The Best, The Busts, and The Sleepers | Tight Ends - Operation Domination Football

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We do have replacing him today is a very very
special guest that we must introduce, Fantasy.

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Football expert for.

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There it is that made my day.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
He thanks for having me. This is this is great.
I'm so excited to talk about tight ends with you guys.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
I'm so happy to have you on.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Stace, one of our new friends we made from the
Fantasy Football Expo. I think I've been bringing this up
like every single week now, but just another reason why
you guys got to come out to the Expo in
last week of July again next year. All the connections
that we get to make, it's absolutely wonderful. So, Stace,
you just mentioned it. We're talking tight ends today. We're
wrapping up this this Best this Bus, the Sleeper series

(02:11):
that we've been working on all August, trying to get
people the values that they're looking for for their draft weekends,
the last and the biggest one coming up on Labor
Day weekend, and tight ends is one of those stricky positions.
It's one of those ones where you're trying to think,
do I want a top notch guy to not stream?

Speaker 4 (02:28):
Do I want to stream down low? Which one wins
more championships?

Speaker 3 (02:32):
Let me get your thoughts on the philosophy of drafting
a tight end off the gate.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Yeah, So, I mean, if I can't get one of
the top three right off the bat, I'm gonna push
it and I'm gonna push it as far as I
possibly can, because you know, I mean, at the end
of the day, you know you've got your Bowers, Mcbrian Kittle.
Those guys are going to stand out. Those guys are
going to produce at the level of the wide receivers
that you're going to be taking within that range, right,
the rest of those guys are going to be pretty

(02:58):
touchdowndependent for the most part, So you know you've got
to watch out for that. So I just I kind
of prefer to kind of push it a little bit.
If I'm not going to go grab one of the top.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
Three, I tend to agree with you, especially this year.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
Now, usually in past years in Chase, you can correct
me if I'm wrong, but it's been like Travis kelcey.
And if you don't get Travis kelce then why am
I even bothering taking a tight end to the tenth round.
I mean, that's kind of how we looked at it.
But this year we got three guys hanging around that spot.
How are you navigating that?

Speaker 1 (03:28):
No, I kind of always tend to lean toward trying
to grab an early tight end one of the elite guys,
And so yeah, I did a lot of drafting Travis
Kelcey in the late first or the second round back
in his absolute heyday. But I agree completely that's how
I want to run it this year. I am going
to get one of those top three tight ends because
I want that positional advantage that they give you at

(03:52):
once you get past them. There is quite a drop
off in terms of points. Yeah, the lower tiers, there's
just not that much separation. So if I don't get
those top three, yeah, I'm willing to wait and push it.
But then when I do push it, when I do
look for a guy later, what I want to look
for is one of those guys that, like the three
that we've talked about, is going to be or at

(04:13):
least has a path to be in one of the
top two pass targets on his team. And I think
that there are a few guys that can fill that role. McBride, Bowers,
and Kittle. I don't think any of us disagrees that.
Right now, those three guys are all at least in
the top two, if not the top target on their team.
So that's what I'm looking for later as well. But
there's a drop off after those top three. I tend

(04:34):
to be an elite tight end guy. I tend to
also try to be an elite quarterback guy, which means
you've got to be really savvy at the other positions.
But yeah, I like having that positional advantage there right
off the bat.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
Does a take for you?

Speaker 3 (04:47):
Chases in draft, running backs and wide receivers, just quarterbacks
and tight ends form all day of the week.

Speaker 4 (04:51):
I love it, Chase.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
So talking about those top three consensus wise, it's been Bowers,
it's been McBride, it's been kittle interesting going into the show,
all three people on this panel have a completely different order.
We all have McBride number one. Stacy, tell me why
McBride not brock Bowers is number one on your list.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
So here's some fun facts about Tray McBride and brock
Bowers from last season. So, did you guys know that
they were separated by one tenth of a fantasy point
in their points per game production last or one tenth?
That's it? Also they had If you look at their
stats too, it's almost I mean, it's just incredible how
close they are in every single category except touchdown. It's

(05:35):
a little bit different, right because me McBride only had
two touchdowns that he got towards the end of the season.
So if you're looking at the stats, the production and
everything like that, and then you're looking at their ADP,
you've got Bowers going as seventeenth guy off the board
right now. And then you take a look and you're like, well,
where is it that Bride going? And you're looking at
twenty seventh off the board. So if I can get

(05:55):
almost a full round later and still take a guy
who's going to give me almost nearly the same production
that the top China is going to potentially give me,
why wouldn't I take Trey McBride instead of Brock Howers.
And also, not much changed in Arizona this year, right
going into the season. A lot of things changed in Vegas,

(06:16):
and I don't think that that's going to really have
a lot of effect on Brock Powers, but there is
you've got to feed gent now and now you've got
a Marii Cooper in there fighting for targets. Who knows
what's going to go on with Jacobe Myers, you know.
So I think there's more wiggle room there in Vegas
than there is in Arizona, and that offense is going
to run through McBride all day long. So that's why

(06:37):
it's McBride for me.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
Well, and we just get a little touchdown regression.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
I mean the touchdowns was near nine last season, he
only got two. Now, this has been the running thing
for him, right, Chase, because he was much lower than
expected the previous year too, Like it's been an issue,
but the opportunities have been there. I mean, where he's
getting plus twenty red zone targets, he's getting twenty four
percent of the end zone targets for his team. Like

(07:03):
everything is there for him to just pop. And if
he were to just pop, I mean, we're talking about
a guy who would be producing as a wide receiver
one essentially, So we want to see if that could happen.
And Chase, I also want you to see get your
feedback on this point too. Stacey just kind of mentioned it.
Some things changed with the Raiders. You know, me, Chase especially,
I'm not a fanship Kelly. I don't trust the guy

(07:24):
as far as I could throw him at all. And
what we saw the last time that he was a
head coach, I'm looking back at the Philadelphia Eagle time
he was splitting time at the tight end position between
Brent Sellick and Earth like almost.

Speaker 4 (07:42):
Fifty to fifty.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
By the way, it wasn't necessarily like this, It was
almost fifty fifty. So Chase, let me get your thoughts
on that.

Speaker 4 (07:48):
Well.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
No, I love the point Stacy that that things have
changed in in Las Vegas, and there are there are
a lot of There are a lot of mouths to
feed there. There really are. They brought in, They drafted
Jack John tay Thornton. Is all we've heard about this
preseason from you know, from Las Vegas. Uh, they still
have Myers. They just brought in. As you mentioned to
Mary Cooper, there's a lot of there's a lot of

(08:10):
wiggle room there for for where Gino Smith can go
with the ball on top of heaving gen d and
on top of the new quarterback in Geno Smith. I
think that past game. I'm indifferent to Chip Kelly. I
know you don't like Chip Kelly. You had to deal
with him for a year in San Francisco, which is
probably coloring.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
A year did not happen. I already blocked it out,
by the way.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
He had Garrett Cellec on that team as well. So
Chip Kelly likes the selic Boys brothers. But no, I
like that that idea because, like you said, McBride is
coming back to essentially the same situation, same running games,
same quarterbacks, same receiving corps. I mean, and he we
already know he's going to eat in that system. Now

(08:52):
when we talk about his touchdown regression, I'm a big
fan of the idea of touchdown regression, but we also
do have to keep in mind he only caught two
touchdowns last season. He got credit for two others rushing
is essentially because he fell on a fumble or two there.
So he really he did score four touchdowns, which wouldn't
if people look at it that way. It wasn't so
egregious that he only scored two.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
Variant its widest right right.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
I mean, but you, like you said, with nine expected touchdowns,
there is going to be some regression that there should be.
There has to be. He's got another full year under
his belt with with Kyler Murray. I think the sky's
the limit for McBride. I think that he could challenge
for the league lead in targets, you know, in the
right circumstances there. But I just, yeah, I worry a
little bit about Bowers and that in that Las Vegas

(09:41):
game as they find themselves with the new quarterback and
the play caller and all of the you know, figuring
out how all of these targets and all these touches
are going to shake out among this you know, wide
ranging group that they have there. So that's why, Yeah,
McBride is all day long for me, my top guy.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
All right, well I love that. Now here's the deal.
We have mc bride, we have Bowers. What about the
guy who actually was the tight end one last year.
I'm just saying, my boy, George Kittle, who came rolling
in with a thirteen point two points per game, He's
got a pathway to be the number one target this season.
I love Ricky Piarsoll, don't get me twisted, but there's
a pathway for George Kittle.

Speaker 4 (10:18):
It'll be the number one target on that team.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
Right now, with how everything's shaken out, the brand Ayuke injury,
we don't know Jawan Jennings is holding in or is
actually hurt.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
I'm actually leaning towards the guy might be really hurt
right now, to be honest with you.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
When they're talking about the IR he's had a nine
point nine percent touchdown rate since Brock Purdy has taken
over back in Week fifteen on twenty twenty two, party
and Kittle just equals touchdowns, I mean thirty one percent
of the end zone targets. It's absolutely insane to use
that she gets when you need them to the most,
and he's you can get him thirty seventh overall. I mean,

(10:50):
we're talking third round here for George back in third
round for George Kittle.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
I don't stay see what's your thoughts. I'm the fy
nine Ers fan, so I have to give it to
somebody objective.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
So I love George Kittle. I mean just from a
football wise, He's one of my favorite tight ends to
just watch on Sundays. Right. But yeah, I mean, like
he's gonna be it's gonna be McBride, Bauers or Kittle.
And you've got somebody here who's got like a twenty
point six percent target chair from last season. And then
you've got Ricky Piertzal and who else. Like you said,
we have no idea. I am getting a little concerned

(11:20):
about Juwan Jennings. I thought maybe getting a paycheck might
make that CAF injury a little bit better. But now
I'm starting to worry too. So who else is he
gonna throw to? You know, they're so I just I
mean George Kittle honestly, Like I think besides McBride might
be set up to have like the just another year
of exactly what he did last season.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
I like it a lot. Now here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
Unlike Chase, I'm all in on my guys, my team
that are actually good, but he's not in on his
guys on his team from the Packers. This is gonna
make this next debate really really interesting. With Tucker Craft.
Stacy's got Tucker Craft in her top five who's also

(12:07):
a Packers fan or one of yeah, the other the
resident Packers fan on this on this show has Tucker
Craft in his bus list, Like go take it away, Jase.
I mean, I gotta hear the bus bar first, and
then we gotta hear Stacy Bull. Okay, you want to
hear the bus part first.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Here's here's Okay, Well, listen, like you said, I love
I love Tucker Craft, I do. I love him a lot.
And he's one of those guys that I'm so excited
to have on my real life team. And I've got
him a ton of places in dynasty. I've got him
all over the place in dynasty. Okay, but here's the thing.
Last year, Okay, seventy targets. That's that's pretty good, that's

(12:49):
not too bad. He caught fifty of them. He catches
a high percentage of his targets. He's still in half
PPR settings. He only scored you you know, eight points
a game, and he had seven touchdowns. He had I'm
going to talk about touchdown you know, ridiculousness later and
if to being too efficient that way, one out of
every seven catches. He had fifty receptions, seven touchdowns. That's

(13:10):
going to be tough to duplicate. Okay. Then I add
on top of that the idea that we still have
the same questions about this Green Bay passing attack in
terms of fantasy wise as we did last year. In
my opinion, where is that kind is all of that passing?
You know, is all of their passing output going to
consolidate around one or two guys or do they continue

(13:31):
to spread it out all over the place. It was
a super spreader offense last year. And some of this
is a you know, having not really having Jordan Love
for the first month, most of the first month of
the season. But this team ranked like twenty seventh in
the league and pass attempts, it was like ridiculous. They
they didn't pass the ball a lot. They want to
run the ball. I think they want to pass the

(13:51):
ball more than they did last year when Jordan's healthy.
But this is a team that wants to run a ball.
They still have eighty six different targets to you know,
throw out there and share. And oh, by the way,
Luke Musgrave was hurt for all but about three games
last year, and Luke Musgrave is healthy this season as well,
so there is another tight end they can throw in
the mix. I just think that Tucker Craft is being

(14:13):
drafted around where, you know, around where he finished last season,
and I think probably about where his ceiling is. I
don't really see where more targets, where more touchdowns, where
more catches, where more yards come for him out of
this offense, And so I worry. I've heard his name
over the place, and I'm not disagreeing that he can
be a top ten, top twelve option. I disagree that

(14:35):
he can be a top five because I just don't
see him being able to get the workload to carry
him above the next four or five six guys in
front of him to reach that top five.

Speaker 4 (14:44):
So all right, Stacy, why is he wrong?

Speaker 2 (14:47):
All right? So, I mean I might be a little
higher than the consensus on Tucker Craft. I am a
Packer fan as well, So go pack go this. Let
me tell you why. Let me just make my case
here for Tucker Craft, Mac and cheef, that's how I
refer to him. Yep, Jordan Love is going to be
healthy this season. He's coming in. We're not gonna have
to deal, you know, knock on wood, right with those

(15:08):
injuries that we dealt with all last year. Okay, now
we've got another year of Matt Lafleur, of him being
able to run the offense the way he wants to
without dearly departed Aaron Rodgers, you know, getting in there
and mixing everything up, right, So we have him in
full control. So we've got those things. We've got it
set up for Tucker Craft to be come in and
be the consistent, the reliable target, the healthy target. Right

(15:31):
because like right now, name a wide receiver on the
Packers who's not injured, because I can't name one other
than Matthew Golden right, So Matthew Golden's gonna come in,
He's gonna do what he does. He's gonna get down
the field, get down there super fast. But you got
to be able to throw it to somebody else. And
that's going to be Tucker Craft until everybody else gets healthy.
And of course, do they want to run the ball, like, yeah,
I mean you got Josh Jacobs. Of course you want

(15:52):
to run the ball. If you got Josh Jacobs, right,
there's nobody behind him. He can't run it every single play,
you know, Marshawn Lloyd on the IR so he's out.
Who else we got back there? Emmanuel Wilson, Chris Brooks,
is Hebanacanada. I'm not excited about any of those guys,
all right. Sorry, you know Packer's backfield. So that's why
I'm looking at Tucker Kraft. You gotta look at this guy.

(16:13):
I mean, he was incredibly efficient last year. He led
all tight ends in yards after the catch per reception.
He's very explosive. You know, he did get he got
in there. He got those seven touchdowns, right, yeah, seven
touchdowns last year, which is right up there, you know,
beside behind Andrews and Kittle and Johnny Smith and those guys.

(16:36):
So I does have a feeling that they're going to
rely on him to be their solid, consistent option. So
I think that he has that opportunity. Whether or not
he ends the year in top five, who knows, but
I think he ends it a little bit higher than
where he's being draft. And I think he's a really
good option for those of you that do like to
punt tight end. You know, he's a guy that's going

(16:57):
to have that opportunity available to him. So that's kind
of that's that's kind of my spiel for Tucker Craft,
and I think he has that potential to get to
the top five. All right.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
But before I rule on who wins is debate Chase,
where do you have him ranked at?

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (17:15):
I have to I'm still working on rankings after all
the news that we got here from from you know,
cuts and signings and trades in that. But I have
him right there at at eleven.

Speaker 4 (17:23):
I have him right at eleven, So you have him
right at ADP.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
If essentially, yeah, but I worry I am if you
have him ranked right at AP that's not a terrible point.
I'll take that. I just my feeling is like I said,
I have I keep hearing I keep hearing him so much.
I think people are taking him at that ADP thinking
that they're going to end up then getting David and

(17:50):
Joku type numbers. Okay, and I and I I worry
people are are putting their faith in the wrong place.
I worry that I worry that it's causing people to
plan and their team's wrong.

Speaker 4 (18:03):
Okay, you lose.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
I love him as a player, pick hit, We're done.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
He's got him a bus. He rakes the brain where
ADP is. He can't be a bus all right. So anyway,
let's look, we still have more debates to have here
because me and Chase we gotta go at it now.

Speaker 4 (18:26):
So here's one.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
So Chase doesn't like Tucker Kraft, but he does love
his divisional rival Sam Laporta. You know, it's okay, it's
fantasy football. We all have to have our our lines
in the sand of what we're willing to cross for.

Speaker 4 (18:38):
So I got the Sam laport as a bus. You
got him in your top five.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
And by the way, Chase, you are with ADP again
as far as the stalingport right now, his ADP is
is tightened four and to be clear here, I'm not
saying Sam laport is gonna go fall off.

Speaker 4 (18:53):
A cliff somewhere. I got him a tight end eight.
I just think he's underachieve from where you're drafting it.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
If you're drafting him with the top five pick, you're
rafting him within the first five rounds. I don't want
Sam Laporta in the first five rounds. I don't see
the upside there. I mean, he was tight end ninth
last season, wildly inconsistent from week to week, and is
the epitome of what we talk about all the time
that you should avoid in fantasy football, and that's recency bias.

(19:19):
He didn't get hot until the end of the season
here and his playoff weeks double digit's top five tight
end all three of the playoff weeks. That's what I
think people are remembering. They're not remembering the fact that
when Jamison Williams consistently involved and aman ross ain't, Brown
was out one hundred percent and not a little bit
nicked up, that he wasn't seeing the targets. All I've
heard this entire offseason is now Jamison Williams has taken

(19:42):
another step right. We talked about this last week with
Huch Brown. He was on both of our sleeper lists.
With Hutch, He's taken another step as a route runner,
more target share. We know Aman Ross Saint Brown is
going to get his. Someone's got to get left out,
someone's got It's.

Speaker 4 (19:57):
Still gonna be a run heavy team. Someone's gotta get left.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
I think more weeks than not is gonna wind up
being stam Laporta look for an elite tight end. To
be a top five guy, you're looking for a twenty
percent target share, You're looking for a twenty percent airyard share,
you're looking for about twenty red zone targets, and you're
looking for about twenty two percent.

Speaker 4 (20:14):
Of end zone target share. He doesn't meet any of
those from last season. Sixteen percent target share, nineteen percent
air yard share, one point eight yards per rout run
that needs to be over two. Nothing added up to
him being an elite tight end.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
Even the metrics, So I got it was a tight
end eight somebody was probably not gonna wind up drafting.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
Tell me why I'm wrong, Chase so I was.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
A big Sam Laporter truther last year. I believed in him.
I really thought that that he had what it takes.
To remain up there towards the top of the tight
end rankings, And honestly, if you look at his production
from an efficiency standpoint last season, he honestly performed better
from an efficiency standpoint last season on a on a
per target basis than he did the year before, when

(21:00):
he was the number one tight end allcross the board.
He was eight points per game. He said he was
number nine overall. Yeah, but he actually caught a higher
percentage of the targets that were thrown to him. He
had a higher yards per target and yards per reception
than he had in his rookie season. His fantasy points
per target increased last season. His touchdowns per target. That
was one of the big things that a lot of

(21:21):
people argued with him last year was, oh, we're going
to see touchdown regression. Touchdown regression because he got ten
touchdowns in his rookie season. He had seven touchdowns last year,
which sounds like touchdown regression. The regression with him wasn't.
In fact, he caught a higher percentage of touchdowns per
target last season than he did in his rookie season.
All his efficiency actually performed very well compared to his

(21:45):
rookie season. The problem was he went from one hundred
and twenty targets to eighty three. Now I say it
a lot on this show, I'm going to say it again.
Do I think he's necessarily a one hundred and twenty
hundred and thirty target type tight end. Not in this offense,
not with all the rest of the weapons they had,
Not with Jamiir Gibbs being an integral part, not just
a peripheral part, but an integral part of this passing game.

(22:07):
But I think the truth is somewhere in the middle.
I say it all the time. The truth might be
somewhere in the middle. If he gets somewhere near upper
nineties to one hundred targets, he's right up there in
the top five last year based on the points per
target that he that he was getting. This this is
still a team that had Jamiir Gibbs had sixty three
targets last year. Montgomery had thirty six, Saint Brown had

(22:28):
one hundred and forty one. Williams already had ninety one
targets as a number two receiver on that team. Now
they just did traight away Tim Patrick. He's leaving forty
four targets behind. But who's to say that those are
all coming out of or going to any one guy.
I just think that we've you know, that there is

(22:48):
room there for Laporta to get a few more targets.
If he gets a few more targets, and we don't
know yet because we haven't seen this offense without Ben
Johnson yet. I think that there's room there for him
to be in that top five because his performance dictates
that he's capable of it. All he needs is just
a few more targets. And I think, like I said,
I don't think he's one hundred and thirty hundred and
twenty target time guy, but I think he can be
a ninety to one hundred type target guy. And if

(23:11):
that happens, I don't see any way that he's not
tight end five.

Speaker 4 (23:14):
Did you just try to hit me with Tim Patrick?
Like really, like.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
I'm hitting you with the fact that they just got
rid of they just traded away for I think targets
from last season, Tesla.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
Yeah, okay, Stacey, tell me who wins this debate?

Speaker 2 (23:29):
Well, okay, So, just to complete disclosure, I cannot be
trusted to be impartial when it comes to Sam Laporta
because he made me look like an absolute genius his
rookie year. I was high on him everywhere, So I
will forever be indebted to Sam Laporta. But like you know,
he came out out the gate of his rookie year,
showed us exactly what he was capable of. And how
can he not regress last season? Right, You're not going

(23:51):
to repeat the same kind of numbers that you had
with his outstanding rookie year. You're just not. It's not
going to happen. So, of course, if you're looking at
it like that, of course last season would have been
a dispointment for him. Anything beyond that was going to
be disappointing. I have him kind of in the same
range as a Tucker Craft dish for me. I think
he's probably a little bit more talented. But you know, Chase,
like you said, you know, in that offense, there's way

(24:12):
too many miles to feed for him to really shine
the way he would maybe in like a packer offense
or somewhere where there's not as many you know, offensive
weapons there. So I just I don't think that he's
going to be a bust. I don't think he's going
to be a top five again, not with the level
of guys that are out there, but I think he's
another one that you can get really good value at now.

(24:33):
I mean he is going at tight end for so
that's probably a bit high. It's a little bit high
for me, honestly, So I don't know that I would
take him there, but I do think that he has
potential to you know, really just shine. He's going to
get those touchdowns, He's going to get the opportunities there.
And especially I guess what happens like if Jmo gets hurt,
you know, because that's that's really what happened his rookie year,

(24:53):
is that Jamo he was hard or suspended. I can't
remember exactly where that fell, right, but that's when he eight.
You know a lot of times when when you had
that second guy missing. Now, of course, like you said,
we've got Isaac to slaws, So we don't know what
he's going to be capable of this year. Hopefully it's
a lot, because I've taken him in the last rounds
of like just about every draft I'm.

Speaker 4 (25:11):
In look at, I mean, for Tesla's their purposes.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
Tyler Bradley, big fan, you know our guy here the
Fantasy Football Network. So figure, we give him a shout out,
and yeah, he's been looking a lot better, a lot
faster than I was, frankly anticipating it was a big reason,
like you said, why they got rid of Tim Patrick. Yeah, okay,
I'm gonna take the win on that, Chase. Just so
we're clear here, I'm just kidding, all right. So there's

(25:39):
some other guys that I want to mention real quick.
I want to squeeze this guy in and then we
we'll move over to the bus conversation. But David Nijoku, Chase,
you would not got him in our top five.

Speaker 4 (25:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
So, and this is somebody who you talk about the
Tucker Crafts of the world. That's the range he's going,
and he's going more towards the back end, tight, intense,
and we'll get Stacey's a cittying on this too.

Speaker 4 (25:57):
But I mean, Chase, you're even more ballsy. I mean,
you got him a number four. I had him number five.
What's going on here?

Speaker 1 (26:03):
Well? I love him. I love him with Flacco, and
that I mean that they're in is like, that's the road,
right If he can get Flacco for most of this season,
I think that he takes off to the Moon because
he's such a good pass catcher, and Flacco is the
only quarterback that that team has rostered in the last
thirty years. It seems like that can actually throw the
ball and find David and Joku. Who is who should

(26:24):
be their top weapon? I mean the Chief burned his
face off and played the next week for crying out loud.
This guy's tough. He plays well, But his competition for
targets on that team is Jerry Judy, Cedric Tillman, and
a rookie behind him at his own position, Harold Fannin Jr.
That's a not a lot of competition for targets. His

(26:45):
numbers with Flacco that we all remember from two years
ago at the end of the season when Flaco came
in and went on his magic five game, eight thousand touchdowns,
six and a half thousand interception run, was that he
scored fifteen point two half PPR points with Flacco as
the quarterback. It was almost four points better than Laporter
was and two points better than what Kittle was last season.

(27:08):
Was he was on a gigantic pace with Flacco. Now
does that hold for sixteen to seventeen games, Probably not,
But he played sixteen games that season, only five of
them with Flacco, and scored almost half of his points
with Flacco that season. I think that this is a
connection that is gonna work, It's gonna run. I love it,
And he already in twenty twenty three with Flacco for

(27:30):
part of the season, finished as sixth overall tight end,
seventh in points per game. Last season he was eleventh overall,
but he only played eleven games. He was fourth in
points per game already, the guy has it in him
with the mish mash of ridiculousness that was thrown to
him last year, he already finished fourth in points per
game with a actual competent halfway quarterback thrown to him.

Speaker 4 (27:51):
Sky's a limit.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
Let me bowlst to the point with the ridiculousness that
he had at the quarterback position last season, because remember
he only played eleven games, but his seventeen game pace
was one hundred and fifty eight touchdowns. Garbage with Deshaun
and it didn't matter if it was DeShawn Watson, it
didn't matter if it was dtr it didn't matter if
it was Jamas Winston. The guy was putting up crazy

(28:13):
target share the entire time with Burns on his face
as you wanted to mention there.

Speaker 4 (28:17):
Now his his mettricks. Outside of that, we're not great.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
I mean we're talking twelve percent ariyards share, and I
think he had like a ridiculous one point fivey five
yards per out run. He was getting thrown the ball
five yards passed the line of scrimmage and not able
to do much with it. That's ultimately what it boiled
down to. I don't care if his Joe Flacco. I
don't care if it's Dling Gabriel, I don't care if
it's Sadr Sanders. I think every one of them will
perform better than a dt R or Deshaun Watson was
going to do last season. For David Djoko, it's the

(28:43):
literally the only Browns player I care about in fantasy.
I don't know, Stacy, clearly we're fired up about this.
Where are you at on David Djoku?

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Yeah, I'm co signing everything with David Njoku. He's one
of my favorite guys. And now especially that he's got
you know, the so we've got a competent quarterback back there,
I like him even more. I'm not sold on Jerry
Judy in that offense. Really in any offense, and then
they're state toldman, who I do like? But niw jok,
who's going to command or he should be the one
commanding all the targets there in that offense. I yeah,

(29:14):
absolutely agree with everything there.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
When Nijoku all right, love it, So stay, let's go
back to you as we kind of transition all the
way into our busts.

Speaker 4 (29:23):
But we do agree on this player. So Evan Ingram, which.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
And another one that I can't believe all three of
us on this panel agree with everybody else is pushing
this guy up to be the tight End seven. Everybody
wants him to be the Sean Payton joker. Everybody wants
him to be the big mismatch playmaker, and yet none
of us, none of us have him at ADP with
him making all of our bust lists.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
You have him on the highest on your bus list.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
So I want you to take this away, Okay, So
right now, right he's going eighth overall tight ends and
he's got, you know, the joker role. Whatever that's going
to mean for Sean Payton. A lot of injury concerns
last year at hamstrings shoulder injury, finished tight End thirty
four overall in fantasy because of those injuries. Twenty twenty
three was his career season, and that was by a lot.

(30:06):
When you go back and you look at every year
that he's played, he had one hundred and fourteen targets receptions, sorry,
never had more than seventy three before. No one in
the Denver offense last year had over one hundred receptions.
Courtland Sutton was their top reception get or he had
eighty one. Okay, the tight end finished her last year,

(30:27):
Sam Laforida, he had six year receptions, seven touchdowns and
then in full PPR right, ten point nine points perking.
So if Ingram can replicate those numbers, that's what he's
gonna have to do basically to pay off his draft
capital where he's going. And I just don't see it
in the Denver offense, right, Your next highest player behind
Sutton as far as reception goes with Davonte Williams with

(30:47):
fifty two. That's disgusting, that's gross, right. I think Ingram's
more talented than a lot of the guys that Nick
was throwing to last year, other than Sutton, but I
just don't know that he's capable of paying off that value.
I think it would take a lot for him to
replicate twenty twenty three, And I mean that was his
career season, so I just think that was an outlier.

(31:08):
When you look at his stats and what he's done
the majority of his career, that year stands out. So
I think you have to take the approach of like
what's most likely to happen. Is he going to replicate
his career year or is he going to kind of
regress to where he typically sits? And I think that's
probably the most likely thing to happen. You know, over
his seven seasons, he's finished his tight end fourteen. He's

(31:29):
popped about three seasons and finished in the top six.
But that's really kind of you know, like I said,
those are going to be his best years. So and
also he's thirty one, he's over thirty. I know tight
ends age a little bit differently than you know, you're
running back to wide receivers. But still, it's just none
of it really gives me the confidence to want to
take him as the aid.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
Overall, I got my tight end fifteen. I'm not even
really looking at him as a top twelve tight end
at all. He was fourteenth in points per game last
season from week six to fourteen he was even healthy,
and that was with an elite targets share like he's
at Onlee Targish for the last couple of years. He's
not an efficient tight end. This isn't a guy who's
had more than six touchdowns in his career at any
point in time. This this isn't a guy who gets

(32:10):
over two yard per route run. This isn't a guy
who gets over a twenty percent air yard share. I mean,
he's David Njoku but even less sexy somehow. And I
love that, Stacey. I love that you brought the point
that other than Courtland sided like no one's sniffing volume
in that offense. Sean Payton, I don't know where people
still think that he is Sean Payton of Drew Brees
days back in like twenty ten.

Speaker 4 (32:32):
I don't understand it.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
We have ten years of DATD now where Sean Payton
is conservative and is run first as they can possibly get,
and it's still we get uber excited about these guys
who come in who are like, oh, but what if
he could beat the Michael Thomas, what if he could
be the Jimmy Griff. He doesn't play that way anymore?

Speaker 4 (32:47):
Is that what he does? Chase? What do you got?

Speaker 2 (32:50):
No?

Speaker 1 (32:50):
I agree completely, And you know, people forget they drafted R. J. Harvey,
they brought in JK. Dobbins. Like you just said, this
is a team that wants to run the ball anyway
they now. I will give Peyton and the Broncos credit
because bow Knicks looked better than I ever thought he
would last year. He really did. I'm not a giant
bow Knicks fan. He looked much better than I ever

(33:12):
thought he would last season. Yeah, I never saw him
as being fantasy relevant, to be honest with you. Let
alone you know what we got out of him. But
they had an absolute healthscape at tight End. They had
nobody it was any good there. Uh. At least he'll
be able to consolidate what they do at tight End.
But I just I just don't see it. I agree

(33:32):
with you, Stacy. I don't see where he's supposed to
make up all of this ground to jump himself up
to be a legitimate top eight guy. Even in even
if he was in Sean Payton's offense from a long
time ago, because he would have been behind Jimmy Graham.
He's not Jimmy Graham.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
Yeah, yeah, there's another Buss player that we all agree on.
This one hurts me a little bit though, because I'm
waiting for this to come and it's just it's not
common yet. But Stacy don't again. Somebody we all have
is our bus right now. ADP tight end thirteen, tight
end twelve. A lot of people want to talk him
up again, you know, year three of this, you know,

(34:09):
draft doll and Kincaid stuff.

Speaker 4 (34:10):
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna do it this year.
I me at sixteen, where do you have him?

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Yeah? So I'm pretty low on him as well, and
I it hurts my heart too because I was so
high on him last year when he came out of
that you know the draft, that super talented guy going
to Buffalo. What a great spot with a good offense
for him to be in. But he just really hasn't,
you know, gone that.

Speaker 4 (34:31):
Way for him.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
He had, he had a good year his first year's work. Hey,
everybody kind of fell off last season, you know, he
regressed really hard. You know, he finished his tight end
twelve his rookie season, but then fell all the way
down to tight end twenty nine his targets decreased, he
only got in the end zone twice, the Bills only
run twelve personal sets and one of the fewest rates
in the league. And then you still got Dawson Knox

(34:51):
back there, who's involved enough just to be annoying. So
it for me, you know, I mean, I guess it's
kind of hard to say like anybody who's going as
tight end thirteen is really a US because you know,
you're out of the top twelve at that point. But
I just, you know, kind of took a look at this,
and this really surprised me about the Bills to today.
They only threw for fifty two percent of the time

(35:12):
in twenty twenty four, which was twenty eighth overall, and
then if you take a look at twenty twenty three stats,
they were twenty seventh overall with fifty four percent. So
we're seeing like a trend in Buffalo there. They obviously
want to run the ball, Josh Allen, James Cook, that's
what they're doing first. And I don't really see enough
change to give me any positive vibes that Kincaid will
take this third year and it will be his breakout

(35:32):
year like we typically see with the tight end position well, and.

Speaker 4 (35:36):
That's what's annoying about it.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
Like, not only is Joe Brady a super spreader offensive coordinator,
but he's not even throwing the ball that much to
your point, Stacy, on top of all of it, but
this is what drives me crazy, ball Dog Cankay. He
still hits the elite numbers in target share even with
all that percent targets share twenty four percent their share.
The problem that he runs into is, say he's only

(35:58):
getting seventy one percent of the routes run Dawson Knox.
Dawson Knox is an issue when it gets to the
red zone. He's only had a bout. I just had
it here, Uh, sixteen percent zone targets.

Speaker 4 (36:08):
That's the issue. Dawson Knox comes in, he blocks. Knox
has got to go away. We've only seen him go
away for like a five game stretch. And in that
five game stretch, Dalt Kink was a top five tight end. Yeah,
it's still are Chase bying my words? I can't.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
I wish I could. I mean, you know, I think
a lot of people think Dawson Knox has been some
kind of like touchdown vulture, and I use the term.
I use the term more like seagull because vultures, we
know they're gonna be picking around dead carcasses. But seagulls
will fly right down in front of you. They'll be real,
you know, bold about it, take your French fry right
in front of you, laugh at you, and fly off.
And I think that a lot of people think Dawson

(36:46):
Knox is vulturing touchdown work. Like you said, though, it's
not about he's not catching touchdowns and taking them away
from from Dalton Kinkaid. He's just taking away snaps. If
he wasn't taking away those snaps on the field, I
think we'd have a lot more from Dalton kin Kay.
I think I don't think he's ever going to be
what we all hoped he was when we were drafting
him into our dynasty lineups a couple of years ago.

(37:08):
We all thought, oh, Cole Beasley's gone. This guy can
be Cole Beasley with a bigger butt. And it didn't.
It never came to pass. But yeah, I just don't
see him. He was twenty one in a points per
game basis last season. I think he is what he is.
His yards per reception last year is targets per game
actually increased over the over that rookie season. Again, he's

(37:31):
he played well last season when he played, but I
don't see him. Maybe he just is what he is
at this point well, and he's got to kind of
all give up the ghost.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
I'm kind of to that point that I don't I
don't want to excuse doun Kan Kate completely because there
is a lack of efficiency here on his point.

Speaker 4 (37:46):
With the uses that he did have, he shouldn't have.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
He should have had an expected rate of zero point
four to six Fantasy points per route rod he should
have had ten Fantasy points per game just based on
usage he did get, and we saw point three to two,
we saw six point eight.

Speaker 4 (37:59):
So there is something there where Kinkaid is is not.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
As efficient as he should be with the opportunities that
he does get.

Speaker 4 (38:07):
So maybe it is just what he is. I'm not
drafted him this this year. I'm just I'm not. I'm not.
I'm not. I'm not. I'm not, I'm not. I'm not.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
Here's somebody else I'm not drafting. But Stacy's got him
as a sleeper. Kyle Pitts, did you think we're gonna
getrough a tight End show without talking about Kyle Pitts.

Speaker 4 (38:23):
No chance I was gonna happen, Stacey, Why are you
trying to see Kyle Pitts back into our lives?

Speaker 2 (38:31):
Okay, so normally, and I think I even I'm sure
I said this at some point last season, I was like,
I'm never taking Kyle Pits again until he's on another team,
and then maybe that's the only time that I'll even
consider it. I got just hose on Kyle Pitts last year.
I had I took him so many places because I

(38:52):
was like, oh, Kirk Cousins loves throwing to his tight end.
He was throwing to Hawkinson at like twenty seven something
percent of the time. So and I was just I
was just so bought in. I was like, this is it.
This is a year and what happened we all know
what happened was not it was not in fact his year. Okay,
but but you're getting him for free, right, you can

(39:14):
draft him for free. Right. So so with that being said, right,
it's his first full year with Michael Pennix. It's a
contract year also for him. Darnell Mooney's banged up behind
Drake or London, who else we got, We got Ray
Ray McLoud, right, who else is there a measure? It's
just such low risk with high upside that if you

(39:37):
pushed tight end, if you're looking for a backup, I
think that he can be an option for you. And
you know what, I'm willing to be wrong on that,
because look, if it's wrong, we can just all be done.
We can all collectively as a fantasy community say never again.
We're not getting sucked in, We're not getting pulled back in.
But I just I just think that you're not going

(39:58):
to lose really any value with him by taking him
as late as you're able to get him in drafts.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
Right now, and the drafters must be with you, Stacy,
because right now he is going off as the Titan
fourteen like he's been climbing since since the beginning of
all You just you see a little die.

Speaker 4 (40:16):
It's all right off the screen.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
We're people are starting to buy in, right, Darling, Mooney
got hurt to your point, who else is there?

Speaker 4 (40:26):
Michael Penix? We know he can sling it.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
I've been making the argument this entire year that Michael
Pennix is Jameis Winston without the turnovers.

Speaker 4 (40:32):
Means good things for fantasy that winds up happening.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
I can't do it. I can't because you know why.
I can't stare myself in the face in the mirror
and say I took another year of Kyle Pitts, You dumb, dumb.

Speaker 4 (40:48):
I can't look at myself. I can't do it. No movie,
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
I think everybody thinks that Pitts should Pitts is going
to be the Mooney in this offense. No, Mooney's the
Mooney in this offense. When he's healthy, he's going to
be I can't. I can't stop it.

Speaker 4 (41:02):
Now, Mooney is the Mooney in the offense. I love it,
love it.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
Well because I think everybody assumes Pitts would be the
guy that they would go to in that offense and
run the types of things that they already get out
of Darnell Mooney. We all forget that he's actually a
pretty damn good receiver when he's when he's healthy and
on the field.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
I mean, look, Stacy, everything you said analyticallybook Colpits is
one hundred percent and utterly correct. It's one hundred percent correct.
I just can't bring myself to do it. It's worth
talking about though, with a new offense and like. But
I also saw some things today talking about well, don't
be surprised the Falcons during the season final way to
trade col pits. Maybe that would actually be a spark
if he were to go somewhere that would utilize him
a little bit better. I don't know, we'll find out.

(41:43):
They'll talk about some other sleepers, though. Let's talk about
what we all agree with. Chase something to kick this
to you, zach Ertz.

Speaker 4 (41:50):
Well, no warring.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
I get it, Like, I don't like watching a guy
catch the ball and fall right to the ground too,
but heya nineteen.

Speaker 4 (41:58):
It feels a little crazy.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
Oh, I mean, this is the guy that he's carrying
the old man flag for all of us there. He's
thirty four years old, right, He's Kingsbury's guy, pal, He's
just Kingsbury's guy. I said that when they signed him.
I loved the I loved the destination. Kingsbury likes the guy,
so he wants him involved in the offense. But then
I think he actually put together a pretty nice rapport
with Jayden Daniels last season. And listen, he was fourth

(42:25):
in the league among tight ends in red zone targets
last season. He gets usage when they get down there.
He's gonna get the looks when he gets down there.
It's not all just going through their wide receiver corps.
He had a good fantasy season last year. The usage
type is there that I like for him for a
tight end, and his situation is still a positive I
think for him. I'm not worried about Ben Sinnett. I
didn't like Ben Sinnett in the draft process last season.

(42:46):
I don't think Ben Sinetta actually has anything to worry
about in terms of threatening zach Ertz's role in this offense.
As long as Ben as zach Ertz stays healthy, he
has outperformed this draft slot of tight end nineteen. He
has outperformed that every single year. In fact, in a
year where he has been relatively healthy, he's never finished
outside the top twelve except for twenty fourteen, which is

(43:06):
like his first or second year in the season in
the league. So he's a top twelve type performer just
even by default when he's healthy. So if he stays
healthy all season, like you just said, he's going tighten
nineteen one hundred and fifty six overall, you can get
him at the twelve thirteen turn and you're going to
get a starter. I think he vastly out plays that

(43:28):
tight end nineteen slot and I don't see any reason.
I don't see any way. It doesn't happen unless he
gets hurt, and we can't predict injuries at any position.

Speaker 4 (43:38):
Well, do you think stays anything that?

Speaker 1 (43:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (43:41):
So I love Zacharsky. He's not dead yet, guys, Okay,
And like, I'm so sorry to the Ben Sennatet hive,
Like it's not his time. Okay, it's just not And
you're right, he and Kingsbury are like this. Those guys
are right there. He's gonna get those looks. He had
eight top ten finishes in Fantasy last year. I mean,
I just I don't necessarily love Debo there. I think

(44:04):
he had some weird injuries last season that I don't like.
Terry was there last year. I'm not worried about Terry
taking anything away from zach Ertz. That's they can coexist
just fine. So, like, why wouldn't you go grab a
guy that put up ten point four points per game
in PPR formats last season when you can get him
that late in your drafts? That just makes so much
sense to me. I am so overweight on zach Ertz

(44:27):
and Hunter Henry. This years like just the old man
tight ends.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
I'm here for Yeah, I'm with you. I mean you
mentioned Deebo Samuel and I chase your point. We tried
to predict injuries, but there's certain players that just develop
a pattern. What I think we can say, we say
you're injury prone. Devo sam was one of them. I
think that's the big argument everybody's trying to make as
to why zach Ertz is supposed to be tight in
nineteen now, and I'm like, oh, like, here's the thing

(44:53):
about zach Ertz, all right, eighteen percent target share very replicable.

Speaker 4 (44:57):
Even with Deebo Samuel on the field. Aer yards there.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
I look for these numbers because I look for certain tiers,
look for cern metrics for these guys. They hit one
point five yards per route run. All of that is
not great, but it is low end tight end one
starter level. Where he is in the elite tier is
the end zone targets twenty percent, twenty one red zone
targets for the year, seven touchdowns. So even if you

(45:21):
think Deebo Samuel is going to somehow be a problem
for zach Ertz. Deevo Smles never, even in his prime,
been a red zone target runner maybe, but not a
red zone target eight percent end zone targets last season
with the San Francisco forty nine ers with a burn
up brand Ey Yuke, with Ricky Pearsall who was shot,
still trying to come back to play, nothing but George Kittle,
no Christian McCaffrey. He still hit eight percent of the

(45:42):
end zone targets. He's not a factor when it comes
to that. So that's all zach Ertz. I got him
as tight end twelve.

Speaker 4 (45:48):
Is it fun?

Speaker 3 (45:49):
Is it sexy? He's exciting? Maybe not, Let's get the
job done. It absolutely does one percent. Stacey, you mentioned
another sleeper that many of us have, Hunter Henry, and
I'm hounding the table you want to talk about guy,
I'm overwaiting best bonn O. I don't know if there's
a league, I don't have him in Stacy taking it
away on Hunter Henry for me?

Speaker 2 (46:09):
Oh Man, Yeah, I love Hunter Henry so much and
also too like breaking news right, Javon Baker's Gune Burn's
gone now, so it just opens up even more targets
for him. This guy had twenty point five percent of
the target share. He was the Pat's overall leader last year,
and like, I don't care that Stefan Diggs is there,
that's fine, but he was nineteenth overall tight end, right,

(46:32):
and just such great value for him that he could slip,
you know, even to the second in target share in
that offense and he would still outproduce his draft price.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
Right.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
He's got great chemistry with Drake May and probably a
little bit higher on to Mario Douglas than most people too.
But there's really not much else out there, right, You've
got Kyle Williams, okay, you know, and then I know
Travon Henderson too, But like I just I just can't
see a world in which you've got such a great, consistent,
reliable target for your second year quarterback coming in that

(47:07):
you know that Henry doesn't continue just to produce and
just be an absolute monster in that offense. Like I just,
I just you can't convince me that that's gonna happen.
I'm just I am so in on Hunter Henry this year,
just like I had him a lot last year too.
But yeah, I mean even in best best balls, excellent
to have him in but I'm taking him as like

(47:28):
one of my later guys. Like I said with the
old guys, Him and Arts are actually two that I
really like to pair up. If I've waited for a while,
just go grab both of them, you know, and then
then I'm set.

Speaker 4 (47:38):
I agree.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
I mean, I know it wasn't pretty last year because
he only had the two touchdowns, right, but again, hitting
those benchmarks eight percent of the routes, twenty percent of
the targets, twenty percent air airyard share, twenty four percent
end zone targets, eighteen red zone targets. Last time you
was with McDaniels, he was touchdown.

Speaker 4 (47:56):
Through the roof.

Speaker 3 (47:56):
He was the top ten tight end like that was,
you know, So I think that was the year with
John new Smith. And there's no Johnny Smith this year.
Somebody else saw that stuff on digs to your points.
Got to get the targets. Why not Hunter Henry?

Speaker 4 (48:08):
I don't know, I chase anything. Want to add to
that real quick. So no, I'm not a.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
Giant Hunter Henry guy. But the points you guys make
hold and I am in on Drake May. And if
Drake May's going to have a good season, I think
at least part of that season has to go and
a good chunk of that season has to go through
Hunter Henry. So I won't argue with that.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
All right. So there's a couple of things going to
ask you here for Stacy. First, I want your number
one sleeper, and then I want you to tell everybody
an operation domination where they need to check you out
at and what you have coming up?

Speaker 2 (48:37):
Oh, my number one sleeper. I think I gotta go.
I gotta go with Mason Taylor. I know we're not. Look,
the Jets run first offense. We're not like, it's not
a high volume pass passing offense. And that's okay, right
because who else is there beyond Alan Lazard? Like I
dare you to name the rest of the wide receiving
room for the Jets because I had to look them up, Okay,

(49:00):
and come on, it's ugly back there. So Taylor has
impressed in camp, he's impressed in preseason. He is a
six to five huge target for justin fields, and I
think he has got an immediate path to Fantasy at relevancy.
You're going to have to throw it occasionally the Jets
actually that you know you're kind of thinking right, like,
who who threw the least amount in the league last year?

(49:22):
It was the Eagles forty four percent. The Jets are
nowhere near that. So his current adp for Mason Taylor
is tight. In twenty seven, You're you're walking away with
a guy that can come in and immediately produce and
be the number two behind Garrett Wilson. So I absolutely
I am taking him as one of my last round
picks and pretty much everywhere.

Speaker 4 (49:43):
Yeah, I mean, look, are you going to draft them
in your home leagues?

Speaker 3 (49:46):
Probably not, But this is somebody we're going to be
talking about on the Waiver Wire show. One hundred percent
that's going to happen. Could it be you know, Chicago
from twenty twenty three all over again. Garrett Wilson's the
DJ Moore with Justin Fields. Mason Taylor's a cold co
at cole comet who was tight end eight.

Speaker 4 (50:01):
And points per game that season. It's it's I think
it's possible.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
I must think it's probable, but I do think it's
possible and something.

Speaker 4 (50:08):
We're going to be talking about. Stacy, thank you so
much for coming on to the show.

Speaker 3 (50:13):
I want you to tell everybody where are they got
to check you out at and what you have coming up,
because you've got a lot coming up this season.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
I got a lot coming up this season. But thanks
guys for having me. This has been so much fun.
I love talking tight ends, so this just is like
the been the best part of my day to come
and hang out with you guys. But you can find
me over on XM at Stacy Underscore, Perez eighty three,
you can find me. It's gonna be on Mondays with
the Fantasy and Frames Waiver Wire Show. We're gonna be
doing a real fun watch party talking Waivers, talking all

(50:40):
the Sunday action that happened. And then on Sundays you
can catch me on the Sunday Tailgate with Dynasty d
jens Or we're gonna be doing start sits, injury updates,
all your last minute fantasy stuff. That's going to be
going at eleven right when all the injury news hits.
So it's gonna be a lot of fun. Got a
lot going on Sundays and Mondays this season.

Speaker 4 (50:59):
Yeah, and I'll be on there and a couple of
weeks on that Sunday Okay, I can't wait for.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
That, guys. I wanted to take a little extra time
here at the end. We got a lot of stuff coming.
So next week we obviously jump in the end season.
Chase is gonna have his DFS Cocktail Hour or ready
to go, get the Happy Hour started. On the show,
we're gonna be talking first month. We're gonna be talking
about the trending star sick questions, and we're talking about
where we're different with ECR. October, we're gonna start getting

(51:24):
adding more involved with the Dynasty, temperature checks to buy
sales and all that. We'll be working that in. That'll
be the Wednesday, or it should be stayed. I'll be
the Thursday morning show, the Friday morning show that's gonna drop.
I'll be with doctor Brian Scott every single week. We're
gonna go over every injury, get you all the analysis
that you need to know heading into the weekend. And
then Saturday morning, me and Chas Florid from Sports Betting

(51:46):
Weekly are gonna hook up. We're gonna get you winning
Monday all weekend long.

Speaker 4 (51:51):
That's gonna be our schedule throughout the rest of the season.

Speaker 3 (51:55):
So make sure you download Operation Domination and your favorite
podcast that and make sure youscribe to the fantasy football
YouTube channel at FF Advice.

Speaker 4 (52:04):
I'm Dan Mander. Here's Chase Thorton. We'll see you guys
again next time.

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