In this episode, Shawna sits down with Londell Jackson—educator, strategist, and author of Between the Opposites—for a powerful conversation about the complexities of identity. From growing up mixed-race in Denver to navigating masculinity as a same-gender-loving Black and Latino man, Londell shares his deeply personal journey of self-discovery, cultural belonging, and emotional growth. Together, they explore themes like authenticity, inherited narratives, and the courage it takes to confront our “shadow self.”
Topics Covered:
- Growing up multiracial and feeling “not enough” for any one group
- Redefining masculinity beyond social expectations
- Why curiosity, empathy, and vulnerability are keys to connection
- The lenses we inherit vs. the ones we choose
- How identity journeys evolve across our lifetime
Resources Mentioned:
- Between the Opposites by Londell Jackson
- Carl Jung’s concept of the Shadow Self
- NeverEnding Story: Atreyu’s Mirror Scene
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