All Episodes

February 1, 2025 52 mins

Send us a text

In this episode, Ken echoes Dr. King’s notable “How, Long? Not Long" question and refrain in a memorandum to Jonathan Howes, Secretary of North Carolina’s Department of Environment, Health and Natural Resources that outlines Ken's 5-point framework for detoxifying the Warren County PCB landfill based on conditions necessary to environmental justice.

Three days earlier, the Secretary has announced that up to a million gallons of water is in the PCB landfill and is threatening to breach the bottom liner. 

However, after ten years of silence, the question is, why are state officials now bringing up the water issue?

Perhaps the Hunt Administration has been listening to the conversation Ken and Deborah have just had in Wilson County, the Governor’s own home county, about the failures and dangers of allegedly secure, lined landfills as they spoke to a poor, black community being targeted for a mega commercial solid waste landfill. Perhaps state officials have heard how the Ferruccios told Wilson citizens that with funding from the Episcopal Church, they are going to prove the PCB landfill is leaking. 

Perhaps state officials want to divert Ken and Deborah’s focus from continuing to build a coalition of ecumenical and environmental leaders to help prevent North Carolina from becoming an East Coast dumping grounds for solid, hazardous and radioactive waste.

Perhaps a PCB landfill water crisis and a stop-gap, drawn-out pumping solution will keep the Ferruccios busy at home. 

The year is 1993, and Governor Hunt is now in his third term in office. His record speaks for itself. He is well-known as a waste expansionist who will use police force against his own citizens. Ken knows this better than anyone. In his memorandum to Secretary Howes, Ken writes: “We are deeply disturbed about the PCB crisis here and about the trends this crisis represents throughout our state, our nation, and our world. The Afton crisis symbolizes the prevailing model for economic/industrial development: the model for waste expansion and inequity,  a model that transforms communities into sacrifice zones and preempts their civil rights.”

Taking his gloves off, Ken reminds the Secretary that “members of three races, blacks, whites, and Native Americans carried a cross here and were sacrificed in defense of principles universal to all people, places, and times — to all races, colors, classes and creed’ and that “everything concerning landfill siting since 1982 will be a footnote to Warren C   ounty.”




Mark as Played

Advertise With Us

Popular Podcasts

Crime Junkie

Crime Junkie

Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.

24/7 News: The Latest

24/7 News: The Latest

The latest news in 4 minutes updated every hour, every day.

Stuff You Should Know

Stuff You Should Know

If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.

Music, radio and podcasts, all free. Listen online or download the iHeart App.

Connect

© 2025 iHeartMedia, Inc.