March 26, 2025 • 51 mins
Claire Abbitt and Ambria Tate are transforming what it means to be high school athletes in Richmond's first-ever sanctioned girls wrestling program. Their journeys couldn't be more different – Claire looking for teammates after moving from South Dakota, and Ambria seeking something that would balance her naturally quiet demeanor with newfound assertiveness.
What unfolds in their conversation is a powerful testament to how wrestling builds much more than physical strength. From practicing in converted storage closets to facing down opponents on the mat, these young women have discovered a reservoir of resilience they never knew they possessed. "Wrestling is a sport where you don't have time to be afraid," Claire explains, capturing the essence of how the sport reshapes mindsets.
Both wrestlers speak candidly about overcoming stereotypes, with Ambria sharing how her grandmother feared wrestling would make her infertile, while Claire tackles the misconception that female wrestlers inevitably become "super buff." Their refreshing perspective cuts through these outdated views: "It doesn't make you any less feminine... it just gives you more strength."
The mental transformation proves even more profound than the physical. Embria describes evolving from someone who would cry before matches to developing the composure to face any opponent. Meanwhile, Claire emphasizes that mental preparation outweighs athletic readiness – a lesson that extends far beyond the mat. As they prepare to become senior leaders next season, their focus shifts to mentorship, wanting to create an environment where newcomers feel welcome and supported.
Whether you're a wrestling enthusiast, parent of a young athlete, or someone searching for inspiration to step outside your comfort zone, Claire and Ambria's stories demonstrate how embracing challenges – even those that initially terrify us – can unlock potential we never knew existed. Listen now to discover why wrestling might just be the perfect arena for building tomorrow's confident, resilient leaders.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome to Out of the Mouth of Babes, the podcast for
our future leaders.
Today, we have two exceptionalyoung ladies in the room.
I'm not going to belabor this.
I'm going to allow them tointroduce themselves, starting
to my left.
What is your first and lastname, school you go to and all
of the interesting things you'reinvolved in, including your
academic performance?
Go ahead.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I'm Claire Abbott.
I go to Richmond High School,I'm a junior, I'm in the
National Honor Society and I'm awrestler.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
All right, next to my right.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
My name is Embria Tate.
I go to Richmond High School.
I'm a junior and I'm in theacademic competition team and I
do wrestling and track.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Awesome, awesome.
So you guys are, uh, fairlyactive in school, so I'm just
going to get right to it.
You know, one of the mostimportant things is that and
that has happened within thelast year is that ihsa has
sanctioned girls wrestling andum, and so it is uh, it is one
of the the sports.
I think it's a 90s uh, not sureexactly what number sport, but
(01:01):
I I know that it's.
It's now, um, a sanctionedsport.
So, with that being said,richmond had an inaugural team
this year.
You ladies were a part of it.
So can you tell me a little bitabout yourselves and how did
you get into wrestling?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
I started two years ago in South Dakota.
It became a big part of my lifeand I started it because I was
kind of lonely and I needed ateam to be with and it really
helped me and also it made mestronger and the mentality you
get from wrestling is just superimportant and you carry it with
you every day.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
so all right.
What about you, amber?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
I started wrestling this year at Richmond High
School and I just joined itbecause I wanted to be a part of
a team and on a sport and noneof the other sports.
I'm not really a team sporttype person and I hadn't gotten
into track yet and I felt likeit would help me be more
balanced within myself, becauseI'm usually more gentle and
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quiet, and it helped bring out amore assertive side of myself.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
All right.
So what was your initialreaction when you learned that
Richmond was starting a girlswrestling team?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
I was really excited because I had to wrestle on the
guys team the year before, so Iwas happy to have girls
teammates again that I couldlike hang out with in the locker
room and stuff.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
I didn't really know until you came up to me at a
football game and told me and Ididn't really know anything
about wrestling beforehand likeboys wrestling or girls
wrestling but I thought itsounded like something fun to do
and something within mycapabilities.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
All right.
So you know there was a lot ofups and downs this year.
I mean, we had a lot of success, but we also had some failures
and there are some things that,looking back on, I know we would
definitely change.
But what was the mostchallenging aspect of being part
of this inaugural team?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Not having a set space to practice at, because we
were all over the place.
We were up in the guys'wrestling room and then we were
down in the hallway and theneventually we got like a storage
closet to practice in wrestlingroom and then we were down in
the hallway and then eventuallywe got like a storage closet to
practice in.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
so I think that was tough because we were hitting
our heads on the wall um, Ithink the hardest part was
really learning it, because itwas a new sport for me and
developing a mentality thatwould be more beneficial for it,
because at first I was reallyscared.
Before every single match Iwould get really scared and
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start crying and by the end ofthe matches like the end of the
season, I didn't do that anymore.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
How has wrestling impacted your self-esteem?
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I think it brought it up.
You have to have a lot ofconfidence to be able to wrestle
in those tiny little singletsand you know, you know always
working hard and like workingout and stuff.
It definitely boosts yourconfidence being able to like
know that you can fight somebodyor at least like tussle with
them yeah, I agree on that but,I was thinking about that
earlier.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
It definitely did help my self esteem and self
concept and confidence becausewhenever we go away for
wrestling meets I get told I waspretty a lot and told that I
was really good at wrestling.
And I had other girls come upto me and tell me that they were
disappointed.
They didn't get to wrestle mebecause they really wanted to
and I seemed aggressive and agood opponent.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
All right, really wanted to and I seemed like
aggressive and a good opponent.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
all right, so can you share a memorable moment or
experience from this year?
Um, I think when we had thatteam pizza party and we were
over at Geneva's house, we gotin the hot tub, we took pictures
.
It was a good team bondingexperience.
I had a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
I think, um, I think the meet where I didn't get to
sleep the night before, I thinkthat was my most memorable like
for good and bad reasons one,because I got up to go tell you
I couldn't fall asleep and thenyou're like, your match started.
This is your match.
I had to borrow someone else'sheadgear and I had to get right
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into the match and then afterthat you took a really funny
picture that Kiesha posted andit's like really up close.
And I think something else thatwas memorable is whenever you
told us that you were part of afrat and you did the bark thing.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
The bark thing.
The bark thing, that'shilarious.
Oh man, you had, you are funny.
Uh, part of part of um clairementioned some team bonding
activities.
Um share a little bit about theimportance of those types of
activities for a team and someof the other ones that you guys
also did me either one I can gofirst, I think it helped build
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our team a lot better than a lotof our other schools teams.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
We get along very well and I talk to most of my
teammates on a daily basis and Ithink it helped us see each
other as more than justteammates and more as friends
and had a support system so thatwhenever we went and had
wrestling meets you didn't feelalone.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
You feel like you had someone to talk to if you were
nervous or worried aboutanything yeah, I never talked to
anybody on the team before Imet them and then I started
practicing with them and now Isee them in the hallway and I
get to say hi and stuff likethat, and I think it's important
because you're also likewrestling with these people at
practice.
So if you don't know them, thenit's so awkward.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Oh my gosh.
And we would go to Saturdaytournaments and be together for
hours on end.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
And then we'd have the team bonding days where we'd
go to the movies, work theconcessions and then like
Whenever we went to Buffalo WildWings too, that was good, and
they screamed at the top oftheir lungs.
That was embarrassing Awesomeawesome.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
How do you prepare mentally and physically for a
match?
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Mentally, I have this like checklist I read off
myself every time before I goout that says like I earned this
place, like you're wrestlingfor a reason, you've wrestled
for two years, like you're meantto be here and then, physically
, you just gotta get, likehonestly, some good sleep and
that's it for me um, yours isusually very different, because
you usually like isolateyourself from everybody else.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
I usually drink something like usually it's
Gatorade, like electrolyteGatorade, so I don't get dizzy.
And then I just talk to myteammates until it's time,
because if I think about it toomuch then I I'm going to psych
myself out.
And then I just make sure Isleep the night before and eat
something really heavy andprotein, because I can't eat
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before weigh-ins.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
What is something that you would tell young women
who are considering joiningwrestling?
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Definitely go for it and don't be scared.
Wrestling is a sport where youdon't have time to like be
afraid and like stay back in thecorner.
It's something that you have tolike go out and do so.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
If you decide to do it, go for it you should
definitely try it out at leastonce and you'll probably be good
at it, because it's more ofjust learning like spatial
awareness, and it's it.
It builds a really good supportsystem and it changes you a lot
as a person and gives you astronger mentality now,
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unfortunately, people have theirown opinions about, like the
sport of wrestling, particularlygirls wrestling.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
How do you face stereotypes or misconceptions
about female wrestlers and howdo you deal with it?
Now I don't want to hear yousay you slam them down and you
pin them, but how do you facethem and deal with that?
Speaker 3 (08:53):
What stereotypes?
Speaker 1 (08:54):
I don't know.
I mean there are misconceptionsand stereotypes about women
wrestlers or wrestling ingeneral.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Well, my grandma she told me that she didn't want me
to wrestle and that I shouldquit wrestling.
This was like right beforeregionals too, because she said
that I'm going to like getslammed down wrong and like be
infertile or something.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Infertile.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Yes, yes, like promise and like people think
that if they wrestle they'll getlike super buff and like super
ripped.
But I promise you that takes alot of hard work, like a lot of
hard work.
It's like if you took a scienceclass and thought you were
accidentally going to end up atNASA.
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Like it takes hard work to dothat and it doesn't make you any
like being a wrestler a girlwrestler especially.
It doesn't make you any lessfeminine than you are outside or
before you started, because itjust gives you more strength.
It doesn't change who you areand make you less of a girl.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
I hear a lot of guys say that girls wrestling isn't
as hard, but I know that heathercole would beat the crap out of
any of them any day and girlswrestling is just as hard.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Like they have 17 percent more testosterone on
this, so obviously they're goingto be a little stronger, but we
can hit moves just as good andI feel like archie said that he
would not come back and wrestlewith us, like he said that we
just are too, because I feellike we have to compensate a
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little bit for lack of strengthby being quicker and more
aggressive with what we do.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
So you mean the young boy that came down to the
wrestling room the one time andgot his butt looked and that
y'all beat up on for for about agood 35, 40 minutes.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
That little kid that was talking trash right before.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
I find him in the hallway.
I be like Archie, you comewrestle with us.
And he's like, no, I'm notdoing that.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
He said I couldn't beat him.
And then after he said, sorry,I doubted you because I had his
butt on the floor.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
What what are your ultimate goals in wrestling,
like for you, what are yourultimate goals?
What do you see yourself in,let's say, into high school
college Olympics Like what doyou see yourselves?
Speaker 2 (11:14):
I really want to wrestle at Manchester.
I think it's just a really goodschool.
It's a D2, so if I could getinto that for an athletic
scholarship that would be great.
If not, it's already got me theopportunity to win a
scholarship from Richmond anyway, and it has shaped my mindset
for the future.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
So yeah, I'd love to get like a scholarship for it,
because I really do want to doit in college.
That's one thing I'm very sadabout that I started this junior
and not before because I thinkit would have been really
beneficial if I had done itfreshman, sophomore, junior and
not before, because I think itwould have been really
beneficial if I had done itfreshman, sophomore, junior and
senior.
And I don't want to only haveone season left.
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I want to continue doing it andI hope that going forward, I
just continue and I really wantto win like at least a few
tournaments.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
I think you can do that.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
I got second three times.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
That Centerville tournament is calling your name.
Next year it is in the crowns.
Oh yeah, the crowns.
We're all going to have a crownby then.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
I say the state championship is going to be
calling your name too.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
State championship is calling my name for sure.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
I really do want to go to state.
I'm working on it right now.
You guys were just one win awayfrom going to state this year
that was so crazy, honestly,Because I didn't think I was
going to make it past the firstespecially because she was tall
and I'm not good at wrestlingtall girls.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
So five of you went to regionals and again all of
you at least half of you wereone match away from going to
state.
Tell me how you felt on thatbus ride going home.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
I felt cheated because the ref made some pretty
bad calls and it kind of messedup my mindset in the match.
But other than that Idefinitely felt like I needed to
work harder in the future.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
I felt really proud of myself because I did make it
past the first round.
I made it to the second one,which is one match from state,
and the girl that I went againstshe cut down 15 pounds to be in
my weight class, so I didn'treally feel like it spoke on me
as a person.
I just feel like she was morewell-prepared and she had been
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doing it for a long time.
Her record was like 3 to 23.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
30 to 30?
.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Was it.
No, I'm asking you, I didn'tknow it was like 3 to 23 for the
season, so she had been doingreally good the whole time and
she was a senior, so I didn'tfeel like it said anything about
me.
I felt really proud of myselfbecause I made it that far my
first season, my first time everplaying a sport, so I was
really happy and you were in asituation where the week before
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the young lady got injured andwouldn't and didn't continue,
which put you in second place.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
And then you're in a position where you were up, you
know to somebody that you hadlost to, I think what seven, one
and um, and then there was somequestionable, some questionable
things that happened and thenshe ended up circling back
around.
So I'm sure that those momentswill motivate you and push you
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to get to the next step.
If you could speak to a groupof young ladies, young girls,
right now, what would your salespitch be about?
Wrestling, what would you sayto them?
You know a bunch of fourth,fifth and sixth graders right
now.
What would you say to them toget them motivated to wrestle?
Speaker 3 (14:44):
You'll have lots of fun, you'll learn how to beat
people up and you'll build agood community and it'll open a
lot of opportunities for you inthe future that you otherwise
wouldn't have access to, anddoing things in general,
especially if they're outside ofyour comfort zone, can open
doors to things and interestsyou never knew that you had
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definitely.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
I would tell them that it's a great team sport,
even if it's an individual sport, and also that their confidence
will go up and they'll have.
They won't doubt themselveswhen it comes to a situation
where they need to be betterthan an opponent or somebody
else.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
If you had to speak to the AD or the principal or
school board member, what wouldyou say to them about wrestling
and why it's important tocontinue to support wrestling?
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Because it's the coolest sport out there, I would
say, because it's not likeother sports where it's just
starting off and it's anindividual sport.
So the support that we get fromthe school can determine how
well we do in the match, becauseit's just you on the mat
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representing your school.
So the more funds and the moresupport we have from the school,
the better that we can do andbetter we can train and prepare
for these matches and win andset records for the school and
stuff.
And I think that it's a goodinvestment for the school to
make, especially since it's juststarting off.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
All right, claire.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Well, I think everything Ambria said pretty
much sums it up.
But yeah, they offer plenty ofscholarships for wrestlers, and
having that contact with theircoaches too and having somebody
to lean on is very important forum people our age Cause they'll
get into a lot of trouble ifthey don't have a parental
figure telling them like good orbad things to do.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Especially cause.
Most of them don't listen totheir parents, because by the
time you're in high school,you're at odds with your parents
most of the time.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Yeah, but hey, if you get kicked off the team team,
you got to do what they say sowhat does wrestling mean to you
personally?
Speaker 1 (17:04):
talk to what.
Just what does that?
What does it mean to youpersonally?
Speaker 2 (17:08):
to me, it means the ability to like triumph over
hardships, because I've put in,been put in some pretty rough
situations in my life and beingable to come out on top as a
winner through all of them hasjust changed my perspective.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
To me, it means facing my fears, even whenever I
don't want to, and finishingthings even whenever it's hard,
and being able to push throughwhenever I don't feel like I can
win, and having something it'sknowing that's determined on how
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, how well I do, and that I'mnot getting off the mat until
one of us wins and I determinewho wins do you all remember
your first wrestling match?
Speaker 2 (17:58):
yes, first wrestling match your very first wrestling
match yes yes, tell me what wasgoing on in your mind a lot of
nothing, honestly, because I washopping, I was coming off my
two feet, I was hopping in acircle, but that was the first
match I ever won too, so thatwas that made me go bonkers.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
That was insane um, my first match.
I wasn't really scared beforebecause I don't know.
I was just very calm.
I'm usually very calm and I wasjust there for fun at that
point, so and I used the movethat I had been working on main,
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like focusing on which was ahigh c, and I performed it and I
won and it was like a reallyshort match how do you stay
motivated after a tough loss orsetback?
Speaker 2 (18:52):
um, that's hard because after, um, the weekend
where I lost a pretty bigtournament and I didn't even
place, I was in a mental slumpfor like at least a week and to
get out of it, honestly, I justkept getting out of bed and
going to practices.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
That's the only way that it helped Probably my anger
with myself and the fact that Ilost and just knowing that I
can improve and having somethingto improve and analyzing what
went wrong and working on notdoing it anymore.
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And there was one tournament Ithink it was Beach Grove where I
only won one of my threematches, but I wasn't even upset
because I got past theelimination rounds and I knew
that I went against girls whohave way more experience than me
.
Especially remembering thatwhenever I would beat girls who
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had been going for like three tosix years and had been
wrestling for three to six yearsreally helped me get through
that, because it let me like itmade me remember that it doesn't
matter how much experience theyhave and stuff or how much
experience I have.
I can change the outcome nexttime.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
What's the hardest part about balancing wrestling
with school work or otherresponsibilities that you guys
have?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
finding the time to do anything and then also having
the energy to do it like you'llget out of practice at like six
.
You'll be home by like 6 15,then you got a shower and then
get to work on homework for anhour, and so, honestly, it's
kind of tough to have a jobduring wrestling season um, yeah
, I think getting homeespecially from tournaments
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really late, but I don't.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
I don't really do homework at home.
I have study periods, so Iwould just do my chores and
stuff and I make sure that Istay on top of stuff so that I
can have extra time afterwrestling and wrestling was like
pretty much the only thing Iwas doing the entire winter so
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you know in every wrestlingseason you will have a tough
match or a high stakes match.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
How do you mentally prepare for that?
How do you prepare for thatyoung lady that you know is a
state qualifier or somebodythat's beat you before?
How do you prepare for thosetypes of matches?
Speaker 2 (21:32):
I just tell myself that I want it more and that she
doesn't want it as much as I do, and it just gives me so much
energy and I just go out thereand I tell myself, if I can't
win, I'm going to give her onehard time trying to get her to
win.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
I usually just don't think about it until I get up
there and I just remember that Ihave to do it.
And I can't just say I don'twant to wrestle, I don't want to
do this match, I can't do that,so I have to do it, want to do
this match like I can't do that,so I have to do it.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
And it doesn't matter who has more experience or if
she is a state finalist, becauseshe never wrestled me before,
so talk to me a little bit aboutsisterhood and on a wrestling
team, how do you guys definesisterhood and your expectations
for sisterhood like what do youexpect from your teammates?
Speaker 2 (22:19):
I know that whenever I go out on the mat I've got at
least a couple people cheeringfor me, and that when I lose
I've got some people trying tolift me back up.
I just kind of expect myteammates to just be nice and be
willing to practice hard andlike work hard for something.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Well, I worked not worked hard but I really focused
on building individualrelationships with each of my
teammates and, I think, havingthe support because my family's
my family didn't come to any ofthe matches and probably won't,
like my sister came to one ofthem and that was when I had to
wrestle up, so I didn't win thatmatch, but I think having the
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support and having thereassurance there afterwards if
you do lose is really a greattool.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
What's your favorite wrestling move and why?
Speaker 2 (23:11):
I love a fireman's carry because it's so easy to
set up and hit in a match andmost people fall for it.
It's like my bread and butter.
I can just hit it so easy.
And then also, I've never hitone before in a match, but I
want to hit a spladle.
I love seeing people getspladles hit on them because
it's just so funny.
And I want to do it on a guysometime, like when I'm in a
guy's tournament and I want tohit a spladle.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
I really like high Cs because they're really easy for
me to perform, because they'reone quick motion and I have a
lot of strength, especially inmy legs.
So I just have to pick them upafter and just perform the
movement.
But towards the end of theseason a double leg blast was my
favorite because I think it'smore fun.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Do you prefer aggressive, fast-paced matches
or do you prefer more technical,strategic bouts?
Speaker 2 (24:08):
I gotta say if the person's worse than me, I want
to be more fast and aggressive,but if they're equal, then I
want it to be a nice long matchso that I can feel good about it
after um, considering I got a14 second pin at one of our
tournaments.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
I don't like long matches.
I just I just want to win.
I just want to win the matchand have it be over.
So I like aggressive and fastmatches, especially because most
people don't expect that fromme because of how I carry myself
.
Whenever I do be aggressive andfast, it catches them off guard
.
I probably won a few matches Iotherwise wouldn't have won just
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from doing that you know, inwrestling you talk a lot about
mental toughness.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
How important is it to be mentally tough compared to
physically tough or physicalhaving physical strength?
Speaker 2 (24:57):
if you don't have the mental capacity to be able to
build yourself back up after abad match, you're not going to
get any better.
Because you're not going tohave the motivation to practice,
you're not going to have themotivation to go work out after
and when you get to that nexttournament.
If you're still in that funk,you're not going to perform well
.
So being mentally prepared isso much more important than
being athletically prepared.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
In my opinion, being athletically prepared, in my
opinion, I think being mentallyprepared is very important as
well as athletically butmentally, because if you
sometimes you can see wherepeople just give up before the
match even started becausethey're not mentally prepared
and they doubt theirself a lot.
So if you don't have the rightmindset and you don't have
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enough like enough belief inyourself that you can win, then
you're not gonna win becauseyou're gonna doubt yourself and
the other person's not andthey're gonna come out on top.
And I think after you lose amatch, thinking that that's like
a forever thing, like yourforever loser, is also a bad
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thing.
I see some of our teammates too.
That hinders them a lot andthey just stop trying.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
What is your pre-match ritual or routine that
gets you in the zone?
She mentioned a little bitabout yours.
What do you guys think yourpre-match ritual is?
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Mine.
I got my little sheet that Iread all my affirmations on Kind
of embarrassing.
But then I take my pre-workoutshot and then I just walk the
halls for like a while.
I don't think I ever sit downat tournaments, I'm always just
walking.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
I usually sit there and I talk to you or Jess, I
talk to my coaches and myteammates and I just try to get
my mind off of it so I don'tscare myself.
Or I just talk about how much Idon't want to do that and I
usually win the matches wheneverI do that.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
So wrestling, you know.
Dan Gable once said, once saidonce you wrestle, you can do
anything else in life.
How does wrestling empowerother aspects of your life?
Speaker 2 (27:09):
when you're stronger, you're able to do stuff you're
not normally able to do, andthen also, like um, I feel a
little safer walking the hallsat school knowing that like I
could probably take somebody ina fight.
So I think that helps.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
I think it helps you build courage and not be afraid
to face things that are hard.
And like to face peopleone-on-one takes a lot of
courage and to know, like I haveto go out there and fight them,
like you're literallyvolunteering to like, like, go
get beat up or be booked up on adaily basis, so I think that
helps a lot if you could comeback and give yourself a younger
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self like um and maybe it'sfrom the start of the season One
piece of advice about wrestling, what would it be?
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Some advice that, looking back on it from where
you started, what kind of advicewould you give yourself?
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Don't be afraid of your teammates, because even if
you haven't met them, they'restill your teammates and they'll
be there for you.
Also, dieting is very importantand nutrition is important.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
I used to come to practice feeling sick all the
time because I wasn't eatingright, and then when I started
finally learning how to cutweight properly and I would eat
the right foods for lunch, thenI felt so much better and I wish
I had known that before,because I probably could have
performed better if I knew thatmy younger self to do a sport at
, because I wouldn't play sports, I like refused, but at the
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beginning of the season, toalways try my best, even when I
felt like I wasn't going to win,and to definitely eat more,
because after our matches Iwould go home and I would be
like starving Because it burns alot of your energy.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Yeah, Now you talked about dieting right and so
looking towards to next year.
What are some of the thingsthat you will do to help you
with your dieting?
Speaker 2 (29:14):
I'm not going to eat the school lunch anymore.
I meal prep and I'll pack mypack.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Oh, pack my lunch and probably cut weight honestly um
, I think that I'll just do thesame thing, except I'll try to
eat more like higher, morefilling things before practice.
I do eat the school lunchbecause some would be real good,
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but I just basically the samething I do this year I make sure
I get a lot of protein and makesure my meals are protein-based
and I have enough carbs to haveenergy for wrestling practice,
and make sure I drink a lot morewater.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
What legacy do you hope to leave behind in the
world of girls wrestling?
Speaker 2 (30:08):
I want my name on the plaque for that scholarship up
on the wall in the school.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
I didn't know there was a plaque for a scholarship,
but you do now.
I hope I also do that and Ihope next year, whenever we get
new girls, I make them feelcomfortable and acclimated to
the environment and help themprosper within the sport and let
them know that it's not like asuper hard or dangerous thing to
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do because a lot of peoplethink it's dangerous.
I don't think it's dangerous.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Especially your grandmother.
Granny thinks it's dangerous,granny thinks it's going to shut
the whole process down.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
My dad thinks if it was like co-ed, he wouldn't let
me do it.
He laughed at me whenever Itold him I was doing wrestling
in the first place.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
I also hope I can be a better leader next year as a
team captain and that the girlswill actually feel comfortable
enough to like tell me thingsand come to me for advice and
like want me to support them.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
That's really powerful.
That's really powerful, and youguys are both juniors, right.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
So you guys are slated to be the seniors on the
team next year, right, yeah,awesome, awesome.
Now I'm going to ask you somefunny questions.
All right, what's the funniestthing that's ever happened to
you during a match or at atournament?
Speaker 2 (31:33):
One time sorry, this is a funny one One time I had a
girl get up close and personal,right next to my neck, in my ear
, and she growled at me.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
She went get back on the floor.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
That scared me.
I did not get back on the floorbut like ugh.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
I don't really think any of it was funny.
I think my favorite time wasone time I was trying to figure
out how to read the board, likewhere it says like who's next.
I went over there and I wastalking to this girl and they
were explaining to me like howto do it and she was like, yeah,
I've been a wrestler for sixyears.
I was like, well, I'm trying tofigure out if I'm next.
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And she was like we're next.
And I was like we.
And she was like we and she'slike, yeah, we're next.
And I was like, uh, oh, my god.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
And then we went out there and it was like a two-man
match and I won.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Do you have any weird superstitions or good luck
charms for competition?
Speaker 2 (32:36):
me.
Yeah, I like to wear singletsum Me.
Yeah, I like to wear singlets?
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Not really, no, I just don't.
I just don't like talk about ittoo much, that's it.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
If you could wrestle any professional athlete, past
or present, who would it be?
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Amit Allure.
She um, she's the olympic worldchampion for the 140 weight
class.
She's so cool.
I follow her on instagram.
I check every post.
I would love to wrestle withher sometime what's her name
again?
Speaker 1 (33:12):
amit allure all right , is it emily or amit amit?
A-m-i-t okay, amit n-n-e-l-O-R.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
All righty.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Amit All right.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Anybody.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
I don't know.
You want to wrestle JordanBurroughs, don't you?
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Who is that?
Who is that?
I don't know who that is.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Jordan Burroughs is an.
Olympian national champion,just an all-around stud, he was.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
He's scary.
I only have one favoriteathlete.
Who is that?
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Paige Beckers.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Would you wrestle Paige?
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Yeah.
I probably wouldn't win, though, because she's super tall.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Paige is a baller.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
No, you'd let her win .
No, she's super tall.
I'm not good at wrestling.
She's like almost six foot.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Oh, Paige is taller than six foot, I think she's
about six foot Paige is tallerthan 6'2".
Speaker 2 (33:59):
She's a basketball player.
She's probably like 6'5".
Speaker 1 (34:01):
She's not that tall.
She plays for UConn.
She's about 6'2", 6'3".
She can shoot.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
I'm 5'2".
Speaker 1 (34:08):
You are not 5'2".
Speaker 3 (34:09):
I am 5'2".
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Oh okay, you look taller than me.
That's why I put you down atlike 5'6 in the program.
I'm going to start padding yourstats like basketball coaches
do.
What songs always get you hypedbefore a match?
What you listening to?
Speaker 3 (34:31):
I listen to a lot of SZA.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
SZA SZA, sza, all right, sza what song.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Dove's in the Wind.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Dove's in the Wind.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Love Language.
It's more calm, but I just likebeing calm before my matches.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
You better not say like Lil Durk or something who
is that?
Speaker 3 (34:52):
No, I'm just messing with you.
Or I listen to A Tribe CalledQuest.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
You listen to Tribe Mm-hmm.
All right, what you know aboutA Tribe Called Quest?
Speaker 3 (35:00):
My dad used to play it when I was little.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
All right.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Mine's not that interesting.
I just listened to like Alex Gor Deftones before usually.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Alex G.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Alex G.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
And Deftones.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
And some Radiohead, you know.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Describe your wrestling style in three words.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Aggressive Fast.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Describe your wrestling style in three words
Aggressive and fast.
Fireman carry Aggressive fastfireman carry Fast aggressive.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
But I'm not like that aggressive.
I'm still gentle Whenever I'maggressive.
I should really work on that.
You told me I should work onthat.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Yeah, I did.
I didn't say it in those termsthough.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
But, and Fun.
I just have fun.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
I agree with that one .
I second that Fun.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Alright, so you guys are the future leaders of the
program, right?
I just have fun.
I agree with that one.
I second that Fun, all right,so you guys are the future
leaders of the program, right?
We talked about making sure.
I think, claire, you mentionedone of your goals is to build
better relationships orfriendships with your teammates,
and I think you said that aswell.
How do you, first of all, howdo you define friendship?
Speaker 2 (36:25):
I think it's just someone that's going to have
your back before or afteranything, and they'll be willing
to support you no matter what.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Someone that's trustworthy and supportive, no
matter what odds you guys are ator how you guys are
relationship-wise.
Someone that's still going tobe there for you, whether
they're mad at you or not.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
So how do you take those things, those concepts
that you guys know that helps.
You have friends that you'vehad and now you incorporate them
into your teammates.
What are some techniques thatyou guys are going to utilize to
get your teammates to be betterfriends or to be better
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teammates?
Speaker 2 (37:16):
I'm probably going to try to actually make them get
along, because they be arguing alot sometimes.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
I just want them to know that they have someone they
can ask for advice for anythingthat will bail them out of a
situation um, this year I justtried to be there for them and
learn things about them thatwould that I could do, that
would make it easier for themand like make them feel more
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comfortable before and duringtheir matches, and how to
reassure them afterwards, andjust the type of what they're
more receptive to.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
How do you deal with when there's conflict on the
team?
How do you work through thoseissues without talking about any
situations or names?
How do you work through thosetypes of situations?
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Out of sight, out of mind.
I ignore them because it's kindof childish.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
But what I just heard you say, though, was going
forward as a leader.
You're going to have to figureout how to pull that in, so what
does that look like?
Speaker 2 (38:33):
I haven't figured that out yet.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
You got some time.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Yeah, I got like about a year to get my plan
ready for these people that areon the team this year, like
whenever they would be in thelocker room too long, I just
come and try to stress theimportance to them of where we
need to be, what we need to bedoing, how that you have
somewhere to be, you have placesto be, people to see you need
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to go, and whenever they wouldget mad at each other, I try to
talk to each individually andcalm them down and like stress
to them that their actions nowwill impact the things in the
future and situations in thefuture, and that it's working
against themselves to be at oddsor do anything reckless just
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because they are at odds, andtry to make them apologize to
each other or at least figureout a solution to the problem.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Now, one of the biggest things that happens
within like schools nowadays isthat there's so many
distractions for you all, notjust in school, but there's so
many distractions in life.
You know, you guys got cellphones, social media.
How do you not allow thosedistractions to get in the way
of what you feel like isimportant?
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Me.
Yeah, I just try to remindmyself that right now is a
period in my life where I havethe ability and the resources to
grow and build for the futureand that everything I, every
brick I place now will make iteasier to pursue what I want to
in the future and make it easieron myself in the future and
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understand that I need to have alot of discipline.
That's something that wrestlinghelped me with was discipline,
because even whenever I didn'twant to go, I still did.
Even whenever I didn't want todo something, I still did.
And whenever it would be likebefore the weight cuts, before
the weight weigh-ins and stuff,I would have to have a lot of
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self-discipline with what I ateand what I did, because my
family likes to eat out a lot.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Yeah, weigh-ins are definitely rough.
I just remind myself that I'mgoing to be disappointed in
myself later if I don't do whatI'm supposed to do and put
everything else aside and finishwhat's been started or even win
a tournament.
I just know that I don't wantto be put in a position where
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someone else is getting theirhand raised and I'm not, so I
just set everything aside andprepare for that.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Self-care.
You guys spend a lot of timewrestling and school and all the
other working and helping outat home and doing all this stuff
.
Now how do you guys manage yourown self-care?
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Like do you mean like showering?
Speaker 1 (41:35):
No, I mean like just taking time for yourself, like
just reading a book or listeningto movies or watching
television, and just taking sometime for you that's not
centered around anythingstructured yeah, I think that's
important.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
I think that you need to carve out a block of time,
like every night, just to dosomething for yourself what do
you do?
I I like to read and I alsokind of like to crochet too.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
So you make hats and stuff and and like blankets,
hats sweaters, just for fun.
So did I hear Claire say she'sgoing to make us a scarf?
Did I hear?
Should I be expecting an OmegaPsi Phi scarf at some point?
Speaker 2 (42:18):
I don't know if you're going to want to wear
them.
They don't turn out too good.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
I just make sure to indulge in my hobbies and the
things I know help me keepmyself grounded and calm and
help me connect with myself,because sometimes I get a little
dissociated whenever I getstressed out, and I get stressed
out a lot because I'm put in alot of stressful situations on a
daily basis, almost a constant.
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So I like to draw and do art.
I'm really good at it, and Iread sometimes and I meditate
and I journal and I reflect onthings within myself and try to
get closer to myself.
And I I read the Biblesometimes and I play with my pet
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hermit crabs too.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
How many do you have?
I have two, All right.
What are their names?
I?
Speaker 3 (43:15):
was about to ask that Jamar and Peekaboo.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Okay, that's cute.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
They're giant Like they're the size of my hand.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
How long have you had them for?
Speaker 3 (43:26):
Since July.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
Dang Dang Okay.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
All right.
So here's an opportunity foryou guys, so I'm going to put
you on the spot.
You guys get to ask Claire acouple questions, you get to ask
Ambry a couple questions.
While you guys are thinkingabout that, I'm going to throw a
couple out for you yourfavorite musician, your favorite
book that you like to read andthe favorite TV show that you
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guys are watching.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
Favorite musician Probably Mitski.
Favorite Mitski Mitski.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
Alright, how do you spell it?
Speaker 2 (43:59):
M-I, t-s-k-i, alright Mitski, I'm going to look it up
.
She's very poetic.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
I alright, mitski, I'm gonna look it up she's very
poetic alright.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
I love Mitski TV shows.
I like to watch Breaking Bad.
I watch that with my friendMaddie a lot.
That's like our favorite show.
What else did you say?
Book, book, favorite book myfavorite book was probably oh,
let me think I forgot the title.
I see the book, but I don'tknow what it's called Dang it
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the Glass Castle.
I think the author is JeanetteWalls, but I cannot remember
right now.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
All right Book, music and TV show.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
Two of my favorite musicians are Jhene Aiko and SZA
.
I also listen to a lot ofBeyonce too.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
The country songs too .
Speaker 3 (45:01):
Not really.
I like Sweet Honeybuckin',though that's one of my favorite
ones that are her country songs, and then my favorite ones that
are country songs, All right.
And then my favorite show.
It's a show from when I waslittle.
It's called Octonauts and it'slike marine animals, it's like
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land animals.
Go and help marine animals andit helps you learn about marine
animals.
I watch it all the time I inclass too actually what was your
favorite?
Octonaut, oh my god um quasi,that's mine too.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
Oh my gosh, I love quasi.
And um, oh my gosh, what's thepenguin's name?
I forgot pedro, right, yeah,yeah, I love ped, I love them
both.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
And my favorite book?
I don't really know, BecauseI've read a lot of books.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
What's your favorite?
Speaker 3 (46:00):
genre of book.
I like romance books a lot.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Ooh okay, but oh my gosh, it's just one book.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
I, for I, forget what it's called.
This is like a problem.
It's basically about a man andhe lives inside his mind, but he
doesn't want to be alive.
Most of the time it's calledlike I forget, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
The author was no, it's japanese.
That's why I can't remember, isthat the author, because I feel
like I know what book you'retalking about.
Yeah, no Longer Human.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yeah.
No Longer Human.
It's like I read it duringwinter.
It's a very depressing book.
It is.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
It's super real.
Speaker 3 (46:53):
It's like but I really liked it.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
It's nice to see the words that you feel like put on
paper.
All right, a couple questionsfor each other.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
Hmm, hmm, does it have to be Wrestling related?
Speaker 1 (47:05):
As long as it's appropriate.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
I don't want to start , I don't have any, I don't know
.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
Is it hard going to school With your twin sister?
Speaker 2 (47:17):
Yes, I'm the least popular, I'm not the popular one
, so everybody knows her and Ihave to follow her around Like,
as she greets, like Herthousands of friends.
It's annoying you, like herthousands of friends.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
It's annoying.
It's her thousands of friends.
That's interesting.
That's a whole nother podcastwithin itself.
The role of a twin right.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
Yes, oh, shoot, I forgot what I was going to ask
you got something else, fire itout.
Speaker 3 (47:55):
I know that you've gone like over the past few
years you've worked on learningabout yourself.
Was that hard?
Because I know you and Lucy areso different but you're exposed
to her in a constant and youguys have similar friends.
But you're exposed to her in aconstant and you guys have
similar friends, but you're sodifferent from her.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
I just think a lot.
It's like I like to sit andwrite papers and I do a lot of
self-reflection.
Honestly, it's just that'sactually a hobby of mine is to
sit and write about topics Iknow and just to think about
them I don't know.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
You guys both sound like poets, so this is going to
be a shameless plug.
Speaker 3 (48:34):
You guys should join the Wayne.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
County.
Speaker 3 (48:35):
Writers.
Speaker 1 (48:35):
I was a part of it.
Yeah, you should come back.
I'll think about it you got anyquestions for Ambria hmm, uh, I
don't know how to word it.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
I feel like you're a very mature person.
Speaker 3 (48:54):
What do you think it took to get there, just being
put in a lot of situations thatrequired me to step up and take
place of roles I shouldn't havehad to be put in, but I overcame
that anyways and understandingthe consequences of actions and
understanding that everythingdoes matter, like every little
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thing does matter.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
How else do you feel like that helped you to this day
and age?
Speaker 3 (49:22):
I feel like I'm a very positive person now because
I uplift myself, but I also tryto uplift others whenever I can
.
Even if it's simple, smallthings that can change a lot
about how someone feels aboutthemselves and how their day is
going, and about someone's life.
If there's something you say tosomeone one day could be their
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motivant throughout theirlifetime to follow their passion
or be themselves or connectwith others.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
I agree.
I always see you talking tosomebody in the hallway so I
know what effect do you feellike wrestling had on any
outside relationships that youhad before?
Speaker 3 (50:05):
Well, I think it helped me to stand up for myself
and stop being friends withpeople who very obviously held a
secret animosity towards meespecially because it was not
very secret and I just let a lotof stuff slide and a lot of
comments slide.
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Let a lot of stuff slide and alot of comments slide, but I
started sticking up for myselfand not caring as much or like
at all about losing people,because I was more focused on
wrestling.
I understood that if peoplewere really there for me, they
wouldn't be doing that in thefirst place and I shouldn't want
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people to like.
I shouldn't be worried aboutlosing people and I shouldn't
want people around me who actlike that and treat me like that
.
Speaker 1 (50:55):
Well, ladies, thank you for this time you guys have
spent with us Before we leave.
There was always one thing thatwe would always shout out as a
group Guys, let's, I want tohear, let's hear it real quick,
I start.
Who wants to start it off?
Speaker 2 (51:10):
the mantra yes, I got you, I am only one.
I am only one, but still I amone, but still I am one.
I cannot do everything.
I cannot do everything, butstill I can do something, but
still I can do something.
And because I cannot doeverything and because I cannot
do everything.
Speaker 3 (51:24):
I will not refuse.
I do everything.
I will not refuse, I will notrefuse To do, to do the
something, the something that wecan do, that we can do.
Speaker 1 (51:31):
Out of the Mouth of Babes, a podcast for our future
leaders.
Thank you all.
Welcome to Out of the Mouth of Babes, the podcast for
our future leaders.
Today, we have two exceptionalyoung ladies in the room.
I'm not going to belabor this.
I'm going to allow them tointroduce themselves, starting
to my left.
What is your first and lastname, school you go to and all
of the interesting things you'reinvolved in, including your
academic performance?
Go ahead.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I'm Claire Abbott.
I go to Richmond High School,I'm a junior, I'm in the
National Honor Society and I'm awrestler.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
All right, next to my right.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
My name is Embria Tate.
I go to Richmond High School.
I'm a junior and I'm in theacademic competition team and I
do wrestling and track.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Awesome, awesome.
So you guys are, uh, fairlyactive in school, so I'm just
going to get right to it.
You know, one of the mostimportant things is that and
that has happened within thelast year is that ihsa has
sanctioned girls wrestling andum, and so it is uh, it is one
of the the sports.
I think it's a 90s uh, not sureexactly what number sport, but
(01:01):
I I know that it's.
It's now, um, a sanctionedsport.
So, with that being said,richmond had an inaugural team
this year.
You ladies were a part of it.
So can you tell me a little bitabout yourselves and how did
you get into wrestling?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
I started two years ago in South Dakota.
It became a big part of my lifeand I started it because I was
kind of lonely and I needed ateam to be with and it really
helped me and also it made mestronger and the mentality you
get from wrestling is just superimportant and you carry it with
you every day.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
so all right.
What about you, amber?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
I started wrestling this year at Richmond High
School and I just joined itbecause I wanted to be a part of
a team and on a sport and noneof the other sports.
I'm not really a team sporttype person and I hadn't gotten
into track yet and I felt likeit would help me be more
balanced within myself, becauseI'm usually more gentle and
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quiet, and it helped bring out amore assertive side of myself.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
All right.
So what was your initialreaction when you learned that
Richmond was starting a girlswrestling team?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
I was really excited because I had to wrestle on the
guys team the year before, so Iwas happy to have girls
teammates again that I couldlike hang out with in the locker
room and stuff.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
I didn't really know until you came up to me at a
football game and told me and Ididn't really know anything
about wrestling beforehand likeboys wrestling or girls
wrestling but I thought itsounded like something fun to do
and something within mycapabilities.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
All right.
So you know there was a lot ofups and downs this year.
I mean, we had a lot of success, but we also had some failures
and there are some things that,looking back on, I know we would
definitely change.
But what was the mostchallenging aspect of being part
of this inaugural team?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Not having a set space to practice at, because we
were all over the place.
We were up in the guys'wrestling room and then we were
down in the hallway and theneventually we got like a storage
closet to practice in wrestlingroom and then we were down in
the hallway and then eventuallywe got like a storage closet to
practice in.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
so I think that was tough because we were hitting
our heads on the wall um, Ithink the hardest part was
really learning it, because itwas a new sport for me and
developing a mentality thatwould be more beneficial for it,
because at first I was reallyscared.
Before every single match Iwould get really scared and
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start crying and by the end ofthe matches like the end of the
season, I didn't do that anymore.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
How has wrestling impacted your self-esteem?
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I think it brought it up.
You have to have a lot ofconfidence to be able to wrestle
in those tiny little singletsand you know, you know always
working hard and like workingout and stuff.
It definitely boosts yourconfidence being able to like
know that you can fight somebodyor at least like tussle with
them yeah, I agree on that but,I was thinking about that
earlier.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
It definitely did help my self esteem and self
concept and confidence becausewhenever we go away for
wrestling meets I get told I waspretty a lot and told that I
was really good at wrestling.
And I had other girls come upto me and tell me that they were
disappointed.
They didn't get to wrestle mebecause they really wanted to
and I seemed aggressive and agood opponent.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
All right, really wanted to and I seemed like
aggressive and a good opponent.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
all right, so can you share a memorable moment or
experience from this year?
Um, I think when we had thatteam pizza party and we were
over at Geneva's house, we gotin the hot tub, we took pictures
.
It was a good team bondingexperience.
I had a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
I think, um, I think the meet where I didn't get to
sleep the night before, I thinkthat was my most memorable like
for good and bad reasons one,because I got up to go tell you
I couldn't fall asleep and thenyou're like, your match started.
This is your match.
I had to borrow someone else'sheadgear and I had to get right
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into the match and then afterthat you took a really funny
picture that Kiesha posted andit's like really up close.
And I think something else thatwas memorable is whenever you
told us that you were part of afrat and you did the bark thing.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
The bark thing.
The bark thing, that'shilarious.
Oh man, you had, you are funny.
Uh, part of part of um clairementioned some team bonding
activities.
Um share a little bit about theimportance of those types of
activities for a team and someof the other ones that you guys
also did me either one I can gofirst, I think it helped build
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our team a lot better than a lotof our other schools teams.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
We get along very well and I talk to most of my
teammates on a daily basis and Ithink it helped us see each
other as more than justteammates and more as friends
and had a support system so thatwhenever we went and had
wrestling meets you didn't feelalone.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
You feel like you had someone to talk to if you were
nervous or worried aboutanything yeah, I never talked to
anybody on the team before Imet them and then I started
practicing with them and now Isee them in the hallway and I
get to say hi and stuff likethat, and I think it's important
because you're also likewrestling with these people at
practice.
So if you don't know them, thenit's so awkward.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Oh my gosh.
And we would go to Saturdaytournaments and be together for
hours on end.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
And then we'd have the team bonding days where we'd
go to the movies, work theconcessions and then like
Whenever we went to Buffalo WildWings too, that was good, and
they screamed at the top oftheir lungs.
That was embarrassing Awesomeawesome.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
How do you prepare mentally and physically for a
match?
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Mentally, I have this like checklist I read off
myself every time before I goout that says like I earned this
place, like you're wrestlingfor a reason, you've wrestled
for two years, like you're meantto be here and then, physically
, you just gotta get, likehonestly, some good sleep and
that's it for me um, yours isusually very different, because
you usually like isolateyourself from everybody else.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
I usually drink something like usually it's
Gatorade, like electrolyteGatorade, so I don't get dizzy.
And then I just talk to myteammates until it's time,
because if I think about it toomuch then I I'm going to psych
myself out.
And then I just make sure Isleep the night before and eat
something really heavy andprotein, because I can't eat
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before weigh-ins.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
What is something that you would tell young women
who are considering joiningwrestling?
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Definitely go for it and don't be scared.
Wrestling is a sport where youdon't have time to like be
afraid and like stay back in thecorner.
It's something that you have tolike go out and do so.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
If you decide to do it, go for it you should
definitely try it out at leastonce and you'll probably be good
at it, because it's more ofjust learning like spatial
awareness, and it's it.
It builds a really good supportsystem and it changes you a lot
as a person and gives you astronger mentality now,
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unfortunately, people have theirown opinions about, like the
sport of wrestling, particularlygirls wrestling.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
How do you face stereotypes or misconceptions
about female wrestlers and howdo you deal with it?
Now I don't want to hear yousay you slam them down and you
pin them, but how do you facethem and deal with that?
Speaker 3 (08:53):
What stereotypes?
Speaker 1 (08:54):
I don't know.
I mean there are misconceptionsand stereotypes about women
wrestlers or wrestling ingeneral.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Well, my grandma she told me that she didn't want me
to wrestle and that I shouldquit wrestling.
This was like right beforeregionals too, because she said
that I'm going to like getslammed down wrong and like be
infertile or something.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Infertile.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Yes, yes, like promise and like people think
that if they wrestle they'll getlike super buff and like super
ripped.
But I promise you that takes alot of hard work, like a lot of
hard work.
It's like if you took a scienceclass and thought you were
accidentally going to end up atNASA.
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Like it takes hard work to dothat and it doesn't make you any
like being a wrestler a girlwrestler especially.
It doesn't make you any lessfeminine than you are outside or
before you started, because itjust gives you more strength.
It doesn't change who you areand make you less of a girl.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
I hear a lot of guys say that girls wrestling isn't
as hard, but I know that heathercole would beat the crap out of
any of them any day and girlswrestling is just as hard.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Like they have 17 percent more testosterone on
this, so obviously they're goingto be a little stronger, but we
can hit moves just as good andI feel like archie said that he
would not come back and wrestlewith us, like he said that we
just are too, because I feellike we have to compensate a
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little bit for lack of strengthby being quicker and more
aggressive with what we do.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
So you mean the young boy that came down to the
wrestling room the one time andgot his butt looked and that
y'all beat up on for for about agood 35, 40 minutes.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
That little kid that was talking trash right before.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
I find him in the hallway.
I be like Archie, you comewrestle with us.
And he's like, no, I'm notdoing that.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
He said I couldn't beat him.
And then after he said, sorry,I doubted you because I had his
butt on the floor.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
What what are your ultimate goals in wrestling,
like for you, what are yourultimate goals?
What do you see yourself in,let's say, into high school
college Olympics Like what doyou see yourselves?
Speaker 2 (11:14):
I really want to wrestle at Manchester.
I think it's just a really goodschool.
It's a D2, so if I could getinto that for an athletic
scholarship that would be great.
If not, it's already got me theopportunity to win a
scholarship from Richmond anyway, and it has shaped my mindset
for the future.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
So yeah, I'd love to get like a scholarship for it,
because I really do want to doit in college.
That's one thing I'm very sadabout that I started this junior
and not before because I thinkit would have been really
beneficial if I had done itfreshman, sophomore, junior and
not before, because I think itwould have been really
beneficial if I had done itfreshman, sophomore, junior and
senior.
And I don't want to only haveone season left.
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I want to continue doing it andI hope that going forward, I
just continue and I really wantto win like at least a few
tournaments.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
I think you can do that.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
I got second three times.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
That Centerville tournament is calling your name.
Next year it is in the crowns.
Oh yeah, the crowns.
We're all going to have a crownby then.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
I say the state championship is going to be
calling your name too.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
State championship is calling my name for sure.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
I really do want to go to state.
I'm working on it right now.
You guys were just one win awayfrom going to state this year
that was so crazy, honestly,Because I didn't think I was
going to make it past the firstespecially because she was tall
and I'm not good at wrestlingtall girls.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
So five of you went to regionals and again all of
you at least half of you wereone match away from going to
state.
Tell me how you felt on thatbus ride going home.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
I felt cheated because the ref made some pretty
bad calls and it kind of messedup my mindset in the match.
But other than that Idefinitely felt like I needed to
work harder in the future.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
I felt really proud of myself because I did make it
past the first round.
I made it to the second one,which is one match from state,
and the girl that I went againstshe cut down 15 pounds to be in
my weight class, so I didn'treally feel like it spoke on me
as a person.
I just feel like she was morewell-prepared and she had been
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doing it for a long time.
Her record was like 3 to 23.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
30 to 30?
.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Was it.
No, I'm asking you, I didn'tknow it was like 3 to 23 for the
season, so she had been doingreally good the whole time and
she was a senior, so I didn'tfeel like it said anything about
me.
I felt really proud of myselfbecause I made it that far my
first season, my first time everplaying a sport, so I was
really happy and you were in asituation where the week before
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the young lady got injured andwouldn't and didn't continue,
which put you in second place.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
And then you're in a position where you were up, you
know to somebody that you hadlost to, I think what seven, one
and um, and then there was somequestionable, some questionable
things that happened and thenshe ended up circling back
around.
So I'm sure that those momentswill motivate you and push you
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to get to the next step.
If you could speak to a groupof young ladies, young girls,
right now, what would your salespitch be about?
Wrestling, what would you sayto them?
You know a bunch of fourth,fifth and sixth graders right
now.
What would you say to them toget them motivated to wrestle?
Speaker 3 (14:44):
You'll have lots of fun, you'll learn how to beat
people up and you'll build agood community and it'll open a
lot of opportunities for you inthe future that you otherwise
wouldn't have access to, anddoing things in general,
especially if they're outside ofyour comfort zone, can open
doors to things and interestsyou never knew that you had
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definitely.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
I would tell them that it's a great team sport,
even if it's an individual sport, and also that their confidence
will go up and they'll have.
They won't doubt themselveswhen it comes to a situation
where they need to be betterthan an opponent or somebody
else.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
If you had to speak to the AD or the principal or
school board member, what wouldyou say to them about wrestling
and why it's important tocontinue to support wrestling?
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Because it's the coolest sport out there, I would
say, because it's not likeother sports where it's just
starting off and it's anindividual sport.
So the support that we get fromthe school can determine how
well we do in the match, becauseit's just you on the mat
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representing your school.
So the more funds and the moresupport we have from the school,
the better that we can do andbetter we can train and prepare
for these matches and win andset records for the school and
stuff.
And I think that it's a goodinvestment for the school to
make, especially since it's juststarting off.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
All right, claire.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Well, I think everything Ambria said pretty
much sums it up.
But yeah, they offer plenty ofscholarships for wrestlers, and
having that contact with theircoaches too and having somebody
to lean on is very important forum people our age Cause they'll
get into a lot of trouble ifthey don't have a parental
figure telling them like good orbad things to do.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Especially cause.
Most of them don't listen totheir parents, because by the
time you're in high school,you're at odds with your parents
most of the time.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Yeah, but hey, if you get kicked off the team team,
you got to do what they say sowhat does wrestling mean to you
personally?
Speaker 1 (17:04):
talk to what.
Just what does that?
What does it mean to youpersonally?
Speaker 2 (17:08):
to me, it means the ability to like triumph over
hardships, because I've put in,been put in some pretty rough
situations in my life and beingable to come out on top as a
winner through all of them hasjust changed my perspective.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
To me, it means facing my fears, even whenever I
don't want to, and finishingthings even whenever it's hard,
and being able to push throughwhenever I don't feel like I can
win, and having something it'sknowing that's determined on how
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, how well I do, and that I'mnot getting off the mat until
one of us wins and I determinewho wins do you all remember
your first wrestling match?
Speaker 2 (17:58):
yes, first wrestling match your very first wrestling
match yes yes, tell me what wasgoing on in your mind a lot of
nothing, honestly, because I washopping, I was coming off my
two feet, I was hopping in acircle, but that was the first
match I ever won too, so thatwas that made me go bonkers.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
That was insane um, my first match.
I wasn't really scared beforebecause I don't know.
I was just very calm.
I'm usually very calm and I wasjust there for fun at that
point, so and I used the movethat I had been working on main,
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like focusing on which was ahigh c, and I performed it and I
won and it was like a reallyshort match how do you stay
motivated after a tough loss orsetback?
Speaker 2 (18:52):
um, that's hard because after, um, the weekend
where I lost a pretty bigtournament and I didn't even
place, I was in a mental slumpfor like at least a week and to
get out of it, honestly, I justkept getting out of bed and
going to practices.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
That's the only way that it helped Probably my anger
with myself and the fact that Ilost and just knowing that I
can improve and having somethingto improve and analyzing what
went wrong and working on notdoing it anymore.
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And there was one tournament Ithink it was Beach Grove where I
only won one of my threematches, but I wasn't even upset
because I got past theelimination rounds and I knew
that I went against girls whohave way more experience than me
.
Especially remembering thatwhenever I would beat girls who
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had been going for like three tosix years and had been
wrestling for three to six yearsreally helped me get through
that, because it let me like itmade me remember that it doesn't
matter how much experience theyhave and stuff or how much
experience I have.
I can change the outcome nexttime.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
What's the hardest part about balancing wrestling
with school work or otherresponsibilities that you guys
have?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
finding the time to do anything and then also having
the energy to do it like you'llget out of practice at like six
.
You'll be home by like 6 15,then you got a shower and then
get to work on homework for anhour, and so, honestly, it's
kind of tough to have a jobduring wrestling season um, yeah
, I think getting homeespecially from tournaments
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really late, but I don't.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
I don't really do homework at home.
I have study periods, so Iwould just do my chores and
stuff and I make sure that Istay on top of stuff so that I
can have extra time afterwrestling and wrestling was like
pretty much the only thing Iwas doing the entire winter so
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you know in every wrestlingseason you will have a tough
match or a high stakes match.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
How do you mentally prepare for that?
How do you prepare for thatyoung lady that you know is a
state qualifier or somebodythat's beat you before?
How do you prepare for thosetypes of matches?
Speaker 2 (21:32):
I just tell myself that I want it more and that she
doesn't want it as much as I do, and it just gives me so much
energy and I just go out thereand I tell myself, if I can't
win, I'm going to give her onehard time trying to get her to
win.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
I usually just don't think about it until I get up
there and I just remember that Ihave to do it.
And I can't just say I don'twant to wrestle, I don't want to
do this match, I can't do that,so I have to do it, want to do
this match like I can't do that,so I have to do it.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
And it doesn't matter who has more experience or if
she is a state finalist, becauseshe never wrestled me before,
so talk to me a little bit aboutsisterhood and on a wrestling
team, how do you guys definesisterhood and your expectations
for sisterhood like what do youexpect from your teammates?
Speaker 2 (22:19):
I know that whenever I go out on the mat I've got at
least a couple people cheeringfor me, and that when I lose
I've got some people trying tolift me back up.
I just kind of expect myteammates to just be nice and be
willing to practice hard andlike work hard for something.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Well, I worked not worked hard but I really focused
on building individualrelationships with each of my
teammates and, I think, havingthe support because my family's
my family didn't come to any ofthe matches and probably won't,
like my sister came to one ofthem and that was when I had to
wrestle up, so I didn't win thatmatch, but I think having the
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support and having thereassurance there afterwards if
you do lose is really a greattool.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
What's your favorite wrestling move and why?
Speaker 2 (23:11):
I love a fireman's carry because it's so easy to
set up and hit in a match andmost people fall for it.
It's like my bread and butter.
I can just hit it so easy.
And then also, I've never hitone before in a match, but I
want to hit a spladle.
I love seeing people getspladles hit on them because
it's just so funny.
And I want to do it on a guysometime, like when I'm in a
guy's tournament and I want tohit a spladle.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
I really like high Cs because they're really easy for
me to perform, because they'reone quick motion and I have a
lot of strength, especially inmy legs.
So I just have to pick them upafter and just perform the
movement.
But towards the end of theseason a double leg blast was my
favorite because I think it'smore fun.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Do you prefer aggressive, fast-paced matches
or do you prefer more technical,strategic bouts?
Speaker 2 (24:08):
I gotta say if the person's worse than me, I want
to be more fast and aggressive,but if they're equal, then I
want it to be a nice long matchso that I can feel good about it
after um, considering I got a14 second pin at one of our
tournaments.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
I don't like long matches.
I just I just want to win.
I just want to win the matchand have it be over.
So I like aggressive and fastmatches, especially because most
people don't expect that fromme because of how I carry myself
.
Whenever I do be aggressive andfast, it catches them off guard
.
I probably won a few matches Iotherwise wouldn't have won just
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from doing that you know, inwrestling you talk a lot about
mental toughness.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
How important is it to be mentally tough compared to
physically tough or physicalhaving physical strength?
Speaker 2 (24:57):
if you don't have the mental capacity to be able to
build yourself back up after abad match, you're not going to
get any better.
Because you're not going tohave the motivation to practice,
you're not going to have themotivation to go work out after
and when you get to that nexttournament.
If you're still in that funk,you're not going to perform well
.
So being mentally prepared isso much more important than
being athletically prepared.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
In my opinion, being athletically prepared, in my
opinion, I think being mentallyprepared is very important as
well as athletically butmentally, because if you
sometimes you can see wherepeople just give up before the
match even started becausethey're not mentally prepared
and they doubt theirself a lot.
So if you don't have the rightmindset and you don't have
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enough like enough belief inyourself that you can win, then
you're not gonna win becauseyou're gonna doubt yourself and
the other person's not andthey're gonna come out on top.
And I think after you lose amatch, thinking that that's like
a forever thing, like yourforever loser, is also a bad
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thing.
I see some of our teammates too.
That hinders them a lot andthey just stop trying.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
What is your pre-match ritual or routine that
gets you in the zone?
She mentioned a little bitabout yours.
What do you guys think yourpre-match ritual is?
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Mine.
I got my little sheet that Iread all my affirmations on Kind
of embarrassing.
But then I take my pre-workoutshot and then I just walk the
halls for like a while.
I don't think I ever sit downat tournaments, I'm always just
walking.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
I usually sit there and I talk to you or Jess, I
talk to my coaches and myteammates and I just try to get
my mind off of it so I don'tscare myself.
Or I just talk about how much Idon't want to do that and I
usually win the matches wheneverI do that.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
So wrestling, you know.
Dan Gable once said, once saidonce you wrestle, you can do
anything else in life.
How does wrestling empowerother aspects of your life?
Speaker 2 (27:09):
when you're stronger, you're able to do stuff you're
not normally able to do, andthen also, like um, I feel a
little safer walking the hallsat school knowing that like I
could probably take somebody ina fight.
So I think that helps.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
I think it helps you build courage and not be afraid
to face things that are hard.
And like to face peopleone-on-one takes a lot of
courage and to know, like I haveto go out there and fight them,
like you're literallyvolunteering to like, like, go
get beat up or be booked up on adaily basis, so I think that
helps a lot if you could comeback and give yourself a younger
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self like um and maybe it'sfrom the start of the season One
piece of advice about wrestling, what would it be?
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Some advice that, looking back on it from where
you started, what kind of advicewould you give yourself?
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Don't be afraid of your teammates, because even if
you haven't met them, they'restill your teammates and they'll
be there for you.
Also, dieting is very importantand nutrition is important.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
I used to come to practice feeling sick all the
time because I wasn't eatingright, and then when I started
finally learning how to cutweight properly and I would eat
the right foods for lunch, thenI felt so much better and I wish
I had known that before,because I probably could have
performed better if I knew thatmy younger self to do a sport at
, because I wouldn't play sports, I like refused, but at the
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beginning of the season, toalways try my best, even when I
felt like I wasn't going to win,and to definitely eat more,
because after our matches Iwould go home and I would be
like starving Because it burns alot of your energy.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Yeah, Now you talked about dieting right and so
looking towards to next year.
What are some of the thingsthat you will do to help you
with your dieting?
Speaker 2 (29:14):
I'm not going to eat the school lunch anymore.
I meal prep and I'll pack mypack.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Oh, pack my lunch and probably cut weight honestly um
, I think that I'll just do thesame thing, except I'll try to
eat more like higher, morefilling things before practice.
I do eat the school lunchbecause some would be real good,
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but I just basically the samething I do this year I make sure
I get a lot of protein and makesure my meals are protein-based
and I have enough carbs to haveenergy for wrestling practice,
and make sure I drink a lot morewater.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
What legacy do you hope to leave behind in the
world of girls wrestling?
Speaker 2 (30:08):
I want my name on the plaque for that scholarship up
on the wall in the school.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
I didn't know there was a plaque for a scholarship,
but you do now.
I hope I also do that and Ihope next year, whenever we get
new girls, I make them feelcomfortable and acclimated to
the environment and help themprosper within the sport and let
them know that it's not like asuper hard or dangerous thing to
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do because a lot of peoplethink it's dangerous.
I don't think it's dangerous.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Especially your grandmother.
Granny thinks it's dangerous,granny thinks it's going to shut
the whole process down.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
My dad thinks if it was like co-ed, he wouldn't let
me do it.
He laughed at me whenever Itold him I was doing wrestling
in the first place.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
I also hope I can be a better leader next year as a
team captain and that the girlswill actually feel comfortable
enough to like tell me thingsand come to me for advice and
like want me to support them.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
That's really powerful.
That's really powerful, and youguys are both juniors, right.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
So you guys are slated to be the seniors on the
team next year, right, yeah,awesome, awesome.
Now I'm going to ask you somefunny questions.
All right, what's the funniestthing that's ever happened to
you during a match or at atournament?
Speaker 2 (31:33):
One time sorry, this is a funny one One time I had a
girl get up close and personal,right next to my neck, in my ear
, and she growled at me.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
She went get back on the floor.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
That scared me.
I did not get back on the floorbut like ugh.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
I don't really think any of it was funny.
I think my favorite time wasone time I was trying to figure
out how to read the board, likewhere it says like who's next.
I went over there and I wastalking to this girl and they
were explaining to me like howto do it and she was like, yeah,
I've been a wrestler for sixyears.
I was like, well, I'm trying tofigure out if I'm next.
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And she was like we're next.
And I was like we.
And she was like we and she'slike, yeah, we're next.
And I was like, uh, oh, my god.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
And then we went out there and it was like a two-man
match and I won.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Do you have any weird superstitions or good luck
charms for competition?
Speaker 2 (32:36):
me.
Yeah, I like to wear singletsum Me.
Yeah, I like to wear singlets?
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Not really, no, I just don't.
I just don't like talk about ittoo much, that's it.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
If you could wrestle any professional athlete, past
or present, who would it be?
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Amit Allure.
She um, she's the olympic worldchampion for the 140 weight
class.
She's so cool.
I follow her on instagram.
I check every post.
I would love to wrestle withher sometime what's her name
again?
Speaker 1 (33:12):
amit allure all right , is it emily or amit amit?
A-m-i-t okay, amit n-n-e-l-O-R.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
All righty.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Amit All right.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Anybody.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
I don't know.
You want to wrestle JordanBurroughs, don't you?
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Who is that?
Who is that?
I don't know who that is.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Jordan Burroughs is an.
Olympian national champion,just an all-around stud, he was.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
He's scary.
I only have one favoriteathlete.
Who is that?
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Paige Beckers.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Would you wrestle Paige?
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Yeah.
I probably wouldn't win, though, because she's super tall.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Paige is a baller.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
No, you'd let her win .
No, she's super tall.
I'm not good at wrestling.
She's like almost six foot.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Oh, Paige is taller than six foot, I think she's
about six foot Paige is tallerthan 6'2".
Speaker 2 (33:59):
She's a basketball player.
She's probably like 6'5".
Speaker 1 (34:01):
She's not that tall.
She plays for UConn.
She's about 6'2", 6'3".
She can shoot.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
I'm 5'2".
Speaker 1 (34:08):
You are not 5'2".
Speaker 3 (34:09):
I am 5'2".
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Oh okay, you look taller than me.
That's why I put you down atlike 5'6 in the program.
I'm going to start padding yourstats like basketball coaches
do.
What songs always get you hypedbefore a match?
What you listening to?
Speaker 3 (34:31):
I listen to a lot of SZA.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
SZA SZA, sza, all right, sza what song.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Dove's in the Wind.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Dove's in the Wind.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Love Language.
It's more calm, but I just likebeing calm before my matches.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
You better not say like Lil Durk or something who
is that?
Speaker 3 (34:52):
No, I'm just messing with you.
Or I listen to A Tribe CalledQuest.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
You listen to Tribe Mm-hmm.
All right, what you know aboutA Tribe Called Quest?
Speaker 3 (35:00):
My dad used to play it when I was little.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
All right.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Mine's not that interesting.
I just listened to like Alex Gor Deftones before usually.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Alex G.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Alex G.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
And Deftones.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
And some Radiohead, you know.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Describe your wrestling style in three words.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Aggressive Fast.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Describe your wrestling style in three words
Aggressive and fast.
Fireman carry Aggressive fastfireman carry Fast aggressive.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
But I'm not like that aggressive.
I'm still gentle Whenever I'maggressive.
I should really work on that.
You told me I should work onthat.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Yeah, I did.
I didn't say it in those termsthough.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
But, and Fun.
I just have fun.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
I agree with that one .
I second that Fun.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Alright, so you guys are the future leaders of the
program, right?
I just have fun.
I agree with that one.
I second that Fun, all right,so you guys are the future
leaders of the program, right?
We talked about making sure.
I think, claire, you mentionedone of your goals is to build
better relationships orfriendships with your teammates,
and I think you said that aswell.
How do you, first of all, howdo you define friendship?
Speaker 2 (36:25):
I think it's just someone that's going to have
your back before or afteranything, and they'll be willing
to support you no matter what.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Someone that's trustworthy and supportive, no
matter what odds you guys are ator how you guys are
relationship-wise.
Someone that's still going tobe there for you, whether
they're mad at you or not.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
So how do you take those things, those concepts
that you guys know that helps.
You have friends that you'vehad and now you incorporate them
into your teammates.
What are some techniques thatyou guys are going to utilize to
get your teammates to be betterfriends or to be better
(37:12):
teammates?
Speaker 2 (37:16):
I'm probably going to try to actually make them get
along, because they be arguing alot sometimes.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
I just want them to know that they have someone they
can ask for advice for anythingthat will bail them out of a
situation um, this year I justtried to be there for them and
learn things about them thatwould that I could do, that
would make it easier for themand like make them feel more
(37:45):
comfortable before and duringtheir matches, and how to
reassure them afterwards, andjust the type of what they're
more receptive to.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
How do you deal with when there's conflict on the
team?
How do you work through thoseissues without talking about any
situations or names?
How do you work through thosetypes of situations?
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Out of sight, out of mind.
I ignore them because it's kindof childish.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
But what I just heard you say, though, was going
forward as a leader.
You're going to have to figureout how to pull that in, so what
does that look like?
Speaker 2 (38:33):
I haven't figured that out yet.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
You got some time.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Yeah, I got like about a year to get my plan
ready for these people that areon the team this year, like
whenever they would be in thelocker room too long, I just
come and try to stress theimportance to them of where we
need to be, what we need to bedoing, how that you have
somewhere to be, you have placesto be, people to see you need
(38:56):
to go, and whenever they wouldget mad at each other, I try to
talk to each individually andcalm them down and like stress
to them that their actions nowwill impact the things in the
future and situations in thefuture, and that it's working
against themselves to be at oddsor do anything reckless just
(39:18):
because they are at odds, andtry to make them apologize to
each other or at least figureout a solution to the problem.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Now, one of the biggest things that happens
within like schools nowadays isthat there's so many
distractions for you all, notjust in school, but there's so
many distractions in life.
You know, you guys got cellphones, social media.
How do you not allow thosedistractions to get in the way
of what you feel like isimportant?
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Me.
Yeah, I just try to remindmyself that right now is a
period in my life where I havethe ability and the resources to
grow and build for the futureand that everything I, every
brick I place now will make iteasier to pursue what I want to
in the future and make it easieron myself in the future and
(40:19):
understand that I need to have alot of discipline.
That's something that wrestlinghelped me with was discipline,
because even whenever I didn'twant to go, I still did.
Even whenever I didn't want todo something, I still did.
And whenever it would be likebefore the weight cuts, before
the weight weigh-ins and stuff,I would have to have a lot of
(40:41):
self-discipline with what I ateand what I did, because my
family likes to eat out a lot.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Yeah, weigh-ins are definitely rough.
I just remind myself that I'mgoing to be disappointed in
myself later if I don't do whatI'm supposed to do and put
everything else aside and finishwhat's been started or even win
a tournament.
I just know that I don't wantto be put in a position where
(41:09):
someone else is getting theirhand raised and I'm not, so I
just set everything aside andprepare for that.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Self-care.
You guys spend a lot of timewrestling and school and all the
other working and helping outat home and doing all this stuff
.
Now how do you guys manage yourown self-care?
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Like do you mean like showering?
Speaker 1 (41:35):
No, I mean like just taking time for yourself, like
just reading a book or listeningto movies or watching
television, and just taking sometime for you that's not
centered around anythingstructured yeah, I think that's
important.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
I think that you need to carve out a block of time,
like every night, just to dosomething for yourself what do
you do?
I I like to read and I alsokind of like to crochet too.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
So you make hats and stuff and and like blankets,
hats sweaters, just for fun.
So did I hear Claire say she'sgoing to make us a scarf?
Did I hear?
Should I be expecting an OmegaPsi Phi scarf at some point?
Speaker 2 (42:18):
I don't know if you're going to want to wear
them.
They don't turn out too good.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
I just make sure to indulge in my hobbies and the
things I know help me keepmyself grounded and calm and
help me connect with myself,because sometimes I get a little
dissociated whenever I getstressed out, and I get stressed
out a lot because I'm put in alot of stressful situations on a
daily basis, almost a constant.
(42:45):
So I like to draw and do art.
I'm really good at it, and Iread sometimes and I meditate
and I journal and I reflect onthings within myself and try to
get closer to myself.
And I I read the Biblesometimes and I play with my pet
(43:10):
hermit crabs too.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
How many do you have?
I have two, All right.
What are their names?
I?
Speaker 3 (43:15):
was about to ask that Jamar and Peekaboo.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Okay, that's cute.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
They're giant Like they're the size of my hand.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
How long have you had them for?
Speaker 3 (43:26):
Since July.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
Dang Dang Okay.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
All right.
So here's an opportunity foryou guys, so I'm going to put
you on the spot.
You guys get to ask Claire acouple questions, you get to ask
Ambry a couple questions.
While you guys are thinkingabout that, I'm going to throw a
couple out for you yourfavorite musician, your favorite
book that you like to read andthe favorite TV show that you
(43:52):
guys are watching.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
Favorite musician Probably Mitski.
Favorite Mitski Mitski.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
Alright, how do you spell it?
Speaker 2 (43:59):
M-I, t-s-k-i, alright Mitski, I'm going to look it up
.
She's very poetic.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
I alright, mitski, I'm gonna look it up she's very
poetic alright.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
I love Mitski TV shows.
I like to watch Breaking Bad.
I watch that with my friendMaddie a lot.
That's like our favorite show.
What else did you say?
Book, book, favorite book myfavorite book was probably oh,
let me think I forgot the title.
I see the book, but I don'tknow what it's called Dang it
(44:38):
the Glass Castle.
I think the author is JeanetteWalls, but I cannot remember
right now.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
All right Book, music and TV show.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
Two of my favorite musicians are Jhene Aiko and SZA
.
I also listen to a lot ofBeyonce too.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
The country songs too .
Speaker 3 (45:01):
Not really.
I like Sweet Honeybuckin',though that's one of my favorite
ones that are her country songs, and then my favorite ones that
are country songs, All right.
And then my favorite show.
It's a show from when I waslittle.
It's called Octonauts and it'slike marine animals, it's like
(45:21):
land animals.
Go and help marine animals andit helps you learn about marine
animals.
I watch it all the time I inclass too actually what was your
favorite?
Octonaut, oh my god um quasi,that's mine too.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
Oh my gosh, I love quasi.
And um, oh my gosh, what's thepenguin's name?
I forgot pedro, right, yeah,yeah, I love ped, I love them
both.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
And my favorite book?
I don't really know, BecauseI've read a lot of books.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
What's your favorite?
Speaker 3 (46:00):
genre of book.
I like romance books a lot.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Ooh okay, but oh my gosh, it's just one book.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
I, for I, forget what it's called.
This is like a problem.
It's basically about a man andhe lives inside his mind, but he
doesn't want to be alive.
Most of the time it's calledlike I forget, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
The author was no, it's japanese.
That's why I can't remember, isthat the author, because I feel
like I know what book you'retalking about.
Yeah, no Longer Human.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yeah.
No Longer Human.
It's like I read it duringwinter.
It's a very depressing book.
It is.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
It's super real.
Speaker 3 (46:53):
It's like but I really liked it.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
It's nice to see the words that you feel like put on
paper.
All right, a couple questionsfor each other.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
Hmm, hmm, does it have to be Wrestling related?
Speaker 1 (47:05):
As long as it's appropriate.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
I don't want to start , I don't have any, I don't know
.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
Is it hard going to school With your twin sister?
Speaker 2 (47:17):
Yes, I'm the least popular, I'm not the popular one
, so everybody knows her and Ihave to follow her around Like,
as she greets, like Herthousands of friends.
It's annoying you, like herthousands of friends.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
It's annoying.
It's her thousands of friends.
That's interesting.
That's a whole nother podcastwithin itself.
The role of a twin right.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
Yes, oh, shoot, I forgot what I was going to ask
you got something else, fire itout.
Speaker 3 (47:55):
I know that you've gone like over the past few
years you've worked on learningabout yourself.
Was that hard?
Because I know you and Lucy areso different but you're exposed
to her in a constant and youguys have similar friends.
But you're exposed to her in aconstant and you guys have
similar friends, but you're sodifferent from her.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
I just think a lot.
It's like I like to sit andwrite papers and I do a lot of
self-reflection.
Honestly, it's just that'sactually a hobby of mine is to
sit and write about topics Iknow and just to think about
them I don't know.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
You guys both sound like poets, so this is going to
be a shameless plug.
Speaker 3 (48:34):
You guys should join the Wayne.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
County.
Speaker 3 (48:35):
Writers.
Speaker 1 (48:35):
I was a part of it.
Yeah, you should come back.
I'll think about it you got anyquestions for Ambria hmm, uh, I
don't know how to word it.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
I feel like you're a very mature person.
Speaker 3 (48:54):
What do you think it took to get there, just being
put in a lot of situations thatrequired me to step up and take
place of roles I shouldn't havehad to be put in, but I overcame
that anyways and understandingthe consequences of actions and
understanding that everythingdoes matter, like every little
(49:16):
thing does matter.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
How else do you feel like that helped you to this day
and age?
Speaker 3 (49:22):
I feel like I'm a very positive person now because
I uplift myself, but I also tryto uplift others whenever I can
.
Even if it's simple, smallthings that can change a lot
about how someone feels aboutthemselves and how their day is
going, and about someone's life.
If there's something you say tosomeone one day could be their
(49:45):
motivant throughout theirlifetime to follow their passion
or be themselves or connectwith others.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
I agree.
I always see you talking tosomebody in the hallway so I
know what effect do you feellike wrestling had on any
outside relationships that youhad before?
Speaker 3 (50:05):
Well, I think it helped me to stand up for myself
and stop being friends withpeople who very obviously held a
secret animosity towards meespecially because it was not
very secret and I just let a lotof stuff slide and a lot of
comments slide.
(50:25):
Let a lot of stuff slide and alot of comments slide, but I
started sticking up for myselfand not caring as much or like
at all about losing people,because I was more focused on
wrestling.
I understood that if peoplewere really there for me, they
wouldn't be doing that in thefirst place and I shouldn't want
(50:45):
people to like.
I shouldn't be worried aboutlosing people and I shouldn't
want people around me who actlike that and treat me like that
.
Speaker 1 (50:55):
Well, ladies, thank you for this time you guys have
spent with us Before we leave.
There was always one thing thatwe would always shout out as a
group Guys, let's, I want tohear, let's hear it real quick,
I start.
Who wants to start it off?
Speaker 2 (51:10):
the mantra yes, I got you, I am only one.
I am only one, but still I amone, but still I am one.
I cannot do everything.
I cannot do everything, butstill I can do something, but
still I can do something.
And because I cannot doeverything and because I cannot
do everything.
Speaker 3 (51:24):
I will not refuse.
I do everything.
I will not refuse, I will notrefuse To do, to do the
something, the something that wecan do, that we can do.
Speaker 1 (51:31):
Out of the Mouth of Babes, a podcast for our future
leaders.
Thank you all.
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