Out of Session w/ Kindman and Co.
A feelings-forward podcast where we leave our therapist selves at the door and have messy, real conversations about being human. We’re deconstructing the narrative of an expert through uplifting lived experiences and inviting free-flowing learning with community. We invite the imperfect, unfiltered, and rawness of humanity.
Episodes
IN THIS EPISODE:
Through a candid, unscripted conversation, two associate therapists explore what it really feels like to step into the role of healer while still learning how to hold space for themselves. Liam and Sarah reflect on their paths into therapy, the tension between confidence and self-doubt, and how the therapeutic relationship transforms both client and clinician.
TOPICS:
becoming a therapist, early-career therapy, th...
IN THIS EPISODE: Through an engaging conversation, Shannon Stott reveals how improv can be a transformative practice for personal growth, healing, and building empathetic connections across diverse experiences.
TOPICS: play, identity, Presence, healing, Improv, community
KEY FIGURES: Logan Kim, Shannon Stott, Yinka Freeman, Know Other Fest, Vivica C. Coxx, Jozie Clapp, Nika Cherelle, Kindman & Co.
SUMMARY:
In this episo...
IN THIS EPISODE: Therapists living with chronic illness share their personal journeys of navigating health challenges, emphasizing the importance of community, self-acceptance, and finding humor in the face of ongoing medical struggles. Find the transcript here.
TOPICS: healthcare, chronic illness, Disability, Bodies, community, mental health
KEY FIGURES: Spoon theory, Christine Miserandino, Kindman & Co., L.A. Spoonie ...
IN THIS EPISODE: Three therapists deconstruct toxic masculine norms by vulnerably sharing personal experiences and advocating for a more emotionally intelligent, nurturing approach to masculinity.
TOPICS: vulnerability, Masculinity, Therapy, emotions, connection
KEY FIGURES: bell hooks, Steve Wilson, Sophie Strand, The Will to Change, The Flowering Wand, Paul Kindman, Liam DeGeorgio, FD Signifier, Kindman & Co.
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TOPICS: coping, play, adulthood, Privilege, Creativity
KEY FIGURES: Dan Siegel, Jesse Romo, Dani Marrufo, Healthy Mind Platter, Kindman & Co.
SUMMARY:In this episode of Out of Session, hosts Dani Marrufo and Jesse Romo explore the concept of play in adulthood, discussing how the spontaneous, purposeless nature of play that comes naturally to children becomes increasingly difficult to maintain as people grow older. They reflect...
IN THIS EPISODE: In a candid discussion about managing stress and anxiety, two therapists offer compassionate insights into navigating complex social challenges through community support, self-care, and collective resilience.
TOPICS: Media, community, Stress, activism, dissociation, Anxiety
KEY FIGURES: Elon Musk, Donald Trump, Mark Zuckerberg, Sam Sanders, Steve Wilson, Ava Max, Zach Stafford, Vibe Check, Saeed Jones, Logan Kim, Mut...
IN THIS EPISODE: A candid podcast episode examining the challenges of discussing politics with family during the holidays, emphasizing personal boundaries, emotional self-care, and the nuanced ways individuals navigate potentially divisive familial relationships.
TOPICS: politics, Holidays, Boundaries, Bodily autonomy, family, Voting
KEY FIGURES: Donald Trump, Dani Marrufo, Demi Rodriguez, Kindman & Co.
SUMMARY:
In this...
In this episode of Out of Session, therapist, Anna Kim, together with guest, Dr. Aaron Balick, critically examine the rise of online therapy platforms like BetterHelp, discussing the fundamental differences between traditional psychotherapy and tech-driven mental health services. They argue that while these platforms promise convenience and accessibility, they fundamentally misunderstand the complex, relational nature of therapy, w...
Join Jesse in conversation with Anthony Bishop as they discuss their experiences in recovery from addiction and the social landscape of addiction and recovery. Their conversation covers a wide range of topics, including defining addiction, the relation between human connection and addiction/recovery, and the importance of community and social context in how we understand recovery. This is the second part of a two-episode series...
Join Jesse in conversation with Anthony Bishop as they discuss their experiences in recovery from addiction and the social landscape of addiction and recovery. Their conversation covers a wide range of topics, including defining addiction, the relation between human connection and addiction/recovery, and the importance of community and social context in how we understand recovery. This is the first part of a two-episode series.
Join Dani in an interview with Demi Rodriguez as they discuss their experiences with voting as Latinas. Demi is a 1st generation Latina who grew up seeing her parents' relationship with voting and developed her own understanding of how to embrace culture and her right to vote.
Look out for the full transcript of this episode on the Kindman & Co. blog and sign up for our Kindman & Co. newsletter on our website to get updates...
In this episode of 'Out of Session w/ Kindman & Co.', host Caitlin Harrison interviews Cait Ference-Saunders, of Move with Cait, a Trauma Centered Trauma Sensitive Yoga (TCTSY) facilitator, about embodiment, making choices, and religious trauma. Cait shares her background in yoga and her journey through understanding trauma, explaining that TCTSY is a research-based recovery modality developed to help individuals nav...
Dani, Steve, and Caitlin , three therapists, dive into the origin and meaning of 'Hot Girl Summer', tracing its roots to Megan Thee Stallion's 2019 album and subsequent social media posts. Stallion defined the term as being about being unapologetically oneself, having fun, being confident, and living your truth - a message that transcends gender and celebrates personal authenticity.
The discussion critically examines...
In this episode of Out of Session w/ Kindman & Co., host Dani Marrufo engages in a profound conversation with José Vidrio, owner of Highland Park Training, about the evolving concepts of fatherhood and masculinity. They delve into the challenges and responsibilities of modern fatherhood, exploring how traditional masculine roles are being redefined in today's society. José shares personal experiences and insights on navigat...
Explore gender and sexuality with Courtney Rago and Steve Wilson - two of our therapists who are queer and also work with many queer clients. Courtney and Steve will dive deeper into the definitions and terminology used by the LGBTQIA2S+ community. They'll also share their own experiences and identity, and discuss how definitions themselves can be frustrating.
Caitlin Harrison commonly hears clients and people in her life describing themselves and their needs as "too much". What this truly translates to is that we're living in an environment that is not enough for us. Listen in as Caitlin dives into societal pressures, systemic barriers, and her own experiences with privilege as a white therapist.
Let's dive into why Kindman & Co (specifically Dani & Amanda, 2 people of color) launched this podcast, how it feels to establish a platform, to speak, to take up space, and freely speak about lived experiences. Given the history of feeling silenced.
In this episode, co-founders Kaitlin and Paul Kindman sit down with Care Coordinator Amanda to share the origins of Kindman & Co., a therapy practice rooted in social justice and relational approaches. They discuss the challenges and triumphs of building a practice that prioritizes inclusivity, community, and a commitment to mental health liberation.
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