February 14, 2025 • 36 mins
This week on the Open Seat, we’re joined by Father Pat McDaid, SM, who shares his inspiring journey of faith and vocation as a Marianist Priest. From his beginnings in Adrian to his current ministry in San Antonio, Father Pat reflects on the key examples and influences that guided his path to the priesthood. He also offers valuable advice on how to pray for and support those discerning any vocation. Don’t miss Father Pat’s contagious joy and wisdom.
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Fr. Pat (00:00):
Is any saint perfect?
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No, but here's the thingThere's not a single
saint without a past and nota single sinner without a
future that's life right thereThat's what we're
called to embrace.
That's why our faithis so amazing.
If we can inspire others to wantto be a saint We're
doing something, right?
Katie (00:15):
Welcome to Open Seat, the podcast where we
create a space for authenticconversations about faith,
unfiltered and unapologetic.
Here, we believe thatevery story matters.
Whether you're questioning,seeking, or steadfast in
your beliefs, you'll findsomething relatable in
these heartfelt discussions.
(00:37):
So grab your seat, getcomfortable, and let's dive
into today's story here atOpen Seat.
So today in the Open Seat,we are blessed to have
Father Pat McDaid, SM.
Fr. Pat (00:51):
SM, Society of Mary.
Katie (00:53):
Yeah! So, welcome home, first of all.
Fr. Pat (00:55):
It's great to be back in the 49221.
Katie (00:59):
So, where are you at these days?
Fr. Pat (01:01):
So, I'm in San Antonio, Texas.
And I'm at CentralCatholic High School.
All Boys High School.
About a mile from the Alamo.
Katie (01:09):
Oh, and the Alamo is such a, such a beloved spot.
Fr. Pat (01:12):
Special.
I mean, it's stilla Catholic Church.
We had the medal ofhonor, conference
there this past year.
And we had an amazingprayer service for these
heroes that have been liftedup by their sacrifice,
by their heroic actions.
Not all died, and we had34 living that came down.
We had a ceremonyat the Alamo and, of
course, all around town.
And, and our school, CentralCatholic, we have a Staff
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Sergeant Bordelin, just a heroof the school, graduated from
Central before World War II.
Joined the Marines,died in the Battle of
Tarawa, and, his Medal ofHonor is in our school.
So, his family, the Bordelonfamily, we have relatives
in the school now, andthey came to our school.
We had a huge evening and adinner, part of the gala to
celebrate these amazing men.
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I was surprised howmany are Catholic.
Katie (01:58):
Oh, really?
Fr. Pat (01:59):
You know, because the military takes everybody,
All faiths, all walks oflife, but, meeting the living
recipients that were visitingour school as part of the
convocation or the, you know,the whole, the whole events
conference, many were Catholic.
It's really, it'sreally neat to see.
Katie (02:13):
Yeah.
You have a big affinityfor the military.
Fr. Pat (02:15):
I love the military.
Katie (02:17):
Where did that start?
Fr. Pat (02:18):
I think just growing up, we always
had that respect.
My grandpa was a tailgunner on a B 17.
.And my grandpa, thatwas my grandpa Bromeyer
on my mom's side.
My dad's side, my grandpa McDaidwas an engineer and helped
with I think the Shermantank developing the turret
because he knew calculus.
And so we have this historyof supporting the military.
And then a lot of myfriends from Adrian
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went in the military.
A lot of my fellowstudents, when I went to
the Harvard of the Midwest,University at Dayton,
went to the military,they were ROTC program.
And some of the schoolsI've taught at through my
Marianist life have hadROTC, Junior ROTC programs.
And I just lovesupporting the military.
When I was in Hawaii, I helpedout, with the Chaplaincy
Corps at, Schofield Barracks,and I got to say Mass at
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Schofield, Alimanu MilitaryReservation, Tripler, Army
Hospital, it was just amazing.
These are the best people,and talk about a gift to
our country, and so manyamazing Catholics that you
can see them putting theirfaith into action, serving
our country, raising amazing,hopefully vocations for our
sisters, for our brothers,priests, for the church.
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I love the military.
Katie (03:23):
So you said you're a hometown boy.
49221. All right.
So you grew up in Adrian.
Well, tell us alittle bit about it.
Fr. Pat (03:30):
So growing up two brothers,
two sisters, my mom anddad are still here in
Adrian and I loved it.
I loved it because whenyou're growing up, that's all
your experience is, right?
I thought everybody waslike the life I lived.
Went to Lincoln Elementaryand then went to Drager Middle
Schooland then Adrian High School
had phenomenal teachers.
Back then we had Saint Joe's andSaint Mary's.
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So the priest that I had Iremember just amazing men.
We had Father Williams.
We had of course FatherLouie Komorowski here at
Saint Mary's
Katie (03:58):
Both of them have halls named after them.
Fr. Pat (04:00):
Isn't that amazing?
I don't need a hallafter me let's not get crazy.
but butFather Al Father Al was one
of my favorite Oblate andFather Al Russell, he was
the one, whenever I say theEucharistic prayer one, with
all the saints, I said, Iwant to become like Father Al.
Linus, Cletus, Clement,Sixtus, Cornelius,
Lawrence, Christogamous,John, Paul, Cosmas, Damian, I'm
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going on and on and onand I said, That's what
it's about, living theCatholic life, embracing the
sacraments, so we can be likeone of these we mentioned.
And that was Father Al, hewould get a bounce in his
step, he would light up,smile, it didn't matter if he
was saying Mass at St. Joe's,St. Mary's, out at the Irish
Hills, you know, he said,or, do you still have
Mass at the cemeteries?
Katie (04:42):
I know Memorial Day we definitely do.
And then they blessedthe graves after.
Fr. Pat (04:46):
Sure, and, and I remember as Boy
Scouts we'd put flags onthe veterans headstones.
And that was mygrowing up in Adrian.
It was a life of faith, alife of great examples of
course my parents, how couldI not mention my parents?
My mom and
Katie (04:57):
Did you have as a teacher?
Fr. Pat (04:58):
I did, I had my dad for American History.
And it was a great experiencebecause of course I knew
I had a little advantage.
I knew history from my dad,all the stories growing up.
And, I remember one ofmy friends, she asked one
time, she's like, Does yourson get a pass, or does
he really know this stuff?
And she's like, ask him.
So the whole class,instead of my dad teaching
all the students, my, myfellow peers asked me the
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questions, and they're like,how do you know all this?
I said, it's in my DNA.
It's It's my DNA.
I got it.
My dad is a master teacher.
it's in his DNA, andwe learned it from the
earliest moments, fromfirst, breaths growing
up, and we were, wewere immersed with that.
You know, dad taught at AdrianHigh School for, I
think, 43 years, wenton to teach another
Seven or eight.
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substituting.
And I mean, what a career.
Katie (05:44):
And taking numerous kids to D. C.
Fr. Pat (05:46):
D. C. Teaching summer school and night school.
I think he taught theprisoners G. E. D. at times.
And as a family, we'd have a twoweek vacation.
But we'd go camping.
So we'd go up to YoungState Park.
And those memories,too, because that was
the time together.
Still to this day, my brothersand sisters all love camping
because of those memoriesgrowing up and the
traditions we had.
Katie (06:07):
So family, you have your mom, your dad, and
then how many siblings?
Fr. Pat (06:11):
So, I have two brothers, two sisters.
John's no longer with us,but Ann Marie's the oldest.
And then she's married toDave, who's an amazing guy.
They're down in Ohio.
Katie and Sean.
Katie is in Cincinnati.
Sean, my brother in law,another amazing guy.
So, I love my brothers in law.
They're amazing.
Ryan and Becky, andthey have two kids.
So, my niece andnephew, Reed and Riley,
are down in Orlando.
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We get to see them.
For example, the nicething about teaching in the
school is even us priests,we get spring break.
And so one of the traditionsis we get to go to visit
Ryan in Florida, and maybe ifwe're lucky hit a cruise on,
a few of those days, becausethat's the place to go.
If you want to hit theCaribbean islands, of course,
you know, what's nice is whenthat does happen as a priest,
I bring my basket becauseall of these workers that are
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from numerous other countriesthey used to have chaplains on
board, but they don't anymoreSo to have an opportunity to
hear confessions to say Massfor these, you know, maybe
a couple thousand workers.
That's a real special gift.
I try whenever I travelI try and bring my Mass
kit because you never know whoyou're going to run into that
you can say listen, we cancelebrate the Mass right here.
with boy scouts, when Iwas in Hawaii, we had the
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Catholic committee on scoutingand we went to Philmont
on the top of the toothwe hiked up there one morning
as the sun was coming up.
We celebrated Mass withthese Catholic scouts.
Hopefully that we'reconsidering a vocation.
It was called theSt. George trek.
They still havethat to this day.
And, you know, I figureany effort to increase
and promote and, and makevisible, what a great life.
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So you mentioned growing up inAdrian, let me tell you about
the sisters who raised mebecause it wasn't just family.
It wasn't just mom anddad and my brothers and
sisters, it was also sisterfaith and sister Annette.
So these Adrian Dominicans,the Adrian Dominicans
are amazing women.
They are unbelievable.
And we had two of the best.
Not only were they sisters of
Katie (08:01):
sisters In Blood.
Fr. Pat (08:02):
In blood.
Right.
But religious sisters, sothey had a two for one.
Well, so theyraised us at over at St. Joe's
and it was amazing.
I think I started servingMass a little earlier
than I was scheduled tobecause of maybe my
behavior in the pew.
And Sister Annette I think,tried ripping my ear off
my head and she dragged mebehind in a sacristy and
said, it's time to serve.
I said, Sister, I haven'tgone through training.
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She goes, you'll learn fast.
Everyone's watching.
And I thought, I like this.
I like being on the altar.
I love serving.
This is amazing.
Front row seat,best seat in town.
Well.
Here's the story.
You just, I haveto share with you.
Confirmation.
So fast forward to highschool, I had fallen in love.
Every time I wanted togo to Mass, I wanted
to serve because youreally are the closest to
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the consecration andJesus right there.
I loved it.
Well, confirmation, we gothrough, you know, high
school years, you go throughthe, the catechesis and
we had volunteers and manyteachers that helped us
deepen our love of the faith.
So sister Annetteand Sister Faith.
They decided for the Saturdaynight Mass and then the
Sunday Masses, they wouldpass out little doves that
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cut out in paper.
And so they cut out,I don't know how many
months they spent cuttingout thousands of doves.
And they write, we hadmaybe a couple dozen,
18, 24, somewhere about,confimandi they wrote
all of our names on, on,let's say, 1, 500 or so.
them out at mass.
put it in the collection basket.
People love that when youdon't have to put money in but
you can pull something out.
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You know, that's
Katie (09:28):
Not making change in the basket.
Fr. Pat (09:30):
That's always a blessing, right?
So, people are all excited.
Instead of a second collectionwhere you put more money in
the basket, they actuallyget to reach in and pull a
name out and you'd see whosename was on that dove and
then you would pray for them.
You know, and the the timeleading up to confirmation
when Bishop Pavish wouldcome and confirm us.
Well, I served that massand Sister Annette after
at the end of Mass, shesays, Patrick, I'm not
going to draw a name.
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She goes, I'm goingto pray for you that
you become a priest.
Now at this time, I stillloved saying Mass or
not saying mass serving Mass.
I
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I
Fr. Pat (10:00):
wasn't there yet.
I still, but I didn'tsee myself saying
Mass as a priest.
I'm like, sister, you know,I'm not sure what,
chance there is ofme becoming a priest.
I mean, an Ice cube mighthave a chance you know where
Katie (10:13):
better than, better than Pat McDaid
becoming a priest.
Fr. Pat (10:16):
Sister faith was undeterred she's like
no i'm gonna pray for youto become a priest I said I
recommend you draw a name.
She reaches in and grabs my name
Katie (10:24):
Oh.
Fr. Pat (10:25):
I wasn't content with that.
I said, oh, I knowwhat you did every
one of those is mine.
I'm that vocation you'vebeen praying for that you let
people know you're passingout everybody's name, but
they're all praying for me andyou're praying for me, aren't
you?
She looks at me like, howare you making this up?
And she goes, well, if youwant me to draw another
name, but I guaranteethey're not yours.
So the next 10 namesI pulled out, not a
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single one was mine.
I'm like, at that moment Isaid with my family supporting
vocation with sister Faithand Sister Annette praying
for me to become a priest.
I said, it's justa matter of time.
So I graduated, I wasconfirmed, graduated
from Adrian, went toDayton, studied political
science and history.
And then at the end ofmy senior year, or my
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senior year I did whatwas called the aspirancy.
Where you live with thecommunity, you pray with
the community, you discern,you know, is this a life
I'm being called to?
have been one of the fewtimes in my life I got a 4.
0.
Katie (11:18):
Really?
Yup,
Fr. Pat (11:19):
it was and I said this is a sign
from the Holy Spirit.
But of course I wanted toconfirm so I said let's see
what happens second semester.
Sure enough.
Sure enough, 4.
0 The conversations, themorning prayer evening
prayer night prayer Masseveryday, meals together
,Breakfast, lunch, dinner.
It was just such a blessingI confirmed the vocation
The holy spirit was callingme to so I went to the
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novitiate, spiritual bootcamp.
So we went, it wasn't thatfar away, maybe 10 miles from
the University of Dayton.
We went to whatwas called Bergamo.
And, for 12 months, westudied the vows of poverty,
celibacy, obedience.
we learned new styles of prayer.
And we had one daywhere we did volunteer
work in ministry.
But it was a it's a greatyear a lot of prayer a lot of
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silence not really apostolicBut we had a beautiful
grotto right next to theproperty that was similar
to the one in Notre Dame So,you know, you're at home.
You're you're you're in heaven.
And then I took my firstvows and it was history I
was I was trying to thinkbecause I thought you
might ask on the way over.
How long have youbeen a religious?
Katie (12:19):
Well, that's a good question.
Fr. Pat (12:20):
I think it's 27 or 28 years.
There's a reason I didn'tgo into a math related field
Katie (12:26):
Well, you'll just wait for them to bring the cake
Fr. Pat (12:28):
Right.
I know a couple years ago Icelebrated my 25th jubilee
and that's a pretty bigthing, but I have to wait
now my next one's 50 soI have to make it 25 more years.
So who's counting at this point?
Let someoneelse do the math, right?
Katie (12:41):
So I don't know if people know this or not, but,
connected to the parish, wehave a few seminarians, right?
We've had Deacon Randy here.
We have Ben Myers.
he's out east.
He's a brother, I believe,or a monk or something.
And we have Jon Dick who wasthe youth minister before.
The question really forme is how do we best
pray for our seminarians?
Fr. Pat (13:03):
I think it starts before they even
become a seminarian.
We we start with every youngcouple we know, and we pray
for them that they are in alltheir actions and behaviors
are pro life.
When I do a wedding, Itell young couples, I say,
Be fertile and multiply.
be Catholic, have as manychildren as you can because
vocations come from familiesand we need not this,
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you know, we're choosingnot to have children.
That's not Catholic, havechildren support, be open to
vocations and all along atevery stage, just be open.
You don't have tomake a decision until
your college years.
Now we're not recruitingfor a junior seminary.
When you're in eighth gradethose days are over,
we're waiting fora little experience
a little life maturityand that but once
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then you get to thatlevel Then just be open
be open because here's thething What makes a great
priest what makes a greatsister, brother religious,
deacon what makes agreat servant of God?
The same gifts that wouldmake a great husband, a great
wife, a great parent, so youcan see a lot of similarities.
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Those would make a greatreligious, great priest
Katie (14:09):
You don't know when your name's going to
get pulled from that basket.
Fr. Pat (14:11):
And then once you realize, okay, this
might be my calling.
Then we have tosupport and nurture.
can do that through prayers.
We can do that throughinviting people over,
just letting them knowyou're still one of us.
You're not separatingyourself from the community.
You're not moving abovebelow or on the side
of the community.
That reassurance and thatsupport that love is what
it's all about I lovecoming back to Holy Family
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because I get to experiencethat family I get to
see those smiling facesI get to pick up babies
and give them a blessing.
I get to thank my serversfor the gift they are giving
of their time and talent.
And, and you know what?
I see myself at thoseages too, where they're at.
I loved Christmas Mass becausemy servers in the congregation
was so filled with joy.
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It was just like San Antonio.
We had English singing.
We had Spanish singing.
We had such joy and happinessat thanking Jesus for his
gift, the incarnation forthanking our blessed mother
for another Christmas thatwe could all celebrate.
That's what it's all about.
I think that's how we,encourage vocations.
We support vocations.
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We have a healthy,vibrant church
and that's everythingfrom church at the,
pope Francis, allthe way down to Holy
Family here in Adrian.
Were Catholicin all of our words,
thoughts, and actions.
Yep.
And that that supportsvocations more than
you could ever know.
Katie (15:31):
Well, that's some really good advice.
So I thank you for lettingus know because it that's
always the question, right?
The diocese puts outa poster once a year.
I don't even ifpeople know that.
And so we hang it up andwe're asked to pray for
both religious, religioussisters and seminarians.
And, it really is agreat privilege to pray
for someone as theypursue their vocation.
Fr. Pat (15:49):
It's amazing.
You know what one of myfavorite things to do?
So I'm a fourth degreeKnight of Columbus.
I love the knights.
They are such a gift.
One of the mostamazing organizations
in the church.
On the back of their magazineevery month
they highlight a vocation.
It may be female religious,male religious, priest
seminarianAnd to read their story
They're just like us.
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They're just they'rejust like the families we serve.
They're just like anyparishioner here at Holy
Family and to see how theyfollowed the calling of the
Holy Spirit the Lord in theirlife and that gives me hope
because here's great vocationsthat Who knows the next
picture of the backof Knights of Columbus
magazine could be righthere from Holy Family
Katie (16:31):
Could be.
Could be.
We've had some crop.
Fr. Pat (16:33):
Yes.
Katie (16:34):
So, we just continue to pray for whatever
God's will is here.
Even marriages haveincreased around here,
which is a blessing, youknow, I mean, that's a
that's a vocation too.
So.
So how did you choosethe Marianists?
Fr. Pat (16:47):
So I followed in the footsteps of my sister, Ann
Marie, and she went to Dayton.
I always joke There'sa good, friend of mine.
She's the chair of our Boarddown in San Antonio chair of
our school, Judy Rettinger.
And she always tells methe Harvard of the Midwest,
you know, so the Marianistrun 18 high schools
in the United States,three universities.
So the biguniversities are Dayton
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in Ohio, Dayton.
Honolulu, ChaminadeUniversity, and then in San
Antonio, St. Mary's.
Well, I didn't even knowthe Marianists growing up.
I knew the Oblates ofSt. Francis de Sales.
I knew our diocesan priests.
I knew theAdrian Dominican Sisters,
but I didn't know theMarianist Society of Mary.
And there are two Societyof Mary's.
So here'swhere it gets exciting.
At the end of our name, wehave S period, M period,
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Society of Mary, andIt's not as well known
as the SJ, the Society of Jesus.
Everybody knows the Jesuits,the J Boys.
That's right.
But not everybody knowsthe Society of Mary.
We have theMaris and then the Marianists.
We're the Marianists ourfounder was Blessed William
Joseph Shammanad, andhe was an educator and Diocesan
Priest in Bordeaux, France.
So long story short, cameto the United States in
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1850. The Marianists did.
Started the University of Daytonand in 1991 I started
as a freshman At
Katie (18:01):
The University of Dayton.
To following Katie's
Fr. Pat (18:03):
Yep, Anne Marie's.
Anne Marie's.
Yep.
Wrong sister, sorry.
Wrong sister.
But my sister katiewent there, my brother Ryan
and John, so five of us, Isaid, I don't know how my
parents came up with all thismoney to send us to the to
the University Dayton.
Katie (18:17):
So what I'm hearing is the McDaids
are the Alumnus donors?
Fr. Pat (18:19):
My parents have a license plate, it's
magnificent, it says Flyers 5.
And then, On one carand it might be the
truck has five flyers.
Well, then my sisterssisters have the same thing
in Ohio you know,'cause two different
states, you can have thesame phrase.
And think there's one familythat might've had seven
from the same family go tothe University of dayton, but
I met the Marianistthere and here's the thing.
Great, great piece of advice forthose going to college.
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I was a history and politicalscience major, double major.
And then I ended up pickingup theology cause they were my
most amazing classes.
Okay.
The Marianist taughttake the best, most
challenging, most academicclasses you can, especially
with the best professors.
It doesn't matterif you need the subject.
It doesn't matterif you need that course.
If it's taught by someonewho's passionate and
good about what they'reteaching, you'll love it.
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I took classes ofsubjects I loved
with a mediocre professor,and it wasn't rewarding.
I took classes with Marianiststhat I never would have in
a million years would havetaken, but the Marianist
were passionate abouttheir classes were on fire.
I loved them.
I loved them.
And I mean, it was just,it was unbelievable.
So because of those Marianistteachers, I said, my dad
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might not have beena religious or a priest, but
he had the same passionteaching American history.
And that's how these brothersand priests were.
And I'm like, Iwant to become one of
these guys, So my vocationthat was nurtured at Holy Family
Parish deepened whenI went to college.
And I think I was at thatlevel where I was more
open and able to say,I want to give this a shot.
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and so it wasn't likehundred percent boom.
I knew I'm going to bea Marianist.
I'm going to be a priest.
But it was The directionI was going to give a shot.
I always ask married couples.
I said, how do you know?
And I've receiveddifferent answers and there's no
one that that is always the sameAlmost no one says
100 percent I knewI went with majority at 95 90.
I don't know that you canput a number on
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it when you know who you'regonna marry does it matter what
percent likely you really?
Do you want to get into thatgame?
No, you marry you celebrate thatnuptial that sacrament that
bond and you live your lifeof happiness and joy and
Allow God to transform you withthat grace same thing
with religioussame thing with my
experience at Dayton.
And so, you know, we hadlet's see, Louis Wiesner,
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Father Louis, FatherJohn Putka, Father Joe
Tedesco, Father Joe Kozar,Brother Jerry O'neill,
Brother Tom Oldensky all theseguys were Educators that taught
me in the classroomand they were characters.
They were amazing and I saidI want to follow
in their footsteps.
I knew I was open to becominga teacher and so 18 high schools
I've been in I think four ofthem four or five.
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Let's see.
My first assignment wasSt. Joe's in Cleveland,
up in on lake erie.
It's amazing.
I love my first five yearsin Cleveland the Vikings.
It was amazing.
So then ChaminadeJulian in Dayton then I went to
the seminary came back,Archbishop Reardon in San
Francisco,then after San Francisco,
Central Catholic in San Antonio,then I went to
Hawaii it's kind oflike military, five years
and instead of PCSing,we transfer, we move, and
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I asked once, I said, whydo we move so often?
They're like, You'rea young Marianist.
You're a young priest.
Everybody wants a dynamic youngpriest and we don't have
any others.
So you get to move around.
And then at a certain point,so when I was in Hawaii,
I was there notfor five years, but six got
an extra year because of covid.
You couldn't travel in that.
And then they said, okay, you'vereached your 25th Jubilee.
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Where do you want to go?
You've been a Marianist for 25years.
And I said, I want to goback to San Antonio, because
the, culture, theCatholicism, the students,
the families, thedepth of spirituality
is amazing.
I was talking to one of theparishioners here at Christmas
Eve, he's like, how'syour spanish coming along?
I well, not so good.
I said, I'm pretty goodat tamales and the food, but, He
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goes, Father,you're in San Antonio.
There's no excuse.
I said, I'm old now and I'm nota good student anymore.
He goes, that's my homeworkassignment for you.
of the things I love to give inhomilies.
is a homework assignment.
He's like, that's myhomework assignment.
He goes, Father, works bothways.
It works both ways.
I said, I liked that.
So I might give it a shot, but.
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I think I might, fullimmersion, maybe over a
couple summers, I can move toMexico.
And cause we have schoolsand parishes down in Mexico or
we're also, Ithink in Guatemala, El salvador,
South america, or Peru
Katie (22:24):
What would be the defining charism of a Marianist?
Fr. Pat (22:27):
So we take our inspiration from Mary
at the foot of the cross.
So Luke's Gospel, when we haveMary and the beloved disciple,
here's Jesus on the cross.
So our goal is to do whateverhe tells us.
So it's kind of, that'sfrom the wedding feast of Cana.
It's like a hybrid weddingfeast at cana, do whatever
he tells And then also Maryat the foot of the cross.
So if you could doa kind of a fusion of those two,
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what is Mary calling us to doto help her son,
our savior, be, known more,loved more and served more.
That's what Mary is.
So that's, that's weddingfeast of Cana, of course.
You know all thegreat sacraments are
around a celebrationjust have water being turned
into wine have a couple savingface with Not being
embarrassed by runningout and our blessed mother steps
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in saves daywith her actually she
directs her son jesus Yeah.
well and then at thefoot of the cross.
There's this thisintimate moment where
Jesus givesJohn to his blessed mother
and our blessed motherto John take care of my
mom, and I think that's what wedo.
In a maternal way like Mary,we can take care of our
fellow brothers and sistersin the church.
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And that's, that's everybody,we have a lot of people that are
Catholic and a lot of peoplethat aren't Catholic
yet, but what's our job toevangelize, to invite, to
reach out to somebody that,we can share what's
most important in our life,our faith.
We can share that with.
So we're always kindof evangelizing by our efforts,
by our example.
And so we're, we'redrawing people to Christ.
We're showing them thelove of our life and
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saying, come follow me.
And our blessedmother, I think she's
perfect as an examplefor doing that.
I was talking to a friend ofmine, he was going to preach
this Christmas morning.
I tried to go onlineand see if I could
find his homily,but he was like,
we have the samereadings every year
and I'm going to preachthis year on when
Mary's water brokeI'm like, I've never
thought about that.
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But we talk a lotabout the miracles of Jesus.
But that's the divinityside of Jesus
fully divine, but fullyhuman his humanity came
from our blessed motherShe might not have had
birthing pains because she waswithout sin But she still
had biology still the same.
She carried jesus in herwomb for nine months and her
water broke and gave birthto Jesus, breastfed Jesus.
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I mean, what a beautiful image.
Here's our blessed mother Likeour own mothers took care of us.
She's taking care of jesus.
the humanity of Jesus camefrom our blessed mother.
So I want to seewhat my friend was
preaching about becausethat could
help me become a better priestlike how do we put the human
side because at least myselfsometimes I tend to look more
at the divine fully divineside of Jesus and I don't
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negate or neglect, but Icould always emphasize just
as much that fully humanbecause the two go together
fully human
Katie (25:06):
and fully
Fr. Pat (25:06):
divine.
What a beautiful.
and Theological truth and soI want to see what he preached
about
Katie (25:12):
I do too.
Fr. Pat (25:13):
that's that's that's new territory
I don't know that any saint isuh, this might be
his path to holiness.
Katie (25:19):
You know, for Advent, I've
been reading Roy Gobleand he has, amazing reflections.
They make the journeyto Bethlehem very human,
Fr. Pat (25:30):
So it puts real eyes and
Katie (25:32):
So one of the, one of the, reflections are like,
what do you think the roadtrip snacks they took were,
you know?
I mean, it's a haul toget to Bethlehem.
So do you take jerky?
Fr. Pat (25:43):
I know.
Katie (25:43):
You can't stop at a gas station.
Fr. Pat (25:46):
Right well, they you know, like as
a hunter and a fishermanThey probably didn't have
walleye my favoritefish or venison jerky with
jalapeno and cheese.
But that would be enough tosustain the trip, you right.
What were their snacks?
mean, these arereal questions that you can
laugh and you can say wellnot significant But
you know what anytimewe grow And loving
and appreciating Jesus more Evenif it's through just a smile
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and a laugh on our face likewhat snacks they have.
Isn't that what it's all about?
Katie (26:14):
Yeah, or you think about the
annunciation, right?
And, it's more likeElizabeth was the loudmouth
cousin.
And so to hide Maryfrom being the unwed teenage
pregnancy, we sent her to thehill country, which is like,
to live with Elizabethfor three months so we
could just like hide her, andI'm thinking like, oh my
gosh, yeah, that's happenedall over the course of history.
Fr. Pat (26:36):
See, what I think, I have a little different take
on the visitation, I here'sthe angel Gabriel that came
to joseph and came toGabriel, and is helping both
of these guys understandthis is a miracle.
just the, the immaculateconception, she was
born without sin.
So her parents,Joachim and Anne,
okay, so she wasdestined for greatness.
Fast forward.
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To when she now is of childbirthing age, and
she's engaged, betrothedto Joseph, and all of a sudden
she's pregnant.
So, you know, amiraculous conception.
Gabriel had toexplain that to her.
But also, here's Elizabethin her older age.
We have two women that are bothexperiencing miracles.
Why not come together?
Family.
Cousins.
Why not come together and say,How good is God?
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isn't he amazing?
God is so unbelievable.
Both of us, both of us.
Take away the surprise, takeaway the angel Gabriel needing
to explain in various ways.
What a gift new life.
I don't knowabout you, but I love, I love
children, especially babies.
I love baptisms.
So here's a pitch.
Here's a kick Igotta give to all
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these young parents getyour babies baptized.
Don't wait.
I've heard well I'mgonna wait till they make
it to an age so they can makethe decision on their own
It's the worst thing you canpossibly do Are you gonna let
them pick their hour of curfewor what they're gonna eat
every night for dinner?
No, and that's fine It's farless important than baptism.
Baptize thosebambini, bring them to church,
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raise them in the faith.
This drives me crazy when theysay, well, when they're
of age, that means youdon't value and love your faith
like you should.
Let's work on that becausethese kids need to be
brought to church, needto be baptized, need to be
brought up with the faithand sorry, I had to go on a
little bit of a rant.
Katie (28:16):
Well, you know, as someone who teaches baptism
prep and RCIA to the kidsit's amazing to
see actually when,people start the process.
It's just a classI got to go to, or my
kids to class, but thentheir families start to
come into the picture,and we start to
actually live the faith.
It's really a precious walkwith people.
Fr. Pat (28:35):
And you want to understand how
delicate faith is.
Talk to families withchildren that are ill.
One of my first, when Iwas a seminarian and I
was just ordained, one ofmy first experiences was
having a CPE, a clinicalpastoral experience.
I was at St. Jude's inFullerton, California.
So catholic hospitalran by the sisters of
St. Joseph of Orange.
It's the most amazingpastoral experience.
I about quit a hundredtimes because it was so
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traumatic and, and toughand, you know, tears of
joy and tears of sadnessand lack of understanding,
but talk about learning how tobe a priest in the front lines.
I was in neonatal intensivecare for a week and
it was the oneof the most tender moments
with the nurses go beforeevery incubator and we
had babies that wereYou know five pounds
three pounds and the smallestIV's you've ever seen in your
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life and feeding tubes Andto see if they were gaining
a gram was a good sign we wouldsay prayers of thanksgiving
and if they were losing weightprayers of hope and in and then
being able to rockbabies when you're all
gowned up withyour ppe gear on and it
was one of them I'll neverforget those moments.
I think I was good forthe rest of my life
with homilies becauseI could just talk about
that experienceBut I think one of
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the appreciations wehave is how sacred life is
and, and how vulnerableand, but you see that with the
youth, you see that withthe elderly.
Why are we called to be prolife from cradle grave,
from womb to tomb?
Because that's whatit's all about.
We respect life at all ages.
I love St. John Paul II becauseone of the images he showed us.
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It was so hard to seewhen he had Parkinson's
and his hand was shakingand he was drooling
and his head was lean.
But one of the lessonshe gave us last lesson
he could last homily wasHow to honor and respect
life even at the endwhen the secular society
says, We can end this life.
Is that a life worth living?
Yes, it is.
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If nothing more than an examplefor us to say all life is sacred
St. John Paul II taughtus that lesson.
Was he perfect in his life?
No, isany saint besides our Blessed
Mother without sin, right?
Is any saint perfect?
No, but here's the thingThere's not a single saint
without a past and not asingle sinner without a future
I love thatbecause that's us, Katie.
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That's us, that's liferight there That's what
we're called to embrace.
That's why our faithis so amazing.
That's why it's just it'sthe best, We are where
we're at because of somany heroic and saintly men and
women and We're growing to bethat saint For others to look to
and model their life afterif we could if we can inspire
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others to want tobe a saint we're
doing something, right?
We could be the next FatherLouis or Sister Faith or
Sister Annette.
We could be the nextyou know Father Tom.
I remember.
Oh, here's a great story forHoly family
When I was, I might have beenfreshman or sophomore, and
Father Tom took us fishingon, the Maumee for walleye.
Father Tom Helfrich?
Yes, Father Tom helfrich.
He was substituting.
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I don't think he was at ourparish, but he might have been
up at the Oblate Novitiateat Vineyard Lake
And He was substituting at theparish and he's you want to go
fishing?
I'm like, do Iwant to go fishing?
Is the Pope Catholic?
Yes, I want to go fishing.
So we went downto, to the Maumee.
We went and we caught all kindsof fish.
And talk about vocation.
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That'show you support vocations.
I wasn't yet in formation,but that did more for me
to show me the human sideof religious, to show me
like priests are normal.
I did get into alittle bit of trouble
with mom McDaid whenI brought the fish home and
I left them in the sinkand they're flopping.
all over the floor.
She's like Patrick Thomas.
McDaid what..
(32:05):
When you get the full name.
Katie (32:06):
At least it wasn't the confirmation name.
name
Fr. Pat (32:09):
so I picked Michael, if I had Patrick Thomas, Michael
McDaid that's a HBL moment, allhell breaking loose.
you.
know, that's,
Katie (32:17):
You're done.
Fr. Pat (32:18):
yeah, you're done.
You're done.
The only thing to do is to askfor forgiveness, And, you know,
mom and dad can give onefor it, but you
need that sacramental.
You're not going to Spendsome time in the sin bin
and say, forgive me fatherfor I've sinned.
Katie (32:31):
So that's interesting because, we do a kids camp here.
So we do six weeksin, the summer.
And then every daywe do a different activity.
and it'sthe same day every week.
So it's, pretty fun.
So father, Tom says, Oh, weshould take the kids fishing
next year.
I said, okay, so now we're goingto have to coordinate your
schedule and his schedule.
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and and we'll take these kids.
We, We, probablyhad 30 kids at kids camp.
I mean, it's prettygood turnout, but yeah, so
we'll have to coordinatea fishing trip with, uh,
with the priest there.
Fr. Pat (33:03):
Yep.
Multiplication of the fish.
it is.
Katie (33:05):
And we, are working, on vocations
in a couple of different ways.
well, we have the Oblates alwayshere.
and Father Mike isreally gracious
to talk to people.
we also have prayer partners forour elementary kids
for our first communionkids, our first sacraments.
And, their prayer partners arethe Adrian Dominicans.
So we were able to find enoughsisters to be prayer partners
Fr. Pat (33:27):
Sure.
Katie (33:28):
the whole parish prays for them too, just like we
you were talking about ourconfirmation kids, our
prayer partners with ourolder parishioners.
so we partnered them up andthen the whole parish prays for
them as well, too.
We distribute those cardswith their names.
Fr. Pat (33:41):
Yep
Katie (33:41):
and then, Sister Katherine Frazier
will be coming on the podcast
Fr. Pat (33:45):
fantastic
Katie (33:46):
along with a couple of other sisters.
And, we're hopingto have some discussion
about human trafficking andand social justice issues
Fr. Pat (33:53):
You know, one of people you have to get on the podcast
is Sister Nancy Dominican.
Katie (33:58):
Oh, Murray.
She, yes.
Fr. Pat (33:59):
Yes.
she, she hasmemorized the life of St.
Catherine of Siena.
Yes And
Katie (34:04):
Yes.
Fr. Pat (34:04):
And talk about, about
Katie (34:05):
and Dorothy,
Fr. Pat (34:06):
Dorothy day?
Katie (34:07):
No, Brazilian.
Fr. Pat (34:08):
Dorothy stagg.
Wonderful.
She is, I mean, thisis the talent the Catholic
Church here in Lenawee County.
I mean, it's just amazing and,diverse, powerful, sacramental.
we have the good people.
And you know, god'scalling everybody to holiness.
We're all called be saints.
And, and, the listeners ofthe podcast that if there's
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one takeaway is, okay,where's God calling me
this day and every day,how do I become a saint?
Where am I goingto use the talents
I've been given to deepenTo deepen that faith
hope and love of Jesus.
what it's about,
Katie (34:41):
You know, Patrick,
Fr. Pat (34:41):
Millions of ways to do it right
Katie (34:43):
perfect ending to podcast right there
Fr. Pat (34:45):
We ran out of time?
Katie (34:46):
Well that line just, I don't know how we follow that
Fr. Pat (34:49):
I know.
Good point
Katie (34:50):
I cannot thank you enough for joining us today
in the Open Seat.
Fr. Pat (34:53):
This was my first podcast
so I'm excited I was a littlenervous coming over I'm
like, I've never done thisbefore but this is Katie Love
she's gonna take care of meand it's gonna be a great day
and that'sthat's been my experience.
Thank you continue.
I look forward to this This issuch a a gift for the parish and
a way for you to give backto the Catholic community
Katie (35:12):
We are blessed to sit at the feet of Jesus's disciples.
Fr. Pat (35:17):
Amen.
Can we finish with a prayer?
In thename of the Father and the
Son and the Holy Spirit.
Amen.
Lord Jesus, we thank youfor Holy Family Parish.
We thank you forOpen Seat podcast and
this opportunity to evangelizeand hear from local saints
in progress.
Continue to shower yourgrace upon all those
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who sit behind the mic.
All those who listen to thispodcast and Lord, may we all
continue to spread your faith,hope, and love, throughout
all of our lives, we ask thisin your name now and forever.
Amen.
In the Father, Son, and HolySpirit.
Amen.
Once again, we thank youfor joining us today.
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We hope that wherever youfind an open seat in your
life, you will invitesomeone to join you.
Is any saint perfect?
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No, but here's the thingThere's not a single
saint without a past and nota single sinner without a
future that's life right thereThat's what we're
called to embrace.
That's why our faithis so amazing.
If we can inspire others to wantto be a saint We're
doing something, right?
Katie (00:15):
Welcome to Open Seat, the podcast where we
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Here, we believe thatevery story matters.
Whether you're questioning,seeking, or steadfast in
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So grab your seat, getcomfortable, and let's dive
into today's story here atOpen Seat.
So today in the Open Seat,we are blessed to have
Father Pat McDaid, SM.
Fr. Pat (00:51):
SM, Society of Mary.
Katie (00:53):
Yeah! So, welcome home, first of all.
Fr. Pat (00:55):
It's great to be back in the 49221.
Katie (00:59):
So, where are you at these days?
Fr. Pat (01:01):
So, I'm in San Antonio, Texas.
And I'm at CentralCatholic High School.
All Boys High School.
About a mile from the Alamo.
Katie (01:09):
Oh, and the Alamo is such a, such a beloved spot.
Fr. Pat (01:12):
Special.
I mean, it's stilla Catholic Church.
We had the medal ofhonor, conference
there this past year.
And we had an amazingprayer service for these
heroes that have been liftedup by their sacrifice,
by their heroic actions.
Not all died, and we had34 living that came down.
We had a ceremonyat the Alamo and, of
course, all around town.
And, and our school, CentralCatholic, we have a Staff
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Sergeant Bordelin, just a heroof the school, graduated from
Central before World War II.
Joined the Marines,died in the Battle of
Tarawa, and, his Medal ofHonor is in our school.
So, his family, the Bordelonfamily, we have relatives
in the school now, andthey came to our school.
We had a huge evening and adinner, part of the gala to
celebrate these amazing men.
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I was surprised howmany are Catholic.
Katie (01:58):
Oh, really?
Fr. Pat (01:59):
You know, because the military takes everybody,
All faiths, all walks oflife, but, meeting the living
recipients that were visitingour school as part of the
convocation or the, you know,the whole, the whole events
conference, many were Catholic.
It's really, it'sreally neat to see.
Katie (02:13):
Yeah.
You have a big affinityfor the military.
Fr. Pat (02:15):
I love the military.
Katie (02:17):
Where did that start?
Fr. Pat (02:18):
I think just growing up, we always
had that respect.
My grandpa was a tailgunner on a B 17.
.And my grandpa, thatwas my grandpa Bromeyer
on my mom's side.
My dad's side, my grandpa McDaidwas an engineer and helped
with I think the Shermantank developing the turret
because he knew calculus.
And so we have this historyof supporting the military.
And then a lot of myfriends from Adrian
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went in the military.
A lot of my fellowstudents, when I went to
the Harvard of the Midwest,University at Dayton,
went to the military,they were ROTC program.
And some of the schoolsI've taught at through my
Marianist life have hadROTC, Junior ROTC programs.
And I just lovesupporting the military.
When I was in Hawaii, I helpedout, with the Chaplaincy
Corps at, Schofield Barracks,and I got to say Mass at
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Schofield, Alimanu MilitaryReservation, Tripler, Army
Hospital, it was just amazing.
These are the best people,and talk about a gift to
our country, and so manyamazing Catholics that you
can see them putting theirfaith into action, serving
our country, raising amazing,hopefully vocations for our
sisters, for our brothers,priests, for the church.
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I love the military.
Katie (03:23):
So you said you're a hometown boy.
49221. All right.
So you grew up in Adrian.
Well, tell us alittle bit about it.
Fr. Pat (03:30):
So growing up two brothers,
two sisters, my mom anddad are still here in
Adrian and I loved it.
I loved it because whenyou're growing up, that's all
your experience is, right?
I thought everybody waslike the life I lived.
Went to Lincoln Elementaryand then went to Drager Middle
Schooland then Adrian High School
had phenomenal teachers.
Back then we had Saint Joe's andSaint Mary's.
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So the priest that I had Iremember just amazing men.
We had Father Williams.
We had of course FatherLouie Komorowski here at
Saint Mary's
Katie (03:58):
Both of them have halls named after them.
Fr. Pat (04:00):
Isn't that amazing?
I don't need a hallafter me let's not get crazy.
but butFather Al Father Al was one
of my favorite Oblate andFather Al Russell, he was
the one, whenever I say theEucharistic prayer one, with
all the saints, I said, Iwant to become like Father Al.
Linus, Cletus, Clement,Sixtus, Cornelius,
Lawrence, Christogamous,John, Paul, Cosmas, Damian, I'm
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going on and on and onand I said, That's what
it's about, living theCatholic life, embracing the
sacraments, so we can be likeone of these we mentioned.
And that was Father Al, hewould get a bounce in his
step, he would light up,smile, it didn't matter if he
was saying Mass at St. Joe's,St. Mary's, out at the Irish
Hills, you know, he said,or, do you still have
Mass at the cemeteries?
Katie (04:42):
I know Memorial Day we definitely do.
And then they blessedthe graves after.
Fr. Pat (04:46):
Sure, and, and I remember as Boy
Scouts we'd put flags onthe veterans headstones.
And that was mygrowing up in Adrian.
It was a life of faith, alife of great examples of
course my parents, how couldI not mention my parents?
My mom and
Katie (04:57):
Did you have as a teacher?
Fr. Pat (04:58):
I did, I had my dad for American History.
And it was a great experiencebecause of course I knew
I had a little advantage.
I knew history from my dad,all the stories growing up.
And, I remember one ofmy friends, she asked one
time, she's like, Does yourson get a pass, or does
he really know this stuff?
And she's like, ask him.
So the whole class,instead of my dad teaching
all the students, my, myfellow peers asked me the
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questions, and they're like,how do you know all this?
I said, it's in my DNA.
It's It's my DNA.
I got it.
My dad is a master teacher.
it's in his DNA, andwe learned it from the
earliest moments, fromfirst, breaths growing
up, and we were, wewere immersed with that.
You know, dad taught at AdrianHigh School for, I
think, 43 years, wenton to teach another
Seven or eight.
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substituting.
And I mean, what a career.
Katie (05:44):
And taking numerous kids to D. C.
Fr. Pat (05:46):
D. C. Teaching summer school and night school.
I think he taught theprisoners G. E. D. at times.
And as a family, we'd have a twoweek vacation.
But we'd go camping.
So we'd go up to YoungState Park.
And those memories,too, because that was
the time together.
Still to this day, my brothersand sisters all love camping
because of those memoriesgrowing up and the
traditions we had.
Katie (06:07):
So family, you have your mom, your dad, and
then how many siblings?
Fr. Pat (06:11):
So, I have two brothers, two sisters.
John's no longer with us,but Ann Marie's the oldest.
And then she's married toDave, who's an amazing guy.
They're down in Ohio.
Katie and Sean.
Katie is in Cincinnati.
Sean, my brother in law,another amazing guy.
So, I love my brothers in law.
They're amazing.
Ryan and Becky, andthey have two kids.
So, my niece andnephew, Reed and Riley,
are down in Orlando.
(06:32):
We get to see them.
For example, the nicething about teaching in the
school is even us priests,we get spring break.
And so one of the traditionsis we get to go to visit
Ryan in Florida, and maybe ifwe're lucky hit a cruise on,
a few of those days, becausethat's the place to go.
If you want to hit theCaribbean islands, of course,
you know, what's nice is whenthat does happen as a priest,
I bring my basket becauseall of these workers that are
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from numerous other countriesthey used to have chaplains on
board, but they don't anymoreSo to have an opportunity to
hear confessions to say Massfor these, you know, maybe
a couple thousand workers.
That's a real special gift.
I try whenever I travelI try and bring my Mass
kit because you never know whoyou're going to run into that
you can say listen, we cancelebrate the Mass right here.
with boy scouts, when Iwas in Hawaii, we had the
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Catholic committee on scoutingand we went to Philmont
on the top of the toothwe hiked up there one morning
as the sun was coming up.
We celebrated Mass withthese Catholic scouts.
Hopefully that we'reconsidering a vocation.
It was called theSt. George trek.
They still havethat to this day.
And, you know, I figureany effort to increase
and promote and, and makevisible, what a great life.
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So you mentioned growing up inAdrian, let me tell you about
the sisters who raised mebecause it wasn't just family.
It wasn't just mom anddad and my brothers and
sisters, it was also sisterfaith and sister Annette.
So these Adrian Dominicans,the Adrian Dominicans
are amazing women.
They are unbelievable.
And we had two of the best.
Not only were they sisters of
Katie (08:01):
sisters In Blood.
Fr. Pat (08:02):
In blood.
Right.
But religious sisters, sothey had a two for one.
Well, so theyraised us at over at St. Joe's
and it was amazing.
I think I started servingMass a little earlier
than I was scheduled tobecause of maybe my
behavior in the pew.
And Sister Annette I think,tried ripping my ear off
my head and she dragged mebehind in a sacristy and
said, it's time to serve.
I said, Sister, I haven'tgone through training.
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She goes, you'll learn fast.
Everyone's watching.
And I thought, I like this.
I like being on the altar.
I love serving.
This is amazing.
Front row seat,best seat in town.
Well.
Here's the story.
You just, I haveto share with you.
Confirmation.
So fast forward to highschool, I had fallen in love.
Every time I wanted togo to Mass, I wanted
to serve because youreally are the closest to
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the consecration andJesus right there.
I loved it.
Well, confirmation, we gothrough, you know, high
school years, you go throughthe, the catechesis and
we had volunteers and manyteachers that helped us
deepen our love of the faith.
So sister Annetteand Sister Faith.
They decided for the Saturdaynight Mass and then the
Sunday Masses, they wouldpass out little doves that
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cut out in paper.
And so they cut out,I don't know how many
months they spent cuttingout thousands of doves.
And they write, we hadmaybe a couple dozen,
18, 24, somewhere about,confimandi they wrote
all of our names on, on,let's say, 1, 500 or so.
them out at mass.
put it in the collection basket.
People love that when youdon't have to put money in but
you can pull something out.
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You know, that's
Katie (09:28):
Not making change in the basket.
Fr. Pat (09:30):
That's always a blessing, right?
So, people are all excited.
Instead of a second collectionwhere you put more money in
the basket, they actuallyget to reach in and pull a
name out and you'd see whosename was on that dove and
then you would pray for them.
You know, and the the timeleading up to confirmation
when Bishop Pavish wouldcome and confirm us.
Well, I served that massand Sister Annette after
at the end of Mass, shesays, Patrick, I'm not
going to draw a name.
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She goes, I'm goingto pray for you that
you become a priest.
Now at this time, I stillloved saying Mass or
not saying mass serving Mass.
I
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I
Fr. Pat (10:00):
wasn't there yet.
I still, but I didn'tsee myself saying
Mass as a priest.
I'm like, sister, you know,I'm not sure what,
chance there is ofme becoming a priest.
I mean, an Ice cube mighthave a chance you know where
Katie (10:13):
better than, better than Pat McDaid
becoming a priest.
Fr. Pat (10:16):
Sister faith was undeterred she's like
no i'm gonna pray for youto become a priest I said I
recommend you draw a name.
She reaches in and grabs my name
Katie (10:24):
Oh.
Fr. Pat (10:25):
I wasn't content with that.
I said, oh, I knowwhat you did every
one of those is mine.
I'm that vocation you'vebeen praying for that you let
people know you're passingout everybody's name, but
they're all praying for me andyou're praying for me, aren't
you?
She looks at me like, howare you making this up?
And she goes, well, if youwant me to draw another
name, but I guaranteethey're not yours.
So the next 10 namesI pulled out, not a
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single one was mine.
I'm like, at that moment Isaid with my family supporting
vocation with sister Faithand Sister Annette praying
for me to become a priest.
I said, it's justa matter of time.
So I graduated, I wasconfirmed, graduated
from Adrian, went toDayton, studied political
science and history.
And then at the end ofmy senior year, or my
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senior year I did whatwas called the aspirancy.
Where you live with thecommunity, you pray with
the community, you discern,you know, is this a life
I'm being called to?
have been one of the fewtimes in my life I got a 4.
0.
Katie (11:18):
Really?
Yup,
Fr. Pat (11:19):
it was and I said this is a sign
from the Holy Spirit.
But of course I wanted toconfirm so I said let's see
what happens second semester.
Sure enough.
Sure enough, 4.
0 The conversations, themorning prayer evening
prayer night prayer Masseveryday, meals together
,Breakfast, lunch, dinner.
It was just such a blessingI confirmed the vocation
The holy spirit was callingme to so I went to the
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novitiate, spiritual bootcamp.
So we went, it wasn't thatfar away, maybe 10 miles from
the University of Dayton.
We went to whatwas called Bergamo.
And, for 12 months, westudied the vows of poverty,
celibacy, obedience.
we learned new styles of prayer.
And we had one daywhere we did volunteer
work in ministry.
But it was a it's a greatyear a lot of prayer a lot of
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silence not really apostolicBut we had a beautiful
grotto right next to theproperty that was similar
to the one in Notre Dame So,you know, you're at home.
You're you're you're in heaven.
And then I took my firstvows and it was history I
was I was trying to thinkbecause I thought you
might ask on the way over.
How long have youbeen a religious?
Katie (12:19):
Well, that's a good question.
Fr. Pat (12:20):
I think it's 27 or 28 years.
There's a reason I didn'tgo into a math related field
Katie (12:26):
Well, you'll just wait for them to bring the cake
Fr. Pat (12:28):
Right.
I know a couple years ago Icelebrated my 25th jubilee
and that's a pretty bigthing, but I have to wait
now my next one's 50 soI have to make it 25 more years.
So who's counting at this point?
Let someoneelse do the math, right?
Katie (12:41):
So I don't know if people know this or not, but,
connected to the parish, wehave a few seminarians, right?
We've had Deacon Randy here.
We have Ben Myers.
he's out east.
He's a brother, I believe,or a monk or something.
And we have Jon Dick who wasthe youth minister before.
The question really forme is how do we best
pray for our seminarians?
Fr. Pat (13:03):
I think it starts before they even
become a seminarian.
We we start with every youngcouple we know, and we pray
for them that they are in alltheir actions and behaviors
are pro life.
When I do a wedding, Itell young couples, I say,
Be fertile and multiply.
be Catholic, have as manychildren as you can because
vocations come from familiesand we need not this,
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you know, we're choosingnot to have children.
That's not Catholic, havechildren support, be open to
vocations and all along atevery stage, just be open.
You don't have tomake a decision until
your college years.
Now we're not recruitingfor a junior seminary.
When you're in eighth gradethose days are over,
we're waiting fora little experience
a little life maturityand that but once
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then you get to thatlevel Then just be open
be open because here's thething What makes a great
priest what makes a greatsister, brother religious,
deacon what makes agreat servant of God?
The same gifts that wouldmake a great husband, a great
wife, a great parent, so youcan see a lot of similarities.
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Those would make a greatreligious, great priest
Katie (14:09):
You don't know when your name's going to
get pulled from that basket.
Fr. Pat (14:11):
And then once you realize, okay, this
might be my calling.
Then we have tosupport and nurture.
can do that through prayers.
We can do that throughinviting people over,
just letting them knowyou're still one of us.
You're not separatingyourself from the community.
You're not moving abovebelow or on the side
of the community.
That reassurance and thatsupport that love is what
it's all about I lovecoming back to Holy Family
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because I get to experiencethat family I get to
see those smiling facesI get to pick up babies
and give them a blessing.
I get to thank my serversfor the gift they are giving
of their time and talent.
And, and you know what?
I see myself at thoseages too, where they're at.
I loved Christmas Mass becausemy servers in the congregation
was so filled with joy.
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It was just like San Antonio.
We had English singing.
We had Spanish singing.
We had such joy and happinessat thanking Jesus for his
gift, the incarnation forthanking our blessed mother
for another Christmas thatwe could all celebrate.
That's what it's all about.
I think that's how we,encourage vocations.
We support vocations.
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We have a healthy,vibrant church
and that's everythingfrom church at the,
pope Francis, allthe way down to Holy
Family here in Adrian.
Were Catholicin all of our words,
thoughts, and actions.
Yep.
And that that supportsvocations more than
you could ever know.
Katie (15:31):
Well, that's some really good advice.
So I thank you for lettingus know because it that's
always the question, right?
The diocese puts outa poster once a year.
I don't even ifpeople know that.
And so we hang it up andwe're asked to pray for
both religious, religioussisters and seminarians.
And, it really is agreat privilege to pray
for someone as theypursue their vocation.
Fr. Pat (15:49):
It's amazing.
You know what one of myfavorite things to do?
So I'm a fourth degreeKnight of Columbus.
I love the knights.
They are such a gift.
One of the mostamazing organizations
in the church.
On the back of their magazineevery month
they highlight a vocation.
It may be female religious,male religious, priest
seminarianAnd to read their story
They're just like us.
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They're just they'rejust like the families we serve.
They're just like anyparishioner here at Holy
Family and to see how theyfollowed the calling of the
Holy Spirit the Lord in theirlife and that gives me hope
because here's great vocationsthat Who knows the next
picture of the backof Knights of Columbus
magazine could be righthere from Holy Family
Katie (16:31):
Could be.
Could be.
We've had some crop.
Fr. Pat (16:33):
Yes.
Katie (16:34):
So, we just continue to pray for whatever
God's will is here.
Even marriages haveincreased around here,
which is a blessing, youknow, I mean, that's a
that's a vocation too.
So.
So how did you choosethe Marianists?
Fr. Pat (16:47):
So I followed in the footsteps of my sister, Ann
Marie, and she went to Dayton.
I always joke There'sa good, friend of mine.
She's the chair of our Boarddown in San Antonio chair of
our school, Judy Rettinger.
And she always tells methe Harvard of the Midwest,
you know, so the Marianistrun 18 high schools
in the United States,three universities.
So the biguniversities are Dayton
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in Ohio, Dayton.
Honolulu, ChaminadeUniversity, and then in San
Antonio, St. Mary's.
Well, I didn't even knowthe Marianists growing up.
I knew the Oblates ofSt. Francis de Sales.
I knew our diocesan priests.
I knew theAdrian Dominican Sisters,
but I didn't know theMarianist Society of Mary.
And there are two Societyof Mary's.
So here'swhere it gets exciting.
At the end of our name, wehave S period, M period,
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Society of Mary, andIt's not as well known
as the SJ, the Society of Jesus.
Everybody knows the Jesuits,the J Boys.
That's right.
But not everybody knowsthe Society of Mary.
We have theMaris and then the Marianists.
We're the Marianists ourfounder was Blessed William
Joseph Shammanad, andhe was an educator and Diocesan
Priest in Bordeaux, France.
So long story short, cameto the United States in
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1850. The Marianists did.
Started the University of Daytonand in 1991 I started
as a freshman At
Katie (18:01):
The University of Dayton.
To following Katie's
Fr. Pat (18:03):
Yep, Anne Marie's.
Anne Marie's.
Yep.
Wrong sister, sorry.
Wrong sister.
But my sister katiewent there, my brother Ryan
and John, so five of us, Isaid, I don't know how my
parents came up with all thismoney to send us to the to
the University Dayton.
Katie (18:17):
So what I'm hearing is the McDaids
are the Alumnus donors?
Fr. Pat (18:19):
My parents have a license plate, it's
magnificent, it says Flyers 5.
And then, On one carand it might be the
truck has five flyers.
Well, then my sisterssisters have the same thing
in Ohio you know,'cause two different
states, you can have thesame phrase.
And think there's one familythat might've had seven
from the same family go tothe University of dayton, but
I met the Marianistthere and here's the thing.
Great, great piece of advice forthose going to college.
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I was a history and politicalscience major, double major.
And then I ended up pickingup theology cause they were my
most amazing classes.
Okay.
The Marianist taughttake the best, most
challenging, most academicclasses you can, especially
with the best professors.
It doesn't matterif you need the subject.
It doesn't matterif you need that course.
If it's taught by someonewho's passionate and
good about what they'reteaching, you'll love it.
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I took classes ofsubjects I loved
with a mediocre professor,and it wasn't rewarding.
I took classes with Marianiststhat I never would have in
a million years would havetaken, but the Marianist
were passionate abouttheir classes were on fire.
I loved them.
I loved them.
And I mean, it was just,it was unbelievable.
So because of those Marianistteachers, I said, my dad
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might not have beena religious or a priest, but
he had the same passionteaching American history.
And that's how these brothersand priests were.
And I'm like, Iwant to become one of
these guys, So my vocationthat was nurtured at Holy Family
Parish deepened whenI went to college.
And I think I was at thatlevel where I was more
open and able to say,I want to give this a shot.
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and so it wasn't likehundred percent boom.
I knew I'm going to bea Marianist.
I'm going to be a priest.
But it was The directionI was going to give a shot.
I always ask married couples.
I said, how do you know?
And I've receiveddifferent answers and there's no
one that that is always the sameAlmost no one says
100 percent I knewI went with majority at 95 90.
I don't know that you canput a number on
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it when you know who you'regonna marry does it matter what
percent likely you really?
Do you want to get into thatgame?
No, you marry you celebrate thatnuptial that sacrament that
bond and you live your lifeof happiness and joy and
Allow God to transform you withthat grace same thing
with religioussame thing with my
experience at Dayton.
And so, you know, we hadlet's see, Louis Wiesner,
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Father Louis, FatherJohn Putka, Father Joe
Tedesco, Father Joe Kozar,Brother Jerry O'neill,
Brother Tom Oldensky all theseguys were Educators that taught
me in the classroomand they were characters.
They were amazing and I saidI want to follow
in their footsteps.
I knew I was open to becominga teacher and so 18 high schools
I've been in I think four ofthem four or five.
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Let's see.
My first assignment wasSt. Joe's in Cleveland,
up in on lake erie.
It's amazing.
I love my first five yearsin Cleveland the Vikings.
It was amazing.
So then ChaminadeJulian in Dayton then I went to
the seminary came back,Archbishop Reardon in San
Francisco,then after San Francisco,
Central Catholic in San Antonio,then I went to
Hawaii it's kind oflike military, five years
and instead of PCSing,we transfer, we move, and
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I asked once, I said, whydo we move so often?
They're like, You'rea young Marianist.
You're a young priest.
Everybody wants a dynamic youngpriest and we don't have
any others.
So you get to move around.
And then at a certain point,so when I was in Hawaii,
I was there notfor five years, but six got
an extra year because of covid.
You couldn't travel in that.
And then they said, okay, you'vereached your 25th Jubilee.
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Where do you want to go?
You've been a Marianist for 25years.
And I said, I want to goback to San Antonio, because
the, culture, theCatholicism, the students,
the families, thedepth of spirituality
is amazing.
I was talking to one of theparishioners here at Christmas
Eve, he's like, how'syour spanish coming along?
I well, not so good.
I said, I'm pretty goodat tamales and the food, but, He
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goes, Father,you're in San Antonio.
There's no excuse.
I said, I'm old now and I'm nota good student anymore.
He goes, that's my homeworkassignment for you.
of the things I love to give inhomilies.
is a homework assignment.
He's like, that's myhomework assignment.
He goes, Father, works bothways.
It works both ways.
I said, I liked that.
So I might give it a shot, but.
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I think I might, fullimmersion, maybe over a
couple summers, I can move toMexico.
And cause we have schoolsand parishes down in Mexico or
we're also, Ithink in Guatemala, El salvador,
South america, or Peru
Katie (22:24):
What would be the defining charism of a Marianist?
Fr. Pat (22:27):
So we take our inspiration from Mary
at the foot of the cross.
So Luke's Gospel, when we haveMary and the beloved disciple,
here's Jesus on the cross.
So our goal is to do whateverhe tells us.
So it's kind of, that'sfrom the wedding feast of Cana.
It's like a hybrid weddingfeast at cana, do whatever
he tells And then also Maryat the foot of the cross.
So if you could doa kind of a fusion of those two,
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what is Mary calling us to doto help her son,
our savior, be, known more,loved more and served more.
That's what Mary is.
So that's, that's weddingfeast of Cana, of course.
You know all thegreat sacraments are
around a celebrationjust have water being turned
into wine have a couple savingface with Not being
embarrassed by runningout and our blessed mother steps
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in saves daywith her actually she
directs her son jesus Yeah.
well and then at thefoot of the cross.
There's this thisintimate moment where
Jesus givesJohn to his blessed mother
and our blessed motherto John take care of my
mom, and I think that's what wedo.
In a maternal way like Mary,we can take care of our
fellow brothers and sistersin the church.
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And that's, that's everybody,we have a lot of people that are
Catholic and a lot of peoplethat aren't Catholic
yet, but what's our job toevangelize, to invite, to
reach out to somebody that,we can share what's
most important in our life,our faith.
We can share that with.
So we're always kindof evangelizing by our efforts,
by our example.
And so we're, we'redrawing people to Christ.
We're showing them thelove of our life and
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saying, come follow me.
And our blessedmother, I think she's
perfect as an examplefor doing that.
I was talking to a friend ofmine, he was going to preach
this Christmas morning.
I tried to go onlineand see if I could
find his homily,but he was like,
we have the samereadings every year
and I'm going to preachthis year on when
Mary's water brokeI'm like, I've never
thought about that.
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But we talk a lotabout the miracles of Jesus.
But that's the divinityside of Jesus
fully divine, but fullyhuman his humanity came
from our blessed motherShe might not have had
birthing pains because she waswithout sin But she still
had biology still the same.
She carried jesus in herwomb for nine months and her
water broke and gave birthto Jesus, breastfed Jesus.
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I mean, what a beautiful image.
Here's our blessed mother Likeour own mothers took care of us.
She's taking care of jesus.
the humanity of Jesus camefrom our blessed mother.
So I want to seewhat my friend was
preaching about becausethat could
help me become a better priestlike how do we put the human
side because at least myselfsometimes I tend to look more
at the divine fully divineside of Jesus and I don't
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negate or neglect, but Icould always emphasize just
as much that fully humanbecause the two go together
fully human
Katie (25:06):
and fully
Fr. Pat (25:06):
divine.
What a beautiful.
and Theological truth and soI want to see what he preached
about
Katie (25:12):
I do too.
Fr. Pat (25:13):
that's that's that's new territory
I don't know that any saint isuh, this might be
his path to holiness.
Katie (25:19):
You know, for Advent, I've
been reading Roy Gobleand he has, amazing reflections.
They make the journeyto Bethlehem very human,
Fr. Pat (25:30):
So it puts real eyes and
Katie (25:32):
So one of the, one of the, reflections are like,
what do you think the roadtrip snacks they took were,
you know?
I mean, it's a haul toget to Bethlehem.
So do you take jerky?
Fr. Pat (25:43):
I know.
Katie (25:43):
You can't stop at a gas station.
Fr. Pat (25:46):
Right well, they you know, like as
a hunter and a fishermanThey probably didn't have
walleye my favoritefish or venison jerky with
jalapeno and cheese.
But that would be enough tosustain the trip, you right.
What were their snacks?
mean, these arereal questions that you can
laugh and you can say wellnot significant But
you know what anytimewe grow And loving
and appreciating Jesus more Evenif it's through just a smile
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and a laugh on our face likewhat snacks they have.
Isn't that what it's all about?
Katie (26:14):
Yeah, or you think about the
annunciation, right?
And, it's more likeElizabeth was the loudmouth
cousin.
And so to hide Maryfrom being the unwed teenage
pregnancy, we sent her to thehill country, which is like,
to live with Elizabethfor three months so we
could just like hide her, andI'm thinking like, oh my
gosh, yeah, that's happenedall over the course of history.
Fr. Pat (26:36):
See, what I think, I have a little different take
on the visitation, I here'sthe angel Gabriel that came
to joseph and came toGabriel, and is helping both
of these guys understandthis is a miracle.
just the, the immaculateconception, she was
born without sin.
So her parents,Joachim and Anne,
okay, so she wasdestined for greatness.
Fast forward.
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To when she now is of childbirthing age, and
she's engaged, betrothedto Joseph, and all of a sudden
she's pregnant.
So, you know, amiraculous conception.
Gabriel had toexplain that to her.
But also, here's Elizabethin her older age.
We have two women that are bothexperiencing miracles.
Why not come together?
Family.
Cousins.
Why not come together and say,How good is God?
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isn't he amazing?
God is so unbelievable.
Both of us, both of us.
Take away the surprise, takeaway the angel Gabriel needing
to explain in various ways.
What a gift new life.
I don't knowabout you, but I love, I love
children, especially babies.
I love baptisms.
So here's a pitch.
Here's a kick Igotta give to all
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these young parents getyour babies baptized.
Don't wait.
I've heard well I'mgonna wait till they make
it to an age so they can makethe decision on their own
It's the worst thing you canpossibly do Are you gonna let
them pick their hour of curfewor what they're gonna eat
every night for dinner?
No, and that's fine It's farless important than baptism.
Baptize thosebambini, bring them to church,
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raise them in the faith.
This drives me crazy when theysay, well, when they're
of age, that means youdon't value and love your faith
like you should.
Let's work on that becausethese kids need to be
brought to church, needto be baptized, need to be
brought up with the faithand sorry, I had to go on a
little bit of a rant.
Katie (28:16):
Well, you know, as someone who teaches baptism
prep and RCIA to the kidsit's amazing to
see actually when,people start the process.
It's just a classI got to go to, or my
kids to class, but thentheir families start to
come into the picture,and we start to
actually live the faith.
It's really a precious walkwith people.
Fr. Pat (28:35):
And you want to understand how
delicate faith is.
Talk to families withchildren that are ill.
One of my first, when Iwas a seminarian and I
was just ordained, one ofmy first experiences was
having a CPE, a clinicalpastoral experience.
I was at St. Jude's inFullerton, California.
So catholic hospitalran by the sisters of
St. Joseph of Orange.
It's the most amazingpastoral experience.
I about quit a hundredtimes because it was so
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traumatic and, and toughand, you know, tears of
joy and tears of sadnessand lack of understanding,
but talk about learning how tobe a priest in the front lines.
I was in neonatal intensivecare for a week and
it was the oneof the most tender moments
with the nurses go beforeevery incubator and we
had babies that wereYou know five pounds
three pounds and the smallestIV's you've ever seen in your
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life and feeding tubes Andto see if they were gaining
a gram was a good sign we wouldsay prayers of thanksgiving
and if they were losing weightprayers of hope and in and then
being able to rockbabies when you're all
gowned up withyour ppe gear on and it
was one of them I'll neverforget those moments.
I think I was good forthe rest of my life
with homilies becauseI could just talk about
that experienceBut I think one of
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the appreciations wehave is how sacred life is
and, and how vulnerableand, but you see that with the
youth, you see that withthe elderly.
Why are we called to be prolife from cradle grave,
from womb to tomb?
Because that's whatit's all about.
We respect life at all ages.
I love St. John Paul II becauseone of the images he showed us.
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It was so hard to seewhen he had Parkinson's
and his hand was shakingand he was drooling
and his head was lean.
But one of the lessonshe gave us last lesson
he could last homily wasHow to honor and respect
life even at the endwhen the secular society
says, We can end this life.
Is that a life worth living?
Yes, it is.
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If nothing more than an examplefor us to say all life is sacred
St. John Paul II taughtus that lesson.
Was he perfect in his life?
No, isany saint besides our Blessed
Mother without sin, right?
Is any saint perfect?
No, but here's the thingThere's not a single saint
without a past and not asingle sinner without a future
I love thatbecause that's us, Katie.
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That's us, that's liferight there That's what
we're called to embrace.
That's why our faithis so amazing.
That's why it's just it'sthe best, We are where
we're at because of somany heroic and saintly men and
women and We're growing to bethat saint For others to look to
and model their life afterif we could if we can inspire
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others to want tobe a saint we're
doing something, right?
We could be the next FatherLouis or Sister Faith or
Sister Annette.
We could be the nextyou know Father Tom.
I remember.
Oh, here's a great story forHoly family
When I was, I might have beenfreshman or sophomore, and
Father Tom took us fishingon, the Maumee for walleye.
Father Tom Helfrich?
Yes, Father Tom helfrich.
He was substituting.
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I don't think he was at ourparish, but he might have been
up at the Oblate Novitiateat Vineyard Lake
And He was substituting at theparish and he's you want to go
fishing?
I'm like, do Iwant to go fishing?
Is the Pope Catholic?
Yes, I want to go fishing.
So we went downto, to the Maumee.
We went and we caught all kindsof fish.
And talk about vocation.
(31:44):
That'show you support vocations.
I wasn't yet in formation,but that did more for me
to show me the human sideof religious, to show me
like priests are normal.
I did get into alittle bit of trouble
with mom McDaid whenI brought the fish home and
I left them in the sinkand they're flopping.
all over the floor.
She's like Patrick Thomas.
McDaid what..
(32:05):
When you get the full name.
Katie (32:06):
At least it wasn't the confirmation name.
name
Fr. Pat (32:09):
so I picked Michael, if I had Patrick Thomas, Michael
McDaid that's a HBL moment, allhell breaking loose.
you.
know, that's,
Katie (32:17):
You're done.
Fr. Pat (32:18):
yeah, you're done.
You're done.
The only thing to do is to askfor forgiveness, And, you know,
mom and dad can give onefor it, but you
need that sacramental.
You're not going to Spendsome time in the sin bin
and say, forgive me fatherfor I've sinned.
Katie (32:31):
So that's interesting because, we do a kids camp here.
So we do six weeksin, the summer.
And then every daywe do a different activity.
and it'sthe same day every week.
So it's, pretty fun.
So father, Tom says, Oh, weshould take the kids fishing
next year.
I said, okay, so now we're goingto have to coordinate your
schedule and his schedule.
(32:52):
and and we'll take these kids.
We, We, probablyhad 30 kids at kids camp.
I mean, it's prettygood turnout, but yeah, so
we'll have to coordinatea fishing trip with, uh,
with the priest there.
Fr. Pat (33:03):
Yep.
Multiplication of the fish.
it is.
Katie (33:05):
And we, are working, on vocations
in a couple of different ways.
well, we have the Oblates alwayshere.
and Father Mike isreally gracious
to talk to people.
we also have prayer partners forour elementary kids
for our first communionkids, our first sacraments.
And, their prayer partners arethe Adrian Dominicans.
So we were able to find enoughsisters to be prayer partners
Fr. Pat (33:27):
Sure.
Katie (33:28):
the whole parish prays for them too, just like we
you were talking about ourconfirmation kids, our
prayer partners with ourolder parishioners.
so we partnered them up andthen the whole parish prays for
them as well, too.
We distribute those cardswith their names.
Fr. Pat (33:41):
Yep
Katie (33:41):
and then, Sister Katherine Frazier
will be coming on the podcast
Fr. Pat (33:45):
fantastic
Katie (33:46):
along with a couple of other sisters.
And, we're hopingto have some discussion
about human trafficking andand social justice issues
Fr. Pat (33:53):
You know, one of people you have to get on the podcast
is Sister Nancy Dominican.
Katie (33:58):
Oh, Murray.
She, yes.
Fr. Pat (33:59):
Yes.
she, she hasmemorized the life of St.
Catherine of Siena.
Yes And
Katie (34:04):
Yes.
Fr. Pat (34:04):
And talk about, about
Katie (34:05):
and Dorothy,
Fr. Pat (34:06):
Dorothy day?
Katie (34:07):
No, Brazilian.
Fr. Pat (34:08):
Dorothy stagg.
Wonderful.
She is, I mean, thisis the talent the Catholic
Church here in Lenawee County.
I mean, it's just amazing and,diverse, powerful, sacramental.
we have the good people.
And you know, god'scalling everybody to holiness.
We're all called be saints.
And, and, the listeners ofthe podcast that if there's
(34:28):
one takeaway is, okay,where's God calling me
this day and every day,how do I become a saint?
Where am I goingto use the talents
I've been given to deepenTo deepen that faith
hope and love of Jesus.
what it's about,
Katie (34:41):
You know, Patrick,
Fr. Pat (34:41):
Millions of ways to do it right
Katie (34:43):
perfect ending to podcast right there
Fr. Pat (34:45):
We ran out of time?
Katie (34:46):
Well that line just, I don't know how we follow that
Fr. Pat (34:49):
I know.
Good point
Katie (34:50):
I cannot thank you enough for joining us today
in the Open Seat.
Fr. Pat (34:53):
This was my first podcast
so I'm excited I was a littlenervous coming over I'm
like, I've never done thisbefore but this is Katie Love
she's gonna take care of meand it's gonna be a great day
and that'sthat's been my experience.
Thank you continue.
I look forward to this This issuch a a gift for the parish and
a way for you to give backto the Catholic community
Katie (35:12):
We are blessed to sit at the feet of Jesus's disciples.
Fr. Pat (35:17):
Amen.
Can we finish with a prayer?
In thename of the Father and the
Son and the Holy Spirit.
Amen.
Lord Jesus, we thank youfor Holy Family Parish.
We thank you forOpen Seat podcast and
this opportunity to evangelizeand hear from local saints
in progress.
Continue to shower yourgrace upon all those
(35:39):
who sit behind the mic.
All those who listen to thispodcast and Lord, may we all
continue to spread your faith,hope, and love, throughout
all of our lives, we ask thisin your name now and forever.
Amen.
In the Father, Son, and HolySpirit.
Amen.
Once again, we thank youfor joining us today.
(36:00):
We hope that wherever youfind an open seat in your
life, you will invitesomeone to join you.
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