Our Business Shenanigans
Where strategy meets sarcasm, and entrepreneurship gets real! Hosted by Jen Rodgers & Nicole Kalb, this podcast dives into the raw, unfiltered side of running a business—the wins, the failures, and the hilarious chaos in between. Whether you're scaling your company, navigating the latest marketing trends, or just trying to survive another Monday, we bring practical insights, candid conversations, and a whole lot of business mischief. Expect expert guests, real talk, and plenty of shenanigans along the way.
Episodes
Owning a business with your best friend: power duo or true crime documentary? 😅
Holly & Laura (Chores and More + Hustled Up Podcast) joined us to talk 50/50 splits, zero scorekeeping, leadership reality, and why Starbucks in-hand on Day 1 might be your sign from the universe.
Also… there’s an origin story in here that should probably come with a parental advisory. 🎧
CleanCon 2026 is not “just a conference.” It’s a movement.
We’re joined by Molly, Drew & Holly, the founders of CleanCon, to talk about what the residential cleaning industry has been missing—and why “no hype, no selling from stage” is non-negotiable.
📍 CleanCon 2026: March 16–18, 2026 | Indianapolis | The Conrad
Topics include marketing, sales, operations, leadership, and tech—built for cleaning business owners who want ...
We’ve been away because we’ve been growing.
In this episode, Jen + Nicole talk hiring, training, systems, and the mindset shifts that keep you from hiring out of desperation.
What we cover:
Busy season hiring chaos (Nicole was in the trenches)
Why in-house sales can boost relationships + retention
Training systems that streamline onboarding
The role of community + networking in business growth
Why investing in yourself changes eve...
Hiring a VA is supposed to buy back your time… but if you don’t have systems, clarity, and boundaries, it can turn into virtual chaos real quick.
In this episode of Our Business Shenanigans, Jen Rodgers and Nicole Kalb break down the real wins and painful lessons of working with remote team members — including red flags, agency vs. individual VA pros/cons, what you need in place before you hire, and when it’s time to bring a role ba...
Jen & Nicole are joined by Justin and Philip from Digital Anchor Media to pull back the curtain on marketing partnerships — the good, the bad, and the confusing.
They discuss how to:
✅ Vet agencies the smart way
🚩 Spot red flags early
💬 Understand contracts & communication
📊 Track ROI that actually matters
🧭 Navigate Google Business & Local Service Ads
If you’ve ever wondered where your marketing money ...
Clicks ≠ Clients.
In part 1 of this episode of Our Business Shenanigans, we’re calling out the shady side of digital marketing with guests Justin & Philip from Digital Anchor Media. They share how to spot vanity metrics, track real ROI, and finally understand if your ads are actually working. If your agency speaks in jargon but can’t show you real results — this one’s for you.
Listen now at ourbusinessshenanigans.com or wher...
💬 "It's okay to not be okay — just don’t stay there alone."
In this week’s raw and real episode of Our Business Shenanigans, Jen and Nicole sit down with Michelle Krueger from Brightside Services Inc. to talk about falling down… and finding the strength to get back up.
From burnout to breakthrough, this one’s for every entrepreneur navigating the hard days, the hidden struggles, and the healing. 💛
🎙️ Takeaways:
✔ I...
From passive-aggressive emails to full-blown entitlement meltdowns — business bullies are real. And guess what? You don’t have to tolerate them.
This week, Jen & Nicole are telling real stories (including that one time Nicole almost cancelled her wedding to avoid a client tantrum 🤯) and walking you through:
✔️ How to recognize subtle manipulation
✔️ How to respond without losing your cool
✔️ Why saying “no” is a power move, not a ...
Everyone wants a business that runs without them—but few are willing to build what that actually takes.
In this episode of Our Business Shenanigans, Jen & Nicole get real about:
The fantasy vs. reality of business freedom
Why duct-taping operations makes you the system
The actual foundation you need (team, SOPs, accountability)
How to stop being the bottleneck
Delayed gratification & the mindset that builds legacy
🔥 Inc...
Ever hired someone and immediately regretted it? 🙋♀️
Yeah… us too. But it doesn’t have to be that way.
This week on Our Business Shenanigans, we’re breaking down:
🔻 Why your hiring process might be the real problem
💣 Red flags that scream “RUN”
🎯 How to attract and screen the right people
📋 The trial period that actually protects your biz
💬 And of course… a few epic hiring fails you won't believe
👉 If you’re still hiring out of bur...
In this episode of Our Business Shenanigans, Jen and Nicole discuss the critical importance of employee policies in small businesses. They explore various aspects of policy implementation, including attendance, equipment management, communication with clients, and setting performance expectations. The conversation emphasizes the need for clear, specific policies to avoid chaos and ensure fairness among employees. The hosts share pe...
Policies aren’t about being mean—they’re about being smart. In this episode, Jen and Nicole dive deep into why client-facing policies are critical for protecting your team, your time, and your sanity. You’ll get stories, scripting, red flags, and real talk on how to create and communicate boundaries like a boss.
🎙️ Our Business Shenanigans – Episode 8
“Bookkeepers, Boundaries & Bottom Lines”
In this episode, we’re joined by special guest Jodi Shaw of JLS Solutions for a candid conversation about what business owners really need to know when hiring a bookkeeper or CFO.
We dive into:
✅ What to look for in a financial partner
🚩 Red flags to watch out for when hiring vendors
✅ Green flags that signal a solid, trustworthy fit
💬 Real-world shena...
Ever hired a bookkeeper, marketer, VA, or recruiter… only to end up confused, frustrated, and somehow blamed for their mistakes? That’s not you being too sensitive—that’s vendor gaslighting.
In this episode of Our Business Shenanigans, Jen and Nicole break down:
What vendor gaslighting looks like in real life
The red flags no one talks about
How to handle it when it starts
And how to protect your business (and sanity) going forward
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core values, business strategy, hiring, entrepreneurship, team culture, client relationships, leadership, decision making, company values, business insights
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In this episode of Our Business Shenanigans, hosts Jen and Nicole dive deep into the significance of core values in business. They discuss how core values serve as the foundation for decision-making, hiring, and team culture. Through personal anecdotes and real-life examp...
This week on Our Business Shenanigans, we’re flipping the script and talking about something that doesn’t get enough attention:
When staffing actually goes RIGHT. 🙌
In this episode, we dive into the good side of business—what happens when you hire the right people, build a strong team culture, and create a supportive environment where everyone thrives. 💬💼
We’re sharing personal stories, lessons learned, and real strategies that...
Let’s be real—running a business isn’t all wins and glowing reviews. In this episode, we’re opening up about the hard stuff: team walkouts, being called out on social media, and the gut-punch moments that made us question everything.We’re sharing the lessons we learned, what we’d do differently, and how we rebuilt stronger after it all.If you’re a business owner or manager navigating team dynamics, you’re not alone—and this one’s f...
Think calling someone a 1099 magically makes it legal? Think again. 😬
In this episode, we break down the real differences between subcontractors and employees—and why the IRS doesn't care if you “didn’t know.” We’re sharing the rules, the red flags, and the hard lessons we’ve learned from doing things the right way (and watching others do it oh-so-wrong).
Whether you’re hiring your first team member or cleaning up a classificati...
Are you maximizing your investments and resources?
Trigger warning: some people may find this one offensive
This podcast is for anyone running a business, thinking about starting one, or just here to hear about the absolute insanity that comes with entrepreneurship. Expect real talk, business wins and fails, marketing tips, hiring horror stories, and of course—plenty of shenanigans along the way.
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