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May 21, 2025 48 mins

Is water baptism is just a symbolic ritual or something more essential? This thought-provoking episode tackles the controversial question: "Do we really need to get baptized twice?" – revealing powerful biblical truths that many contemporary churches have overlooked or diluted.

Through a careful examination of Scripture, we uncover the inseparable relationship between water baptism and Spirit baptism. Beginning with the foundations of Paul's gospel message in 1 Corinthians 15 – that Christ died, was buried, and rose again – we trace how our response must mirror this three-part reality. Just as Jesus didn't merely die but was also buried and resurrected, our baptismal experience must encompass both water (taking part in His death and burial) and Spirit (living and walking by the indwelling Spirit).

The evidence builds as we journey through Scripture: from Jesus' own baptism "to fulfill all righteousness," to Peter's Pentecost instructions to "repent, be baptized... and receive the Holy Ghost," to Paul rebaptizing disciples who had only experienced John's baptism. A consistent pattern emerges – the apostles never separated water baptism from Spirit baptism, and neither should we.

This message directly challenges much of today's Christian teaching that treats baptism as optional or merely symbolic. The biblical pattern shows that authentic discipleship requires both baptisms. 

Whether you've been baptized before, are considering baptism, or simply want deeper biblical understanding, this episode will transform your perspective on what it truly means to fully obey the gospel of Jesus Christ. 

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j - Jesus M. Ruiz (00:03):
The vision received was that of blood cells
traveling throughout the body,supplying the much needed oxygen
and other nutrients to thediffering members of the body to
fulfill their purpose.
Once the blood cells are spent,they must return back to the
heart to be refilled beforebeing sent out again and fulfill
their purpose.
Let's see, we've got Rebeccagoing to get baptized today, and

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by her very action she isstating a question Do we really
need to get baptized twice?
Is that necessary?
I want to look into that alittle bit and I want to see if
this is a necessary thing.
I want to look at first thegospel of Jesus Christ.
We find that in 1 Corinthians,15.

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And Paul is speaking to theCorinthians.
He's saying Moreover, brethren,I declare unto you the gospel
which I preached unto you, whichalso ye have received and
wherein ye stand by, which alsoye are saved, if we keep in
memory what I preached unto you,unless you believed in vain,

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for I delivered unto you firstof all that which I also
received, how that Christ diedfor our sins, according to the
scriptures, and that he wasburied and that he rose again on
the third day, according to thescriptures.
And right there Paulencapsulates what the gospel is.
It is a message of what Jesusdid for us he died for our sins.

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He didn't just die, he died forour sins, he was buried and he
rose again on the third day.
And he says later on, in verse14 of the same chapter and so

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I'd like to start off with thegospel, because the doctrine
that we talk about of baptismsis found in the principles of
the doctrine of Christ, inHebrews 6.
And it says baptisms, zisms,plural.
It's not one.
It doesn't say the doctrine ofbaptism, baptisms.
It's interesting.
It says, therefore, leaving theprinciples of the doctrine of

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Christ, let us go on intoperfection, not laying again the
foundation of repentance fromdead works and of faith toward
God and of the doctrine ofbaptisms.
That's found in Hebrews 6, 1through 3.
Paul declared unto them thegospel and it was received by
them.
It was something that, if theymaintained their way in the

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gospel that he preached untothem, it would continue to keep
them in a state of salvation, ina state of being saved.
And Paul told them, if theyhold fast to it and abide in it,
it would ensure their salvation.
Unless they believed, in vain,unless they believed, and then
let it go and let it go away anddidn't bother with it anymore.

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But the gospel of the death,the burial and the resurrection
of Jesus Christ.
If you notice, it wasn'tseparated, it was inseparable.
He didn't just preach how Jesusdied and then that was it.
He didn't preach that Jesusdied and he buried in a tomb.

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He preached that Jesus died,was buried, and the key was that
he rose again.
He rose again, aliveforevermore, unlike anyone else
had, unlike anyone else, becausehe was the first fruits of the
resurrection.
So now think about it, becausein this day and age, we hear the
gospel being preached and itsounds very similar to that
about how Jesus was died, aboutHe was buried and about He rose

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again and He hung on a cross forour sins, and we hear that from
all the denominations.
But something that was expectedof Paul, something that was
expected of Peter, somethingthat was expected of Philip,
something that was expected ofall the apostles and the
disciples of the first century,is not what is being expected

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today.
So think about what you hearpreached today.
What supposedly represents thegospel?
Is it different than what wejust mentioned now?
Because Paul just put it in anutshell.
Has something been added to?
Has something been taken to?
Has something been taken awayfrom it?
Whatever you have experienced,whatever you have heard preached
from other denominations thatare out there, you need to look

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no further than the scriptures.
And what does the word of Godsay?
Not what does that populartelevangelist that's lived and
it's about 80 something yearsold has said?
Not what that man, that holyman from England, what he
preached and how fiery he wasand how he lays on people and
they heal.
I don't wanna know what hepreached.
I don't wanna know what Lutherhad said when he left the

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Catholic church, because theonly person that I know is that
there were 24 elders seatedaround the throne and they seem
to have represented the throneand they seem to have
represented the apostles, theyseem to have represented the
tribes of Israel.
There seems to be a cornerstonethat is founded, that is
connected to Jesus Christ, whereit says the apostles and the

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prophets, of which Jesus Christis the chief cornerstone.
So there is one gospel, andthis is it that Jesus Christ
died for our sins, fulfillingmany, many, many prophecies from
all throughout the OldTestament.
He was buried for three days,yes, and he most assuredly rose
again, and the book of Acts hasso many examples of how the

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gospel was preached and what theapostles said and, moreover,
what did the people do when theyheard the gospel preached?
You can read about Peter'smessages, you can read about
Paul's messages, you can readStephen's messages, you can read
Philip's messages and you cancompare them with what gospel
you have heard today.
And I encourage you to stickwith what the apostles have said

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.
Stick with what the apostleshave said.
Over the centuries, many, many,many things have been added to,
some things have been taken awayfrom the simplicity of the
gospel.
And the simplicity of thegospel has been clearly recorded
.
It is undoubtedly the power,the power of God unto salvation.

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There's power in this gospel.
It is not just a good newsmessage, but there's power that
brings salvation unto any manthat believes.
It says in Romans 1 16,.
And Paul was not ashamed topreach this particular gospel,
of which Peter agreed andStephen agreed and Philip agreed

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and all the disciples agreed,because all the disciples abided
in the doctrine of the apostles.
Now, the response of a believerto that gospel is just as simple
.
It is just as clear.
Jesus said that a man could notsee the kingdom of God unless
he were born again.
It says he could not enter intothe kingdom of God unless he

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was born again.
And so one must be born againof the water and of the spirit,
as it says in John 3, 1 through5.
Notice, the born of the waterand the Spirit are both required
, the water and the spirit, notjust the death and alone, but
the death and the burial andresurrection.

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They're inseparable.
And so for the gospel of JesusChrist to be applied to our
lives, to be relevant, to be areality that we could see the
power of God unto salvation, weneed to experience something,
because it just doesn't listento it, and just be a hearer of
the word.
But we must be what Doers ofthe word.

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Fortunately, we have had theprivilege of hearing the gospel,
and we must respond to hearingthe gospel by obeying the gospel
.
And we must respond to hearingthe gospel by obeying the gospel
.
What does it profit a man tohear the word and do nothing?
What does it profit a man toknow that a furious hurricane is
coming into his town, into hiscity, and he doesn't board up

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and he doesn't move to a moresecure location if necessary?
What does it profit to know allof these things?
What does it profit to know the10 commandments?
The Israelites knew the 10commandments and they died in
the wilderness.
What does it profit to haveknowledge if you don't do
anything with it and mix it withfaith?

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If we turn to Luke 7, verse 28,.
Jesus is speaking to all thepeople.
He's speaking to the Pharisees,he's speaking to the harlots,
he's speaking to the taxcollectors, he's speaking to all
those lowly sinners that are inthe place and all those high
uppity Pharisees and religiousand political leaders.
He said there was not a greaterprophet to have lived than John

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the Baptist.
He said specifically, for I sayunto you, among those that are
born of women, there is not agreater prophet than John the
Baptist.
But he that is least in thekingdom of God is even greater
than he.
And all the people heard himand all the publicans justified
God.

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What does it say?
Read it Justified God.
What being baptized.
That's how they justified God,because John the Baptist came to
earth with a word from heaven.
It was a word of God, and theyjustified God by being baptized,
which is exactly what John theBaptist preached Be baptized for

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the forgiveness of your sins.
And then it says further, butthe Pharisees and the lawyers
rejected the counsel of Godagainst themselves.
How do you know?
They rejected the counsel ofGod Because it says not being
baptized, not being baptized.
So, except for the religiousleaders of the day, all that
heard John the Baptist words,they justified God, they got

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baptized and they prepared theway, because John the Baptist
was sent to prepare the way forthe coming of the Lord.
And preparing the way startedwith repentance, repent and be
baptized for the forgiveness ofyour sins.
It was given to John theBaptist to baptize unto
repentance for the forgivenessof sins.
Not only did the religiousleaders not hear Jesus, but even

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in what they heard, they didnot do.
They did not obey the word ofGod and it resulted in their
judgment.
So, instead of submitting tothe word of God, which results
in obedience to the word, theycame back again Another time to
talk to Jesus and to try to triphim up.
And it says in Matthew, chapter21,

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And when he was coming to thetemple, the chief priest and the
elders of the people came untohim as he was teaching and said
by what authority doest thouthese things and who gave thee
this authority?
Because he's nearing the end ofhis ministry and they see that
he's performing miracles andnone can say not about it,

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because it's genuine.
They can't say that the blindman doesn't see because he sees.
They can't say that the lameman is not walking, because he's
walking right before them andhe's there daily.
So they want to know whatauthority do you come here doing
these things, Jesus?
And they recognize hisauthority and ask him where did

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he get it from?
So Jesus, remembering thisearlier account in luke 7, Jesus
thinks back how should Irespond to them?
And Jesus answered and said Ialso will ask you one thing
which, if you tell me, I, andlikewise will tell you by what
authority do I do these things?
The baptism of John.

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Whence was it?
From heaven or from men?
He goes right back to John theBaptist.
And so he confronted themconcerning John's baptism.
Why?
Because they had rejected thecounsel of God and they would
not get baptized.
So Jesus asked them about thebaptism Was it from heaven,

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meaning, was it from God, or wasit just some man-made idea that
he just concocted and he wantedpeople to do it because he
wanted some sort of sign ofcontrol over the people.
And it says and they reasonedwith themselves saying if we
shall say from heaven, he willsay unto us, why do we not
believe in him then?
But if we shall say of men, wefear the people, for they hold

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John as a prophet.
And they answered Jesus andsaid well, we cannot tell.
And he said unto them oh,neither will I tell you by what
authority I do these things.
The religious leaders counseledamong themselves, and they
would not be honest withthemselves.
They were afraid of the peopleand they really couldn't gainsay

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what John the Baptist was doing.
So, in other words, if they hadbelieved John, if they had said
well, it was from heaven, thenwhy didn't you get baptized?
And if they will say it wasfrom men, then all of the people
around them, what are you crazy?
You Pharisees?
We'll stone you.
This is a holy man.
How could you say anythingagainst John the Baptist?

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The people recognized that Johnwas a prophet of the highest.
It says in Luke, chapter one,verse 79.
So sheepishly, they answeredwell, we don't know.
And for their cowardice, Jesusdid not tell them by what
authority he did these things.
So these events alone, to me,testify the significance of

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baptism in water.
And what does baptism mean?
Well, it consists of beingtotally immersed, submersion,
emergence.
The verb means.
It's like they take a garment,they wanna dye it purple.
They don't just dip it, theydon't sprinkle it, they don't
pour anything on it, theyliterally submerge the garment

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in the purple dye so that whenit comes out and it dries, they
have purple clothing.
And that's what that word meansto be baptized.
And so I wanna look at someprecedents of baptism in water
and in spirit.
So we're going to turn toMatthew 3.
It says in those days, John theBaptist came and he was
preaching in the wilderness ofJudea.

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And in verse 6, it says, andwere baptized of him in Jordan,
confessing their sins.
This was a natural part of whatJohn the Baptist was preaching.
Yes, they went into the water,yes, they got baptized, but they
were confessing their sins.
He said I indeed baptize youwith water unto repentance, in

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verse 11, but he that comethafter me is mightier than I,
whose shoes I am not worthy tobear.
He shall baptize you with theHoly Ghost and with fire.
And why do I read this?
Because from the beginning, theinseparableness of baptism in
water and baptism in the Spiritwas always there.
Jesus died, yes, but he roseagain.

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It was connected, and so whatwe see is that clearly there's a
necessity of both baptisms.
John the Baptist was affirmedby what Jesus had questioned the
Pharisees about what he did wasright, but also in what he said

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would come after him shouldalso be expected.
Do we really need to getbaptized twice?
Think about where I'm goingright now.
The spiritual baptism refers tobeing immersed in the Spirit of
the living God to such an extentthat he indwells you.

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That never happened before.
He was upon people, He walkedwith them, He talked with them,
but He never indwelled them.
Baptism in the water is aboutbeing baptized in Jesus' name
and being totally immersed inthe water in his death.
Romans 6 explains to us that,in the water in his death.

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Romans 6 explains to us that weare baptized into his death and
we are raised again in thenewness of life.
So at this point, with Johnspeaking about I indeed get
baptized, indeed confess yoursins, but there's one after me
that's going to come with HolyGhost and fire.

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We really don't know why.
We know baptism is of water,it's about repentance, it's
about confessing your sins.
But what is this?
Holy Ghost and fire part.
So we're going to continuereading in Matthew and go to
chapter 3.
And Jesus is coming from Galileeto Jordan, to John, his cousin,

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to be baptized of him, and inverse 13, 14, 15, and 16, john
forbade him, saying I need to bebaptized of thee.
I've been preaching to all thepeople, you're supposed to come
and baptize me.
And Jesus answered and saidunto him Suffer, it.
Be so now, for thus it becomethus to fulfill all righteousness

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.
So John acquiesced and Jesus,when he was baptized, went up
straightway out of the water and, lo, the heavens were opened
unto him and he saw the Spiritof God descending like a dove
and lighting upon Him.
Jesus said that He needed to bebaptised to fulfill.
The key word is to fulfill allrighteousness.

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He did not come to break thelaw, he did not come to destroy
the law.
He came to fulfill the law.
And baptism was part offulfilling the law.
That is the first and foremostimportant reason why he needed
to be baptized to fulfill thelaw, if we are going to attain

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the righteousness of God inChrist by faith.
Then it says he needed to bebaptized to fulfill all
righteousness.
Then baptism should be viewedas a baptized to fulfill all
righteousness.
Then baptism should be viewedas a requirement to obtain the
righteousness of God that onlycomes through Jesus Christ to
mankind.
Because you're not doing it inand of your own self, you're not
doing it just because you madesome crazy idea Well, let me get

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dumped in the water.
You're doing it because you'refollowing an example set forth
before you.
It says in 1 Peter 2.21,.
Christ suffered for us, leavingus an example that we should
follow in his footsteps.
It says in Philippians 2, hetook upon himself the form of a

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servant.
God took upon himself the formof a servant, was made in the
likeness of men and foundfashion as a man.
He humbled himself and becameobedient unto death.
Now, Jesus did not need to bebaptized in water for the
forgiveness of his sins.
He didn't have any.
There was nothing to confess.

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He simply took part in the actof being baptized in water.
He did not need to be baptizedin the Spirit in the act of
being baptized in water.
He did not need to be baptizedin the Spirit, the Spirit of God
descending upon him like a dove, is a type of being baptized in
the Spirit.
But we don't see Him speaking intongues, do we?
And there's a reason for that,because from the day that he was

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born, dwelt all the fullness ofGod within him, all the
fullness of God.
It says in Colossians 2.9, inhim dwelt all the fullness of
God.
It says in Isaiah 9:6, unto usprophecy of Jesus Christ.
Unto us.
A child is born, a son is given.

It says in Isaiah 7 (20:05):
14, that virgin she's going to conceive,
she's going to bear forth achild and call his name Emmanuel
.
And Matthew then interpretsthat being God with us.
From his birth he had theindwelling Spirit of God in him.

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So when the Spirit of God cameupon him as a dove, it is a type
of the spiritual baptism thatwas the come.
But He didn't speak in tongues.
And there's a reason.
He already had the fullness ofGod indwelling him, had the

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fullness of God indwelling him.
He, as the Son of man, set anexample unto us of what is
expected of man, what isexpected of mankind in his
response and relationship to Godand his word.
He was an example of a man thatwas completely and totally
dependent upon God.
We see that in his humility, wesee that in his obedience to
the Father, for he learnedthrough his suffering, obedience

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even when it meant his death.
And some still say today thatwater baptism is unimportant,
it's just an outward side of aninward work.
However, Jesus set the examplefor us to follow.
So am I going to listen to whatthey say today is important or
not important, or am I going togo by the example set forth in

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the word of God?
What is our authority here?
What is we're going to submitourselves to His opinion, his
commentary of what the scripturesays, or am I going to go into
the scriptures myself and be aBerean, which is, I believe,
what you've been doing for thelast few months?
You've been being a Berean.
You haven't taken anybody'sword for anything here, and nor

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should you, because even theBereans were more noble than
those in Thessalonica, because,when Paul preached the word,
even they went back to thescriptures to verify and confirm
what Paul had said, and sothere's nothing wrong with that.
So, Jesus, after he was died,after he was buried, after he

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rose again, after hisresurrection, he was for 40 days
teaching and speaking of thingspertaining to the kingdom of
God.
He ascended and right beforehis ascension, He told his
disciples don't depart Jerusalem, wait for the promise of the
Father, wait for the blessing ofAbraham, wait for the gift of

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God in Jerusalem.
So if we turn to Acts, chapterone, verse five, and he says
again regarding John the Baptist, for John truly baptized with
water, there's no problem there.
But ye shall be baptized withthe Holy Ghost not many days
hence.
So even Jesus is connecting thetwo.

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They're not separable and just,oh yeah, you just have to do
this, or only you just have todo that.
They continue to be inseparableeven before Jesus ascended.
And it says in verse eight butye shall receive power after
that Holy Ghost has come uponyou and ye shall be witnesses
unto me, both in Jerusalem andin all Judea and in Samaria, and

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unto other most parts of theearth.
The promise of the Father wasthe baptism in the Holy Spirit.
When they received theindwelling, the indwelling of
the Holy Spirit in the inner man, they received power and were
able to be witnesses to allnations, starting from Jerusalem
, Judea, Samaria, throughout alltheir most parts of the earth.

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So in Acts, chapter 2, we seetheir obedience to his word.
120 disciples were waiting inthe upper room, not just the 12
disciples, 120, including Mary,the mother of Jesus, and his
brothers and his sisters.

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They were there as well.
It says so in Acts, chapter 1.
And when they received thepromise, they began to speak in
tongues.
It was the first time theSpirit of God indwelt mankind.
It's the first time the spiritof God Took reign over the heart
Of a man who willinglysubmitted himself to them.

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And because there was an oldnature, when he came on the
scene, in his presence, in hispower, and he sanctified them,
there became a new nature beingcreated within the man that
received the indwelling presenceof God.
They even look like drunkenpeople, it says in Acts, chapter
2.
And Peter was the first man topreach the gospel in the

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anointing of the Spirit of God.
And during his preaching hetestified of the man named Jesus
, that God raised from the dead,who has now been exalted at the
right hand of God.
And Peter explained that, wheneveryone is now seeing and
hearing, amongst all these 120people here, this noise that's
abroad that you're coming toquestion about, this is the

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promise, this is the prophecy,this is that which Joel
prophesied would come to passand he would pour out his spirit
upon all flesh.
And your sons and daughtersshall prophesy and dream dreams,
and old men shall have visions.
It says then, this Jesus, thatGod raised up from the dead,
that we're all witnesses of,therefore being at the right

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hand of God exalted, and havingreceived of the Father the
promise of the Holy Ghost whichhe has shed forth, which you now
see and hear.
He was explaining to them whatthey are experiencing right now.
So the Holy Spirit is theSpirit that raised up the man
Jesus from the dead.
This was the Spirit that nowindwelled the 120 disciples and

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quickened them and made theirmortal bodies alive, to live for
God.

Because it says in Romans 8 (25:52):
11 , that when He quickens your
mortal bodies, it is to live forGod.
It is that your members wouldbecome righteousness unto him.
They can now do something theycould not do before.
They can now walk in the spirit, because the Spirit of God now

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indwelled them.
Paul said if you do not have theSpirit of Christ, which is the
Spirit of God, you are not His,he says in Romans 8, chapter 9.
So Peter then spoke to them,saying that the promise was also
for them.
But what they needed to do wasobey the gospel that they just

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heard preached.
And the listeners asked Peterand the apostles because they
were convicted.
And they said men, brethren,what do we do?
How do we fix this?
We just crucified the promisedone, the Messiah, the Lord of
glory.
How do we fix this?
And Peter said unto them repent.

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Same message as John the Baptist.
Be baptized in the name ofJesus for the forgiveness of
your sins.
Same message as John theBaptist, except it's including
now the name of Jesus for theforgiveness of your sins.
Same message as John theBaptist, except it's including
now the name of Jesus, becauseyou're being baptized into his
death.
But it doesn't end there, doesit?
It says and it says and yeshall receive the gift of the

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Holy Ghost Again.
The baptisms are inseparable.
So the promise was not only forthe disciples who turned into
apostles of Jesus Christ.
The promise was for all men whowould obey the gospel.
Peter answered them to repent,turn from their sins, turn from
their wicked ways.

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Same thing John the Baptistpreached Turn toward God, get
right with him, get baptized inthe name of Jesus so that your
sins would be forgiven.
Same thing John the Baptistpreached Turn toward God, Get
right with him, get baptized inthe name of Jesus so that your
sins would be forgiven andreceive the promise of the Holy
Spirit.
This was the fruit of theirresponse.
It says in Acts, chapter two,verse 41, they gladly received
the word and were baptized.

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How is it that the listeners ofJohn the Baptist's message
justified God?
They got baptized.
Why would it change for the newcovenant gospel message?
It would not, because he'sexpounding on what John the
Baptist's gospel was, which wascalled the gospel of the kingdom

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, which Jesus came and it saidwas called the gospel of the
kingdom, which Jesus came and itsaid he preached the gospel of
the kingdom and the apostlescame and were sent to preach the
gospel of the kingdom Gospelhas not changed.
That is the gospel that will bepreached until the end has come
, until the last soul needs tobe saved.
It says they gladly receivedthe words, they were baptized

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and that day added 3000 soulsinto the kingdom of God.
And the Holy Spirit is thekingdom of God that now indwells
his people and is manifest tothe rest of the world through
his people.
We are witnesses of Jesus Christ.
I know I've said this before,but I wasn't there the day that

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he was crucified, and I wasn'tthere the day that he
resurrected.
But because I have received thepromise of the Father, the
baptism in the Holy Spirit, Ican now testify and witness that
, yes, He is alive.
Yes, He is alive, and yes, Hedid resurrect.
Because I just received him, Iexperienced him, I spoke in
tongues, and now I'm able towalk in the Spirit like never

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before.
I have words of wisdom, I havewords of knowledge, I have
interpreted tongues, I havegiven the gift of tongues, and I
have a love in my heart likeI've never had before.
So I have his gifts, I have hisfruit, and now I'm walking in
his Spirit.
Blessed are they that have notseen and yet have believed.

It says in John 20 (29:50):
29.
Reminding you of Acts 1:8, weare witnesses to the whole
world, and so, reminding you inthis first official account of
what one does when they hear thegospel preached, we see that

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the baptism of the water and thebaptism of the Spirit are
inseparable.
If we go to Acts 8, we seePhilip preaching the gospel to
the half-Jews.
They were the low type of Jewsbecause they were mixed with
other blood.
So, yeah, there was even racismback then.
But anyways, he went down toSamaria.

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He preached Christ unto them.
And it says when they believedPhilip preaching the things
concerning the kingdom of God inthe name of Jesus Christ.
What does it say?
Is it up there?
Acts 8, verse 12, maybe 14.
Oh yeah, I'll read it.

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And they believed Philippreaching the things concerning
the kingdom of God in the nameof Jesus Christ.
They were baptized.
Message hasn't changed, andneither has the response.
Second time now.
And now it's to the half Jews.
They're not fully Jews, they'rehalf Jews, but they had to do
the same thing that the Jews did.
So they got baptized, both menand women.

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So it's not a gender thing.
And Philip preaches Christ,they receive it.
We see here that even baptismin water in Jesus' name is still
required.
And now we go to verse maybe 14through 17.
Now, when the apostles whichwere at Jerusalem heard that
Samaria had received the word ofGod sent to them by Peter and

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John, they received the word ofGod.
How did they know?
Wow, they responded to it.
They got baptized in Jesus name.
Okay, so Peter and John werewho, when they were, come down,
prayed for them that they mightreceive what the Holy Ghost?
What the Holy Ghost?

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You see, philip didn't stopthere and just preach to them
the word of God and baptize them.
When the word got back to thedisciples or the apostles in
Jerusalem, they didn't just stopthere and say, oh well, wait,
they got baptized in water.
No, it's not complete, thebaptisms are inseparable.
So they go and they lay handson them and they receive the
gift of the Holy Ghost.

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Notice that the requiredresponse did not end at water
baptism.
Peter and John were sent allthe way from Jerusalem to pray
and lay hands on them to alsoreceive their spirit.
And they did, received theirspirit and they did so.
No one right now at this pointwas exempt from responding to
the gospel in the very samemanner that the Jews on

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Pentecost had to respond.
They repented, they werebaptized in the name of Jesus,
and the promise of the HolySpirit was also given unto them
and to their children and to allthat are afar off who call upon
.
The name of the Holy Spirit wasalso given unto them and to
their children and to all thatare afar off who call upon the
name of the Lord, calling uponthe name of the Lord, in what
Baptism Inseparable.

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We can go to Acts 10, and now wesee the first time that the
gospel is preached to those thatare the Gentiles, those that
are supposedly not supposed tohave anything to do with God.
They're unclean.
And Peter saw a vision and Godsaid don't call them unclean.
When I've called them clean,I'm calling them out.

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I'm calling them out of theirdarkness into this marvelous
light.
Don't call them unclean and gowith these people.
And I want you to preach tothis man named Cornelius.
And while Peter was preachingthe gospel unto them, preaching
Jesus, he died, he was buried.
He rose again before he evengot to finish, he didn't even

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lay hands on them, he hadn'teven baptized anybody in water.
The Spirit of God fell uponthem, it says, while he spake
these words, the Holy Ghost fellon all of them which heard the
word, and they of thecircumcision.
The Jews that followed him,which had already believed, were
astonished, including Peter,because on the Gentiles was

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poured out the gift of the HolyGhost.
For they heard them, for theyheard why did they know?
For they heard them speak withother tongues and magnify.
God Then answered Peter.
So now they received the HolySpirit already.
Did it end?
Is it inseparable?
No, he says, can any man forbidwater?

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That these should not bebaptized.
And what did he do?
He commanded them to bebaptized.
In the name of the Lord, do weneed to get baptized twice?
And he says, as he recountsthis whole story to the Jews
back in Jerusalem, who arewondering Peter, what have you

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done?
How dare you do what you did tothe Gentiles?
And he's explaining I didn't doanything.
I could not argue with God.
He baptized them in the Spirit.
I can't do that.
So John indeed baptized withwater.
He remembered.
John indeed baptized with water.
But ye shall be baptized withthe Holy Ghost.

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Ding dong, rail start, oh, oh.
He didn't have all revelation.
He started getting it as Godstarted moving and started
realizing, and then he began towalk in agreement with it.
Agreement with it.

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The next account is a veryimportant account If you look at
Paul, Aquila and Priscilla inActs, chapter 18 and 19.
Sorry, excuse me, oh, 11:16.
That's where it was.
If we look in Acts, chapter 18and 19, we look at a certain Jew
.
He was named Apollos and itsays that he was born in

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Alexandria.
He was an eloquent man, he wasmighty.
In the scriptures whatscriptures, the only scriptures
there was at the time, the OldTestament.
Those scriptures, yes, he wasmighty in them, he knew what he
was talking about and hepreached fervently.
But the man was instructed inthe way of the Lord, being
fervent in the spirit, andtaught diligently the things of

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the Lord, knowing only thebaptism of John, only his
baptism.
But he spake boldly, synagogueto synagogue.
He was preaching about thebaptism of John, so he was
continuing the gospel of thekingdom that only John knew, but
for some reason he didn't knowanything about the Holy Ghost.

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Why do I know that?
I'm gonna get to that in asecond.
But Aquila and Priscilla weredisciples of Jesus Christ and
they got to travel with Paul.
Where he went, and they heardhim preach from synagogue to
synagogue, and so they tookApollos aside.
And it says in a very vaguesense, in a very general way

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they instructed him in the waymore perfectly.
Now, what exactly did they say?
I have no idea.
It doesn't say they justdescribed Luke.
Luke's the writer of Acts.
He just describes it.
Well, they instructed him inthe way more perfectly.
Who's the writer of Acts?
He just describes it.
Well, they instructed him inthe way more perfectly.
And when he hears what theypreach, he was mightily

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convinced and he went out tomightily convince the Jews and
he then began to speak publicly,showing the scriptures that
Jesus was the Christ.
He had the missing link now heknew about John the Baptist, he
knew about repentance, he knewabout baptism, but he didn't
know about the one who was tocome, because then he started

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speaking about Jesus Christ.
I still don't know exactly whatthey said, but they convinced
him and he changed and he beganto speak of Jesus Christ.
So now, if you read Acts 19, itgoes back to Paul, and Paul is.
He ran into some apparentdisciples and he really didn't

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know where they were coming from.
So he begins to have aconversation with them.
He was, it says, while Apolloswas in Corinth.
Paul passed through the uppercoast of Ephesus and he found
certain Pharisees or, excuse me,certain disciples, and he said
to them, as he's talking withthem, something was said, don't
know exactly what it was, but itprompted him to say have you

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received the Holy Ghost sinceyou believed?
Now, if you ask that tosomebody, there's probably a
good reason why you're askingthat.
It's maybe because you'rediscerning.
There's something off there.
What have you been taught.
So he asked them did theyreceive the Holy Ghost?
And they said unto him well, wehaven't heard whether there be
any Holy Ghost.
Now they were apparentdisciples walking in the

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doctrine of John the Baptist.
Is it too much to stretchdescriptions and think that
maybe that's where Apollos was,because that's all he knew, the
doctrine of John the Baptist.
So he was probably in the sameboat?
They were.
So Paul begins to say hmm, letme ask you another question.
He said unto them what were youbaptized into?

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You haven't received the HolyGhost.
Okay, what were you baptizedinto?
You haven't received the HolyGhost.
Okay, what were you baptizedinto?
And they said unto him, untoJohn's baptism.
Then it dawned on Paul ah, Iknow what kind of disciples
You're, disciples of John theBaptist.
Okay, that's good, because,remember, even Jesus did not put
down John the Baptist for hisministry.
He affirmed John the Baptist'sministry.

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So Paul's not going to put downJohn the Baptist's ministry.
He's like okay, well, Johndefinitely baptized with
repentance.
And he said unto the peoplethat you should believe on him,
that should come after me, thatis, on Christ Jesus.
So if you think about Apolloand Aquila and Priscilla, and
here Paul is ministering tothese people about did you

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receive the Holy Ghost?
Did you get baptized?
Oh, okay, you're in John'sbaptism.
Well, let me tell you aboutJesus Christ, because that's who
John also preached about.
Maybe you didn't hear that part, but John also preached about
that.
The one was gonna come afterhim that was gonna baptize you
in the Holy Ghost and fire.
So when they heard this, theyjustified God.

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How?
So they got baptized in thename of the Lord.
And after they got baptized inthe name of the Lord, when Paul
had laid hands on them, the HolyGhost came upon them and they
spake with tongues andprophesied Do you think it's too
much of an assumption to makethat if Paul preached this to
these apparent disciples of Johnthe Baptist and Aquila and

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Priscilla were underneath theteachings of Paul that they
probably taught Apollos the samething?
I don't think it's toofar-fetched.
I think it's pretty linear.
It's pretty consistent with thescriptures.
There's no stretching of it tomake it say something entirely
different.
But notice Acts.
Chapter 18 was the story ofAquila, Priscilla and Apollos.

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The very next chapter is Pauldoing this?
Do you think Luke may have hadit in his mind.
Actually, the Holy Spirit hadit in his mind.
Let me confirm to them what wastaught, what was preached.
So during their conversation,have you received the Holy Ghost
, since you believed, answeredthey never heard of such a thing

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.
What were you baptized into?
Just looking at those twoquestions, Paul is showing that
he is in complete agreement withwhat Peter already did.
From Acts 1 to Acts, where arewe at?
19.
The message didn't change.
The gospel didn't change.
The expectation didn't change,didn't matter who was preaching,

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Peter or Philip, or now Paul.
Peter, Paul, Philip would notseparate baptism in water in
Jesus' name, nor baptism in theSpirit.
They were essentially importantto Paul in identifying what
kind of disciples are you?
He asked those two questions.

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You ask those two questionstoday and you might get a cat
fight, you might get anexplosion of turmoil.
But my pastor and thattelevangelist hey, let's just go
with what Peter, Paul and therest of the apostles said.
It says they abided in thedoctrine of the apostles, not

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popular televangelists here orthere.
So at this point, this accountof Paul's encounter with the
apparent disciples sheds lighton what Aquila and Priscilla
expounded to Apollos.
This is the way.
More perfectly.
Paul then said to them that thebaptism of repentance which

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John carried out was good, itwas well, but he preached to the
one coming after him.
So I think it's safe to assumethat the way of God more
perfectly is how did you respondto the gospel?
Did you receive the Holy Ghostand did you get baptized in
Jesus?
Not John's baptism in Jesus.

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So the testimonies to me, to meare overwhelming in favor of the
inseparableness of waterbaptism and spirit baptism.
Jesus didn't die and stay dead.
He didn't die and remain buried.
Jesus died, was buried and roseagain.

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To obey the gospel of JesusChrist, you must obtain for
yourself the death, the burialand the resurrection of Jesus
Christ.
He died in your place.
He paid the penalty for yoursins.
He paid the penalty for yoursins, not for his own.
And all he requires of you istrust and obedience.

(44:21):
That's what he requires of youTrust in his work that he did
for you in your place.
And now just walk in obedience.
Walk in my spirit, walk in thethings that I lead you to say.
Walk in the things that I leadyou to do.
I left you an example.
When I came in the flesh, Isubmitted myself to the eternal

(44:43):
Spirit, my Spirit.
I even then submitted myself tothem so that whatever I said,
it was what the father said.
Whatever I did, it's what thefather did.
And I expect you to do the same, and I've given you power to do
the same, because back in theOld Testament you only had the
law.
The law did not give power toman to overcome his sin and his

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carnality.
It only told him what to say orwhat to do, what not do, what
shall not say, and all of thesethings.
The knowledge doesn't matter.
It matters is did you be a doerof the knowledge of the word of
God?
From the first covenant gospelpreaching, it was expected that
you must repent, that you mustbe baptized, every one of you,

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in the name of Jesus Christ, forthe remission of your sins, and
ye shall receive, and ye shallreceive, the gift of the Holy
Ghost.
The initial willingness torepent is a beautiful thing, but
repentance in your own strengthis doomed to fail if it remains
in your own strength.

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However, God has made a way Ifyou will die with him and in him
, as is described in Romans 6,since he already died in your
place and if you will resurrectwith him and in him since he's
already resurrected in yourplace then you can obtain mercy.

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You can obtain forgiveness ofsins and grace, the power of God
unto salvation to walk freefrom sin and death and walk
according to the new life of thelaw of the spirit of life in
Christ Jesus in Romans 8.
In contrast to your previousmanner of life of walking in the

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flesh, you can now do somethingyou can never do before, and
that's walk in the spirit, alife completely and utterly
dependent upon the Spirit of God.
Do you need to get baptizedtwice in your life?
Absolutely?
I say Absolutely.
The scriptures say andRebecca's gonna get baptized

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twice today.
She got baptized when she waseight, I heard so she's getting
baptized again, but I reallywasn't playing on that.
I hope you understand that youdo need to get baptized twice.
Everybody needs to get baptizedin Jesus name unto his death
and receive his Spirit, which isthe baptism of Spirit unto the
newness of life, so that you canwalk in the power of his

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resurrection.
So I say yes, let us getbaptized today twice and let's
get it all done, because it wasinseparable in Jesus name, amen.
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