October 24, 2024 • 19 mins
What happens when two passionate student-athletes, De'Arieun Hicks and Teles Ortiz, refuse to be defined by a winless football season? Join us as we explore their remarkable journeys at Richmond High School, where they not only excel on the field but also manage to balance academics and athletics with impressive dedication. These seniors share the secrets behind their rigorous training routines and how their families have inspired their love for sports, showcasing the resilience that drives them to change perceptions and earn respect.
Reflect on the profound impact of mentors in shaping an athlete's journey, as I share personal stories of the coaches who molded my career and those of my co-hosts. From humorous anecdotes to lessons in strategy and resilience, we discuss the pivotal role these relationships play in not just athletic development but personal growth as well. This episode offers an inside look at navigating coaching relationships and how they contribute to building strong, adaptable athletes ready to take on challenges both on and off the field.
Prepare to be captivated by the spirit of high school athletics as we compare the contrasting styles of old school and new school coaching. We passionately advocate for the recognition of these athletes' unique qualities, urging college recruiters and local media to look beyond the previous season's record. As we gear up for an exciting scrimmage against Jay County, the anticipation builds around the team's "Four Horsemen," a dynamic core ready to showcase their potential. We invite you to support these young athletes as they strive to prove their mettle and redefine what it means to be a student-athlete.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Good evening and welcome to Out of the Mouth of
Babes, the podcast for our youth.
Today I got a special group inthe house.
Today is the athletic day.
We're going to talk to somestudent athletes.
We're going to talk to themabout their experiences, their
journeys, what makes them tick,why they do what they do, and
(00:28):
we're going to give them somepublicity, because these two
young men right here have beenovershadowed and I want to make
sure that the folks realize whothey are, what they do and get
them the proper respect thatthey deserve.
And before I introduce them, Iwant you to notice we got some
background effects in the house.
(00:49):
We have the Gary Rooseveltletterman jacket.
Let's give it a clap for GaryRoosevelt.
We got the Earl of HustlingQuaker letterman jacket.
I want you guys to know this iswhat they're aspiring to do.
You know, go away to collegeand play college football, get a
degree and come back and serve.
(01:09):
So let's start off with the farfar to my far right your first
name, last name, grade.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
My name is Telus Foy Ortiz.
I'm a senior.
This year I'm going to be asenior.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
And you are.
And what sports do you play?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
I throw for track and I mainly play football.
What position in football?
I'm a defensive tackle, the Dtackle down in the trenches.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Up next, who do we have on the microphone?
Speaker 3 (01:42):
De'Ariane Hicks and I'm going into my senior year.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
What other sports do you play, Mr Hicks?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Mainly football, but I'm going to try to get back
into basketball and track thisyear.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
All right Now.
Both of these gentlemen I wasabout to say have played
basketball in their time periodat Richmond High School.
Exceptional athletes, greatrole models.
So let's start off.
And you guys, this is kind ofreal, informal, so I don't want
you to think that I'm going tocall your name.
I'm just going to ask aquestion and I want both of you
(02:17):
to answer the question.
As a reminder, speak into themicrophone, get as close as you
can, but first, starting off,share your journey with the
folks that are listening abouthow you started playing sports
and what inspired you to playsports.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Really, when I started sports it was just my
mom signing me up for baseballand stuff, basketball leagues
and stuff like that.
But like, um, what reallypushed me to like, really pursue
, like it serious, was probablymy older brother, like he was.
He played before me.
You know he was pretty good atwhat he did.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
So you know I just want to be better big tim is his
older brother and when I saybig tim, I mean big tim.
I say Big Tim, I mean Big Tim,bigger than the Big Tim that I
know.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Next up, mr Hicks.
When I was younger, my momreally just wanted me to get out
the house and be outside more.
So she just asked me if Iwanted to play football.
So I said yeah, and that waslike fifth grade.
After that I just kept on going, kept on pushing.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
All right Now.
What is a typical trainingroutine like for you?
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Really, like you know , hitting the weight room.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
You know I mean a lot of a lot of a lot of field work
.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
You know we have to at our position, we have to use
our hands a lot.
You know our hips, our legs soit really takes.
It really takes a lot ofpractice, like by ourselves,
like just me and him on thefield just repping through stuff
.
You know, I mean it take a fewhours, like just me and him on
the field just repping throughstuff.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
You know what I mean.
It'd take a few hoursStretching and going through the
same movement you would do in agame.
It takes time, it takespractice, it takes effort, and
in the weight room you gotta bestrong, you gotta be tough and
you gotta play fast.
So it's pretty much what I do.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Now you guys are also exceptional students.
How do you balance athleticsand academics?
Speaker 2 (04:18):
you know, um, it's really, it's really just time
management.
You know I mean like once, oncewe're done with football
practice, you know we gostraight, like straight home.
That's when we start homework,all that.
You know what I mean.
We make sure I have ourpriorities straight.
You know what I mean, like makesure class comes first, then
football you know what I meanand then friends and all that.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Yeah, I pretty much.
I try to get all my work donein one period and then, if I
have time, I don't really know.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
So you, basically what I hear you saying, is that
you spend time even at school,kind of like study hall or study
table.
Some people have those periodswhere they can get additional
work in.
Is that what you do?
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Yeah, I have free time, but I don't go home and
just do no work.
I get all my work done in theclassroom first and then go to
football practice.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
All right.
Now you guys are aspiring to goto college.
Yeah, to play college football.
That's exciting, yeah, and thisis what we're working for.
You guys are currently on ateam where we've had some
challenges.
I would say right.
We've had some ups and downs.
Last year the team didn't do sohot, so what happens now is
(05:40):
that people don't recognize andrespect you.
Yeah, for sure.
How does that make you feel?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
It gives me a drive Like seeing like posts and stuff
about guys to watch out for andlike only one of our players
being there.
You know it really like pushesme, makes me want to like prove
them wrong, like you should belooking at me right now.
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (06:08):
I mean going 0-10,.
It comes with it beingdisrespected, but this year is
going to be different.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
I can tell you that these two gentlemen are probably
I'm going to speak it intoexistence right now.
There are not too manyoffensive linemen that are going
to be able to compete withthese two gentlemen right here.
I'm putting it out there rightnow.
Would you guys agree with that?
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
I'm trying to tell you now People don't recognize.
But over here on the east sideof Indiana we got two and
they're both 200 plus pounds.
You can't really tell becausethey're sitting next to Buff
Bagwell here, but they'resitting next to Buff Bagwell
(06:55):
here, but you know they're bothabout over 6'2", so you're not
getting a true measurement oftheir size, but there's some big
boys in the middle.
All righty, Can you share amemorable moment about football?
Speaker 2 (07:09):
About football.
It was, I think, my sophomoreyear.
We won our first sectional game.
You know, in a minute and youknow the feeling of that of just
winning.
You know what I mean,especially on a high-stakes game
, to like move on.
You know it felt great.
You know Like our whole teamjust clicked at the final, like
fourth quarter.
Everybody just clicked and itjust felt really good to all be
(07:31):
on the same page.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
You know what I mean.
Back in the hub, back in likefifth and sixth grade, my mom
dropped me off for practice andshe didn't feel like cooking
dinner that night, so she packedmy lunch and told me I went
after practice is over, just eatthat.
So after practice was over, Itook out a honey bun and I start
snacking on it, and then that'swhen coaches is like honey bun,
(07:55):
oh yeah, that's your newnickname, we're going to start
calling you honey bun.
So I grew out of that, thoughNot really Nah going into high
school.
I grew out of that.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
We still call him honey bun every now and then.
Yeah, a little bit, we stillcall him Honey Bun every now and
then.
Yeah, a little bit I wasn'tthere, but I remember when they
told me the name Honey Bun and Ijust kept calling him Honey Bun
.
So I have had the pleasure ofbeing coached by some of the
(08:29):
most amazing men.
You know, I started out withCoach Talaferro and Gary
Roosevelt, one of the greatestcoaches in Gary history.
I had Coach Arnold Price forfootball I had, you know, one
that I to this day has reallyshown me what it's like to be a
(08:49):
coach and a father.
Coach Kennedy, Hanna, CoachHanna he was kind of the crazy
coach where I probably get mostof my craziness from, but he was
like a father figure to me.
We had Coach Bullock, CoachGraves Coach Graves he's
actually Coach Graves iscurrently the offensive
(09:11):
coordinator at Warren CentralHigh School, but Coach Graves
was the coach who taught me howto understand the X's and O's in
high school football, Becausehe had just come home from.
I think he played at IU and Iwas a young coach and man.
He taught us so much stuff.
I think he played at IU and Iwas a young coach and man.
He taught us so much stuff.
(09:32):
And then I transitioned tocollege where I had the
opportunity of being recruitedby one of the greatest
recruiters in the world, andthat's Greg Williams.
Williams taught me how to buildrelationships with
student-athletes and he did thatbecause he was a Caucasian
(09:57):
football coach who traveled toGary, Indiana, to pick us up and
bring us to Richmond for us tohave the opportunity to learn
about the college.
And it was funny because at thetime when he pulled up, he came
, picked us up and we got in thecar.
(10:19):
He was listening to the musicthat we were listening to at the
time, which was the Ghetto Boys.
And I'm telling you, man, PaulStanley and I we were it was
Paul Stanley and I we were inthe car and we were super pumped
.
We was like, man, this coach iscool, he's listening to our
music.
Now He'll tell you the storythat before he left, he asked
(10:40):
some of the other footballplayers like what did they
listen to?
And they gave him a cassettetape and so he popped it in
Because it was cool, becauseRichmond's about a three-hour
drive from Gary, and so whatended up happening was the tape
was just to put it in.
You got to flip it over, but hedid it like two or three times,
(11:01):
but we were excited becausethis is what we listened to.
Then I also had the pleasure ofbeing coached by Stan Hill.
Stan was my position coach atEarlham College and the one
thing I learned from Stan isthat he allowed me to make
mistakes, and so it taught me tobe a better football player.
(11:22):
And if you combine all of thosegentlemen and the last one is
Robert Lee Robert Lee was was,um, he never coached me, but he
coached me because he taught mehow to be a coach in college.
So when I got it, got the jobat earlman, start coaching, I
would go to butler and,surprisingly enough, robert lee
(11:45):
and jimmy graves were workingtogether, which was my high
school coach.
And and so Robert taught me howto recruit, he taught me how to
understand special teams, hetaught me how to build
relationships while I wasrecruiting, and so he was my
coach mentor.
So for all of those gentlemen,you know and I know I left some
out, particularly on thewrestling side and other sides
(12:05):
of other sports that I may havedibbled and dabbled in, but
those guys really made an impacton my life.
You guys have a coach thatcoaches you now, who sometimes
goes over the top.
Talk to us a little bit abouthow do you deal with your coach
(12:25):
when you don't understand himsometimes and you don't
understand what he's trying todo.
And I want you to betransparent and I also want the
listeners to know.
I happen to coach these two, soI don't know what they're going
to say, but I'm going to turnit over to them.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
You want me to go first?
Yeah, you got it.
You got it All right.
You got it, you got it Allright.
Old school coaches can be alittle hard sometimes because I
got the pleasure of gettingcoached by a new school coach
and an old school coach and oldschool coaches definitely coach
(13:04):
harder and love harder becausethey care about me.
The new school coach you knowwhat'm saying.
He did, he did his thing.
But yeah, it's just, sometimesit's hard because you know, you
know they really care about youand they want to see you succeed
in life.
But that's the good thing allright.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Um, my experience, like with the coach that goes
over the top, especiallyoffensive period.
I'm playing offense.
You know he likes to get thedefense riled up, you know for
us.
So you know he's reallyteaching us.
He knows we can do itphysically.
He just wants to test usmentally.
You know what I mean.
He doesn't want us to go outthere on Friday night and like
(13:47):
some guy say something to us andus like react in a bad way.
You know what I mean.
So he definitely pushes us, youknow physically and mentally,
you know.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Yeah, now you guys are looking at colleges and
we're not going to specificallylist out all of your colleges
unless you want to.
But if you had to tell acollege coach right now a little
bit about yourself, what wouldyou say?
Why should they recruit you?
Tell them right now, look themin the camera and tell them who
(14:20):
you are, what you are capable ofand why should they recruit you
.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
I'll be the first, last time, dog All right.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Why did you recruit me?
You know I'm going to be there,I'm going to show up.
I'm dedicated to this.
You know what I mean.
Like you know, I'm working withmy teammates all the time, you
know, on and off the field youknow, you know, what I mean.
I take academics seriously.
You know what I mean.
I take academics seriously.
You know what I mean.
Started out like high school,like kind of like messing around
, but now you know I'm locked in.
(14:55):
You know what I mean.
I'm trying to push all my guysyou know everybody on the D-line
receivers, all of them.
You know we all got to rally asa team.
You know what I mean.
So I feel like I can bringmotivation into the program.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Why you want to recruit me.
I think I should be recruitedbecause I'm a carrier of the
boats.
I'm dedicated to the game, Ilove the game, I love playing
football and I'll do anything toplay college at the next level.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Now tell us.
You mentioned and tell us butwe call him TO, TO and Honey Bun
are in the house TO.
You mentioned that you know wemay not get the respect that we
deserve.
Yeah, if you had theopportunity of communicating to
the newspaper locally or theradio, or what would you say to
(15:53):
them?
And why should they start tolook at you?
Speaker 2 (15:57):
um, I feel like that they just overlook, overlook us
because of our um, not becauseus as an individual, they're
just overlooking us like as ateam.
You know I mean like um, wewent, we had 0-10, like Tink
mentioned.
So like it's really like acomeback season for us.
You know what I mean.
It's like going 0-10 doesn'tfeel good.
(16:17):
So you know we have that drive.
You know that other teams don'thave, they're used to doing
like what they normally do, butfor us, man, like just don't
overlook us.
You know what I mean.
Like I feel like we better thanmost people, we better than
most people in in Wayne County,you know I mean.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
So they just have to have to watch and see mmm, I
feel like whoever typed that, uh, I don't know no disrespect.
I feel like we got the bestdefensive line, we got the best
quarterback, we got the bestwide receiver group.
(16:56):
Our O-line still needs somework but we're gonna get that
situated.
But I just feel like we're thebest team in Wayne County by far
and we play harder teams, weplay tough teams, we play 6
harder teams, we play toughteams, we play 6A teams and we
got two-way numbers.
So that just goes to show howwe're up for the challenge.
(17:18):
I'm not trying to back out andgo to a lower division.
That's not me.
I want the challenge.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
So what he's mentioning is that we play in
the NCC, which is the NorthCentral Conference.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
And in that conference there are teams that
are definitely in size andnumbers in school and even their
programs are larger than us,and so that's when he said we
play larger teams.
The other thing I want you guysto always understand and know
is that our record last year wasnot indicative of you all right
(17:57):
, and so because we I mean youknow there's a core group of you
all that have been doing whatyou need to do.
So don't ever put yourself in aposition like it's you or it's
your teammates, because whatwe're dealing with is systemic,
right, and when I say systemic,it has.
It goes all the way down from,you know, from the top to the
(18:18):
bottom.
You know, from coaching,coaching selections to plays, to
, you know, getting kids outthere, recruiting, and so in our
community we have to continueto keep encouraging kids to want
to come out and play.
Do you guys have anything elseyou want to leave the audience
(18:38):
and the people in the audiencewith?
Speaker 2 (18:43):
we coming yeah, fair, you know what I mean.
Hey, we're gonna, we're gonna,we're gonna show up when we need
to.
You know what I mean.
We're going to be there,especially against August 18th.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
So if you guys are excited about you know you've
heard them next Friday there's ascrimmage.
It's a scrimmage home, rightagainst Jay County.
Come out and check the FourHorsemen out.
That's what I call them, theFour Horsemen.
If you guys don't know who theFour Horsemen are, they was a
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wrestling group back in the day,in the 90s.
So these are the Four Horsemen.
Right now you're talking theinside, the two of the nucleus
of the Four Horsemen, and thennow you're about to.
Now you guys are going to meetthe exterior, the ends, so we're
going to take a pause and bringin the next guys.
(19:39):
Thank you, guys for listeningto Out of the Mouth.
Good evening and welcome to Out of the Mouth of
Babes, the podcast for our youth.
Today I got a special group inthe house.
Today is the athletic day.
We're going to talk to somestudent athletes.
We're going to talk to themabout their experiences, their
journeys, what makes them tick,why they do what they do, and
(00:28):
we're going to give them somepublicity, because these two
young men right here have beenovershadowed and I want to make
sure that the folks realize whothey are, what they do and get
them the proper respect thatthey deserve.
And before I introduce them, Iwant you to notice we got some
background effects in the house.
(00:49):
We have the Gary Rooseveltletterman jacket.
Let's give it a clap for GaryRoosevelt.
We got the Earl of HustlingQuaker letterman jacket.
I want you guys to know this iswhat they're aspiring to do.
You know, go away to collegeand play college football, get a
degree and come back and serve.
(01:09):
So let's start off with the farfar to my far right your first
name, last name, grade.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
My name is Telus Foy Ortiz.
I'm a senior.
This year I'm going to be asenior.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
And you are.
And what sports do you play?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
I throw for track and I mainly play football.
What position in football?
I'm a defensive tackle, the Dtackle down in the trenches.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Up next, who do we have on the microphone?
Speaker 3 (01:42):
De'Ariane Hicks and I'm going into my senior year.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
What other sports do you play, Mr Hicks?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Mainly football, but I'm going to try to get back
into basketball and track thisyear.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
All right Now.
Both of these gentlemen I wasabout to say have played
basketball in their time periodat Richmond High School.
Exceptional athletes, greatrole models.
So let's start off.
And you guys, this is kind ofreal, informal, so I don't want
you to think that I'm going tocall your name.
I'm just going to ask aquestion and I want both of you
(02:17):
to answer the question.
As a reminder, speak into themicrophone, get as close as you
can, but first, starting off,share your journey with the
folks that are listening abouthow you started playing sports
and what inspired you to playsports.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Really, when I started sports it was just my
mom signing me up for baseballand stuff, basketball leagues
and stuff like that.
But like, um, what reallypushed me to like, really pursue
, like it serious, was probablymy older brother, like he was.
He played before me.
You know he was pretty good atwhat he did.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
So you know I just want to be better big tim is his
older brother and when I saybig tim, I mean big tim.
I say Big Tim, I mean Big Tim,bigger than the Big Tim that I
know.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Next up, mr Hicks.
When I was younger, my momreally just wanted me to get out
the house and be outside more.
So she just asked me if Iwanted to play football.
So I said yeah, and that waslike fifth grade.
After that I just kept on going, kept on pushing.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
All right Now.
What is a typical trainingroutine like for you?
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Really, like you know , hitting the weight room.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
You know I mean a lot of a lot of a lot of field work
.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
You know we have to at our position, we have to use
our hands a lot.
You know our hips, our legs soit really takes.
It really takes a lot ofpractice, like by ourselves,
like just me and him on thefield just repping through stuff
.
You know, I mean it take a fewhours, like just me and him on
the field just repping throughstuff.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
You know what I mean.
It'd take a few hoursStretching and going through the
same movement you would do in agame.
It takes time, it takespractice, it takes effort, and
in the weight room you gotta bestrong, you gotta be tough and
you gotta play fast.
So it's pretty much what I do.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Now you guys are also exceptional students.
How do you balance athleticsand academics?
Speaker 2 (04:18):
you know, um, it's really, it's really just time
management.
You know I mean like once, oncewe're done with football
practice, you know we gostraight, like straight home.
That's when we start homework,all that.
You know what I mean.
We make sure I have ourpriorities straight.
You know what I mean, like makesure class comes first, then
football you know what I meanand then friends and all that.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Yeah, I pretty much.
I try to get all my work donein one period and then, if I
have time, I don't really know.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
So you, basically what I hear you saying, is that
you spend time even at school,kind of like study hall or study
table.
Some people have those periodswhere they can get additional
work in.
Is that what you do?
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Yeah, I have free time, but I don't go home and
just do no work.
I get all my work done in theclassroom first and then go to
football practice.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
All right.
Now you guys are aspiring to goto college.
Yeah, to play college football.
That's exciting, yeah, and thisis what we're working for.
You guys are currently on ateam where we've had some
challenges.
I would say right.
We've had some ups and downs.
Last year the team didn't do sohot, so what happens now is
(05:40):
that people don't recognize andrespect you.
Yeah, for sure.
How does that make you feel?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
It gives me a drive Like seeing like posts and stuff
about guys to watch out for andlike only one of our players
being there.
You know it really like pushesme, makes me want to like prove
them wrong, like you should belooking at me right now.
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (06:08):
I mean going 0-10,.
It comes with it beingdisrespected, but this year is
going to be different.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
I can tell you that these two gentlemen are probably
I'm going to speak it intoexistence right now.
There are not too manyoffensive linemen that are going
to be able to compete withthese two gentlemen right here.
I'm putting it out there rightnow.
Would you guys agree with that?
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
I'm trying to tell you now People don't recognize.
But over here on the east sideof Indiana we got two and
they're both 200 plus pounds.
You can't really tell becausethey're sitting next to Buff
Bagwell here, but they'resitting next to Buff Bagwell
(06:55):
here, but you know they're bothabout over 6'2", so you're not
getting a true measurement oftheir size, but there's some big
boys in the middle.
All righty, Can you share amemorable moment about football?
Speaker 2 (07:09):
About football.
It was, I think, my sophomoreyear.
We won our first sectional game.
You know, in a minute and youknow the feeling of that of just
winning.
You know what I mean,especially on a high-stakes game
, to like move on.
You know it felt great.
You know Like our whole teamjust clicked at the final, like
fourth quarter.
Everybody just clicked and itjust felt really good to all be
(07:31):
on the same page.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
You know what I mean.
Back in the hub, back in likefifth and sixth grade, my mom
dropped me off for practice andshe didn't feel like cooking
dinner that night, so she packedmy lunch and told me I went
after practice is over, just eatthat.
So after practice was over, Itook out a honey bun and I start
snacking on it, and then that'swhen coaches is like honey bun,
(07:55):
oh yeah, that's your newnickname, we're going to start
calling you honey bun.
So I grew out of that, thoughNot really Nah going into high
school.
I grew out of that.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
We still call him honey bun every now and then.
Yeah, a little bit, we stillcall him Honey Bun every now and
then.
Yeah, a little bit I wasn'tthere, but I remember when they
told me the name Honey Bun and Ijust kept calling him Honey Bun
.
So I have had the pleasure ofbeing coached by some of the
(08:29):
most amazing men.
You know, I started out withCoach Talaferro and Gary
Roosevelt, one of the greatestcoaches in Gary history.
I had Coach Arnold Price forfootball I had, you know, one
that I to this day has reallyshown me what it's like to be a
(08:49):
coach and a father.
Coach Kennedy, Hanna, CoachHanna he was kind of the crazy
coach where I probably get mostof my craziness from, but he was
like a father figure to me.
We had Coach Bullock, CoachGraves Coach Graves he's
actually Coach Graves iscurrently the offensive
(09:11):
coordinator at Warren CentralHigh School, but Coach Graves
was the coach who taught me howto understand the X's and O's in
high school football, Becausehe had just come home from.
I think he played at IU and Iwas a young coach and man.
He taught us so much stuff.
I think he played at IU and Iwas a young coach and man.
He taught us so much stuff.
(09:32):
And then I transitioned tocollege where I had the
opportunity of being recruitedby one of the greatest
recruiters in the world, andthat's Greg Williams.
Williams taught me how to buildrelationships with
student-athletes and he did thatbecause he was a Caucasian
(09:57):
football coach who traveled toGary, Indiana, to pick us up and
bring us to Richmond for us tohave the opportunity to learn
about the college.
And it was funny because at thetime when he pulled up, he came
, picked us up and we got in thecar.
(10:19):
He was listening to the musicthat we were listening to at the
time, which was the Ghetto Boys.
And I'm telling you, man, PaulStanley and I we were it was
Paul Stanley and I we were inthe car and we were super pumped
.
We was like, man, this coach iscool, he's listening to our
music.
Now He'll tell you the storythat before he left, he asked
(10:40):
some of the other footballplayers like what did they
listen to?
And they gave him a cassettetape and so he popped it in
Because it was cool, becauseRichmond's about a three-hour
drive from Gary, and so whatended up happening was the tape
was just to put it in.
You got to flip it over, but hedid it like two or three times,
(11:01):
but we were excited becausethis is what we listened to.
Then I also had the pleasure ofbeing coached by Stan Hill.
Stan was my position coach atEarlham College and the one
thing I learned from Stan isthat he allowed me to make
mistakes, and so it taught me tobe a better football player.
(11:22):
And if you combine all of thosegentlemen and the last one is
Robert Lee Robert Lee was was,um, he never coached me, but he
coached me because he taught mehow to be a coach in college.
So when I got it, got the jobat earlman, start coaching, I
would go to butler and,surprisingly enough, robert lee
(11:45):
and jimmy graves were workingtogether, which was my high
school coach.
And and so Robert taught me howto recruit, he taught me how to
understand special teams, hetaught me how to build
relationships while I wasrecruiting, and so he was my
coach mentor.
So for all of those gentlemen,you know and I know I left some
out, particularly on thewrestling side and other sides
(12:05):
of other sports that I may havedibbled and dabbled in, but
those guys really made an impacton my life.
You guys have a coach thatcoaches you now, who sometimes
goes over the top.
Talk to us a little bit abouthow do you deal with your coach
(12:25):
when you don't understand himsometimes and you don't
understand what he's trying todo.
And I want you to betransparent and I also want the
listeners to know.
I happen to coach these two, soI don't know what they're going
to say, but I'm going to turnit over to them.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
You want me to go first?
Yeah, you got it.
You got it All right.
You got it, you got it Allright.
Old school coaches can be alittle hard sometimes because I
got the pleasure of gettingcoached by a new school coach
and an old school coach and oldschool coaches definitely coach
(13:04):
harder and love harder becausethey care about me.
The new school coach you knowwhat'm saying.
He did, he did his thing.
But yeah, it's just, sometimesit's hard because you know, you
know they really care about youand they want to see you succeed
in life.
But that's the good thing allright.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Um, my experience, like with the coach that goes
over the top, especiallyoffensive period.
I'm playing offense.
You know he likes to get thedefense riled up, you know for
us.
So you know he's reallyteaching us.
He knows we can do itphysically.
He just wants to test usmentally.
You know what I mean.
He doesn't want us to go outthere on Friday night and like
(13:47):
some guy say something to us andus like react in a bad way.
You know what I mean.
So he definitely pushes us, youknow physically and mentally,
you know.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Yeah, now you guys are looking at colleges and
we're not going to specificallylist out all of your colleges
unless you want to.
But if you had to tell acollege coach right now a little
bit about yourself, what wouldyou say?
Why should they recruit you?
Tell them right now, look themin the camera and tell them who
(14:20):
you are, what you are capable ofand why should they recruit you
.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
I'll be the first, last time, dog All right.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Why did you recruit me?
You know I'm going to be there,I'm going to show up.
I'm dedicated to this.
You know what I mean.
Like you know, I'm working withmy teammates all the time, you
know, on and off the field youknow, you know, what I mean.
I take academics seriously.
You know what I mean.
I take academics seriously.
You know what I mean.
Started out like high school,like kind of like messing around
, but now you know I'm locked in.
(14:55):
You know what I mean.
I'm trying to push all my guysyou know everybody on the D-line
receivers, all of them.
You know we all got to rally asa team.
You know what I mean.
So I feel like I can bringmotivation into the program.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Why you want to recruit me.
I think I should be recruitedbecause I'm a carrier of the
boats.
I'm dedicated to the game, Ilove the game, I love playing
football and I'll do anything toplay college at the next level.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Now tell us.
You mentioned and tell us butwe call him TO, TO and Honey Bun
are in the house TO.
You mentioned that you know wemay not get the respect that we
deserve.
Yeah, if you had theopportunity of communicating to
the newspaper locally or theradio, or what would you say to
(15:53):
them?
And why should they start tolook at you?
Speaker 2 (15:57):
um, I feel like that they just overlook, overlook us
because of our um, not becauseus as an individual, they're
just overlooking us like as ateam.
You know I mean like um, wewent, we had 0-10, like Tink
mentioned.
So like it's really like acomeback season for us.
You know what I mean.
It's like going 0-10 doesn'tfeel good.
(16:17):
So you know we have that drive.
You know that other teams don'thave, they're used to doing
like what they normally do, butfor us, man, like just don't
overlook us.
You know what I mean.
Like I feel like we better thanmost people, we better than
most people in in Wayne County,you know I mean.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
So they just have to have to watch and see mmm, I
feel like whoever typed that, uh, I don't know no disrespect.
I feel like we got the bestdefensive line, we got the best
quarterback, we got the bestwide receiver group.
(16:56):
Our O-line still needs somework but we're gonna get that
situated.
But I just feel like we're thebest team in Wayne County by far
and we play harder teams, weplay tough teams, we play 6
harder teams, we play toughteams, we play 6A teams and we
got two-way numbers.
So that just goes to show howwe're up for the challenge.
(17:18):
I'm not trying to back out andgo to a lower division.
That's not me.
I want the challenge.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
So what he's mentioning is that we play in
the NCC, which is the NorthCentral Conference.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
And in that conference there are teams that
are definitely in size andnumbers in school and even their
programs are larger than us,and so that's when he said we
play larger teams.
The other thing I want you guysto always understand and know
is that our record last year wasnot indicative of you all right
(17:57):
, and so because we I mean youknow there's a core group of you
all that have been doing whatyou need to do.
So don't ever put yourself in aposition like it's you or it's
your teammates, because whatwe're dealing with is systemic,
right, and when I say systemic,it has.
It goes all the way down from,you know, from the top to the
(18:18):
bottom.
You know, from coaching,coaching selections to plays, to
, you know, getting kids outthere, recruiting, and so in our
community we have to continueto keep encouraging kids to want
to come out and play.
Do you guys have anything elseyou want to leave the audience
(18:38):
and the people in the audiencewith?
Speaker 2 (18:43):
we coming yeah, fair, you know what I mean.
Hey, we're gonna, we're gonna,we're gonna show up when we need
to.
You know what I mean.
We're going to be there,especially against August 18th.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
So if you guys are excited about you know you've
heard them next Friday there's ascrimmage.
It's a scrimmage home, rightagainst Jay County.
Come out and check the FourHorsemen out.
That's what I call them, theFour Horsemen.
If you guys don't know who theFour Horsemen are, they was a
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wrestling group back in the day,in the 90s.
So these are the Four Horsemen.
Right now you're talking theinside, the two of the nucleus
of the Four Horsemen, and thennow you're about to.
Now you guys are going to meetthe exterior, the ends, so we're
going to take a pause and bringin the next guys.
(19:39):
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