September 14, 2025 • 54 mins
We dive unflinchingly into Kirk's legacy of inflammatory rhetoric toward Black Americans—from his claims that Black people were "better off in the 1940s" despite Jim Crow laws to his advocacy for public executions. His final conversation before being shot involved blaming "gang violence" (a well-known racial dog whistle) for America's gun problems. This history makes his death morally complex for many in marginalized communities who recognize violence is wrong while simultaneously acknowledging the harm Kirk's platform caused.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Do you know how many mass shooters there have been in
America over the last 10 years,counting or not counting gang
violence, great Brothers andsisters?
Why, god?
There's one light.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
There's one light.
There's one light.
Give me a moment, would you,friend?
I've never been up to my life'sodds before.
Welcome to the Only One MicPodcast.
Call me Gerard Brooklyn Dre.
J-rob in the building back instudio.
How you feeling, brothers?
I'm feeling good, All right, solisten, man.
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We had some stuff planned, butthen Charlie Kirk got shot, so
now we got to talk about that.
All right, fellas, let's justjump right into it.
Man, Y'all heard the intro.
Everybody's seen the video.
This was a story that's prettymuch been pumping the whole week
.
They've shown this video fromevery angle possible and people
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know how that story ended.
So I'm like, look, we gottajump on here and talk about this
.
Charlie kirk, the conservativeactivist and founder of turning
point usa, was speaking at anevent the america comeback tour
as part of his on-campusspeaking engagements at utah
valley university, and the eventwas outdoors, under a tent.
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Kirk was interacting with theaudience, including a student,
discussing topics including massshootings, and this is around
the time he got shot 12.23 pm,local time, a single shot was
fired, hitting Kirk in the neck.
He was transported to TempagosRegional Hospital, but later
died from his wounds.
Now, fellas, everybody know thehistory of Charlie Kirk.
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All right, Charlie Kirk hassaid some very outrageous things
and I'm going to just prefacethis by saying look man, I'm no
fan of no man gettingassassinated, I'm sorry, in his
case, shot in front of theirfamily.
You know the man had two youngkids and all All that aside, not
, you know, jumping on the wagon, like you know, farting on why
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he dead.
But listen, the guy did saysome really outrageous and
outlandish and inflammatorystuff towards African-Americans
and minorities and America, andhey.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Jay, I was taught a long time ago, man, not to say
nothing about the dead.
And you know, I thought tomyself like is there anything in
the scriptures that say thatyou can't speak?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
bad about the dead, I know that.
But what I do know is the deadknow nothing.
So yeah, what I say is we'respeaking on his history, not
speaking ill against him becausehe did these things.
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Yeah, I mean he was a wicked individual man, like his
speech was very dangerous man,like you know what I mean.
Like it's different from astone-cold racist to that
moderate slick racist talk man,yeah yeah, but I don't even
think his his, his talk wasslick.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
He said that he wanted executions to be done
publicly yes, yes, he did hesaid he got a public execution.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
So no, when I, when I say slick, I mean like you know
, a regular racist will justtell you like I'm outright
racist, I hate blacks, I hateJews, I hate Hispanics, all that
other stuff like that, and theystick on that.
His message was like, if Ilisten to his message, common
sense would tell me he's aracist.
But he's also saying in thebackground no, I'm not really
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racist, I'm a Christian, allthis other bull crap or whatever
.
You know what I mean.
But I'm saying really racist,I'm a Christian, all this other
bull crap or whatever case maybe.
You know what I mean.
I'm saying he's more dangerousthan a hardcore racist Sometimes
.
You know, we had thisconversation about the whole
thing about white moderates.
You know what I mean Whereasthey look at themselves like
these righteous people you knowwhat I mean and I think a lot of
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people that go to his rallies,I think in some ways they
believe they are Christian.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Well, and it's because, you know, if you look
at a lot of Charlie Kirk's, youknow videos, he's speaking the
good talk, you know it's like.
It's like that forked tongue,you know.
I mean he's quoting a Bible.
He's quoting a Bible and he'ssaying things that a lot of um
in this case christianchristians, conservatives like
to hear.
So like, for instance, I'mlooking at a news report where,
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where they were actually, youknow, doing like a memorial for
him, um, and so in the memorial,they, you know these people and
this is out in california, bythe way and these people are
saying, well, you know, charliewas such a good man and they
interviewing different people tomy, how he was a good man and
he was disgusting.
But then they go to this littlegirl and you know what the
little girl said.
I like and this little girlcan't be no more about maybe six
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or seven years old he talkedabout jesus a lot and and it's
like, but the thing is is thathe talked about jesus a lot, but
in that split he also said veryinflammatory things about black
people.
He blamed.
The man's last words were aboutto blame black people for
shootings in America.
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You know what I mean.
So I mean, if you really, ifyou really look at it, and when
I say, when I say black folks,I'm not trying to say as a black
man, every black person is inthe game.
But the dog whistle to whiteconservative America is when you
say gang urban.
You know things of that naturethey're talking about black
folks.
You know, what I mean.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Go ahead, jay.
It's really obvious the thingsthat he was saying is
inflammatory and right out, flatout racist.
The fact that we have to againbe held to a different standard
than everybody else, where theykill, maim, destroy our people,
whole families, whole bloodlines, they don't have no remorse for
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it, but one of them get killedby one of them and we supposed
to be seared and be all kumbaya.
I'm not with it.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
You know, like I said , I don't.
I for one, personally, I don'twant to see anybody get murdered
.
I don't, you know I mean.
But at the end of the day, likeI said, man it's, it's this, a
self-inflicted thing is.
You did his the his thing,radicalized this kid to do what
he did.
You know, this kid is 22 yearsold can I say something to be
honest?
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Don't get me wrong, god knows man.
On my righteous side I believethat nobody should get killed.
But I'm not going to lie.
Initially when he got shot Ithought to myself I didn't think
it was good, but I was likehe's a messed up individual.
You know, what I mean and don'tget me wrong.
I'm not trying to promote this.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
I'm not trying to say it's cool, good belly laugh.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
I know, righteously, it's wrong.
I gotta pray against myself,man, because I was like man,
this dude, he says the thingsthat he said.
I believe and I'm telling youright now, and this is what I've
been seeing since Trump got inoffice, man, these guys are
saying stuff that are likepoking the bed, man, you know
what I mean.
They're trying to start a racewar here in America, almost
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that's what I see when.
I see them man.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I would think, yeah, that's definitely it.
I would think, yeah, that'sdefinitely it.
But in this particular case, Ithink that they're going to
invoke some type of law likeKirk's Law or something like
that, and somehow they're goingto regulate this internet.
Because, if you notice, most ofthese mad shooters are like
20-something-year-old white guys.
Let's just be for real.
You know what I mean From LuigiMangione, which he wasn't a mad
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shooter, he just murderedsomebody.
But you know what I mean FromLuigi Maggioni, which he wasn't
a mad shooter, he just murderedsomebody.
But you know what I mean?
All of these guys.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
And this guy just killed somebody and, truth be
told, by their whole doctrine heprobably did radicalize
somebody, if that's real.
But again, in my personalopinion, I don't even believe
that.
But here's the funny part,because if that's the case case
why they grabbed that little fatold white man they didn't have
no gun talking about oh, we gotto shoot it oh, because it's
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called a distraction brotherwell, that's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm saying.
There's no way in the world, uh, a brother or anybody can't
shoot somebody in broad daylightand run, toss the gun and get
away all All right, I'm going todo this real quick.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
I'm going to do this real quick because let's give
the people some context on howthis kid pulled us off right.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Well, hold on.
Let me answer this man, Becauseyou said something about
regulating the internet.
Yeah, they do regulate it.
They regulate it on us.
And don't get me wrong, I'm nota fan of Farrakhan.
But and don't get me wrong, I'mnot a fan of Farrakhan, but you
can't get a speech on.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Farrakhan, the Nation of Islam can't do nothing on it
.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Well, the reason why I say, this and before I get
into the whole they block racistblack people you know what I
mean?
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
They allow racist white people to speak all they
want.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
You know what I mean, and I'm not saying that I agree
with either, or I don't thinkblack people can be racist, but
I'm not sure.
Topic for another show.
You know we always disagreewith stuff over there.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
but yeah, but like I was going to say, is that you
know before I get into thecontext of this kid and how he
pulled this off when I sayregulate the internet, all right
, we can get on the internet asblack folk and we can scroll
through Facebook and X orTwitter whatever you want to
call it some parts of YouTube,and we can watch ourselves as
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black folk beat the dog crap outof old people, kids fighting
themselves videotaping it andthese are girls in the community
beating each other up.
Nobody regulates this stuff now.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
It is regulated or even just being killed by the
police.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
People getting killed and the reason why I say that
is stuff now, uh, that's whatI'm saying, but listen, it is
regulated, but listen, but no,it's not just being killed by
the police people getting killed, and the reason why I say that
is I don't know how much anybodyis on on twitter or whatever,
but I do know this if you scrollthrough twitter, you see
everything from from sex toviolence and and hear me out,
though, the reason why I saythat internet regulation is
different is because whatthey're going to do is, if it's
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us all, right, man, let them goahead and poison their mind, but
when this young white kid getsradicalized, or whatever they
want to call it, from watchingtoo many videos of Charlie Kirk
and everybody like that, orwhoever you're watching, maybe
some Palestine stuff, whateverthey're going to say, man,
that's a mental health crisisstuff.
Whatever they're going to say,oh, man, that's a mental health
crisis Because that kid now isnot.
You know, he's been corrupted,as opposed to.
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We just watched that from weCrazy.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
But that's what I'm saying.
It is regulated.
You can do anything that youwant against black people.
You know what I mean.
He was radical, that white boy,and I'm assuming I don't know
his complete ideology or why hedid what he did or whatever the
case may be, but if you want to,you know, take a look at it.
If anybody was radicalized, hewas radicalized by Chuck himself
.
You know what I mean.
(10:51):
Probably just watching thevideos and got ticked off.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
So listen to this.
They said that this is allalleged according to the
investigation.
Again, I'm getting to the.
In fact, let's just do it allin one shot.
All right, no pun intendedintended, y'all but the um.
They said the shot came fromrooftop of the lou lou center.
Lou center, approximately 200yards, and later revised to
about 140 to 142 yards, fromwhere kirk was speaking.
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The weapon was a beast.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Yeah, yeah, he pulled that one off the weapon was a
military, being a military, myperson, person myself, man, you
know.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
That's good ways, man , but this is a kid, I don't
believe was in the military,which is something.
But that's another thing to say, Like where did he get this
training from?
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Yeah, so we won't get into that in a second.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
I've seen videos.
They said that that was an easyshot.
Anybody that's been in themilitary could have pulled that
off, and he was military trainedbecause he shot the nigga in
the neck and not in the face.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
But there's no record of him being in the military.
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
I don't know if he was there or not.
You're right, with an M16, youpretty much can't hit anybody.
That's why I was surprised hedidn't hit Trump.
I thought that was somebullcrap.
But you're right, you prettymuch should be able to hit
anybody from that range.
But I'm saying that for aregular civilian, from what I
understand, to just grab thatkind of weapon and go to work
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with it, that was amazing.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and so what he did was Maybe the
wrong choice of words, but yeah,we refer to him as the kid.
It's actually Tyler JamesRobinson.
Let's go ahead and put that outthere.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
And so they said how come all you tutors always have
three names?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Tyler James Robinson.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
I mean technically, we all got three.
No, no, no, the third name wasTyler James.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
But Robinson isn't actually a first name.
I guess you can't have Robinson.
I'm just saying they got threenames.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
You got John Wilkes Booth.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
James Earl Ray.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Yeah, allegedly James Earl Ray.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Allegedly.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
He didn't shoot one of the kids.
They always got three names,but if Pookie gets shot it's
just man.
Man from 26th Street did it.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Sprinkle some coke on him.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Put the dope in his pocket.
It said the weapon was ahigh-powered bolt.
It said the weapon was ahigh-powered bolt action rifle,
specifically .30 to .06bolt-action.
I mean, for all of y'all thatknow, you know, and it was a
Mauser type.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
What'd you say?
Say it again what was the?
Speaker 2 (13:34):
weapon.
It was a high-poweredbolt-action rifle, reportedly a
Mauser Am I pronouncing thatright Mauser?
It said it was found laid in awooded area wrapped in a towel,
consistent with messagingsuggesting that the weapon would
be disposed.
Now it said the bullet caseswere unfired and unfired bullets
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were found engraved withprovocative messages, including
examples.
It said notice bulges, o-w-o.
I don't know what that is.
It said one says hey, fascist,catch and O, bella Chao, which
is reference to an anti-fascistsong, bella Chao.
And if you read this you aregay.
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And this is this is what I saidwas on the on on the bullets.
It said digital evidence includediscord messages from some
roommate discussing retrieving arifle from a drop point,
wrapping it in a towel and gravebullets, he said.
And it said that the suspect,tyler james romison, 22 years
old, was from washington, utah,and he was actually from the
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area.
So, and I don't know if y'allseen the press conference with
the um, I don't know if that'sthe police chief of ut, utah and
he was saying that if somethinglike this happened, that they
was hoping that it would besomebody from outside of the
state that came in and first ofall, who makes a statement
saying if this happens, I hopeit ain't somebody from I mean we
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as folks.
Sometime when you hear a crime,you be like man, is he black?
You know that's different, butit's like yo, somebody gonna
shoot up a spot, shoot up yourcollege.
I'm hoping he's not from here.
When you just say I hope nobodydo it.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
I'm a conspiracy theorist.
I thought they was trying tostart the race war.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
I thought he was gonna pin it on somebody black
If he didn't then nothinghappened.
You know what's funny to me?
Well, not funny, but it's kindof ironic that the Trump
administration has pushed outall the so-called woke people
out of the colleges so theycan't speak or they would take
their funding, and they'reallowing these type of people to
come and inseminate thechildren or the young adults.
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The next brightest minds comingup with this nonsense that
Charlie Kirk and people of hisilk, and that's crazy.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
The sad part about it is he wasn't that smart.
Well, that's the thing he wasn'tthat smart it was amazing to me
that a lot of people that youknow, especially the Black
people that he had up there,like it seemed like he was
dog-walking them in aconversation.
I was like I'll just ask themsimply like a question I asked
you earlier.
Let me ask you a question whatis the?
What was it DEI?
What is it for?
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What is affirmative action for?
Why did they bring these thingsinto place?
You know what I mean?
Because the reason why theybrought them into place is
because they recognized thatthere was a problem.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
The crazy part about it is that his response to you
would be to take away jobs fromwhite men.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
And that's exactly the response he gave when he
asked that question.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
But again, that right there is ignorant because we
can actually sit and Google.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
You can right now go on the chat, but right now, not
to interrupt your wisdom, butright now it's like everything
that that side does is just pureignorance and it's like no
matter if they know that it'sincorrect or not.
They still spit it in theirbases, believing it.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
I'm glad you said that Before y'all get—go ahead,
man, I ain't going to interruptyou.
No, I said.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
I believe that to be right, but still in the midst
of—if I'm going to go somewhereto debate somebody, I'm going to
still tell you the truth.
The problem is that when hegoes in these debates and the
ones that I've seen it almostseems like he's actually
intelligent, like he's walkingoff with a victory in the debate
.
You know what I?
Mean and it's impossible tobeat this debate because I'm
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sitting there looking at himlike who are you to talk?
He's actually from a sundowntown.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
In Illinois, that part of Illinois, no, don't
surprise me From a sundown townin Illinois.
You are from a place whereasyou know the history of it, you
know has some foolishnessattached to it.
So how do you, you know, how doyou get to be some sort of
aficionado in?
Speaker 2 (17:39):
these topics.
And this is the thing, and thisis the thing is that I think
the whole bag with this dude ishe's sent to these college
campuses and his whole thingwith that turning point is you
know, almost change your mind.
You know what I mean.
Who do you change the mind of?
Kids who are about 18, 19, 20years old?
Don't know no better.
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Get all the information off theInternet.
If this man could sit here andtell you.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Especially children that haven't been around.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
A bunch of different cultures, right it's equally
influenced their mind with hatebecause they don't know the
other side, no, no, other side.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
But that's what I'm saying, man.
That's the difference in themand that's what makes him so
dangerous.
That's why I didn't even likewhat he was giving out, because
I don't.
I I mean, obviously I don'tlike it, but he's so dangerous
because he's giving it to him ina lollipop.
It's so sweet, it ain't thatregular.
You know, put a clan's head onyour joint and just go out there
.
Although we who are intelligent, or not even intelligent, just
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black people know all the thingsyou're doing is in code.
It's just coded information forracism.
You know what?
Speaker 2 (18:42):
I mean, it's brothers in the hood that could have
tied Charlie Kirk up.
But what happens is that he,from my standpoint of seeing
things and if I didn't seeanything different then let me
know.
In the comments I haven't seenhim debated anybody of worthy
note from the black community.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
None of them.
Nobody was worthy enough,nobody.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
It's almost like they must have, you know, screened
everybody that wanted to talk,or they might have planted them,
it's something you said, toyour credit too, is that he
never took that mess to an HBCU.
You know what I mean.
He tore the places where heknew those were easy wins, you
know what I mean.
So it's like if you were reallyup there in terms of your
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information, you could haveeasily sat down.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Some people are status, some intelligent people.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Some intelligent people For him and people like
him.
Their job is not to reallydebate.
Their job is to spread the word.
And spread propaganda.
If they get debated, they getcrushed.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Right.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
If they really debated they get crushed.
But they can go to these kidsin low-income places and talk
all this nonsense and mask it inreligion and they can be
believed.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Right yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
That's what I'm saying.
That's what makes themdangerous.
Man, like you just said.
The little girl said he talkedabout Jesus a lot Like to make
him seem—everybody talk aboutJesus ain't good.
You know what I mean.
Everybody talk about Jesusain't good.
You know what I mean.
Everybody talk about Jesusain't good.
They don't have no good.
They don't know nothing aboutyou.
He obviously didn't knownothing about Jesus.
If you're talking, what are youtalking?
Speaker 2 (20:23):
The devil know a lot about Jesus.
You know what I mean and that'swhat it is.
You came out there.
It's sad the way that they kindof putting this kid in this
light, like he's this huge model.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
And they have pictures online with him.
With Martin Luther King, yes,and.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Malcolm X Malcolm.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
X Martin Luther King.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
John F Kennedy.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
He said that George Floyd wasn't murdered because of
the police.
He was murdered because of adrug overdose.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Did you see the?
Speaker 2 (20:52):
brother.
He was one of the first peoplethat was promoting that murder
because of a drug overdose.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Did you see the brother?
He's been one of the firstpeople that was promoting that.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Did you see the brother say we don't know if
Charlie Kirk died from a gunshotwound because he might have
fentanyl in his system orsomething?
Speaker 3 (21:08):
I had a whole another joke about the public execution
because he said he wanted Coketo sponsor it.
Now what?
I think?
Would be funny what I thinkwould be real funny is because
we just had the public execution.
What if somebody clipped RayCharles in there and told him
you got the right one, baby.
Uh-huh, that would be hilarious.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
That's stupid Silly man, I want to do this real
quick man because for all thepeople out there that claims
that you know Charlie Kirk wasthis, like you know dude said
the Civil Rights Act was a hugemistake almost something like a
mess to white people.
I mean, I hate to say it likethat, but I want y'all to take a
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quick listen it's important toget out all of this.
Let's get it out, because I'm aright now.
I want y'all to react to thisman.
Whenever you listen to thewhole thing, this is your hero,
folks.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
If I see a black pilot, I'm going to be like boy.
I hope he's qualified.
When blacks in America did nothave the same rights they had
today, they were less murderous,there was less break-ins.
Why is that?
And the data shows they wereactually better in the 1940s.
It was bad, it was evil.
But what happens?
A certain skin color now getstheir own summertime celebration
.
Oh wow, look how far blackshave come.
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It has now become a racialcomplaining day.
Remember what BLM stands forBurn, loot and murder.
Yeah, dei stands for it.
I'm going to be big and earn it, just so we're clear.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
Can we also acknowledge, due to the laws
under Jim Crow, that Blackpeople were?
Speaker 1 (22:42):
significantly hindered from economic
advancement.
This is a really importantquestion.
The data shows not really.
Black Americans are poorertoday, in 2024, than they were
in the 1950s.
The disappearance of the Blackfather has been the number one
driver of black poverty in thiscountry.
At least agree that black dadsnot being around is a bad thing.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Anyone's father not being around is a bad thing.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Starting in the 1980s and continuing onward, there's
been a war on drugs.
Is this correct?
I like the war on drugs.
Blacks commit more crimes thanwhites do.
They commit more murders, theycommit more arsons, they commit
more kidnappings.
That's not a war on drugs,that's a culture problem.
Why are so many blackscommitting murders outside of
their population?
So we've spent $20 trillion onuplifting black communities $20
trillion and black Americans arepoor.
We've spent subsidized housing,medicaid, public schooling,
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subsidized college.
We're talking about $20trillion spent on a great
society, and yet black Americais poorer, more murderous, more
dangerous.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
What does equity mean ?
It means taking from otherpeople.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
So what's your thoughts about that?
I don't even know where tobegin, man.
The only thing that he said wasright was that the loss of the
Black father is part of thebiggest impact on the Black
family.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
The loss of any father.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
He doesn't talk about how the laws that were enacted
to take away the black fatheryou know what I'm saying?
How they incentivize the blackmother to keep the black father
out the household.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
The dude totally dismisses the whole thought of
systemic racism.
You know what I mean.
He totally dismisses the wholethought of why these things
became the way that they are.
You know what I mean.
It totally dismisses the wholethought of why these things
became the way that they are.
You know what I mean.
It's not like you know peoplejust woke up one morning and
decided to walk away from theirchildren.
You don't talk about how thewelfare system, you know, forced
Black fathers to.
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You know, at one point oranother used to have to hide in
the house.
You know what I mean.
Or if somebody in the apartmentcomplex told their social
worker that there was a manliving there, then they had to
get them out of the house andall kinds of stuff like that.
And then we got to take intoconsideration these people who
went into welfare in the 60s.
These are babies andgrandbabies of slaves.
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This is people coming out ofslavery.
This is the reason why thesepeople are in poverty.
You know what I mean.
It ain't like they just choseit.
And again, this is not like howwe came here on our own.
You know what I mean.
We were forced to come here.
We wasn't like everybody hadthis beautiful story about Ellis
Island or anything like thatman, black people were forced to
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come here.
Yeah, I don't really believethat part either, but I'm, I'm,
I'm gonna stick with that.
Well, you know, I mean, we allknow that there's, you know, the
whole morris thing and stuffabout that too, but there was a
lot of black people that wasalso forced to come in.
You know, slavery brought a lot, it's not?
Speaker 3 (25:26):
a what I, what I, what I, what I, what I say is
this right, that's the.
That's the biggest example ofwhite fragility at its finest.
Like this, white man is sittinghere just blaming everything
that's a problem in America onblack people, when there are
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there are more white people inthis country, so there's no way
that black people can becommitting the most murders when
they're not even the most ofthe majority of the population.
Right, come on, man.
But you have these people, awhole group of people that hear
this nonsense and believe it,because one, the education
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system is terrible.
Now, these children are not asintelligent, not as not as
bright or like critic.
They don't have no criticalthinking skills.
So they believe in thisnonsense and they're running
with it Even the joint where hewas talking about.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
You know, we commit more crimes.
It's like that doesn't evenmake logical sense.
Man, I was looking at, I'mlooking at, what Chad GBT right
now says like 59% of you know,white people have like 59% of
all arrest or incarceration.
And it just makes logical sensebecause it's more white people
here, there's more of them, yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
How stupid do you got to be to believe that nonsense?
Right, right, how stupid do yougotta be to believe that
nonsense?
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Right right.
We got whole states wherethere's correctional facilities
and there ain't no black peoplethere.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
The dude said that black people were better off in
the 1940s.
Segregation, Jim Crow, votingrights, job discrimination,
segregated armed forces, GI Billdiscrimination let's go down
Racial violence, policebrutality.
This is the 1940s that we werethriving in.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
In the 1940s, black people were just still
sharecropping.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Restricted housing education inequality.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
It was a regular thing for a group of white
people to march into black townsand take their shit.
So how can we be better off?
Speaker 4 (27:39):
This dude is crazy man, it's disgusting man.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
You know again, I'm not all for anybody just going
out and killing people, but hewas a very, very tough
individual well, the thing is,is that the fact that they prop
him up to the point where, Ibelieve, one place somebody
building a statue for this dude?
Speaker 4 (27:59):
don't ever compare that dude to martin luther king
or malcolm x or malcolm x thatthat's.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
That's what.
That's what makes me upset,because they talk about him
being assassinated.
This nigga got shot.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Somebody said something listen to this too,
brother.
They was like he technicallywas not a political figure, but
yet they paint this as a.
They paint this.
They're painting it as apolitical assassination, but
he's not a political figure.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
He's nobody.
I mean, he's a speaker.
He's no different than CornelWest.
So what's the chick we wastalking about, angela.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Bryant, amanda Sills.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Amanda Sills.
I would never put that crack onthe same level as them.
Brilliant speakers.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Oh no, no, I'm not saying that in that sense.
I'm saying that that's you know.
I guess that's the realm ofwhat you want to put him at.
He's not, he don't need to beput.
I'm not saying he's not onthose people's level, I'm saying
that he's in that and I guess,if you want to say, if that's
space or if that's what you wantto call him, but they're not no
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political figures or anythinglike that man, they're just
speakers.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
They're just speakers .
They're just speakers, yeah,they're just speakers.
But that's what I and I meannow we can put on, put the hat
on, because what happens is whenyou use terms like this
political assassination, youknow, I mean you're putting them
up there with the malcolms andmartins and everybody and
kennedy and everybody like that.
I always look at it like this.
When that kid kid got shot anddied, I told you I was talking
to my brother.
I said let me tell yousomething.
Something's about to come outof this Right and hear me out.
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I've seen on Fox News they wastalking to Kash Patel.
I think Kash Patel is like thehead of Homeland Security or
something like that.
He was the one that startedtalking about that.
We got to start monitoring thisInternet I ain't making this up
, you know.
I mean where he was saying like, well, we got to look at what,
what it was that kind of youknow that he was looking at.
What was he reading, who was hespeaking to?
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You know things like that.
And they were saying like, forinstance, with this kid here, um
, they were saying like he juststarted really getting political
within the last few years andyou know, his pops turned him in
but they were saying that he hetotally disagreed with, with
charlie kirk's um views, which Iwell, you know I mean.
But now it's kind of paintedthat like this is a democrat
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republican issue, like becausehe disagreed with charlie kirk's
views, you know I mean, like,if you don't yeah, I'll tell you
what I don't even like.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
Like you got cats that's folding up because they
went online and said pretty muchwhat we saying.
Like I don't want to, I didn'twant anybody to just die, but on
the same tone, this dude washorrible.
He was a horrible person.
Man, there's people that areonline.
I seen Styles P fold up orsomething like that.
Wasn't it Styles P that had tobe folded up?
Well, no, well.
Well, he tried to dance.
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Well, let's say this.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
He said that they Allegedly, allegedly he had a
song.
I forgot who he had the songwith or whatever, but I think it
was Uncle Murder and somebodyelse.
And in the song, remember, onPay it In Full, when Cameron was
like like yo niggas die everyday b he'll be all right.
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I think that was something inthe song, but he put it in a
social media post at the time,so he claiming it was like bad
timing that he wasn't sayingthat.
For for that he was saying itbecause of the song they had.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Yeah, and yeah, niggas die every day.
B you be all right, Tough right.
It's messed up, man.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
It's messed up, man, but I get it.
I get it.
I mean everybody going to hideit, I like that.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Why do we, why are we expected, as black people, to
have compassion for the peoplethat hate us?
And I understand the religiousaspect of it, I understand what
y'all are going to say aboutthat, but the reality of this
situation is, if you were onfire, this man would not throw
water on you.
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He would actually probablythrow something to make you burn
faster Gasoline.
Yeah yeah, I have no sympathyfor that.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
And I'm going to be honest with you, Jay, I mean
even you know spiritually.
You know what I mean.
We deal with it spiritually and, be honest, that's something
everybody got to come up to, youknow what I mean.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
Yeah, you got to fight with it.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
You got to fight with it.
Man, you got to fight with it.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
That's it, because you'd be like, your natural
instinct is to say, all right,man, he didn't care for us, we
don't care for him.
It's a tough situation.
That guy was man.
I remember I couldn't watch himman.
I couldn't watch this dude man.
That's how horrible it was, man.
There would be times that Iwould be cruising through.
You know, sometimes I like tolisten to stuff like this, just
for information.
You know what I mean.
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Whether it's good or bad, justhear what he's saying, you know.
And a couple of times.
Man, I pulled a dude up.
Man, I had to turn this stuffup.
It's so ignorant.
It was based in no facts.
You know what I mean?
It was just him running hismouth in front of a bunch of
people and I'm sitting there.
They're looking at this dude.
It's like he almost had thatKanye West kind of.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Kanye was telling the truth.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
Well, kanye crazy too , man, but I he was telling the
truth.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
There's something he was playing, had some facts to
it.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
Well, I think, when it comes to a lot of people
right Like with this guy man andI hate to bring it back to this
conversation there's certainthings that he talked about when
he talked about homosexuality Ikind of agree with him.
But there's certain things thathe talked about when he talked
about homosexuality I kind ofagree with him.
But again, like you say, abroken clock is right.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Two, times a day.
You know what?
Speaker 4 (33:40):
I mean I could listen to Kanye and I could say, well,
he makes sense on this aspect.
But then I could also be likeyo, he's a nut man.
He does a lot of weirdo stuff,man, that just takes me out of
my loop man, this is my thing,man, and I see where this is
going.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
It's like I don't agree with the homosexuality and
all that weirdness as well, butI can't side with a group of
people that think that I'm noteven a human.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
I don't side with nothing.
He say you know what I mean.
But again, that's like youbrought up Kanye, and I'm saying
like, yeah, I could listen tocertain things that Kanye say.
I understood when he was sayingyou don't have the answers.
I understood what he was saying.
He was basically saying, likewe, as black people, run the
industry of you know what's coolas far as fashion is concerned.
Somehow he was upset about thefact that he can't get in there
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and make the money that theseother people in fashion are
making.
He just didn't know how toarticulate it, but I got it.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
I understood when he said George Bush hate black
people.
I somewhat agree with that theylet a lot of black people die
down there from HurricaneKatrina.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
I ain't even talking about that, just black people in
general under hisadministration man you know,
just living in the life ofAmerica.
Man, I agree with that.
You know what I mean.
You can tack on many presidentswith that garbage, you know
including, and tap Biden onthere with two in a debate about
the whole transgender thing.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
He said that the guy was basically saying like you
know, the whole man can be awoman if they identify as a
woman, whatever the case is.
He said so if I put onblackface, can I walk around and
say I'm a black man and y'allhave to accept it.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
Like I said, I kind of I didn't say he was right, he
was actually right, but the kidwas like nah, he's like well
then I can accept that You'rejust like.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
I don't want nothing from him Like.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
I can't applaud a fish for swimming, that's
obvious.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
It's common sense.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
But this is the type of people that he's debating.
I mean, anyone can tie thesekids up, man.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Why you think you're doing college tours man.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
And now that we on topic man, why was the HBCUs
getting threatened when they hadnothing?
You know black folk, they hadnothing to do with this, but
they said it was a swattingthing that they was doing.
But why?
Speaker 4 (36:19):
I'm going to tell you , man, that base is crazy man.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
I've seen a group of white people jumping up and down
about white men fight back.
What are these white menfighting back from?
Who's their oppressor?
Speaker 4 (36:34):
Yeah, if they're losing, who's winning?
Who's?
Speaker 3 (36:39):
winning, but this is what's going on.
When they had them white boysdown in Charlottesville, it was
that type of energy.
White men fight back.
We reclaiming this country.
They're taking our jobs.
They're taking our country.
Nigga, y'all are immigrants,y'all not native.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
You know what kills me about most of this stuff.
Most of this stuff is done inplaces where there's no
African-Americans.
Most of these conversations,these rallies are in places
where there's noAfrican-Americans.
It's the same way I feel aboutCass and Harlem.
You standing up on the corner,you know talking big and tough
about white people on the corner.
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Go down to South Dakota, Standdown there in them soapboxes and
get busy out there and see howit works.
You know I kind of don'trespect it.
I don't man, I don't respect it.
If you really want to get, Ihave to give Martin Luther King
and Malcolm X and some of theseguys of that time their respect,
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because these dudes used to bein the trenches.
Man, They'll be in the trenches.
I seen one time when MartinLuther King is in the he's in
the house somewhere in the southand people talking about coming
to kill him and they got allkind of black people on the
porch and all kind of stuff.
It's dark out there.
Lives is on the line.
You know what I mean.
(37:59):
Most of these people that talk,they sitting there, Some of
these white racists, they insome places where you're never
going to see them.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
You got it.
Martin Luther King is kind ofthe world-renowned or at least
American-renowned peace personfor black people.
Nobody got nothing bad to sayabout Martin Luther King.
Yeah, they do.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
But you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Charlie, did he have something bad to say about
Martin?
Like, come on, this guy was apiece of trash, his idea was a
piece of trash, his idea was apiece of trash.
The only thing that I agreewith is that you shouldn't be
able to say, hey, I identify asa whatever and be able to, and
people got to recognize it?
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Here's the question that's on everybody lips right
now.
Y'all think Trump lined him up.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
I honestly thought when he got hit, man, I thought
maybe.
I said, man, they're going toput a black person on this and
it's about to get popping.
I really thought that.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
I look at it as a distraction.
I don't know what they'redistracting us from, but that's
a big distraction.
Something's about to go down,if it ain't already went down in
the shadows and we don't knowabout it.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
Or you'll.
You'll see very soon some sortof legislation passed that was
all slick and crazy.
That you know will change.
You know the course of time.
Something was going to change,man, but uh, that's what I think
.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
When Rahm Emanuel was in um and it was in I believe
it was I and it was in, Ibelieve it was I want to say,
obama's administration, if I'mcorrect and um, he ended up
being like the mayor of chicago.
We had something that happenedand he said that no good tragedy
should.
It was like, basically, likesomething comes out of every
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tragedy, you know, I mean likelike laws to change.
Like, for instance, you haveseptember 11th.
You wouldn't have homelandsecurity if them towers didn't
drop.
You know, I mean, you wouldn'thave cameras everywhere.
So there's like things thatthey want to implement, but
certain things have to happenbefore we can implement it so
that you'll buy into it.
So, when september 11th happened, you was cool with giving up
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your freedoms as long as youwere safe, you know, I mean.
And so when I say that now itgoes back to what I told y'all
earlier man, with this kidgetting, getting getting shot,
something's going to come out ofit where they're going to
invoke some type of law orsomething with these.
I don't know, I don't know howit's going to work, but I'm
looking at the way that theypushing them and propping them
(40:30):
up to be this big figure and bigleader because they know they
want to say well, charlie'sthing is not going to be in vain
.
His wife said today I think shespoke out today or yesterday
night or something like thatsaying like don't think that his
fight ain't gonna stop, likewe're gonna keep.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
We're gonna keep this pushing and it's not something
like that about the.
She said something crazy likethey unleashed.
They're something.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Yeah, like something real aggressive.
You know what I mean, and sothat's what I'm getting at man,
it's like I think things aregoing to change.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
But this is the problem, because if they were
black and they was talkingaggressive, they would get
bombed yeah man.
But these white people areallowed to run around, make
threats, talk aggressively withhate speech and nothing happens.
Speaker 4 (41:22):
They are, they are celebrated you know it's funny
just to say that, man, because Iwas just looking at something
it was talking about how youknow, when it comes to black
people, especially the whitemoderate in this country that
believe like so-called they'rerighteous and they're with black
people and everything like thatwhen it comes to black people
fighting for what they believein, you know it's always saying
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like, don't be violent, you knowit's going to come, you just
got to take time and all thisother stuff like that.
But when them towers fall,let's kill everything in Iraq.
This kid gets shot here andwhat's the name?
Let's go out here and take someheads, but black people getting
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killed all the time by thepolice you know what I mean All
the time by the police.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
And I'm glad you said that, because he got shot in
Utah.
Not one single military member,but we're talking to
non-violent yeah, you know whathappened after this guy, after
he got shot you didn't put noNational Guard out there, you
didn't put no military presenceout there.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
He said we're going to Memphis.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
We're going to Memphis.
I'm listening to the mayor fromMemphis.
Why are you coming here?
Why?
You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
Yeah, I wanted a manhunt.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
Yeah, when this kid was on the run, I'm like why you
didn't divert all those federalresources to finding the guy's
shooter.
No, we're going to send him toMemphis.
Man, I want the dogs Everything, and I'm here to tell you too
man, if it just so happened thatTrump had got shot and killed
when he got shot, they wouldhave done the same thing for him
(43:05):
.
They would have put him up onthis.
You know, big pedestal.
Speaker 4 (43:09):
Oh, he would be Ronald Reagan.
He'd be, bigger than Reagan.
Speaker 3 (43:15):
That's basically what they're doing right now.
Speaker 4 (43:18):
By the time he finishes his term, he will be
considered the best whitepresident that ever came across.
This whole thing, I'm tellingyou.
I'm telling you, man, they lookat him as some sort of deity or
something like that, somedivine being or something like
that, it's really ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
And all of these something like that man, it's
really ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (43:36):
And all of these people are evil man,
Disgustingly evil man.
When you hear that talk andstuff like that and I hate to
hear Black people promote thisfoolishness.
Man, you got Black people downthere.
You got Black people going downin Washington DC talking about
how happy they are that this catgot the army patrolling, you
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know, the inner city and allkinds of other stuff.
Wait till you tell you to go inyour house at 9 o'clock, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (44:08):
what about 6.30?
Everybody inside?
Speaker 2 (44:12):
what about you got to show a card to show that you
belong here?
Speaker 3 (44:16):
Or to be able to leave.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
You know what I mean.
Before we wrap up, man.
Speaker 4 (44:21):
Then they said they just reopened Stop and Frisk, or
something like that too.
I don't think they ever left.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
But I'm going to leave you out with this one.
This is Amanda Seale's reaction.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
I'm not laughing.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
She went in man, this is bogged out.
But listen, this is wild.
Speaker 5 (44:40):
You know, maybe I'm just so calloused by how many
actual leaders and good peoplehave been assassinated by
state-sanctioned violence forthe many years that we have been
on this earth that I just can'trelate to y'all who are like
well, you know, you don't haveto agree with the way someone
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lives to not agree with thembeing murdered.
Yeah, I do.
Yeah, I do, because, especiallyif their extermination was
literally done in the exactcontext within which they said
others should die, they had noproblem with other lives being
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taken by gun violence.
None, and so I do.
I do have to agree with how youlive in order to care about how
you died.
I don't know why you don't yeah.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
Shout out to the system.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
That is a radical view.
That is a radical view, man.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
I don't think it's that radical.
I think it's more realistic.
Speaker 4 (45:59):
Yeah, I don't, even if you're.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
Why are we running around here caring about people
that don't care about us?
Speaker 4 (46:04):
Yeah, even if you're a righteous person, it would be
unrealistic.
You know what I mean.
Like, unless you just havetotally gotten to that point in
your religious stand.
You know to say that, you knowlike it's hard to feel
compassion for that person.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
I guess, if you're looking at it, even historically
, man look at it from thatstandpoint.
Speaker 4 (46:21):
I'm not talking, no, big talk.
I'm not saying I've got to getbetter in my righteous stand,
because when I see him I'm likeman.
He was such a horribleindividual man, you know.
I didn't really then feel thatbad, you know, but I know
righteously I'm supposed to belike nah, I don't want nobody to
just get killed.
That's my religious belief.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
It's more shocking than anything just to see him.
Normally you see something likethat and they would just take
it off the internet or scrub itor something.
That thing was everywhere, man,to the point where it was like
kids had access to this video.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
You know what I mean.
I wonder if it was a black manwho said that he felt threatened
by Charlie and shot him, wouldthey arrest him?
Speaker 2 (47:00):
They'd arrest him, you and everybody else.
Oh no, he'd have been dead.
Speaker 3 (47:03):
Exactly.
I have no remorse for thatwhite man.
Good riddance, in the words ofmy man, samuel L Jackson hell,
you ain't deserve to die, and Ihope you burn your head what he
was just totally blacked out andthe dude is a.
Speaker 4 (47:29):
He was a horrible individual man.
It's hard to overlook some ofthe things that man said, man,
and again the way he wasspeaking.
I know what he wanted for us,you know.
I mean and that's the hard partabout having any kind of you
know feeling for him man, youknow he wanted, he almost like
he wanted us back in chains orsomething well, I'm gonna leave.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
I'm gonna leave you with this and I we had this
conversation right before.
You know we're gonna're goingto wrap up, but I was just
thinking, like watching this kid, like what would happen if he
was able to get old.
You know what I mean.
He's not a political figure yet, or what would have not been
one.
Speaker 4 (48:09):
He would have been a remarkable racist.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
I honestly believe like they would have.
I honestly believe if he hadlived, they would have lined him
up for some JD Vance.
Speaker 4 (48:19):
It would have been like the Strom Thurmond.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
Him and JD Vance or something running for president.
Speaker 3 (48:26):
I would have seen a lot of propaganda on that that
he would have turned 33 in, Iguess 2028 or something.
Yeah, yeah, whenever the nextelection is.
They would have lined him up.
Yeah, yeah, whenever the nextelection is.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
They would have lined him up.
Speaker 3 (48:37):
Yeah, he would have been able to run for president
and all that nonsense.
Well, I think it's propaganda.
Speaker 4 (48:42):
He ain't going to do it.
No, yeah, he ain't doing it.
Yeah, he's gone.
Speaker 2 (48:45):
But the dangerous thing is the person that's going
to pick up that ball after himand be a little bit more radical
with it.
Speaker 3 (48:57):
You know what I mean he was, he was classic.
Speaker 4 (48:58):
Yeah, I really hope that he gets shot by a white man
too.
He was.
He was a classic.
You know how hard it is.
You know, like if somebody cameto me right now and said,
listen, man, we want you to sellum, you know something, that
was just like a complete hustle.
You know, in my righteous mindyou know they said we want you
to sell something to people andwe know it's going to hurt them
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down the line, you know how hardit'd be for me to keep a
straight face and sell it to you.
You know what I mean.
It would be hard.
If you're a righteous person,call yourself a Christian.
You're a righteous person.
What was dangerous about him isthat when you looked at him
while he was talking to you,it's like man, he believes this.
Speaker 3 (49:38):
He believes what he's saying, and his wife too.
She's the dangerous one.
Speaker 2 (49:44):
Yeah, I've seen she was at a conference.
Yeah, I said at a conferenceand I'm like yeah.
Speaker 3 (49:52):
He was mandoled.
You want to take some ads withit?
Speaker 2 (49:57):
That was a different look on her face.
Speaker 3 (49:59):
Like what.
Speaker 4 (50:02):
She look like she's going to kill all the niggas At
least the beast or somethinglike that man.
Speaker 2 (50:06):
But I mean, let's be clear Again, a black man did not
pull that trigger.
Speaker 3 (50:12):
Who are you mad at.
You know what I mean?
In their mind, it's the niggaphone.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
Yeah, listen, that black man did not pull that
trigger.
If he did, that brother upthere in North Carolina that
gave it to that Ukrainian lady,that was horrible.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (50:29):
He is sick, something's going on with him.
Yeah, he needs to be put underthe the jail and I hope they do
that.
Speaker 2 (50:36):
Yeah, please, that was horrible.
Speaker 3 (50:39):
The crazy stuff, bro, it was wild.
Speaker 2 (50:45):
That was sick.
That woman didn't deserve it.
I'm like what?
Speaker 3 (50:48):
Now that type of stuff.
I don't condone that you know,what I'm saying Throw that
brother under the jail.
I don't want him in the street.
You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 4 (50:54):
Like throw that brother under the jail.
Yeah, you don't represent him.
Yeah, man, I don't want him inthe street.
You know what I mean.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (50:58):
He's definitely not.
Speaker 4 (51:00):
That could have easily been somebody's wife or
you know anybody's other than mywife, mother, grandmother,
whatever.
You know what I mean.
He was a sick individual.
Speaker 2 (51:09):
You know, I guess this kind of overshadowed that
because they don't even talkabout that case too much.
Speaker 4 (51:13):
It's a perfect example of what I'm talking
about.
Some people need to be in jail.
Speaker 2 (51:16):
Oh yeah, absolutely, Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (51:18):
Some people need to be in jail, man, I don't
understand, you know, and this,is you know, I've watched, you
know in jail.
Speaker 3 (51:35):
This is my thing for that man and I agree he needs to
go under the jail.
But thinking about it I startto have compassion because I
believe that man might be sickIn order to brutalize somebody
like that on a public bus.
There has to be something wrongwith him.
He should have a real psychevaluation to see what's really
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going on with him.
Speaker 2 (51:57):
I'll save him some time and money.
Speaker 3 (51:58):
You're just crazy.
Speaker 4 (52:00):
What you being condescending Very much so.
What you know.
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
It's funny to say that because Hold on, shout out
to the condescending natureright now.
Don't say we didn't pick up onthat, brother.
Speaker 4 (52:13):
Well, you know, that's what happens when they
kill us.
You know what I mean.
When they kill black peopleThey'll say well, somebody needs
to understand why he went andshot the church up, man.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (52:24):
Yeah, Something is wrong.
Like we got to get to thebottom of that.
He was brutalized as a child.
Speaker 2 (52:32):
And that's why I say they start changing them laws.
Man, they're going to say it'sa mental health crisis.
Speaker 3 (52:40):
He grew up in an impoverished systems,
impoverished neighborhood.
Never got no love from hisparents.
Probably was adopted.
Yeah, something's wrong.
Let's give him some help.
He'll be out in 10 years.
Speaker 4 (52:53):
That's sick man.
Speaker 3 (52:56):
Guess who we won't see in 10 years, charlie.
Speaker 2 (52:59):
That's messed up, but I will say this, I will say
this.
But you know, when he said that, right, remember he was talking
and he was saying about well,the black men are not in the
homes, or whatever the case is.
I'm just going to leave y'allwith this folks, that shooter
was turned in by his father, Allright, he was home, obviously.
(53:25):
All right.
The Only One Mike podcast,that's his dad.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's acitizen.
Speaker 3 (53:31):
I don't believe in citizens.
Speaker 2 (53:43):
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Brothers, you, the audience.
We encourage you, please, tospeak the truth quietly and
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because they too have theirstory to tell.
So until next time, please keepin mind we never had to run
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Peace, peace.
Do you know how many mass shooters there have been in
America over the last 10 years,counting or not counting gang
violence, great Brothers andsisters?
Why, god?
There's one light.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
There's one light.
There's one light.
Give me a moment, would you,friend?
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We had some stuff planned, butthen Charlie Kirk got shot, so
now we got to talk about that.
All right, fellas, let's justjump right into it.
Man, Y'all heard the intro.
Everybody's seen the video.
This was a story that's prettymuch been pumping the whole week
.
They've shown this video fromevery angle possible and people
(01:04):
know how that story ended.
So I'm like, look, we gottajump on here and talk about this
.
Charlie kirk, the conservativeactivist and founder of turning
point usa, was speaking at anevent the america comeback tour
as part of his on-campusspeaking engagements at utah
valley university, and the eventwas outdoors, under a tent.
(01:26):
Kirk was interacting with theaudience, including a student,
discussing topics including massshootings, and this is around
the time he got shot 12.23 pm,local time, a single shot was
fired, hitting Kirk in the neck.
He was transported to TempagosRegional Hospital, but later
died from his wounds.
Now, fellas, everybody know thehistory of Charlie Kirk.
(01:50):
All right, Charlie Kirk hassaid some very outrageous things
and I'm going to just prefacethis by saying look man, I'm no
fan of no man gettingassassinated, I'm sorry, in his
case, shot in front of theirfamily.
You know the man had two youngkids and all All that aside, not
, you know, jumping on the wagon, like you know, farting on why
(02:14):
he dead.
But listen, the guy did saysome really outrageous and
outlandish and inflammatorystuff towards African-Americans
and minorities and America, andhey.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Jay, I was taught a long time ago, man, not to say
nothing about the dead.
And you know, I thought tomyself like is there anything in
the scriptures that say thatyou can't speak?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
bad about the dead, I know that.
But what I do know is the deadknow nothing.
So yeah, what I say is we'respeaking on his history, not
speaking ill against him becausehe did these things.
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Yeah, I mean he was a wicked individual man, like his
speech was very dangerous man,like you know what I mean.
Like it's different from astone-cold racist to that
moderate slick racist talk man,yeah yeah, but I don't even
think his his, his talk wasslick.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
He said that he wanted executions to be done
publicly yes, yes, he did hesaid he got a public execution.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
So no, when I, when I say slick, I mean like you know
, a regular racist will justtell you like I'm outright
racist, I hate blacks, I hateJews, I hate Hispanics, all that
other stuff like that, and theystick on that.
His message was like, if Ilisten to his message, common
sense would tell me he's aracist.
But he's also saying in thebackground no, I'm not really
(03:40):
racist, I'm a Christian, allthis other bull crap or whatever
.
You know what I mean.
But I'm saying really racist,I'm a Christian, all this other
bull crap or whatever case maybe.
You know what I mean.
I'm saying he's more dangerousthan a hardcore racist Sometimes
.
You know, we had thisconversation about the whole
thing about white moderates.
You know what I mean Whereasthey look at themselves like
these righteous people you knowwhat I mean and I think a lot of
(04:01):
people that go to his rallies,I think in some ways they
believe they are Christian.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Well, and it's because, you know, if you look
at a lot of Charlie Kirk's, youknow videos, he's speaking the
good talk, you know it's like.
It's like that forked tongue,you know.
I mean he's quoting a Bible.
He's quoting a Bible and he'ssaying things that a lot of um
in this case christianchristians, conservatives like
to hear.
So like, for instance, I'mlooking at a news report where,
(04:29):
where they were actually, youknow, doing like a memorial for
him, um, and so in the memorial,they, you know these people and
this is out in california, bythe way and these people are
saying, well, you know, charliewas such a good man and they
interviewing different people tomy, how he was a good man and
he was disgusting.
But then they go to this littlegirl and you know what the
little girl said.
I like and this little girlcan't be no more about maybe six
(04:52):
or seven years old he talkedabout jesus a lot and and it's
like, but the thing is is thathe talked about jesus a lot, but
in that split he also said veryinflammatory things about black
people.
He blamed.
The man's last words were aboutto blame black people for
shootings in America.
(05:12):
You know what I mean.
So I mean, if you really, ifyou really look at it, and when
I say, when I say black folks,I'm not trying to say as a black
man, every black person is inthe game.
But the dog whistle to whiteconservative America is when you
say gang urban.
You know things of that naturethey're talking about black
folks.
You know, what I mean.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Go ahead, jay.
It's really obvious the thingsthat he was saying is
inflammatory and right out, flatout racist.
The fact that we have to againbe held to a different standard
than everybody else, where theykill, maim, destroy our people,
whole families, whole bloodlines, they don't have no remorse for
(05:58):
it, but one of them get killedby one of them and we supposed
to be seared and be all kumbaya.
I'm not with it.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
You know, like I said , I don't.
I for one, personally, I don'twant to see anybody get murdered
.
I don't, you know I mean.
But at the end of the day, likeI said, man it's, it's this, a
self-inflicted thing is.
You did his the his thing,radicalized this kid to do what
he did.
You know, this kid is 22 yearsold can I say something to be
honest?
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Don't get me wrong, god knows man.
On my righteous side I believethat nobody should get killed.
But I'm not going to lie.
Initially when he got shot Ithought to myself I didn't think
it was good, but I was likehe's a messed up individual.
You know, what I mean and don'tget me wrong.
I'm not trying to promote this.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
I'm not trying to say it's cool, good belly laugh.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
I know, righteously, it's wrong.
I gotta pray against myself,man, because I was like man,
this dude, he says the thingsthat he said.
I believe and I'm telling youright now, and this is what I've
been seeing since Trump got inoffice, man, these guys are
saying stuff that are likepoking the bed, man, you know
what I mean.
They're trying to start a racewar here in America, almost
(07:17):
that's what I see when.
I see them man.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I would think, yeah, that's definitely it.
I would think, yeah, that'sdefinitely it.
But in this particular case, Ithink that they're going to
invoke some type of law likeKirk's Law or something like
that, and somehow they're goingto regulate this internet.
Because, if you notice, most ofthese mad shooters are like
20-something-year-old white guys.
Let's just be for real.
You know what I mean From LuigiMangione, which he wasn't a mad
(07:41):
shooter, he just murderedsomebody.
But you know what I mean FromLuigi Maggioni, which he wasn't
a mad shooter, he just murderedsomebody.
But you know what I mean?
All of these guys.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
And this guy just killed somebody and, truth be
told, by their whole doctrine heprobably did radicalize
somebody, if that's real.
But again, in my personalopinion, I don't even believe
that.
But here's the funny part,because if that's the case case
why they grabbed that little fatold white man they didn't have
no gun talking about oh, we gotto shoot it oh, because it's
(08:10):
called a distraction brotherwell, that's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm saying.
There's no way in the world, uh, a brother or anybody can't
shoot somebody in broad daylightand run, toss the gun and get
away all All right, I'm going todo this real quick.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
I'm going to do this real quick because let's give
the people some context on howthis kid pulled us off right.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Well, hold on.
Let me answer this man, Becauseyou said something about
regulating the internet.
Yeah, they do regulate it.
They regulate it on us.
And don't get me wrong, I'm nota fan of Farrakhan.
But and don't get me wrong, I'mnot a fan of Farrakhan, but you
can't get a speech on.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Farrakhan, the Nation of Islam can't do nothing on it
.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Well, the reason why I say, this and before I get
into the whole they block racistblack people you know what I
mean?
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
They allow racist white people to speak all they
want.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
You know what I mean, and I'm not saying that I agree
with either, or I don't thinkblack people can be racist, but
I'm not sure.
Topic for another show.
You know we always disagreewith stuff over there.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
but yeah, but like I was going to say, is that you
know before I get into thecontext of this kid and how he
pulled this off when I sayregulate the internet, all right
, we can get on the internet asblack folk and we can scroll
through Facebook and X orTwitter whatever you want to
call it some parts of YouTube,and we can watch ourselves as
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black folk beat the dog crap outof old people, kids fighting
themselves videotaping it andthese are girls in the community
beating each other up.
Nobody regulates this stuff now.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
It is regulated or even just being killed by the
police.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
People getting killed and the reason why I say that
is stuff now, uh, that's whatI'm saying, but listen, it is
regulated, but listen, but no,it's not just being killed by
the police people getting killed, and the reason why I say that
is I don't know how much anybodyis on on twitter or whatever,
but I do know this if you scrollthrough twitter, you see
everything from from sex toviolence and and hear me out,
though, the reason why I saythat internet regulation is
different is because whatthey're going to do is, if it's
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us all, right, man, let them goahead and poison their mind, but
when this young white kid getsradicalized, or whatever they
want to call it, from watchingtoo many videos of Charlie Kirk
and everybody like that, orwhoever you're watching, maybe
some Palestine stuff, whateverthey're going to say, man,
that's a mental health crisisstuff.
Whatever they're going to say,oh, man, that's a mental health
crisis Because that kid now isnot.
You know, he's been corrupted,as opposed to.
(10:28):
We just watched that from weCrazy.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
But that's what I'm saying.
It is regulated.
You can do anything that youwant against black people.
You know what I mean.
He was radical, that white boy,and I'm assuming I don't know
his complete ideology or why hedid what he did or whatever the
case may be, but if you want to,you know, take a look at it.
If anybody was radicalized, hewas radicalized by Chuck himself
.
You know what I mean.
(10:51):
Probably just watching thevideos and got ticked off.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
So listen to this.
They said that this is allalleged according to the
investigation.
Again, I'm getting to the.
In fact, let's just do it allin one shot.
All right, no pun intendedintended, y'all but the um.
They said the shot came fromrooftop of the lou lou center.
Lou center, approximately 200yards, and later revised to
about 140 to 142 yards, fromwhere kirk was speaking.
(11:16):
The weapon was a beast.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Yeah, yeah, he pulled that one off the weapon was a
military, being a military, myperson, person myself, man, you
know.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
That's good ways, man , but this is a kid, I don't
believe was in the military,which is something.
But that's another thing to say, Like where did he get this
training from?
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Yeah, so we won't get into that in a second.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
I've seen videos.
They said that that was an easyshot.
Anybody that's been in themilitary could have pulled that
off, and he was military trainedbecause he shot the nigga in
the neck and not in the face.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
But there's no record of him being in the military.
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
I don't know if he was there or not.
You're right, with an M16, youpretty much can't hit anybody.
That's why I was surprised hedidn't hit Trump.
I thought that was somebullcrap.
But you're right, you prettymuch should be able to hit
anybody from that range.
But I'm saying that for aregular civilian, from what I
understand, to just grab thatkind of weapon and go to work
(12:15):
with it, that was amazing.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and so what he did was Maybe the
wrong choice of words, but yeah,we refer to him as the kid.
It's actually Tyler JamesRobinson.
Let's go ahead and put that outthere.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
And so they said how come all you tutors always have
three names?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Tyler James Robinson.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
I mean technically, we all got three.
No, no, no, the third name wasTyler James.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
But Robinson isn't actually a first name.
I guess you can't have Robinson.
I'm just saying they got threenames.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
You got John Wilkes Booth.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
James Earl Ray.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Yeah, allegedly James Earl Ray.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Allegedly.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
He didn't shoot one of the kids.
They always got three names,but if Pookie gets shot it's
just man.
Man from 26th Street did it.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Sprinkle some coke on him.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Put the dope in his pocket.
It said the weapon was ahigh-powered bolt.
It said the weapon was ahigh-powered bolt action rifle,
specifically .30 to .06bolt-action.
I mean, for all of y'all thatknow, you know, and it was a
Mauser type.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
What'd you say?
Say it again what was the?
Speaker 2 (13:34):
weapon.
It was a high-poweredbolt-action rifle, reportedly a
Mauser Am I pronouncing thatright Mauser?
It said it was found laid in awooded area wrapped in a towel,
consistent with messagingsuggesting that the weapon would
be disposed.
Now it said the bullet caseswere unfired and unfired bullets
(13:56):
were found engraved withprovocative messages, including
examples.
It said notice bulges, o-w-o.
I don't know what that is.
It said one says hey, fascist,catch and O, bella Chao, which
is reference to an anti-fascistsong, bella Chao.
And if you read this you aregay.
(14:16):
And this is this is what I saidwas on the on on the bullets.
It said digital evidence includediscord messages from some
roommate discussing retrieving arifle from a drop point,
wrapping it in a towel and gravebullets, he said.
And it said that the suspect,tyler james romison, 22 years
old, was from washington, utah,and he was actually from the
(14:38):
area.
So, and I don't know if y'allseen the press conference with
the um, I don't know if that'sthe police chief of ut, utah and
he was saying that if somethinglike this happened, that they
was hoping that it would besomebody from outside of the
state that came in and first ofall, who makes a statement
saying if this happens, I hopeit ain't somebody from I mean we
(14:58):
as folks.
Sometime when you hear a crime,you be like man, is he black?
You know that's different, butit's like yo, somebody gonna
shoot up a spot, shoot up yourcollege.
I'm hoping he's not from here.
When you just say I hope nobodydo it.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
I'm a conspiracy theorist.
I thought they was trying tostart the race war.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
I thought he was gonna pin it on somebody black
If he didn't then nothinghappened.
You know what's funny to me?
Well, not funny, but it's kindof ironic that the Trump
administration has pushed outall the so-called woke people
out of the colleges so theycan't speak or they would take
their funding, and they'reallowing these type of people to
come and inseminate thechildren or the young adults.
(15:40):
The next brightest minds comingup with this nonsense that
Charlie Kirk and people of hisilk, and that's crazy.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
The sad part about it is he wasn't that smart.
Well, that's the thing he wasn'tthat smart it was amazing to me
that a lot of people that youknow, especially the Black
people that he had up there,like it seemed like he was
dog-walking them in aconversation.
I was like I'll just ask themsimply like a question I asked
you earlier.
Let me ask you a question whatis the?
What was it DEI?
What is it for?
(16:13):
What is affirmative action for?
Why did they bring these thingsinto place?
You know what I mean?
Because the reason why theybrought them into place is
because they recognized thatthere was a problem.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
The crazy part about it is that his response to you
would be to take away jobs fromwhite men.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
And that's exactly the response he gave when he
asked that question.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
But again, that right there is ignorant because we
can actually sit and Google.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
You can right now go on the chat, but right now, not
to interrupt your wisdom, butright now it's like everything
that that side does is just pureignorance and it's like no
matter if they know that it'sincorrect or not.
They still spit it in theirbases, believing it.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
I'm glad you said that Before y'all get—go ahead,
man, I ain't going to interruptyou.
No, I said.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
I believe that to be right, but still in the midst
of—if I'm going to go somewhereto debate somebody, I'm going to
still tell you the truth.
The problem is that when hegoes in these debates and the
ones that I've seen it almostseems like he's actually
intelligent, like he's walkingoff with a victory in the debate
.
You know what I?
Mean and it's impossible tobeat this debate because I'm
(17:16):
sitting there looking at himlike who are you to talk?
He's actually from a sundowntown.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
In Illinois, that part of Illinois, no, don't
surprise me From a sundown townin Illinois.
You are from a place whereasyou know the history of it, you
know has some foolishnessattached to it.
So how do you, you know, how doyou get to be some sort of
aficionado in?
Speaker 2 (17:39):
these topics.
And this is the thing, and thisis the thing is that I think
the whole bag with this dude ishe's sent to these college
campuses and his whole thingwith that turning point is you
know, almost change your mind.
You know what I mean.
Who do you change the mind of?
Kids who are about 18, 19, 20years old?
Don't know no better.
(17:59):
Get all the information off theInternet.
If this man could sit here andtell you.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Especially children that haven't been around.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
A bunch of different cultures, right it's equally
influenced their mind with hatebecause they don't know the
other side, no, no, other side.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
But that's what I'm saying, man.
That's the difference in themand that's what makes him so
dangerous.
That's why I didn't even likewhat he was giving out, because
I don't.
I I mean, obviously I don'tlike it, but he's so dangerous
because he's giving it to him ina lollipop.
It's so sweet, it ain't thatregular.
You know, put a clan's head onyour joint and just go out there
.
Although we who are intelligent, or not even intelligent, just
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black people know all the thingsyou're doing is in code.
It's just coded information forracism.
You know what?
Speaker 2 (18:42):
I mean, it's brothers in the hood that could have
tied Charlie Kirk up.
But what happens is that he,from my standpoint of seeing
things and if I didn't seeanything different then let me
know.
In the comments I haven't seenhim debated anybody of worthy
note from the black community.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
None of them.
Nobody was worthy enough,nobody.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
It's almost like they must have, you know, screened
everybody that wanted to talk,or they might have planted them,
it's something you said, toyour credit too, is that he
never took that mess to an HBCU.
You know what I mean.
He tore the places where heknew those were easy wins, you
know what I mean.
So it's like if you were reallyup there in terms of your
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information, you could haveeasily sat down.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Some people are status, some intelligent people.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Some intelligent people For him and people like
him.
Their job is not to reallydebate.
Their job is to spread the word.
And spread propaganda.
If they get debated, they getcrushed.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Right.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
If they really debated they get crushed.
But they can go to these kidsin low-income places and talk
all this nonsense and mask it inreligion and they can be
believed.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Right yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
That's what I'm saying.
That's what makes themdangerous.
Man, like you just said.
The little girl said he talkedabout Jesus a lot Like to make
him seem—everybody talk aboutJesus ain't good.
You know what I mean.
Everybody talk about Jesusain't good.
You know what I mean.
Everybody talk about Jesusain't good.
They don't have no good.
They don't know nothing aboutyou.
He obviously didn't knownothing about Jesus.
If you're talking, what are youtalking?
Speaker 2 (20:23):
The devil know a lot about Jesus.
You know what I mean and that'swhat it is.
You came out there.
It's sad the way that they kindof putting this kid in this
light, like he's this huge model.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
And they have pictures online with him.
With Martin Luther King, yes,and.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Malcolm X Malcolm.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
X Martin Luther King.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
John F Kennedy.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
He said that George Floyd wasn't murdered because of
the police.
He was murdered because of adrug overdose.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Did you see the?
Speaker 2 (20:52):
brother.
He was one of the first peoplethat was promoting that murder
because of a drug overdose.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Did you see the brother?
He's been one of the firstpeople that was promoting that.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Did you see the brother say we don't know if
Charlie Kirk died from a gunshotwound because he might have
fentanyl in his system orsomething?
Speaker 3 (21:08):
I had a whole another joke about the public execution
because he said he wanted Coketo sponsor it.
Now what?
I think?
Would be funny what I thinkwould be real funny is because
we just had the public execution.
What if somebody clipped RayCharles in there and told him
you got the right one, baby.
Uh-huh, that would be hilarious.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
That's stupid Silly man, I want to do this real
quick man because for all thepeople out there that claims
that you know Charlie Kirk wasthis, like you know dude said
the Civil Rights Act was a hugemistake almost something like a
mess to white people.
I mean, I hate to say it likethat, but I want y'all to take a
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quick listen it's important toget out all of this.
Let's get it out, because I'm aright now.
I want y'all to react to thisman.
Whenever you listen to thewhole thing, this is your hero,
folks.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
If I see a black pilot, I'm going to be like boy.
I hope he's qualified.
When blacks in America did nothave the same rights they had
today, they were less murderous,there was less break-ins.
Why is that?
And the data shows they wereactually better in the 1940s.
It was bad, it was evil.
But what happens?
A certain skin color now getstheir own summertime celebration
.
Oh wow, look how far blackshave come.
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It has now become a racialcomplaining day.
Remember what BLM stands forBurn, loot and murder.
Yeah, dei stands for it.
I'm going to be big and earn it, just so we're clear.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
Can we also acknowledge, due to the laws
under Jim Crow, that Blackpeople were?
Speaker 1 (22:42):
significantly hindered from economic
advancement.
This is a really importantquestion.
The data shows not really.
Black Americans are poorertoday, in 2024, than they were
in the 1950s.
The disappearance of the Blackfather has been the number one
driver of black poverty in thiscountry.
At least agree that black dadsnot being around is a bad thing.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Anyone's father not being around is a bad thing.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Starting in the 1980s and continuing onward, there's
been a war on drugs.
Is this correct?
I like the war on drugs.
Blacks commit more crimes thanwhites do.
They commit more murders, theycommit more arsons, they commit
more kidnappings.
That's not a war on drugs,that's a culture problem.
Why are so many blackscommitting murders outside of
their population?
So we've spent $20 trillion onuplifting black communities $20
trillion and black Americans arepoor.
We've spent subsidized housing,medicaid, public schooling,
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subsidized college.
We're talking about $20trillion spent on a great
society, and yet black Americais poorer, more murderous, more
dangerous.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
What does equity mean ?
It means taking from otherpeople.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
So what's your thoughts about that?
I don't even know where tobegin, man.
The only thing that he said wasright was that the loss of the
Black father is part of thebiggest impact on the Black
family.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
The loss of any father.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
He doesn't talk about how the laws that were enacted
to take away the black fatheryou know what I'm saying?
How they incentivize the blackmother to keep the black father
out the household.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
The dude totally dismisses the whole thought of
systemic racism.
You know what I mean.
He totally dismisses the wholethought of why these things
became the way that they are.
You know what I mean.
It totally dismisses the wholethought of why these things
became the way that they are.
You know what I mean.
It's not like you know peoplejust woke up one morning and
decided to walk away from theirchildren.
You don't talk about how thewelfare system, you know, forced
Black fathers to.
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You know, at one point oranother used to have to hide in
the house.
You know what I mean.
Or if somebody in the apartmentcomplex told their social
worker that there was a manliving there, then they had to
get them out of the house andall kinds of stuff like that.
And then we got to take intoconsideration these people who
went into welfare in the 60s.
These are babies andgrandbabies of slaves.
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This is people coming out ofslavery.
This is the reason why thesepeople are in poverty.
You know what I mean.
It ain't like they just choseit.
And again, this is not like howwe came here on our own.
You know what I mean.
We were forced to come here.
We wasn't like everybody hadthis beautiful story about Ellis
Island or anything like thatman, black people were forced to
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come here.
Yeah, I don't really believethat part either, but I'm, I'm,
I'm gonna stick with that.
Well, you know, I mean, we allknow that there's, you know, the
whole morris thing and stuffabout that too, but there was a
lot of black people that wasalso forced to come in.
You know, slavery brought a lot, it's not?
Speaker 3 (25:26):
a what I, what I, what I, what I, what I say is
this right, that's the.
That's the biggest example ofwhite fragility at its finest.
Like this, white man is sittinghere just blaming everything
that's a problem in America onblack people, when there are
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there are more white people inthis country, so there's no way
that black people can becommitting the most murders when
they're not even the most ofthe majority of the population.
Right, come on, man.
But you have these people, awhole group of people that hear
this nonsense and believe it,because one, the education
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system is terrible.
Now, these children are not asintelligent, not as not as
bright or like critic.
They don't have no criticalthinking skills.
So they believe in thisnonsense and they're running
with it Even the joint where hewas talking about.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
You know, we commit more crimes.
It's like that doesn't evenmake logical sense.
Man, I was looking at, I'mlooking at, what Chad GBT right
now says like 59% of you know,white people have like 59% of
all arrest or incarceration.
And it just makes logical sensebecause it's more white people
here, there's more of them, yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
How stupid do you got to be to believe that nonsense?
Right, right, how stupid do yougotta be to believe that
nonsense?
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Right right.
We got whole states wherethere's correctional facilities
and there ain't no black peoplethere.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
The dude said that black people were better off in
the 1940s.
Segregation, Jim Crow, votingrights, job discrimination,
segregated armed forces, GI Billdiscrimination let's go down
Racial violence, policebrutality.
This is the 1940s that we werethriving in.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
In the 1940s, black people were just still
sharecropping.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Restricted housing education inequality.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
It was a regular thing for a group of white
people to march into black townsand take their shit.
So how can we be better off?
Speaker 4 (27:39):
This dude is crazy man, it's disgusting man.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
You know again, I'm not all for anybody just going
out and killing people, but hewas a very, very tough
individual well, the thing is,is that the fact that they prop
him up to the point where, Ibelieve, one place somebody
building a statue for this dude?
Speaker 4 (27:59):
don't ever compare that dude to martin luther king
or malcolm x or malcolm x thatthat's.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
That's what.
That's what makes me upset,because they talk about him
being assassinated.
This nigga got shot.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Somebody said something listen to this too,
brother.
They was like he technicallywas not a political figure, but
yet they paint this as a.
They paint this.
They're painting it as apolitical assassination, but
he's not a political figure.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
He's nobody.
I mean, he's a speaker.
He's no different than CornelWest.
So what's the chick we wastalking about, angela.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Bryant, amanda Sills.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Amanda Sills.
I would never put that crack onthe same level as them.
Brilliant speakers.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Oh no, no, I'm not saying that in that sense.
I'm saying that that's you know.
I guess that's the realm ofwhat you want to put him at.
He's not, he don't need to beput.
I'm not saying he's not onthose people's level, I'm saying
that he's in that and I guess,if you want to say, if that's
space or if that's what you wantto call him, but they're not no
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political figures or anythinglike that man, they're just
speakers.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
They're just speakers .
They're just speakers, yeah,they're just speakers.
But that's what I and I meannow we can put on, put the hat
on, because what happens is whenyou use terms like this
political assassination, youknow, I mean you're putting them
up there with the malcolms andmartins and everybody and
kennedy and everybody like that.
I always look at it like this.
When that kid kid got shot anddied, I told you I was talking
to my brother.
I said let me tell yousomething.
Something's about to come outof this Right and hear me out.
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I've seen on Fox News they wastalking to Kash Patel.
I think Kash Patel is like thehead of Homeland Security or
something like that.
He was the one that startedtalking about that.
We got to start monitoring thisInternet I ain't making this up
, you know.
I mean where he was saying like, well, we got to look at what,
what it was that kind of youknow that he was looking at.
What was he reading, who was hespeaking to?
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You know things like that.
And they were saying like, forinstance, with this kid here, um
, they were saying like he juststarted really getting political
within the last few years andyou know, his pops turned him in
but they were saying that he hetotally disagreed with, with
charlie kirk's um views, which Iwell, you know I mean.
But now it's kind of paintedthat like this is a democrat
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republican issue, like becausehe disagreed with charlie kirk's
views, you know I mean, like,if you don't yeah, I'll tell you
what I don't even like.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
Like you got cats that's folding up because they
went online and said pretty muchwhat we saying.
Like I don't want to, I didn'twant anybody to just die, but on
the same tone, this dude washorrible.
He was a horrible person.
Man, there's people that areonline.
I seen Styles P fold up orsomething like that.
Wasn't it Styles P that had tobe folded up?
Well, no, well.
Well, he tried to dance.
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Well, let's say this.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
He said that they Allegedly, allegedly he had a
song.
I forgot who he had the songwith or whatever, but I think it
was Uncle Murder and somebodyelse.
And in the song, remember, onPay it In Full, when Cameron was
like like yo niggas die everyday b he'll be all right.
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I think that was something inthe song, but he put it in a
social media post at the time,so he claiming it was like bad
timing that he wasn't sayingthat.
For for that he was saying itbecause of the song they had.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Yeah, and yeah, niggas die every day.
B you be all right, Tough right.
It's messed up, man.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
It's messed up, man, but I get it.
I get it.
I mean everybody going to hideit, I like that.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Why do we, why are we expected, as black people, to
have compassion for the peoplethat hate us?
And I understand the religiousaspect of it, I understand what
y'all are going to say aboutthat, but the reality of this
situation is, if you were onfire, this man would not throw
water on you.
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He would actually probablythrow something to make you burn
faster Gasoline.
Yeah yeah, I have no sympathyfor that.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
And I'm going to be honest with you, Jay, I mean
even you know spiritually.
You know what I mean.
We deal with it spiritually and, be honest, that's something
everybody got to come up to, youknow what I mean.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
Yeah, you got to fight with it.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
You got to fight with it.
Man, you got to fight with it.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
That's it, because you'd be like, your natural
instinct is to say, all right,man, he didn't care for us, we
don't care for him.
It's a tough situation.
That guy was man.
I remember I couldn't watch himman.
I couldn't watch this dude man.
That's how horrible it was, man.
There would be times that Iwould be cruising through.
You know, sometimes I like tolisten to stuff like this, just
for information.
You know what I mean.
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Whether it's good or bad, justhear what he's saying, you know.
And a couple of times.
Man, I pulled a dude up.
Man, I had to turn this stuffup.
It's so ignorant.
It was based in no facts.
You know what I mean?
It was just him running hismouth in front of a bunch of
people and I'm sitting there.
They're looking at this dude.
It's like he almost had thatKanye West kind of.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Kanye was telling the truth.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
Well, kanye crazy too , man, but I he was telling the
truth.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
There's something he was playing, had some facts to
it.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
Well, I think, when it comes to a lot of people
right Like with this guy man andI hate to bring it back to this
conversation there's certainthings that he talked about when
he talked about homosexuality Ikind of agree with him.
But there's certain things thathe talked about when he talked
about homosexuality I kind ofagree with him.
But again, like you say, abroken clock is right.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Two, times a day.
You know what?
Speaker 4 (33:40):
I mean I could listen to Kanye and I could say, well,
he makes sense on this aspect.
But then I could also be likeyo, he's a nut man.
He does a lot of weirdo stuff,man, that just takes me out of
my loop man, this is my thing,man, and I see where this is
going.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
It's like I don't agree with the homosexuality and
all that weirdness as well, butI can't side with a group of
people that think that I'm noteven a human.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
I don't side with nothing.
He say you know what I mean.
But again, that's like youbrought up Kanye, and I'm saying
like, yeah, I could listen tocertain things that Kanye say.
I understood when he was sayingyou don't have the answers.
I understood what he was saying.
He was basically saying, likewe, as black people, run the
industry of you know what's coolas far as fashion is concerned.
Somehow he was upset about thefact that he can't get in there
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and make the money that theseother people in fashion are
making.
He just didn't know how toarticulate it, but I got it.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
I understood when he said George Bush hate black
people.
I somewhat agree with that theylet a lot of black people die
down there from HurricaneKatrina.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
I ain't even talking about that, just black people in
general under hisadministration man you know,
just living in the life ofAmerica.
Man, I agree with that.
You know what I mean.
You can tack on many presidentswith that garbage, you know
including, and tap Biden onthere with two in a debate about
the whole transgender thing.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
He said that the guy was basically saying like you
know, the whole man can be awoman if they identify as a
woman, whatever the case is.
He said so if I put onblackface, can I walk around and
say I'm a black man and y'allhave to accept it.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
Like I said, I kind of I didn't say he was right, he
was actually right, but the kidwas like nah, he's like well
then I can accept that You'rejust like.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
I don't want nothing from him Like.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
I can't applaud a fish for swimming, that's
obvious.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
It's common sense.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
But this is the type of people that he's debating.
I mean, anyone can tie thesekids up, man.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Why you think you're doing college tours man.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
And now that we on topic man, why was the HBCUs
getting threatened when they hadnothing?
You know black folk, they hadnothing to do with this, but
they said it was a swattingthing that they was doing.
But why?
Speaker 4 (36:19):
I'm going to tell you , man, that base is crazy man.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
I've seen a group of white people jumping up and down
about white men fight back.
What are these white menfighting back from?
Who's their oppressor?
Speaker 4 (36:34):
Yeah, if they're losing, who's winning?
Who's?
Speaker 3 (36:39):
winning, but this is what's going on.
When they had them white boysdown in Charlottesville, it was
that type of energy.
White men fight back.
We reclaiming this country.
They're taking our jobs.
They're taking our country.
Nigga, y'all are immigrants,y'all not native.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
You know what kills me about most of this stuff.
Most of this stuff is done inplaces where there's no
African-Americans.
Most of these conversations,these rallies are in places
where there's noAfrican-Americans.
It's the same way I feel aboutCass and Harlem.
You standing up on the corner,you know talking big and tough
about white people on the corner.
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Go down to South Dakota, Standdown there in them soapboxes and
get busy out there and see howit works.
You know I kind of don'trespect it.
I don't man, I don't respect it.
If you really want to get, Ihave to give Martin Luther King
and Malcolm X and some of theseguys of that time their respect,
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because these dudes used to bein the trenches.
Man, They'll be in the trenches.
I seen one time when MartinLuther King is in the he's in
the house somewhere in the southand people talking about coming
to kill him and they got allkind of black people on the
porch and all kind of stuff.
It's dark out there.
Lives is on the line.
You know what I mean.
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Most of these people that talk,they sitting there, Some of
these white racists, they insome places where you're never
going to see them.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
You got it.
Martin Luther King is kind ofthe world-renowned or at least
American-renowned peace personfor black people.
Nobody got nothing bad to sayabout Martin Luther King.
Yeah, they do.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
But you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Charlie, did he have something bad to say about
Martin?
Like, come on, this guy was apiece of trash, his idea was a
piece of trash, his idea was apiece of trash.
The only thing that I agreewith is that you shouldn't be
able to say, hey, I identify asa whatever and be able to, and
people got to recognize it?
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Here's the question that's on everybody lips right
now.
Y'all think Trump lined him up.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
I honestly thought when he got hit, man, I thought
maybe.
I said, man, they're going toput a black person on this and
it's about to get popping.
I really thought that.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
I look at it as a distraction.
I don't know what they'redistracting us from, but that's
a big distraction.
Something's about to go down,if it ain't already went down in
the shadows and we don't knowabout it.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
Or you'll.
You'll see very soon some sortof legislation passed that was
all slick and crazy.
That you know will change.
You know the course of time.
Something was going to change,man, but uh, that's what I think
.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
When Rahm Emanuel was in um and it was in I believe
it was I and it was in, Ibelieve it was I want to say,
obama's administration, if I'mcorrect and um, he ended up
being like the mayor of chicago.
We had something that happenedand he said that no good tragedy
should.
It was like, basically, likesomething comes out of every
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tragedy, you know, I mean likelike laws to change.
Like, for instance, you haveseptember 11th.
You wouldn't have homelandsecurity if them towers didn't
drop.
You know, I mean, you wouldn'thave cameras everywhere.
So there's like things thatthey want to implement, but
certain things have to happenbefore we can implement it so
that you'll buy into it.
So, when september 11th happened, you was cool with giving up
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your freedoms as long as youwere safe, you know, I mean.
And so when I say that now itgoes back to what I told y'all
earlier man, with this kidgetting, getting getting shot,
something's going to come out ofit where they're going to
invoke some type of law orsomething with these.
I don't know, I don't know howit's going to work, but I'm
looking at the way that theypushing them and propping them
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up to be this big figure and bigleader because they know they
want to say well, charlie'sthing is not going to be in vain
.
His wife said today I think shespoke out today or yesterday
night or something like thatsaying like don't think that his
fight ain't gonna stop, likewe're gonna keep.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
We're gonna keep this pushing and it's not something
like that about the.
She said something crazy likethey unleashed.
They're something.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Yeah, like something real aggressive.
You know what I mean, and sothat's what I'm getting at man,
it's like I think things aregoing to change.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
But this is the problem, because if they were
black and they was talkingaggressive, they would get
bombed yeah man.
But these white people areallowed to run around, make
threats, talk aggressively withhate speech and nothing happens.
Speaker 4 (41:22):
They are, they are celebrated you know it's funny
just to say that, man, because Iwas just looking at something
it was talking about how youknow, when it comes to black
people, especially the whitemoderate in this country that
believe like so-called they'rerighteous and they're with black
people and everything like thatwhen it comes to black people
fighting for what they believein, you know it's always saying
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like, don't be violent, you knowit's going to come, you just
got to take time and all thisother stuff like that.
But when them towers fall,let's kill everything in Iraq.
This kid gets shot here andwhat's the name?
Let's go out here and take someheads, but black people getting
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killed all the time by thepolice you know what I mean All
the time by the police.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
And I'm glad you said that, because he got shot in
Utah.
Not one single military member,but we're talking to
non-violent yeah, you know whathappened after this guy, after
he got shot you didn't put noNational Guard out there, you
didn't put no military presenceout there.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
He said we're going to Memphis.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
We're going to Memphis.
I'm listening to the mayor fromMemphis.
Why are you coming here?
Why?
You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
Yeah, I wanted a manhunt.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
Yeah, when this kid was on the run, I'm like why you
didn't divert all those federalresources to finding the guy's
shooter.
No, we're going to send him toMemphis.
Man, I want the dogs Everything, and I'm here to tell you too
man, if it just so happened thatTrump had got shot and killed
when he got shot, they wouldhave done the same thing for him
(43:05):
.
They would have put him up onthis.
You know, big pedestal.
Speaker 4 (43:09):
Oh, he would be Ronald Reagan.
He'd be, bigger than Reagan.
Speaker 3 (43:15):
That's basically what they're doing right now.
Speaker 4 (43:18):
By the time he finishes his term, he will be
considered the best whitepresident that ever came across.
This whole thing, I'm tellingyou.
I'm telling you, man, they lookat him as some sort of deity or
something like that, somedivine being or something like
that, it's really ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
And all of these something like that man, it's
really ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (43:36):
And all of these people are evil man,
Disgustingly evil man.
When you hear that talk andstuff like that and I hate to
hear Black people promote thisfoolishness.
Man, you got Black people downthere.
You got Black people going downin Washington DC talking about
how happy they are that this catgot the army patrolling, you
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know, the inner city and allkinds of other stuff.
Wait till you tell you to go inyour house at 9 o'clock, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (44:08):
what about 6.30?
Everybody inside?
Speaker 2 (44:12):
what about you got to show a card to show that you
belong here?
Speaker 3 (44:16):
Or to be able to leave.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
You know what I mean.
Before we wrap up, man.
Speaker 4 (44:21):
Then they said they just reopened Stop and Frisk, or
something like that too.
I don't think they ever left.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
But I'm going to leave you out with this one.
This is Amanda Seale's reaction.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
I'm not laughing.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
She went in man, this is bogged out.
But listen, this is wild.
Speaker 5 (44:40):
You know, maybe I'm just so calloused by how many
actual leaders and good peoplehave been assassinated by
state-sanctioned violence forthe many years that we have been
on this earth that I just can'trelate to y'all who are like
well, you know, you don't haveto agree with the way someone
(45:01):
lives to not agree with thembeing murdered.
Yeah, I do.
Yeah, I do, because, especiallyif their extermination was
literally done in the exactcontext within which they said
others should die, they had noproblem with other lives being
(45:23):
taken by gun violence.
None, and so I do.
I do have to agree with how youlive in order to care about how
you died.
I don't know why you don't yeah.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
Shout out to the system.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
That is a radical view.
That is a radical view, man.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
I don't think it's that radical.
I think it's more realistic.
Speaker 4 (45:59):
Yeah, I don't, even if you're.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
Why are we running around here caring about people
that don't care about us?
Speaker 4 (46:04):
Yeah, even if you're a righteous person, it would be
unrealistic.
You know what I mean.
Like, unless you just havetotally gotten to that point in
your religious stand.
You know to say that, you knowlike it's hard to feel
compassion for that person.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
I guess, if you're looking at it, even historically
, man look at it from thatstandpoint.
Speaker 4 (46:21):
I'm not talking, no, big talk.
I'm not saying I've got to getbetter in my righteous stand,
because when I see him I'm likeman.
He was such a horribleindividual man, you know.
I didn't really then feel thatbad, you know, but I know
righteously I'm supposed to belike nah, I don't want nobody to
just get killed.
That's my religious belief.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
It's more shocking than anything just to see him.
Normally you see something likethat and they would just take
it off the internet or scrub itor something.
That thing was everywhere, man,to the point where it was like
kids had access to this video.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
You know what I mean.
I wonder if it was a black manwho said that he felt threatened
by Charlie and shot him, wouldthey arrest him?
Speaker 2 (47:00):
They'd arrest him, you and everybody else.
Oh no, he'd have been dead.
Speaker 3 (47:03):
Exactly.
I have no remorse for thatwhite man.
Good riddance, in the words ofmy man, samuel L Jackson hell,
you ain't deserve to die, and Ihope you burn your head what he
was just totally blacked out andthe dude is a.
Speaker 4 (47:29):
He was a horrible individual man.
It's hard to overlook some ofthe things that man said, man,
and again the way he wasspeaking.
I know what he wanted for us,you know.
I mean and that's the hard partabout having any kind of you
know feeling for him man, youknow he wanted, he almost like
he wanted us back in chains orsomething well, I'm gonna leave.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
I'm gonna leave you with this and I we had this
conversation right before.
You know we're gonna're goingto wrap up, but I was just
thinking, like watching this kid, like what would happen if he
was able to get old.
You know what I mean.
He's not a political figure yet, or what would have not been
one.
Speaker 4 (48:09):
He would have been a remarkable racist.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
I honestly believe like they would have.
I honestly believe if he hadlived, they would have lined him
up for some JD Vance.
Speaker 4 (48:19):
It would have been like the Strom Thurmond.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
Him and JD Vance or something running for president.
Speaker 3 (48:26):
I would have seen a lot of propaganda on that that
he would have turned 33 in, Iguess 2028 or something.
Yeah, yeah, whenever the nextelection is.
They would have lined him up.
Yeah, yeah, whenever the nextelection is.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
They would have lined him up.
Speaker 3 (48:37):
Yeah, he would have been able to run for president
and all that nonsense.
Well, I think it's propaganda.
Speaker 4 (48:42):
He ain't going to do it.
No, yeah, he ain't doing it.
Yeah, he's gone.
Speaker 2 (48:45):
But the dangerous thing is the person that's going
to pick up that ball after himand be a little bit more radical
with it.
Speaker 3 (48:57):
You know what I mean he was, he was classic.
Speaker 4 (48:58):
Yeah, I really hope that he gets shot by a white man
too.
He was.
He was a classic.
You know how hard it is.
You know, like if somebody cameto me right now and said,
listen, man, we want you to sellum, you know something, that
was just like a complete hustle.
You know, in my righteous mindyou know they said we want you
to sell something to people andwe know it's going to hurt them
(49:18):
down the line, you know how hardit'd be for me to keep a
straight face and sell it to you.
You know what I mean.
It would be hard.
If you're a righteous person,call yourself a Christian.
You're a righteous person.
What was dangerous about him isthat when you looked at him
while he was talking to you,it's like man, he believes this.
Speaker 3 (49:38):
He believes what he's saying, and his wife too.
She's the dangerous one.
Speaker 2 (49:44):
Yeah, I've seen she was at a conference.
Yeah, I said at a conferenceand I'm like yeah.
Speaker 3 (49:52):
He was mandoled.
You want to take some ads withit?
Speaker 2 (49:57):
That was a different look on her face.
Speaker 3 (49:59):
Like what.
Speaker 4 (50:02):
She look like she's going to kill all the niggas At
least the beast or somethinglike that man.
Speaker 2 (50:06):
But I mean, let's be clear Again, a black man did not
pull that trigger.
Speaker 3 (50:12):
Who are you mad at.
You know what I mean?
In their mind, it's the niggaphone.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
Yeah, listen, that black man did not pull that
trigger.
If he did, that brother upthere in North Carolina that
gave it to that Ukrainian lady,that was horrible.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (50:29):
He is sick, something's going on with him.
Yeah, he needs to be put underthe the jail and I hope they do
that.
Speaker 2 (50:36):
Yeah, please, that was horrible.
Speaker 3 (50:39):
The crazy stuff, bro, it was wild.
Speaker 2 (50:45):
That was sick.
That woman didn't deserve it.
I'm like what?
Speaker 3 (50:48):
Now that type of stuff.
I don't condone that you know,what I'm saying Throw that
brother under the jail.
I don't want him in the street.
You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 4 (50:54):
Like throw that brother under the jail.
Yeah, you don't represent him.
Yeah, man, I don't want him inthe street.
You know what I mean.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (50:58):
He's definitely not.
Speaker 4 (51:00):
That could have easily been somebody's wife or
you know anybody's other than mywife, mother, grandmother,
whatever.
You know what I mean.
He was a sick individual.
Speaker 2 (51:09):
You know, I guess this kind of overshadowed that
because they don't even talkabout that case too much.
Speaker 4 (51:13):
It's a perfect example of what I'm talking
about.
Some people need to be in jail.
Speaker 2 (51:16):
Oh yeah, absolutely, Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (51:18):
Some people need to be in jail, man, I don't
understand, you know, and this,is you know, I've watched, you
know in jail.
Speaker 3 (51:35):
This is my thing for that man and I agree he needs to
go under the jail.
But thinking about it I startto have compassion because I
believe that man might be sickIn order to brutalize somebody
like that on a public bus.
There has to be something wrongwith him.
He should have a real psychevaluation to see what's really
(51:55):
going on with him.
Speaker 2 (51:57):
I'll save him some time and money.
Speaker 3 (51:58):
You're just crazy.
Speaker 4 (52:00):
What you being condescending Very much so.
What you know.
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
It's funny to say that because Hold on, shout out
to the condescending natureright now.
Don't say we didn't pick up onthat, brother.
Speaker 4 (52:13):
Well, you know, that's what happens when they
kill us.
You know what I mean.
When they kill black peopleThey'll say well, somebody needs
to understand why he went andshot the church up, man.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (52:24):
Yeah, Something is wrong.
Like we got to get to thebottom of that.
He was brutalized as a child.
Speaker 2 (52:32):
And that's why I say they start changing them laws.
Man, they're going to say it'sa mental health crisis.
Speaker 3 (52:40):
He grew up in an impoverished systems,
impoverished neighborhood.
Never got no love from hisparents.
Probably was adopted.
Yeah, something's wrong.
Let's give him some help.
He'll be out in 10 years.
Speaker 4 (52:53):
That's sick man.
Speaker 3 (52:56):
Guess who we won't see in 10 years, charlie.
Speaker 2 (52:59):
That's messed up, but I will say this, I will say
this.
But you know, when he said that, right, remember he was talking
and he was saying about well,the black men are not in the
homes, or whatever the case is.
I'm just going to leave y'allwith this folks, that shooter
was turned in by his father, Allright, he was home, obviously.
(53:25):
All right.
The Only One Mike podcast,that's his dad.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's acitizen.
Speaker 3 (53:31):
I don't believe in citizens.
Speaker 2 (53:43):
That's a citizen.
So listen, the Only One Mikepodcast is available on all
platforms.
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Contact us via email at theonly one Mike zero zero at
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Have the comments and questionsplayed on the show.
(54:03):
We thank you once again foryour time.
Brothers, you, the audience.
We encourage you, please, tospeak the truth quietly and
clearly, and listen to others,even the dull and the ignorant,
because they too have theirstory to tell.
So until next time, please keepin mind we never had to run
from the Ku Klux Klan, so weshouldn't have to run from a
black man.
Peace, peace.
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