October 26, 2024 • 27 mins
What happens when two of Richmond's brightest athletic talents come together to share their stories? Join us for an engaging chat with Cedric Horton and Ryder Cate, young athletes making waves in basketball and golf. Cedric, a junior, opens up about his journey from a casual basketball player to a determined athlete, while Ryder, a senior with deep roots in golf, talks about balancing his dual sports passions. Discover their daily routines of school, weightlifting, and practice, and hear how they balance the grind with relaxation to keep their performance sharp.
Nutrition plays a crucial part in their success, with Cedric and Ryder revealing their unique dietary practices, from Italian dishes to quirky meals like macaroni and cheese with Gushers. They candidly talk about the pressures of living up to family expectations and the resilience they've developed to tackle performance anxiety. Listen as they recount memorable on-court experiences and the invaluable support from their families and teammates that keeps them motivated, even when the pressure mounts.
Basketball legends and music play a key role in shaping their athletic identities. Cedric and Ryder debate the greatest basketball players of all time, drawing inspiration from icons like Michael Jordan and LeBron James, and celebrate the influence of defensive stalwarts such as Draymond Green. Their pre-game rituals are fueled by the beats of Rod Wave and Lil Baby, setting the mood for game day. As we wrap up, they remind us of the joy in the process, from local leagues to the thrilling anticipation of college prospects, all buoyed by unwavering community support. Tune in to celebrate the dreams and aspirations of these exceptional young athletes.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Welcome to Out of the Mouth of Babes, the podcast for
our future leaders.
I am so excited today because Igot two of Richmond's elite in
the room.
I'm going to let them introducethemselves.
They're going to tell us theirfirst and last name, their GPA,
their grade, all the sports theyplay and anything they want to
share with us.
I'm just going to turn it overto you.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
My name is Cedric Horton.
I'm a junior, I got a 3.4 GPAand I play basketball.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
I'm Ryder Kate.
I'm a senior, I got a 3.9 GPAand I play basketball and golf.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
All right, welcome to the podcast for your future
leaders.
I'm going to just jump right inand start asking y'all
questions.
Talk to us a little bit aboutyour journey and what inspired
you to play sports.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
My journey was interesting.
I was just playing sports toplay sports pretty much.
Then I ended up pickingbasketball and.
I wasn't really good at it.
I was just playing it becauseto me it was fun.
Then I started taking itserious and I just kept getting
better, kept working andeverything took care of itself
and I'm gonna interrupt him fora second, because he was also a
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football player too.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
And man, I got some video.
I'm gonna start pulling thosevideos out the vault.
I used to just throw a sweepleft to Mason, a sweep right to
Zion, and then down the field toCedric, and then they got hoop
dreams.
All right, we on you, ryder.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
My story.
I just feel like I kind of grewup around basketball and I just
went back to Richmond schoolbecause I was a community
Christian when I was younger andthen all my friends played
basketball and then it kind ofjust developed like a love for
it.
When we started playing all thetime it just kind of developed
and turned into a stronger loveand following my dreams.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Now, ryder, you're also, and he won't talk a lot
about this, but you are anexceptional golf player too,
right yeah?
So talk to us.
I don't know much about it, butwhere do you hit?
Like, tell me how good you are.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Most people would say I'm pretty decent.
But that just kind of came frommy parents, my family, my dad,
went to Purdue and tried to gopro, so that was kind of always
in my family.
And then that just kind ofturned into more and more as I
got older and then I ended upbeing really good, so it all
turned out.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
So, like last year, you participated in golf.
And how far did you go?
We went to regionals.
Okay, now what aboutindividually?
You went to regionals as well.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yeah, I missed regionals by one shot.
I missed state by one shot.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
So this year we can see it, we can hope for a state
championship.
Yeah, we'll see All righty, allrighty, all right.
Talk to us a little bit aboutnow.
Now to be stellar athletes,that means you guys have to work
hard at it, right?
Yeah, and talk to me about yourdaily routine.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
My daily routine is really go to school, go home,
get some food I got to eat, andthen I might go get some shots
up, depending on the day, how Ifeel.
That just depends on howintense I work out.
So if I'm feeling good, I mightwork out pretty good, and then,
if I'm not feeling too good mylegs hurt or something I might
just stretch and get some shotsto keep my form right and just
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go from there, go home, eat somemore, probably play the game.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Yeah, for me.
I got weightlifting everysingle day, and then it's the
balance between legs and armsand all that fun stuff.
And then get shots up every day, usually like right after
school because I got half theA's, and then just try to eat a
lot, obviously, and keep gettingin the way and get stronger
every day.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
I lift every day too, just so that's clear.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
All right.
So how do you mentally preparefor the game?
So how do you mentally preparefor all of the rigorous um
expectations of basketball?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
um, I used to take it seriously.
I feel like I took it tooseriously.
So then I started, you know,chilling out, uh, just taking it
like it was just another game.
And that's when I startedplaying my best last year,
started seeing off a littleshaky, just started I was
thinking too much.
And then once I just startedletting it all go and just
pretty much just having fun withit and not really thinking,
just playing, that's when Iplayed my best.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Yeah, I agree, I think it's just you gotta go out
there and act like it's justsomething fun and it's not
something so serious, cuz whenyou start taking it so serious
then it just kinda ruins thevibe and start overthinking
stuff that you can do easily ona regular basis.
And I just try to keep itsimple, keep everything simple
and just get myself comfortableand acquainted with what I'm
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doing so I can perform at thebest level now.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
I want all our listeners out there to know that
, um, I have put my chair up alittle higher to to show that I
am a little taller than thesegentlemen, but how tall are both
of you?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I'm 6'5", but I tell everyone I'm like 6'6", I'm
basically the same 6'5", 6'6".
Speaker 1 (05:12):
And I'm 5'11".
Nutrition Do you guys havepeople to help you with your
nutrition?
Do you go to dieticians or dodo you have like a specific meal
that gets you energy?
And the reason why I asked thatquestion I was my daughter's.
My daughter plays ball, as youknow, and I seen on the side
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their coach brings sweet andsour patches for them and they
said something about the sugarhelps them.
I don't know.
Talk to me a little bit aboutyour nutrition.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Really for me.
My dad helps me with mynutrition, but all I really got
to do is just eat everything Ican see, just eat as much as I
can while lifting, just so thatmy lifting will show that I lift
.
But I just need to start eatingmore, and pretty much anything
gives me energy.
But my favorite is Italian food, like some lasagna, some pasta.
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That gives me the most energyreally the secret to my balance
I'm not going to lie thatmacaroni and cheese and Gushers.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Gushers, macaroni and cheese.
Now I'm just going to keep itreal macaroni and cheese and
Gushers got me up to a littlebit over 3.
It gives me balance.
I'm not going to lie it givesme the bounce.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
I think both my parents are pretty on me about
the nutrition and just eatingthe right things because I can
get off the course pretty easily.
But I don't know.
I try to eat mostprotein-packed and most
calorie-packed things and justtry to keep gaining weight
because it's a struggle with allthe workouts and stuff to keep
your weight up.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
So what are some of the challenges you guys have
faced in your career, and thenhow did you guys overcome those
challenges?
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I'll say my biggest challenge was probably just
feeling like I let my parentsdown, I'm not doing something
good enough and they're justwanting the best for me.
So when they get on me, I justtake it the wrong way, and
pretty much the way I dealt withit was just suck it up, just do
it change.
Do what they say, change yourworkouts, do whatever, and the
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results take care of itself.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Yeah, I would say the same.
Basically it's justunderperforming and stuff like
that, like taking it too seriousonce again, just not feeling
like you did what you know youcan do every day and like you
practice it and it just doesn'tturn out how you thought it was
going to.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
So who are your role models and who do you look up to
?
Speaker 2 (07:45):
I would say my biggest role model would be my
mom.
Just because she's always beenthere for me, it's not always
been good for us.
Just growing up and just seeingher persevere and just fight
through and then get to whereshe's at now, it's just I just
look up to her.
I want to be like her one day,just be able to fight through
everything and just be a goodmom, a good parent.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Yeah, mine's probably both my parents my dad and my
mom Just watching them work sohard and everything they do and
treating me so well, even whenstuff in life probably wasn't
going great for them.
But they never showed it andnever took it out on me and
always gave me the bestopportunity for everything like
sports and all that.
So I appreciate them and tryingto strive to be like them and
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shout-out to Pops you know,Everything, basketball.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
It's all because of him.
My mom's more of life.
I go to her when it's aboutlife and basketball.
I can go to my dad.
I can go to him about life, itdon't matter, but I go more to
basketball to my dad.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Just because he does so much research, he knows a lot
.
So shout out to Pops.
So you guys have had some youknow up until this point pretty
successful last couple ofseasons, and with that comes
memorable moments.
Talk to us a little bit aboutsome memorable moments that you
guys have had on the court.
Now I've seen some of yourmemorable moments.
There's times where I've seensome of your memorable moments.
(09:07):
There's times where I've seen Ican be at home and I see a
TikTok flash of one of y'alldunking or smacking the ball or
something smacking the ball fromsomebody.
But talk to us a little bitabout some of those memorable
moments.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
I've had a few.
One that really sticks out tome was probably winning the
wedding.
You know, just finally winningthat for Richmond, you know we
ain't winning.
I don't think we won.
That was the first time.
And just winning our tournamentand doing it for the community,
that's a very memorable momentto me.
Just being able to win it withmy friends, doing it with my
friends makes it even better.
And another one would probablybe probably against Franklin
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County.
I had six points that game.
I think I had my head down thewhole game mad, but just my
teammates being there for metelling me I'm good, picking up
the load and overperforming,while I was just not playing
good and they didn't let thataffect them and they just made
sure I was straight.
So it's just meant a lot to methat they were there for me.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Yeah, winning the wedding obviously was a great
accomplishment for the team.
We've been talking about thatsince we was in second grade and
it's just awesome to see thatactually come to life.
Probably another great memorywas just like our first win for
Coach Wright.
I think that was definitely acrazy thing.
It was just crazy to see thecommunity out there and everyone
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out there to support him and beout there just trying to watch
the Richmond basketball game.
And I was participating in myfreshman year, which was with
another coach, and it wasn't thegreatest year ever and the
greatest experience I ever had.
So it was great to be out therewith Coach Wright and when he
was out there with us, it wasjust an awesome experience to
get a win for him get away fromhim.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
So you know, one of the things that I know you guys
experience is pressure.
Right, if you walk into thehalls of the Tiernan Center you
look on the wall.
I remember seeing there's a lotof your family members that
graced those halls, graced thoseHall of Fames.
And I know Ryder, your dad's upthere, and you have Cedric, you
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have several cousins and unclesup there.
How do you live up to thepressures of one day wanting to
at least grace the hallway withyour picture on the wall?
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Honestly, I'm not going to lie.
I don't even think about thatas much as what you would think.
Yeah, I want to be up there oneday, but I'm just worried about
the present right now.
The future is going to takecare of itself.
So pretty much I'm just playingevery game like it's my last
game, just so.
If I play every game like that,there's no doubt that I should
be on that wall.
If I keep playing Like everygame is my last, yeah, I don't
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feel like it's a pressure.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
It's just awesome to have all those people around us
as we've grown up and stuff,because a bunch of people have
been great influences on us inbasketball, golf, whatever.
It was just trying to get us towork harder and love what we do
and just show us that it's anopportunity and we need to take
it seriously in all aspects.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yeah, I just feel like they're just pushing them.
Being up there is just pushingus to be better than them,
because a lot of people want tosee you succeed, want to see you
be better.
Some people don't, but thepeople up there want to see you
do better than them.
They'll make the same mistakesthey made, so they like to tell
us a lot about where they messedup or what they could have done
better in some situations, justso that we don't make those
same mistakes and we thank themfor that what advice would you
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live, you leave to the futurered devils, you know, your
little brothers and cousins andtheir friends.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
What would you tell them?
Something that they need tostart doing now um, uh.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
So my first year I felt like high school gonna take
forever, but I'm already ajunior now I feel like I was
just a freshman yesterday.
Just take everything.
Don't take it for granted.
Just live in the moment andjust have fun, because it all
goes by in a blink of an eye.
It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Yeah, I'm going to go off that I didn't get a
freshman year, basically becauseof COVID.
So just take every singlemoment in and enjoy it all you
can, because it'll be gone sofast, like I'm a senior and I
still feel like I'm a freshman,about to start walking the halls
.
So it's just crazy how fast itgoes by.
And just enjoy it so much.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Yeah, be smart with it.
Be smart with it.
We're not saying just dowhatever Like you know, have fun
with it, but don't do nothingstupid.
Just do whatever Like you know,have fun with it, but don't do
nothing stupid.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
So I grew up in an era where there are some really
good basketball being played, soI'm going to ask you guys who's
your favorite.
First of all, who's yourall-time favorite basketball
players?
First, let's start off.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Who do you think is the greatest basketball player
of all?
Speaker 1 (13:59):
time, and who's your all-time favorite?
Speaker 3 (14:00):
I think the greatest of all time.
Uh, pressure, go ahead, you gofor it.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Um, my greatest all-time would probably be no,
not your, the greatest of alltime, and then your favorite, I
don't know, shalange, I'm goingto go with MJ, just because
that's always what I've stood by, and yeah, that's just always
what I've stood by.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
But my most personal favorite is Paul George, because
the way he handles himself andthe way he goes around and can
play like every single spot, itdoesn't matter, he can defend,
defend, score, all that.
He's just a great leader allaround.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Goat, yeah, lebron got all the stats.
But come on, Michael Jordan.
To go to three Pete's, come on,yeah.
And then my personal favorite,it's gotta be Kevin Durant
greatest score to touch thebasketball.
Like, who can guard him?
No one.
Seven foot point guard come on,he's him.
I can't mess with him.
Who can guard him?
No one.
Seven-foot point guard Come on,he's him.
No one can mess with him.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
I can respect that.
So I grew up in the.
You know I'm from northwestIndiana and, being from Gary, we
got all the Chicago stations.
So for us watching the Bulls,it was the Michael Jordan.
So we went through that wholeera.
So, yeah, michael Jordan for meis the greatest of all time.
But I also like other players.
Now you may not know this, butI dibbled and dabbled in
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basketball.
Now don't let the size fool you, because I got a killer
crossover and I got a killer hop, step over your head.
Hey man, you better ask somebody.
But I'm really known forfouling, so I'll just keep it
real with you.
If you come in the paint,you're going to hit the ground,
at least the first time.
That's what everyone always saysI'm trying to tell you and I
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wouldn't do it with y'allbecause I mess around and I
don't want to hurt you but backin the day I was known for that.
But I like Dennis Rodman, Ilike those type of guys who,
embodied like working hard,didn't necessarily care about
scoring, but what they reallycared about was rebounding and
playing defense.
So if you were to ask me whoare my, you know my favorites.
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Now I don't see a lot of thosetype of guys nowadays.
Now you guys may watch morebasketball, but are there guys
out there like those guys?
Speaker 2 (16:09):
There is, but there's not as many as there used to be
, just because a lot of peoplenow think winning a game is
scoring 30 points.
But there's a lot of littlethings you can do.
But a lot of people just thinkI just got scored 30 points,
we're going to win.
But some people have differentroles, whether that be I just
need to rebound, play somedefense or just pass the ball,
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assist, not turn it over.
But a lot of people just thinkgoing out and getting 30 points
is a good thing.
It's really not, unless you'vegot that role.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Yeah, I think the Warriors got a lot of guys that
can work really hard, like theydo a good job recruiting guys
like Draymond and Gary Paytonand all of them recruiting guys
like Draymond and Gary Paytonall of them.
I think they recruit very well.
If you watch some of theirgames, you can see some of those
guys.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
I would say Draymond does kind of embody that.
He's gonna get up in your faceand kind of bully you around.
Music you guys are thisgeneration of music.
What do you guys listen to?
If you had before a game, who'sin the?
I was about to a game.
Who's in the?
I was about to say who's in thecd player?
I tell you my age, but who's onthe iphone?
Speaker 2 (17:15):
this is a surprising one, but, rodway, I'm not gonna
lie, rodway, be in my ear,rodway he in my ears, he give me
right.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
I don't even know who that is.
You don't need he's the best.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
He's the best can you hey?
Speaker 1 (17:27):
let me hear song.
What's the name of the song?
Speaker 2 (17:29):
I listened to a song called MJ Story.
You know that's one that getsme right.
Is it like a slow song?
Nah, a lot of his music is slow.
It's more like you know, chillout Singing.
Really he likes to sing.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Okay, that'd be going on before the game.
That's one song I play forevery game.
Honestly, that song is on theother time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, let'srock and roll, say I'm the good
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bro Stealing out the store.
Not no more, this ain't for thesoul to keep.
No, well, now you know, know,they want me gone, but they
waited too long.
Okay, rest in peace, big mama.
Look, I did something with mylife.
I fell on my face a coupletimes but finally got it right.
Shout out to my team.
They know that this wasn'tovernight Up and down the
interstate in the store on aFriday, sorry, okay, alright, he
takes my phone.
Talking breezy, she ain't neverseen me.
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Better, cut on the TV, tell hersuch a teenage dirtbag.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Alrighty Rahway.
What about you, ryder?
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Nah, I'm not around, anything he's doing.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
He a hater I got.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Usually, usually it's probably probably like Lil Baby
.
I knew he was going to say that, yeah, lil Baby is my guy, but
maybe, yeah, it's basically LilBaby, it's all Lil Baby.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
What song Lil Baby, give me the best one, it doesn't
even matter.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Any of them.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
What's the one that's the most popular one?
I like that one.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Not this one, skip.
This is kind of sad.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Next one what's the one, that the one, that's the
popular one you gotta turn onthat freestyle.
No, the one that he's the onehe's talking about.
I don't know like life mattersthat one, oh, you're talking
about, damn.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Kyle, you crazy, I don't know.
But hey, all you talking aboutBigger Picture, yeah, Bigger
Picture.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Play that one.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
You gotta play that freestyle.
That's the best one Before agame.
I'm not gonna lie, I listen tofreestyle before the game too.
She be in the loop.
Yeah, he's the best to do itStop.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
We're going to have a conversation about that.
I want to hear this which oneis this one?
This is Freestyle.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Yeah, play that bigger picture one.
The bigger picture one is agood one.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
Shout out to my neighbor this is the Freestyle,
the Freestyle.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
All his songs are great man, before the game I got
a whole playlist of just LilBaby.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
I got a whole Rod Wave playlist.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Rod Wave just makes me sad.
That's definitely sad.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
You a hater.
That's like listening to theOJs before the game so sad.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
He's going to fall asleep.
He's just following whateveryone says.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
That's what the internet thinks.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
I've stood by that.
That's what the internet thinks.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Who is this?
Who is this?
Speaker 4 (20:29):
When I was growing up , I was taught in American
history.
I think, this is the music.
It's a little baby, but it'slive Bigger picture.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Bigger picture yeah, this came out during COVID,
didn't it COVID song?
Yeah, it's a COVID song.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
This is a good song right here.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
This was a good song.
Everyone likes a little baby,though this was a good song.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
This was a good song, and of course, I believed it.
Everyone likes Lil Baby, though.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Not everyone likes Robby.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Come on, Lil Jack.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
No one can rock that.
Yeah, that's dope, that's dope.
So now I heard y'all say someof these folks were the greatest
ever.
Is that what I heard you say?
Speaker 2 (21:14):
He said Lil Baby, the greatest ever.
But I wave, not the best yet,so you stand on that, I stand on
that?
Speaker 1 (21:19):
How do you stand on that when Tupac Secure was alive
at some point?
Speaker 3 (21:22):
I mean I don't listen to him, so I'm not going to sit
here and act like I listen tohim him.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
But do me a favor, please.
You get a chance.
Just listen to some of tupac,all right, because I mean, to be
honest, some of the stuff thatlittle baby raps about is very
similar to what tupac is, right.
I mean he, you know, he gotsome stuff that you know, just
club music, but a lot of it ispolitically motivating.
So, yeah, you would like thatif you like little baby.
So who else y'all listening to?
Speaker 2 (21:50):
I listen, uh, I just listen to that new Drake album.
It's mid Like I'm not going tolie, it was some of the I wasn't
a fan of that.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Yeah, it was not that good Drake you sold, Drake you
sold.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Yeah, I listened to the song with J Cole.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Hey, that was hard, that was hard.
That was horrible, that waskind of off topic.
Yeah, she was irrelevant in thealbum, not going to lie.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
You guys read any good books lately.
You guys read at all.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
I'm actually reading a book called Relentless.
It's actually a pretty goodbook.
It's just talking about NBAplayers and their personalities
that a lot of people didn't knowabout.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Yeah, my dad gave me this book.
It's called the Champion'sMindset.
It's just about being.
It's not really about anythingsports-related, like any certain
sports.
It's about the mindset of howeverything's not going to go
your way and how just having topush through and having every
day be different.
There's a new battle everysingle day, but you've got to
push through and having everyday be different.
There's a new battle everysingle day, but you've got to
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push through and understand theend goal and enjoy the work
ethic, enjoy the stuff you haveto go through to get to it.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
So you guys know who Allen Iverson is right?
Yeah, Talk to me about.
What do you think about Allen?
Speaker 2 (23:08):
He's a great player, for sure.
I like the way he plays forsure.
He played different.
He was very aggressive, likeyeah, he was him, I'm not going
to lie, he was him, but I feellike he had a character.
He just had a character that hehad an image that didn't match
the NBA, I guess, and he justdidn't take no for an answer.
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He was just very relentless.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Yeah, I think he was a really good player.
I think he had some uniquethoughts about certain things.
I know he didn't lift weightsand stuff like that, so people
automatically painted a picturethat necessarily wasn't correct,
but it was just kind of theenergy he put off and they
automatically assumed that hewas this or that.
But I think he was a greatplayer.
(23:54):
He's definitely one of thegreatest ever and he's a good
point guard.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
He handled that ball really good.
He can handle the ball.
He can handle the ball reallywell.
Him or Kyrie got the best.
Who got the best right there,kyrie?
Kyrie yeah, I was going to sayKyrie liked that Big girl
watching Kyrie.
We got to go with Kyrie.
But don't get me wrong AI isclose second.
He's close second.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
He is one of his.
I'm going to tell you all abook to read when you get a
chance John Thompson.
He was his coach at Georgetownand he wrote a book called I
Came as a Shadow and it talksabout his experiences an
autobiography about hisexperiences coaching Georgetown
for all those years.
He talked about Islett Iverson,patrick Ewing he talked about,
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he was interested in.
He was such a powerful personthat the guy it was a guy named
Rayful Edmonds who was a bigdrug dealer in DC who was
hanging around his players andhe had to go to him and to
basically tell him look man, Ican't have you around his
players.
And he had to go to him and tobasically tell him look man, I
can't have you around my players.
He called him in for a meetingbecause he was buying them stuff
, pizza, letting them ride cars,and then he also talked about
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how he orchestrated some of thebiggest Nike deals ever because
he worked with Nike.
So that will be something goodfor you guys to check out.
I got a copy of it if you wantto check it out.
I got it on audiobook as well.
Anything you want to share withthe listening audience before
we go to the next segment.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
I'll glory to.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
God.
Yeah, without God I'm not evengoing to be here right now.
Honestly, I wouldn't be theperson I am today without God.
He really blessed me a crazyamount actually, and I just
thank him for everything he does.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Yeah, I'm the same way.
I appreciate everything he'sgiven me and never take any of
it for granted.
And I don't know if everyonebelieves in God, but if you
don't, you should think about it.
Just give it a chance, ofcourse.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Absolutely.
And before I go, you guys areall highly recruited as
student-athletes.
Right, Talk to us a little bitabout some of the places you're
looking at.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
I'm not really looking anywhere specific right
now, just because of how young Iam.
I'm a junior, of course.
I got four scholarships, fouroffers I got Kent State, Miami,
Ohio, Eastern Illinois, Omahabut I'm not really looking
nowhere.
No one's like oh yeah, I reallywant to go there.
I'm just enjoying the processjust because, like I said, I'm
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young.
I'm always enjoying it while Ican, but I just have fun.
Just have fun with it.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Yeah, I'm the same way.
I'm just trying to enjoy theprocess, not rush it at all,
because I'm a senior and this ismy last ride, so I've just been
trying to chill and just focuson the season and the team and
try to get as many wins as wecan this year and just enjoy it.
And then when that decisionneeds to be made, it'll be made.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
All right, just have fun with it.
Travel, go a lot of places.
It's fun.
College campuses are fun.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Yeah, I was just telling them, yesterday I went
to three college campuses in oneday.
I got left out at 10 in themorning.
We went to Wabash, depaul, thenwe went to Indiana State at
night, and so it is fun checkingthat process out.
Hey, I appreciate you.
I am honored to have yougentlemen on Grace the stage and
come out here and talk to me.
This has been a really, reallyintriguing conversation.
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To get to know you guys better,I feel like I have watched you
grow up.
Um, I appreciate all thememories that I've had with you
all, watching you all the wayback from playing in dirt road
leagues and, um, watching you inmiddle school and high school.
And so keep up the good workand know that the city's behind
you and we will continue to keepsupporting you.
And if you ever need anything,this is out of the mouth of
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babes the podcast for our futureleaders signing out- thank you.
Welcome to Out of the Mouth of Babes, the podcast for
our future leaders.
I am so excited today because Igot two of Richmond's elite in
the room.
I'm going to let them introducethemselves.
They're going to tell us theirfirst and last name, their GPA,
their grade, all the sports theyplay and anything they want to
share with us.
I'm just going to turn it overto you.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
My name is Cedric Horton.
I'm a junior, I got a 3.4 GPAand I play basketball.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
I'm Ryder Kate.
I'm a senior, I got a 3.9 GPAand I play basketball and golf.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
All right, welcome to the podcast for your future
leaders.
I'm going to just jump right inand start asking y'all
questions.
Talk to us a little bit aboutyour journey and what inspired
you to play sports.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
My journey was interesting.
I was just playing sports toplay sports pretty much.
Then I ended up pickingbasketball and.
I wasn't really good at it.
I was just playing it becauseto me it was fun.
Then I started taking itserious and I just kept getting
better, kept working andeverything took care of itself
and I'm gonna interrupt him fora second, because he was also a
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football player too.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
And man, I got some video.
I'm gonna start pulling thosevideos out the vault.
I used to just throw a sweepleft to Mason, a sweep right to
Zion, and then down the field toCedric, and then they got hoop
dreams.
All right, we on you, ryder.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
My story.
I just feel like I kind of grewup around basketball and I just
went back to Richmond schoolbecause I was a community
Christian when I was younger andthen all my friends played
basketball and then it kind ofjust developed like a love for
it.
When we started playing all thetime it just kind of developed
and turned into a stronger loveand following my dreams.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Now, ryder, you're also, and he won't talk a lot
about this, but you are anexceptional golf player too,
right yeah?
So talk to us.
I don't know much about it, butwhere do you hit?
Like, tell me how good you are.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Most people would say I'm pretty decent.
But that just kind of came frommy parents, my family, my dad,
went to Purdue and tried to gopro, so that was kind of always
in my family.
And then that just kind ofturned into more and more as I
got older and then I ended upbeing really good, so it all
turned out.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
So, like last year, you participated in golf.
And how far did you go?
We went to regionals.
Okay, now what aboutindividually?
You went to regionals as well.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yeah, I missed regionals by one shot.
I missed state by one shot.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
So this year we can see it, we can hope for a state
championship.
Yeah, we'll see All righty, allrighty, all right.
Talk to us a little bit aboutnow.
Now to be stellar athletes,that means you guys have to work
hard at it, right?
Yeah, and talk to me about yourdaily routine.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
My daily routine is really go to school, go home,
get some food I got to eat, andthen I might go get some shots
up, depending on the day, how Ifeel.
That just depends on howintense I work out.
So if I'm feeling good, I mightwork out pretty good, and then,
if I'm not feeling too good mylegs hurt or something I might
just stretch and get some shotsto keep my form right and just
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go from there, go home, eat somemore, probably play the game.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Yeah, for me.
I got weightlifting everysingle day, and then it's the
balance between legs and armsand all that fun stuff.
And then get shots up every day, usually like right after
school because I got half theA's, and then just try to eat a
lot, obviously, and keep gettingin the way and get stronger
every day.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
I lift every day too, just so that's clear.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
All right.
So how do you mentally preparefor the game?
So how do you mentally preparefor all of the rigorous um
expectations of basketball?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
um, I used to take it seriously.
I feel like I took it tooseriously.
So then I started, you know,chilling out, uh, just taking it
like it was just another game.
And that's when I startedplaying my best last year,
started seeing off a littleshaky, just started I was
thinking too much.
And then once I just startedletting it all go and just
pretty much just having fun withit and not really thinking,
just playing, that's when Iplayed my best.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Yeah, I agree, I think it's just you gotta go out
there and act like it's justsomething fun and it's not
something so serious, cuz whenyou start taking it so serious
then it just kinda ruins thevibe and start overthinking
stuff that you can do easily ona regular basis.
And I just try to keep itsimple, keep everything simple
and just get myself comfortableand acquainted with what I'm
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doing so I can perform at thebest level now.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
I want all our listeners out there to know that
, um, I have put my chair up alittle higher to to show that I
am a little taller than thesegentlemen, but how tall are both
of you?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I'm 6'5", but I tell everyone I'm like 6'6", I'm
basically the same 6'5", 6'6".
Speaker 1 (05:12):
And I'm 5'11".
Nutrition Do you guys havepeople to help you with your
nutrition?
Do you go to dieticians or dodo you have like a specific meal
that gets you energy?
And the reason why I asked thatquestion I was my daughter's.
My daughter plays ball, as youknow, and I seen on the side
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their coach brings sweet andsour patches for them and they
said something about the sugarhelps them.
I don't know.
Talk to me a little bit aboutyour nutrition.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Really for me.
My dad helps me with mynutrition, but all I really got
to do is just eat everything Ican see, just eat as much as I
can while lifting, just so thatmy lifting will show that I lift
.
But I just need to start eatingmore, and pretty much anything
gives me energy.
But my favorite is Italian food, like some lasagna, some pasta.
(06:07):
That gives me the most energyreally the secret to my balance
I'm not going to lie thatmacaroni and cheese and Gushers.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Gushers, macaroni and cheese.
Now I'm just going to keep itreal macaroni and cheese and
Gushers got me up to a littlebit over 3.
It gives me balance.
I'm not going to lie it givesme the bounce.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
I think both my parents are pretty on me about
the nutrition and just eatingthe right things because I can
get off the course pretty easily.
But I don't know.
I try to eat mostprotein-packed and most
calorie-packed things and justtry to keep gaining weight
because it's a struggle with allthe workouts and stuff to keep
your weight up.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
So what are some of the challenges you guys have
faced in your career, and thenhow did you guys overcome those
challenges?
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I'll say my biggest challenge was probably just
feeling like I let my parentsdown, I'm not doing something
good enough and they're justwanting the best for me.
So when they get on me, I justtake it the wrong way, and
pretty much the way I dealt withit was just suck it up, just do
it change.
Do what they say, change yourworkouts, do whatever, and the
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results take care of itself.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Yeah, I would say the same.
Basically it's justunderperforming and stuff like
that, like taking it too seriousonce again, just not feeling
like you did what you know youcan do every day and like you
practice it and it just doesn'tturn out how you thought it was
going to.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
So who are your role models and who do you look up to
?
Speaker 2 (07:45):
I would say my biggest role model would be my
mom.
Just because she's always beenthere for me, it's not always
been good for us.
Just growing up and just seeingher persevere and just fight
through and then get to whereshe's at now, it's just I just
look up to her.
I want to be like her one day,just be able to fight through
everything and just be a goodmom, a good parent.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Yeah, mine's probably both my parents my dad and my
mom Just watching them work sohard and everything they do and
treating me so well, even whenstuff in life probably wasn't
going great for them.
But they never showed it andnever took it out on me and
always gave me the bestopportunity for everything like
sports and all that.
So I appreciate them and tryingto strive to be like them and
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shout-out to Pops you know,Everything, basketball.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
It's all because of him.
My mom's more of life.
I go to her when it's aboutlife and basketball.
I can go to my dad.
I can go to him about life, itdon't matter, but I go more to
basketball to my dad.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Just because he does so much research, he knows a lot
.
So shout out to Pops.
So you guys have had some youknow up until this point pretty
successful last couple ofseasons, and with that comes
memorable moments.
Talk to us a little bit aboutsome memorable moments that you
guys have had on the court.
Now I've seen some of yourmemorable moments.
There's times where I've seensome of your memorable moments.
(09:07):
There's times where I've seen Ican be at home and I see a
TikTok flash of one of y'alldunking or smacking the ball or
something smacking the ball fromsomebody.
But talk to us a little bitabout some of those memorable
moments.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
I've had a few.
One that really sticks out tome was probably winning the
wedding.
You know, just finally winningthat for Richmond, you know we
ain't winning.
I don't think we won.
That was the first time.
And just winning our tournamentand doing it for the community,
that's a very memorable momentto me.
Just being able to win it withmy friends, doing it with my
friends makes it even better.
And another one would probablybe probably against Franklin
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County.
I had six points that game.
I think I had my head down thewhole game mad, but just my
teammates being there for metelling me I'm good, picking up
the load and overperforming,while I was just not playing
good and they didn't let thataffect them and they just made
sure I was straight.
So it's just meant a lot to methat they were there for me.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Yeah, winning the wedding obviously was a great
accomplishment for the team.
We've been talking about thatsince we was in second grade and
it's just awesome to see thatactually come to life.
Probably another great memorywas just like our first win for
Coach Wright.
I think that was definitely acrazy thing.
It was just crazy to see thecommunity out there and everyone
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out there to support him and beout there just trying to watch
the Richmond basketball game.
And I was participating in myfreshman year, which was with
another coach, and it wasn't thegreatest year ever and the
greatest experience I ever had.
So it was great to be out therewith Coach Wright and when he
was out there with us, it wasjust an awesome experience to
get a win for him get away fromhim.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
So you know, one of the things that I know you guys
experience is pressure.
Right, if you walk into thehalls of the Tiernan Center you
look on the wall.
I remember seeing there's a lotof your family members that
graced those halls, graced thoseHall of Fames.
And I know Ryder, your dad's upthere, and you have Cedric, you
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have several cousins and unclesup there.
How do you live up to thepressures of one day wanting to
at least grace the hallway withyour picture on the wall?
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Honestly, I'm not going to lie.
I don't even think about thatas much as what you would think.
Yeah, I want to be up there oneday, but I'm just worried about
the present right now.
The future is going to takecare of itself.
So pretty much I'm just playingevery game like it's my last
game, just so.
If I play every game like that,there's no doubt that I should
be on that wall.
If I keep playing Like everygame is my last, yeah, I don't
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feel like it's a pressure.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
It's just awesome to have all those people around us
as we've grown up and stuff,because a bunch of people have
been great influences on us inbasketball, golf, whatever.
It was just trying to get us towork harder and love what we do
and just show us that it's anopportunity and we need to take
it seriously in all aspects.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yeah, I just feel like they're just pushing them.
Being up there is just pushingus to be better than them,
because a lot of people want tosee you succeed, want to see you
be better.
Some people don't, but thepeople up there want to see you
do better than them.
They'll make the same mistakesthey made, so they like to tell
us a lot about where they messedup or what they could have done
better in some situations, justso that we don't make those
same mistakes and we thank themfor that what advice would you
(12:34):
live, you leave to the futurered devils, you know, your
little brothers and cousins andtheir friends.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
What would you tell them?
Something that they need tostart doing now um, uh.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
So my first year I felt like high school gonna take
forever, but I'm already ajunior now I feel like I was
just a freshman yesterday.
Just take everything.
Don't take it for granted.
Just live in the moment andjust have fun, because it all
goes by in a blink of an eye.
It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Yeah, I'm going to go off that I didn't get a
freshman year, basically becauseof COVID.
So just take every singlemoment in and enjoy it all you
can, because it'll be gone sofast, like I'm a senior and I
still feel like I'm a freshman,about to start walking the halls
.
So it's just crazy how fast itgoes by.
And just enjoy it so much.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Yeah, be smart with it.
Be smart with it.
We're not saying just dowhatever Like you know, have fun
with it, but don't do nothingstupid.
Just do whatever Like you know,have fun with it, but don't do
nothing stupid.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
So I grew up in an era where there are some really
good basketball being played, soI'm going to ask you guys who's
your favorite.
First of all, who's yourall-time favorite basketball
players?
First, let's start off.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Who do you think is the greatest basketball player
of all?
Speaker 1 (13:59):
time, and who's your all-time favorite?
Speaker 3 (14:00):
I think the greatest of all time.
Uh, pressure, go ahead, you gofor it.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Um, my greatest all-time would probably be no,
not your, the greatest of alltime, and then your favorite, I
don't know, shalange, I'm goingto go with MJ, just because
that's always what I've stood by, and yeah, that's just always
what I've stood by.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
But my most personal favorite is Paul George, because
the way he handles himself andthe way he goes around and can
play like every single spot, itdoesn't matter, he can defend,
defend, score, all that.
He's just a great leader allaround.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Goat, yeah, lebron got all the stats.
But come on, Michael Jordan.
To go to three Pete's, come on,yeah.
And then my personal favorite,it's gotta be Kevin Durant
greatest score to touch thebasketball.
Like, who can guard him?
No one.
Seven foot point guard come on,he's him.
I can't mess with him.
Who can guard him?
No one.
Seven-foot point guard Come on,he's him.
No one can mess with him.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
I can respect that.
So I grew up in the.
You know I'm from northwestIndiana and, being from Gary, we
got all the Chicago stations.
So for us watching the Bulls,it was the Michael Jordan.
So we went through that wholeera.
So, yeah, michael Jordan for meis the greatest of all time.
But I also like other players.
Now you may not know this, butI dibbled and dabbled in
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basketball.
Now don't let the size fool you, because I got a killer
crossover and I got a killer hop, step over your head.
Hey man, you better ask somebody.
But I'm really known forfouling, so I'll just keep it
real with you.
If you come in the paint,you're going to hit the ground,
at least the first time.
That's what everyone always saysI'm trying to tell you and I
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wouldn't do it with y'allbecause I mess around and I
don't want to hurt you but backin the day I was known for that.
But I like Dennis Rodman, Ilike those type of guys who,
embodied like working hard,didn't necessarily care about
scoring, but what they reallycared about was rebounding and
playing defense.
So if you were to ask me whoare my, you know my favorites.
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Now I don't see a lot of thosetype of guys nowadays.
Now you guys may watch morebasketball, but are there guys
out there like those guys?
Speaker 2 (16:09):
There is, but there's not as many as there used to be
, just because a lot of peoplenow think winning a game is
scoring 30 points.
But there's a lot of littlethings you can do.
But a lot of people just thinkI just got scored 30 points,
we're going to win.
But some people have differentroles, whether that be I just
need to rebound, play somedefense or just pass the ball,
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assist, not turn it over.
But a lot of people just thinkgoing out and getting 30 points
is a good thing.
It's really not, unless you'vegot that role.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Yeah, I think the Warriors got a lot of guys that
can work really hard, like theydo a good job recruiting guys
like Draymond and Gary Paytonand all of them recruiting guys
like Draymond and Gary Paytonall of them.
I think they recruit very well.
If you watch some of theirgames, you can see some of those
guys.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
I would say Draymond does kind of embody that.
He's gonna get up in your faceand kind of bully you around.
Music you guys are thisgeneration of music.
What do you guys listen to?
If you had before a game, who'sin the?
I was about to a game.
Who's in the?
I was about to say who's in thecd player?
I tell you my age, but who's onthe iphone?
Speaker 2 (17:15):
this is a surprising one, but, rodway, I'm not gonna
lie, rodway, be in my ear,rodway he in my ears, he give me
right.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
I don't even know who that is.
You don't need he's the best.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
He's the best can you hey?
Speaker 1 (17:27):
let me hear song.
What's the name of the song?
Speaker 2 (17:29):
I listened to a song called MJ Story.
You know that's one that getsme right.
Is it like a slow song?
Nah, a lot of his music is slow.
It's more like you know, chillout Singing.
Really he likes to sing.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Okay, that'd be going on before the game.
That's one song I play forevery game.
Honestly, that song is on theother time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, let'srock and roll, say I'm the good
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bro Stealing out the store.
Not no more, this ain't for thesoul to keep.
No, well, now you know, know,they want me gone, but they
waited too long.
Okay, rest in peace, big mama.
Look, I did something with mylife.
I fell on my face a coupletimes but finally got it right.
Shout out to my team.
They know that this wasn'tovernight Up and down the
interstate in the store on aFriday, sorry, okay, alright, he
takes my phone.
Talking breezy, she ain't neverseen me.
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Better, cut on the TV, tell hersuch a teenage dirtbag.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Alrighty Rahway.
What about you, ryder?
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Nah, I'm not around, anything he's doing.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
He a hater I got.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Usually, usually it's probably probably like Lil Baby
.
I knew he was going to say that, yeah, lil Baby is my guy, but
maybe, yeah, it's basically LilBaby, it's all Lil Baby.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
What song Lil Baby, give me the best one, it doesn't
even matter.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Any of them.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
What's the one that's the most popular one?
I like that one.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Not this one, skip.
This is kind of sad.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Next one what's the one, that the one, that's the
popular one you gotta turn onthat freestyle.
No, the one that he's the onehe's talking about.
I don't know like life mattersthat one, oh, you're talking
about, damn.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Kyle, you crazy, I don't know.
But hey, all you talking aboutBigger Picture, yeah, Bigger
Picture.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Play that one.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
You gotta play that freestyle.
That's the best one Before agame.
I'm not gonna lie, I listen tofreestyle before the game too.
She be in the loop.
Yeah, he's the best to do itStop.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
We're going to have a conversation about that.
I want to hear this which oneis this one?
This is Freestyle.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Yeah, play that bigger picture one.
The bigger picture one is agood one.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
Shout out to my neighbor this is the Freestyle,
the Freestyle.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
All his songs are great man, before the game I got
a whole playlist of just LilBaby.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
I got a whole Rod Wave playlist.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Rod Wave just makes me sad.
That's definitely sad.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
You a hater.
That's like listening to theOJs before the game so sad.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
He's going to fall asleep.
He's just following whateveryone says.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
That's what the internet thinks.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
I've stood by that.
That's what the internet thinks.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Who is this?
Who is this?
Speaker 4 (20:29):
When I was growing up , I was taught in American
history.
I think, this is the music.
It's a little baby, but it'slive Bigger picture.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Bigger picture yeah, this came out during COVID,
didn't it COVID song?
Yeah, it's a COVID song.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
This is a good song right here.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
This was a good song.
Everyone likes a little baby,though this was a good song.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
This was a good song, and of course, I believed it.
Everyone likes Lil Baby, though.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Not everyone likes Robby.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Come on, Lil Jack.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
No one can rock that.
Yeah, that's dope, that's dope.
So now I heard y'all say someof these folks were the greatest
ever.
Is that what I heard you say?
Speaker 2 (21:14):
He said Lil Baby, the greatest ever.
But I wave, not the best yet,so you stand on that, I stand on
that?
Speaker 1 (21:19):
How do you stand on that when Tupac Secure was alive
at some point?
Speaker 3 (21:22):
I mean I don't listen to him, so I'm not going to sit
here and act like I listen tohim him.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
But do me a favor, please.
You get a chance.
Just listen to some of tupac,all right, because I mean, to be
honest, some of the stuff thatlittle baby raps about is very
similar to what tupac is, right.
I mean he, you know, he gotsome stuff that you know, just
club music, but a lot of it ispolitically motivating.
So, yeah, you would like thatif you like little baby.
So who else y'all listening to?
Speaker 2 (21:50):
I listen, uh, I just listen to that new Drake album.
It's mid Like I'm not going tolie, it was some of the I wasn't
a fan of that.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Yeah, it was not that good Drake you sold, Drake you
sold.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Yeah, I listened to the song with J Cole.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Hey, that was hard, that was hard.
That was horrible, that waskind of off topic.
Yeah, she was irrelevant in thealbum, not going to lie.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
You guys read any good books lately.
You guys read at all.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
I'm actually reading a book called Relentless.
It's actually a pretty goodbook.
It's just talking about NBAplayers and their personalities
that a lot of people didn't knowabout.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Yeah, my dad gave me this book.
It's called the Champion'sMindset.
It's just about being.
It's not really about anythingsports-related, like any certain
sports.
It's about the mindset of howeverything's not going to go
your way and how just having topush through and having every
day be different.
There's a new battle everysingle day, but you've got to
push through and having everyday be different.
There's a new battle everysingle day, but you've got to
(22:53):
push through and understand theend goal and enjoy the work
ethic, enjoy the stuff you haveto go through to get to it.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
So you guys know who Allen Iverson is right?
Yeah, Talk to me about.
What do you think about Allen?
Speaker 2 (23:08):
He's a great player, for sure.
I like the way he plays forsure.
He played different.
He was very aggressive, likeyeah, he was him, I'm not going
to lie, he was him, but I feellike he had a character.
He just had a character that hehad an image that didn't match
the NBA, I guess, and he justdidn't take no for an answer.
(23:31):
He was just very relentless.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Yeah, I think he was a really good player.
I think he had some uniquethoughts about certain things.
I know he didn't lift weightsand stuff like that, so people
automatically painted a picturethat necessarily wasn't correct,
but it was just kind of theenergy he put off and they
automatically assumed that hewas this or that.
But I think he was a greatplayer.
(23:54):
He's definitely one of thegreatest ever and he's a good
point guard.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
He handled that ball really good.
He can handle the ball.
He can handle the ball reallywell.
Him or Kyrie got the best.
Who got the best right there,kyrie?
Kyrie yeah, I was going to sayKyrie liked that Big girl
watching Kyrie.
We got to go with Kyrie.
But don't get me wrong AI isclose second.
He's close second.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
He is one of his.
I'm going to tell you all abook to read when you get a
chance John Thompson.
He was his coach at Georgetownand he wrote a book called I
Came as a Shadow and it talksabout his experiences an
autobiography about hisexperiences coaching Georgetown
for all those years.
He talked about Islett Iverson,patrick Ewing he talked about,
(24:40):
he was interested in.
He was such a powerful personthat the guy it was a guy named
Rayful Edmonds who was a bigdrug dealer in DC who was
hanging around his players andhe had to go to him and to
basically tell him look man, Ican't have you around his
players.
And he had to go to him and tobasically tell him look man, I
can't have you around my players.
He called him in for a meetingbecause he was buying them stuff
, pizza, letting them ride cars,and then he also talked about
(25:01):
how he orchestrated some of thebiggest Nike deals ever because
he worked with Nike.
So that will be something goodfor you guys to check out.
I got a copy of it if you wantto check it out.
I got it on audiobook as well.
Anything you want to share withthe listening audience before
we go to the next segment.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
I'll glory to.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
God.
Yeah, without God I'm not evengoing to be here right now.
Honestly, I wouldn't be theperson I am today without God.
He really blessed me a crazyamount actually, and I just
thank him for everything he does.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Yeah, I'm the same way.
I appreciate everything he'sgiven me and never take any of
it for granted.
And I don't know if everyonebelieves in God, but if you
don't, you should think about it.
Just give it a chance, ofcourse.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Absolutely.
And before I go, you guys areall highly recruited as
student-athletes.
Right, Talk to us a little bitabout some of the places you're
looking at.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
I'm not really looking anywhere specific right
now, just because of how young Iam.
I'm a junior, of course.
I got four scholarships, fouroffers I got Kent State, Miami,
Ohio, Eastern Illinois, Omahabut I'm not really looking
nowhere.
No one's like oh yeah, I reallywant to go there.
I'm just enjoying the processjust because, like I said, I'm
(26:17):
young.
I'm always enjoying it while Ican, but I just have fun.
Just have fun with it.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Yeah, I'm the same way.
I'm just trying to enjoy theprocess, not rush it at all,
because I'm a senior and this ismy last ride, so I've just been
trying to chill and just focuson the season and the team and
try to get as many wins as wecan this year and just enjoy it.
And then when that decisionneeds to be made, it'll be made.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
All right, just have fun with it.
Travel, go a lot of places.
It's fun.
College campuses are fun.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Yeah, I was just telling them, yesterday I went
to three college campuses in oneday.
I got left out at 10 in themorning.
We went to Wabash, depaul, thenwe went to Indiana State at
night, and so it is fun checkingthat process out.
Hey, I appreciate you.
I am honored to have yougentlemen on Grace the stage and
come out here and talk to me.
This has been a really, reallyintriguing conversation.
(27:13):
To get to know you guys better,I feel like I have watched you
grow up.
Um, I appreciate all thememories that I've had with you
all, watching you all the wayback from playing in dirt road
leagues and, um, watching you inmiddle school and high school.
And so keep up the good workand know that the city's behind
you and we will continue to keepsupporting you.
And if you ever need anything,this is out of the mouth of
(27:37):
babes the podcast for our futureleaders signing out- thank you.
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