September 13, 2023 • 18 mins
Interview with Sam R from Swampy State Mycology
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(00:00):
Anything that has to do with high CBD medicinal products from cannabis, we do it all.
(00:10):
Broadcasting live from Mt. Clement, Michigan, this is Only the Best Herbs with Ryan Boulda.
I just wanted to create a show and a community where you could be yourself
and learn about all natural medicine.
(00:32):
There is some with mushrooms. This is something very fascinating.
Even non-psychoactive mushrooms, there's definitely, I feel like a human connection to them,
which is very strange to say. I can't say that about cannabis.
Because the wild cannabis is fun, it's never really made me go inside my mind.
(01:02):
Because even the bad chips I've had, I used to hear it and I didn't understand it.
Even the bad chips I've had were bad chips. It was my inner self telling me,
you are lucking up and you need to get your shit together.
Yeah, pretty much. What's going on everybody? It's Ryan here with CBD surgeons and surgeons.
Today, we got a good show for you. I'm here with Sam Rich from Swampy State Mycology.
(01:30):
We're going to pour some agar plates. We're going to do some grain to grain transfers.
We're also going to do some plate transfers as well, plate to grain.
Without further ado, we got Sam here. I'm going to let him take it away.
(01:52):
All right, I think we're about it.
All right, so we're swirling. We're checking. We're at 110. That's exactly where I wanted to be.
So take the lid off and just get the corn. I like to stack them. I can only do about 10 high.
(02:15):
It just makes it a little more efficient, a little quicker moving.
Yeah, because if you don't pour fast enough, what happens is this turns all chunky on you.
And then, I mean, it still works, but it's not going to be pretty. And you're sure as hell,
I'm not going to have to even grow. All right. How long do you think you got?
(02:35):
What do you mean? For this? I don't know. I've never really timed it. I'd say
I just try to work as fast as I can. Usually, I try to get this bottle in five minutes or less.
Usually, I'm a bit more frugal with the pour just because I try to make it as many places I can
(02:58):
out of it. But for the purpose of scientific research, we're just going to get the pour going.
No, it's looking good. You want to stir it throughout.
Keep anything on the sides from coagulating to your bottle.
You want to keep it moving basically the whole time.
(03:22):
Yeah, it can sit. It can sit. It's not the end of the world, but it's a good habit to just keep it
moving. For sure.
The beautiful thing is, one time I made up a jar of
agar and something happened, had to run out of the house, couldn't do it right then. So it all
(03:47):
hardened up in a jar. Come find out. All you got to do is reheat it. So that's a fun little fact.
Just throw it back in the pressure cooker.
Throw it right back in the pressure cooker and redo the process.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Whenever you pour, you want to make sure that they have five to seven days of incubation
period. We got a little left over here. I'm not going to sweat it too much. Really cheap to make.
(04:12):
I'll let them cool. I'll let them, sometimes I'll let them sit here overnight. And as they sit,
these underneath here, they'll be all pretty clear whenever they come out. These on top,
you can put warm cups of water or whatever on top and that'll keep this condensation from just
sitting there. But you leave them here cool. Once they cool, wrap them up. Takes probably 20,
(04:37):
30 minutes for it to stiffen up so you can move it around. So for now, those are out of sight out
of mind. So now we got some agar poured three to five days. That cools off right. We get them
inoculated. We grow up, start growing out the mycelium. Mycelium turns into what a lot of people
(05:04):
refer to as colonized plate or partly colonized plate. What Sam's going to demonstrate,
Sam's going to demonstrate taking that plate and adding it to some sterilized grain to where you
have multiple inoculation points. And he's the expert here. So I'll let him explain.
(05:27):
For the pressure cooker for chance, I hadn't before I did this.
I have. It's not something I'm very fluent in. I made my first batch of agar last week.
And it didn't exactly go 100% according to plan. I need better...
(05:48):
You know, I'm not trying to make a bunch of mistakes, basically, is what I'm saying.
Yeah, I'm a great time and energy and money suppressing.
But however, I am ready to go here. I'm excited to do the 338.
Yeah, that was fun. It didn't produce a whole ton of fruits, but you saw they were
(06:12):
really big chompers. And that's really what I was looking for. That's the whole point of the 338.
Isolation from... I got it from Scorswallow, but the 338 is an isolation of a
bone, excuse me, rather, of a 338 gram fruit. So... Wow, 338?
(06:32):
Yeah, there's some monsters out there, dude. There's some freaking monsters out there.
That's a good shot.
All right, it took the entire video, but we're taking it out.
Only 40 minutes.
Yeah, we're gonna spray our little doohickeys.
(06:55):
We're already sprayed and wiped down our bags.
I'm gonna cut off the top here.
I'm gonna take my plate, I'm gonna cut it in checkerboards.
Okay, checkerboard style.
Yeah, nice chunky bits.
And I'm just gonna go ahead and toss the bowl, play it in there, get it colonized a little quicker.
(07:26):
Yeah, because it's got some more of my helium in there to work with. So the idea is that
the more inoculation points, the faster she's gonna spray.
Okay.
(07:47):
Okay.
Bring our sealer out.
(08:08):
Nice.
So is that vacuum seal?
Yeah, it does have the vacuum seal option. You don't want to vacuum seal all of this
is going on because it needs oxygen. It's gonna breathe in like us and expel the carbon dioxide.
(08:29):
So this little patch, even if you didn't vacuum seal it, this patch here is a point to micron
filter. It's gonna allow air in the right and we'll flip it, give it another quick little
just for extra little piece of finds.
A lot of this for me is doing whatever I can to have a little extra piece of mine.
(08:50):
Oh yeah. That's what it is. It's half the battle, man.
Okay.
So
(09:22):
we got our I don't know if you're gonna really see it throughout here.
It's a bad bar.
So then once this is about 30 to 50% colonized, we'll bust it up and then every single one of
(09:44):
these grains will be spread around as an inoculation point and kickstart the process.
Hopefully within a week after the break 10 days and get to the colonized brain done.
So you turn that one bag into 10 bags? Oh yeah for sure.
(10:11):
Look at the slant bag that's also already been wiped down and sanitized.
I'm gonna do a little bit of a grain to grain inoculation.
So kind of a quick side note while he gets that all together.
A grain to grain transfer is when you take a sterilized bag of grain, open it up and add
(10:35):
a bag of a colonized bag. You know, you break it up a little bit right. You take
a little bit of that and you add it to sterilized grain. And right now,
Sam is going to demonstrate that and talk about that a little bit more.
All right my bad. Thank you.
Right, colonized solid.
(10:59):
So I'm just going to bust this up a little bit. I've got some sub going so I'll be putting
this to vote a little later on. Now I'm going to go ahead and bust it up.
That's busting up well enough to me at this point. I really only need a little bit out of this.
(11:19):
Now out of this compound bag, the idea behind this is you could take just half a handful of
this bag and split it between however many bags that I'll run you. Let's say it's 20, 30 bags.
This one bag, grain to grain inoculation can turn into multiple. That's what the
(11:39):
mushroom problem is for. That's how they, that's how they swell it all out really quick and get the
product playing bold.
Okay this guy down I didn't do that already.
Get that out of the ball and wipe it down with a little pre-sist.
(12:01):
This is probably an
emergency to oohs.
veterinary treatment.
The
map.
Satellite screenback.
(12:26):
We'll go the long way.
Uh huh.
Just a little bit in there is what we're going to go with this round.
It's like a half a handful basically.
He's what you said.
I'm following my thing.
(12:47):
I'm going to seal these up.
Get this one we just inoculated a good shake.
Label it and set it and then we'll check them all check all these bags here in about a week or so.
Oh yeah, we're definitely going to be checking them in about a week or so.
We're going to have progress reports and everything.
We're legit going to follow you.
(13:08):
We're going to follow your ass everywhere bro.
All right, we got our double seal for extra surf.
And it's all sealed up.
Now if we're going to air come out of there, I wiped it all off so I don't relabel shock.
Fill this guy up.
(13:29):
Do the same thing and that's a wrap.
Now we just sit back and wait.
Uh huh.
Hurry up and wait.
Hurry up and wait.
I think you're the one who said that to me.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because each little thing of course it's exciting and I don't want to take that away from anybody.
It's still exciting.
I've been doing it for six months or so now.
(13:51):
It's still so exciting.
But the waiting in between really pulls that shit.
It reconnects things in your brain.
I swear to God, just like the mycelium grows out.
I swear like mycelium grows in your brain or something dude.
Just reconnect some things in your brain.
(14:13):
Oh shit.
That has to.
You know I heard something interesting on a documentary yesterday, the psychedelic documentary.
And you know the PSP, RSC, we are all one whatever whatever the whole thing comes to.
(14:34):
This lady was like, she was like, you know, we're a we're a little mushroom, we're a little fungi.
That's how we're all connected.
We died where we go in the dirt.
Right.
She's like, so we go in the dirt.
We come back as mushrooms.
Oh yeah.
That makes no sense I guess.
All right.
I appreciate everyone stopping by this week.
(14:57):
I know it's kind of a little bit of a quick one, quick but educational right.
I hope this helps somebody in their microbial journey.
Feel free to reach out to either myself or Sam.
If you want to learn more about mycology, be sure to join our mycology group, Swapisate Mycology.
(15:21):
Sam and I are the admins and mods of the group.
More than happy to help you out.
We got events happening.
We got a lot of cool stuff in the works.
So stop by next week.
We have another microbial based business that is about to launch.
(15:43):
I'm going to talk to her.
It is called the Red Squirrel Mycology and she's a biochemist.
She's really cool.
I call her a microscopic hero.
We'll talk to her next week and until then, we'll talk soon.
(16:05):
You'll see me soon.
The business first.
Okay.
We have a range of products.
We do edibles.
We do topicals.
We have products for pets.
Carry products like vaporizers as well.
But the oils, broadband.
(16:28):
There are so many different types of products.
You have products that you can add to your drinks.
Sounds great.
You were talking before on Ron Cameron's sports talk show about sleeping.
A lot of people have sleeping.
They can't get to sleep or have trouble sleeping.
What do you recommend for a product that can help them with sleeping?
(16:50):
What we normally do is we have a product called CBN.
What CBN does is it's a mild sedative.
It's about 25% as potent as THC.
It's got slightly psychoactive properties to it.
(17:14):
Nothing that's going to...
I wouldn't even say it's comparable to THC at all.
It's more of a relaxing feeling.
It's what we recommend for sleep because it's not intense.
It kind of eases as you into a sleep,
opposed to some sleeping medications where it hits you all at once and you're just out.
(17:38):
CBN kind of gently puts you back into that sleep.
It helps you stay asleep.
Yeah, it helps you stay asleep,
but one of the more important aspects to it, the CBN and the CBD working together,
is...
I'm going to get ahead of myself a little bit,
but it's called the entourage effect.
(18:01):
The entourage effect is cannabis specific.
It is when two or three more of cannabinoids...
basically any compound from the cannabis plant is what we refer to as a cannabinoid.
So whenever three or more is used,
(18:23):
and what happens is what people think actually is they work in unison with each other.
It's more of like a synergy effect,
and it amplifies the medicinal properties as well as some of the physical,
and the anti-vaxating parts as well.
So our products are tailored to be,
(18:45):
for people who are suffering and just looking for relief.
Anything that has to do with high CBD medicinal products from cannabis, we do it all.
(00:10):
Broadcasting live from Mt. Clement, Michigan, this is Only the Best Herbs with Ryan Boulda.
I just wanted to create a show and a community where you could be yourself
and learn about all natural medicine.
(00:32):
There is some with mushrooms. This is something very fascinating.
Even non-psychoactive mushrooms, there's definitely, I feel like a human connection to them,
which is very strange to say. I can't say that about cannabis.
Because the wild cannabis is fun, it's never really made me go inside my mind.
(01:02):
Because even the bad chips I've had, I used to hear it and I didn't understand it.
Even the bad chips I've had were bad chips. It was my inner self telling me,
you are lucking up and you need to get your shit together.
Yeah, pretty much. What's going on everybody? It's Ryan here with CBD surgeons and surgeons.
Today, we got a good show for you. I'm here with Sam Rich from Swampy State Mycology.
(01:30):
We're going to pour some agar plates. We're going to do some grain to grain transfers.
We're also going to do some plate transfers as well, plate to grain.
Without further ado, we got Sam here. I'm going to let him take it away.
(01:52):
All right, I think we're about it.
All right, so we're swirling. We're checking. We're at 110. That's exactly where I wanted to be.
So take the lid off and just get the corn. I like to stack them. I can only do about 10 high.
(02:15):
It just makes it a little more efficient, a little quicker moving.
Yeah, because if you don't pour fast enough, what happens is this turns all chunky on you.
And then, I mean, it still works, but it's not going to be pretty. And you're sure as hell,
I'm not going to have to even grow. All right. How long do you think you got?
(02:35):
What do you mean? For this? I don't know. I've never really timed it. I'd say
I just try to work as fast as I can. Usually, I try to get this bottle in five minutes or less.
Usually, I'm a bit more frugal with the pour just because I try to make it as many places I can
(02:58):
out of it. But for the purpose of scientific research, we're just going to get the pour going.
No, it's looking good. You want to stir it throughout.
Keep anything on the sides from coagulating to your bottle.
You want to keep it moving basically the whole time.
(03:22):
Yeah, it can sit. It can sit. It's not the end of the world, but it's a good habit to just keep it
moving. For sure.
The beautiful thing is, one time I made up a jar of
agar and something happened, had to run out of the house, couldn't do it right then. So it all
(03:47):
hardened up in a jar. Come find out. All you got to do is reheat it. So that's a fun little fact.
Just throw it back in the pressure cooker.
Throw it right back in the pressure cooker and redo the process.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Whenever you pour, you want to make sure that they have five to seven days of incubation
period. We got a little left over here. I'm not going to sweat it too much. Really cheap to make.
(04:12):
I'll let them cool. I'll let them, sometimes I'll let them sit here overnight. And as they sit,
these underneath here, they'll be all pretty clear whenever they come out. These on top,
you can put warm cups of water or whatever on top and that'll keep this condensation from just
sitting there. But you leave them here cool. Once they cool, wrap them up. Takes probably 20,
(04:37):
30 minutes for it to stiffen up so you can move it around. So for now, those are out of sight out
of mind. So now we got some agar poured three to five days. That cools off right. We get them
inoculated. We grow up, start growing out the mycelium. Mycelium turns into what a lot of people
(05:04):
refer to as colonized plate or partly colonized plate. What Sam's going to demonstrate,
Sam's going to demonstrate taking that plate and adding it to some sterilized grain to where you
have multiple inoculation points. And he's the expert here. So I'll let him explain.
(05:27):
For the pressure cooker for chance, I hadn't before I did this.
I have. It's not something I'm very fluent in. I made my first batch of agar last week.
And it didn't exactly go 100% according to plan. I need better...
(05:48):
You know, I'm not trying to make a bunch of mistakes, basically, is what I'm saying.
Yeah, I'm a great time and energy and money suppressing.
But however, I am ready to go here. I'm excited to do the 338.
Yeah, that was fun. It didn't produce a whole ton of fruits, but you saw they were
(06:12):
really big chompers. And that's really what I was looking for. That's the whole point of the 338.
Isolation from... I got it from Scorswallow, but the 338 is an isolation of a
bone, excuse me, rather, of a 338 gram fruit. So... Wow, 338?
(06:32):
Yeah, there's some monsters out there, dude. There's some freaking monsters out there.
That's a good shot.
All right, it took the entire video, but we're taking it out.
Only 40 minutes.
Yeah, we're gonna spray our little doohickeys.
(06:55):
We're already sprayed and wiped down our bags.
I'm gonna cut off the top here.
I'm gonna take my plate, I'm gonna cut it in checkerboards.
Okay, checkerboard style.
Yeah, nice chunky bits.
And I'm just gonna go ahead and toss the bowl, play it in there, get it colonized a little quicker.
(07:26):
Yeah, because it's got some more of my helium in there to work with. So the idea is that
the more inoculation points, the faster she's gonna spray.
Okay.
(07:47):
Okay.
Bring our sealer out.
(08:08):
Nice.
So is that vacuum seal?
Yeah, it does have the vacuum seal option. You don't want to vacuum seal all of this
is going on because it needs oxygen. It's gonna breathe in like us and expel the carbon dioxide.
(08:29):
So this little patch, even if you didn't vacuum seal it, this patch here is a point to micron
filter. It's gonna allow air in the right and we'll flip it, give it another quick little
just for extra little piece of finds.
A lot of this for me is doing whatever I can to have a little extra piece of mine.
(08:50):
Oh yeah. That's what it is. It's half the battle, man.
Okay.
So
(09:22):
we got our I don't know if you're gonna really see it throughout here.
It's a bad bar.
So then once this is about 30 to 50% colonized, we'll bust it up and then every single one of
(09:44):
these grains will be spread around as an inoculation point and kickstart the process.
Hopefully within a week after the break 10 days and get to the colonized brain done.
So you turn that one bag into 10 bags? Oh yeah for sure.
(10:11):
Look at the slant bag that's also already been wiped down and sanitized.
I'm gonna do a little bit of a grain to grain inoculation.
So kind of a quick side note while he gets that all together.
A grain to grain transfer is when you take a sterilized bag of grain, open it up and add
(10:35):
a bag of a colonized bag. You know, you break it up a little bit right. You take
a little bit of that and you add it to sterilized grain. And right now,
Sam is going to demonstrate that and talk about that a little bit more.
All right my bad. Thank you.
Right, colonized solid.
(10:59):
So I'm just going to bust this up a little bit. I've got some sub going so I'll be putting
this to vote a little later on. Now I'm going to go ahead and bust it up.
That's busting up well enough to me at this point. I really only need a little bit out of this.
(11:19):
Now out of this compound bag, the idea behind this is you could take just half a handful of
this bag and split it between however many bags that I'll run you. Let's say it's 20, 30 bags.
This one bag, grain to grain inoculation can turn into multiple. That's what the
(11:39):
mushroom problem is for. That's how they, that's how they swell it all out really quick and get the
product playing bold.
Okay this guy down I didn't do that already.
Get that out of the ball and wipe it down with a little pre-sist.
(12:01):
This is probably an
emergency to oohs.
veterinary treatment.
The
map.
Satellite screenback.
(12:26):
We'll go the long way.
Uh huh.
Just a little bit in there is what we're going to go with this round.
It's like a half a handful basically.
He's what you said.
I'm following my thing.
(12:47):
I'm going to seal these up.
Get this one we just inoculated a good shake.
Label it and set it and then we'll check them all check all these bags here in about a week or so.
Oh yeah, we're definitely going to be checking them in about a week or so.
We're going to have progress reports and everything.
We're legit going to follow you.
(13:08):
We're going to follow your ass everywhere bro.
All right, we got our double seal for extra surf.
And it's all sealed up.
Now if we're going to air come out of there, I wiped it all off so I don't relabel shock.
Fill this guy up.
(13:29):
Do the same thing and that's a wrap.
Now we just sit back and wait.
Uh huh.
Hurry up and wait.
Hurry up and wait.
I think you're the one who said that to me.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because each little thing of course it's exciting and I don't want to take that away from anybody.
It's still exciting.
I've been doing it for six months or so now.
(13:51):
It's still so exciting.
But the waiting in between really pulls that shit.
It reconnects things in your brain.
I swear to God, just like the mycelium grows out.
I swear like mycelium grows in your brain or something dude.
Just reconnect some things in your brain.
(14:13):
Oh shit.
That has to.
You know I heard something interesting on a documentary yesterday, the psychedelic documentary.
And you know the PSP, RSC, we are all one whatever whatever the whole thing comes to.
(14:34):
This lady was like, she was like, you know, we're a we're a little mushroom, we're a little fungi.
That's how we're all connected.
We died where we go in the dirt.
Right.
She's like, so we go in the dirt.
We come back as mushrooms.
Oh yeah.
That makes no sense I guess.
All right.
I appreciate everyone stopping by this week.
(14:57):
I know it's kind of a little bit of a quick one, quick but educational right.
I hope this helps somebody in their microbial journey.
Feel free to reach out to either myself or Sam.
If you want to learn more about mycology, be sure to join our mycology group, Swapisate Mycology.
(15:21):
Sam and I are the admins and mods of the group.
More than happy to help you out.
We got events happening.
We got a lot of cool stuff in the works.
So stop by next week.
We have another microbial based business that is about to launch.
(15:43):
I'm going to talk to her.
It is called the Red Squirrel Mycology and she's a biochemist.
She's really cool.
I call her a microscopic hero.
We'll talk to her next week and until then, we'll talk soon.
(16:05):
You'll see me soon.
The business first.
Okay.
We have a range of products.
We do edibles.
We do topicals.
We have products for pets.
Carry products like vaporizers as well.
But the oils, broadband.
(16:28):
There are so many different types of products.
You have products that you can add to your drinks.
Sounds great.
You were talking before on Ron Cameron's sports talk show about sleeping.
A lot of people have sleeping.
They can't get to sleep or have trouble sleeping.
What do you recommend for a product that can help them with sleeping?
(16:50):
What we normally do is we have a product called CBN.
What CBN does is it's a mild sedative.
It's about 25% as potent as THC.
It's got slightly psychoactive properties to it.
(17:14):
Nothing that's going to...
I wouldn't even say it's comparable to THC at all.
It's more of a relaxing feeling.
It's what we recommend for sleep because it's not intense.
It kind of eases as you into a sleep,
opposed to some sleeping medications where it hits you all at once and you're just out.
(17:38):
CBN kind of gently puts you back into that sleep.
It helps you stay asleep.
Yeah, it helps you stay asleep,
but one of the more important aspects to it, the CBN and the CBD working together,
is...
I'm going to get ahead of myself a little bit,
but it's called the entourage effect.
(18:01):
The entourage effect is cannabis specific.
It is when two or three more of cannabinoids...
basically any compound from the cannabis plant is what we refer to as a cannabinoid.
So whenever three or more is used,
(18:23):
and what happens is what people think actually is they work in unison with each other.
It's more of like a synergy effect,
and it amplifies the medicinal properties as well as some of the physical,
and the anti-vaxating parts as well.
So our products are tailored to be,
(18:45):
for people who are suffering and just looking for relief.
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