Is America on the Brink of Dictatorship?

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We discuss signs that America may be approaching a constitutional crisis. From military presence in cities to escalating restrictions on speech, these developments suggest a slide toward authoritarianism that should concern citizens across the political spectrum. As one host poignantly asks: "What is the American public going to do when he says he's not leaving office?"

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the United States government, silencing
voices that they disagree withFCC.
Chair Carr put this out.
This is his directive.
This is the US government.
Look, if they can come forKimmel, they can come for
anybody.
This is happening.
It's time to act.

(00:21):
Figure it out, find a way, cometogether, push back.
It's time to act, figure it out, find a way, come together,
push back, because if this goes,it's over.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
It's over give me a moment with your friend.
I've never been up to mythoughts before.
Welcome to the only one micpodcast called Jabra Brooklyn.

(00:55):
Dre J Rob is in the studio.
How you doing fellas.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
How's it going All?

Speaker 2 (01:00):
right y'all.
Free speech is under attacky'all.
Trump done.
Put it out there.
Man, jimmy Kimmel got suspendedand all so who's next?
All right, fellas.
So you know what we do.
You know, with Jimmy Kimmelgetting suspended indefinitely

(01:21):
by ABC and Disney, suspendedindefinitely by the um, you know
, by abc and disney and um, forsome remarks that he made when I
watched the show, honestly, itwasn't no criticism of charlie
clark.
He like mentioned them allabout two seconds.
Most of the criticism that camein that monologue was towards
donald trump and his.

(01:42):
You know his reaction, hisreaction to Charlie Clark's Kirk
Kirk, charlie Kirk, charlieKirk, charlie, charlie Kirk yeah
, Charlie Kirk, I said Clark,sorry His his reaction to, to
his death, which is basicallylike Trump mourn Charlie Kirk's
death like a child mourns agoldfish.

(02:04):
And that came because, you know, when asked about it, trump
basically glazed over it like,hey, mr President, how you doing
, I'm alright, and you know, bythe way, we're building this
ballroom.
You know what I mean.
So it was like he pretty muchjust like glazed over it.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
But or you just see now.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
No, I think he genuinely probably did not care.

Speaker 4 (02:26):
He done me.
Just talk like that anyway.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
That's how I feel.
I feel the same way.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
You're not going to overshadow what he's doing
already.
So if that ballroom is moreimportant for him, that's what
he's going to talk about.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
It's not even that he's just done me.
Just switch topics like that.
You don't even know whatever'sgonna come out of Trump mouth
that just seemed like hegenuinely didn't care.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
But that's just but.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
I don't think he cares about nothing.
No, I really don't.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
I really don't, I really don't, but that's where
it was at.
So what happens is the FCCchairman I think it's Bernard
Carr, you know instantlycontacts ABC Disney, tell him
look man, get him off the air.
And they're using Charlie Kirkas, like, the catalyst to get

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him off, based upon thatparticular statement.
Now the crazy thing is, as Itold you, I said the Internet.
I didn't know it was going togo this way, but I said the
Internet which the Internetain't but a few clicks away, man
that eventually they're goingto use this as a catalyst to
start silencing people.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (03:30):
I think he messed up though.
Man, I think they're alright ifthey're not messing with black
people and brown people, but Ithink he done stepped on them.
He done revived these liberalsman, these real white liberals.
Man Starting to get back out inthe street.
Man, you can say what you wantabout Blacks, you can say what
you want about Mexicans andHispanic people, but when you

(03:51):
start messing with whitepeople's civil liberties you
know what I mean then that's awhole different thing.
I think they're fighting alittle bit.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
The one thing that we know is that people don't want
nobody touching thatconstitution.
You know what I mean.
And so, with this being prettymuch the first amendment
constitutional situation, youknow I mean like, so, like who's
next?
I mean, the whole thing aboutlate night television is this it

(04:22):
was always which I'm not.
You know, I don't watch it.
You know, I think everything iswatched in clips.
Now nobody really sits down towatch a full episode of jimmy
kim or fallon or whoever is onat the moment.
But the problem is is thatthose institutions was always
made to criticize some type ofcorporate structure, whether it
be political man.

(04:42):
Yeah, well, they better watchthese.
But it's like you know anythingthat in type of corporate
structure or political structure, that's what they do.
You know what I mean.
It's satire.
So when it becomes morepersonal, he's like the first
president that I've seen thatactually took it that personal
to say all right, we got to getthese guys off.
And need I remind you, whenStephen Colbert got fired a few

(05:06):
months back you know, canceledthe show he said that Jimmy
Kimmel was next.
This is what Trump said.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
Yeah, the funny part about it is that Colbert is
still in the air.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Well, when they say fired, it's like, basically
we're not renewing the show, sothey're going to let him finish
his thing out contractually, sothey're going to let him finish
this thing out contractually.
That's what makes this one alittle bit more strange, because
this was so abrupt, like all ofa sudden it's like all right,
that's it, get them off.
You know, but they made it inthe sense that it wasn't Trump's
call, it was ABC and Disney'scall.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
He always reminds me of that chump kid that.
You know that just can't take ajoke.
You know I mean want to takethe ball and go home.
Yeah, you know, I mean like,because when you, when you think
about this man, I wonder if,when you think about those uh,
what was it?
Those uh dinners that barackhad the back was like
back-to-back dinners, wherethey're clowning them at the at

(05:58):
the dinner yeah, the white housecorrespondent sitting there
looking like he like like readyto flip out, or whatever the
case may be.
I wonder if they just didn'tclown him when he went through
all of this man.
You know what I mean, becauseit seems like that's what
sparked it.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
They didn't spark it.
If he can't have his way, nomatter what it is, he's got some
type of vendetta against somepeople.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
That's what I'm saying.
But I don't think he ever wouldrun for office if he didn't
ever get clowned like that.
I really honestly don't believethat he ever thought he was
going to win office.
I think he thought he was justgoing to go up there and say a
bunch of wild garbage and youknow it would just go away.
But I think he didn't realizehe woke up a racist base here in
America and they voted him in.

(06:42):
You know what I mean?
I think that's all that itboils down to.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
What do y'all think, man?
This is beyond cancel culture,because now you got people that
are actually scared to saysomething or criticize or
whatever.
This is like some North Korealevel type stuff.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
It's completely ridiculous.
Because of the simple fact ofthis, the KKK still exists.
The KKK still exists.
The KKK can put out all theirflyers, manuals, whatever, and
it's cool, nobody talks aboutthem.
Whenever some type of I guessthat's the right wing or
whatever wing it is.
When it's them with theirrhetoric, it's cool, everybody's

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supposed to accept it.
I drove around this country ina truck and everywhere I went an
H-bathroom stall that saidObama.
But that's what's going on herein this country.
We gotta stop acting likethat's not the reality that we
still live in.
Raceism is still alive.
It hasn't went nowhere.
It's even stronger than everand these niggas is in control.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
Actually, I mean he's kind of tearing down.
You know they want to buildthis dude, charlie Kirk, up.
He's tearing down his legacy.
That's what he stood on.
You know free speech Justsaying whatever stupid garbage
came out of his mouth.
You know what I mean.
So why can't a man make a joke?
Charlie Kirk says whatever hewanted to say.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
We done heard the many different wild statements
he done made.
The first Remember RushLimbaugh.
He had a nationally syndicatedradio show.
We spewed racist garbage andthey let him.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
But they always had him, bill O'Reilly.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Alex Jones.

Speaker 4 (08:15):
Yeah, he lost his shirt.
You know what I mean.
He just went too far, but hedid not technically lose the
show.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
That's the whole point.
They just moved him over to X.
So I mean it's like he didn'treally lose the show, but he
lost a lot of money.
But you didn't cancel himcompletely in fact Kanye on
there.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
That was it.
It was Kanye that he brought onright yeah, he brought Kanye on
.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
But the thing is that was a crazy interview in itself
, but he brought Kanye on.
But the thing that people don'trealize is the same people who
got Cam.
That people don't realize isthe same people who got Camel
out of here, is the ones thatbrought him back.
And this is the same personthat said the Sandy Hook thing
was a hoax.
You know what I mean.
That's where he lost his moneyat.
You know what I mean.
But they didn't cut him offcompletely.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
Bottom line.
You can say whatever you wantabout black and brown people.
You can call black people then-word.
You can call brown, uh, brownpeople.
Any kind of racist slur youwant to say.
You can do it in comedy, youcould.
You could do it in drama, youknow?
I mean, how many times do youhear people say spic or calling
uh, what is it?
You, a kite, and all theseother?

(09:19):
You don't hear these racialslurs in movies.
You don't hear them and youknow any other thing but our
racial slurs or anything towardsblack't hear them and you know
any other thing, but are racialslurs or anything towards black
and brown.
Say whatever you want.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
I'm gonna.
I'm gonna jump in here for aquick second because I'm glad
you said that I was looking atsomething the other day.
Um, you know, I haven't lookedat this show in years because it
went completely off the rails.
But like soft park, right, softpark actually had an episode
for charlie prior to him dying.
It was supposed to be releasedthat week or so, like that,
before he got killed.

(09:48):
Now they immediately took theshow off like not canceled the
show, because they just got hitwith a bag from Paramount.
You know, to keep the showgoing, it's a big contract they
got.
So they yanked that episodeRight, so they yanked that
episode right.
And the thing why I say that isthis everybody is on that dog
on apology tour or the whole.

(10:09):
You know, charlie kirk wasn't abad guy tour, you know.
I mean when they're doing thisstuff, dumb guys even doing that
and I mean these people openlymock jesus on every episode of
south park.
But when charlie kirk killed,it's like yo Jesus.
Muhammad, yeah Muhammad, alltype of stuff and it's like they
mock all of this stuff.
But when it's time for him,it's like oh we so sorry that

(10:33):
everything happened A white man.

Speaker 4 (10:35):
I'm like this dude was an open racist A white man
who was a racist goofball, andthe most, the more I watch more
and more of his clips.
You know, just happen thingspopping up over Facebook,
whatever like that.
I remember on the last show wewere saying like a lot of people
didn't get him.
But there was a lot of peoplelike just got in him.

(10:55):
You know what I mean.
And he was a complete doofball.
I mean even the whole thingwhere he says about Michelle
Obama and them.
That kind of ticked me off.
Didn't he drop out of juniorcollege or something?

Speaker 2 (11:07):
like that.
He didn't have the mentalcapacity to do X, Y, Z.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
These are people that went to Ivy League schools and
prominent institutions oflearning.
You know what I mean and yougot the nerve to say they don't
have the brain capacity to dealwith the things that he can deal
with.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
I mean it's crazy, it's white privilege.

Speaker 4 (11:28):
Yeah, definitely that's it.
White privilege is the worstthing out here, man.
It's the worst thing out here.
I mean the fact that you know,because it's almost like you can
be at the bottom of the barrel.
For some reason you thinkyou're better than me.
You know what?

Speaker 3 (11:42):
I mean, chris Rock had a joke about it years ago.
You know what I'm saying he wastalking about.
He's rich and not one white manin there would trade places
with him.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
But that's real.
White privilege is a dangerousthing, man, it's dangerous.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
Also dangerous is the fact that you have so many
people that's like again manlike, despite the fact that you
have so many people that's likeagain man like, despite the fact
that he said the things that hesaid.
That sides with him and I wantto bring this home man,
especially our people oh, man,we got.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
Christian so called pastors out here, cooning
rappers everybody's out here,kunin rappers, everybody's out
here Kunin man Like this guy.
I mean there's people that'scoming on here.
I'm going to tell you I thinkwe talked about this before man
A lot of people I think theyhaven't even heard of him.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
They didn't, and I think that's the big thing, and
they're just making statementsbecause they're just saying well
, a person got shot.

Speaker 4 (12:48):
I think a lot some people are now waking up to see
like who he really is.
But I mean, if you're coming ona national show, man, you're on
television.
Those people, you know what Imean.
The Facebook mob, you know theyjust ignorant, they don't know
what's going on half the time.
You know it's just followingalong with the status quo.
You know it's just followingalong with the status quo.
But in regards to those whoyour job is to, you know, get

(13:08):
information and give it back topeople and give your thoughts on
it or whatever, it's absolutelycrazy that you will come on,
you know, publicly syndicatedshow and just make a fool of
yourself.
I heard one Well, we'll saywe'll talk about another time.
Heard one well, we'll say we'lltalk about another time.
But stephen a basically said uh, you know, because he got shot

(13:28):
in front of his wife and hiskids.
That exonerates everything thathe did wrong in his life you
know what I?

Speaker 2 (13:35):
mean, okay, let's you know what, let me, let me jump
in here real quick.
All right, this is uh, stephena, uh quote.
I'm you know, I'm just going toread it, I'm not going to play
the clip Now.
When asked about the death ofCharlie Kirk, stephen A
criticized Jimmy Kimmel for amonologue where Kimmel made
jokes about political reactionsto Kirk's killing.

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Smith asked where was the joke.
He questioned whether there wasany comedic content in what
Kimmel said and implied that itwasn't funny and perhaps
ill-advised.
He also said about him beingtaken off air that he was
disturbed that ABC suspendedKimmel for the remarks and he
expressed sympathy for Kimmel,calling him a good man with a

(14:17):
record of service.
But he also acknowledged thatKimmel did that what Kimmel did
may not have been the wisestmove.
All he did was criticize Trump.
I mean like, if y'all listen toit, you know that what Kimmel
did may not have been the wisestmove, all he did was criticize
Trump.

Speaker 4 (14:30):
I mean like, if y'all listen to it, you know he did
what he's supposed to do.
He did what he do in any otherlate night night.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (14:33):
Yeah, yeah, I mean no different than David Letterman
and everybody before him mighthave done, you know, and a lot
of the comedians, like BillMaher, even who's on the um on
the side with you know the wholemaggot.
Well, actually he's aconservative, so he say.
He even said it was wrong whilehe was criticizing jimmy kimmel
but still giving him props atthe same time he was like yo,
like that shouldn't havehappened.
But also, uh, steven a, uh jrob's man here, uh condemned

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those who celebrated kirk'sdeath or tried to use it to pray
for praise or political pointscoring.
He emphasized that, regardlessof political views, the killing
of a person is a tragedy thatshouldn't be glossed over by
partisanship, which you know,like I don't like.

Speaker 4 (15:15):
Again, I'm not all about no public execution, but
the man says some you know, Iknow J Rob is what you say
Diametrically opposed to what wesaid, but I don't believe
nobody should just get killed,but on the same token, I don't
believe that nobody should be.
No, you know we got to lookover your life like.
You know, like, just becauseyou got killed, you know we got
to forget about what youactually did in life.

(15:37):
You know what I mean?
That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
This is my thing, right To be honest.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
It's not that I don't care.
Hold on, can I interrupt you?
I just want to say one thing.
I apologize to you, man,because you told me he was a
coon.
I've been trying to I wastrying to, you know, dance
around him because I thought hemade some good points here and
there, but he really cooned outand I guess because he's a
Disney puppet now.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
Yeah, that's exactly what he is.
And it's crazy because it'slike I understand, like yo get
your money, but at the end ofthe day, you got to be a man.
Like the people that put you inthis position, they expect you
to be a man and stand up, like,like, like.
We was the.
We was the ones reading yourarticles and hyping you up and
watching first take and watchingyour shows, like now, and now

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that you got to a certain level,it's like I don't care about
the brothers and the sistersthat was always riding with me.
Only thing I care about isthese white corporate dollars.
That's the definition of a coon.
Definition of a coon.

Speaker 4 (16:40):
And just the crazy part about him is I couldn't see
how he just and he was sopassionate about this, but and
again, this is something that Iwent along with him because I
didn't agree with Kyrie Irvingbut you ripped into Kyrie Irving
like it was something crazy andnow this dude said stuff that
Kyrie Irving never said.
Kyrie Irving just watched thevideo and you sitting here, you

(17:07):
know ripping this dude apart,like you know rip, rip Kyrie
Irving apart like you know,crazy, but this.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
We're held to a different standard than
everybody else and it and it,really it burns me up on the
inside like I.
I really have a fundamentalissue with it because it's like
yo, yo.
Why aren't our prominent peoplein our society this Black?
Why aren't they standing up?
Because I can't be the onlyperson to see this.

Speaker 4 (17:31):
Yeah, it's terrible, man, it's terrible.
It's been a few good, I guess,ministers that have said some
things.
They really went in.
But then there's others that,just like I heard the one
minister, what's his name?
Walton.
First of all, let's say thisbecause J-Rob disagreed with us.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
Where's Farrakhan at?

Speaker 4 (17:54):
Be honest with you.
Farrakhan's been veryconservative in the last couple
years.
Farrakhan might say somethingthat might shock you.
Be honest with you.
Farrakhan might say somethingthat's shocking.
I'm telling you that if you canfind a video of.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
Farrakhan on YouTube.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
I'm just saying where's the militancy?
We're not going to fall foranything.
You got these buffooning niggasthat sit here and listen to
these, these peddlers, and willactually just agree with it,
like no, we can't, as a people,sit here and just take this.

(18:31):
I don't agree with anybody, andnot just black people, white
people, see, because eithery'all are part of the solution
or you're part of the problem.
We're not the only ones to seethis nonsense going on, but
because it's not affecting yourcommunity, you're really not
saying nothing, but the youngerwhite people are actually coming

(18:51):
out in droves and have an issuewith this stuff.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
And then to your point.
I know you wanted to touch onPatrick Wooten.
Bishop Wooten, he's disgusting.

Speaker 4 (19:05):
He's disgusting.
Well, hold on.
Let me just clarify some ofwhat he said.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
Actually, I have it right here oh you got it.

Speaker 4 (19:14):
But we can't listen to the whole thing because it's
too much.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
No, I'm not going to listen to it.
So what I'm going to do is I'mgoing to read the actual
transcript.
Okay, go ahead.
So just some bullet points onwhat was said during that
particular sermon at Wooten'sChurch.
He called Charlie Kirk'skilling an assassination and
said it was a huge moral tragedy.
That's one thing.

Speaker 4 (19:35):
Can I say this to you ?
Yeah, I just want to stop you.
I know you're going to get in.
Only reason I want to say thisis that I and we don't agree,
but J-Rob does, but, and wedon't agree but J-Rob does, but
we don't agree with nobodykilling nobody.
You know what I mean.
I don't Because I think somepeople were saying that on the
last thing we sent out, thatthey thought we was insensitive
or whatever, like that, anddon't get me wrong.

(19:56):
Like I said, I feel like wesaid enough, but just to say
that we don't mean for nobody todie, you know what I mean, and
in fact we have more people thatactually you know we had a few
people.
Yeah, we have more people thatagree with us Understood.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
Yeah, this is my thing.
It's not that I wanted thenigga to get shot, it's that I
don't care.
The tragedy is these childrenbeing killed.
The tragedy are these blackpeople being killed by police in
the street in cold blood.

Speaker 4 (20:25):
That's tragedy, cause it's rhetoric Right.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
Right.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
And I see what you're saying.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
Cause he ran his mouth and he couldn't stand on
it.
The thing is is that he gotkilled by another white person.
That's why don't white crime.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
Yeah.
So it's like I get what you'resaying.
It's like more If we took thatpassion and put it in more
issues that's going on out here.
You know what I mean, asopposed to being kind of
condemned for speaking aboutthings that he said.
That's on record.
You know what I mean.
That was very inflammatory andcrazy.
So, getting back to what youwere saying, your points about

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Wooten, he also described Kirkas a man of God.
Quote unquote Wooten urged theChristian community and the
church to respond with grace.
He also made a point about love.
God is love, but love is notGod.
I don't get that one.
Let me read that again.
He said God is love, but loveis not God.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
He's talking about both sides of the mouth, yeah
he's a nut job and he's alsosaid a tremendous man of God was
assassinated, and this is fromone of.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
that was from one of the videos.
He said he didn't die, he wasmurdered.

Speaker 4 (21:33):
Part of a longer statement that was emphasizing
it, so I mean just the fact thatit was some sort of political
execution, or Well then they gotshot because he was running his
mouth, talking about somepeople that he shouldn't have
been talking about.
And he had the nerve in that.
You know to sum up what he waskind of saying, like forget

(21:54):
about everything he was actuallysaying.
My daughter and my son got apersonal relationship with him.
They know that he's not aracist.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
Are you nuts?
He was saying that his daughter, I guess his daughter,
son-in-law, whatever was a partof Turning Point, which was
Charlie Kirk's organization.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
Basically, he's getting laced up somehow,
somebody making some money offof that hustle or whatever the
case may be it has to be Anothercoon, yeah, total coon.
Like come on, man, and you knowfrom the posts on Facebook and
stuff like that I've beendealing with this week, man,
it's like I get tired of blackpeople and white people telling

(22:32):
me stupid stuff, like his stuffwas taken out of context.
I literally went on what yousee him doing.
I said, listen, I'll send you aYouTube video of everything
that he's actually saying.
It's not taken out of context.
He's talking to you.
He's telling you that the CivilRights Act was a mistake.
He's telling you Martin LutherKing was off.
You know what I mean?
He's telling you these things.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
I had a conversation with a family member and they
was trying to tell me theyliterally telling me the things
that I'm telling them that thisman said was taking out of
context, Like I mean, like Ifelt so disappointed.
Yes, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (23:14):
Like, come on, Are you that stupid?
Like for real.
But you know what, though?
I'm going to tell you somethingright now.
This is going to show you thepower of the internet.
These people are hypnotized,man.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
Yeah, man.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
These people are hypnotized.
Man Like you're like what doyou mean?
Like me, and you are talkingright now, what do you mean?
If you take a bits and pieces,I could see if you manipulated
something I said or whateverlike that.
But if you took out a largepart of what I'm saying to you
right now, took out a large partof what I'm saying to you right
now, and then you say later on,you're taking what Andre said

(23:48):
out of context.
I'm telling you right now Ithought it was wrong for the man
to get shot, especially infront of his family On the other
side of it.
He was a horrible individualman.
He was a horrible individual.
He was a young and you're goingto think this is crazy.
I read Mein Kampf, I read, Iread Mein Kauf.
I did my homework on AdolfHitler.

(24:08):
He was a very stylish person,like a young Adolf Hitler.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
That's how he started out.
Is the words you're looking for?

Speaker 4 (24:15):
Yeah, he was just like him.
You know, that's how he startedout Smooth talk, smooth speech.
He got some people to put somemoney behind him.
He started telling people theseJews are the problem with
Germany, this is why Germanycan't stand up.
So, with that and putting moneyin the hands of the Germans and
helping them, it was easy forthem to say, well, he helping us

(24:37):
, the money's behind us, wedon't really care about these
Jews.
Anyway, let's go ahead and burn, you know, let's go ahead and
take these Jews to the tank.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
In my opinion, charlie Kirk wasn't a smooth
talker.
He, he, he was just anotherlittle ignorant white man
operating in white privilege.
He talked very arrogant, hetalked down to people.

Speaker 4 (24:55):
He wasn't really charismatic, he was just white
well, when I say that, to me itseems very simple.
I'm saying to that base that'sI believe, honestly speaking,
that's really what they wantedanyway.
Yeah, this is the person thatthey want to speak anyway.
You know what I mean.
Things that he said theyprobably been wanting to say for
years, but they wasn't manenough to come out and say it.

(25:18):
And he's saying it.
But again, adolph Hitler was nogenius, you know what I mean.
He was just somebody that spoketo a base of people that was
already willing to hate anyway,that's pretty much the same
thing he was doing.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
I told y'all before man and y'all thought I was
joking.
I said what is the Americanpublic going to do when he say
he not leaving office?

Speaker 2 (25:36):
And that's what I'm getting at.
It's like say again, and itbrings it back to your Because
if he decides to do that, let'sjust play hypothetical.
What if?
All right, playing what if?
So what if he decides, I'm notleaving office.

Speaker 4 (25:51):
You know what I mean America's over America's, over
America's over.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
But would that come with just the easing in, or
would that take a revolution?
You know what I mean.
So it's like it's over now.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
Just a few weeks ago they had council members and
council representative members.
They had to flee because theywere going to get locked up.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
America's finished, but do you think we have that
point.
This is what I'm getting at.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
Do you think we have that point where this man pretty
?

Speaker 2 (26:18):
much wants to slap a crown on his head and says I am
the king of.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
America.
I am king of America.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Yes, we are so like say, all right.
So, with that being said, again, we see the takeovers of these
major cities.
We see what's going on with theFCC.
We see that, you know, freepress ain't free, no more.
Speech ain't free, no more.
You know what I mean.
What is the actual?
What do you think, in youropinion, would be the actual way
?

Speaker 4 (26:48):
The only people can combat that is black, brown and
some of these white liberalsworking together.
That's the only way.
I mean, as far as America isconcerned, do I believe that
it's over?
Nah, I still think I got to seehow this pans out.

(27:09):
Don't get me wrong.
I'm like you.
I'm looking at it and I'msaying it's a lot of wild
garbage going on.
I believe that it's like donewhere you know it can't be, like
straightened out, because I'mthinking right now, even like
I'm seeing within the lastcouple of days, there's more
people now Like wait a minute,hold on, this is going too far
going too far.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
Even people within his base is speaking against his
whole situation.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
Let me tell you why it's over.
He's been, and his base and thepeople around him have been
doing nothing but lying.
And there are people the peoplethat they're because they're
not just talking to their base,they're talking to Americans.
There are Americans thatbelieve the lies and they're not
smart enough or they don't haveenough critical thinking skills

(27:58):
to actually be able to find outthe truth through those lies.
They actually believe that crapthat they're saying, the stuff
that they're being indoctrinatedwith.
They believe it.
That's why America's over.

Speaker 4 (28:13):
Yeah, I believe that they believe it, but I also
believe and again.
I stand a chance of possiblybeing corrected that I still
believe that there's.
I'll say this I don't thinknobody cares what happened to
Black and brown people inAmerica.
I'm not saying not all whitepeople, not all white people.
I'm not saying that's not allwhite people, not all white
people, but I'm saying thatthere's a heavy base of white

(28:36):
people that don't care about our.
They don't care about what goeson with us.
And then I believe there's alarge portion of white America.
That's what they consider whitemoderate.
I don't think they hate Blackpeople, I don't think they hate
brown people, but I think theyjust are happy with the status
quo.
Whatever thing will make thingsjust go smooth.
You know what I mean.
I think that's what it is.

(28:56):
But I think now the problem isit's not a black and brown
problem.
He's actually stepping on whitepeople's toes.
You know what I mean.
Like he's stepping on the whiteliberal base where it's like I
do believe that and I say thisall the time there's white
people that believe in America.
I don't necessarily believe init, but there's white people

(29:17):
believe in that constitution.
They believe in you know, likeyou said, standing up for the
flag and all that other stufflike that.
So I think that's what Iprobably still hold on to that
those people will stand up anddo something about it.
That's what I'm thinking.
Yeah, so in terms of like, Idon't think they're going to
just roll over like that, and Icould see that right now, even
like.
I think, just like, maybe,maybe, like in the last couple

(29:38):
of weeks, I think everybody wasscared to say anything about
Trump.
Now, if you notice, in the lastthree or four days now, it's
like people like saying, wait aminute, hold on a minute.
You know comedians coming out,different people that can, you
know, change something.
You know what I mean.
It's like wait a minute.
Even some of his you know,republican Party members are now
saying like you can't take freespeech away from people.

(29:59):
Because I think one of theimportant things that what's the
guy DAL Hughley said is likeyou know, what you have to be
careful is like you areRepublicans and y'all have the
ball right now.
What happens when a Democrathas the ball and he decides that
he wants to dominate y'all thesame way?
You know what I mean.
So I think that was somethingimportant to say.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
Democrats may not have the ball again.
You might be right.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
And also too, I think , even in terms of the things
that's happening with these newsstations and you know late
night shows, whatever it is, yougot to hold a lot of these
corporations accountable too,because it seems to me and just
in watching the news as of late,he has a lot of these you know
corporations in his pocket.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
That's the thing, right.
So that was part of theconversation that I was having
earlier Not earlier, but I wastalking to somebody.
I was telling them that Trumphas told these colleges that if
they have those DEI people oryou know, not immigrant, but if

(31:06):
you have Blacks or Hispanics,come and speak, that we're going
to take your funding.
The only people that you areallowed to have here to come
speak is people like charliekirk and, at first, some of the
colleges buck, but they realizedthat they would.
They would lose everything andthey need this government
funding yeah, but that's the.

Speaker 4 (31:27):
That's the thing that a lot of people are starting to
, um, even uh, talk inWashington about.
Whether or not they can changeit or not, I don't know, but
they're starting to buck nowLike wait a minute, hold on, man
.
Like you're putting yourself ina situation where you're above
reproach, like nobody can sayanything about you.
This is getting ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
And that's called a dictatorship.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
at this point, Like you can't, but it's been that
way.

Speaker 4 (31:52):
I don't mean to say nothing new, I think, for him.
I won't say that.
I'll say in the past year,since he got in office, that's
how it's been.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
We forget about how bad it was when he first was
president Because of thatnonsense.
He was so bad that theDemocrats felt like they could
pander to us, like if you don'tvote for us, then you ain't
Black, because y'all niggascan't be voting for him.

Speaker 4 (32:17):
Yeah, I agree with you on that, Come on.
But I think again, I think thatwas the thing, that kind of
like and this is where it goesback to what I was saying before
I think he, when you're talkingabout black and brown, which he
was before, he had no respectfor us before and I think when
he started stepping on the toes,I believe that's how he lost
the second presidency.
You know what I mean, Becausehe was stepping on the toes of

(32:39):
you know, people's actual rights.
You know what I mean.
Honestly speaking, I'm going totell you the issue.
I believe that what happenedwith Kamala Harris and Biden is
that simply this Is that theydid nothing for four years.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
They did nothing for four years, man.
And that's another thing, man,and this is why I don't believe
in none of the system at all Idon't believe in politics,
period.
I don't believe in the system atall, because of this.
When they say that Barack wasin there, he was trying to do
things, they kept saying theRepublicans kept filibustering
him and wouldn't allow him to dothings.
But when Donald Trump want todo something, he gets that done,
no matter what.

(33:15):
I don't care if Corey, whateverhis name is stand up in a thing
and want to talk for 36 hours.
Nobody cares.
Nobody cares.

Speaker 4 (33:23):
Forget that, get it done.
But I think also too and again,I'm not a big, huge person on
politics, as of late, but Ithink the whole point is that
the Republicans are in the Houseand that's the reason why
they're saying that he's able topush the things that he are
able to push.
But again it goes back to whatI was saying before.

(33:46):
With this whole thing, man, itscares me.
It scares me the way it's going, the way it's looking.
But I think what happenedbefore is this maybe might be
the same thing that happened now.
He's stepping on people's civilwhite people's civil liberties
and that's, I believe, got himout of office and that's what

(34:06):
got Kamala Harris and Biden inthe office.
And when I say Kamala Harris andBiden didn't do anything, I'm
just saying, first of all, to behonest with you, kamala was in
office all this time.
I didn't know.
I didn't know what Kamala didfor four years.
I'm being honest with you.
You know what I mean and I'mnot trying to take because some
people listen to this andthey'll be saying like you're
taking flight on the system.
I don't know what she did.
And as far as Biden isconcerned, you know the four
years that he was in there.

(34:27):
This is me personally.
This is how I feel out of mypocket.
I don't know what happened.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
I don't know what happened to everybody else.
You're down to real Stephen ASmith-ish right now.
Man Huh, Down to real Stephen ASmith-ish.

Speaker 4 (34:45):
No, listen to what I'm saying to you.
I'm not saying that you know.
I mean I don't care how bad hedid.
I'm just saying that you know,during my, during that time I my
money, you know, I invest my401k, all that other stuff like
that Didn't do well under thatsituation, man.
This is being honest.
You know what I mean and Ithink that's the problem.

(35:07):
Where it's like almost bloodsand crips with this Democratic
and Republican thing, where youcan't call out wrong on either
side, I can be objective and saywhat I want to say.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
They're two sides of the same coin.

Speaker 4 (35:19):
Yeah, well, that's what I'm saying.
I can speak to Black people andI see how they're like starch
Democrats.
You know what I mean.
No matter how stupid or howlackluster a Democrat might seem
to you for years, you just keepvoting this person back in
office.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
This is the thing Republicans right now are
actually.
They're going against thefundamental views of what
Republicans are.
Republicans are supposed to beless government, less government
intrusion, less laws, basicallyto say that you can't do stuff.
That's what the Republicans areabout.

(35:57):
But now, with this newRepublican Party, Donald Trump
has come in and said forget allthat, I'm going to intrude in
everything.

Speaker 4 (36:08):
I think they still talk the less government thing
and stuff like that.
But, like you said, I thinkhis's still trying to.
I think they still talk theless government thing and stuff
like that.
But, like you said, I think histhing is just more, just not
even.
It's not even about more laws,it's about more, more of his
dominance.
I don't think you care aboutall the other stuff, it's just
more about what I want to do.
I mean kind of like, could youimagine?
I mean, if they don'tstraighten out this issue with
the media and with you know,being able to voice your opinion

(36:33):
against him, he's going to beprobably like the first
president in office, whereas,like you can't say nothing about
him.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
Yeah, and I mean that's.

Speaker 4 (36:42):
I mean, if there's the opportunity for him to get a
second term, he's going toautomatically get it, because
you can't say nothing about himnot getting a second term.
This is yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
Yeah, go ahead it, because you can't say nothing
about him not getting a secondtime this isn't I mean third
time by law, it's over.

Speaker 3 (36:57):
By law, it's over.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
Yeah, and it's crazy because you had a lot of people
who actually were like I guessyou can say cancelled or fired
Like.
It's so crazy right now and Ididn't even bring this point up
is that the influence of thissituation is so hard and so
impactful that people who arenot even celebrities are getting
fired from their jobs forhaving an opinion on this thing

(37:23):
you know like you're losing youknow, you have educators, you
have people that are ingovernment official positions
and all, and they might put outa tweet or something, something
that this guy actually said andsaid this was not correct or
this is not right, and they'regetting fired.
You know what I mean Losingwhole careers over this thing.
But I also wanted to ask, man,before we get ready to wrap,

(37:43):
it's like, where do you think itgoes from here, man?
Like, what's next?
Do you see, like people who doactually say something about
this dude getting put in sometype of prison?

Speaker 3 (37:53):
or camp.
Yeah, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (37:55):
Like something crazy.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
Yeah, I mean, I'm going to be honest with you, man
.
I think right now they'reshowing us what they're doing.
They're rolling out thismilitary into these cities and
they're not doing that just to.
That's the prerequisite ofsomething.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
And I agree with that , because even when I look at a
lot of the stuff that's going onright now and you and I talked
offline, jay, and talk about howyou know, um, charlie kirk's
funeral was this weekend and Iseen on the news where they were
saying like they're they'rebeefing up security because
they've been getting so manythreats quote unquote about you
know, people acting up atfuneral and it's almost as if,

(38:33):
like you said to your point manlike you anticipating something
happening, because if somethinghappened at this man's funeral,
some group is going to be blamedfor it.
You know what I mean.
And when they do get blamed forit, this is where you're going
to see this whole thing really,really spiral out of control.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
I'm just glad it ain't us Well that's the thing,
brother.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
That's what we talked about.
Yeah, they might try to connectit back to us somehow.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
What I mean is that I don't see us going out there
and doing anything in public forthis.
I don't see us going out therelike yo.
I don't see us going out therelike yo.
I don't think there's a niggain America that would think it's
a good idea to show up at thatfuneral.
I disagree, I disagree.

(39:21):
I think you're going to see alot of it.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
I think you will.
Based upon what you've seen onthis internet, I believe that
people I'm talking aboutsomebody that wants to do
something malicious.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
Oh, okay, I'm not talking about the baboons that
want to go there and kiss thering, and kiss his feet and do
all that.
They are the type of niggas.
That would actually the HarrietTubman would have left, but she
would have killed him.

Speaker 4 (39:51):
Yeah, but I could go on and do that with that.
Not today, Hopefully.
What's the name they weretalking about?
They were preparing for Antifaand all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
Yeah yeah, and, like I told you, jay offline, since
he deemed them a terroristorganization.
And understand this man, thesegovernment officials, how they
provide coutures man, they sendsomebody in there.
Antifa doesn't reallytechnically have a head of it.
You know some type of structureso you can say anybody is
Antifa, you know what I mean.
And if you send somebody outthere, they cut up.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
That could be the setup for the distraction that's
the other one.
I don't believe.
I don't believe that everythingis what it is.
I think, because of all thenonsense that come along with
this, everything about this casesays that, hey, this ain't
right From him.
You know from the text messagesfrom him.

(40:50):
Breaking down the rifle,hopping down the roof, roof and
then reassembling the rifle,that sounds insane.
I don't think anybody with anytype of weapon would ever do
anything like that, especiallywhen you're when your adrenaline
is flowing because yousupposedly just shot somebody.
Why are you going to break downa rifle, hop off the roof and
then put the rifle back together?

(41:10):
What sense does that make?
You want to break down a rifle,hop off the roof and then put
the rifle back together and thenthrow it away?
What?

Speaker 2 (41:14):
sense does that make Right me if I'm wrong, he's been
in custody.
He's been in custody for whatLike about a week now or
something like that.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
Did you hear him make any statement or any update on
that, oh?
They're not going to love himExactly, and that's what I'm
saying.
It's like last I heard hewasn't there, he didn't talk.

Speaker 4 (41:30):
You will never hear his voice again.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
And that's what I'm concerned, because now we done
moved over to you know we builtin a ballroom.

Speaker 4 (41:37):
We won't hear his voice.
We will not see his court case.
You'll never know what's goingto?

Speaker 3 (41:42):
happen, that's what I'm saying and his father got a
million dollars to turn this onhim.
But you know like you said.

Speaker 4 (41:52):
It's crazy, because that's one thing that I've been
looking at too.
It's like you don't know whatto believe.
You know what I mean.
Like who's involved with what?
I even think sometimes whenspeaking to black people, um,
online, or well, online,definitely.
Or even seeing some of thesemedia people talk about charlie
kirk like a, like a good person,like I'm like, are you in
pocket?
Like what are you?

(42:12):
Or are you a bi?
Am I speaking to AI?
You know what I mean.
Like I don't understand for thelife of me how a Black person
can uphold somebody.
I mean, forget about everythingelse.
He just said Everything he saidin life the fact that the man
said the civil rights movementwas a mistake.
You know what I mean.
I don't know how any blackperson in America can go along

(42:38):
with that at all and uphold youin any way possible.
You know what I mean,especially those who are sitting
on these doggone news outletsand stuff like that, because the
only reason you're sittingthere and I'm not saying that
has anything to do with yourintelligence or anything like
that, because the only reasonyou're sitting there and I'm not
saying that has anything to dowith your intelligence or
anything like that.
It don't have anything, youknow, because white people play
that and say, well, you know,that's what you're saying.

(42:59):
It's about his intelligence, heshouldn't be there, but he's
there.
No, you were intelligent enoughto get there, but you're there.
But just because they had tomeet a quota, we the quota.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
We were always good enough.
Y'all never gave us a freshchance.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
Yeah, he was always.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
That's what it was.
We asked to actually get a shot.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
Even the thing you said about the Black pilots,
like you know, I gotta wonder ifthey qualify.
You've had Black people go tospace, brother, not just fly a
plane, fly off the planet.

Speaker 3 (43:28):
I'm gonna be honest, I don't believe that space thing
.
But that's what I'm going to behonest, I don't believe that
space thing.

Speaker 4 (43:33):
But that's what I'm going to say.
Well, you know, it's kind ofcrazy when you say the things
that he says, because you know,when you're looking back on it,
like we are the inventors, blackpeople are the, you know, I
mean I'm not trying to sit hereand you know, say black is
better than white and all thisother stuff like that.
But black people have, how canyou say like I would be worried
about a Black pilot or I wouldbe worried about a Black doctor?

(43:54):
A Black doctor was the one whocreated heart surgery.
You know what I mean.
You know, when you look back onit, these people have made like
some wonderful inventions inlife.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
Contributions to society.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
Contributions to society as a whole.
White people steal it and thencreate laws and say that it's
theirs.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
So the US Patent Office.

Speaker 4 (44:17):
Well, I mean, that's filled with a bunch of black
people's ideas.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
I don't even really know much about this system to
either like or one way or theother, but I heard Lizzo talking
about them, copyright rules,and how they actually didn't
exist when Elvis was doing thisthing and he stole all Chuck
Berry's work.
And then all of a sudden,copyright rules and you can't
sample nobody else's music.

Speaker 4 (44:42):
Yeah, man, what white people did to black people in
music is so horrible, it's crazy.
Like if you go back to musicnow you know how YouTube throws
up every now and then and youlisten to the Beach Boys and
then you listen to Chuck Berry,they stole the whole riff.
They just completely stole thewhole beat and changed the song.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (45:03):
They said Hound Dog is his whole vibe, word for word
.

Speaker 4 (45:06):
Wow you know what I mean.
Again, man, it's just a lot ofwild garbage going on right now.
Again, I got to be optimisticand think it ain't over.

Speaker 3 (45:15):
It's the nature of the white man.
We just sat here and pointedout all these things and you
still trying to deny it.
You look, you start to act likeI'm going to call you Stephen A
Dre man.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
Whoa.

Speaker 4 (45:30):
Let me tell you how it is, man, and I'll say this to
you, man, when it comes to meagain, you know, when it comes
to the religious aspect ofthings, man, I actually just
believe I just can't condemnpeople, man, because I don't
want to be condemned.
You know what I mean.
I want to see the good ineverybody, man, you know what I
mean.
I'm not saying that people arenot wrong.
You're not gonna get me to comeup here and say, like you know

(45:52):
white folk, uh, you know thedevil, or anything like that,
but I can pinpoint a person thatdid something wrong I know that
ain't all white people ain'ttrying to, you know, but the
majority of them are.

Speaker 3 (46:05):
And I say that because these laws still exist.
They keep us underneath theboot.
They're not.
They're not really fighting tochange those things.

Speaker 4 (46:12):
Well, again, that's what I said, man, and that's
what I believe the overallproblem is is that I believe
that there are good white people, man, and I believe that
there's good people all over,but I think the problem is in
life is that people arecomplacent.
You know what I mean.
This is something I've been onheavy lately.

(46:33):
The white moderate, the whitemoderate's ideology is like
listen, I just want to go towork every day.
You know what I mean.
I don't want to deal with theGeorge Floyd thing.
You know what I mean becauseyou got to deal with it, because
that's the way we can moveforward and make things better.
But I think that you know, likeyou said, like Martin Luther

(46:53):
King was saying, like the whitemoderate is a very is worse than
the racist in the sense becausethey're just happy with life
going on as usual.
Not only that the whitemoderate.

Speaker 3 (47:04):
You don't really know where you stand with them.
They don't tell you all theright things in your face, but
behind your back they're goingto be saying, yeah, that's a
good nigga.

Speaker 4 (47:15):
But I'll say this, man, but I'll say this also too
man Very articulate, I've met,you know I was in the military,
so I've met wonderful, wonderfulCaucasian brothers, man, that
were probably more radical thanyou are towards the system.
You know what I mean.
I met a lot of different peoplein different areas, man.

(47:41):
That's why I can't be racist.
I just can't be.
There ain't anything in me todo.

Speaker 3 (47:45):
You can't be racist because you're black, but I
understand where you're comingfrom.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
We're going to have to open that topic up.
Yeah, man.
On that yard line for a minute,bro, corporation-wise.
I mean, this ain't about justJimmy Kimmel, this is about in
general.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (48:04):
Well, I already see.
I didn't mean to cut you off,but I already see, as of right
now, I think it was somethingthat just popped up online.
It's like, I think, whateverstation it was, what is it?
Abc?
Abc, yeah, disney, they'resaying they're coming together
to work something out.
So I don't know what theworkout will be, but they might
be getting pressure now.
And let me say this too I'mturning off Disney.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
Yeah, I was going to say the chick from She-Hulk I'm
turning off Disney.

Speaker 4 (48:33):
I'm down with that man, I'll be honest with you and
I'm going to disrespect Disneyanyway.
The only reason I watch it isbecause they still got the X-Men
on it.
I'm a crazy X-Men fan.
I sit there and watch X-Men allday, man.
The rest of the Disney channelis trash.

Speaker 3 (48:52):
I ain't going to lie, black show out right now on
hulu called reasonable doubtstars.
A wonderful, wonderful blackcast.
I love it.

Speaker 4 (48:55):
And the new season just came out and I'm not gonna
tell me you're gonna sell outman I still watch football.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
I'm still watching to get off oh wait, wait yo.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
Oh yeah, we didn't talk about that yeah, I still
yeah, um about again.
I want to make this to CharlieKirk, our man, but we did not
talk about that how the NFLteams pay tribute to him.

Speaker 4 (49:18):
To Charlie Kirk.
Yes, he did a moment of silence.
He got a moment of silence.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
Yeah, and I mean it's crazy, all right.

Speaker 4 (49:27):
They had the nerve to tell us that they didn't want
to be political during theKaepernick thing.
Right, but what was the slogan?
Like Don't be political playball or some crazy garbage like
that no it was some littlenonsense.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
Basically, shut up nigga and play ball.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
Yeah, yeah.
So let's just run down right.
So this is what they said.
It was like a few teams thathonored or paid tribute to
Charlie Kirk the Green BayPackers, the New York Jets,
dallas Cowboys.
Now, if this is some of y'all-favorite teams.

Speaker 4 (49:56):
Folks, you might want to check the temperature.
It might be easier, just sayingthe ones that didn't do it.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
All right, let's go.
I wanted to put everybody onblast.

Speaker 3 (50:02):
Yeah, because it's only like five.
That didn't.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
The only five that didn't Maybe a little bit more.
It's five, it maybe a littlebit more, but yeah, it's five,
five, six, something like thatnow.
But I want to put everybody onblast.
That did, that did, and y'allin the comments can tell me if
these are the same teams thatgave y'all a hard time about
kneeling.
You know what I mean.
During the Kaepernick era, thegreen Bay Packers, definitely

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one New York jets, the DallasCowboys, the dolphins, new York
Jets, the Dallas Cowboys, theDolphins, the Saints, the Titans
, the Chiefs, the Cardinals andthe Pittsburgh Steelers, as well
as the Buffalo Bills.
Now, the teams that did not wasthe Bengals, the Lions, the
Colts, the Vikings, the Ravensand, it says, the Houston Texans
.
They held a moment of silencebut did not specifically name

(50:50):
Charlie Kirk in it.
Charlie Kirk in it, Choosing.
Instead a broader tribute toall the victims of violence and
natural disasters.
Now, he said the NFL initiallymandated a moment of silence for
the Packers versus Commandersgame as a league tribute.
For subsequent games, theleague left the decision up to
individual teams.

(51:14):
Now, I don't know about that man.
Somebody went in the lockerroom and said, yo, we're going
to nil for Charlie Kirk.
And everybody said yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:21):
It's disgraceful.

Speaker 4 (51:24):
Where that goofy, where that crazy Jay-Z?

Speaker 3 (51:25):
at.

Speaker 4 (51:26):
The one that won a host of the halftime show every
year and talk about how thingsgot better with their relations
with the NFL.
And the NFL is the most racistgroup of men, that old boy
network that run that wholething.
That's why you can't get a.
If you're black or Hispanic,you can't even buy a franchise.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
You can't start letting niggas be quarterbacks.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
Yeah, and they said, on this one too, guys, let
niggas be quarterbacks.
Yeah, and they said on this onetoo, guys, check this out.
They said that some teams paidtribute in ways that weren't
widely reported or reporteddifferently.
They did visuals on screen,they lowered flags or more
generic tribute.
So absence of evidence isn'talways absence of evidence so I
mean they did it, and then it.

Speaker 4 (52:11):
Let me just say this, man, so you know, because you
always have these people outhere that think they so
intelligent, right?
I don't know any Black ownersin the NFL.
I'm talking about real owners.
Hold on, this is what I'msaying, because let me tell you
what some people will do.
They'll say that stupid garbagelike Venus and Serena is owners
of it.
Most of these black people thathave ownership in these

(52:35):
organizations, these football,basketball organizations they
only own like maybe a percent,if that, and a lot of times they
just there.
Just so you know, somebodycould say we have, we have black
owners in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
You know I mean that's it.

Speaker 4 (52:50):
They don't actually really own and say nothing in
regards to what goes on here.
I would love to see how muchMagic owns and the different
things that he has, because Ithink it was Jay-Z that only
owned like 1% of Brooklyn Netsor something crazy like that.
Not even a whole percentage andthey had him all up and down

(53:11):
Brooklyn painted like he's theowner or whatever the case may
be, and the owner probably couldwipe his behind with Jay-Z's
opinion, you know, at that time.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
Okay, breaking news, two things I want to mention.
This one just actually broke.
But one thing I want to mentionbefore I mention this
particular news here Two teamsthat were not on either list, if
y'all noticed this Ready theNew York Giants and the
Philadelphia Eagles.
They just said look, we'regoing to sit this out.

(53:42):
On both sides, we got our ownissues over in New York.

Speaker 3 (53:48):
I was real quiet because I'm like I've seen the
five teams that didn't or thesix teams that didn't.

Speaker 4 (53:56):
What do they mean?
They set it up.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
They was not on any of these lists that I just
quoted.
Whether they didn't actually doit or not do it, they weren't
on any of these lists.
Now the other breaking news,and y'all might be a little bit
upset about this Congress hasjust approved this is October
14th as Charlie Kirk's birthdaya National Day of Remembrance

(54:18):
for Charlie.
So I don't know what we do onthat day, because I do nothing.
I'm telling you that right now.

Speaker 3 (54:26):
But that's crazy yeah .

Speaker 2 (54:28):
It said the Senate passed and the measure
unanimously.
On Thursday was Senator RickScott, republican of Florida,
leading the effort.
He noted that more than 20senators joined him in support
and resolution, which recognizesKirk for his contributions to
civic education and publicservice, and the measure
encourages schools, civic groupsand citizens to mark the day

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nationwide.
House Speaker Mike Johnson saidThursday the chamber would
follow suit and on Friday theHouse approved the resolution.
Nearly 100 Democrats opposed itand Johnson told reporters the
measure not only honored Kirk'slife and work, but also condemns
the political violence that ledto his death, and this is
reported by ABC News.

Speaker 3 (55:10):
They should actually they should be disgusted with
themselves.
I hope, if any any black peopleactually participated and voted
for that.
I hope that their family shunsthem.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
Break the plate at the dinner table.
The whole group.

Speaker 3 (55:29):
Yeah, because where's Breonna?
Taylor's day.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
Where's Trayvon Martin's day, Brother?
You know what?
I could do a whole other showon this right now, but Tom
permits me not to do it.

Speaker 4 (55:46):
But yeah, this is crazy and I am the optimistic
one, you know what I mean ortrying to be the righteous one
in this conversation, man, butyou know, at this point, man and
again I am going to follow itall the way out, but I'll say
this, man, I think Sister Souljust said this one time man,
like we are the good whitepeople we are, it's time for

(56:07):
y'all, the good ones, man, tostand up.
Man, tell me, man.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
That's what I've been saying the whole time.

Speaker 4 (56:13):
I remember watching the thing about Black Lives
Matter and I've got my issueswith that as a whole overall,
looking at the whole Black LivesMatter.
But I remember watching, youknow, black Lives Matter and
seeing like white peopleprotesting with black people and
I was like man that looked good, you know, just watching it
visually, you know what I mean.

(56:34):
It was just a good feeling tosee that.
You know, it wasn't just, itwas equal out there man, you
know, especially in New York andstuff like that man and them
saying, good, white people needto come out, man, and start
stopping this garbage.
Man, I mean, this is a slap inthe face to black people.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
You want to hear something real crazy.
George Floyd's birthday is onOctober 14th.
They should have the samebirthday.

Speaker 4 (56:57):
This is a slap in the face to black people, man.
Forget about all the otherstuff he said was horrible man.
A lot of things he said washorrible, man, but you know a
lot of things he said washorrible.
But the fact that you're gonnasay, like you know, the civil
rights movement was a mistake isis like crazy, bro, crazy.
And then you know I just goingto this guy again man, you think

(57:18):
to yourself white peopledominate america, man, they
dominate it.
How much more do you want todominate it?
How much more?
I mean to see this guy, youwould think that we're winning
Black people not winning in thisAmerica.

(57:39):
Brown people ain't winning inthis America, man, how much more
do y'all want to dominatepeople of color, man?
I mean and I'm not talking toall of y'all, I'm talking to the
ones that really back this guyhow much more do you want to
dominate people, man?

Speaker 2 (57:55):
It's just ridiculous that you even allow this to
happen when you think of so manyfigures that could have got If
you want to give them a NationalDay of Remembrance, that could
have got, you know, if you wantto give them a National Day of
Remembrance.
My question is is like say, ifyou want to do this for civic
matters and schools and all thatjazz, what do you teach them
about Charlie Kirk?
You know like how does this work?
You know what's crazy?
He get a National Day ofRemembrance right.

(58:17):
September 11th happened, whichthey do have a National Day of
Remembrance, but it was not likea national, if you want to call
it a holiday, because peopledied.
But you know what I mean?
That's something that was nevereven thought about to say, well
, let's make that a nationalholiday or you know you're not
giving it to.
You would never see a national.

Speaker 4 (58:36):
Malcolm X Day or something.
You know what I mean.
Listen, man, some people willtalk bad about Malcolm X and
again, I'm not a Muslim.
But let me tell you somethingabout that man.
Malcolm X is a wonderfulAmerican story and I'm going to
tell you why he's a wonderfulAmerican story.
Here's a person that grew up asa hardcore racist, had every
reason to hate white people youknow what I mean and then

(59:00):
somehow went to Mecca, had areligious, you know epiphany, if
you want to say that, and cameback and changed his whole views
in regards to you know how hedeemed white people and stuff
like that, or deemed anybodythat wasn't black.
You know what I mean?
That's a wonderful Americanstory, like you said, and the
fact that he don't have likesome sort of day here, and and

(59:23):
here's the crazy thing aboutMalcolm A lot of y'all refuse to
forget his past exactly, andthat's why I was going to go
with it too.

Speaker 2 (59:29):
You're not gonna.

Speaker 4 (59:30):
You're not gonna let go what he said in the past and
that's what you tend to focus onthe man literally lost his life
, man, because he gave up hisviews, his, his other views that
he had.
I mean.
I mean it's a lot of you knowsticky stuff going on with that
in the background too.

Speaker 3 (59:45):
With everything in history, they do use your past
against you, right?
They use that as a track recordto say the person that you are
or going to be.
So why aren't we justified?
No, so I am justified when Isay that Charlie Kirk is a piece

(01:00:06):
of trash.
Based upon the way that helived and the things that he
said in his history, he's apiece of trash.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
But this piece of trash has got a National Day of
Remembrance, which is crazy.
I won't be celebrating it, ohno, that's something that
Columbus gave to me.

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
I was about to say something real crazy, but I'm
not going to do that.

Speaker 4 (01:00:31):
I'll tell you how much I would hate that day.
I would go to work on that day.
I would go to work.
If it fell on a Monday, I'd goto work.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
You know what's crazy .
If they actually gave you a dayoff for that, that would Listen
.
I hope that day will be filledwith protests and people
standing up against injusticeand things like that.
Don't use it as a day tocelebrate bigotry.

Speaker 3 (01:00:55):
They're not teaching children the history of the
black man in America anymore,but you want to teach them about
Charlie Kirk by giving them anational.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
I just want to see, because the thing here doesn't
go into context.
So I got to do my diligence,since we're about to wrap the
show up, but I got to seeexactly what entails happens on
a National Day of Remembrancefor Charlie Kirk.
What do you do?
What do you do?
I mean because you're not goingto go out here and spread the
rhetoric.
So I mean what do you?

(01:01:26):
Do Break Martin Luther Kingstatues or something Like.
What do you do?
Like you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
That's another thing.

Speaker 4 (01:01:29):
They are re-erecting those Southern statues down here
, Even Trump trying to bringback them racist fort names.
You know what I mean, Like FortBragg.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
I told you man Fort Bragg got the name back.
I don't even know, I didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:01:46):
I saw something where he mentioned everything in the
thing I was watching, but Bragg,so I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
Yeah, they brought it back, man, but they tried to
name it as another Bragg orwhatever, but we already know
what that's about.
Yeah, that's sad, but yeah,guys, I'm going to wrap this one
up, man, it's the good whitepeople man.

Speaker 4 (01:02:02):
Do something good about this man.
Stop, you know, going along toget along man.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
You know what I mean, because this is sad man, and
not even just white people,black and brown people, Black
brown everybody, man, this isinjustice, Because what happens
is something like when I playedthat clip of the comedian Mark
Maron Y'all right behind us.
He gave that.
He gave that.
Take on it, right, yo.
Once we let this one go youknow what I mean Everything else

(01:02:29):
is coming after that man.
You know what?
I mean so it's like every littleinch that you let go, whether
it be like city occupation bythe military national guard, uh,
freedom of speech, I don't care, listen, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:02:45):
Jimmy Kimmel's a Jew.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
Jimmy Kimmel's a Jew Right, but listen and I'm glad
that you mentioned his namebecause I would say this, Like
you said, they were, I guess,having discussions about it
because he went to see hislawyers the other day.
That's probably why they'rehaving a discussion and they
know that this is about to endup having Disney lose revenue if
people really start doing what?
What's the name?
Tatiana Maslany said, Likecanceling that Disney Plus and

(01:03:07):
all that stuff like that.
This is a person who was in aMarvel movie telling you to
cancel it.

Speaker 4 (01:03:10):
I'm canceling mine.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
So it's like it's going to start hitting them in
the pocket Right.
If Jimmy Kimmel and I hope thathe, if he's able to hear this,
and you have some integrityabout you I would tell abc and
disney keep your bag.
I don't want it, you know.
I mean because the integrity ofit is, because, well, I mean
not to cut you off man but it's,the reality tv is dead it's

(01:03:34):
dead.
But I'm dealing in principle,you know.
I mean because it's kind oflike steven carl bear said man,
is that you?
I can't trust you to have myback if something goes left.
When 60 Minutes and CBS paidTrump that back for whatever
happened with that 60 Minutesinterview with Kamala Harris, I
can't trust the organization tohave my back if they're going to

(01:03:55):
do this.

Speaker 4 (01:03:56):
The thing I don't understand with these guys man
is like Camel, stephen A.
Stephen A is the only reasonthat ESPN exists.
Nobody watches ESPN foranything else.
He doesn't know his worth andthe fact that he goes up there
and comb and I have to giveJimmy Kimmel this he stood on
ten toes and did something.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
All of them, all of them, late night cats standing
on ten toes because they know.

Speaker 4 (01:04:22):
This Jigaboo goes in, goes and he's the only reason
that and you know, remember me,I was fighting for Stephen A man
.
You calling him cool before Iwas like man, nah, he's not a
cool.
That dude is up there talkingthis crazy garbage that he's
talking.
He's the only reason thatanybody watches ESPN.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
I don't watch ESPN for nothing else.
He's doing that now because hegot that political show and if
you notice the backdrop of thatshow, they got the White House
and the American flag and allthat man.

Speaker 4 (01:04:52):
when you watch the, comments of that little
monologue that he did forhimself.
It's nothing but a bunch ofracist white conservatives
saying like oh yeah, I didn'tpay attention to you before, but
now I love your show, I'm goingto subscribe.
They want to see you, as anAfrican American, get on there

(01:05:13):
and do all kinds of cooning andflipping and all that other
stuff.
Like that man.
You make him comfortable.

Speaker 3 (01:05:18):
Stephen A is not aggressive, he's not threatening
, he makes white people feelcomfortable.

Speaker 4 (01:05:27):
Not to mention his passion.
I'm just thinking about all thedifferent things that black
athletes have done and he hasripped into them.
Ripped into black athletesabout, you know whatever they
might have done wrong and hemight have been completely right
in most cases or some cases,but the fact, no, I mean I'm not

(01:05:51):
saying there's some cases thatyou know people have done dumb
things as athletes that he wasright on.
But the point that I'm makingis is that you ripped into all
of these people and then thiskid comes up with this situation
and, granted, like I said,nobody wants him to get killed,
but, on the same token, you'renot going to say nothing about
his nasty past.
Man, you crazy man.

Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
Stephen A's past lets you know that he won't, because
he don't have the same energyfor the white athletes as he has
for the black athletes.
When they mess up, the whiteathlete might do something.
You'll never hear him speakabout it with the same type of
ferocity that he speaks aboutwhen a black athlete does
something.

Speaker 4 (01:06:30):
I've seen him stand up on some things coming up.
I've seen some things that hestood up on, but I just don't
know how.
Forget about his.
This is how it's gotten thatbad.
I don't know how he let this go.
Forget about everything else.
You know what I mean.
I'm just saying you know,whether it be white, black,
whoever he got out in the past,this is not something that he

(01:06:50):
should allow to go down likethat.
It doesn't make any sense, man.

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
It, don't?
It don't?
All right, guys?
We truly got to wrap up now,man, but yeah, man.
I got to tell you this last fewminutes with this whole
national thing threw me off.

Speaker 4 (01:07:05):
It hurts, it hurts man.

Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
I'm going to go wrap this up right now Just on a good
note, though I want to end offon a really good note.
I want to thank everybody whohas recently subscribed to the
channel.
That last I like to call itconversation that we had, you
know, a lot of engagement andthat's what we encourage, and I
know I don't have the brothershandle up right now, but it was

(01:07:33):
a person who during that time,he had made a comment saying
like it was some.
It was a comment that he postedand he thought that we deleted
the comment and we didn't.
And I reached out to him.
We don't delete comments on theshow, whether they good or bad,
whether they for us or againstus, even if you criticize us as
people.
Man, I'm not deleting anycomments here or whatever.

(01:07:53):
He went back.
It was something that YouTubedid, and so if anybody do post
comments, youtube is having, waswas having some type of issue
where I wasn't even seeing thecomments come up and they would
pop up later, and so for thatparticular person again, I don't
have your handle on me at thismoment, but they did come back
and apologize, even if theydidn't agree with what we were

(01:08:15):
saying.
It's like now.
You know, made a publicstatement saying that this
channel don't delete comments,and all like that.
So I want to say shout out tothem Case handled it pretty good
, man.
Also, all of the conversationthat went back and forth in the
chats, man, you know that's whatit's about.
It's about having aconversation, whether we agree

(01:08:35):
or disagree.
You know what I mean.
So we want to encourage y'allto keep that same energy when we
drop this one, right, yeah, man.
So yeah, just a takeaway y'allOctober 14th, they saying that's
Charlie Kirk National Day ofRemembrance.
Please Do remember what he said.

Speaker 4 (01:09:01):
That's what you do Get you a nice piece of
watermelon.

Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
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Speaker 4 (01:10:10):
Time to get some watermelon and coons on Charlie
Clark Day.