefine his division, Because
the same things that he wasdoing in the 80s you can't do
that now.
It's movie.

Speaker 3 (01:11:36):
Movie making is so much better yeah, and then you
can do so much like you canreally put a good film together
for so much less.
Yeah, you know, I mean so Ithat's why I think me he was
just talking about this theother day was like all of these
um artists, a lot of these blackactors and stuff, they're
constantly waiting on thesewhite organizations to put a

(01:11:58):
movie together.
Y'all got money, oh you'retalking about Wells Fargo.
Put the money together and put agood project together.
Yeah, yeah, you know what Imean.
Like you shouldn't no longer.
I mean you watch kids in thesehoods now with a iPhone are
making whole movies.

Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
I was a big fan of Money andViolence.

Speaker 3 (01:12:18):
Yeah, I was a big fan of it too, man.
I watched it, I enjoyed it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
Even though it wasn't great acting, the concept and
the story is what I was likethis stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:12:30):
I'm going to tell you what's crazy about that.
What you got out of Money andViolence is that they gave you
the thing that the Spike Leemovie is missing.
That's right, Even though theydidn't do it as great, they
didn't have the cinematographyand all these great actors.
In whatever case may be, itwasn't.

(01:12:51):
It's something like I said, inSpike Lee movies there's
something that's always missingout of it.
Where you're like man, this isa good concept, I'm digging
where he's going, you know, beatme out of my money several
times and that's what the old Ihad with this particular one is
that it was a good movie.

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
What a good concept.

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
Could have had a lot of good movie.

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
What a good concept Could have had a lot of good
twists, Because even when I'mwatching them flick, I'm
thinking like you know all theplayers around Denzel's
character.
I'm thinking like could thatperson be the one that set him
up?
Or this person to be the one toset him up, or somehow that
person's involved in it, and itwas like you could have had fun
with that.
But then it was like it gotkind of predictable.

Speaker 3 (01:13:33):
You know what I mean he lost it after Mo Better Blues
, malcolm Jungle Fever.

Speaker 2 (01:13:40):
That's it for me, or School Days maybe Spike was just
a man of his time.
You know what?

Speaker 3 (01:13:46):
I mean, you know the reason why I want to say he
should retire and he should keepat it, because he's kind of
like it's kind of like you knowwhat I'm saying.
He's kind of like the RandallCunningham of movies for us man.
He was the guy that came inwhen we didn't get black movies,
man.

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
You gotta respect that fact he gave black people
the speed.
If it wasn't for Spike, heprobably wouldn't be on Ryan
Coogler.

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
But I think he he's one of the black leads in movies
.

Speaker 3 (01:14:15):
I think he also should be a leader in the sense
of like, all right, you knowsome of you kids on these
YouTube, man y'all puttingtogether some good projects, man
, let's put some camera workbehind these kids, man, and let
them do something man.

Speaker 1 (01:14:28):
But you also you know what we forget about the
derogatory things that Spikewould do towards black people,
Like there actually is aninterview where he's talking
crazy about Deion Deion.
Who?
Deion Sanders?
Oh yeah, yeah, I don't know whohe thinks he is.
He needed to stick to one sport.
He want to play all the sportsand be all.

Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
And I'm glad that you said that, because maybe that's
the problem that you see withSpike Spike stays in one lane.
You know what I mean, whereaswhen you look at a person like
Ryan Coogler, he branches outthe man done the dramatic movies
, did the Black Panther.
In fact, you're going fromFruitvale Station to Black
Panther, to Rocky you know whatI mean Good film.

Speaker 3 (01:15:08):
All of them is good films.

Speaker 2 (01:15:10):
Yeah, and it's not the same lane.
You know what I?

Speaker 3 (01:15:12):
mean Especially Fruitvale Station.
I would say that's probably.
I think that was the betterfilm out of the three you just
named.

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):

Speaker 3 (01:15:20):
We like Wakanda and all the other stuff like that
but I like Fruitvale Station.

Speaker 2 (01:15:25):
But each one of them was a lane that you respected.

Speaker 3 (01:15:26):
I like Sinners.

Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
I've never watched it .

Speaker 3 (01:15:29):
I've never seen it, never seen it, never seen it,
man.

Speaker 1 (01:15:32):
Y'all watched that Spike movie but you ain't
watched Sinners.

Speaker 3 (01:15:35):
I didn't watch the Spike movie.
I told you I don't come out.
I don't come out of that house,I'm going to tell you something
.

Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
It's something and I don't want to sound racist when
I say this, but it's somethingabout black monsters.
That kind of hits different forme.
I'm glad Black folks with fangsand stuff kind of hit different
.

Speaker 3 (01:15:55):
I'm glad you say that I don't really think horror
films.
I never really was into horrorfilms.
This wasn't a horror filmBecause that's what I thought it
was.
It's not a horror film.
I'm going to tell you.

Speaker 1 (01:16:06):
It's not a horror film.

Speaker 2 (01:16:07):
I got scarred by black people.

Speaker 1 (01:16:11):
It has horror elements to it, but it's one of
those things where this isrepresenting something totally
different.
If you're catching it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
I got scarred by Blackula brother.

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
I don't even know why you watched it.

Speaker 3 (01:16:25):
Blackula was the joint of his time.

Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
I was a kid.
No, not Vampire and Brooklyn.

Speaker 3 (01:16:31):
That's my regular.
That's what I'm saying.
I stopped watching horror films.
Man, I can't do it, man, I'm aspiritual person.
Now I've been thinking I'mgoing to bring something home
with me.

Speaker 1 (01:16:45):
I agree with you with that.
I watched the remake of theExorcist years ago and I started
to watch it and I'm like, oh, Ican't do this.
I cannot do this.

Speaker 3 (01:16:59):
Listen, man.
I remember when I was a kid manI think about five.
I was young man when theExorcist they had put it on TV.
Man, I remember watching itwith my mom.
Man, I was messed up back then.

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
I was like, oh no, this ain't right.
You ever see the movies andyou're like yo, these people
have tapped into somethingunnatural.

Speaker 3 (01:17:19):
This is not right, man.

Speaker 1 (01:17:21):
I agree it does something to my spirit.
I'm like I'm not even with this, All that stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:17:32):
Omen, damien, exorcist, amityville Horror, all
them joints To this.
To this day, man, I can't sitdown and watch them films, man.
I watched them back in the days, you know, just around people,
and they all did it.
You know, I watched it withthem.

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
I can't do it now the whole Conjuring and Annabelle
doll and all that, no, not in myhome the only one that I can
watch still is Michael Myers,because it's funny to me.

Speaker 1 (01:17:55):
I don't really get scared, it's more suspenseful.
I'm like this ain't real.
That other stuff it gives theelement of supernatural realness
.
You know, it's just a feeling.

Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
Because in most cases , this is based on somebody's
true story.

Speaker 3 (01:18:13):
It's happened to some evil man.
You know, I remember growing upand you know when we was in the
hood, you know we had the.
You know your boys bring thevideotapes over to the house and
you'd be like man, let's watch.
So the man in you don't want tosay like listen, man, I don't
want to watch.
But in reality you're like man,you only got no comedy yeah,
when it's over you need a mentalcleansing man.

Speaker 2 (01:18:35):
Like, oh no.

Speaker 3 (01:18:36):
I was messed up from Candyman man.
I was messed up behind Candymanman.
He said Candyman, rememberCandyman.
When he said Candyman in themirror man, I was scared to do
that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
And you know what I'm going to tell you why?
Because it was a brothermurdering people.
For some reason I'm not sayingit in a racist tone at all, man,
but it's just something aboutthese black monsters that hit
different places.

Speaker 3 (01:18:58):
I'll tell you what else I can't watch.
Man, I'll tell you what else Ican't watch.

Speaker 2 (01:19:02):
You told me to look like my uncle son.

Speaker 3 (01:19:05):
It's kind of crazy when you think about it.
Right, our scariest movies nowis about white men.
Yeah, yeah, our scariest moviesnow is about white men.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jeffrey Dahmer.

Speaker 2 (01:19:15):
These people existed.
John Wayne Gacy.

Speaker 3 (01:19:19):
John Wayne Gacy.
I can't watch none of themjoints either, man, I don't care
who he is.

Speaker 1 (01:19:23):
The American government yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:19:32):
Any biopic about an old president, Nervous man.

Speaker 3 (01:19:37):
I was scared watching the Clinton joint.
Man You're talking about howmany people Clinton done
murdered.
I was watching the documentary.
I said, man, I got to turn thisoff.
Man, this is too crazy, theymight come and tap me out or
something.

Speaker 2 (01:19:47):
Locked up.
It's a lot of things that kindof make me uneasy.
I'm watching Locked Up orwhatever like that, when they
show you in jail or whatever thecase is.
If you're on YouTube and hearprison stories, that's scary for
me.

Speaker 3 (01:20:02):
I had to stop.
Man, I remember watching 48hours I used to watch 48 hours
on the regular man and I wasjust like, you know, just
watching.
And I was like man, I rememberone Saturday sitting in the
house and I'm just in theheadlock, man, you know, just
watching it from the down.
I was like man, I remember oneSaturday sitting in the house
and I'm just in the headlock,man, you know, 48 hours after 48
hours, and I was like I feelbad, you feel, yeah, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:20:22):
I couldn't ever get with the first 48.
I was like I can't watch.

Speaker 3 (01:20:24):
First 48, that's what it is, yeah yeah, I couldn't
watch it.
It was kind of funny.
The passing Philadelphiaairport Put me on that Philly
Cats man.
We were sitting in the airport,we were watching the first 48.
We were like oh he about tocrack.

Speaker 1 (01:20:41):
My uncle love it.
I'm like I can't, I can't do it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
Can't do it, man, too much of a murder.

Speaker 3 (01:20:47):
Depression, man, you know.
Then you watch how people Getkilled over nothing, man, you
know what I mean.
And then a lot of it, man.
Then you watch how people getkilled over nothing, man, you
know what I mean.
A lot of it is about us dying.
No matter who dies, it's bad,but mother struggling get killed
over nothing, it's crazy.
I remember one time they shot asister I think that was the time

(01:21:10):
when I gave it up man.
She got kicked out of herapartment and she had a U-Haul
and she was going to drop offher stuff in the U-Haul and
these young cats pulled up onher, robbed her for $80 and shot
her and killed her.
And I remember them telling thedude what's his name Like yo,
you realize, you shot a personwho was like this is probably
the worst day of her life, man,you know what I mean.

(01:21:31):
You know she lost her apartmentand everything like that, and
then you just want to shoot herfor over $80 and kill her.
So I was like that's when Ikind of stopped watching that
stuff.
It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:21:42):
All right, chelsea, we're going to wrap this up,
though.
It was good to have all thebrothers back on man.
All right, y'all.
So we're going to get ready toride this one out, brother,
thank you.
Thank you, guys again forshowing up, doing what we

(01:22:03):
normally do.
All right, so until the nextride, guys, check this out.
The only one of my podcasts isavailable on all major platforms
.
You can stream your pods to usor wherever you listen.
That's where we are.
Be sure to check out ourYouTube channel to catch us from
the past and current episodes,and please don't forget to rate
the show and hit the subscribebutton.
Thank you to all the newsubscribers that we have so far.

(01:22:23):
Y'all, we really appreciate it.
And also, you can follow us onInstagram and X at
TheOnlyOneMike31, facebook andLinkedIn at the only one mic
podcast, and email us at theonly one mic.
00 at gmailcom.
Call or text us at 302-367-7219.
Your voice, your questions,your take can be featured on the

(01:22:43):
show.
Alright, brothers, thank y'allonce again for your time.
Good to have us all backtogether again now and, as
always, we encourage you, please, to speak the truth quietly and
clearly and listen to others,even the dull and ignorant,
because they too have theirstory to tell.
Until next time, please keep inmind if you ever had to run
from the Ku Klux Klan, then youshouldn't have to run from a

(01:23:04):
black man, unless he's likeCandyman or Katz from Sinister
alright peace, boom, boo, tootnigga.
From.

Speaker 1 (01:23:12):
Philly, catch you soon.

Speaker 2 (01:23:14):
All right, peace, boom boo too.

Speaker 1 (01:23:15):
Nigga, fulfill me.

All Episodes

Episode Transcript

Popular Podcasts

Stuff You Should Know

Dateline NBC

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

.css-15opob5{left:0;position:absolute;top:0.8rem;} All Episodes

.css-14f5ked{margin:0;word-break:break-word;display:-webkit-box;-webkit-box-orient:vertical;box-orient:vertical;-webkit-line-clamp:2;overflow:hidden;}Breaking Down Spike Lee’s Latest Film, X-Men’s Racial Allegories, & Trump’s Attack on Black Communities

Episode Transcript

Popular Podcasts

.css-r6mb8g{margin:0;word-break:break-word;display:-webkit-box;-webkit-box-orient:vertical;box-orient:vertical;-webkit-line-clamp:1;overflow:hidden;}Stuff You Should Know

Dateline NBC

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

All Episodes

Breaking Down Spike Lee’s Latest Film, X-Men’s Racial Allegories, & Trump’s Attack on Black Communities

Stuff You Should Know