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July 29, 2025 46 mins

In this episode of Organized Chaos, I sit down with Mike White, a seasoned HR executive turned founder of Secchi, an innovative employee relationship management platform.

Drawing from two decades of experience in major corporations like Caterpillar and Master Lock, Mike shares his journey and the insights that led him to tackle the pressing challenges of employee engagement and retention in the manufacturing sector.

Key Topics:

  • The Genesis of Secchi: Mike discusses his 20-year career in HR within factory settings, where he consistently observed the immense pressure and administrative burden placed on frontline leaders. Inspired by the need for a simpler, more effective way to manage workforce dynamics, he created Secchi. The name is inspired by the "Secchi disk," a tool used to measure water clarity, symbolizing the platform's mission to bring transparency to employee relations.
  • From Corporate Leader to Startup Founder: The transition from a stable corporate role to the unpredictable world of startups was filled with surprises. Mike candidly shares the challenges he faced, including the unexpected risk aversion he encountered among fellow HR professionals and the steep learning curve of entrepreneurship. He contrasts the corporate world's reward for perfection with the startup's imperative to act quickly, learn, and iterate.
  • The True Cost of a "Bad Apple": Mike delves into the critical importance of addressing underperforming or toxic employees. He argues that the common philosophy of "we just need someone" is detrimental to a healthy work environment and ultimately drives away top talent. Citing a powerful case study, he demonstrates how removing just a few negative influences led to a significant increase in productivity and a substantial reduction in costs for one of his clients, illustrating the principle of "addition by subtraction."
  • Data-Driven HR: A recurring theme is the necessity of moving beyond anecdotal evidence and gut feelings in HR. Mike emphasizes that while factors like pay and training are important, the core driver of employee retention is the relationship between a leader and their team members. Secchi is designed to provide clear, actionable data on these interactions, enabling organizations to make informed decisions that genuinely improve the workplace.
  • Advice for Aspiring Founders: For those considering the entrepreneurial path, Mike offers practical advice: validate your business idea thoroughly, be prepared to consume vast amounts of information, and don't be afraid to be shameless in promoting your vision. He speaks to the immense personal and financial risks involved but underscores the profound sense of purpose that comes from building something you believe in.

This conversation offers a masterclass in the realities of building a business from the ground up, the nuances of effective workforce management, and the critical need for data-driven strategies in today's competitive landscape.

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