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March 24, 2023 65 mins

Jeremy Grummet, MBBS, Master of Surgery, FRACS is a urologist in Melbourne, Australia and a world leader in prostate cancer imaging and diagnostics.  He is also a deep thinker and deeply interested in the wellbeing of surgeons and his colleagues.  Our conversation meanders through personal struggle, burnout or "spin" as Dr. Grummet calls it, mental illness, and emotional challenges associated with life and surgery.  Core concepts of modeling vulnerability, the dichotomy between being a caregiver and a recipient of care, as well as self care are woven throughout the conversation.  Jeremy is a master of thought and process, you will love this conversation.

Some of the books and references discussed:
School of Life, by Alain de Botton
Waking Up, by Sam Harris
Thriving Doctor, by Sharee Johnson
Know Thyself, by Craig Hassed

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