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December 20, 2023 33 mins

Embark on an enlightening quest to decode the signals our bodies are sending as Dr Joe converses with Glenn W Fern about the wisdom of Traditional Chinese Medicine and Oriental Diagnosis. We'll unravel the complex tapestry linking the food on our plates to the vitality within us, all through the lens of Bo Shinjutsu—the art of visual diagnosis. By understanding the tell-tale signs of dietary missteps etched on our faces and bodies, Dr Joe reveals how simple changes can have profound impacts on our health, potentially steering us away from the modern scourge of degenerative diseases. Laugh along with Dr Joe and Glenn as they recount the lighter side of digestive health and the unexpected joys of herbal remedies, while recognizing the critical importance of gut health and regularity for a life brimming with energy.

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
This is the Optimal Human Experience Podcast with Dr
Joseph DiRuzzo.
To learn more, visitOptimalHumanExperiencecom.
And now.
Dr Joseph DiRuzzo and theOptimal Human Experience Podcast
.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hey there everybody.
In this special episode of theOptimal Human Experience Podcast
, Dr Joe sits down with Glenn WFern and discusses Oriental
Diagnosis.
Enjoy.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Hey everybody, this is me again.
I have Dr Joe with me heretoday and we're talking about
some more Optimal HumanExperience, so this guy is
really quite brilliant.
Hopefully we can touch on allthe stuff we talked about today.
Anyways, he is going to talkabout Oriental Diagnosis, and so

(01:12):
why don't you take it away?

Speaker 4 (01:13):
Joe Well, glenn Fern, my privilege and pleasure to be
back here with you.
I just ate a large cupcake fullof sugar and white flour, so
I'm well qualified to talk abouthealth problems in America
these days.
Way back in 1973-74, 75,richard Nixon went to China and

(01:39):
he did some trade things.
When he came back he broughtsome doctors of TCM, traditional
Chinese Medicine, and I was inchiropractic college at the time
and when we were introduced totraditional Chinese medicine it
was as if they had shown a lightin a dark room.
And there are four differentkinds of diagnosis in

(02:03):
traditional Chinese medicine.
But my favorite is Bo Shinjutsu,where you're diagnosed by
visual observation and it allmakes perfect, intuitive good
sense.
When you see a person who liveson mashed potatoes and biscuits
made out of white flour, it'sno stretch of the imagination to

(02:25):
think that they probably have alittle problem with their bowel
.
They have a little constipationgoing on and when you look at
the mouth, it's the opening ofthe digestive tube and the lower
lip reflects the lowerdigestive system.
And if it's swollen and bluefrom venous blood with not much

(02:46):
oxygen in it, it's not hard tothink well, this person probably
has a little problem with theircolon.
Now I remember when I was takingmy board examination in New
York City for licensure as achiropractic physician in the
state of New York.
I went to New York City, I goton the train and I went into
shock because everybody had aswollen nose, they had lower

(03:09):
lips sticking out, they hadlines in their faces and I had
never noticed it before.
Wow, I had never noticed and Iwas looked with horror and I
realized just how ill as asociety we had become.
And the Oriental doctors backthen said boy, we're going to
pay a terrible price forneglecting our health,

(03:32):
neglecting at least a littleharmony with nature, eating too
much refined foods, too muchsugar, too much white flour,
things like that.
Ultimately, the number ofpeople with cancer and diabetes
and arthritis and all of thesevarious degenerative diseases is
really through the roof.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
Yeah, you know.
I mean we do have an epidemicof all sorts of these kinds of
diseases today and some peoplesay that cancer is a virus, you
know, and it could be, I don'tknow.
I don't know that much about it, but I know that I have always
been into.
If I have bread, I like themulti grain bread, the 21

(04:12):
separate grains, the wholekernels, you know, that's just.
It just tastes better to me.
I can't stand white bread,although sometimes when you buy
something like some rolls orsomething, I mean it's going to
be white flour.
But I certainly am not in thehabit of eating a lot of that
stuff and I try and keep thingsmoving nice and smoothly, you

(04:35):
know, as in going to thebathroom and I don't.
If I get constipation orsomething like that, you know I
do everything they can toprevent that kind of thing from
happening.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
I was going to patent an herbal based laxative and I
was going to make it, have itmade up into tablets and I was
going to call it blasting caps.
And I was going to have a freeseat belt that you could bolt
down on either side of thetoilet.
Take blasting caps and never beconstipated.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
You'll never have trouble with that.
Sounds like that Dr Schultz'sdigestive formula number one.
I'll tell you.
What he says is like he sayswhen everybody talks to anybody,
he says the first thing he asksthem is when's the last time
you had a bowel movement?
And sometimes he says it'samazing how many times people

(05:32):
will say it.
Three months or something likethat.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
Does he say hello first, does he introduce himself
, or does he just walk up topeople and say when's the last
time you had a bowel?

Speaker 3 (05:42):
movement, I don't know.
That's when he's visiting themas a patient, I suppose.
So I'm sure there's a littlebit of introduction there and
everything.

Speaker 4 (05:52):
At the turn of the last century around 1900, if the
medical schools had somebodywho came in with cancer, they
showed all of the interns Ialmost said inmates they showed
all of the interns because itwas so rare that they said you
might not ever see anotherperson with cancer like this

(06:16):
again.
How different are things today?
Oh man, no joke.
So you see, one of the bigthings is transit time From the
time when you eat something tothe time where you go to the
toilet and get rid of that waste.
It should be 24 hours or less.
Really that quick, oh, yeah,wow.
And you see, people, you allsay when's the last time you had

(06:38):
a bowel movement?
And it's been ages.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
Yeah, yeah, like three months, and Dr Schultz
gives him this digestive formulaand I take this regularly.
But what he says is you take itthe first day, you take one,
and if you don't have a bowelmovement, the second day, you
take two, and if you don't havea bowel movement, the third day,
you take three.
And he said you just keep doingthat and eventually you're
going to have a bowel movement.
And I got to tell you that Itake two a day.

(07:05):
I take one in the morning andone in the afternoon, and when
it's time to go, it's likeblasting caps, like you're
saying, okay, it's like I betterbe near a toilet because it's
going to be running down my legif I don't go.

Speaker 4 (07:19):
It's time to go.
Yeah that's right.
You know the transit time andone of the things that I said.
People have a problem with amalabsorption syndrome.
They'll eat stuff and they'vehad so much gunk in their
intestines for so long andthere's so much mucus that they
could be eating good food orthey could be taking vitamins

(07:40):
and they have a bit of amalabsorption syndrome and the
nutrition doesn't get properlyabsorbed.
So from time to time people doa colonic irrigation or a
colonic can or an intestinalliver bone bladder cleanse.
I highly recommend those.
Those are good for you.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
I went and when I was in my twenties I went to see
this naturopathic doctor justbecause I wanted to.
I didn't really feel unhealthyor anything.
But I went to see this guy inEdmonton and he was like in his
eighties, he had a walker andwhen he came to see me and he
did reflexology on my foot andthere was one spot on my foot

(08:22):
that you know I mean it was likeouch, that hurts, you know.
And he told me I had gallstonesand they put me on this diet
for two weeks.
I had to fast for a couple ofdays and then I came not for two
weeks, it was for a week andevery day I had to go into their
office and they gave me thisolive oil and lemon oil, olive

(08:46):
oil and lemon oil and it was thenastiest stuff that you know.
When you start eating thatthat's the only thing you have
and you get this big oldtablespoon and you know two or
three of them every 20 minutes.
You know that kind of thing andyou know it's enough.
But you know, at night, when Iwent home that day, it was like
I had a little.
It wasn't.
I could feel something likeright here is my gallbladder,

(09:08):
and every once in a while I likeouch, ouch, ouch, ouch, and so
every once in a while, at night,when I went to the bathroom the
next time, it was amazing howall these these stones were

(09:30):
coming out of there.
And you know, so it was.
It was quite amazing.

Speaker 4 (09:37):
The combination of lemon juice and olive oil is an
old gallbladder cleanse.
I've done it.
I do not particularly likedoing it, but I like how I feel
afterwards.
Absolutely for sure it cleansout the pipes and you get a
whole new outlook on life.
It makes a big difference, butyou have to be careful and read

(09:59):
up on it and pay attention,because your gallbladder is very
important.
If you don't have propergallbladder function, you're
going to have problems withdigestion of fat soluble
vitamins vitamin A and D and Eand those are absolutely
critical.
By the way, what's thepercentage of cardiologists that

(10:19):
take vitamin E, which is cardioprotective?

Speaker 3 (10:23):
Probably very few.
I mean, most doctors don'treally do much about vitamins.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
Oddly enough, 87% of cardiologists take vitamin E
themselves.
Oh, really.
So, according to one study, howmany recommend them to their
patient?
Oh, that's a good question 13%,wow.
So they know what's good, and Ithink what's good for the goose
is good for the gander.
But in medicine, you know, ithas to have a dollar bottom line

(10:50):
, dollar amount.
Yeah, there's no money to bemade in that kind of stuff.
There's no money to be made inthat.
You know of all the bizarrethings.
Approximately 100,000 peopledie every year from properly
prescribed pharmaceuticals by aproperly licensed medical doctor
.
And if you were to ask themedical board what's the

(11:10):
greatest danger to the publichealth, they'd, without question
they'd say naturopathic doctors.
You know, they're out thereyeah what up.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
What a joke.
Well, you know my attitude isis that you know the medical
profession has its place.
You know, if you get run overby a truck and you need somebody
to have a set your bones andstitch up, stitch up and put you
back together, I mean, I don'tknow anybody that can do it
better than like the medicalprofession.
But but people go to thesemedical doctors for things that

(11:40):
that that they ought to reallyconsider, like a chiropractor or
a nature path or something likefor issues like that that.
You know what I mean, thatbecause the medical doctors, you
know they, they, they want tosell their pharmaceuticals and
and and sometimes, sometimes youhave to do that.
But but Sometimes you knowthat's that's.

(12:02):
There's other things that workway better.

Speaker 4 (12:05):
Well, you know, the interesting thing about medical
doctors was when chiropracticcame out 1895 era, osteopathy
came out just about the sametime and many medical doctors
jumped ship and becamechiropractors and osteopaths
because, matt, modern medicinereally did not have all that

(12:28):
much to offer until the era ofWorld War two, 1945.
Penicillin.
Penicillin was such a profoundAdjunct to medical care that
people lost all perspective andthey began to think you could.
You could fix anything,including a flat tire, with a
proper amount of, you know,pharmaceuticals.

(12:49):
Yeah it's just not that way.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
Well, and isn't penicillin basically bread mold?

Speaker 4 (12:56):
is bread mold and it's the crystalline Exudate of
the mold and the way it wasdiscovered.
Alexander fling Fleming Lookedat some mold and he saw all
around the mold no other marketmicroorganisms were growing.
There was a zone around themold and he looked at.

(13:17):
He said, well, there must besomething there that's
preventing other microorganismsfrom growing.
And he cultured bread mold andeventually purified penicillin.
Penicillin was so rare that ifthey gave it to a soldier and it
saved his life, they wouldcollect his urine and with
tweezers they would go throughthe urine dried urine and they

(13:39):
would collect the littlecrystals of penicillin and use
them again.
Really, oh, it was a truebreakthrough and it was a
wonderful breakthrough, but atthe same time it was misleading,
because the the generalizationwas made that anything can be
fixed with the Right, with theproper drugs, and that's that's

(13:59):
just not true.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
Yeah, I'm in the alternative remedies.
You know I like herbs and stuffand I and I Dr Schultz is, I
love that Dr Schultz is.
He's got some really, reallypowerful formulas that that
really work well and and and.
So you know, like I have thatcayenne right there, the cayenne
tincture that I use all thetime and so.

(14:20):
But you know, there's nothingbetter than doing your own
research and and finding outalternative remedies.
You told me earlier today thatyou used to, you used to teach
speed reading and and and and.
So this, this book, that thisthing is taken from.
I mean he said that he readthat in about 15 minutes and and

(14:42):
it's quite a large book.

Speaker 4 (14:43):
Okay, you know I had taught speed reading when I took
the course Evelyn Wood readingdynamics and JFK Kennedy took
that course and it became publicknowledge.
And the next thing, you know,everybody wanted to learn speed
reading and I was one of theyoungest instructors.
And, and you know, theimportant thing is to be able,

(15:03):
if you have highly technicalmaterial, to be able to slow
down for absorption and if youhave light you know, a novel or
something like that to go fasterto, to vary your speed
According to the difficulty ofthe subject matter.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
Mmm, yeah, I could see that, because some stuff is
just dry and and it's and it'shard to let it sink in.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
Yeah, yeah, it is.
But getting back to the, thehealth aspect, I, if you want to
have some fun, go to doc, to goto a dinner where there are a
lot of doctors and notice howsickly they look.
Oh yeah, they look terrible.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
Yeah, and and I was looking at this, this, this
chart here, this Like these bagsunder your eyes and stuff like
that you know I use.
It's amazing how many peopleyou see with bags under their
eyes.
They say that's from lack ofsleep, but obviously it's more
than just lack of sleep then,isn't it?

Speaker 4 (15:59):
Well, there's a correlation when you are not
sleeping In characteristicleader upright, and if you're
upright, your kidneys are notreceiving the circulation that
they would if you were layingprone.
Oh, really, and so and so yousee the circles under the eyes
and they reflect kidney function.
But of course they also reflectstaying up, because when you
stay up you're standing up oryou're sitting up right.

(16:20):
So if you examine closely the,the, the diagnosis, the Chinese
diagnosis is like 95% accurate.
Every time I think that Chinesediagnosis is not accurate.
Guess what it's me?
I mean, I'm making a mistake.
They're right on the money,they were right, but you're
reading it wrong.
They were right and I wasreading it wrong.

(16:42):
I found that the way.
You know, I started studyingthis in 1973.
Wow, so that's 50 years?
Wow, and for 50 years I foundthem to be just absolutely
remarkably accurate.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
Yeah, well it's.
It's encouraging.
I don't really have any ofthose issues that you're talking
about there, but it's amazinghow you do notice those things
and other people, though, forsure.

Speaker 4 (17:04):
Oh, absolutely, and you can tell when somebody's
healthy and you can tell whenthey're really not, not, not
well, right, there was anotherone here that I wanted to show
everybody.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
I'm just trying to think of where it is.
Oh, it's right here.
This is an email that somebodysent me talking about people
texting and how their neck itcauses their posture.
It affects their posture andthat can certainly affect you,
and it can cause all sorts ofissues.

(17:39):
Like it says here, it can causeasthma, allergies, high blood
pressure, multiple sclerosis.
I know you know, is thatsomething or what?
Do you have anything that you'dlike to make comments?

Speaker 4 (17:53):
about Fascinating.
Not six weeks ago I had noticedhow many people have.
They're starting to develop adowager's hump, you know, like a
hump right at the top of theirshoulders, because they're
leaning forward, texting orwriting or on their telephone
all the time.
And I mentioned it to my sisterwho had that, and I told her

(18:13):
that I was starting to practicethe ancient Japanese art of
kendo, where they take the swordand they hold it with two hands
oh, I've seen you doing thatand they raise it up and then
they bring it down.
And they raise it up and theybring it down.
Well, that sword is prettyheavy too.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
The sword is giving you some good exercise.

Speaker 4 (18:30):
Well, it stands you right up straight.
The next thing, I knew myposture was better.
Oh really, my balance wasbetter.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
And that sword's pretty heavy.
Oh yeah, that thing's got aweight, probably a bit of 10
pounds it's quite heavy.

Speaker 4 (18:43):
it really is, yeah.
So I told my sister about it.
She's a nurse practitioner.
She said I'm going to practice.
She looked around her house andshe couldn't find anything to
use as a sword.
But she found a pool noodlePool noodle.
So I said all right, you haveto practice pool noodle kendo.
So she started and she said,yeah.
Two days later she said much ofthe pain and stress and

(19:05):
discomfort in her upper neck andshoulders had really resolved
itself.
So I recommend that people dosome kind of vigorous exercise
that is bilaterally symmetrical,left and right and back and
forth, and to bring that spine.
It's critical to have a spinethat's in alignment, absolutely
critical.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
Yeah Well, I don't do that much stuff on my phone,
you know, I do it on my computerand so I don't know that I
really have that kind of anissue, but I've seen it in other
people, Like some people havewhat do they call it?
Scoliosis?

Speaker 4 (19:41):
They have scoliosis.
Yeah, the saying is as let backas it's crooked as a dog's hind
leg.
Yeah, that's scoliosis.
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
And some people it's not too obvious, but I've heard
that as they get older itbecomes more and more obvious.

Speaker 4 (19:58):
Well, as you age, the discs deteriorate and you lose
height and you get shorter.
Then you really start to haveproblems if you have scoliosis.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
Yeah, I know, and I have been.
I'm not sure that I'm gettingshorter.
I mean, I put mysister-in-law's homemade comfy
sav on my back whenever I havean issue and I can feel it
swelling up in there, you know.
So the discs seem to come backwith that stuff.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
But you can experience the optimal human
experience.
You do the best you can.
The Chinese say there's fivefactors that have to do with
health.
Number one is proper food.
Number two is proper exercise.
Number three is proper mentalattitude.
Oh, absolutely.
Number four is well what was itMental attitude, food, exercise

(20:52):
and getting an occasionalchiropractic adjustment or
acupuncture treatment or massageor shiatsu or something like
that.
That makes a big difference andit's really essential.
If you are stressed, like ourmodern day lifestyle is
stressful, go to a chiropractoror go to massage therapist and
say work the kinks out for me.
Yeah, you know it makes a bigdifference.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
You were telling me a story about your son earlier
today, about he had he had thiscancer because of stress and
because of oxidative stress hewas born with cancer.
Tell me that story again.
I think that is just brilliant.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
Well, it was back in the 1983, 1984 era when I was
reading books on free radicalpathology theory, and, as you
know, free radicals are quenchedby vitamins.
You have sulfoxide, hydroxyl,singlet, oxygen.
All these things circulatethrough your body.

(21:49):
Have you ever seen a hose on aradiator in a car?
Oh yeah, when they're old, doyou see how they're cracking?

Speaker 3 (21:57):
all that they get cracked.
Yeah, right in the break aftera while.

Speaker 4 (21:59):
That's free radical damage, and the same thing goes
on inside of your body, exceptyou have vitamins and things
that act as antioxidants.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
That's interesting.
I never really thought of that.
I figured it was basically.
But yeah, you're right, itwould be free.
It's oxygen free.
Radical is a oxygen atom that'sfree and wants to combine with
something, and it combines withanything it can.
And so, yeah, that would befree radical damage.

(22:30):
You're right, I never thoughtof it that way.
But you're right, that'sexactly what it is.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
Well, when you apply free radicals to human tissue,
then you say there's freeradical pathology.
And you know how white bloodcells kill bacteria.
They put hydroxyl on them.
They put what do you call it?
Hydroxyl, hydroxyl, and itdissolves them.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
Oh, really yeah, so it's basically something that
attacks free radicals then Isthat?

Speaker 4 (23:01):
Well, your body uses a free radical solvent in order
to attack bacteria and kill them.
Oh, is that right?

Speaker 3 (23:06):
That's interesting.
So tell us about your son.
What happened?
He had this cancer and youstarted telling us about that.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
Well, he was, my wife and I weren't getting along and
there was a lot of stress.
And with stress there comesadrenal hormones and adrenal
hormones are extremelypro-oxidative.
They cause oxidation and he wasborn with something called
histiocytosis X, which is a formof immune disease.
And I thought, you know, he'snot going to make it.

(23:39):
And so most people die likethat, don't they?
They, most of them do.
So I hit the books and with myreading skills I studied
everything I could.
I read everything I could inWestern medicine, Eastern
medicine, free radical pathologytheory, orthomolecular
psychiatry, you name it.
I studied it and overall I puttogether a formal model and I

(24:02):
said at the basis of everythingultimately is free radical
pathology.
And so I began feeding himlarge amounts of food with
antioxidants cooked carrots,vitamin C, lemons, oranges,
grapefruit and I gave him greensand things like that.
And I included some syntheticant, uh and accidents that you

(24:24):
won't run across di-loral firebut died by the appropriate
diopropionic acid, uh, mutilatedhydroxy anisol, mutilated
hydroxy toluene all of thesevery powerful synthetic and
accidents to quench freeradicals.
And I made his food and I'm inplenty of brown rice and good,

(24:46):
and I made sure he got some ofthe synthetic and accidents in
over the years he survived andhe did very well.
He became, he literally aworld-class athlete.
And years later his brother,who was in medical school in
second year, came to me and saiddad, my brother had hounds,
christian showers disease.
He had you know this horribledisease, but he survived.

(25:09):
What did you do?
And I said you're the onlyperson who recognize that I was
responsible for the year brothersurviving.
And I'd said it was freeradical pathology theory.
I applied it and the end resultwas he did extremely well.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
that's amazing, uh, and so, uh, yeah, that that is
amazing.
So that's again, uh, speedreading I'm sure came in handy
because, uh, you know, whenyou're, when you got a young
family, you, you you're prettybusy with taking care of the
kids and doing everything elsethat has to be done, and so, I.

Speaker 4 (25:44):
I start with a speed reading and I let my wife change
the diapers.
I told her I had something moreimportant to do?

Speaker 3 (25:51):
yeah, no doubt, uh, anyway.
So this is talking aboutsleeping posture and I can say
that, uh, and that I agree withthis a hundred percent.
You need a good pillow, but youneed to be in the right
position.
I think you'd just becomfortable, you know, and, and,
uh, and, uh, and, and it'llprobably take care of itself.

Speaker 4 (26:10):
but uh, and then this one here is talking about had
posture, and uh, and again, asbeing a chiropractor, you
probably would know a lot aboutthis when you, when you look at
the figure on the left, thatperson standing straight up the
earhole that you hear in isright over the tip of the

(26:30):
shoulder, is right over the tipof the hip.
That is excellent posture.
The it's significance of thatis, if you look at the person on
the right, can you see how,when they breathe, the movement
of their ribs would be impaired?

Speaker 3 (26:46):
yeah, really yeah.
They wouldn't be able to takein a real good deep breath,
would they can't?

Speaker 4 (26:49):
they can't take in a real full, deep breath, and they
were all.
They suffer from a relativehigh-poxy and not enough oxygen
and it's a stress becausethey're always trying to breathe
, trying to breathe, trying tobreathe.
Their skeletal structure isworking against them right

(27:10):
interesting so proper, properposture is very, very important,
very important.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
so this is doctor joe's website optimal human
experience.
Uh, and I would encouragepeople if they have any issues
that they're just concernedabout generalized health, I'm
sure that he would uh, you know,give them some tips, or I'll
bet you there's a lot of stuffon your website for generalized
health tips and things like thatI've got fourteen, I believe,

(27:38):
uh podcasts recorded or really,and I'm about to really go to
work recording things about uhserotonin.

Speaker 4 (27:46):
People have serotonin problems.
Serotonin is derived fromtryptophan.
That's the precursor.
Tryptophan is in grass-fed beef, but there's no tryptophan in
corn, which means that if youeat beef that is predominantly
corn-fed, you're not going tohave enough tryptophan and you
won't be able to produce enoughserotonin oh really so.

(28:07):
That's why the depression andall that stuff.
Well, you have, the entirecivilian population is
borderline depressed, if not outand out depressed.
I gave some grass-fed beef to aperson who was depressed.
Fifteen minutes later theywould look like you or I.
I was shocking wow, is there?

Speaker 3 (28:25):
is there visual evidence in their face or
anything like that?

Speaker 4 (28:29):
you know.
When people are, you know,healthy, they have a certain
pink glow about them and whenthey're not, they have a gray
kind of power.
You can tell when people areaging because they start looking
more and more gray and they geta deaffrentation phenomenon in
their brain.
Their brain doesn't work aswell.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
They start to get go into cognitive decline right,
you always hear about thesepeople who have dementia and
stuff well, I have a story aboutdementia what is it?

Speaker 4 (29:01):
a fellow brought me his wife one time and he said I
think my wife has dementia.
I want you to give her a full,thorough, complete and
exhaustive neurological exam.
So I said, alright, we'llexamine the cranial nerves and
everything you know.
So I examined all the cranialnerves and I went to him and I
said I can't find anything wrong.
He said what do you mean?
I said she's normal, all womenare like that.

(29:21):
And she didn't want to hearthat.
You know, I have to tell thetruth.
We're going to work withserotonin and I'm going to give
explicit instructions on how toimprove your serotonin.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
We're going to work with dopamine, which is involved
in motivation so these areupcoming podcasts you're going
to be putting up on your channel, on your on your website.
Now, these are not youtubevideos, are they?

Speaker 4 (29:54):
no, I don't believe so they're.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
They're going to be right on my on the optimal human
experience okay, okay, becausethat takes up a lot of memory
and requires bandwidth,especially if a lot of people
start watching those videos andstuff like that.
You know, that's why I likeusing youtube.
Of course, you have to bepolitically correct.
I don't think we've doneanything that's not politically
correct today.
But, uh, but you have to bepolitically correct or youtube

(30:19):
will take your videos down.
They've taken my channel downtwice.
Oh, I'm sure.
Yeah, yeah, you're, you'recontroversial.
Yeah, yeah, so, but, but so, um, at any rate, uh, so, uh, I've
been trying to talk joe into uhgetting a youtube channel going,
because then he could uploadmore podcasts, but in the
meanwhile, he does have them onhis website right here, podcasts

(30:42):
and videos, and so I wouldrecommend you check them out
because I think you'll find themenlightening.
And uh, some really good, youknow, basic common sense ideas
on on what you can do to improveyour health.
And to you gotta just thinkoutside the box and and and do
your own research and and, uh, I, I always do my own research

(31:07):
and I have people like contactthat if I have any questions.
But uh, uh, is there anythingelse you'd?

Speaker 4 (31:13):
like to say, joe, I absolutely guarantee you, if you
get a little information on howto improve your serotonin
levels, your epinephrine doornorth and effort dope mean
oxytocin all these things aregoing to make a profound
improving in your at life andhelp, and my goal is to help
everyone experience the all.

(31:33):
Yes to more human experience,optimal human experience and
it's all natural.
That's what I like to work with.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
You know, I've always had the idea that you create
your own reality, and so ifthings are real dreary, I mean
it's hard to be optimist, andwhen things are, but I don't
know that I really do anythingthat improves my serotonin.

(32:01):
But I'm into like I use.
I take vitamins.
I have packets of vitamins.
Joe sees them here next to mylaptop.

Speaker 4 (32:11):
The desk is strewn with nutritional supplementation
.
You don't do much to no, no,that's right.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
I do quite a bit of that, and so You're pretty
cheerful most of the time.
Oh, yeah, sure, I don't noticethat.
I don't consider myselfdepressed at all, if anything, I
just get mad Right right.

Speaker 4 (32:31):
Oh, I've never seen you happier than when you're
writing your legal documentswith the expectation that
they'll cause this consternation, and when they're received.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
There you go and there's nothing like a good
belly laugh.
You know I mean that just isfood for the soul.
You know is just to have a.
And when Joe sometimes hecracks his jokes and stuff like
that, that just gets me going.
I'll tell you.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
Well, you know why Jewish people never get cancer?
No, why?
Well, because they're allacidic.
Hasidic, you have to have acertain alkaline base, but
they're all acidic.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
Hasidic though right.

Speaker 4 (33:12):
So God bless America.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
All right.
Well, thanks for watchingeverybody and check out Joe's
website and if you have anycomments or something, I can
pass them on to him.
Anyways, take care and thanksfor watching.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
This has been the Optimal Human Experience Podcast
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