Week 5 Injury Report: Critical Updates You Can’t Miss!

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(00:49):
As always, I'm your host, Dan Maider, and I have
the great, the one, the Only mister doctor Bryan Scott
of Injured List Podcast on the show like I do
every Thursday. Brian, what's going on man? How you doing today?

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Well, there's a lot going on. And then I'm glad
to be here. Thanks for having me. I'm doing well.
But I can't say the same for your forty nine ers.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Dan.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
I feel like we have the same I feel like
this is very repetitive every season.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Woof, whoof. Yeah, we're gonna get into that conversation. I
literally so.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
First of all, I typically do not put names that
are playing in the Thursday night game because we record
on Thursday nights in the sheet because most people are
gonna listen this on Friday anyway, and I just keep
them updated with that. You already know who's inactive going
into the Thursday game, but I had to bring them
up because all these injuries have lingering effects. Want people
to have an idea of what might be coming up.

(01:39):
And then also I need to have a side conversation
with you about this as well. We just we just
have to get into it. It's driving it's driving me crazy.
I'm glad of your mental well being.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
I feel like this is kind of like a personal,
uh what anceling session for you. Absolutely, I'm just lucky
it's fantasy relevant.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Otherwise they have no place on the show's that's the
whole point of it, and it's driving me crazy. I'm
glad to record on Thursday nights because I don't want
to actually have to watch this whole game right now.
But we do have an ever growing list, and look,
I know as we get further into the season, the
list does typically tend to grow, but this is nuts.

(02:16):
I mean, the major fantasy relevant player injuries and the
major injuries attached to those major players is what's crazy
to me. I don't think it's been as bad in
years past, at least not by week five in my
memory anyway.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
No, the thing about this year too, is like there's
a lot of spillover still from last season. So not
only did we roll that into the new year, but
now you've got i mean, week five, and we've got
a bunch of guys that are down and down for
a lengthy period of time, if not season ending. So
it's just what I thought last year couldn't get any worse.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
This year it starting has gotten worse already.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Well, and then the icy on the cake is that
we've officially begun bye weeks, so they're already nightmare to
begin with. We got this week. Yeah yeah, So like
this is just nut. So let's just dive into this
thing because we got to figure a lot out big
name Lamar Jackson hamstring, Like, besides the ACL probably the

(03:15):
worst injury i'd want to see a guy like Lamar
Jackson have going into this one. So what's your expectation here?
When do you think he will be back? I mean
they're saying week to week or even day to day.
I think it's going to be more like week to week.
But you know he's a physical specimen. He has not
missed much time aside for some other injuries that he

(03:37):
had early in his career, But.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
I don't think it's serious. I think I would you
know this week for sure he's going to be out.
He's not even at practice today, and it sounds like
he's in a miss week five no matter what he
does on on Friday. So let's assume it's a mild
de moderate hamstring issue hopefully maybe just some cramping, some tightness,

(04:01):
not an actual strain.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
We could expect to.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
See him back maybe in two weeks, so maybe week six.
Now I don't know when their bi is.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Keep that in mind. I have no idea all the
team's buys, but.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
I'm a little bit more optimistic with him just because
he's so so incredibly important to the Ravens franchise. I
think they're gonna take care of him and treat him
well and not do anything unnecessarily. So I'm gonna go
with that two week timeframe as the most. Hopefully we'll
see him back week six. Again, I don't know what

(04:34):
their bye week is, but now that buys have started,
like you mentioned, that will definitely factor into how they
treat guys going forward.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Well, I can help him on that front, Brian. So
this is and this is it's big. It's part of this.
Their buys week seven.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
So there you go. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Two weeks then you basically buy a free week week seven.
So that's realistic. I think that that's a strong possibility,
depending on how he feels during treatments in next week's practices.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah, so I'm looking at this like we're not gonna
see Lamar again til week eight. Now, you aren't gonna
have in week seven regardless. But even still, when you
say that and it's week five, it doesn't put a
little bad feeling in your stomach. I can totally understand that.
Hopefully you've already made the adjustments that you need to
make and found some quarterbacks of value on the waiver

(05:26):
wire to make up for Lamar Jackson. And as far
as how that affects the rest of the Ravens offense, well,
first of all, it's definitely a downgrade. They're not gonna
sustain drives the same way they would have if Lamar
Jackson was back at the Helm, Right, that's the part
that's obvious. Cooper Rush comes in to be the quarterback.
We have seen moments out of Cooper Rush where he

(05:47):
can be bearable, where he can get the ball to
the guys that you needed to get the ball to.
So like last year, right Dak got hurt, he had
to play weeks through ten through seventeen, Ceedee Lamb was
still the wider twenty three during that stretch. Now that's
not Ceedee Lamb numbers, but it's still a fantasy football starter,
so it wasn't completely falling off the cliff. So I

(06:08):
do think Zave Flowers, who already runs routes in the
area of which Cooper Rush targets to begin with, I
do think he'll get his volume, Will he get his efficiency?
Will again, Will it be as many sustained drives?

Speaker 1 (06:21):
No?

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Probably not. What does this do for Derrick Henry? It
seems like people are falling on both sides of the coins.
Some people think this is like the worst thing in
the world could happen to Dereck Henry. Other people think
he'll be okay. I tend to lean on the idea
that he'll ultimately be okay. For nothing more, then the
Ravens game plan has to become pound the football first.

(06:43):
I know the caveat to that is that their defense sucks,
and I don't know their defense is getting any better
because they're dealing with their own injuries, so it makes
it hard to consistently stick with that. But I think
that is their at least their game plan going into
these matchups without Lamar Jackson, for I'm with you, I
think for at least the next two weeks, weeks five,
week six. So I think Derek Henry, if you got them,

(07:06):
you had to play them. I think Zave Flowers is
still a low end wide receiver. Too high and wide
receiver three, you're probably playing him more than not, especially
as we get through the bye weeks. It's just a
little bit of a downgrade. Ultimately, Now maybe some good
news on this part. Jaydon Daniels dealing with that knee issue.
What's the update on him.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
Yeah, So, if you remember last week, they were saying
that they were awaiting.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Evaluation by the physicians to medically.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
Clear him the play, and then lo and behold, Friday
came and he did not get cleared. I was kind
of skeptical about whether or not that was actually the case.
I thought that the commanders themselves were really kind of
keeping him out as a precautionary measure, and that they
were just using the clearance thing as kind of like
an excuse to kind of take some pressure off of

(07:52):
them and their fandoms. So lo and behold, he was
cleared and practiced two days in a row, fully with
apparently no lingering effects that were noticeable. So he stated
yesterday that he was going to be ready to play,
and he's going to be good to go. And it
sounds like the physicians now have agreed and he should

(08:14):
be starting this Sunday now.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
From what I saw, and I don't know if you
saw this as well, it looks like he's going to
be playing with a knee brace this weekend.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
That's what I being reported.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
Yeah, and that I mean, listen, they never came out
and said exactly what was wrong.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
I know he had an MRI.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
I don't think they ever divulged what the findings were.
I was I thought he had an MCL sprain, which
playing with a brace would make sense. It's only been
a couple of weeks. Even if it was a mild injury.
By two weeks usually most guys have recovered enough that
you can confidently let them play as long as there
was no gross instability to me, which there probably wasn't,

(08:51):
otherwise they would have addressed that. So a brace coming
back the first week not unusual to see, especially if
it was an MCL, which again is what I believe
it was, just based on all the kind of information
we've been getting, So that doesn't necessarily surprise me.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Now, will that hamper his mobility? Probably?

Speaker 3 (09:07):
Anytime you're a mobile quarterback, when you have to wear
brace's usually somewhat bulky, so it will, you know, be uncomfortable.
Those things are never quite right. They always kind of
make athletes feel a little bit restricted, and they're not
quite perfectly form fitting, so there you'll never be kind
of as free and loose and as mobile as you
were without it, and when you're one hundred percent healthy.

(09:28):
So keep that in mind. But he's going to play
and he might be slightly limited well, and.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
I wanted to touch on that part of it, because
we want Jane Daniels to be mobile. That's where the
fantasy value comes from. It's not from him throwing the football.
He doesn't produce enough as a pastor to really truly
be fantasy relevant. So do you think he can be mobile.
I mean he can, I just wouldn't expect his usual No.
I agree with that. So for me, I have Jade Daniels. Again,

(09:56):
it's a bye week. If it wasn't a bye week,
I wouldn't have him my top twelve. He does sneak in.
I have him a quarterback eleven heading into this matchup,
So I think you can. If you have him, you
probably don't have a better option. You can go ahead
and play them. I would just limit my expectations for
what kind of production you're gonna get out of him
for this week. Maybe you take that and put in
a boomer Bus type of player somewhere else near a

(10:18):
lot of to see if you can make up The
difference depends on what you're strategy and what's available to you.
But I'm not expecting a huge game here out of
Jane Daniels this week until he gets his mobility back.
We saw last season he had the rib issue for
like three weeks and he was like fantasy irrelevant with
a rib issue just because of the pain that that
causes when you run football.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
So definitely something to watch here. Lower your expectations.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
It's talk about Baker Mayfield, who's been you know, doing
everything he can to win these games for his team
late and run around like a little banshie like he
typically does. But he is picking up some injuries here,
so he's got a buy sep in a neat issue.
Any any concerns here.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
You know, Baker, he's a tough dude. He's toughest nails player.
He's He's developed kind of this reputation as a hard nosed,
physical quarterback. I don't see this as a major issue.
He did return to practice on Thursday after missing an
early recession in the week and was I think limited
on like Wednesday.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
So not not.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
Terribly concerning given the fact that it's Baker and historically speaking,
he's a tough guy and doesn't usually miss time with
with minor injuries, which it sounds like these probably are.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
I'm not overly concerned. Okay, well, that's good to hear.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
I do have him inside my top twelve, actually inside
my top ten this week.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
All right, let's talk about our first forty nine er.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
Yeah, so, brock Perry, if only they had listened, listened,
excuse me to the previous episode that we did, they
might have gotten some tips and pointers and done the
right thing by it.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
The boy and I listened to me ninety five we
have like five more Super Bowls, but you know, it's
kind of where we are, so I don't think they're listening.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
So he reaggravated the toe.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
Issue, right, And I mean we said that that was
going to happen, man like we did.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
Even though it wasn't a true turf toe.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
He had a turf toe variant, which is you know,
it's essentially probably a sprain of that MTP joint, which
is where the metatarsal and the toe kind of come together.
That's an important joint in the foot. It's important for mobility, explosiveness,
changing direction, agility.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
It's a if.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
You're not one hundred percent and you go back out there,
you're not going to give it enough time to get
to a hundred percent, and it's going to be a
lingering issue. And now here we are after one week back.
He reaggravated it, surprise, surprise, And now he's heading to
the bench again. So again but again even okay, so
even if he does head to the bench this week, right,
I think thereby is like notun till like week freaking fourteen. Yeah,

(12:48):
what are you going to do the rest of the way.
This is going to be the thing for You're going
to play season.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
Don't worry. They're going to play on week days without
a doubt.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
Probably, and he probably will be right back here having
the same conversation we get.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
I mean, I guess the only caveat is that it's
a Thursday night game, So I mean, he's not that
he's getting extra time off because he's off anyway. So
he's getting this week off. And then I guess we'll
see what happens next week. And yes, you're right, we
will be talking about Brock Party again next week. And
we and we we talked about this part of it too,
is that mac Jones may be more banged up than

(13:22):
Brock Party.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
Hitting the Sunday. That might have been the reason why ultimately,
you know, what you could do to that issue. Definitely
said that.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
We definitely said his timetable was accelerated because of the
mac Jones injury or aggravation of his PCL injury or
whatever it was. So yeah, that didn't They didn't do
him right though by doing that, And you know, in
this unfortunate situation, I guess they tried to go with
the least injured of the two. And now that they

(13:50):
have swapped positions.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
Well, you know how you alleviate that situation.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
You don't have Asian frickin' Martinez who as your third
string quarterback? Like after brock perty hurt his elbow, you
made sure last season you had three quarterbacks who could
come in and play.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Why that philosophy changed? I have no idea.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
And the guy you have hanging out who's actually the
backup quarterback in a Thursday night game, has never thrown
an NFL pass.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
And don't even know who the hell this guy is, Like,
why do we do it anyway?

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Okay, Russell Wilson might be available. Maybe, yeah, you can
keep that one. I'd rather just go down with the
sinking ship. This guys get into the running back so
I'll have more things to say about the forty Niners.
Bucky Irving foot ankle issue was in a cast and crutches.
I'm not the medical expert you are. I think that's
a pretty bad side.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
That's a bad sign. I think I covered this. I
don't did we cover this last week? Or maybe I
covered this on my podcast that I released on Tuesday.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
In podcast by the way.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
Yeah, so apparently he had this injury to his ankle
or actually foot. I believe most of the reports are
saying foot, and there are some video clips where they
think he might have got hurt, and it didn't look
good because of the way that he got injured. If
that in fact was when he got injured, it was
a bad sign because of the position his foot was

(15:15):
in made it look like a pretty bad midfoot spring.
And I say midfoot spring because I'm not going out
on a limb and saying it was a List Frank injury.
But reports came out saying that he was seeking a
second opinion, and that to me was concerning because that
may have meant that when he saw the team physicians
in Tampa Bay, they thought it might have been a

(15:36):
Lisz Frank. And then fast forward to Thursday and reports
came out saying he's in a boot on crutches, he's
got an MRI pending, which I thought he actually had
that pending a few days ago, and I still haven't
heard about what that showed. It doesn't sound good. He's
definitely not playing this week. This could end up being

(15:56):
a several week absence if that MRI comes back with
anything significant in and around that Liz Frank midfoot area.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Yeah, I think that's what we're waiting on.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
So, like, the whole reason everybody even knew that Bucky
Irving was banged up is because when they asked Todd Bowles,
he had mentioned several players getting a MRIs and that
Bucky Irving was actually one of them. We didn't get
that he came out towards the end of the first half,
which is when we think this happened. But then he
came back in and played the rest of the game.
Played well too at that, I mean, well you used

(16:28):
had the big play anyway. Yeah, so it was a
really weird thing all the way through. Did you did
you see Todd Bowles's comments this week? So reports for
saying that it's week to week, right, Okay, fine, Todd
Bowles was like, if he can get out of the
cast by Friday, he's playing the Sunday. Okay, Todd, whatever
you have this, Yeah, that's not happening. No, it's so

(16:49):
it's for Shod White time you Shod White is actually
my top twenty of running backs, got running back eighteen.
Heading into this week, I'm expecting a large workload. Now
I know that it's a tough matchup against Seattle. A
couple things one keep in mind again, four teams on
buy your options are limited to begin with, plus the.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
Injuries two Seattle.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
While they've been tough on the ground, they have allowed
the seventh most receiving yards to the running backs. And
that's all I care about. When it comes to Rashad White,
I don't care about the rushing. He's inefficient. Whether it's
a good deep beense or a bad deepen, it doesn't matter.
I just want him to catch the ball and that
is a matchup that can be had against Seattle. So
he is a top twenty running back for me heading
into this week. I don't think Sean Tucker is going

(17:29):
to make this a committee of sorts. Okay, So with that,
oh Trey Benson, how short lived it was, and we
all like, oh Trey Benson could get his his opportunity,
James Connor's gone, and yep, that lasted for about three quarters.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
So what do you got on Trey Benson? A minute?

Speaker 3 (17:44):
So apparently MRI revealed some type of miniscus injury and
I think they're recommending arthroscopic surgery at the very least,
and he's been placed on IR, so four games minimum,
not week's games. Best case scenario, it's just an arthroscopy,
meaning they go in there with the cameras and instrumentation

(18:04):
look inside the knee. If they see this meniscus injury,
they clean it up, no repair needed and no other
damage scene and starts his rehabit. He's back in that
four week to timeframe. He might need a week or
two just to amp up. But if if it's that
straightforward and that's simple, you could expect them back once
he comes off IR maybe the following week.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
If it's a little bit more involved, it could extend. Yes.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
So like the timeline I was getting reported was four
to six weeks, that makes sense because.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
That maybe two weeks to amp up his activity once
he gets on the field and starts doing stuff. But
depending again, depending on what they do, it could be
as quick as that fifth week. So you know, once
he misses that fourth game, it could be the following week.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
Yeah, So in his stead, now we're down to Michael
Carter and Amari Demricado, the whack the moll who won't
go away. He always finds a way to pop up
every single season. Somehow in our Fantasy football waiver wires,
I'm reading this and this seems to be what's getting
reported out of Arizona. I'm reading this as Michael Carter

(19:08):
is going to more so assume more or less the
Trey Benson James Connor role being the early down started
running back, and Amrio Demarcato is going to maintain his
passing down role, but maybe passing down plus. Ultimately, I
look at it like this, it's going to be a committee.
I think Michael Carter is going to get the majority
of the carries, Amrio Demarcott is gonna get a majority

(19:30):
of the targets, which, automatically, no matter if it's PPR
standard half paint PPR doesn't matter, automatically makes Michael Carter
the more Fantasy football relevant running back because Kyler Murray
is not checking the ball down to the running backs
this year. It just hasn't been a thing. So I'm
going with Michael Carter here. I do have him as
running back twenty six heading into the week, So a

(19:51):
high end RB three that I think you can play
in a tough spot start here, as you're going to
need to in some situations. That's where I am leading.
I am not really on Demricado aspect of it. The
other thing here, too, is that it's probably not gonna
be pretty, it's probably not gonna be efficient. They at
least have a nice matchrec as Tennessee for this week.

(20:12):
Michael Carter at least has the explosiveness to make a
big play potentially out there Demricado does it. We know
exactly what Demricado is gonna do. He's just going to
catch the ball three yards, fall down. That's what he does.
So you know, give me Michael Carter if they have
need to spot start there. Oh, don't worry. We have

(20:33):
another running back with another knee issue. Braylan Allen got
banged up in that Monday night game. What's going on
with him? Because it seemed to be some mixed reporting
as far as him seeking a second opinion from what
I saw, Yes, I believe he did, and I believe
that they did an MRI and some reports have said
that he has a sprained MCL and he's been placed

(20:56):
on IR and I think I actually posted about this
on my account.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
That's kind of what we thought was going to happen.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
His injury looked a little bit worse than Jayden Daniels,
and his MCL's brain was probably more severe, and in
that case, you know, you're looking at least four weeks.
So I don't think surgery was recommended, although that could
have been why he was seeking a second opinion, because
there's a chance that they may have said, hey, this

(21:24):
need feels unstable. This is more significant than we think
the MRIs even showing, in which case they may have
recommended or offered him a surgical repair of that MCL.
Not all, not always do you need that, but it
may have been something that they offered. Could have been
one of those you know, on the fence, maybe you

(21:45):
fix it, maybe you don't.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
Do you do it? Now? Do you wait?

Speaker 3 (21:48):
So I think that's probably why he sought a second opinion,
and chances are they probably said the same thing or
gave him an option of treating it conservatively, and that's
what he opted for. So it sounds like he's just
going to be on IR and rehabbing this and we'll
see him back in probably four to six weeks.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Okay, Yeah, that's kind of what I'm seeing here too.
So how does that all break down for fantasy wise? Well,
first of all. Isaiah Davis gets into a much larger
role then he so the passing situations in that Monday
night game seventy percent of the long down distances, twenty
nine percent of the routes run.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
And remember it was it was still early in the game.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
It was in the first half, but we were past
the first quarter by the time Brilian Allen got hurt.
So it's not gonna be all Briesaw. Breese Haall is
not gonna go to a ninety percent snap coaln that.
That's not what's on the table here. Isaiah Davis is
gonna get worked in. So if you're in PPR leagues,
because Davis actually has some explosiveness to him, I do
think that's a pickup you can make on the flip side,

(22:43):
Breese Haall. This is good news for Breesehall owners because
finally we don't have to sit there and bite our
nails and hold our breath anytime the Jets get inside
the ten yard line, which is not often by the way,
and Brayln Allen comes in there and steals a touchdown
that breese Haall said him up for in the first place.
So Prista will get more of those opportunities which gives

(23:04):
him a nicer ceiling because he has more of an
opportunity to score With Brillon Allen out of the mix.
It just kind of consolidates a little bit what's going
on in that backfield for the New York Jets, and
we need consolidation. Here's another one, chew A Hubbard. So
this has been a developing situation here. It was banged
up a little with the calv last week, but there
was never really any doubt he was going to play.

(23:24):
Didn't practice yesterday, didn't practice Thursday. We have to wait
to see what he does on Friday. But what do
you got?

Speaker 3 (23:32):
Yeah, this could be a true weekend game time thing.
Sounds like that calf isn't completely healed, which again not
surprising if they put him out there last week and
it was an issue of the week before. So this
kind of sounds a little bit reminiscent of Christian McCaffrey.
These things don't heal very quick. Calf strains can be

(23:52):
very painful and very limiting when you.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
Do have them.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
So the fact that he was able to play through
it was actually quite impressive. The question is do you
continue to push through this or do you give him
a week arrest and hope that it gets a lot better.
I think that would be the wise thing to do,
and maybe that's what they're leaning towards now that he's
got two days where he hasn't stepped on the field.
But I mean, we're at the point in the season
where he probably doesn't need to be out there Friday

(24:17):
doing much anyway.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
Before they can make that decision.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
I think it's truly going to come down to how
he feels on Sunday or whatever time they play, and
whether or not he's able to push it in warm
ups and if he feels like he's good to go.
If he is and they do let him play, this
could be one of those situations where you may see
limited snap count or some limited action based on how
he's feeling. So this is definitely something I would keep

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an eye on well into the weekend, right before kickoff.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
I really don't like it when my running backs have
calf issues. It's a very fairy situation, and I should
know because I'm a sick CMC fan. Anyway, it sucks
too because the Carolina Panthers finally have a plus matchup.
They're playing against the Miami Dolphins this week. This was
a week where you thought, like, okay, cool, I can
get a blow up chewba Hubbard's spot, and that's probably

(25:05):
not going to be the case. But if he's out,
and he needs to be out for this to happen.
But if he's out, Rico Donnald becomes very, very interesting.
And I can't imagine there's too many leagues out there
where he's still available in the waiver wire at this point.
But if he is, pick him up, because I chewa
Hubbard's out, you got to match up against the Dolphins.
Donald will be a top twenty four running back in

(25:26):
my rankings if there's no Hubbard to take away carries
from him. And Donald's already be getting more of the
work inside the five anyway, He's already the guy who's
been scoring regardless. That's what's been so insane about Hubbard's
value this year has gone down because Donald, you know,
little Pigeon Dottal somehow is the goal lineback. I don't
know how it happens, but it does. And the Dolphins
are allowing to set with the most fantasy points to

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the running.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
Backs right now.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
So yeah, if you have Donald, pick him up, especially
if you need him for Chewba Hubbard. This is something
you're definitely going to need to watch. Is this running
back gonna come back? Taj Spears? The deal with the
goal it's finally eligible to come back off the IR.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
What do you got?

Speaker 3 (26:04):
So he's in that twenty one day window. He actually
did practice some in limited fashion. So once you step
back on the field and do stuff, you've now activated
that twenty one day window. So we'll see how he does.
He had this ankle sprain I think it was a
high ankle sprain back in the preseason, and went started
the season on IR, so he's missed the mandatory four games.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Here we are week five.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
I don't think he's gonna be ready this weekend, but
I expect that next week he'll ramp up his activity,
get into a full practice. If he can get a
couple of full practices in, I think that's what he'll
need before they're ready to put him out there.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
Okay, so I don't think he's going to be back
this week, then you know based on that, and I
would agree you in that sentiment. Here's the issue. We've
always been excited about Taj Spears because of his explosive ability.
We know what he can do as a pass catcher,
and there's probably a number of teams out there who've
been holding on to him, waiting for him to come
back again, always looking for running backs wherever you can
find it. And I understand that I got a few

(26:59):
leagues myself for I have that situation. The Titans are
so broken and with Spears, what you count on is
his receiving ability, like when both him and Pollard are healthy,
Poller's the lead bell runner and then Taji Spears spells

(27:19):
him a little bit but mostly gets us work on
passing downs. There's been ten targets to the running back
unit to the first four games.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
I don't know if Cam Woden knows how to throw
the ball at the running backs.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
He needs to because he's getting sacked on every other play,
but it doesn't seem to be happening. So with that,
knowing how the Titans are playing, knowing that we still
have to wait a few more weeks for Taji Spears.
If you had that ir spot, you've been holding him
this whole time. Continue to hold him, but if you
have to make a move because it's a bye week,
it's okay to drop him, because I really I don't
know what his value is truly going to be given

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the state of this team.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
That's the sadness of it all.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
Maybe it just takes over Tony Pollard, but that at
this point, I think you have to kind of view
him as a handcuff the Pollard, not necessarily as a
guy who can give you PPR points as a backup
uh in this situation because it's just untenable. Let's get
into the wide receivers. Your team just never never fails.
A disappoint for the show. So Malik neighbors devastating ACL.

(28:20):
What's what's the timeline here? When do you think he'd
be back next year?

Speaker 3 (28:25):
Nine to twelve months is what you could expect, you know,
as far as I know. Yes, However, I don't even
know if he's had surgery yet.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
And I could be wrong.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
But if that's true, that may mean that there might
be additional structures that are injured, which is not unusual
with ACL injuries. It's pretty rare actually that you'll have
just an isolated injury. Usually you'll have some type of
associated ligament injury, or possibly a meniscus tear, or possibly
all three of the unhappy tryad we call that, and

(28:58):
that's not unusual with ACL tears. Now watching his injury,
it looked pretty straightforward. But the fact that he hasn't
had surgery, if we're correct in that assumption, could mean
that he's dealing with some swelling in the knee. He
might require what we call some prehab will where they
will start to do a little bit of therapy to
try and get some of the swelling down, get something,

(29:20):
restore some of the motion before going forward with the
procedure to reconstruct the ligament and address any other structures
that might be injured. And the reason for that is
if you don't and you rush too soon to surgery,
outcomes can be much worse. They can get develop a
lot of scar tissue adhesions, which can make the knee
very stiff and really put a kink in the therapy

(29:43):
and the protocol going forward. So you try to minimize
the amount of soft tissue swelling fluid inside the knee
before doing this major reconstruction. So that could be why
he hasn't had it yet. Sometimes that may take a week,
maybe even two, so it pushes the timeline back a
little bit. The grand scheme of things is not a
tremendous amount of time, and you're better off waiting than

(30:05):
rushing to do something before you've had a chance to
get that swelling down.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
So that could be what he's dealing with.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
I haven't seen any reports about what else the MRI showed,
just that it confirmed that he had the ACL injury,
which we kind of knew already. So nine to twelve
months is realistic window of time, regardless of what else
they have to do during any ACL reconstruction. But you know,
as we've talked about before with players, it can be

(30:30):
upwards of sometimes eighteen months before guys are really back
to normal, comfortable enough to step back on the field.
We've seen that before. It can be almost two years
before they're back to feeling one hundred percent and they're
kind of past that point of possible rerupture. Usually, if
you can make it to that two year mark, the

(30:52):
incidence of rerupture goes down dramatically. So you get to
that two year mark and everything's good. You're in the clear.
So until that point, where always a little bit cautious
and weary of guys coming off that injury.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
In thirdrey, you're in the clear unless you're Nick Bosa. Sorry,
I just had a so Mi Laku nighbors. Is gonna
be that dad age old question when next year's drafts,
like do you take the guy because he's gonna be
on a discount, and do you take a guy because
you know what type of player he can be, but
because he's coming off the ACL, he's gonna probably be,

(31:24):
you know, a third or fourth rounder instead of that
first rounder that he typically is in fantasy football drafts.
And that's what we'll be tackling again next season. As
far as this season goes, he vacates twenty seven percent
of the targets. Now it's the Giants, not a ton
of targets, not always the most quality of targets, even
with Jackson Dart back there. However, targets are targets, and
we need to find replacement level players for the situations

(31:47):
like this. Wandale Slaton, Theo Johnson, they all get a
bump statistically to some degree. If you ask me to
pick one, it is Wandale between the Brian Daboles scheme
and where Jackson Dark just naturally lakes to throw the football,
which is middle, short to intermediate part of the field,

(32:08):
that's where Wandell operates, so I think there will be
a natural connection. As far as that goes, I don't
think of it as anything more than a wide receiver
three in a spot star during bye weeks. I wouldn't
get overly excited. I know Wandale has had these moments
where he's popped off, like last year had insane amount
of targets even though no one knew because it didn't

(32:29):
really come with any production. Uh and a couple of
weeks ago where he actually had major production in that
game against the Dallas Cowboys.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
It's just a spot star situation. So if you have depth,
you need it, that's where it goes.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
I'm not overly excited about any of these guys suddenly
becoming majorly fantasy football relevant.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
This one was.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
Nasty before we get into this, Okay, I have to
have to jump in.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
You gotta you gotta check absolutely.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
It's kind of funny because there were some quotes in
some of the local news New York papers about how
Neighbors was pulled Jalen Hyatt aside, who's basically moving up
in to fill his role, and was like, now's your
time to shine, And I'm like this guy's had like
three years, dude.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
Like it ain't happening nothing.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
Okay, I've done nothing, and we're talking about a dude
who was like the Fred Belitnakoff, like college Receiver of
the Year award winner, like his senior season. So hey, maybe, right,
maybe we'll get lucky. Maybe this is the chance he's
been waiting for. I don't know, But now you've got
a rookie quarterback there making his second start, do you
really expect big things.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
I wouldn't pick up any of.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
These Giant wide receivers for fantasy purposes, and I'm a
Giants fan, So that's all I'll say about that.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
Yeah, no, And I hear you, Jim High. It's not
even like he has three years.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
But this is a new coaching regime. This is the
same coaching regime that took him in the first place,
and he's done nothing to get on the field. I
don't have high hopes for it either, all right, So,
Tyreek Hil, I saw this injury live and I was like, oh,
my face just cringed.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
I'm like, his leg is not pointing in the correct direction.
Oh it was brutal, Yeah, severe severe injury. One of
one of the few severe injuries we've seen before on
a football field. Marcus Lattimore, the running back for University
of South Carolina a few years ago, had this happened
to him.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
He's a running back.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
He got hit dislocated his knee, not kneecap, not ankle,
like knee, the knee joint, which is a severe injury.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
No, that's hard to do. I would have to imagine.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
Now, it's hard to do, especially on the football field.
It's usually more akin to like a traumatic car accident
or something like that, or a fall from a height,
don't You don't see this a lot in sports, but
when you do, it usually is exactly how it happened,
either a direct contact like what Marcus Latimore had a
few years ago, who, by the way, at the time

(34:59):
of his injury, was a projected first round pick coming
out of University of South Carolina. He ended up falling
to the sixth round and never played in the NFL.
Just to show you how significant.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
Drafted, by the way.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
Yeah, So just to show you the significance of that injury.
And that's you know, after it's been treated. The immediate
concern with this injury is at the time of when
it happens. You have to be very concerned about neurovascular
injury to the arteries and nerves in the back of
the knee, because most of the time when this injury occurs,

(35:36):
the knee is dislocated posterior or towards the back, meaning
the tibia gets shoved backwards and rotated and basically almost
like damages all the structures in the back of the knee.
And so the reason he was taken quickly to the
hospital and remained overnight for observation is so they could

(35:57):
do some tests and make sure that he didn't develop
what's called a heem arthrosis or bleeding inside the knee
due to damage to one of those vascular structures, because
that would have necessitated emergent surgery. Now he didn't have that,
thank goodness, neither did Marcus Latimore. But what's weird about

(36:18):
this whole situation to me is that they're saying that
he's already had surgery and that's it.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
They're not expecting to.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
Do another procedure that is unheard of with this particular injury.
Ninety nine point nine nine nine percent of the time
with this it's you do staged procedures, meaning you will
address some of the ligaments that have been torn to
cause the need to dislocate initially and then come back

(36:48):
and reconstruct usually the ACL secondly or lastly. And the
reason for that is if you do it all at
the same time, there's a much higher incidence of people
developing complications, getting a tremendous amount of scar tissue to
form inside the knee in and around the newly reconstructed ligaments,

(37:10):
which can really really hamper their rehab and set them
back significant amount of time. It can really complicate the rehab.
So historically with this injury, and I've been doing this
for twenty some years, we almost always stage these procedures
and fixed. So I have a feeling that the information
coming out is not accurate. I think he might have

(37:32):
more surgery ahead of him, despite what they're saying out
of his camp. The bottom line is this is season ending,
but more importantly career threatening, like this is something that
as a guy like Tyreek Hill who's a receiver and
relies on his speed, which is his biggest asset, this

(37:52):
can derail any potential chance of seeing him perform at
the level were close to the level he was at.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
For this, Well, that's a thirty year old type wide
receiver too.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
On top of it the ages of fact, and then
throw in the age on top of everything else. The
age is almost just like a little sprinkle of you know, dust,
Like that's even the least of the problems, even if
he was twenty two.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
This is a major, major thing, Yeah, brutal. One thing
to light in the mood. Though. Do you think it's
that Tyreek kills crazy?

Speaker 2 (38:24):
Or is that he was actually happy that he doesn't
have to play for the Dolphins anymore?

Speaker 1 (38:28):
Because like, he didn't look like he was in pain.
He was smiling.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
How are you smiling and joking and your leg is
bent in the opposite direction, Like what's happening right now?

Speaker 3 (38:41):
What I'll say to that is everybody deals with pain differently.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
I'm sure he was hurt. I'm sure he was hurting.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
How he manifested that it is not probably how you
and I would have done it or the lower the
majority of people in.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
A little ball the floor, crying my eyes out.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
Exactly, and most people would. But you know, that's probably
just how he handled it. And I'm sure that deep
down he probably was like thank God, I don't have
to step back on that field with tua Or and
the rest of this team. And I'm just gonna go
chill and hang out with my thirty kids and a
couple of baby mamas and get pampered while I recover

(39:20):
and make my money which is guaranteed, and I'll be fine.
You know, maybe I'll play one day again, but not
for the immediate future.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
He finally got the hospital ball to end all hospital balls. Basically,
oh jeez.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
Yeah, so he goes out what happens, And I talked
about this yesterday on the show, so make sure you
go back download Operation Domination check it out on YouTube
because we talked about how this is.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
This has to be Jaalen Wattle's time to shine.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
We've been begging for Jailing Wall to get more consistent opportunities.
Has really not been the case since Tyreek Hill has
joined the team, and we haven't really seen it since
Wattle's rookie year. As a result, well now it's here,
So one Mike be Daniel, can you please give him
the ball like you're supposed to, because it's been kind
of questionable at times that you're actually going to use
the guys you're supposed.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
To when you do.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
But two, Wattle, we know what your talent profile is
supposed to be. Can you capitalize on the extra volume
headed to you? That is the question that we need
to see. So twenty five percent of the target share vacated.
Jalen Wattle, I'm trusting he's going to get the ball
more is a wide receiver thirteen, so the high end

(40:31):
wide receiver to almost borderline top twelve guy for me
heading into this week against Carolina play Jaylen Wattle. Okay,
ceedee lamb ankle issue.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
What's the update?

Speaker 3 (40:41):
Yeah, I think there was some video of him like
kind of doing some light stuff on the sideline earlier
this week, which is good. I mean that's kind of
where he should be. I still whenn't necessarily change the
overall outlook. It's going to be between three to four weeks.
I think they're going to stick to that, which I
think would be the smart thing to do as well,
because we've seen guys try to come back too soon

(41:03):
from these injuries and it lingers for a while and
the risk of re injuries high. So I while I'm
encouraged by what I saw, I'm not necessarily inclined to
change the timeline.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
Okay, well, and I agree with you. I don't think
there's any rush to bring him back. I mean, Dallas, look,
as long as they go like five hundred and are
competing for a wild card spot, that's gonna be a
win for this team anyway. So I don't think there's
any real reason to rush him back. Regardless, George Pickens
still gets the ample boost here on the volume.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
Keep playing.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
I'm like you had them. Let's get the commanders Terry McLaurin,
who's been on this list before, but we also have
Deebo Samuel kick it off with McLaurin first to see
what her update is.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
Not much.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
I mean, we apparently still dealing with this quadriceps issue.
I don't think we've ever really gotten definitive information about
what exactly the injury is. We will surmise that as
a strain of the quadriceps. I know when it first happened,
it sounded like he was seeking multiple opinions. There's usually
not any thing surgical for this, unfortunately, but they're already

(42:03):
ruled him out for Week five, so we're not going
to see him on the flip side with Deebo Samuel
apparently on Thursday he was a non participant some guys.
Some reports stated that he was doing some drills and
doing a little bit of rehab work on the side.
I don't know exactly what the issue is. They're saying.

(42:23):
He could be some planter fasciitis, could be something chronic
that maybe became acute, might have just flared up on him.
I don't recall a specific injury. I didn't see any
reports about a specific play. So, you know, we'll see
what he does on Friday. I don't know if that's
necessarily going to determine whether he plays or not. I
think he'll probably play through this, but this could be

(42:43):
something that pops up from time to time going forward,
if that's what it is.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
Yeah, And just like Deebo fashion, he finds a way
to be a little bit banged up and leaving you
wondering about Sunday. No McLaurin, we got to see about Debo.
What does that mean of Diebo where Miss zach Ertz
gets a boost? You want to play Russian Roulette with
Luke McCaffrey, and you know, and knowing Noel Brown got

(43:09):
ruled out too, by the way, so that's out of
the question, Jalen Lane like have at it.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
And this is another reason why I'm not super.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
Big on Jayden Daniels heading into this week, even on
a heavy buy as well, because other than zach Ertz,
I don't even know who he has to throw the
ball too, on top of probably being limited as a rusher.
Just to kind of bring that back full circle in
this one, so we'll keep our eyes on what's going
on with deebo uh Cedric Tillman hamstring IR already, So
how bad do you think this is?

Speaker 3 (43:35):
It must have been pretty bad. It must have been
pretty bad. Yeah, I mean and and like that's just
on IR right now. You throw in twenty one day window.
There's no guarantee he's gonna be back the first week.
This could stretch out that entire time, which now you're
looking at like seven weeks. That would be not unusual
if if he went on the IR that fast. That
tells me it's probably pretty bad, maybe not surgically bad,

(44:00):
because you can have all different types of hamstring strains.
You can have it in the middle of the muscle tissue,
you can have it more towards the insertion down by
the knee. You can have it up higher in the origin,
up in the glute region, which is where a lot
of the traumatic ones happen which require surgery. So the
other ones can it can happen anywhere in between, essentially
anywhere along the course of that muscle tissue.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
So and it must have been bad to go on.
I r that quickly.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
He tells me that you might not see him back
for more than four weeks.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
That's that's my feeling as well. Now, well with Tilman,
I know he's a wide receiver for tier at best.
In this Cleveland Browns offense is a disaster. But as
we know, Joe Flacco's bench, Dylan Gabriel's in. Not Dylan
Gabriel fan. But that's just one more step closer to
Shador Sanders. I can't believe I'm pulling for Shador because
I was the guy who was saying his profile is

(44:53):
no better than the third rounder when everybody else was
trying to make him a top two pick in the
NFL draft. But he is the best quote back on
the Browns, and this is kind of crazy that he's
not even really getting this shot. It's not Dylan Gabriel
stinks he's too small, he doesn't have an arm he's
not that mobile.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
This is not gonna go well.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
I'm the only way it goes better than what it
was with Joe Flacco is that they'll probably line him
up under center maybe a little bit more often, and
not just line them up in shotgun and let.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
Him get killed.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
That's the only thing that might look a little bit
better on Sunday. The production wise, I don't expect much
of a change here, and unless you have Quinn Sewn Jenkins,
maybe Harold Fannon because Gabriel probably will target the tight
ends in this one to Djoku fannin a little bit.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
I'm not touching anything in the Browns fantasy wise anyway. Judy. Also,
you get add to the list of players that just suck.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
Calvin Ridley knee and elbow issues going on in the
last couple of weeks, but it does seem to be
bothering him more so this week.

Speaker 3 (45:48):
What's your update on him. I don't got much here.
I don't recall any specific injury. Like you said, I
think he's been dealing with this before this week. Didn't
practice I think earlier in the week, and then was
limited on Thursday. So I mean fifty to fifty here.
I'm sure he's going to carry a questionable tag heading

(46:08):
into the weekend, and he might get some more work
done in on Friday, which might be more telling, but
he you know, watch as you go forward into the
weekend and look for game time call on this one,
but not too much specifics out.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
There, regardless you're putting on the bench, even if he
was playing. I actually want them to rule him out because,
like I said, two games in a row now, he
hasn't been able to really finish the game fully. He's
been kind of in and out of the lineup. That's
why he's been the wide receiver four in snaps on
the Titans. Because of that, just sit out and if
you don't have an ir spot when he does sit out,

(46:42):
go ahead and drop him. Because aomn or I get
the name rate, he's been the number one wide receiver
and he's not really a fantasy relevant in ten to
twelve man leagues either. He's just kind of a dark
throat that you can kind of take a shot on
here or there. This doesn't add anything else. Two aoman
oars you know, the target share because like I said,

(47:04):
Calvi really has been in and out of the lineup anyway.
And just to put a pin on it, Ridley's been
the wide receiver seventy seven and fantasy points per game.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
What move on? What are we doing? All right? So
Michael Pittman hamstring issue.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
This popped up today because he practiced him full yesterday
and then he was a limited participant in practice today
or Thursday.

Speaker 3 (47:25):
Yeah, So while that is a little bit more encouraging
because maybe it was just some cramping or some tightness
he felt, they are saying is day to day. So
now Friday usually don't do much, but that could be
his time to test it out before the game. So
that something that'll certainly keep an eye on. This could
be a true game time decision. I don't think they're

(47:45):
gonna push him through it. If he has any discomfort
or tightness or soreness in that hamstring, they might rule
him out on game day.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
That wouldn't be unusual.

Speaker 3 (47:55):
I think the fact that Alex Pierce, who were about
to talk about, is coming back from cushion, and then
you got Josh Downs, who's who's somewhat healthy. He was
on the injury report a couple of weeks ago and
came back and has not had any other issues. They
might be more inclined to sit Pittman this week if
he's got any type of soreness or discomfort.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
Which is huge because Pittman's been great for Who would
have thought Daniel Jones revives the fantasy value of Michael Pittman.
But that's exactly the case. Pittman' is a wide.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
Receiver fifteen on points per game in a heavy bye week.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
People need Michael Pittman right now because they I mean
I thought, at least personally that Josh Downs was going
to be the guy because you know how much Jones
loves throwing it to the slot wide receiver. Well, that
really has not been the case. It's been pretty much
all Michael Pittman all the way. Now, if he's out,
does that open up some targets for Josh Downs? Is
he a sneaky little flex play?

Speaker 1 (48:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (48:44):
Probably, Alec Pierce maybe want that big shot play.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
Potentially we want to take a darth Row.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
Maybe, But you want Pittman right now because he's been
playing really well and you get a nice match up
against the Raiders who can't cover wide receivers. They're doing
everything else decently on that team actually defensive been a
little impressed with what Pete Carroll has done with that
team defensively, but wide receivers are still lighting them up,
so it does make it a little bit tricky. You
need to watch this. So Alex Pierce, so you think
he's going to come back from his concussion is Yeah, He's.

Speaker 3 (49:11):
Practiced in two straight days in full So that tells
me that he probably didn't have any side effects after
the first full session, which means he's one step closer
and nearing clearing the protocol. So there's almost no way
at this point now that he's going to go backwards
if he hasn't already heading into the weekend.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
So I think he'll he'll clear a protocol and be
out available. All right, Well that's that's good news there.
Back to my forty nine ers.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
Okay, so we really know what to say whatever? Right,
So Juan Jennings rib shoulder, I feel like I'm missing something.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
Yeah, okay, that was that was the thing. I think
that was keeping him out last week. And then I
don't even remember the rib part. I don't know we
picked up the rib shoulder. I think he got one
point it was shoulder.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
Yeah, Now, a little bit of everything, and then Ricky
Pierre saw minor PCL spray.

Speaker 3 (50:07):
Okay, yeah, which is what we thought the week before
because he was dealing with the knee issue and he
had a history of this or something I've read in
a few reports. And but then he played and boom,
now they're saying he actually sprained his PCL or A lot.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
Happens when you're trying to you know, the only guy
out there making cats only straight on her knee, Like,
I can't blame for it. So I got my question
more so is what do you think they're prognosis is
past week five?

Speaker 3 (50:33):
Well, I think Pierce all is actually or I'm more
optimistic about him coming back sooner than Juwan Jennings. I mean,
despite the fact that this dude's Juwan Jennings has a
contract that's late incentive laden on him playing, and yet
he still hasn't stepped out there, and this is going
to be week two now that he's on the sideline again.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
I mean, the forty nine ers were smart, I guess here.
Jawan played on Sunday as Jacksonville. That's where he picked
up the rib issue at.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
Just didn't last very long.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
That's what I'm saying, Like he they knew what they
were doing when they put this contract in front of him,
because obviously he can't make it through a full game.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
So let's let me let me ask you this, because
this is a conversation that's been going on, and I
have to think there's something to it. The forty nine
ers under Kyle Shanahan have been, by it's not even
close by far the most injured team. And I've heard
all kinds of, you know, explanations about why I think
this is. Sometimes some of the practices might be hard,

(51:31):
and the rest of the NFL YadA YadA, YadA YadA.
When you see a team like this, it can't just
be luck, right, can't just be luck Well.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
Here's the thing, Dan, Usually when.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
I do my Super Bowl episode, I go back and
I look at some of this injury statistics throughout the league,
and almost year after year you'll see the teams that
make it far, whether they be at the Super Bowl
or the conference finals, conference championships. Those teams historic are
the ones that have lost the least amount of time

(52:03):
to injuries throughout the year for their players. Eagles last
two years have been like top of the list and
no surprise, you know they've been successful. And a couple
other teams, now the forty nine ers just a few
years ago were up on that list, and there was
one year where they were actually in the conference finals

(52:24):
or championships or whatever when Brock that year brock Porty,
I think was maybe his kind of debut, and all
their injuries happened early in the year and they got
all their guys back towards the end and went on
a big run.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
So timing playing trying to get me hope.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
So you're trying to don't throw the wave the white flag.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
Yet don't throw it in towel. Well, you were right.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
You are correct in that there has to be something
going on here, whether it be the players themselves are
not doing what they need to do to act adequately
prepare for the upcoming season, whether something with their training
regimen or their practice schedule something. There's usually something that
that could potentially be causing this. And I can guarantee
you that the the medical staff has looked into it,

(53:11):
and the training staff, the performance coaches that work with
the team. I'm sure the coaching staff has also looked
into it, and maybe they just can't pinpoint any one thing.
They just got a bunch of players that maybe you're
just physiologically not quite made up of the fibers that
are necessary to make it through an NFL season unscathed.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
I don't know that could be it too.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
It's insane, all right, So one more player then we
can wrap this whole thing up. So brock Bauer's knee issue,
because so I didn't have my list at first. I'm like,
he's been dealing with the knee for a while, we've
still been playing. But then he didn't practice today after
being limited yesterday. That's something different than what we've seen
the past couple of weeks.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
Yeah, And the reports that we were looking up because
we were doing a little bit of research before we
started recording, said that, you know, he injured this after
Week one or during Week one's game, and then may
have reaggravated it this past weekend. We don't know exactly
what it is. Maybe it's some type of sprain, could
be a chronic issue that has become more acute causing

(54:13):
some inflammation. We're not exactly sure. He was a full
participant in three practices though leading it up to last
week's matchup, So now you have to wonder, if he
can't get in this week, are we going to see
him this week? So something certainly worth keeping an eye on.
It's fifty to fifty right now. But if he doesn't

(54:34):
do anything on Friday, I'd be hard pressed to see
him out there on Sunday. I would put all my
chips in that basket, because, like we said, if it
got injured week one and he toughed it out and
practiced and played the next couple weeks and now he's not,
then sounds like it might have gotten to the point
where he needs to sit.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
Yeah, which would be really unfortunate because he needs your
tight ends as much as possible, even though he hasn't
been performing to the level that you were hoping for
when you rafted them in the first two rounds of
the draft. Which is why I go back and say
I never draft tight ends in the first two rounds.
It never really seems to go to plan unless you
had Travis Kelsey for all those years. But here's here's
what I will say. If he's out, there's not I'm
not like picking up Michael Meyer if he's back or

(55:14):
anything like that. It's just It's just a boost for
Jacoby Myers. That's that's all it is. It's a boost
for Jacoby Myers and and frankly nothing else. Brian is
always man love having you on. I can't believe we
actually got through all that in an hour and didn't
think we're gonna be able.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
To do it. But why'd you tell everybody where to
check you out at? And what you got coming up? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (55:33):
So you can find me at my x handle which
is down below here, at Injured List pod, and then
the injured list dot com, my website, Injured List Podcast
on other social media including Instagram and Facebook, and then
you know our network, that sports podcast network, which you
can see above my head here. I do shows over

(55:54):
there at TSS Fantasy on Fridays and Sunday mornings for
the last minute injury updates, So check those shows out.
You can follow my social media usually put out some clips.
I'll post some stuff as more information becomes available, as
people are talking about injuries and players that are injured.
I'll sometimes shoot out some posts and then I've been

(56:14):
I'm gonna start doing a little bit of like a
Tuesday early week kind of injury assessment summation following the
Monday night game. I'll be putting out an episode on
Tuesday mornings on my podcast, so you can get that,
you know, wherever you listen to your favorite podcasts. I'm
on all the platforms, and that's just gonna be a

(56:34):
quick kind of summary of some of the weekends, injuries
or guys coming off of the weekend, and any updates
that may have occurred after Sundays and Mondays games. So
that's a new thing I'm gonna be doing going forward.
I did one this past week after Tyreek Hill's massive injury,
and so I'll try and do that for the next
couple of weeks going forward. For the rest of the season,
I should say awesome.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
So make sure you're checking out Brian there.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
You can also catch this show on your favorite podcast
app on YouTube channel, at ff advice Net and catch
me at dan mader Ff. We got the sports betting
episode coming out tomorrow. I will be writing my article
that'll be out on Saturday on the Huddle, So make
sure you're checking out all of those things going into

(57:18):
your weekend because I like to line your pocket screen
not just help you win fantasy football leagues.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
And until then everybody, good luck, we'll see you soon.

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