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Speaker 1 (00:06):
This is the Optimal
Human Experience Podcast with Dr
Joseph DiRuzzo.
To learn more, visitOptimalHumanExperiencecom.
And now.
Dr Joseph DiRuzzo and theOptimal Human Experience Podcast
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Speaker 2 (00:41):
Welcome to Episode 9
of the Optimal Human Experience
Podcast with Dr Joseph DiRuzzo.
Please visitOptimalHumanExperiencecom.
Dr Joe, what do you want totalk about Buenos dias?
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Buenos dias.
We can talk about health, alittle bit Health.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Health.
What's that I thought we weregoing to talk about?
Oh, wait a minute.
It ties together, doesn't it?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Oddly enough.
Oddly enough, all this stuffties together.
You know, one of the big dealsthese days is inflammation
People are inflamed and you knowa little bit about that.
There's certain inflammatorymarkers and so on and so forth.
What happens when people areinflamed?
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Well, they're not too happy.
No, they're not too happy.
One of the things that in mostpeople the skull is inflexible.
Mostly it has a certain flex toit, the cranial sacral movement
, but it's nonelastic.
It doesn't expandcharacteristically.
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So if you're eating food thatis deficient in, we'll say,
vitamin D or B5, panathenic acid, which is characteristically
associated with adrenal functionand the anti-inflammatory
hormones, when you don't secreteenough anti-inflammatory
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hormones, the natural process ofinflammation gets a little bit
out of control.
And if the brain expandsslightly because it's inflamed
right, you get a little cerebraledema.
If you reach over and pinchmost people's ankles, what do
they?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
do Smack me right in
the face.
Every time I do that, I getsmacked right in the face.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
They howl with pain
why they're swollen why their
kidneys don't work right andthey're inflamed and they're
eating all kinds of food thattend to retain fluids, so they
will have a certain amount ofcerebral edema.
It is subclinical.
You don't really notice itunless you sit and talk with
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them, and then you find out justhow crazy they are.
People are deluded and they arehallucinating and they're ill.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
So you're saying, by
talking with someone, their
inner inflammation will manifestin their speech patterns.
Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Sure it will manifest
in their emotions how many
cases of road rage are thereevery day.
People are driving down thestreet and I watch some of the
videos and they all go out oftheir way to get in each other's
face and yell and shout.
If you go on YouTube and lookat some of these shows between
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men and women, they basicallyare a situation where the men
are telling the women that men,like women, are pure and chaste
and stay home and change stinkydiapers, while the guys go out
to the club and hang out withtheir friends and the women
they're not really buying that.
Somewhere, when you get a bodycount above 20 or 30,000, like,
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the bloom is off the rose andrelationships take on a whole
new dynamic.
So, anyways, what is the longterm effect of removing the
micron nutrients from the food?
Have white bread.
Before it was white, it waswheat and it had all these
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micronutrients in it.
They refine the flour, theytake the micronutrients out.
And what is the long termeffect?
Of course you can eat a pieceof white toast and it's not
going to kill you right then andthere.
But what is the long term effectof feeding people foods that
have had the micronutrientsvitamins, enzymes, minerals, co
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enzymes and micronutrients?
What happens?
You all, you're undernourished,you'd think, in a bizarre way,
yeah, in a bizarre way, and theygo to the hospital and the
doctor will come in who'sbloated, almost beyond
recognition as human, andpronounce that all the
diagnostic tests have revealednothing and they're fine.
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They should go home.
And it's really just not quitelike that, yeah, so here you
have.
An entire civilian populationThen are deprived of the
synergistic micronutrients thatmake human metabolism smooth.
And by the numbers, I have asister.
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She was depressed.
I said let's go to the store.
I bought her a pound of grassfed beef hamburger.
What's in grass fed beef andwhat's the difference between
that and the other regular beef?
Speaker 2 (05:52):
well, I didn't have
all of the hormones and added
and antibiotics and and Last Iheard and when I lived out in
the country, what I saw cowseating.
When they were left to theirown devices and out in a field
they would eat grass and that'sall they would eat by and large.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
And the difference is
.
In grass there is an amino acidknown as tryptophan.
Define is a precursor ofserotonin.
Serotonin is one of thoseLittle things in your nervous
system that keeps you wellbalanced.
People get antidepressants inthere, called what SSRI's
selective serotonin Reopticinhibitors and they mess with
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the inner synaptic cleft andthey keep a certain level of
serotonin in the inside of theneurons and until you run out of
it.
And then people, people,characteristically pick up a
baseball bat and go to town onwhoever happens to be handy.
Well, and those don't.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Don't those also His?
I lost my older brother tosuicide right and they had put
him on, if I'm not mistaken,ssri.
Yeah, and one of the sideeffects was Suicidal thoughts.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Yeah, suicidal and
homicidal.
I mean you get the best of bothworlds, you know.
So I cooked.
I cooked lightly a little ofthis Grass-fed beef, fed it to
her.
15 minutes later she was fine.
What is the long-term effect ofhaving an entire civilian
population of 200 million pluspeople who have had the
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tryptophan and all the othermicro nutrients Remove for
altered or adulterated?
You know, my acupunctureteacher, michio Kushi, used to
laugh at the idea of five-yearcontrolled studies.
He'd say we have controlledstudies and go back a thousand
years.
Your five-year controlled studyreally doesn't mean all that
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much by comparison.
So what is the optimal humanexperience?
Well, there's a book called theChina study and in it the
Chinese have kept records of whodid what in terms of their
health and longevity etc.
And they basically sayplant-based, for the most part
whole food.
And If you try it, your lifeintellectually will begin once
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you get into a plant-based wholefood, a little meat, little
fish here and there.
But the reason why is, if youhave a standard American diet
SAD, sad, with most of itsmicronutrients removed, your
adrenal system will be operating, but it will be operating
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Suboptimally.
There will be a certain degreeof inflammation.
It's in all the medicalliterature these days, there'll
be a certain amount of edema andthe micro Arterials in your
brain, the little, tiny, tiny,tiny ones where the rubber meets
the road, where Oxygen isreleased from the bloodstream
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and gets into the nerve cells,it's impaired and so people are.
Just they're kind of dull, youknow, and and they will go
invite for a vote for somebodywho doesn't obviously doesn't
have their best interests in ourart and they won't notice that
there's a problem.
I used to say, you know, peoplehave problems with observation.
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They don't notice that theirspouse is having an affair with
the next-door neighbor and theirkids are upstairs in the
bedroom snorting cocaine andshooting heroin.
How they don't notice thesethings is beyond me.
But nonetheless, when youreduce the oxygenation, even a
little tiny bit, and you getsuboptimal Optimal oxygenation
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in the brain, then there is aproblem.
There's accidents, there'sarguments, there's fighting,
killing, you know just all thisproblematic behavior.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Now go ahead.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Let this be a lesson
to you.
Yes, sir, you know, I I was.
I practiced nutritional therapyfor I don't know 40, some odd
years, 50 years, and it wasn'tuntil I decided that I wanted to
increase the functionality ofmy joints that I went to and I
started consuming large amountsof Wheat germ oil.
(10:35):
People will say plant oils arenot good for you.
All right, whatever.
I started consuming three tofour tablespoons three times a
day and After about six weeks ofthat, all of a sudden, my body
felt dramatically better and mythinking was better and the
Spring came back into my steps.
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So the point is the end resultof Removing all of the nutrients
from our food and giving thewhite bread and white flour and
white sugar I mean the endresults over a long period of
time is Less than, then, theoptimal human experience.
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People get dull and they don'tthink well and they're not
curious.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Now tell me, before
we, before before we hit record,
we were discussing and I'm kindof in the back of my mind
seeing how this must fittogether we were discussing
another layer of rapportdeprivation sickness, which you
see everywhere.
Once you, once it's you had thedistinction of okay, what,
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what's really going on there?
And it's that.
How did you describe it?
Antagonistic?
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Antagonistic
argumentative syndrome.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
So you're saying.
I think that this lack ofnutrition in the body certainly
doesn't help that get, but itpredisposes.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
if people are
inflamed, I mean you say hello
to them they go off like a bomb,right?
Yeah, I've had that happen rightand and in I see a lot of
people who are be arguing oversomething that no one in their
right mind would would careabout at all, and they will
argue with the desperation of adrowning man.
You know those guys who aretrying to get the girls to stay
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home and change stinky diapers.
Well, they went out to the, tothe club and hung out with their
friends.
Their argument was deliveredwith a degree of desperation
that was really just shocking.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Passionate
desperation.
Yeah, really.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
And the girls.
I mean they were not buying it,you know they had.
How are you going to keep themdown on the farm after they've
seen pay re?
Speaker 2 (12:48):
pay re, pay re.
France and France.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
So we have reported
deprivation sickness as a format
and we have the antagonisticargumentative phenomena.
And this is a very dangerousthing in the sense that if you
read the book the stress of lifeby Dr Han Selie, he did the
original work on stress and hewould take rats and inject them
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with foreign substance and stuffand all of his colleagues said
to him you're studying thepharmacology of dirt.
And they were in sense that youknow he was studying what
happens when you stress theseexperimental animals by
injecting weird thingsunderneath their skin and he
eventually came up with theycall you know, the generalized
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adaptation syndrome.
First you respond in alarm andthen after a while you get used
to it, or you try to get used toit and you go into the
resistance stage and then aftera while you get into the
exhaustion stage and then, afterthe exhaustion stage is the
organism just rolls over and isdead.
Right, and it will go through,it will get developed.
(14:01):
Do you want no ulceration?
How many times have you heardpeople say well, I gotta go to
the doctor, I got an ulcer.
Oh yeah, how many people haveulcers?
Yeah, how you can't get anulcer unless you're under too
much stress or you are.
Your micronutrients have beenremoved.
The duonal ulceration, adrenalcortical hypertrophy and
lymphatic atrophy.
The immune system is down.
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How many people get cancer?
How does that happen?
Speaker 2 (14:27):
One out of three, one
out of four, now, something
like that, just a horrendousnumbers of people, just under
horrendous numbers of people.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
And the thing where
physiologic healthcare fits in
with um rapport deprivationsickness fits in with um
prenatal reimpering, which fitsin with the creativity
technology.
All this material fits togetherand it gives you the
opportunity to experience theoptimal human experience.
That's what this is all about.
It's a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Well, that's about
half.
We're about halfway through.
Just want to mention realquickly, if you enjoy what
you're listening to, what you'rehearing now, if you want to
hear more, if you want to learnmore, there's a website,
optimalhumanexperiencecom.
That'soptimalhumanexperiencecom.
You can find all the previouspodcasts there, uh, and links to
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your favorite podcast deliveryplatform.
There's some videos, uh,courses, that sort of thing,
optimalhumanexperiencecom.
I rudely interrupted you.
What were you about to?
Speaker 3 (15:29):
say, dr, you know,
for our, for our listening
audience, if you're not reallyenjoying your life and being
productive and having fun andhaving nice relationships and
making you know a good incomewith prosperity, and if you
don't have a rapport with allies, if you don't have the
experience of makingcontribution and having personal
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freedom and self-expression,you're.
What you're looking for is the,the optimal human experience,
and the material we'representing is designed to slowly
push you in that direction.
This is this is not anovernight cure.
However, as soon as you starteating food that's got some
nutrition in it, miracle uponmiracles, you'll notice that
your health improves and youstart to emotionally, mentally,
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emotionally feel a lot better.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
So you can actually
feel better quickly.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Yeah, you can feel
you can start.
You can start today.
You can start today.
And as far as physical healthgoes, that really is the last
thing to break down and it's thefirst thing to get fixed.
As soon as you start eating anutrient dense diet, your health
will inevitably improve,without question.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Well, and and combine
that with I'm right now I'm
thinking about.
I don't think we've gone overthis story from your practice on
the podcast.
I think there's a video outthere about it, but there was a
couple that came to you, came toone of your presentations, I
think down in Houston orsomething, and they had been
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raised during the depression, asI recall.
Tell us that story, joe.
Let me, let me pull up a chairhere around the fire, if you
remember it.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Do you remember it?
Speaker 2 (17:15):
For me.
I'd like to try some of thisprenatal re-imprinting stuff
there, joe.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
For me it had
particular significance.
I had an aunt named Doris andan uncle who was married to
Doris and they were, you know,in their sixties or seventies,
just a few years ago, and theyhad a tone of voice that made
fingernails screeching on achalkboard Sound good.
So Sandy would go, doris, whatdid you do with so and so?
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And Doris would go, sandy, Iput it right in front of you and
they, of course, would be outof rapport.
And they would be in a rapport,being what?
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Out of rapport.
Yeah, and there was theirmarriage.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
They were out of
rapport and in rapport by being
out of rapport.
Well, anyway, I was in Houstonand a gal put together a group
for me and there were.
We did prenatal re-imprintingand there's a physiologic
component to prenatalre-imprinting.
It has to do with set points ofthe promising sequence of
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firing of the neurons in thecentral nerve axis and it's
amazing.
Set points it's amazing.
Set points are just thatsomething gets set and it stays
there and if it's in adevelopmental time, it'll stay
there throughout the entirelifetime of the individual
involved.
So I had to these two peopleand they were about the same age
as my aunt Doris and my uncleSandy.
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And after I gave the seminar,they came up to me and they said
, jay, that's not it Interesting, we'd like to have a private
session with you.
And the guy said, yeah, wereally want to do that.
Yeah, we really want we.
We thought that soundsinteresting and we'd like to
have.
So I said, okay, let's.
So what was absent from mostpeople's diets during the
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depression?
Well, besides food.
Besides food.
People don't know it, but 25%of the American population died
prematurely of diseases relatedto malnutrition During the
depression.
I mean, it was a problem so mymother used to talk about during
the depression.
They lived on bread and peanutbutter and coffee, and there was
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white bread with everythingmilled out of it and peanut
butter and coffee Three of themain food groups you can't think
of anything more irritating andmelanin.
Anyways, I had these folks atjust just as a.
You know, as an afterthought, Ihad him sit down.
I said close your eyes, putyourself in a prenatal position,
take a deep breath, imagineyourself floating calmly in the
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amniotic fluid and imagine yourmother is sitting outside in the
gentle sunlight with fresh air,eating a large bowl of
blueberries and heavy cream.
What's in heavy cream?
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Decentral fatty acids
.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
So and this was one
of my first experiences with
doing altering physiology theysat there and they twitched and
they shook and they and I didn'tknow what was going on.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
You were like, oh,
maybe, maybe you should forget
those blueberries for a second.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
After about 15 or 20
minutes of you know, there, the
woman put her head up and saidwhy, dear, I feel differently,
different, and I seem to feelbetter and I'm calmer inside.
What is your experience?
And he goes why, dear, I feelthe same way, I'm, I'm, but what
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?
That was remarkable.
I, I'm and I'm going likewhat's going on here, and that
was the doorway that led intoall of the physiologic patterns
of prenatal re-imprinting.
And there's a, there's a wholebunch of them.
People will say to me Isabotaged myself.
I get ready to do something,and then I'm almost ready to do
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it, and then I pull back.
I feel like I shouldn't do itand I'll, I'll think about doing
something and I'll get ready todo it, and then I won't do it
because I'll pull back and Iwon't do it.
So I'll say to them put yourhead down, imagine yourself
floating in the amniotic fluid.
And this is common, it's notalways, but it's common.
I'll say tell me about thecondition of your umbilical cord
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, and they'll go.
And they'll go, well, it's kindof kinked.
And I'll say that feeling ofholding back does what?
What feeling does that kinkedumbilical cord give you?
And they'll say well, yeah, itmakes me feel like I should hold
back.
I'll say is it a parallelfeeling, is it a completely
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different feeling, or is it aneutral feeling?
Or is it similar?
And they'll go.
I mean, 90 times out of ahundred they'll go and it's the
same feeling.
And I'll say the feeling iswhat you can't move, you can't.
You can't move, or yourumbilical cord will kink and
you'll die.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
You better hold back,
you better just just slow down,
cowboy.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Same feeling over and
over again.
So this feeling that I shouldhold back is just one of a
plethora all kinds of things, umthat we found our physiologic
patterns that influencepersonality structure and
influence who you are, and theprenatal technology is.
It's an astonishingly robusttechnology and the and it is
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core is that it makes absolutelyperfect sense, but only in
retrospect.
Right, that's you know manypeople say to me boy, that
certainly makes sense, I've hadthat all my life.
I'll say does it make sense?
That go yeah, but only inretrospect.
So the interface betweenphysiology and psychology is in
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in many ways identified by theprenatal technique, pre and
perinatal psychology and theconcept of the initial
imprinting experience.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Well, which ties back
to um, in a recent episode we
talked about that, that analogyof um, of the kaleidoscope.
Well, there are only so manylittle beads or bits of um,
whatever they put in there inthe kaleidoscope, but it
magnifies them and multipliesthem into this, this
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ever-changing image, but it'sall the same little stuff, it's
the same stuff.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Your life is made up
of of possibly millions of
imprints, uh, that you receivedduring a very formative time and
you just simply run that thingover and over again.
You know, I was having problemsin my life and I would work
hard at something and I wouldnot make any progress.
And once I got to the pointwhere I realized that everything
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was influenced by the prenatalexperience, as I was saying, I
would have a problem in my life.
I'd work on it, hammering tongs, diligent.
I'd read all the success guruswho said you know, you just got
to keep working.
And da, da, da and nothingchanged.
And I would have a problem inmy life and I would use prenatal
re-imprinting to change theneurological format in my brain
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that produced that in my lifeexperience and bingo, it would
be gone in an instant, in aheartbeat, and I really started
making wonderful progress in mylife when I just did more and
more prenatal re-imprinting.
It has been, for me personallyand for many people, just an
absolute godsend.
Now here's one for you.
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I have a client who's asalesman.
Salesmen have to meet people.
When they meet people, theyhave to shake hands right.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Right.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
I said to him shake,
reach your hand out and shake
hands with me as if you'remeeting me as a new client.
He reached out and, as he did,I reached over and I anchored
his shoulder.
I said put your head down,enter the prenatal trance.
I fired off that anchor and Isaid what's going on?
He said my mother is upset withmy father.
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He's going away and she doesn'twant to be bothered with
anybody.
She doesn't want to meet anynew people, she doesn't want
anything in her life, she's justconcentrating and preoccupied
with her own personal worries.
I said well, what does that dofor you?
He said it makes me reluctantto go and meet people.
We changed the pattern andguess what?
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reluctance to go and meet people, just went away and vaporized,
and that's a characteristic ofthe prenatal re-imprinting
technology.
It'll be something very subtle,it'll be with you all your life
.
You'll barely notice it.
And then, when you get strongto your attention, you go oh
yeah, of course that makesperfect sense.
And then we change the patternand bingo, that person in that
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category is free to be more ofthe optimal human experience or
have more of the optimal humanexperience.
Is this making more and moresense as we do these patterns?
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Well, and I've, since
I've known you for such a good
while, I've seen in other peopleand experience personally so
many of these unbelievabletransformations.
I remember now I wasn't in theroom for the session but one of
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my clients sent her son for asession with you.
She thought I told her aboutyou and she said oh, I want to
send my son.
And he came in and he hadtattoos everywhere and it was
big hulking guy and one of thosespike, you know, like dog
collar necklaces on and leather.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, rememberthat, did you remember it?
(27:07):
Yeah, I remember.
Yeah, well, talk about thatreal quick, we've got a couple
months left.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Well, I mean, he came
in and he was, you know, just
right out of you know Hell'sAngels, and he was all tatted up
and bearded and I went okay,what's your problem?
Speaker 2 (27:23):
And he said so and so
, and the end result was the
part to me that was mind blowing, because this guy he was, you
know, I didn't mean him, Ididn't really know him, but he,
if he was going for a look ofbeing a terrifying human being,
he had succeeded.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
He had it.
He had it in spades.
In the end he came up and gaveme a big hug and I just I didn't
know what he was like.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
He said okay, if I
hug you, you know like, okay,
okay, I guess.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Well, our tools for
the optimal human experience are
just, I mean, they're justwonderful.
I enjoy, I've enjoyed them foryears and years and now we're
sharing them on a larger basis,a larger format.
So you are, people are, you'rewelcome to experience this
technology and for me, thehappiest thing I can do
professionally is help someonebegin to experience this.
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I mean, I'm doing somethingbetter.
Let's just go to work.
What is your view on sexorganization?
Do you usually want to work onit?
I'm just going to to work on it.
How do you do it?
Speaker 2 (28:25):
the optimal human
experience, and it's for all and
that's it for episode 9 of theoptimal human experience podcast
with Dr Joseph DiRuzzo.
Come back and listen next time.
In the meantime, go visitOptimalHumanExperiencecom.
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Speaker 1 (28:52):
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Speaker 2 (29:11):
Yeah, I remember you
telling me about that.
You're like the end of thesession and the guys like is it
okay and you know what With him.
Also, his mother was one of myclients and so I had a meeting
with her afterwards and sheconfirmed whatever you guys, I
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don't remember what it was.
What I remember was oh, here'sanother one.
She confirmed what came up inhis session Happened while she
was pregnant with him.
The prenatal memory Exactly andyou got a hug out of the deal
from the scariest guy I've seenin a while.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Yeah from Charles
Manson, his brother-in-law.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Yeah, his bodyguard.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
So I mean, have you
ever seen any of this material
fail when it consistentlyapplied?
Speaker 2 (30:05):
No no.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
That's amazing.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Yeah, I keep looking
for it.