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#281 - Have you ever felt like you don't belong in the room with high achievers? This is a coaching session with Tricia, an advanced life and performance coach, will resonate with anyone who's struggled with imposter syndrome. Tricia bravely shares her recent experience of feeling out of place in a meeting with top professionals at a nonprofit organization. I provide thoughtful guidance on navigating these emotions, helping Tricia reflect on her value and contributions even amidst initial panic and self-doubt.

Learn strategies to enhance your professional confidence, especially when stepping into intimidating environments. We explore how shifting your mindset from self-doubt to empowering thoughts, such as asking, "How can I change somebody's life?", can make a significant difference. The discussion highlights the balance between self-doubt and confidence, and the power of showing up with energy and readiness to contribute meaningfully to a group's goals.

Learn how small shifts in mindset can transform your professional presence. By recognizing past experiences and skills as valuable assets, you can align your actions with your desired outcomes. This episode is a testament to the transformative power of aligning your story with your actions to create a more fulfilling professional journey.


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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Hey, my name is Teresa Hildebrand and this is
Organized Chaos.
We take a deep dive into livingwith intentionality, focusing
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It may feel chaotic at times,but with a little organization,
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Join me as we talk to otherbusy moms and experts who will

(00:31):
share tips and strategies tohelp you reach your goals.
Hope you enjoy this episode ofOrganized Chaos.
Now on to the show.
Hey friends, welcome to anotherepisode of Organized Chaos.
So today I'm actually sharing acoaching session I did in Modern
Leadership, which is a YouTubechannel I co-host with my

(00:52):
husband, and every now and thenwe will do live coaching
sessions, and I wanted to sharethis particular one with you
because she's struggling likenot being expert enough.
Those were her words, and thisis really kind of related around
imposter syndrome, so feelinguncomfortable being in a room

(01:15):
where you feel like you don'tbelong.
So I think that many of us canrelate to this.
So I wanted to share how Iactually coached her through
this a little bit and kind ofgive her the ability to see this
from a different perspective.
So, without further ado.
Here is my coaching sessionwith Tricia.
Tricia, thank you so much forbeing here.
Thank you for inviting me, ofcourse.

(01:38):
So, if you guys are listeningto the Modern Leadership podcast
or you're here with us watchingus on the Modern Leadership
YouTube channel, we do livecoaching sessions with our inner
circle members occasionally andit's a really great way for you
to kind of see us in action.
But also maybe this willresonate with you maybe you're

(02:01):
going through something similarand you want to see, like, how
we can kind of work through someof these struggles so that we
can move forward and, like,really take action.
So today, tricia is going tolet us know, like what it is
that she's struggling with andsee how we can navigate through

(02:22):
this particular topic.
So we did talk a little bitbefore we went live.
But, tricia, can you set thisup?
Tell us what it is that youwant to work through today?

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yes, thank you.
This is something that's comeup at various levels within my
journey as an entrepreneur isnot feeling expert enough, like
not feeling like, or maybe thatI've stepped into a room that's
a whole lot too big sometimesand you know, I haven't had it
happen for a while, but it didhappen again for me last weekend

(02:56):
, okay, so tell me more aboutthat.
So I there's a local nonprofitthat I wanted to sign up to
volunteer for and get acquaintedwith, and it took a little
longer than expected, but we hada meeting last weekend and I
wanted to join their mentorshipcommittee.

(03:16):
Being an advanced life andperformance coach and being
somebody that volunteerism hasalways been a key for me, this
was a great fit and I wasexcited.
I went to a meet and greet theyhad, and so we have this first
meeting last Sunday morning andI am in the room with some
pretty high-end professionalsand on my entrepreneurial

(03:36):
journey, I feel like I'm at thebeginning of it.
This is new to me and we'regoing in the right direction.
But I step into this room andI'm going.
I am like I just had that.
I'm the low man on the totempole.
I've got the least amount ofexperience.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
Do I have enough to bring to the table.
So let's kind of work throughthat a little bit.
So last weekend you went tothis nonprofit meeting and
you've been wanting to join thiscommittee, right, this

(04:13):
mentorship committee, and youwalk into the room and you see
that there's all these high-endprofessionals and you think do I
have enough?
Do you have enough to what?

Speaker 2 (04:22):
To offer them and helping them create this
mentorship program.
It's a local city women'sempowerment group and we're
putting together a you knowsix-month to 12-month mentorship
course for you know women tolearn how to become a better

(04:43):
entrepreneur or to just gain youknow professional, more
professionalism and, you know,go up the ranks in their jobs
and what they want to do andaccomplish in life.
It's a, you know, I feel likeit's a very important task.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
Yeah, so when you think about that, when you think
you're in this space, where youfeel like, like you said,
you're at the bottom of thetotem pole and you feel like you
don't have enough experience.
You say do I have enough tooffer them?
How does that make you feel?

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Very nervous and scared at times.
You know, can I, can I reallybring enough?

Speaker 1 (05:30):
But in that moment last week, when you were at this
meeting, panic.
So you felt panicked, okay soyou're thinking do I have enough
to offer them?
Right, You're in this new spaceand you felt panic.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
What did you do when you felt panic?
I probably didn't offer up someenough suggestions of what I
thought of, because we were justkind of brainstorming ideas of
you know what things we wouldwant in this mentorship for
people.
I didn't bring a whole lot ofsuggestions, um, but you know it

(06:15):
is a brainstorming thing andwe're coming back together in
two weeks and you know I I kindof shared my experience, what I
had and in in gave mentorship.
You know, like in mentorshipprograms, I've had what I've
liked in it and what I haven'tliked in it and things that I
think should be offered, but Ijust didn't feel they were.
Not that they weren'twell-received they were, but I
just felt that they weren'tthere was enough meat to them, I

(06:37):
guess.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
There was enough meat .

Speaker 2 (06:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
Like was there enough ?

Speaker 2 (06:43):
substance.
Yeah, that's the word I waslooking for okay, so.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
So you said you did give membership or mentorship.
Sorry, um, but what was theenergy like?

Speaker 2 (06:54):
the energy was very good.
Um, okay, I think I tried to,you know, stand with confidence
in the room.
You know I do, I know I havethings to offer.
But is it enough for this levelof professional mentorship?
I guess is where I questionedmyself.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
Okay, so what else did you?
Uh, did you do when you werefeeling panicked?

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Um, um, I stayed in the room, you know, I said I'd
be back for the next meeting and, um, I just took a breath and I
thought, you know I can do this.
You know, I tried to kind ofcheerlead myself a little bit,
um, and I gave them a couplesuggestions as to what to they

(07:44):
could put out maybe in theirmarketing, to ask people what
they would want to bring.
I was pretty proud of myself inthat moment, you know, like
maybe I don't have, you know,every answer, but at least I
thought I put out a good, youknow, suggestion, like let's ask
the people that are here in theroom or following us on social
that what do they want?
You know, so that was probablymy highlight of the conversation

(08:07):
.
But and then I thought tomyself okay, how am I going to
do this?

Speaker 1 (08:13):
Okay, so what didn't you do when you were in kind of
like this state?

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Um, I probably could have offered some things that I
felt would have been a goodaddition at that point and not
wait until the next meeting tosee what others bring to the
table too, and maybe I couldhave given suggestions of
different ways that I havementored in the past.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
And what were some other thoughts that were popping
up in that moment.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
I really had this.
Did I bite off more than I canchew?
Feeling thought Um.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Like you know, I know that I need to step into rooms
that I feel uncomfortable with,but I think at that moment I
thought maybe I took too big ofa leap.
Okay, so let me kind of walkyou through this again, yep, and

(09:18):
for those listening or watching, just so that you can kind of
see the process, that thoughtprocess that happens from like
thought to feeling to action.
So last weekend you had thismeeting for a nonprofit it was
for the mentorship committee andyou said you know, the room is
full of high end professionalsand your story was do I have

(09:39):
enough to offer them?
Thought that you felt panic andsome of the things that you did
were you, you did givementorship and you did feel good
about some of the things thatyou were saying, but you still
kind of hesitated and you didn'toffer enough suggestions

(10:01):
because you you had probablymany, but you you maybe kept
yourself from doing that.
There was kind of like it seemslike this back and forth between
I don't know if I'm kind ofgood enough, but also, hey, I
got all of these greatsuggestions that I can and I can
do this.
So there was kind of this backand forth, and that kind of
happens when you are a lifecoach as well.

(10:23):
So you kind of you know you goback and forth from you know
like head voice to heart voiceand back and forth, but you felt
like you still could haveoffered more suggestions and you
could have kind of showed themthat you do have some type of
experience in mentoring.
You also thought, you know,other thoughts will pop up into

(10:43):
our head when you know thishappens, where you thought did I
bite off more than I could chew?
Maybe I took too big of a leap?
So with all of this, what doyou think you are manifesting?

Speaker 2 (10:59):
I'm creating, that I'm not going to show up with
confidence, that I'm going tosit in, that I'm taking a
backseat to it, that I feel likeI don't have enough to offer.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Yeah, like you're not showing up with confidence.
Because when you're not showingup with confidence, that's
basically what your story isYou're, you're, you're, you're
thinking, well, do I have enoughto offer them?
You're kind of you know,there's, there's self doubt
popping up, right.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
And yes.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
So, tricia, I know you and I know you have so much
to offer, and it's just aboutreally focusing on what you do
have to offer.
And, of course, everybody's ata different level and I I know
for a fact that you know when,when it's us, we think we're
kind of down here, but inreality we're not, and it's just

(11:53):
about really focusing on well,how do I want to show up?
Maybe I feel like I'm not atthe level of these high-end
professionals, but I'm learning,right, I'm learning how to get
there and how do I want to showup to these meetings so that I
can provide that feedback, I canprovide that expertise that I

(12:19):
know you do have right.
It's just about really elevating, like a really positive and
empowering thought, so that youcan show up the best way you can
, because that's all we can do,right, is show up the best way
we can.
We're still learning.
However.
You have so much to offer,right?

(12:40):
So how do we?
You know, how do we get you tothat space?
How do we get you to that space, that headspace, so that the
next time you go to thatcommittee meeting, you can
provide the expertise and, youknow, the mentorship that you
know you really have, and youknow it doesn't matter how they

(13:01):
take it or if they take it, butat least you know that you
showed up, right?
So let's think about thisYou're going to go to another
meeting, right?
Yep, okay, so you're going togo to another meeting.
So the facts don't change, likethe fact is that last week you
went to a meeting and you'regoing to go to another meeting.
So that's not going to change.

(13:23):
However, we can change how youperceive this next encounter,
right?
So how do you want to show up?

Speaker 2 (13:34):
I want to show up with confidence and energy and,
you know, just really focus oncollaboration.
Like you, I firmly believe youcan do more as a team and being
able to show up in that levelstanding, just standing taller,

(13:55):
you know, just knowing feelingthat I have that confidence and
feeling that you know that this,you know where I may.
I'm going to learn stuff out ofthis.
You know, learn things out ofthis too, as much as I give
stuff out of this.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
You know, learn things out of this too.
As much as I give yeah, and andwhat does?
What is a thought that you canhave that will give you that
confidence and that energy andmake you feel like you're
standing up tall.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
I think for me it goes back to the impact that I
can make that you know, nomatter how small that impact is
or how big it is, my one of mycore values is to just make that
impact.
You know how can I changesomebody's life with these group

(14:45):
of women that I'm working with?

Speaker 1 (14:49):
with these group of women that I'm working with.
Yes, and you see how there's.
There was another questionthere.
So you started off with aquestion with your thought do I
have enough to offer them?
And now you have anotherquestion.
However, it's much moreempowering how can I change
somebody's life?
Right, Like that.

(15:09):
That is a question that youwant to go for right.
You want to really, really findout how you can do that.
So you said your thing isimpact, right, no matter how
small or how big that impact is,how can I change somebody's
life?
So, with that thought, how doesthat make you feel?
I feel excited.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
It brings me excitement and brings me joy.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
So when you're feeling excited, you're showing
up to these meetings.
What are you doing?

Speaker 2 (15:46):
You know I have a list of things that I think are
essential for that meeting.
I've done my, my assigned taskfor that, and then I'm ready to,
you know, really get down andand in the nitty gritty and
collaborate to, you know, makethis the best program possible
for local women.
What else?

(16:06):
And to learn, and else, and tolearn and what.
And to learn Like part of megetting into this was to also
learn.
You know, like I have a lot tooffer in it, things that I think
are essential, but I also willgain a lot of stuff from the
women that I get to work with.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Yeah, and what do you think you're going to stop
yourself from doing when you'reexcited and you want to jump in
and do things?

Speaker 2 (16:38):
I'm not going to hesitate, you know, I'm not
going to hesitate.
You know, like you said, youknow, even if it's you know, not
something that in the end wevote to keep, we all have the
suggestions out there so that wehave as many opportunities in
ways and avenues, paths, howeveryou want to say it, for these
women to excel and for us toexcel, leading them.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
And what do you think are some of the other thoughts
that you're going to have whenyou're in this state?

Speaker 2 (17:09):
Um, I think a lot of it would be how can I make it
better?
You know, even if it's asuggestion for myself from
somebody else, how can we makethis better together?
What can I contribute as myportion of this?

Speaker 1 (17:23):
So how can?

Speaker 2 (17:23):
I lead better.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
How can I lead better ?
That's a great question, andeven better is when you actually
make it a statement too.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
I can.
I can work with others to makethis better, right, yes, okay,
so let's go back to the top.
So you're at this meeting andyour, your new story is that you
want to make a bigger impact,no matter how big or small, and
how can I change someone's life?
And that makes you feel excited.

(18:00):
And then you start, you startdoing stuff, you start moving
right, you start making a listof the essential things, you are
ready to collaborate.
So your energy is high.
You want to make this the bestprogram and you also are there
to learn, not just to give, andyou don't hesitate.

(18:21):
You still give thosesuggestions.
They can take it or leave it,right, but you are going to
offer those suggestions.
And then you start to focus onhow can we make this program
better and how can you leadbetter.
So what do you think you'regoing to be manifesting from
that?

Speaker 2 (18:44):
That'll create for me confidence in walking into the
room with the ideas that I haveand how to use them to the best
of everybody's benefit.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
So not just yes, exactly.
So it's not just hey, I'm goingto be more confident, you're
truly going to help changesomeone's life.
Because, yes, you're going tomake that impact because you're
going to be devoted to this,you're going to be excited about
it and you're going to beparticipating in it.

(19:19):
So it's not going to be do.
I have enough to offer?
It's, I do have enough to offerand I'm going to put my best
foot forward into it Right.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yes, I love that.
I love how you just tweaked.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
It is and really it was tiny.
It truly is just little tweaks,right, that can make a huge
difference.
And I do have to say, Tricia,that when you first started and
you started to tell me well, Idon't know if I have enough to
offer and things like that, andI'm thinking back to not just
what's happening now, but yourwhole life prior to this.

(20:00):
You have so much to offer withyour life experience.
Maybe it doesn't feel like itright now because you're
stepping into something new andit feels scary.
Every time we step outside ofour comfort zone it's always
scary.
It doesn't matter how much lifewe've had, how many jobs we've

(20:21):
had, how many experiences we'vehad, what we've gone through,
sometimes it doesn't matter.
When we're in this really scaryplace, however, we just need to
stop and think sometimeslogically okay, I know, I have
experience.
Maybe it's not particularly inthis, but I venture to say that

(20:44):
you do have some experience withthis because it's mentorship
and you're a life coach as well.
You can offer that that I'mpretty sure a lot of people in
this group do not have, do nothave, and now they have a life
coach in their corner, in their,you know, in their in their

(21:07):
space, to collaborate and tokind of see things in a
different perspective that theywould.
They wouldn't be able to to do,you know, if you weren't in
that room.
So you know your you being inthis is going to make such a
huge difference and the thingsthat you're going to be doing
and the things you're going tobe offering, and you know all of

(21:28):
these skills that you've builtup until this moment.
Everything counts, everythingmatters, and you are going to
make such a huge difference, andI'm super excited for you Me
too.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
I really am, and I'm super excited for you Me too.
I really am Like this thing litme up, and then when I got in
the room I was like, oh wait,but you know, it is.
It's something that speaks tome.
That I'm, you know, very muchis in line with what I want to
do with my business and what Iwant to do outside that in the
world.
So I am super excited to dothis and thank you, this helped

(22:07):
so much.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
Yeah, I'm glad and you know, thank you for what you
do.
I mean, you know, not everybodyyou know is willing to
volunteer their time, theirskills, their energy to
nonprofits like this.
So you know what you're doingis going to make a huge
difference and you know, littleby little, you'll get in there

(22:28):
and you'll, you know, start tobuild up that confidence.
It's just about remindingyourself that you know you do
have enough to offer.
You have more than enough tooffer this organization and I
and I'm excited to see what,what comes out of it Me too-
Very much so Okay.

(22:49):
So how do you feel now?

Speaker 2 (22:52):
I feel very energetic about what I have to complete
by the next meeting.
Now it it.
You know you can tell yourselfthings, but believing in them
sometimes you know it takes thatjust change of the view, which
you know it really you can takethe same sentence and, like you
said, make it from a question toa statement and that that

(23:14):
little shift in your, the wayyou look at something, it makes
a difference.
So thank you very much.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Yeah, and it's really about repetition.
Like you said, sometimes it'shard to believe.
You know what you're trying to,you know how you're trying to
reframe that narrative and it'sjust about repeating it until

(23:44):
you believe it.
Right?
Because, just like how thatprocess I walk you through, of
what it is that you focus on andthe story that you tell
yourself leads to whateverfeeling that is, and then it
makes you take certain actions.
That repetition of focusing onthat story that you want to
believe, then that will lead youto take the actions that are

(24:05):
aligned with that.
So it's just about aligning,you know, with the actions that
you want.
So your story has to align withthe actions that you want and
what you truly want to manifest.
So it's just about practice and, yeah, I appreciate it.
That was a huge help.
Yeah, so it's just aboutpractice and, yeah, I appreciate
it.
That was a huge help, yeah, butyou know, thank you for being

(24:28):
here and sharing.
You know what you're goingthrough.
I know it's going to help a lotof people, at the very least,
become aware of how theirstories are, you know,
manifesting into something thatthey don't want, so that they
can make the switch and startcreating the things that they do
want.
So thank you so much for beinghere.
Tricia, absolutely.
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