January 29, 2025 • 42 mins
Step onto the mat with us as we spotlight two incredible athletes, Marlee Wampler and Key’Aysha Golden, who are trailblazers in the world of girls' wrestling at Richmond High School. With passion and grit, they share their journey from stepping into the wrestling room for the first time to competing fiercely at regionals and sectionals. Their stories reveal not only the challenges they faced, such as overcoming fear and injuries, but also their pride in making history as part of the inaugural girls' team. Their candid reflections highlight how they've carved out a legacy in their school's athletic history.
Experience the powerful camaraderie and growth unfolding within this pioneering team. Marlee and Key’Aysha unveil the deep bonds of friendship that resemble a sisterhood, offering each other unwavering support both on and off the mat. We delve into the evolution of their wrestling techniques, including mastering the art of the crossface, and discuss the growing visibility and recognition of girls' wrestling. From the promise of NCAA scholarships to the excitement surrounding the first girls' NCAA championship, this episode underscores the transformative potential of wrestling for young women in Richmond.
Embark on a journey of resilience, inspiration, and friendship as these young wrestlers share their dreams of competing at state and international levels. Gain insights into how they balance wrestling with other commitments and navigate the pressures of social media and peer opinions. The athletes provide personal anecdotes that showcase the strength of their community and the life lessons they've learned through wrestling. With aspirations that stretch beyond the mat, Marlee and Key’Aysha invite listeners to discover the empowering world of girls' wrestling, where perseverance and passion pave the way for future leaders.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to Out of the Mouth of Babes, a podcast for
our future leaders.
Today I have two exceptionalyoung women, but first I'm going
to start off by letting themintroduce themselves.
They're going to tell you whothey are, where they're from,
what school they attend and someof the things that they're
involved in.
Starting off to my right, whome?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello, I am Marlee Wampler.
I go to Richmond High Schooland I'm a part of girls
wrestling.
I do student council too.
I'm Keisha Golden and I attendRichmond High School and I'm
from Richmond, indiana, and Iplay volleyball and I play
softball and I do girlswrestling.
I play volleyball and I playsoftball and I do girls
(00:43):
wrestling.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
All right, now I'm just going to set some ground
rules here first, before we getstarted.
I've got a lot of questions foryou, young ladies, and I know
this may be your first time inthe studio, so it is very
important to get close to themicrophone when you're speaking.
So you guys both have somethingin common, right?
You guys both are members ofthe girls wrestling team.
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How did you first get intowrestling and what motivated you
to join the sport?
Now, the way this will work isthat I'll ask a question and
both of you all will have achance to start, so I'm going to
point out first to Marley first, and then Kiesha will answer
the second one first.
So the question is how did youget into wrestling and what
motivated you to join the sport?
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I got into wrestling mostly from my brother's friends
, because they all do wrestlingand we would just wrestle
sometimes.
And then me and my best friend,layla, decided that we wanted
to try wrestling because we justnever tried anything like it
before and we ended up reallyliking it.
Yeah, tried anything like itbefore and we ended up really
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liking it.
so, yeah, um, I got intowrestling because, like when I
was little, I would like wrestleon my cousins and stuff with my
family and then, like um, oneday, like after volleyball
season, marley was like youshould join girls wrestling and
I was like I don't know, I'llthink about it.
And then, like a month later, Istarted doing it and I liked it
and I was good well, both ofyou young ladies had some
success as freshmen.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Both of you guys went to regionals, which is one step
away from the state tournament.
Now, the most important partabout wrestling right now in
Indiana is that it is now asanctioned sport IHSA sanctioned
sport.
So what does it mean to you alland this is starting off with
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Kiki for you to be part of theinaugural girls' season in
Richmond High School?
Because, as you know, when youlook at the record books and you
go down the line, 100 yearsfrom now, there's going to be a
picture and that picture isgoing to show you all on that
picture.
So how does that make you feelto be part of that history?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
It feels good.
I don't know, I'm just readyfor the future.
Yeah, that's it.
I feel really good to be a partof it.
It means a lot to be the firstgirls wrestling team at our high
school and I'm just glad thatI'm able to be a part of it and
(03:15):
just make history at our schoolnow, as you know, wrestling is
difficult, um and um.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
There are some times that it's tiresome.
What were some of thechallenges you faced during your
first year of wrestling?
Because it's different thansoftball and it's different than
volleyball.
So what are some of thechallenges that you faced going
off with Marley?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I think a challenge I faced was probably just being
scared of my opponent and justthinking, because she's been
wrestling for a lot longer timethan me, that she's just going
to be way better than me.
So that was probably one of mybiggest problems I faced this
season.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
I feel like I was doing great all season and then
I got hurt with my shoulder andthen I feel like we've done a
lot of wonderful things.
Can you share with me one ofyour memorable moments,
something that you're the mostproud of, that you dealt with
this year?
Speaker 2 (04:36):
At sectionals.
I was going for the first placespot and then we wrestled.
I lost, but I was still proudof myself because I got second
place and I beat the other girlsin my weight class what about
you?
um, I think I'd say the same forKiki.
Probably just like almostwinning first place, that meant
(05:00):
a lot, and it was a veryhumbling experience when I
didn't, because I realized thatI just need to, like, try harder
and just do my best, and eventhough I didn't get first place,
I was still proud of myself, soyeah now.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
We were fortunate this year with girls wrestling
that we had about in access,about 15 young ladies.
How was your support from yourteammates?
Speaker 2 (05:28):
um, the support from my teammates were great.
I love my teammates.
Um, we all have a really closebond and that's probably my
favorite thing about this wholeseason is just meeting such
amazing people.
Just yeah, I love my teammates.
I'm very grateful for myteammates.
They're all so sweet and kindand I just love how like
welcoming they were and I feellike I have a special bond with
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each one of them, like, andthey're all different because I
just we all just are so close.
We're like sisters kind of.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yeah, now, I mentioned to you all that there
was some wrestling happeningthis morning with young ladies.
I mentioned to you all thatthere was some wrestling
happening this morning withyoung ladies.
How important is it for younggirls to see you all wrestling
and competing, and what do youwant to do to help young ladies
out in the community and tobecome wrestlers?
Speaker 2 (06:16):
I love watching little kids wrestle, Like it's
so funny and I just likesometimes I just want to help
them because, like they'restruggling sometimes, but like
if I would have started at theirage.
I feel like I just want to helpthem Because, like they're
struggling sometimes, but likeif I would have started at their
age, I feel like I would be theexact same.
So I just want to help them,but it makes me happy seeing how
little they are wrestling.
I love seeing the younger girlswrestle Because I know there's
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a future for our wrestling teamat the high school and just in
general.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
I love to see little girls trying out for wrestling.
Now, wrestling is a sport thatit's sequential and you have to
learn the fundamentals.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
How has your wrestling technique and mental
approach evolved over the season?
At the beginning of the seasonI was just being aggressive and
throwing girls around and stuffand just whipping out a quick
little headlock and slammingthem.
I didn't really know what to dofor real.
And then one day in a match Iforgot how to do a crossface and
I was just like Hanley, Iforgot and you were like what it
(07:24):
did.
I just remembered one day atpractice?
Speaker 1 (07:30):
yeah, what was the question?
The question is how is yourtechnique developed over time?
Speaker 2 (07:35):
okay.
So the beginning of the seasonI feel like I wasn't like really
focusing on what I was doing.
I was just doing it, so itwasn't really working out for me
and the girls they knew how todefend whatever I was doing.
I was just doing it, so itwasn't really working out for me
and the girls they knew how todefend whatever I was doing.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
So, yeah, by the end of the season I think I got way
better at controlling what I'mdoing now, if there was
something that you would saythat is the most significant
improvement, the thing that youlearned the most, it could be a
move or technique, or justconversation.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
What would you say that was?
Speaker 1 (08:18):
That's a good question, so something that you
developed the most it could be.
I love a good cross face A goodcross face.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I love.
A good cross face, tell I lovea good, a good cross face I love
.
A good cross face tell me whyyou like a good cross face
because, like, like, it's likehitting them in their face but
you're not because your handslike how it's like like that,
like so, like I feel like I'mlike punching them in their face
but then, like, I like likeseeing their jaw like go to the
shoulder, like I know thatsounds crazy.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
But like that sounds crazy, I know that sounds crazy,
but like it does sound crazy.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
I know that sounds crazy, but like, I just like,
like I don't know, I just like,like seeing them crawl up into
like a little circle and thenthey turn on their back and I
pin them.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
I love that feeling how do you see wrestling
evolving in the years inrichmond and in the state?
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I can see wrestling evolving a lot because it's
already becoming a really bigsport.
Especially where we are at,there's a lot of little kids
that like to wrestle, so I feellike it's going to be a really
big thing in Richmond.
I feel like it's going to getbig because girls wrestling in
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general they just made it d1.
I guess I think that's what Isaw.
Yeah, they like made it d1because at first it was just
stuck at d3 for so long and nowit's d1 and I feel like it's
gonna like involve a lot withover time so what when?
Speaker 1 (09:42):
um kiesha akaiki.
So I'll interchange that.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yeah, I was saying Kiki.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
So with Key Asia Kiki is saying that it just came out
on Friday, I believe that theNCAA has sanctioned girls
wrestling as its 91st sport.
So that means there now will beopportunities for young ladies
to go to Division I schools andget scholarships and wrestle,
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and next year in March or Aprilwill be the first girls NCAA
championship.
So that is really exciting.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
That is really exciting, yeah, so that is
really exciting, that is reallyexciting.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah, yeah.
So tell me something that youwant to leave for young ladies
in Richmond High School whenyou're done with wrestling.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
What kind of program do you want to leave for them?
I don't know, but I do think inrichmond we need like way more
girl programs for us girls.
So I don't know, probably somesummer programs.
I feel like.
I feel like, like the girls inrichmond, I feel like there
should be more opportunities andstuff handed to them.
There's not a lot.
I was telling my mom today howyou've given me a lot of
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opportunities for new things andstuff.
Girls wrestling has brought alot to me.
I feel like the little kidsaround.
They would look up to the girlswrestling team if there was
more things out there.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
So walking down the hall at school you got people
know you're wrestlers.
How has the attitude changedaround school knowing that you
guys are wrestlers?
Speaker 2 (11:39):
It really hasn't changed, like I don't know.
Maybe people are always askinghow it's going and stuff and
like how our tournaments went,but I don't think people are
scared of nobody's scared.
Nobody's scared, they're justlike that's a good.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
She wrestles yeah, you feel like people are
supportive though, right?
Yeah, yeah a lot she had to getin her um their lingo, so I
hope that it's appropriate.
But I just want to make sure.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
It's appropriate, it's all good.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
It's all good, and so one of the things you guys need
to understand about a podcast,although I'm asking you guys a
lot of questions, it's more of aconversation, right?
So it's not like I know we'vekind of started it off robotic,
like me.
Hey, so tell me this and youtell me that and you tell me
this, but it's more about justhaving a conversation, so so, so
(12:40):
let's yeah, so that's just aconversation and podcast.
People have random conversations, right, so let's.
And you're sitting by thewindow, so you would be right,
so let's.
So, so, so let's just talk alittle bit about the future of
wrestling.
You know, if you guys right nowcould go to a group of young
ladies and give them advice,what advice would you give them?
Speaker 2 (13:05):
I would say, at least try it before.
Yeah, because a lot of girlsare like no, I'm not going to
wrestle, I'm not doing that,that's for boys or something.
Or I don't want to get hurt orsomething.
I'm like just go one day andtry it and you're going to see
that you like it.
Yeah, I think I hear most isgirls saying that they're scared
to do wrestling, and I don'tthink it's really scary.
(13:26):
I think they should just try itbecause it's actually really
fun.
Now, it's actually really fun.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Now, when you guys came home that day, whatever day
that was, and you said Mom,Granny, Grandpa, Grandpa, Uncle,
I want to wrestle, Tell me thereaction of the folks in your
home.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
I think she didn't think I was going to stick with
it.
She thought it was just goingto be like a go try it and then
just like not like it thing,like she didn't think it was
serious.
But now that she sees that I'mreally serious about wrestling,
she's really proud.
My mom and my dad, they weresupportive.
(14:10):
My mom, as soon as I got home Iwas like oh, I'm going going to
wrestling tomorrow.
I forgot to tell you.
She was like what, when theyhave a girls wrestling team?
And I was like Hanley, he's beenwanting me to do it.
He's been asking me since sixthgrade and I told him I would in
sixth grade and he remembered.
So I pinky promise.
And then she was like okay.
And she was.
I was like and he's gonna letme borrow some shoes real fast
(14:31):
just to see if I like it,because he doesn't want me to
buy or spend money unless I likeit.
And she was like okay.
And then my dad the next day,he was like I think you should
and you should stick with itbecause you're just like very
talented and I think you wouldsucceed in it.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
What was your first practice?
Like the first time you wentinto a wrestling room, were you
nervous, excited or mixedfeelings or both?
Speaker 2 (14:58):
I was really nervous, Like I thought I was about to
get beat up or something.
I was like I don't know what todo.
I wasn't nervous, I didn'tthink I was going to get beat up
or something.
But I was like I don't knowwhat to do what was the most
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exciting thing that you learnedwithin the first few weeks of
wrestling?
Um, I don't know.
Probably taking a shot, uh,eating on on um when you have a
thing when you have a meet Eatafter weigh-ins.
That's very important.
That was the most surprisingthing yeah because after that
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one day I was scared.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Now, have you guys Always made weight?
Yes, no Tell me about theprocess Of like, because one of
the things, just to be clear,that I said to you all was that
I did not want to force you tobe, let you know, losing weight,
but tell me about somethingthat like.
(16:06):
So tell me what was yourthought process as it relates to
, you know, losing weight, beingin a weight class.
Focusing in on this is where Ineed to be.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
I thought it was going to be really hard to
maintain my weight.
But it's actually not that hard.
If you just I don't know, Idon't know.
I just thought it was going tobe harder to maintain my weight.
It was kind of easy for me.
I don't know, I was just.
I've never been off weight.
I think I've been under Under,yeah, just by a little ounce.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
So, as you know, wrestling physically and
mentally can be challenging,right?
Yeah, I mean it can put you ina position where you are
extremely you leave practice.
You're extremely tired, you'rementally tired.
How did you guys push throughsome of those days when coaches
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yelling at you and you don'tunderstand why the coach is
yelling at you?
How do you push through that?
You don't understand why thecoach is yelling at you.
How do you push through that?
What do you do to put yourselfinto a position where you can
overcome some of those things?
Speaker 2 (17:21):
I just give it to God .
Just give it to God.
I just think about how mysenior year I got a Wednesday.
Yeah, also having a goodmindset.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
That's important.
So I like that to have a goodmindset.
And then you also mentioned youknow turning it over to God you
know what I mean and prayingabout it and working through
that.
So those are very key, keycomponents to dealing with
adversity In wrestling.
This year there were someobstacles, and particularly in
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competitions.
How did you face thoseobstacles?
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I just tried to do my best and just think of the
positive outlook of everything.
If I do lose, it's okay, aslong as I just gave it my best
and just tried my best Everytournament.
That was a question, right.
It was tournament, Everytournament, I would go in and I
would just be like I got to cook.
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I got to cook I got to cook, Igot to get first, and if I don't
get first, it's okay, becauseat least I tried.
But I want first, I need first,I got to have that, I need that
, I want that, I need that.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Is there a wrestler wrestler, male or female and I
know it's hard because you guysmay not have focused a lot about
, you know, on the sport but whoinspired you?
Have you guys had a chance toreally look at and there hadn't
been too many um, you know, um,there hadn't been too many, um,
you know, women wrestlers.
Besides, locally we have somevery talented young lady
wrestlers, but are there any?
Is there any wrestler that thatinspires you?
Like um famous famous or localor people that you've seen
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probably more local.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Like people have wrestled and just like my.
Like people have wrestled in myweight class.
I just like look like, look upto them and like that's going to
be me next year.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
So older wrestlers that?
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Yeah, and just like I don't know A lot of the girls
on the center field team, theywere very inspiring.
They're very sweet and kind.
It's not I don't really havelike famous people, it's like
more local, like Claire.
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One day at our tournament wemet this girl named Claire.
Oh, yes, I love Claire and shewent against our Claire and
she's so sweet and she was justlike she was just like she was
just so sweet in like giving ustips on what to do and stuff and
helping us and stuff, and shewasn't rude.
Yeah, she was really.
A lot of girls, a lot of thegirls that you meet during
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wrestling they're not rude, theylook intimidating sometimes,
but they're like so sweet yeahand I believe um claire was from
switzerland county.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Yeah, she made it to state.
Yeah, she made it to stay.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
I seen that and I took a screenshot and sent it to
the gc because I was like, looky'all, there goes.
Claire, yeah, she was very kind, and we like just met her that
day and she was, yeah, and Zuriand Kami, they're sweet too.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Yeah, and one day we're going to have Zuri and
Kami up here as well, so I'vealready talked to them I it.
So that'd be a great time.
Yeah, that would be a good, andmaybe we can get some
intermingle, you know, like withyou guys, with them as well.
What skill have you beenworking on the most since you
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started wrestling and what's thefun like what's been the most
fun to improve on?
So what's what skill ortechnique or take down or that
you feel like you worked on themost all season?
Speaker 2 (21:05):
I really like working on my pins because it's always
cool to do like a cool pin.
But I think I what I've looked.
Oh my gosh what I've workedmost on is probably my double
legs, because I love double legs.
Um, I don't really know.
I practice, like I do stuff atpractice, but like when I'm on
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the mat, like I forget about allthat and I just go out there
and wrestle.
And like I just know like, oh,I got to slam her, I got to pin
her, I might hit a quick cradle.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
So now, we didn't talk about this at the beginning
, but tell the folks out therein podcast land, what weight
class did you wrestle?
Speaker 2 (21:53):
I wrestled a 125 weight class.
I wrestled a 155.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
So as we look at going forward, right, we look at
how to move forward inwrestling.
What are your goals for nextseason and where do you see
yourself in the sport a fewyears from now?
Speaker 2 (22:20):
A few years from now.
I see myself as an inspiringrole model for the Richmond High
School and I feel like in a fewyears I'm going to be excellent
at wrestling.
I'm going crazy.
Wait, I'm sorry.
What was the question?
Speaker 1 (22:39):
What are your goals for the rest of the season and
where do you see yourself in thesport in a few years from now?
Speaker 2 (22:44):
My goals for next season is probably most
definitely making it to state ohyeah, true, yeah.
And for the future, yeah, justbeing an aspiring role model to
all of the young girls that wantto do wrestling.
Yeah, yeah, they just look upto me.
I want to be like oh there goes, keisha Golden.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Yeah, she used to be my neighbor People.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Just knowing my name, I met her in the Dollar General
one time.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
I made her Starbucks drink.
What has?
Speaker 2 (23:21):
wrestling taught you that you did not think wrestling
would teach you.
It has taught me to have areally good mindset and to just
always stick through with thingsand not to give up.
Yeah, I think that's it.
I think it has taught me thatit's really about like, it's
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really about what's going on inyour head If you think you're
going to lose, you're going tolose.
If you think you're going towin, there's a 50-50, but it's
more 75 than 50.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
So wrestling is something that you guys enjoy
doing.
Where do you see yourself inthe offseason?
I know you guys aretransitioning into other sports.
Are you planning to continue to, or are you wanting to continue
to still wrestle, compete,practice?
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Yeah, I was planning on doing a lot of offseason
practices, maybe some offseasonwrestling.
I just really want to stayinvolved and in shape for next
season.
Like there's softball, becauseI'm splitting the days up with
softball and wrestling for likeoff-season, and then in the
summer I'm going to join Ben'swrestling club and me and
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Marley's going to wrestle ourbutts off all summer.
Yep, I don't know how to read.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Tell me a little bit about what are some other things
you're interested in.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Maybe traveling the world to wrestle?
That would be fun.
Yeah, that would be fun.
I don't know if that's reallywhat you meant.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
I want to go D1 and travel.
I want to wrestle in, likeItaly.
I don't know, I just reallywant to wrestle in Italy.
Yeah, italian bread, italianbread.
Yeah, like after my meal, I'mgoing to eat some Italian bread,
italian bread.
Yeah, like after my meal, I'mgoing to eat some Italian bread.
That just sounds good.
It's only funny because nevermind, never mind.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Now, one of the things that you know I've had a
lot of kids up here before andone of the things we talk about
is and we've talked about is howdo you deal with the stresses
of school and social media asyou play, as you try to become
an elite athlete, right?
So sometimes the you know thepressures of outside will tell
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you that you should not, you befocusing on a sport like
wrestling.
How do you guys deal with that?
Speaker 2 (26:05):
I love this topic.
So basically, when I went tojoin wrestling, the significant
person was telling me not to doit, not to do it, not to do it,
not to do it.
But then I was just like whoare you to tell me what to do?
Because you're not my mom,you're not my dad.
So I just did it because theytold me not to.
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I think that's just Kiki foryou.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
So what about you?
Speaker 2 (26:41):
I kind of forget the question.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Marlene, I'm sorry I'm so bad at this.
Help her with the question,Kiki.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Yeah help me with the question, please.
Like when someone was tellingyou not to do wrestling, or to
stop it or to quit, how did youfeel?
I just ignored it and justcontinued to do what I wanted to
do.
I really like wrestling, so Idon't think anyone can stop me
from doing it or anything.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Now one of the things that may be a little difficult
sometimes for young ladies andthis is a conversation that I've
had.
I had a group of about fiveyoung ladies up here over time
and we talked a little bit aboutfriendships, right?
How do you manage friendshipsand continue to keep having
healthy friendships when you'redoing something positive and
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your friends may not be doingthings positive?
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Well, a really good thing about this is, I think all
of my friends do wrestling.
I have no friends really, I'mkind of lonely, but all of my
friends I do have are on thewrestling team, so I don't have
to worry about that.
All of my friends, I have gotthem to be involved with
wrestling or like doingwrestling yeah, like jasmine?
(27:56):
Yeah, I love jasmine, she'sjuicy.
J shout out, sorry.
Shout out to the manager shoutout to the manager.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Shout out to Juicy.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
J, yeah, and Emmy two times.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Emmy two times and Juicy J ma.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
The two managers.
We love them, we love them.
They're very fun, and you knowwhat I mean.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
How did you deal with ?
So?
How did you deal with?
So let's talk a little bitabout self-doubt.
You know, I heard both of youguys talk about self-doubt, uh,
in wrestling, like, how did youdeal with the self-doubt?
Speaker 2 (28:25):
um, I don't really know, like, like that, at the
tournament and it was thetournament we had the boys were
right across from us.
I don't know lafayette yeah,that tournament.
When, when you lifted up myshoulder after that meet and
like oh my God, it was so sore,and then I had a meet like 20 or
(28:47):
10 minutes later, I was justlike I can't like let this
affect me from winning, like Ihave to at least like place
because I was sick again.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
third place I was very angry that day.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Yeah, I'd probably just say giving it my all, yeah.
Yeah, I was very angry that day.
I'd probably just say giving itmy all.
Yeah, no matter what theinconvenience is.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
How do you approach?
You know, you guys have saidNow, and one of the things
you've done is you've Built thepeople that have been around you
.
You've now gotten them involvedIn wrestling right.
And so I'm sure you guys havesome other friends lingering
around that you used to hangwith, and I don't want to get
into names or anything and Idon't want you to talk about
(29:30):
specific situations thatsomebody may be watching.
This will see.
But how do you— no shade, noshade.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
No shade, no T, no shade, no T, no shade.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Yeah, All T no shade.
No T, no shade.
All T no shade.
How do you approach buildingstrong, Healthy friendships?
Right, how do you deal withthat as a young lady who now is
a young lady wrestler?
How do you approach buildingStrong, healthy friendships?
Trust yeah, a lot of trust.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
It's like just you gotta trust each other and like
if you got to trust each otherand like if you have like a
negative friend always gettingyou in the mix and drama, just
cut them off.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Or at least try to help them to change, try to
revolve the issue.
And if, like, it just keepsgetting worse and worse and
you're like not messing with it,just leave them alone.
Because they're not worth theirtime.
Yeah, no tea, no shake.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
No tea, no shake.
What do you value most infriendships, Like what do you
guys value in friendships?
Speaker 2 (30:34):
A trust.
I think trust is like beingable to tell each other whatever
it is and just having eachother's backs and always being
there for each other.
Don't backdoor each other.
Yeah, don't backdoor.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
So you talk about trust.
So what's a quality in someone?
Speaker 2 (30:50):
that instantly.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Close that backdoor door.
What'd you say?
You're singing a song.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Close that backdoor door.
Don't get snaked out by yourhomie.
What she?
Speaker 1 (30:58):
said close that backdoor, don't get.
Is that a song?
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Oh, don't close that back door.
It's a song.
It's a song, okay, sorry.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Who was that song by Lil.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Durk who Lil Durk Lil .
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Durk, lil Durk, close that back door.
All right.
What's a quality in someonethat instantly makes you trust
them?
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Jasmine.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
No, I don't want name , I want, I want, I want, I want
a characteristic because,remember, ladies, well, you are,
you, may you, they may beyounger ladies seeing this.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
So I want you, I want them to be able to like, learn
from your examples I feel likewhen you see like someone like
you just get that feeling aboutthem, like their energy and like
once you like are around themenough, you get to trust them.
You can tell if it's off or ifit's good energy, if they're
bringing good spirits around youand stuff or bad energy.
(31:50):
Yeah, I think I'd have to agreewith Kiki.
Okay, bruzo All right.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
How do you stay confident on days when you just
feel down and you're just tired?
How do you guys stay asconfident as you sound right now
?
Speaker 2 (32:08):
I just do it.
Just do it, get it over with,get it off the schedule, just
yeah, lock in.
I think I just try to buildmyself up.
I don't know I don't reallyhave any moments where I'm like
(32:29):
non-confident, I don't think,but I do have my moments.
But I think I just get over itand just build myself up and
yeah, like sometimes I just feellike I got to do better next
time.
And then I do better next timebecause I don't want to feel
that same feeling again.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
And what I noticed with you guys as long as you got
the edges right, you got thenecklaces on the rings.
You're good, is that true?
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Yeah, yeah, looking good, feeling good.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Looking good.
Like you know there's a famousfootball player he's a coach now
Deion Sanders, and he wouldalways Deion used to say in
order to look good, you lookgood, you play good.
You guys ever heard that?
Speaker 2 (33:10):
No.
No that sounds like something aboy would say, though it sounds
like something Kevin would sayoh, that does sound like
something, kevin.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Junior.
I'll let him know that.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Oh, he's going to clock our tea.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
No, we talked a little bit about media.
Right, you were talking aboutLil Durk, who's a rapper out of
Chicago.
So we're going to transition alittle bit and talk about some
of your interests, right?
So talk to us a little bitabout a TV show that you guys
have been watching lately.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
It's called Pretty Little Liars Summer Camp and
it's like the best show ever.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
What's it on?
Speaker 2 (33:50):
It's on HBO Max.
Any good books that you've read.
It's called Girl Interrupted,girl Interrupted Sorry guys.
I love that book and I love themovie.
They got a movie too.
One of my favorite books, orOne of Us, is Lying.
It's a good book.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
What about artists?
I know you guys love music.
Who's in your?
I would say, back in the daythey used to say who's in your
back in the day they used to saywho's in your tape deck or
who's on your record player, butwho's in your phone?
Who's in your Apple music?
There's a few.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
We got starting off top ten, right You're going to
do ten.
I don't want ten.
No, top five, top five, top two, no, five, top five.
Okay, votto Lil Baby.
Frank Ocean, party Next Door,bryson Tiller.
Okay, that's four.
Since she did her, that wasfive.
Since she did her top five,I'll do my top five Drake Drizzy
(34:48):
, drizzy, drizzy, oh, drizzy.
Okay, drake Lil Baby, maybe,maybe, frank Ocean.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Red.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Bell.
This is hard y'all.
That's it, guys.
Red Bell.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
What about Tupac?
Any of y'all like Tupac?
Speaker 2 (35:04):
He's out of range.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Tupac's the greatest rapper of all time.
No disrespect.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
I like Chyna Scambino .
Chyna Scambino, I don't knowwho else.
I don't know who else.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
All right, so I'm going to transition just a
little bit.
Okay, okay, okay, what is a?
Speaker 2 (35:26):
failure.
That you've learned from thatmade you stronger.
When I lost at regionals, I wasvery mad because my shoulder
was not on the map.
No disrespect to the ref, yeahno shade.
No shade, no T, but my shoulderwas not on the map.
I checked video.
My shoulder was not on the map.
I checked video.
It's not on the map.
But I'm glad the girl won.
She's very good and I didn'trealize she tried to help me up.
Sorry, I didn't let you help meup.
I was just very angry that Igot cheated and I think she
(35:50):
ended up winning the state shedid she's very sweet she is, and
she's very good.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
I good, wasn't the girl that was beating on her?
No, no, it wasn't her.
I don't know who that was.
I think she's a four-time statechampion.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Oh, that's Ella Harlow, Harlow or something.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Her hero.
No shade, no tea.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
It wasn't shade.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Yeah, it wasn't shade .
She's good, all right, whatabout you?
Speaker 2 (36:19):
What's what's a failure?
You've learned from that madeyou stronger.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Whenever like, does it have to?
Speaker 2 (36:24):
be in wrestling?
No in life, okay, whatever.
Like a couple, three years agoI think, my mom got me a little
duck for my birthday and my momwas stop looking at me, and one
day it was walking around thehouse and I didn't see it behind
(36:44):
me and I accidentally steppedon it.
So it made me realize to watchmy surroundings and don't step
on nothing.
It was sad, though I think itwas one of my biggest failures,
your failures.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
What does success mean to you?
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Success.
Success means great times,living life to the fullest.
It means happiness.
I love success.
I think it means a lot becausethen it means there will be more
people proud of me, and justproud of my accomplishments.
So I love success.
It feels like you've completeda chapter out of your book.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Yeah, what's one skill that you've loved to
master?
I mean any skill.
What is one skill you wouldlove to master?
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Word love Time managing.
What skill did you love tomaster?
I mean any skill.
What is one skill you would?
Speaker 1 (37:41):
love to master.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Would love Time managing.
I think a skill I would love tomaster is a single leg, because
I suck at them and I need toget better at them.
Taking shots I don't take shots, I just start slamming, and I
also dislike doing drills atpractice and running for 30
minutes yeah, all shade.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
All shade, I'm with you All shade, all shade.
How do you set goals and whatkeeps you motivated?
Speaker 2 (38:16):
I just really have goals towards sectionals and
regionals and state.
I didn't really have goals atthe beginning Because I was just
not getting into it, but I wasjust like I gotta complete this
task.
It was really like side questsyeah, side quests, love a good
side quest.
How do I manage goals?
Was that the question?
(38:36):
How do you set goals?
Was that the question?
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Yeah, how do you set goals?
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
And what keeps you motivated?
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Oh, I don't know.
I just like tell myself I needto do this and I need to get
better at this, and then I justwork towards it and I think what
motivates me the most is justlike thinking about how it can
make my family proud and how itcan mean something.
Yeah, yeah, I hear that too allright.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
If you had any superpower, what would it be?
Speaker 2 (39:10):
invisibility.
Why?
And why why how is that missing?
Because, like, like, if it'sinvisibility, you can get things
like done, that you want to bedone, like you can.
You can spy on people you can.
That's messy, see.
That's what I said, that'smessy.
No, no, you can, you can get toskipping in lines and stuff you
(39:32):
could skip traffic.
I feel like that's.
How is that messy skipping inline and no like spying on
people, no, no, like, say, youwere like like you can't be five
minutes late, and then you'refour minutes late and then
there's a line you can skip infront of someone and do what you
got to do, like clocking in thework or something, and then
boom, um, mine would be teleport, teleport, be teleportation,
(39:57):
teleportation, yeah, when yousay teleportation.
Yeah, so I can just be whereverI want to be.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
You can go back in time.
Is that what that means,teleport?
Speaker 2 (40:07):
That would seem fun.
I mean, that is kind ofteleporting, but I just mean
like say, I want to go somewhereand I could just be there.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Hey, I want to go to Las Vegas.
Boop, boop, I'm in, gosomewhere, I could just be there
.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Hey, I want to go to Las Vegas.
Boop, boop, I'm in Las Vegas.
What if I had like aliententacles.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
All right, ladies, If you could leave anything.
This is your time to tell thepeople in the audience about the
beauty of wrestling, oranything you want to share,
please share it now.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Wrestling is great and you meet a lot of great
people and it's just a reallyfun thing to do if you have
nothing to do and you want toget into a new sport, because I
think it's really easy to learn,because it looks really hard,
but I've learned a lot in oneseason so yeah, and like you
don't.
You don't just have to beaggressive to be good at
(40:58):
wrestling, because a lot of ourgirls before I meet like they'll
say like they're scared or howthey're not aggressive but like
if you just do, like what you'resupposed to do and get it done,
I think you could win.
And then like, if you're going,if you're doing what you're
supposed to do, in practiceyou'll learn and improve a lot
(41:20):
alright.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
Well, ladies, if you're doing what you're
supposed to do in practice,you'll learn and improve a lot.
All right, well, ladies, Iappreciate you guys spending
this time with me on Out of theMouth of Babes.
Keep up the good work.
(41:43):
You guys back on here again totalk about what it's like to be
a teenager in 2025, what is itlike to be a young lady in 2025,
or any other topic you guyswant to discuss.
So if you got some ideas ofthings you want to discuss, you
let me know.
We can have you back up here.
Do you guys have any questionsfor me?
I think I don't have anyquestions for me?
Speaker 2 (41:55):
I think I don't have any questions, but I think you
should start the Rez podcast.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
The Rez podcast.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Yes, we would love it .
We could talk about anything onthere.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
Alright, let's do this, Kevin, out of the mouth of
Bay.
It's a podcast for your youth.
Welcome to Out of the Mouth of Babes, a podcast for
our future leaders.
Today I have two exceptionalyoung women, but first I'm going
to start off by letting themintroduce themselves.
They're going to tell you whothey are, where they're from,
what school they attend and someof the things that they're
involved in.
Starting off to my right, whome?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello, I am Marlee Wampler.
I go to Richmond High Schooland I'm a part of girls
wrestling.
I do student council too.
I'm Keisha Golden and I attendRichmond High School and I'm
from Richmond, indiana, and Iplay volleyball and I play
softball and I do girlswrestling.
I play volleyball and I playsoftball and I do girls
(00:43):
wrestling.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
All right, now I'm just going to set some ground
rules here first, before we getstarted.
I've got a lot of questions foryou, young ladies, and I know
this may be your first time inthe studio, so it is very
important to get close to themicrophone when you're speaking.
So you guys both have somethingin common, right?
You guys both are members ofthe girls wrestling team.
(01:05):
How did you first get intowrestling and what motivated you
to join the sport?
Now, the way this will work isthat I'll ask a question and
both of you all will have achance to start, so I'm going to
point out first to Marley first, and then Kiesha will answer
the second one first.
So the question is how did youget into wrestling and what
motivated you to join the sport?
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I got into wrestling mostly from my brother's friends
, because they all do wrestlingand we would just wrestle
sometimes.
And then me and my best friend,layla, decided that we wanted
to try wrestling because we justnever tried anything like it
before and we ended up reallyliking it.
Yeah, tried anything like itbefore and we ended up really
(01:50):
liking it.
so, yeah, um, I got intowrestling because, like when I
was little, I would like wrestleon my cousins and stuff with my
family and then, like um, oneday, like after volleyball
season, marley was like youshould join girls wrestling and
I was like I don't know, I'llthink about it.
And then, like a month later, Istarted doing it and I liked it
and I was good well, both ofyou young ladies had some
success as freshmen.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Both of you guys went to regionals, which is one step
away from the state tournament.
Now, the most important partabout wrestling right now in
Indiana is that it is now asanctioned sport IHSA sanctioned
sport.
So what does it mean to you alland this is starting off with
(02:32):
Kiki for you to be part of theinaugural girls' season in
Richmond High School?
Because, as you know, when youlook at the record books and you
go down the line, 100 yearsfrom now, there's going to be a
picture and that picture isgoing to show you all on that
picture.
So how does that make you feelto be part of that history?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
It feels good.
I don't know, I'm just readyfor the future.
Yeah, that's it.
I feel really good to be a partof it.
It means a lot to be the firstgirls wrestling team at our high
school and I'm just glad thatI'm able to be a part of it and
(03:15):
just make history at our schoolnow, as you know, wrestling is
difficult, um and um.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
There are some times that it's tiresome.
What were some of thechallenges you faced during your
first year of wrestling?
Because it's different thansoftball and it's different than
volleyball.
So what are some of thechallenges that you faced going
off with Marley?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I think a challenge I faced was probably just being
scared of my opponent and justthinking, because she's been
wrestling for a lot longer timethan me, that she's just going
to be way better than me.
So that was probably one of mybiggest problems I faced this
season.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
I feel like I was doing great all season and then
I got hurt with my shoulder andthen I feel like we've done a
lot of wonderful things.
Can you share with me one ofyour memorable moments,
something that you're the mostproud of, that you dealt with
this year?
Speaker 2 (04:36):
At sectionals.
I was going for the first placespot and then we wrestled.
I lost, but I was still proudof myself because I got second
place and I beat the other girlsin my weight class what about
you?
um, I think I'd say the same forKiki.
Probably just like almostwinning first place, that meant
(05:00):
a lot, and it was a veryhumbling experience when I
didn't, because I realized thatI just need to, like, try harder
and just do my best, and eventhough I didn't get first place,
I was still proud of myself, soyeah now.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
We were fortunate this year with girls wrestling
that we had about in access,about 15 young ladies.
How was your support from yourteammates?
Speaker 2 (05:28):
um, the support from my teammates were great.
I love my teammates.
Um, we all have a really closebond and that's probably my
favorite thing about this wholeseason is just meeting such
amazing people.
Just yeah, I love my teammates.
I'm very grateful for myteammates.
They're all so sweet and kindand I just love how like
welcoming they were and I feellike I have a special bond with
(05:51):
each one of them, like, andthey're all different because I
just we all just are so close.
We're like sisters kind of.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yeah, now, I mentioned to you all that there
was some wrestling happeningthis morning with young ladies.
I mentioned to you all thatthere was some wrestling
happening this morning withyoung ladies.
How important is it for younggirls to see you all wrestling
and competing, and what do youwant to do to help young ladies
out in the community and tobecome wrestlers?
Speaker 2 (06:16):
I love watching little kids wrestle, Like it's
so funny and I just likesometimes I just want to help
them because, like they'restruggling sometimes, but like
if I would have started at theirage.
I feel like I just want to helpthem Because, like they're
struggling sometimes, but likeif I would have started at their
age, I feel like I would be theexact same.
So I just want to help them,but it makes me happy seeing how
little they are wrestling.
I love seeing the younger girlswrestle Because I know there's
(06:45):
a future for our wrestling teamat the high school and just in
general.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
I love to see little girls trying out for wrestling.
Now, wrestling is a sport thatit's sequential and you have to
learn the fundamentals.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
How has your wrestling technique and mental
approach evolved over the season?
At the beginning of the seasonI was just being aggressive and
throwing girls around and stuffand just whipping out a quick
little headlock and slammingthem.
I didn't really know what to dofor real.
And then one day in a match Iforgot how to do a crossface and
I was just like Hanley, Iforgot and you were like what it
(07:24):
did.
I just remembered one day atpractice?
Speaker 1 (07:30):
yeah, what was the question?
The question is how is yourtechnique developed over time?
Speaker 2 (07:35):
okay.
So the beginning of the seasonI feel like I wasn't like really
focusing on what I was doing.
I was just doing it, so itwasn't really working out for me
and the girls they knew how todefend whatever I was doing.
I was just doing it, so itwasn't really working out for me
and the girls they knew how todefend whatever I was doing.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
So, yeah, by the end of the season I think I got way
better at controlling what I'mdoing now, if there was
something that you would saythat is the most significant
improvement, the thing that youlearned the most, it could be a
move or technique, or justconversation.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
What would you say that was?
Speaker 1 (08:18):
That's a good question, so something that you
developed the most it could be.
I love a good cross face A goodcross face.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I love.
A good cross face, tell I lovea good, a good cross face I love
.
A good cross face tell me whyyou like a good cross face
because, like, like, it's likehitting them in their face but
you're not because your handslike how it's like like that,
like so, like I feel like I'mlike punching them in their face
but then, like, I like likeseeing their jaw like go to the
shoulder, like I know thatsounds crazy.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
But like that sounds crazy, I know that sounds crazy,
but like it does sound crazy.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
I know that sounds crazy, but like, I just like,
like I don't know, I just like,like seeing them crawl up into
like a little circle and thenthey turn on their back and I
pin them.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
I love that feeling how do you see wrestling
evolving in the years inrichmond and in the state?
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I can see wrestling evolving a lot because it's
already becoming a really bigsport.
Especially where we are at,there's a lot of little kids
that like to wrestle, so I feellike it's going to be a really
big thing in Richmond.
I feel like it's going to getbig because girls wrestling in
(09:23):
general they just made it d1.
I guess I think that's what Isaw.
Yeah, they like made it d1because at first it was just
stuck at d3 for so long and nowit's d1 and I feel like it's
gonna like involve a lot withover time so what when?
Speaker 1 (09:42):
um kiesha akaiki.
So I'll interchange that.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yeah, I was saying Kiki.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
So with Key Asia Kiki is saying that it just came out
on Friday, I believe that theNCAA has sanctioned girls
wrestling as its 91st sport.
So that means there now will beopportunities for young ladies
to go to Division I schools andget scholarships and wrestle,
(10:11):
and next year in March or Aprilwill be the first girls NCAA
championship.
So that is really exciting.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
That is really exciting, yeah, so that is
really exciting, that is reallyexciting.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah, yeah.
So tell me something that youwant to leave for young ladies
in Richmond High School whenyou're done with wrestling.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
What kind of program do you want to leave for them?
I don't know, but I do think inrichmond we need like way more
girl programs for us girls.
So I don't know, probably somesummer programs.
I feel like.
I feel like, like the girls inrichmond, I feel like there
should be more opportunities andstuff handed to them.
There's not a lot.
I was telling my mom today howyou've given me a lot of
(11:14):
opportunities for new things andstuff.
Girls wrestling has brought alot to me.
I feel like the little kidsaround.
They would look up to the girlswrestling team if there was
more things out there.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
So walking down the hall at school you got people
know you're wrestlers.
How has the attitude changedaround school knowing that you
guys are wrestlers?
Speaker 2 (11:39):
It really hasn't changed, like I don't know.
Maybe people are always askinghow it's going and stuff and
like how our tournaments went,but I don't think people are
scared of nobody's scared.
Nobody's scared, they're justlike that's a good.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
She wrestles yeah, you feel like people are
supportive though, right?
Yeah, yeah a lot she had to getin her um their lingo, so I
hope that it's appropriate.
But I just want to make sure.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
It's appropriate, it's all good.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
It's all good, and so one of the things you guys need
to understand about a podcast,although I'm asking you guys a
lot of questions, it's more of aconversation, right?
So it's not like I know we'vekind of started it off robotic,
like me.
Hey, so tell me this and youtell me that and you tell me
this, but it's more about justhaving a conversation, so so, so
(12:40):
let's yeah, so that's just aconversation and podcast.
People have random conversations, right, so let's.
And you're sitting by thewindow, so you would be right,
so let's.
So, so, so let's just talk alittle bit about the future of
wrestling.
You know, if you guys right nowcould go to a group of young
ladies and give them advice,what advice would you give them?
Speaker 2 (13:05):
I would say, at least try it before.
Yeah, because a lot of girlsare like no, I'm not going to
wrestle, I'm not doing that,that's for boys or something.
Or I don't want to get hurt orsomething.
I'm like just go one day andtry it and you're going to see
that you like it.
Yeah, I think I hear most isgirls saying that they're scared
to do wrestling, and I don'tthink it's really scary.
(13:26):
I think they should just try itbecause it's actually really
fun.
Now, it's actually really fun.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Now, when you guys came home that day, whatever day
that was, and you said Mom,Granny, Grandpa, Grandpa, Uncle,
I want to wrestle, Tell me thereaction of the folks in your
home.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
I think she didn't think I was going to stick with
it.
She thought it was just goingto be like a go try it and then
just like not like it thing,like she didn't think it was
serious.
But now that she sees that I'mreally serious about wrestling,
she's really proud.
My mom and my dad, they weresupportive.
(14:10):
My mom, as soon as I got home Iwas like oh, I'm going going to
wrestling tomorrow.
I forgot to tell you.
She was like what, when theyhave a girls wrestling team?
And I was like Hanley, he's beenwanting me to do it.
He's been asking me since sixthgrade and I told him I would in
sixth grade and he remembered.
So I pinky promise.
And then she was like okay.
And she was.
I was like and he's gonna letme borrow some shoes real fast
(14:31):
just to see if I like it,because he doesn't want me to
buy or spend money unless I likeit.
And she was like okay.
And then my dad the next day,he was like I think you should
and you should stick with itbecause you're just like very
talented and I think you wouldsucceed in it.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
What was your first practice?
Like the first time you wentinto a wrestling room, were you
nervous, excited or mixedfeelings or both?
Speaker 2 (14:58):
I was really nervous, Like I thought I was about to
get beat up or something.
I was like I don't know what todo.
I wasn't nervous, I didn'tthink I was going to get beat up
or something.
But I was like I don't knowwhat to do what was the most
(15:21):
exciting thing that you learnedwithin the first few weeks of
wrestling?
Um, I don't know.
Probably taking a shot, uh,eating on on um when you have a
thing when you have a meet Eatafter weigh-ins.
That's very important.
That was the most surprisingthing yeah because after that
(15:41):
one day I was scared.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Now, have you guys Always made weight?
Yes, no Tell me about theprocess Of like, because one of
the things, just to be clear,that I said to you all was that
I did not want to force you tobe, let you know, losing weight,
but tell me about somethingthat like.
(16:06):
So tell me what was yourthought process as it relates to
, you know, losing weight, beingin a weight class.
Focusing in on this is where Ineed to be.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
I thought it was going to be really hard to
maintain my weight.
But it's actually not that hard.
If you just I don't know, Idon't know.
I just thought it was going tobe harder to maintain my weight.
It was kind of easy for me.
I don't know, I was just.
I've never been off weight.
I think I've been under Under,yeah, just by a little ounce.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
So, as you know, wrestling physically and
mentally can be challenging,right?
Yeah, I mean it can put you ina position where you are
extremely you leave practice.
You're extremely tired, you'rementally tired.
How did you guys push throughsome of those days when coaches
(17:07):
yelling at you and you don'tunderstand why the coach is
yelling at you?
How do you push through that?
You don't understand why thecoach is yelling at you.
How do you push through that?
What do you do to put yourselfinto a position where you can
overcome some of those things?
Speaker 2 (17:21):
I just give it to God .
Just give it to God.
I just think about how mysenior year I got a Wednesday.
Yeah, also having a goodmindset.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
That's important.
So I like that to have a goodmindset.
And then you also mentioned youknow turning it over to God you
know what I mean and prayingabout it and working through
that.
So those are very key, keycomponents to dealing with
adversity In wrestling.
This year there were someobstacles, and particularly in
(17:59):
competitions.
How did you face thoseobstacles?
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I just tried to do my best and just think of the
positive outlook of everything.
If I do lose, it's okay, aslong as I just gave it my best
and just tried my best Everytournament.
That was a question, right.
It was tournament, Everytournament, I would go in and I
would just be like I got to cook.
(18:28):
I got to cook I got to cook, Igot to get first, and if I don't
get first, it's okay, becauseat least I tried.
But I want first, I need first,I got to have that, I need that
, I want that, I need that.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Is there a wrestler wrestler, male or female and I
know it's hard because you guysmay not have focused a lot about
, you know, on the sport but whoinspired you?
Have you guys had a chance toreally look at and there hadn't
been too many um, you know, um,there hadn't been too many, um,
you know, women wrestlers.
Besides, locally we have somevery talented young lady
wrestlers, but are there any?
Is there any wrestler that thatinspires you?
Like um famous famous or localor people that you've seen
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probably more local.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Like people have wrestled and just like my.
Like people have wrestled in myweight class.
I just like look like, look upto them and like that's going to
be me next year.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
So older wrestlers that?
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Yeah, and just like I don't know A lot of the girls
on the center field team, theywere very inspiring.
They're very sweet and kind.
It's not I don't really havelike famous people, it's like
more local, like Claire.
(19:47):
One day at our tournament wemet this girl named Claire.
Oh, yes, I love Claire and shewent against our Claire and
she's so sweet and she was justlike she was just like she was
just so sweet in like giving ustips on what to do and stuff and
helping us and stuff, and shewasn't rude.
Yeah, she was really.
A lot of girls, a lot of thegirls that you meet during
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wrestling they're not rude, theylook intimidating sometimes,
but they're like so sweet yeahand I believe um claire was from
switzerland county.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Yeah, she made it to state.
Yeah, she made it to stay.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
I seen that and I took a screenshot and sent it to
the gc because I was like, looky'all, there goes.
Claire, yeah, she was very kind, and we like just met her that
day and she was, yeah, and Zuriand Kami, they're sweet too.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Yeah, and one day we're going to have Zuri and
Kami up here as well, so I'vealready talked to them I it.
So that'd be a great time.
Yeah, that would be a good, andmaybe we can get some
intermingle, you know, like withyou guys, with them as well.
What skill have you beenworking on the most since you
(20:53):
started wrestling and what's thefun like what's been the most
fun to improve on?
So what's what skill ortechnique or take down or that
you feel like you worked on themost all season?
Speaker 2 (21:05):
I really like working on my pins because it's always
cool to do like a cool pin.
But I think I what I've looked.
Oh my gosh what I've workedmost on is probably my double
legs, because I love double legs.
Um, I don't really know.
I practice, like I do stuff atpractice, but like when I'm on
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the mat, like I forget about allthat and I just go out there
and wrestle.
And like I just know like, oh,I got to slam her, I got to pin
her, I might hit a quick cradle.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
So now, we didn't talk about this at the beginning
, but tell the folks out therein podcast land, what weight
class did you wrestle?
Speaker 2 (21:53):
I wrestled a 125 weight class.
I wrestled a 155.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
So as we look at going forward, right, we look at
how to move forward inwrestling.
What are your goals for nextseason and where do you see
yourself in the sport a fewyears from now?
Speaker 2 (22:20):
A few years from now.
I see myself as an inspiringrole model for the Richmond High
School and I feel like in a fewyears I'm going to be excellent
at wrestling.
I'm going crazy.
Wait, I'm sorry.
What was the question?
Speaker 1 (22:39):
What are your goals for the rest of the season and
where do you see yourself in thesport in a few years from now?
Speaker 2 (22:44):
My goals for next season is probably most
definitely making it to state ohyeah, true, yeah.
And for the future, yeah, justbeing an aspiring role model to
all of the young girls that wantto do wrestling.
Yeah, yeah, they just look upto me.
I want to be like oh there goes, keisha Golden.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Yeah, she used to be my neighbor People.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Just knowing my name, I met her in the Dollar General
one time.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
I made her Starbucks drink.
What has?
Speaker 2 (23:21):
wrestling taught you that you did not think wrestling
would teach you.
It has taught me to have areally good mindset and to just
always stick through with thingsand not to give up.
Yeah, I think that's it.
I think it has taught me thatit's really about like, it's
(23:41):
really about what's going on inyour head If you think you're
going to lose, you're going tolose.
If you think you're going towin, there's a 50-50, but it's
more 75 than 50.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
So wrestling is something that you guys enjoy
doing.
Where do you see yourself inthe offseason?
I know you guys aretransitioning into other sports.
Are you planning to continue to, or are you wanting to continue
to still wrestle, compete,practice?
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Yeah, I was planning on doing a lot of offseason
practices, maybe some offseasonwrestling.
I just really want to stayinvolved and in shape for next
season.
Like there's softball, becauseI'm splitting the days up with
softball and wrestling for likeoff-season, and then in the
summer I'm going to join Ben'swrestling club and me and
(24:36):
Marley's going to wrestle ourbutts off all summer.
Yep, I don't know how to read.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Tell me a little bit about what are some other things
you're interested in.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Maybe traveling the world to wrestle?
That would be fun.
Yeah, that would be fun.
I don't know if that's reallywhat you meant.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
I want to go D1 and travel.
I want to wrestle in, likeItaly.
I don't know, I just reallywant to wrestle in Italy.
Yeah, italian bread, italianbread.
Yeah, like after my meal, I'mgoing to eat some Italian bread,
italian bread.
Yeah, like after my meal, I'mgoing to eat some Italian bread.
That just sounds good.
It's only funny because nevermind, never mind.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Now, one of the things that you know I've had a
lot of kids up here before andone of the things we talk about
is and we've talked about is howdo you deal with the stresses
of school and social media asyou play, as you try to become
an elite athlete, right?
So sometimes the you know thepressures of outside will tell
(25:57):
you that you should not, you befocusing on a sport like
wrestling.
How do you guys deal with that?
Speaker 2 (26:05):
I love this topic.
So basically, when I went tojoin wrestling, the significant
person was telling me not to doit, not to do it, not to do it,
not to do it.
But then I was just like whoare you to tell me what to do?
Because you're not my mom,you're not my dad.
So I just did it because theytold me not to.
(26:25):
I think that's just Kiki foryou.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
So what about you?
Speaker 2 (26:41):
I kind of forget the question.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Marlene, I'm sorry I'm so bad at this.
Help her with the question,Kiki.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Yeah help me with the question, please.
Like when someone was tellingyou not to do wrestling, or to
stop it or to quit, how did youfeel?
I just ignored it and justcontinued to do what I wanted to
do.
I really like wrestling, so Idon't think anyone can stop me
from doing it or anything.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Now one of the things that may be a little difficult
sometimes for young ladies andthis is a conversation that I've
had.
I had a group of about fiveyoung ladies up here over time
and we talked a little bit aboutfriendships, right?
How do you manage friendshipsand continue to keep having
healthy friendships when you'redoing something positive and
(27:31):
your friends may not be doingthings positive?
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Well, a really good thing about this is, I think all
of my friends do wrestling.
I have no friends really, I'mkind of lonely, but all of my
friends I do have are on thewrestling team, so I don't have
to worry about that.
All of my friends, I have gotthem to be involved with
wrestling or like doingwrestling yeah, like jasmine?
(27:56):
Yeah, I love jasmine, she'sjuicy.
J shout out, sorry.
Shout out to the manager shoutout to the manager.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Shout out to Juicy.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
J, yeah, and Emmy two times.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Emmy two times and Juicy J ma.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
The two managers.
We love them, we love them.
They're very fun, and you knowwhat I mean.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
How did you deal with ?
So?
How did you deal with?
So let's talk a little bitabout self-doubt.
You know, I heard both of youguys talk about self-doubt, uh,
in wrestling, like, how did youdeal with the self-doubt?
Speaker 2 (28:25):
um, I don't really know, like, like that, at the
tournament and it was thetournament we had the boys were
right across from us.
I don't know lafayette yeah,that tournament.
When, when you lifted up myshoulder after that meet and
like oh my God, it was so sore,and then I had a meet like 20 or
(28:47):
10 minutes later, I was justlike I can't like let this
affect me from winning, like Ihave to at least like place
because I was sick again.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
third place I was very angry that day.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Yeah, I'd probably just say giving it my all, yeah.
Yeah, I was very angry that day.
I'd probably just say giving itmy all.
Yeah, no matter what theinconvenience is.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
How do you approach?
You know, you guys have saidNow, and one of the things
you've done is you've Built thepeople that have been around you
.
You've now gotten them involvedIn wrestling right.
And so I'm sure you guys havesome other friends lingering
around that you used to hangwith, and I don't want to get
into names or anything and Idon't want you to talk about
(29:30):
specific situations thatsomebody may be watching.
This will see.
But how do you— no shade, noshade.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
No shade, no T, no shade, no T, no shade.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Yeah, All T no shade.
No T, no shade.
All T no shade.
How do you approach buildingstrong, Healthy friendships?
Right, how do you deal withthat as a young lady who now is
a young lady wrestler?
How do you approach buildingStrong, healthy friendships?
Trust yeah, a lot of trust.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
It's like just you gotta trust each other and like
if you got to trust each otherand like if you have like a
negative friend always gettingyou in the mix and drama, just
cut them off.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Or at least try to help them to change, try to
revolve the issue.
And if, like, it just keepsgetting worse and worse and
you're like not messing with it,just leave them alone.
Because they're not worth theirtime.
Yeah, no tea, no shake.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
No tea, no shake.
What do you value most infriendships, Like what do you
guys value in friendships?
Speaker 2 (30:34):
A trust.
I think trust is like beingable to tell each other whatever
it is and just having eachother's backs and always being
there for each other.
Don't backdoor each other.
Yeah, don't backdoor.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
So you talk about trust.
So what's a quality in someone?
Speaker 2 (30:50):
that instantly.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Close that backdoor door.
What'd you say?
You're singing a song.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Close that backdoor door.
Don't get snaked out by yourhomie.
What she?
Speaker 1 (30:58):
said close that backdoor, don't get.
Is that a song?
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Oh, don't close that back door.
It's a song.
It's a song, okay, sorry.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Who was that song by Lil.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Durk who Lil Durk Lil .
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Durk, lil Durk, close that back door.
All right.
What's a quality in someonethat instantly makes you trust
them?
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Jasmine.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
No, I don't want name , I want, I want, I want, I want
a characteristic because,remember, ladies, well, you are,
you, may you, they may beyounger ladies seeing this.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
So I want you, I want them to be able to like, learn
from your examples I feel likewhen you see like someone like
you just get that feeling aboutthem, like their energy and like
once you like are around themenough, you get to trust them.
You can tell if it's off or ifit's good energy, if they're
bringing good spirits around youand stuff or bad energy.
(31:50):
Yeah, I think I'd have to agreewith Kiki.
Okay, bruzo All right.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
How do you stay confident on days when you just
feel down and you're just tired?
How do you guys stay asconfident as you sound right now
?
Speaker 2 (32:08):
I just do it.
Just do it, get it over with,get it off the schedule, just
yeah, lock in.
I think I just try to buildmyself up.
I don't know I don't reallyhave any moments where I'm like
(32:29):
non-confident, I don't think,but I do have my moments.
But I think I just get over itand just build myself up and
yeah, like sometimes I just feellike I got to do better next
time.
And then I do better next timebecause I don't want to feel
that same feeling again.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
And what I noticed with you guys as long as you got
the edges right, you got thenecklaces on the rings.
You're good, is that true?
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Yeah, yeah, looking good, feeling good.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Looking good.
Like you know there's a famousfootball player he's a coach now
Deion Sanders, and he wouldalways Deion used to say in
order to look good, you lookgood, you play good.
You guys ever heard that?
Speaker 2 (33:10):
No.
No that sounds like something aboy would say, though it sounds
like something Kevin would sayoh, that does sound like
something, kevin.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Junior.
I'll let him know that.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Oh, he's going to clock our tea.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
No, we talked a little bit about media.
Right, you were talking aboutLil Durk, who's a rapper out of
Chicago.
So we're going to transition alittle bit and talk about some
of your interests, right?
So talk to us a little bitabout a TV show that you guys
have been watching lately.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
It's called Pretty Little Liars Summer Camp and
it's like the best show ever.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
What's it on?
Speaker 2 (33:50):
It's on HBO Max.
Any good books that you've read.
It's called Girl Interrupted,girl Interrupted Sorry guys.
I love that book and I love themovie.
They got a movie too.
One of my favorite books, orOne of Us, is Lying.
It's a good book.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
What about artists?
I know you guys love music.
Who's in your?
I would say, back in the daythey used to say who's in your
back in the day they used to saywho's in your tape deck or
who's on your record player, butwho's in your phone?
Who's in your Apple music?
There's a few.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
We got starting off top ten, right You're going to
do ten.
I don't want ten.
No, top five, top five, top two, no, five, top five.
Okay, votto Lil Baby.
Frank Ocean, party Next Door,bryson Tiller.
Okay, that's four.
Since she did her, that wasfive.
Since she did her top five,I'll do my top five Drake Drizzy
(34:48):
, drizzy, drizzy, oh, drizzy.
Okay, drake Lil Baby, maybe,maybe, frank Ocean.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Red.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Bell.
This is hard y'all.
That's it, guys.
Red Bell.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
What about Tupac?
Any of y'all like Tupac?
Speaker 2 (35:04):
He's out of range.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Tupac's the greatest rapper of all time.
No disrespect.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
I like Chyna Scambino .
Chyna Scambino, I don't knowwho else.
I don't know who else.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
All right, so I'm going to transition just a
little bit.
Okay, okay, okay, what is a?
Speaker 2 (35:26):
failure.
That you've learned from thatmade you stronger.
When I lost at regionals, I wasvery mad because my shoulder
was not on the map.
No disrespect to the ref, yeahno shade.
No shade, no T, but my shoulderwas not on the map.
I checked video.
My shoulder was not on the map.
I checked video.
It's not on the map.
But I'm glad the girl won.
She's very good and I didn'trealize she tried to help me up.
Sorry, I didn't let you help meup.
I was just very angry that Igot cheated and I think she
(35:50):
ended up winning the state shedid she's very sweet she is, and
she's very good.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
I good, wasn't the girl that was beating on her?
No, no, it wasn't her.
I don't know who that was.
I think she's a four-time statechampion.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Oh, that's Ella Harlow, Harlow or something.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Her hero.
No shade, no tea.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
It wasn't shade.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Yeah, it wasn't shade .
She's good, all right, whatabout you?
Speaker 2 (36:19):
What's what's a failure?
You've learned from that madeyou stronger.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Whenever like, does it have to?
Speaker 2 (36:24):
be in wrestling?
No in life, okay, whatever.
Like a couple, three years agoI think, my mom got me a little
duck for my birthday and my momwas stop looking at me, and one
day it was walking around thehouse and I didn't see it behind
(36:44):
me and I accidentally steppedon it.
So it made me realize to watchmy surroundings and don't step
on nothing.
It was sad, though I think itwas one of my biggest failures,
your failures.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
What does success mean to you?
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Success.
Success means great times,living life to the fullest.
It means happiness.
I love success.
I think it means a lot becausethen it means there will be more
people proud of me, and justproud of my accomplishments.
So I love success.
It feels like you've completeda chapter out of your book.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Yeah, what's one skill that you've loved to
master?
I mean any skill.
What is one skill you wouldlove to master?
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Word love Time managing.
What skill did you love tomaster?
I mean any skill.
What is one skill you would?
Speaker 1 (37:41):
love to master.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Would love Time managing.
I think a skill I would love tomaster is a single leg, because
I suck at them and I need toget better at them.
Taking shots I don't take shots, I just start slamming, and I
also dislike doing drills atpractice and running for 30
minutes yeah, all shade.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
All shade, I'm with you All shade, all shade.
How do you set goals and whatkeeps you motivated?
Speaker 2 (38:16):
I just really have goals towards sectionals and
regionals and state.
I didn't really have goals atthe beginning Because I was just
not getting into it, but I wasjust like I gotta complete this
task.
It was really like side questsyeah, side quests, love a good
side quest.
How do I manage goals?
Was that the question?
(38:36):
How do you set goals?
Was that the question?
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Yeah, how do you set goals?
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
And what keeps you motivated?
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Oh, I don't know.
I just like tell myself I needto do this and I need to get
better at this, and then I justwork towards it and I think what
motivates me the most is justlike thinking about how it can
make my family proud and how itcan mean something.
Yeah, yeah, I hear that too allright.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
If you had any superpower, what would it be?
Speaker 2 (39:10):
invisibility.
Why?
And why why how is that missing?
Because, like, like, if it'sinvisibility, you can get things
like done, that you want to bedone, like you can.
You can spy on people you can.
That's messy, see.
That's what I said, that'smessy.
No, no, you can, you can get toskipping in lines and stuff you
(39:32):
could skip traffic.
I feel like that's.
How is that messy skipping inline and no like spying on
people, no, no, like, say, youwere like like you can't be five
minutes late, and then you'refour minutes late and then
there's a line you can skip infront of someone and do what you
got to do, like clocking in thework or something, and then
boom, um, mine would be teleport, teleport, be teleportation,
(39:57):
teleportation, yeah, when yousay teleportation.
Yeah, so I can just be whereverI want to be.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
You can go back in time.
Is that what that means,teleport?
Speaker 2 (40:07):
That would seem fun.
I mean, that is kind ofteleporting, but I just mean
like say, I want to go somewhereand I could just be there.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Hey, I want to go to Las Vegas.
Boop, boop, I'm in, gosomewhere, I could just be there
.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Hey, I want to go to Las Vegas.
Boop, boop, I'm in Las Vegas.
What if I had like aliententacles.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
All right, ladies, If you could leave anything.
This is your time to tell thepeople in the audience about the
beauty of wrestling, oranything you want to share,
please share it now.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Wrestling is great and you meet a lot of great
people and it's just a reallyfun thing to do if you have
nothing to do and you want toget into a new sport, because I
think it's really easy to learn,because it looks really hard,
but I've learned a lot in oneseason so yeah, and like you
don't.
You don't just have to beaggressive to be good at
(40:58):
wrestling, because a lot of ourgirls before I meet like they'll
say like they're scared or howthey're not aggressive but like
if you just do, like what you'resupposed to do and get it done,
I think you could win.
And then like, if you're going,if you're doing what you're
supposed to do, in practiceyou'll learn and improve a lot
(41:20):
alright.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
Well, ladies, if you're doing what you're
supposed to do in practice,you'll learn and improve a lot.
All right, well, ladies, Iappreciate you guys spending
this time with me on Out of theMouth of Babes.
Keep up the good work.
(41:43):
You guys back on here again totalk about what it's like to be
a teenager in 2025, what is itlike to be a young lady in 2025,
or any other topic you guyswant to discuss.
So if you got some ideas ofthings you want to discuss, you
let me know.
We can have you back up here.
Do you guys have any questionsfor me?
I think I don't have anyquestions for me?
Speaker 2 (41:55):
I think I don't have any questions, but I think you
should start the Rez podcast.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
The Rez podcast.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Yes, we would love it .
We could talk about anything onthere.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
Alright, let's do this, Kevin, out of the mouth of
Bay.
It's a podcast for your youth.
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