Week 4 Injury Updates: Must-Know Player Pivots!

The NFL season is heating up, and Week 4 is bringing its fair share of twists and turns! In this episode of Operation Domination, we’re diving into must-know injury updates and player pivots to help you navigate your fantasy football lineup with confidence. With top-notch insights from host Dan Mader and special guest Dr. Brian Scott, we’ve got the inside scoop on key players like Jaden Daniels, Justin Fields, CeeDee Lamb, Mike Evans, and more. Wondering how to handle these injuries or who to target as a replacement? We’ve got you covered!

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CHAPTERS:
00:00 - Intro
02:05 - Jayden Daniels Highlights
06:16 - Justin Fields Analysis
07:27 - Brock Purdy Performance
10:40 - James Conner Update
11:35 - Najee Harris Insights
16:16 - Fantasy Football Strategies
17:30 - Tyrone Tracy Overview
17:50 - Cam Scatabo Breakdown
22:12 - Bill Croskey-Merritt Discussion
23:20 - Terry McLaurin Review
26:41 - CeeDee Lamb Stats
29:28 - Mike Evans Performance
31:29 - Davante Adams Review
34:17 - Xavier Worthy Evaluation
37:20 - San Francisco 49ers Overview
40:55 - Carolina Panthers Analysis
42:40 - New York Giants Insights
46:55 - Closing Remarks
48:50 - Sign Off


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Episode Transcript

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(00:51):
all the other great shows available to you on the network.
As always, I'm your host, Dan Mader, and you know
what time it is. It's time for injury inquiries, which
is why we have the number one medical expert in
all fantasy sports host of the Injured List podcast, the
one and only doctor Brian Scott. What's up, Brian?

Speaker 3 (01:14):
What up?

Speaker 2 (01:15):
We're doing We're doing well. We're doing better than the
players on this list.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Put it that way, do it too.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
I know it keeps shuffling and it's just getting longer
and longer. This looks like a week eight list. It
doesn't look like a list. I would agree with you there, Yeah,
so I'm I'm not too thrilled about that. I'm I'm
sure most of our fantasy owners are not either, because
the whole point of like enjoying the first four weeks
is that there are any buys, So you are supposed
to have to make an overabundant amount of pivots in

(01:47):
your lineup. And yet I feel like that's what we're
going to have to do. So we're gonna get through this.
We're gonna try to help you out. Brian's gonna give
you the injury analysis and expectations, and I'm gonna give
you fantasy impact wise with some of your options, maybe
for you to pivot too. So let's get down and
under with the quarterbacks. First off. Hopefully this is.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
Good news Jaydon Daniel's new issue. What do you have there?
I'm not very optimistic, although apparently some people are. Okay,
so red flag here. A lot of reports are saying
it's up to the doctors. I don't buy that the
doctors wouldn't know, They wouldn't know pretty quick whether or

(02:28):
not he's ready to go. I don't think one or
two days is going to change that. And I swore
and maybe I'm wrong. I swore. I saw a video
of him today throwing a ball on the side with
a brace on. Still I couldn't tell because the video
I saw he was in sweatpants, so I couldn't tell
if he was like, Okay, even that isn't a good look.

(02:49):
You forget on the field. Sunday. Some reports are saying
that it's up to the doctors to clear him. I'm
not sold on that. I think it's up to him
and the team and what he's able to do at
practice I think will factor into the doctor's decision. Does
the doctor have to clear him, yeah. Is it solely

(03:09):
in their discretion whether he plays or not.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
No.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
I think they'll say, from our perspective, he's cleared to play,
and then basically turn it over to the team and say,
here's what we think is going on, or what the
potential downfalls could be if he plays prematurely or he's
not ready. I don't Despite what people think, the doctors
are not the end all be all. They will give

(03:35):
their impression. Well, hey, I say that as somebody who
clears people regularly returned activity. But in a case like this,
where there wasn't an obvious major traumatic injury, it was
some type of nie brain they're saying. You know, a
lot of it depends on how he's recovering, how is
recovery's progressing, how he feels, along with the clinical exam

(03:58):
from the physician. You have to weigh in all those factors.
It's not just one person saying he's good to go
let him in there. It's multifactorial as far as who
makes the call with input from all parties involved. So
the fact that he was in sweatpants or wearing a
brace today or whatever maybe doesn't bode well for him

(04:19):
being prepared and ready to go on Sunday. And there
have been reports that kind of pushed me in that direction,
and then there has been reports that kind of swing
in the other direction. But those are the ones that
are saying that doctors will have to clear him. So
that's why last time, I'm not really buying that. I
think there's a greater chance at this point that he

(04:41):
does not suit up versus him suiting up. Well, that's
definitely not the news that people wanted to hear.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
So the silver lining was that Daniels at least put
in limited practices both Wednesday and Thursday, So it's not
like he's doing nothing.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
That's that's the silver lining. And don't get me wrong,
I'm not saying he's not working his way back into
the lineup. I'm just saying I'm not so sure.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
He's ready yet rageous this Sunday, and that's something fantasy owners,
at the very least, you need to make sure you're
watching this situation very closely as the week unfolds. And
to your point, if he's not one hundred percent, even
if he does go to an issue, you depend on
Jayden Daniels for his mobility. That's what you depend on,
so you may want to think about a backup plan

(05:24):
maybe regardless if he's out there or not. Now that
the silver lining, I keep saying that, But there's another
silver lining here. Marcus Mariota was a decent replacement for
him last week. If you picked him up, he gave
me nineteen fantasy points. I don't think he could ask
for more for a one to one backup that you
were easily able to pick up off the waiver wire
if you needed a pivot point, if you still have

(05:45):
him on your roster, if you have Jayden Daniels, hopefully
you do, I think you could easily pivot to him
again in a spot start, depending upon what's available in
your leagues, of course, but that's not a bad option
to have to turn to. Now, does it downgrade guys
like Debo? Potentially we're gonna talk about the other wide
receiver in a bit, but it doesn't downgrade guys like

(06:07):
zach Ertz and I think Deebo will still be thought
as a top twenty four wide receiver this week too.
So that's the silver lining is that you can go
to Marcus Mariota. Now let's talk about justin fields with
this concussion thing.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
What do you got? Well, so I've seen reports today
that said he was a full participant awesome, which is
what you want to see in concussion protocol. And if
he's doing that today on Thursday when we're recording here,
that's a good sign because that gives him plenty of
time to be cleared. It doesn't. It doesn't automatically mean
he is cleared. It's just another step closer to being cleared.

(06:44):
And if you're a full participant, that's basically all you
need to then get cleared. So he's one step away,
and it sounds like he will be and it sounds
like he'll be back in there this weekend. That's good news,
because here's the deal.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
This gets tricky because this is one of the Monday
night games with the Jets and the Dolphins. So if
you're going to go to justin fields and because they're
playing the Dolphins, you believe me, I will be updating
my rankings with the idea that he's going to be playing.
He will be inside my top ten a quarterback position.
You want him in your lineup, and we're feeling pretty
confident he'll be available to you. Subsequently, make sure Brisaw,

(07:17):
make sure Garrett Wilson starts the only three you care about.
But against the Dolphins, everyone gets a like nice little
boost right now, I guess that train wreck of a defense.
All right, Brian, let's talk about my team. I think
we talk about my more. We even talk about your team.
Did Oh it's so annoying. It's it's for a bad reason.
That's what's why. Typically I like doing that. But I
don't know that any better for my Giants though, So

(07:40):
of course we're talking about Brock Purty. And you know,
it's not enough that one quarterback's hurt. The other quarterback
has to be hurt. Too with any issue with Mac Jones.
So what do you got on the quarterbacks?

Speaker 3 (07:53):
And so this is I want I want to kind
of bring this back around the Jade and Daniels. So
here's where another reason why I think Jade and Daniel
is not going to play is because Marcus Mariota was
solid in his fill in role and the Commanders had
a good performance. They're sitting in a good position right
now where the forty nine ers are struggling and they're

(08:15):
they're hurting. They've got multiple players out, they still don't
have Brandon Ayuk back, carry Kittle's are Kerry Kittle? George
Kittle's not back. I'm showing my age there. And then
you got Brock Perdy who's been out dealing with a
shoulder in tow issue, who's been limited in practice now
several days, and they're saying he's got a real chance
to play. And the reason I think he's more likely

(08:37):
to play this week is because now Matt Jones apparently
reaggravated some type of PCL injury that he had previously
and was limited in practice and maybe limited for the game,
which may be they're going to accelerate brock Perty's timetable
to get back out there, which could mean he's ready
to go this weekend. Maybe they'll split time, maybe they'll share.

(08:57):
I don't know, but they're in a very very precarious
position here. It's like pick the least injured of the two.
I guess I can't believe we're three now. I really
cannot believe the forty and I are three now. It
doesn't make sense to me, because I feel like I
makes sense to me either. I talk about bad news
about them more often. I'm like that they're three and
oh held together by duct tape, But it is three

(09:18):
and oh. From all reports, just on the beat writer's side.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Brock Party did look good moving around practice today, limited fashion,
but from the videos I saw at the very bare minimum,
he looked more mobile or at least looking better in
his drop step than mac Jones did. So of the two,
I do think he is the more healthier quarterback at
the moment.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
Because of the acuity of the injury too. I mean,
brock Party on like week two and a half, almost
three weeks of this, he's more recovered than mac Jones
would be just a few days out from this reaggravation.
So I think you know, looking at it from that sense,
he's got a more realistic chance to start and play
this weekend than Mac Jones now.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Now and the other night thing about brock Perry as
well as mac Jones's play. And I don't want to
take anything away from mac Jones because it's been a good,
honorable start the last two weeks and he's done well.
But perty's still an upgrade for this team. He's particularly
an upgrade for Ricky Piersoll, where it's just clear that
those two just have a rapport with one another. And
last week you saw if there's no Juwan Jennings Hint, hint,

(10:18):
we'll be talking about him soon too. Piersal not only
his number one target, but now if he gets his
quarterback here he has the chemistry with and he went
over one hundred yards of Mac Jones, we could be
looking at a decent game that we're all gonna talk
about Piersoll, but I am pretty optimistic on him foreshadowing there.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
Let's get to the running backs though.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
So a lot of a lot of bad news came
out this past Sunday, so we all know we're not
going to see James Connor again this year. We all
know we're not going to see Najee Harris again this year,
but I would like just to get from t for
you what an expected timeline going into next season for
either one of these players and what kind of effectiveness

(10:58):
you think they could have next year.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Looks to you, Naje Harris has youth on his side.
So we're talking about an Achilles' injury. It's gonna be
nine months before he's cleared to do football activities again.
There's no reason to push him any earlier than that.
It's gonna be anywhere between twelve to eighteen months before
he's kind of really back to his normal self. But

(11:22):
with an Achilles rupture, with an Achilles repair, there will
always be some degree of a loss of power on
that side that he had the injury, So there's no
way to really recover fully from that. It's just a
consequence of the injury and surgery. You're never quite fully
as strong as you were on the other side, no
matter what level athlete you are, even at the elite level,

(11:44):
they just can't quite recoup all of that power.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
So at the running back position it does factor in.
Now Again, he's got youth on his side, and if
you can adapt to that. If you can change your
style of running or figure a way to kind of
reinvent yourself, you can get and show no ill effects
from it. And we've seen players do that in plenty
of other sports as well, basketball in particular, with some

(12:08):
athletes have come back from that injury. But you know,
in general, speaking about Achilles injuries like that's always a
known downside to it. So nine months before he's back
doing football activities, he'll he'll be ready at least for
probably week one.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
I don't know how much he'll do in off season
stuff and camps and stuff, but by then he should
be ramping up his time. And then with regards to
James Connor, you're probably looking at closer to a year
before he's kind of ready back to himself clear to
kind of do most he'll be clear to do most

(12:45):
stuff before that, but I think it's gonna take him
at least a year probably before we see him really
pushing that ankle ramping up his activities again. Given the
fact that he's at the running back position now, he's
a little older than Naj Harris, He's been around a
little bit longer, so that factors in as well. With
his injury, though, you have to worry more about other
structural damage to the ankle joint. At the time of

(13:06):
his injury, he had a pretty nasty fractured dislocation. So
anytime that happens, there is the potential concern of the
cartilage damage to the ankle joint, which may precipitate some
advanced arthritic changes in the ankle over time, and that
may need to be addressed surgically, which may push back
his rehabs. So there's a lot more factors going into

(13:28):
his surgery and recovery than you would find with the
straightforward Achilles repair. So his timetable I'm a little bit
less certain of. But even with just a straightforward ankle
fractured dislocation, let's assume there was nothing wrong internally or
structurally and he had a full recovery, he's still probably
going to be close to that year mark.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
That's brutal because that goes in the next year and
then his age is like, what are we really looking at?
And so I wanted to ask you this as a piggyback,
and we could just talk about this player now, even
though not on the wide receivers, is this similar to
what Chris Godwin went through.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
I for I believe Chris Godwins was a little bit
more straightforward. I don't recall, though, I'd have to look
up the specifics or what information I could find. Again, now,
Godwin got hurt Week seven last year, had surgery, has

(14:22):
been slowly working his way back again. This guy's an
older player. I think he might even be older than
Connor right, he's been around age yeah, as they mentioned,
I mean they've both been around for a while. It
seems wide receiver positioned another skill level position. So again,
a lot of demands for cutting, pivoting, sprinting, changing direction,
powerful push off. He was not placed on pup in

(14:46):
the preseason, so there was some anticipation that he may
have been ready even before this week, and they're saying
that he might be actually suiting up this week. He's
been limited in practice since last week, has been slowly
ramping up. I'm not so sure we're going to see
him back. I'm not quite sure if he's gotten in
a full practice session. I would expect to see at
least a full practice session before he gets out there

(15:07):
in game competition. But he's an inching closer and closer. Again,
I don't know the specifics of his ankle fracture. I'm
quite certain he did have some type of fracture dislocation
if I remember reports correctly. I just don't know the
extent of his injuries. And if I'm not mistaken, I
think he only had one procedure. There's I'm pretty sure

(15:29):
he only had one.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
And by the way, Chris Cowin didn't practice today, so okay,
it may not be this week.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
Yeah, And I was skeptical that he was ready just yet.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
Yeah, So that gives you an idea, though, So you're saying,
you know, based on what remember, Chris Gotwin's ankle injury,
a fracture was a little more straightforward than what we
just saw James Connor.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
That happened in week seven. It's week four.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
We still don't think he's gonna suit up this week,
So that just gives you an idea. And Chris Gowin
being a little bit younger James or running back being
even more of a demanding position in my opinion, the
wide receiver, it's just it's an ugly, ugly thing. Now
we get to the fantasy football side at all, because
I mean, we could, we could relish in all day
how you know, sad we are for these guys, and

(16:14):
we are, but let's get to the fantasy of it.
So we're recording this on a Thursday night like we
always do. So right now, the Cardinals in Seattle game
is going on, Trey Benson looking like the bell cow
exactly what we expected for that if you picked him up,
if you had them already and you had James Connor,
or if you picked up Trey Benson wondering if an
injury like this, what happened to James Connor. Congratulations, you

(16:35):
now have a bell cow back who should probably be
in your top twenty four bare minimum. The rest of
the way, that's pretty straightforward. Nothing else really changes there.
Najee Harris going out, just save tomorrow and Hampton owners
just saved them because week one you got kind of
a taste of what it would be with Hampton without Harris,

(16:55):
because Harris didn't play very much a week one because
he hadn't had a chance to practice yet and we
hadn't got that great product. Harris goes out last week,
Hampton goes back to getting a bell cow workload after
it looked like he was starting to go you know,
drive for drive basically with hairs, which is kind of
what I expected to happen at some point. And then
Hampden finally had his best game of the year, so

(17:15):
maybe he's starting to turn a corner. He's gonna have
the volume to go with it. So if you're worried
about Hampton before, he's a must play now in my opinion.
So that kind of goes with that. Next, we do
get to talk about your giants after all. Brian Tyrone
Tracy shoulder issue, what do we have? Circle back real quick?

(17:37):
Godwin did have two procedures. He did too, Okay, yeah,
and I don't exactly remember why he had the second procedure,
something about maybe it might have been a hardware issue
or something, but so that may have slowed down his
where you have a little bit.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
Otherwise we should have seen him back sooner. Hopefully Connor
doesn't go through that. Getting to Tracy, apparently he dislocated
his shoulder, so he's gonna miss probably several weeks. I
don't think it's going to require an ir stint. It
doesn't sound like there was any major structural damage. Again,

(18:10):
this is like a traumatic dislocation similar to Worthy on
Kansas City. So it's really going to be dependent on
how sore he is, how he's feeling now. At the
running back position, busting through the line, you're gonna be
dipping your shoulder, taking hits constantly. It might take him
a little bit longer to get back than it would

(18:30):
be for like a guy like XA if you're worthy
at the receiver position. But it doesn't sound like surgery
is necessary. So I think it's going to be at
least probably three four weeks. But yeah, not a good
injury from my giants there. He was looking good.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
He was, I mean he was, Yeah, he was starting
to he was starting to write before the injury like
it had been kind of hit or missed in that
backfield there, and it was starting to look better. Cam Scatibo,
we just talked about Trey Benson, you know what happened
in his situation. I think Cam's is on a very
similar boat. You're gonna see some Devin singletary. But I
do think the idea is that Scatabo is going to
be a borderline, if not a Bell Coal usage player

(19:11):
for the New York Giants heading into this game, who
are now starting Jackson Dart take that for what you will.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
I look at it.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
It's like, look, I didn't have a great profile grade
on Jackson Dart coming into the draft, but anything's better.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
Than Russell Wilson right now.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
And I told you that game against Dallas was a
freaking mirage and a more dude Dallas defense than anything else.
So yeah, if anything, I take Dart starting with Scataboat, who,
in my opinion, because of his ability to break tackles,
because of his quick twitch ability, and because of his
past catching in screen game just looked a little.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
Bit better than Tyrone Chasey.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
I know, Tyroon Tracey at X wide receiver is supposed
to be good at all those same things. Scatabou when he
was given the opportunities, look a little bit better than
Tyrone Tracy so far. So I would take this as hope,
even though it's a tough defense against the Chargers. Scatabo
I have him ranked as in running back twenty two
heading into this week with an all purpose type of
game script in store for him, So I think you

(20:09):
can play him as the top twenty four running back
heading into this one. And that's gonna be the the
curious thing of it all. There's a lot of things
that flux for the Giants. Brian Dable can move on
if they continue to lose games. And if Jackson darts
nine any good, then that thing, that thing's gonna go
down in a hand basket faster than anybody. But with
Scatable playing well, if he does, they may just move

(20:32):
on from Tyrone Tracy. He might he might not relinquish
the role. As what I'm saying, there's a real chance
he might not relinquish this role back to Tracy. Remember,
Tracy was a late day three draft pick. I mean,
I know Scataball wasn't drafted high, but he has at
least more draft capital than Tyrone Tracy does. And I
think players think coaches, you know, if there are any changes,
would find him more appealing than Tracy. Let's say, if

(20:53):
there is a mid season change, potentially.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
Dan, you nailed it. Here's what you as a lifelong
Giant fan. And I'm going to chime in on this
because I usually you know, I usually don't give fantasy analysis.
But here's the deal. The Giants coaching staff is hanging
by a thread. They are going to do everything they
can in their power to be successful. Now they have
no more there's no more excuses. Any guy on that

(21:18):
offense that performs will be given the ball and expected
to take the role. And you're right, Scatabo could easily
surplant Singletary and Tyrone Tracy because this is a guy
that this coaching staff, this GM wanted. They were ecstatic
to get him in the draft when they did because

(21:38):
of his skill set. And you saw them use him
last week and he looked great, and you're going to
see him get the majority of the carries going forward.
And that's why Jackson darts in there and they have
to pull out all the stops. They're going to be
feeding guys of the ball that you wouldn't expect. They're
going to be doing, pulling out all kinds of trick
plays out of their ass because they don't have any

(22:01):
time left. This is it. They are under the microscope now.
Ownership is watching over their shoulder like a hawk. This
is it.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
I'm telling you, Yeah, no, totally agree. So Scatterbo things
looking up for him. He may never look back. Uh,
let's talk about Bill krossky Merritt, because everybody was getting excited.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
Austin Eckler's gone.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
Finally the preseason Darling can finally take over. And then
last week we see Chris Rodriguez go from inactive to
lead ball carrier. Krossky, Amer Gantting worked in a little bit,
and then the guy who is the fantasy high point
of the week was, of course Jerry McNichols, because he
broke off a seventy yarder and made a bunch of
before miss tackles forced and it's it turned into more

(22:45):
what I thought it was going to be what I
told people, and why it wasn't as big on Bill
Krossky Merritt as everybody else was.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
I'm like, this is gonna be a three week committee. Guys,
it looked like that.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Now we have to find out how much of that
maybe was due to the neat issue that Marriag's dealing
with now.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
So first, what do you have on the injury. Well,
it sounds like it wasn't anything serious, but I think
they're just being more cautious here because apparently he was
in pads working on the side during practice but was
not doing full contact, which is better than what we
can say about Terry McLaurin, who wasn't even at practice

(23:22):
and apparently is seeking multiple opinions about this supposed quad injury,
of which I have doubts. Yeah, let's dive into that
since you brought them up anyway. So this is so.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Weird when when reports come out like this, So Terry
mclaurin's dealing with a quad doesn't practice Wednesday, Okay, no
big deal, it's a Wednesday practice. I think it was
Ian Rappaport who came out and said Terry McLaurin does
not need surgery. I didn't know that was on the table, Like,
what do you mean, Like, what are we talking about here?

Speaker 3 (23:53):
So, yeah, walk me through that. My guess, my best
guess is that we're talking about the upper thigh, maybe
the groin or hip flexer area, in which case then
you got to start. There's a lot more structures there.
There's a lot more things that could potentially be including
like a sports hernia or something like that. And that's

(24:15):
what I'm thinking that it's more like a hip pointer
or possibly a sports hernia or some hip flexor injury,
not necessarily a quad, even though that's what's being reported,
because if it was a true quad muscle injury, it's
those are usually very straightforward. There's usually little doubt doesn't
usually require multiple opinions. There's usually no discussion about surgical

(24:37):
possible surgical treatment. So this tells me that whatever we're
hearing in the reports is probably not very accurate. It
it probably is something else, not necessarily a quad and
if I had to guess, it would be one of
those couple of things I mentioned, some type of groin
or hip flexor flexion flexer injury, or possibly like a

(24:58):
sports hernia, which is a lower abdominal issue, because that
just would make a little bit more sense given in
the area that we're talking about, the thigh. Otherwise, other
than that, I don't know what the heck they're talking about.
And maybe they're just full of fluff and it's something
completely Maybe they're just throwing up smoke screens. I don't know.

(25:20):
But he didn't practice today.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
No, Yeah, yeah, it's not turning like Terry mclaurin's gonna
play this week.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
I don't think he is.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
And from the way they make it sound, at least
in the reporting, it doesn't. It sounds like it's more
than a one week injury at the bare minimum. Until
we find out more information. This just goes back to
what I talked about throughout the entire offseason. I'm gonna
call the brand ayukral. If a wide receiver holds out,
don't draft him because he's probably gonna get hurt if
he didn't practice at all in the entire training camp.

(25:50):
That's been a trend, by the way, that goes to
just Justin Jefferson and Ceee Lamb, like none of them
when they've held out have had great years after they
signed the contract late in training camp and come back
and it hasn't worked out for anybody. So that needs
to be a rule for fantasy football moving forward as
we learn things here and as far as that point,

(26:11):
just to wrap the fantasy up on that. That's why
Deebo Samuel, if it's Marcus Mariota, is still considered a
top twenty four wide receiver in my book, because the
target share is simply is going to have to go
to someone with Bill Krossky Mayor if he were to miss,
Chris Rodriguez would be the early down back and Jerry McNichols,
if you're in PPR leagues, would be the main pass
catching back. And Jerry McNichols would be the back I'd

(26:32):
rather own in PPR leagues, Chris Rodriguez would be the
back I'd rather own in standard leagues. It's really that
simple as far as that goes. If he doesn't play,
Let's talk about the wide receivers Ceedee Lamb ankle issue
right when I you know how many player props I
had set up based on Ceedee Lamb hitting the over
on his receiving total. Now, thankfully the books they made

(26:56):
it a push. They took it off, but it did
nothing for my parlays.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
So I don't know.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
Talk about Ceede Lamb and what's going on there. I mean,
he has a high ankle spring. Initially reports were saying
that he actually felt like he was good to go
back in the game, and they actually had the like
he trily almost physically hold him out. He tried, he
tried to go for one play, took himself out, and
then all you kept seeing was Ceedee Lamb walking up

(27:21):
and down the sideline in his past I'm like, dude,
go shit down, You're done.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
What are we doing? Yeah, I mean, you've got to
be really careful with how you treat this. I think
he's going to be shut down for a couple of weeks.
I'd be shocked if they let him out there this
week or next week. You know, typically these will take
about four to six weeks to fully heal, depending on
the severity. Even a mild one can sometimes take up
to four weeks. It sounds like they're gonna go a

(27:48):
week by week with him. You know, he's a pretty
tough cookie. I mean the fact that even tried to
get back out there with the high ankle spring and
I saw the play look pretty bad. Definite definite mechanism
of it injury for how you would get a high
ankle's brain. It was a classic. So if they're smart,
being that we're only in week four here, they'll they'll
give him time and take it week by week. But

(28:09):
I think it's going to be at least two weeks,
could be as much as four. We'll have to see.
Dallas isn't going anywhere.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
There's no reason for them to rush Seedee Lamb back
in any kind of capacity. They're going no place fast.
It sucks for Ceedee Lamb owners to have to hear.
But here's the issue. You want him to take his
time coming back. He'll be back at some point this season.
You want him to take his time because if he
rushes back. I've seen this too often, Brian. You know

(28:38):
this all too well. When guys rush back from a
high ankle spring, they're not the same player. That's the
big issue here. So you want them to take I
would say at least the four weeks before you bring
him on back. I'd rather see him on the IR Frankly,
it doesn't seem like they're going to do that, because
they probably would have done it by now if they
were going to. We'll see in his absence, George Pickens

(28:59):
becomes number and wide receiver. Me and the boys talked
about him extensively in yesterday's show, so make sure again
you go back download Operation Domination, favorite podcast that but
check us out on YouTube because we talked about George
Pickens and who would you start Pickens or the ex
player Pickens or that player?

Speaker 3 (29:15):
How many questions?

Speaker 2 (29:16):
We got a surrounding around him and our full analysis there,
point being is that I have him as wide wide
receiver fifteen this week, So yes, I'm starting him in
case you know, you know, don't go back and listen
to the analysis we gave you on that. Now we
have another big name wide receiver, Mike. Mike Evans hamstring issue.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
Yeah, I mean we're talking about him again. I mean,
I feel like every year we're talking about him a hamstring.
I think he dealt with this a few years ago too.
I feel like it's always hamstring or some soft tissue
injury with Mike Evans. He's going to be out at
least a few weeks. Some reports were saying as much
as three to four I think that's legitimate and very
possible given his age, the fact he's been in the

(29:57):
league forever. These injuries get tougher and tough to recover
from as your age, and like we talked about all
the time, reinjury rate with hamstring injuries to come back
too soon. They're saying at least three to four weeks
in a lot of reports I've read. I'm gonna I'm
gonna go with that timeframe. I think that's reasonable. If
it looks like it might be anymore, they could retroactively

(30:19):
put him on IR, but I mean, who knows.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
Yeah, and he's been drastically underperforming anyway. I don't know
if he was already banged up or Mike Emans has
just lost a step even before the hamstring issue. But
right now, like his usage has been there, Like his
expected fantasy points per game is at seventeen and halfway
BPR leagues, he's only been average in nine he's been
averaging like half of what he should be put producing

(30:45):
based on his usage. Essentially, that's before a hamstring issue.
So what's trending up right now is that even if
and when Chris Godwin returns, like Guka is the number
one wide receiver without a doubt, not that he wasn't already,
but without a doubt on this team, and his target
share might even just got higher, like Buka with this

(31:06):
injury might be a top ten wide receiver. And I
would say, dare say the rest of the way because
this hamstring issue with Mike Evans, I'm with you. Once
he gets a soft tissue injury, it doesn't go away
for the entire year. So maybe get Chris Godwin back
and everything. But right now, like Buka, with how he's
looked and those two older wide receivers dealing with trying
to return from injuries, he just might be the guy

(31:26):
the rest of the way. So hold on to your
seat belts. Let's talk about Devonte Adams. So I didn't
think this was a big deal yesterday, but then he
didn't practice again today getting listed with a hamstring issue.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
So what do you got here? Unfortunately, it sounds a
lot like Mike Evans what I'm gonna say. I mean,
you know, again, a guy that's been in a league
a while, three straight days now, if not practicing, definitely,
I mean ninety nine point nine percent sure he's not
gonna play this week, could be multi week, multi week absence.
We see, I don't recall seeing the play he got injured, don't.

(32:05):
I haven't read reports saying how significant the injury is,
how severe. But I mean again, sometimes the severity doesn't
always match the symptoms. Sometimes you feel pretty good and
you think you're more recovered than you actually are, and
that's when you start running into those high reinjury rates,
when you start coming back too soon. Some of that
is because you feel better and you're actually not as

(32:27):
good as you think you are. You're not as healed
as you think you are, and that's where the tricky
part comes in. With hamstrings, you can't it's hard to
go full game speed tested out, and that's when the injury,
the re injuries happen and anything you're doing short of
the full game speed is really just like putting a
band aid over an open wound. It may stop the bleeding,
but you haven't fixed the problem. So that's why these

(32:48):
things take so long to heal. It's inherently weak muscled. Sometimes,
depending on where the injury occurs, you have little blood
flow that helps healing. So it's a real there's no
it's a real science behind getting these guys back on
the field with these injuries. Yeah, it really is. Now.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
I will say this, Unlike Mike Evans, I have a
little more confidence in Devonte Adams when he returns because,
unlike Mike Evans, Adams doesn't look like he had lost
a step. He still looked like Adams to me out there, actually,
so I have a little more faith.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
When he returns.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
You're gonna get the production that you had been getting
before this injury. In the meantime, I mean, Pooka Tokua
his second to target share before this in the NFL. Like,
so just buckle down. Here's more volume for you because
they've got nobody else to go to.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
We're gonna see who steps up.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Jordan Whittington have been playing the most snaps, but to
to atwill have been running the most routes. I think
you're gonna see a combination of those two are the
lower end, deeper league waiver wire pickups, Yes, I do
think they are. Somebody else besides Pooka has to get
the ball on a pass first offense. I do think
Kyron Williams maybe gets a little bit more involved now
in the passing game two. So something to kind of

(34:01):
keep your eyes out on. So if you haven't picked
up to two Oul, you haven't picked up Jordan Winnington,
you're in a deeper league.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
It might it might be.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
Worth it to take a shot at one of those
guys and see what shakes loose between the two of them,
and what kind of production that we could possibly see
in Adams's absence. If he does in fact not go okay,
let's jump over to xavier' worthy.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
Maybe this is.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
A better you know, maybe this is more silver lining news. Yeah,
I mean, he's trending in the right direction. Sounds like
he got a full practice in I think yesterday they're
they're optimistic that he's.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
Going to be available this week. My only caution here
is that number one, he's probably gonna be playing with
some type of brace on. That's my guess. That may
limit his ability to catch those balls up top. So
if we do see him, I think we're gonna see
him in short yardage situations, not necessarily plays that are

(34:54):
going to extend down the field. And unfortunately too, he
may not realize how much he's healed until he has
to lower that shoulder and take that first hit, and
I think for that reason, he might be used on
a limited role. I'm not so sure that if we
do see him play this week that he's gonna be
out there for every snap. I think he might get

(35:16):
a little bit less of a snap count than he
would traditionally if he wasn't injured. And I think that
would be the smart thing to do on the part
of the Kansas City Chiefs, knowing that he just is
only two weeks out from a traumatic dislocation. Now again
didn't require surgery, no major instability issues with this, but
he's going to be He's still probably a little sore,

(35:37):
and until he gets that first hit, you may not
know what you got with him. So I would tread
cautiously and thrown him out there in your starting lineup
until you can see him in action. It might be
worth keeping him on your bench maybe one more week,
even though he might actually play.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Yeah, well, I have him right now as a low
and wide receiver three, which kind of goes with what
you're saying there, like a borline play depending upon what
your options are. And hopefully he gave Travis Kelcey a
fruit basket and say, hey, you know, could you not
hit it again?

Speaker 3 (36:04):
Because it wasn't the defense that he had to worry about.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
It was his own teammates that took the guy, a
poor guy out, good grief.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
Now, here's what's going on with the Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
They're so desperate wide receiver, which is why I do
have Worthy as a top thirty six play at the
position that Taekwon with Thornton has been their number one guy.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
Like that's that's where we're at.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
Taekwon Thornton, ex Rutgers player, Like like where that's where
we are? Yeah, like the guy who could only run
straight did nothing for New England. Ever, that's the number
one receiver for the Chiefs right now. They are desperate
for a wide receiving playmaker. You have Rashi Rice who's
stole a few weeks away with his suspension and Xavier

(36:48):
Worthy coming back. So you talk about him operating in
a short game, that's what I want. I want Worthy
operating that Rashi Rice role, the role he took over
at the end of last season and was so effective with.
That's what you're looking for. I'm not looking for Worthy
to take the top off. Let Thornton do that. Give
me the targets, give me a reliable option in the middle,
and he might just see him go off like Donkey
Kong because Mahomes has been desperate for it. So I

(37:11):
so I give him a high floor just if he
is going to be on the field because of the
desperateness that we see the Kansaity Chiefs in right now
with that offense. Jwan Jennings, we finally get to the
forty nine or Roaders just lump him in here. Yeah,
so Jwan Jennings, he hasn't practiced Ricky pier saw some
good news on him. He did come back in the
limited capacity today. So what do you have on their injuries?

Speaker 3 (37:32):
I think did Piersall He might have actually practiced in
the fall. I can't remember now, but regardless, he's reported
I'll double check. Yeah, Well, well he's got a better
chance of playing than Juwan Jennings. Let's just put it
that even though for and I guess there's two ways
of looking at his new contract, right. You can look
at it as let's incentivize this guy and reward this

(37:53):
guy for being out in the field and producing, or
this is a major red flag. This guy has a
problem staying on the field because he's often injured or
whatever else is going on. Let's give him an incentive
laden contract that is spaced around time and availability and
being on the field. And here we are Week four,

(38:15):
and he's gonna probably miss a second straight week. It's
certainly looking that way now.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Now for forty nine are fans, the good news is
the Marcus Robinson comes back off the suspension, so he
gets to come and plug in and fill that role.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
The other good news that you have Ricky Piersaw.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
He practiced in the Olympic capacity today by the way,
I double checked, but we do expect him back.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
So the target share, like we saw last week, it
was I forget.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
Exactly the exact percentage, but an obscene amount of mac
Jones passes was either Ricky Piersaw or Christian McCaffrey and
nobody else got involved until the last last drive of
the game when they came back and one because you know,
they just covered Ricky Piersall. Chris McAfrey let everybody else
wide open, So you're gonna get a hell of a
target share for Ricky Pearsall, who, by the way, if

(39:00):
you have nhit been paying attention, is the third receiver
in receiving yards so far this season.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
So a lot of people called me crazy.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
So I was on a show with Tyler Bradley, who's
the leader of Fantasy Football Advice Network and hosts of
The Fantasy Forum, and we were talking about bold predictions
in the offseason, and I said, my bold prediction, Ricky
Piersall gets the top twelve wide receivers, and we weren't
going to talk about him today. But between Juwan Jennings
being banked up, George Kittle banged up, and Branda Yuke

(39:32):
not sounding so hot on the pop, I don't know
if anything thought of that on the top of your head,
But between all those things, it might just happen. My
bold take might just actually take place. Do you have
anything on brand a Uk off the top of your
head or now I know I'm kind of putting your
own spot here.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
No, but either way, I even if he's ready, I
wouldn't expect much out of him.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
Well, I mean he's not so like the comments, I
guess you didn't hear the comments today, but John Lynch
came out and said that Branda Yuk is not close.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
That was his comment. Oh that doesn't surprise me either.
I've not been I mean, if you look back to
the episodes we did starting in the preseason, I was
I've been not very optimistic about him coming back anytime soon,
and even if he did, I didn't expect much in
the way of him performance wise coming off of his injury.

(40:19):
So that doesn't surprise me. Uh so, yeah, I'm not
surprised by that statement. I wouldn't even put him on
my injury reports until we know he's ready and starts
doing anything in the near future here. But until then,
I'm not sold that he's going to be back and
if he even if he does, I wouldn't expect anything

(40:40):
production wise out of him for quite some time. Yeah.
So that's I'm with you on the same boat.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
It's why I wasn't taking brand at Uk as a
flyer later, just because just because I could put on
my ir because I'm not expecting much either. And again
I hammers back to Ricky piers Aaltz to the moon
for the rest of the season. Let's talk about Teterro
and McMillan. He had a cap issue. No one really
seem to know it happened until Whens the reports came out.
So what's your update on him.

Speaker 3 (41:06):
He sat out a practice yesterday, apparently was limited today.
Young guy rookie in the league. Panthers are terrible, and
I can say that because they live here in Charlotte.
I think they're just basically keeping him from hurting himself more.
I don't think this is a serious injury. There's a
chance he could play this weekend. He's probably going to

(41:27):
carry a questionable tag. What he does the remaining days
of this week leading into their game, we'll have to see.
It could be a true game time decision. I don't
think they're going to want him to push through it, though,
I think if anything, it could be one week absence.
Doesn't sound like it's serious from all the reports I've read.
I think this might be a case of them just

(41:48):
kind of pulling the reins back a little bit. On
a young receiver who is going to be part of
their future, So keep an eye on what he does
the rest of the week. But he's probably going to
carry questionable tag game time decision, But at.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Least there's some silver lining news there. It does sound
like you think he might be able to go. So
if you have, if you have Tetroe McMillan, I still
have him right now, you know, tentatively inside my top
twenty four. The ceiling hasn't been great because brays Young's
been so awful, but the floor is there because he's
not throwing the ball to anybody else, and that should

(42:22):
remain true for at least another week now. When Jalen
Cocher comes back off of his injury or at least
will be eligible too in week five, we might be
having an interesting conversation as far as how those target
share splits are going to work. But until then, Tarroo McMillan,
even with a bad quarterback, is getting enough volume where
you should at least still be in your lineups. Or
let's just wrap it up with with at least the

(42:42):
wide receivers anyway, with with Alec Pearce, because he's been
a performer. I think more so than people thought he
would be. With Daniel Jones, he had a concussion issue.
What's your update on him?

Speaker 3 (42:52):
Yeah, he has he I don't even think they saw
him at practice today. Yeah. So it sounds like he's
not even close to getting out of that concussion protocol
by this week, and we'll have to see what he's
able to do next week. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
So in his place, Donnie Mitchell would take that, because
this could just be a one or even a two
week thing, and a Donnie Mitchell would be well behind
Michael Pittman and Josh Downs and Tyler.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
Warren and the running game comes first.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
I'm not really looking to make that move unless you're
in the most deepest and desperate sort of leagues.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
Two seconds for Evan Ingram, I got nothing to say.
He's he's always going to have a questionable tag on
my injury list. Let's just put it that way, even
if he's not hurt. Yep, fair enough this one. Colston
loved him. He's got the hit issue.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
Yeah, not really much. I don't think he practiced today,
and if he did, it may have been just limited.
I'm not exactly sure the extent of his injury could
be a hit pointer which we see a lot of
in football, which is basically like a deep contusion to
the hip where it inserts on the pelvis. So similar
to uh, the one guy was skipped over to von Valet,

(44:03):
similar thing. He actually was in a limited practice today
and ramping up, so it sounds like he might be available.
I would expect a similar kind of trend for Loveland
once he does get back on the field. But that's
really all I got on him. Yeah, and he'd Loveland,
that is, he did not practice today, so he you'd
not looking great. It doesn't affect cole Comet like anybody

(44:25):
out there is like, well, maybe cole Comet's a start.
Cole Comet has been getting over ninety percent of the
snaps anyway, over ninety percent of the route runs anyway.
It hasn't mattered, it hasn't produced. He last week people
were like, oh, he scored a touchdown. He had one
catch for eight yards for that touchdown.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
That was it.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
He's not part of this passing game attack. He's out
there to block nothing more. So Loveland does not open
up cole Comet as a streaming option. In my opinion,
Jatavian Sanders has banged up, Michael Meyer's banged up.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
What do you have on them? Sanders? I think it
has a high ankle spring that happened last week, so
not good news. There probably gonna be a few weeks.
Don't know what he did. I think he's been held
out of practice all week, And same thing with Mayor.
He's a concussion and I don't think he's been back
to practice as of yet, at least not enough to
get cleared. So we'll have to keep an eye on

(45:17):
those guys.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
Yeah, and now, typically I wouldn't bring up guys or
so low down on the fantasy football list for most teams,
but Mayor in particular, I wanted to make sure we
talked about because what we saw was great news for
brock Bauers, not for Mayor, but for Bowers. So the
problem Bowers has mostly been having these first few weeks
is that Chip Kelly is up to his idiotic Chip
Kelly ways and splitting up tight ends for absolutely no reason.

(45:40):
We saw him do this back in Philadelphia when Zach
Ertz was in his prime and he was splitting targets
with Brent Selik, and there we were and nobody could
eat as a result, to it. You wanted to play
an Eagles tight end, but you didn't know which one
to do. If you could just more from the one
to be in the leite tight end, we couldn't get
that because he had to split both of them. Well
to some not to quite to that extent, but to

(46:00):
some degree. We've been seeing that with the Raiders, with
Michael Mayer playing a lot more in certain situations where
Brock Bowers is actually off the field entirely. Why you're
taking your best offensive weapon off the field as much
as they are, I have no idea.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
It makes no sense.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
But again, Chip Kelly is not a good offensive mine
hasn't been for a long time. I don't know why
people forgot about this. But Mayor goes out with his injury,
Bowers goes back to being a full time player, and
what do you know, Bowers has his best game of
the year. So as long as Michael Mayer's out, Bowers
is probably back to being the number one tight end. Overall,
you're gonna get the production you were hoping for when

(46:37):
you drafted him. You can't sell high because Titans is
such a crapshoot. So even Bowers with Mayor there is
his floor still top five tight end anyway, But it's
look forward to getting what you drafted for him at
least while Mayor's out, and maybe they'll trigger something in
Chip Kelly's brain like hey, you know what, maybe this
guy should be on the field more. But with that,

(46:58):
it's gonna wrap up the show.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
Brian Is.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
I love having you on, Love that you make time.
Let everybody know where to follow you and what you
have coming up next.

Speaker 3 (47:06):
Yeah, So at Injury List Pod is my ex tag there.
You can follow me there. That's where I do most
of my injury updates throughout the week. I'll just throw
some stuff up based on some of the news and
reports coming out in the media, which is what I
use to do my injury reports. I don't have any
big time behind the scenes sources or information. I'm just
going on the same stuff that you guys are going on,

(47:28):
using my expertise to put out some information and reports
so you guys can make better decisions about your lineups.
You can follow me over at that sports podcast network
where I do shows with TSS Fantasy on Friday and
Sunday mornings and then on Dan's show every Thursday of course,
and then I just did an episode with Deb Wickets
from the Blonde Blitz. She's awesome. I'll probably be hooking

(47:49):
up with her once a month to do a show
quick segment, just kind of a little update, nothing crazy, like,
nothing in depth like we do here, Dan, but you know,
something just for some female fans if they want to
check it out. And then on the website, the Injured
List podcast, I'm gonna maybe put out an episode tomorrow
just kind of summarizing some of the stuff we talked
about tonight. I'll see. I haven't put out anything recently,

(48:10):
haven't done many interviews recently, kind of focusing on football
this year. But got a conference coming up tomorrow, so
I'll be hanging out in Charlotte with some other podcasters.
Maybe I'll come out with some content after that. I'll know,
we'll see. I'm not quite sure what I'm doing with
the podcast right now, but uh, the plenty of old
episodes you can touch touch, touch into and get some
more information. Actually, some hamstring episodes I've got back there,

(48:31):
some other stuff achilles and injury ones, and those are
all still very pertinent today even though they were taped,
uh sometimes over a year ago. So That's the one
thing about medical advice doesn't really go away too much.
It doesn't change quickly. The changes usually occur over a years,
so these these are still hold true for quite some time.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
Yeah, something you should go check out again at the
Injured List podcast. Make sure checking out Operation Domination your
favorite podcast that and check out our video content on
the Fantasy Football Advice Network at f f advice Net.
Will be back tomorrow. I'm not going to have Jazz
Fallardi in the building to do the bets, but he's
promised me he's going to make videos for his favorite

(49:09):
bets of each game, and so it'll just be yours truly,
with some pop ins from Jazz throughout the show. But
we're still going to line your pockets green, so make
sure you check that out tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (49:19):
We'll see you then.