March 3, 2025 • 31 mins
OG influencer, Gretty Rose, has thrown serious shade at her former bestie Ashy Bines and reignited interest in their historic friendship breakdown.
After months of speculation, Bachelor golden couple Georgia Love and Lee Elliot have confirmed their marriage is over.
Molly Mae’s ex-fiancé Tommy Fury has revealed he’s getting a documentary of his own, which promises to give an insight into his life inside and outside the ring.
Kourtney Kardashian has shut down claims her 15-year-old son Mason Disick, fathered a secret child in 2024, labelling the rumours as ‘fake’.
And after a lengthy fertility journey, Georgie Stevenson, has revealed she’s pregnant with her second child. While most followers were elated by the exciting news, the entrepreneur was forced to defend her conception timeline.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
Amy Torber and coming up on today's show, Bachelor Golden
couple Georgia Love and Lee Elliot confirm their marriage is over.
Tommy Fury lands his own documentary, Georgie Stephenson is forced
to defend her conception Timeline, and Courtney Kardashian hits back
(00:27):
at rumors she's a grandma but first og influencer Gretti
Rose has thrown serious shade at her former bestie Ashy
Binds and reignited interest in their historic friendship breakdown. Now Sophie,
every week there seems to be an old friend taking
Amy Ashy. Yeah, hasn't been a great start to the
year for her. She had that very public falling out
with her former podcast host Kiara Durro and following that
(00:50):
bust up, Kiara caught up for drinks with some of
Ashey's former friends, which included Sammy Leo, Gretti Rose, and
nat Roland to all swap stories about their experience with Ashy,
and they of course splashed that catch up all over
social media to get their followers talking. Well, there have
been rumors of a rift between Ashy and Gretty since
twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
They used to be permanent fixtures on each other's social channels.
They even appeared in best friend tag videos on YouTube,
and they tried to dress up like twins at one
point because everyone pointed out that they looked very similar.
You know, the friendship's gone to the next level when
you're dressing the same. They also seem to support each
other a lot in business, so they seem to collaborate
on their clothing brands together. But then suddenly in twenty
(01:34):
twenty two, things went really quiet between them and they
stopped appearing in each other's content, and then the dirty
unfollow happened, which is always a sign that something's gone
on behind the scenes. Yeah, the unfollow is a big thing,
especially in the social media world. That is friendship over Well.
It's almost like putting out a pr statement saying, look,
I want everyone to know that we're not friends.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah, doing this very publicly.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Solf launching the friendship breakdown. Yeah, and this was really
huge because Gretty and Ashy had been friends for well
over seven years. They even lived together before Ashe got married,
and Gretti had really built her following through Ashey's channels because,
as I said, she was a permanent fixture on her
YouTube channel. She was also a guest fitness instructor on
Ashy's Booty Tour, so she really did grow her profile
(02:16):
true befriending Ashi and no one really knows what caused
this rift because both women haven't publicly spoken about it.
I mean, there is a lot of speculation that the
falling out was perhaps over business. It was around the
same time that a riff started developing between Ashy and
her other bestie, Sammy Leo, So they appeared to fall
out over a business decision because Ashe's brand, Hideaway, released
(02:37):
a lip balm which Sammy deemed to be very similar
to her lip balm brand, which is called Breeze Balm.
Doesn't that just sound like an influencer problem, like my
lip balm is so similar to yours. Well, Sammy ended
up sharing a meme which said you know you're winning
when you're being copied, and that was after ash released
her Hideaway lip bum. So it was all very controversial
at the time. I think one of our most asked
(03:00):
questions on Instagram is what happened between Ashy and Sammy Leo.
Everyone wants us to do a deep dive. Maybe we'll
have to do one. Well, we might have to get
in contact with Samuy Leo and ash she'd actually find
out what's gone down because it seems all very secretive. Well,
it really seems that this catch up between all of
Ashey's former friends has spurred the women on to take
further potshots at Ashy. So on Sunday, Gretty took part
(03:22):
in a viral TikTok trend which is all about confronting
that one girl. So in the video, she mimed to
Kendrick Lamar's disk track not Like Us, which is rumored
to be written about Drake but.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
He keeps popping up on the show. And in the
caption it.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Said, I want to confront that one girl, but you
know they will never admit they're wrong.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Yeah, that girl.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
It was very clear off the bat who Gretty was
referring to. I mean she only has eleven thousand followers
on TikTok. This video garnered over two hundred and fifty
thousand views because everyone was sending it on. Her comment
section lit up with people commenting that it must be
Ashy and also her followers praising Gretty and the other
women for taking a step away from Ashi. Gretty went
(04:05):
as far as tagging Sammy Leo in the comment section
just to make sure she didn't miss out on the drama,
whilst Kiara Durrow, Ash's former podcast host commented with three
clapping hands, what a burn. This also seemed to spur
Kiara on to create her own video, so she also
mimed to the disk track whilst drinking a glass of
red wine and wrote the caption cheers to that. This
(04:28):
actually led to one of Ashe's friends, Meg, hitting out
in the comments section, so she wrote to Kiara, it's
so gross to see a video designed to stir up hate.
Social media has enough negativity, why add to it. If
your content relies on toxic comments for engagement, maybe it's
time for a new approach. Kiara replied, saying, feel free
in a couple of years to reach back out when
(04:49):
you're in the same boat.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
But I wish you the best.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Now both women have turned off the comments on their videos.
I'm assuming for legal reasons. I would actually pay so
much money to be a fly on the wall a
meeting between Ashy and her lawyer trying to explain this trend.
I think the trend seemed to backfire a bit on
Gretty and Kiara because there was a very mixed reaction.
Some followers love to be in on the drama and
(05:12):
the tea, and they were desperate for the women to
go into more details about their bust up with Ashi,
whilst a lot of members in our Facebook community seem
to share the same sentiment that the women should move on.
One listener wrote, there's nothing to talk about or any
tea if they're not sharing more information. We've all seen
Ashy's true colors. It's kind of boring now, whilst another said, sorry,
(05:33):
but it's childish. They are grown women. What a waste
of time and negative energy. I kind of get where
they're coming from, because even though these women might be
in the right sharing this type of content, it can
get to the point where it seems as if maybe
they're ganging up on her. Yeah, it seems like a
bit of a pylon in this case. I do see
Ashy as being the Goliath and the others as being
(05:55):
the David in the situation, because I mean, ash is
the one with the bigger profile, probably more my more
power in that situation, So I feel like they think
it's okay because they feel like they're coming against someone
who's bigger than them. I find it interesting as well
that the commentary is basically tell us what's happened, or
we're not going to be interested in.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Support your comments.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Also think that there's a bit more sympathy going Ashy's
way because she's had a really tough time with her
health over the past year or so. She's been diagnosed
with two brain aneurysms. She's had to go through two
separate surgery, so I think people are just thinking, like,
let's just move on and get over it. Well, we
spoke last week about the Michaela Testa drama and how
a lot of the back and forth between her and
(06:33):
her former friend had.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Just muddied the water.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
That's what I see with these kind of tiktoks, because
you're not really making any claims against her. You're sort
of just stirring the pot with a dog whistle. Isn't
it the ashually to react to it? I mean, I
enjoy the gossip and the tea, but I can see
why other people are saying look, just move on.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
That's the moment I met my husband.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
After months of speculation, a bachelor Golden couple, Georgia Love
and Lee Elliott, have confirmed their marriage is over. The couple,
who were together for nine years, shared identical statements on Instagram,
emphasizing there was no drama or bad blood between them now,
So this news didn't come as a shop to the public. No,
there have been persistent rumors for months now that their
(07:16):
relationship was on the rocks, because Georgia and Lee hadn't
been seen in public or posted together for over four
months on socials. Another massive giveaway was that they had
both stopped wearing their wedding bands, and they also didn't
spend Christmas together now. Rumors really intensified in the new
year when Georgia embarked on a solo trip to New
(07:36):
York and she was inundated with fans asking her where
her husband Lee was now At the time, She shut
down the rumors, saying she was incredibly tired of the
questions and that he's simply at home while she's there
visiting a friend. She went as far as saying we
didn't split. Actually, best to stop speculating, least of all
on my own page. If I had anything to tell you,
(07:57):
I would do so myself. Well, it's quite clear that
they've been trialing a separation before making it official. And
this is a massive decision for anybody, let alone when
you've met on the Bachelor and everybody is so invested
in your relationship. And we've got to remember they were
going out for nine years, they've been married for four.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
This is a really sad story.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Yeah, it would be so tough navigating it all in
the public eye, because once the genie is out of
the bottle, it's very hard to put it back in.
So ultimately, I think that they wanted to give their
relationship the space and the time and to make sure
maybe to see if spending time apart was the right
decision for them. Well, on Friday night, they pulled the pin,
as you said, and they announced their split with identical
(08:38):
statements on their Instagram stories. So Georgia's statement read, after
nine wonderful years together, including four as husband and wife,
Lee and I have made the incredibly difficult decision to
lovingly part ways. Our relationship has been so special and
we will always cherish the memories, love and laughter we've
shared There is no drama, no bad blood, just two
(08:58):
people who have grown in different directions while still holding
deep respect and care for each other. We remain friends
and thank you for giving us privacy as we navigate
the next stage. Although I knew this was coming, I
couldn't help but feel so sad. They were one of
the Bachelor's biggest success stories and they seemed like a
really genuine couple. They seem to compliment each other really well,
(09:20):
and for me, it feels like their wedding was only yesterday,
because I remember they were supposed to have this European
destination wedding but it got canceled due to COVID, so
they had a beautiful wedding in Hobart, where Georgia used
to work as a journal Well, their wedding anniversary is
actually coming up, so it's on Wednesday. So I suspect
this is why they've made this announcement, because yeah, there
(09:41):
would have been a lot of speculation about, well, why
haven't they posted something about their anniversary. Did find the
wording of the statement very interesting. I mean, it's clear
that they've spent a lot of time agonizing over getting
the wording perfect and making sure, it's clear to the
public that this is simply a case of them growing
apart and there's you know, no other parties involved. But
(10:02):
I thought it was weird how they said that they
lovingly are partying ways, because if you end your relationship,
it's generally because you've fallen out of love with someone.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
I feel like this. I feel like this. They were
trying to put a bit too much mayo.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
I sell it to a lot of people to believe
that maybe one of them wanted children and the other
one didn't, and they might still have been in love.
But some people just can't get past if one wants
them and the other one doesn't.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
I mean, I take to speculate about it.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
I saw that commentary and it made me feel really
uncomfortable because that might not be the case at all.
But I think when a couple like that breaks up,
and you know, they've made it clear that they're still
very much friends, in love and respect each other, I
think people do jump to that conclusion. For me, I
thought it maybe came down to the fact that they
do live very different lives in the sense of, you know,
for Georgia, she works in breakfast radio and she's a
(10:49):
news reader on there, she would be getting up so
early in the morning. It's a very demanding job. I
know when I worked in breakfast radio just for a
few months, I was an awful person to be around
because I was so sleep deprived. If you're getting up
at three am every morning, how are you then having
the quality time to spend with your partner. Well, it
can put a lot of pressure on your relationship. Yeah,
because Lee, he runs a large scale plumbing company, so
(11:12):
he's obviously very busy with his work as well, so
maybe they have grown apart. I thought it was clever
for them to say that there's no bad blood and
no drama, because I think a lot of people would
have then jumped to the next conclusion that maybe one
of them cheated. I mean, they're both very good looking people.
I'm sure there's lots of offers in their DM. I
think the reason why people are so upset about this,
and why people like Lee and Georgia so much is
(11:35):
despite meeting on a show like The Bachelor, they have
a very down to earth vibe, and I think that
people almost think it's kind of like their friends that
have just had this shock breakup, Like there were the
people that you would least expect to break up, and
that's why it's been met with such sadness. I do
believe that they will actually remain friends, though, because I
remember Georgia seemed to be friends with a couple of
(11:55):
the guys that she dated.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Off The Bachelor.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
I know it's not quite the same as a marriage,
but I feel like they've both got those personalities where
they do want the best for one another. I think
it's different once you've been married for nine years compared
to going on a.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Few dates on the back.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I think things change once people then finally move on
and find someone else.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
The secrets out there now.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Molly May's ex fiance Tommy Fury, has revealed he's getting
a documentary of his own. The boxer made the announcement
on BBC's social channels, promising an insight into his life
inside and outside the ring. So if this announcement comes
just weeks after part one of Molly's documentary Behind it
All dropped on Amazon.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Prime, I am so excited.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Evidently, it seems like I'm may be the only person
who is excited about this announcement. After Tommy Fury's comment section,
but the documentary is called Tommy The Good, The Bad,
the Fury, which that makes me excited, and it is
expected to drop in between part one and Part two
of Molly's doco now. The series is being produced by
the same production company which produced Tommy's brother Tyson Fury's
(13:00):
recent show, which was called At Home with the Furies,
And just like Molly, Tommy has had camera crews following
him for months now now. The BBC have described the
documentary as a candid access all areas series and in
their press release, the BBC said, just a year ago,
Tommy Fury seemed to have it all, victory over his
biggest adversary, Jake paul A, love with Molly May and
(13:23):
a beautiful baby daughter, Bambi. But in his last fight
he damaged his hand and unable to train. His life
spun out of control. Sounds very dramatic.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
It does sound dramatic.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Why do I think that so much of this is
just going to be him in the ring and it's
going to be boring though they have been teasing that
it's going to concentrate also on his personal life. But
I think that they are going to want to make
this a documentary, not just for women, but also for
men who will find the fighting side of it interesting.
There's a lot of pressure on the success of this
documentary because Molly's has just been such a knockout of
(13:54):
a prime Yeah, but Molly also received some criticism for
its sort of being too overly produced, not serious enough. Yeah,
but it rated so well.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Interesting. It's on the BBC. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Well, Tommy actually made the announcement on BBC's Socials. It
looked like he had just filmed sort of a piece
to camera.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Here's what he said about it.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
The secrets out there now. Me and the BBC have
been working closely on something very special. The cameras have
been following me for a few months now, inside the Ring,
outside the Ring, all accesses of my life, and I
can't wait for you all to see. It's coming later
on in the year. It's going to be on BBC
Three and BBCi Player. Take easy, guys and keep them
as Field.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
I had to watch it a few times because it
almost looked like AI. Yeah, there was something that wasn't
quite right about it. He almost looked too filtered or something.
Maybe he'd accidentally put a filter on who knows now.
Tommy followed up saying a lot of people see me
in the ring, they see me on social media, but
they don't see me the person behind all of that.
I'm excited for everyone to finally be able to see
(14:54):
what goes on behind the scenes, how the big fights
are made, all the ups and downs, as well as
a glimpse into my life. It's pretty clear that Molly
won't feature in this because Tommy has not featured in
Molly's Amazon Prime series at all. I'm assuming as well
that because Molly has his documentary with Amazon, she can't
just be popping up on the BBC. Yeah. I don't
think we're going to be seeing her in it at all,
(15:16):
and it does make.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Sense, particularly if they have separate deals.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
I'm sure there's contracts in place that they have to
align with that particular streaming service. I wantn't know if
it was filmed at the exact same time as Part one,
and will this also be coming out as a Part
one Part two. Yeah. Well, it is safe to say
that not everyone is excited about this documentary. The comment
section under this BBC post were absolutely brutal. One user
(15:39):
road I'll be busy watching Paint Dry Sorry, which received
over six thousand likes, whilst another said I just feel
like they're milking us. In fact, I did not see
one positive comment from anyone expressing that they were looking
forward to watching. I'm not surprised because there was so
much talk around Molly's documentary that the whole thing was
a big publicity stunt between them. I mean, they both
(15:59):
seem to be gaining a lot out of this breakup.
That's the thing that has been this commentary that this
announcement just proves that the breakup was a huge publicity stunt.
But I actually think it does the opposite, because to me,
this documentary is all about giving Tommy a much needed
redemption arc before he and Molly officially get back together.
We all know that it's heading in that direction after
(16:20):
their New Year's even couldn't. But wouldn't that prove the
theory that this is a huge publicity stunt and that
they were always going to break up together. Why would
you put your family through all of it? I think
that it was clear that his excessive drinking and partying
was getting out into the public. Molly and her team
couldn't manage it anymore. They couldn't stop this avalanche of
rumors that all these girls are bringing out there. I
(16:43):
genuinely think that Molly's only option at that time was
to legitimately break up with him.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Because oh, I agree.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
I mean, there's no way you would go through all
of this as a stage breakup. Yeah, I know, and
no one would want that scrutiny on their young family.
And also, Tommy has absolutely copped it on social media.
His image is down the toilet. Everyone has been horrific
to him. You know, they've got enough money. They're not
going to just blow their lives up so that they
(17:09):
can sell a clothing line that would have sold it
anyway and get these documentaries. These documentary offers would have
been on the table the second that Tyson Furies documentary
did so well. And for Molly, she has been hell
bent on building this picture perfect relationship online and her
relationship is always going to be tarnished because of this breakoup.
Do you think that this documentary is going to have
(17:31):
as many TikTok moments or memeable moments that Molly's did.
I definitely think it has the potential to be memorable
because I think that Molly's followers will be holding onto
every little thing he says about Molly and their relationship
going forward. Well, also the fact that it's been made
by the same people who made it Home with the Furies.
I mean, that is one show that really went off
on TikTok. Yeah. I feel like they're going to try
(17:53):
and make this documentary really serious, and I think that
the BBC has the ability.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
To turn him from the villain into.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
The which I think Molly and her team are hoping for,
because they're probably going to go into the massive impacts
that this hand injury has had on his mental health
and how it led to his alcohol addiction and how.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
It's all spiraled.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
And I think that they're going to really demonstrate the
emotional impact that all of this trolling has also had
on Tommy, which is going to lead people to feel
really bad and tug at the heart strings. And ultimately,
I think that this is going to drop before part
two of Molly's docco so that the public is geared
up to see them back together. So he's going to
be portrayed in this great light and everyone's going to
(18:32):
be like, yeah, thank God, they're back together. He just
had this hurdle in his life that was difficult. Well,
look I'm here for this fairy tale. I'm here for
this rekindling of Molly and Tommy. And as you said,
having it played on the BBC is going to add
that more serious element to the story. I mean, how
do we watch it here? I don't even know what
the BBC streaming services. I'm sure someone will pick it up,
maybe ABC iView or something like that. We'll have to
(18:54):
figure it out, because I am really keen to watch this.
I think I've got more chances of persuading my husband
to watch this with the boxing scenes. Maybe they can't
eat this, but how exciting is it to smell it?
Courtney Kardashian has shut down claims her fifteen year old
son Mason Dizzick fathered a secret child in twenty twenty four,
(19:14):
Labeling the rumors as fake. The forty five year old
hit out on Instagram, calling on the media to leave.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Her children alone.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Amy, I have seen this popping up all over my
TikTok and mainstream media have also picked up on this story.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
How did this all begin?
Speaker 1 (19:30):
So the rumors began spreading because an Instagram account claiming
to be Mason popped up and revealed the baby news.
So the account called Mason ddsh uploaded a question and
answered box and answered a series of questions relating to
this supposed secret child. So one user wrote in asking
did you have a baby, and the account responded, yeah,
(19:52):
I did. Another asked for a picture of Piper now
that is the rumored child's name, and the account shared
what looked to me like an AI image of a child.
Another person asked who is Piper, to which the account
responded a failed protection. These screenshots started being shared all
over TikTok, and a lot of creators started sharing reaction videos,
(20:13):
and many people were shocked at the prospect the Courtney
cut ashy and could be a grammar at just forty five.
I remember it was such a shock when she got
pregnant with Mason, because she and her sister Chloe had
just launched Courtney and Chloe Take Miami, and it was
meant to be about them being single and meeting new
people after she had split from Scott, But of course
she and Scott ended up having Mason together. Yeah, was
(20:35):
sort of ruined a few of their storylines, didn't it.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
It was crazy to think if they had TikTok then.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
I just can't believe that Mason is fifteen years old,
because I feel like we've been seeing all these old
paparazzi images of him as a child, like just in kids' clothes,
and I was like, this is bullshit. There is absolutely
no way that he could have fathered this child. But
then there were some main street media publications who started
sharing peace pictures of him looking much older, and I thought,
(21:02):
maybe it's a possibility.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
And something that.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Seemed to fan this rumor even more was that Chris
Jennet allegedly gifted a gingerbread house to the Barkers over
Christmas with the name Piper on it, and this has
become a Christmas tradition for the Kardashians. She gives these
elaborate gingerbread houses, and people are convinced that she'd personalized
one with Piper.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
I want to see the screenshots.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Yeah. Well. The rumors also coincided with Scott Distick opening
up about Mason on Chloe Kardashian's podcast. He told Chloe
Mason started to really like girls, and obviously girls like him.
I just said, you can do whatever you want, just
don't lie and don't manipulate any girls. So if a
girl tells you she wants to maybe do something with
you and like hook up or whatever. If she knows
(21:46):
that you're not in a relationship with her, don't tell
her you were just going to get something out of her.
I think a lot of people read into that commentary
from Scott because I mean, Scott was such a ladies
man on keeping up with the Kardashians. He was often
caught out cheating on Courtney, and I think people think, oh, gosh,
is Mason a little Scott now, Like is he mimicking
his dad's behavior. I thought the Kardashians would kind of
(22:09):
not be enjoying this rumor, but a lot of people
have been saying that they aren't in the zeitgeist anymore.
No one really cares about them. They're not big news,
Like apparently the search is for Kim Kardashian a drastically
down at the moment. Their new show doesn't seem to
be going well, no one really cares about it. But
I was like, maybe this is true, and maybe this
(22:29):
is a way for them to get attention and it's
going to be a future storyline. There have been some
pretty wild rumors floating around, and one of those is
that the Kardashian family have leaked this story about Mason
in order to divert attention away from Travis Barker's daughter Alabama.
I don't know if you know much about herself, but
there's been so much on TikTok and also so much
in the press about this few that Alabama is having
(22:51):
with a rapp called Bad Barbie. I mean, it's getting
very nasty. So the latest is that Bad Barbie has
accused Alabama of getting pregnant to wrap it Tiger, which
is super awkward when you know the connection with the
Kardashian family. Yeah, because Kylie Jenna dated Tiger when she
was just seventeen years old, and then Tiger also shares
(23:11):
a baby with Rob Kardashian's baby Mama Black China, So
I mean it kind of would make sense, though he
seems to like the family wants to be part of it. Well.
Alabama and Tiger have both denied these rumors. I mean,
I think it's pretty wild to think that someone like
Chris Jenna, the grandmother of Mason, would come out and
be like, wait a sec, we're going to just throw
Mason under the bus and make up this fake rumor
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that he's got a secret child. I really don't think
that Chris Jenna would sell her grandson out like that.
I think that they'd be trying to avoid any pregnancy rumors.
And it's pretty clear that this rumor has really affected
Courtney Kardashian and her family, because she addressed the rumors
on Monday and wrote on Instagram. I rarely address rumors
or conspiracies regarding myself or my family, but this is
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about my child and it feels wrong to let anyone
think for a second that these lives are remotely true.
They are not. Mason does not have a child. These
accounts that pretend to be him are definitely not.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
They are fake.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
My son really values his privacy, and I'm asking all
media to please be respectful. He is a kid with
feelings and a beautiful life ahead of him. Please stop
spreading false narratives and spinning lies. And to all the
other people making videos about my kids, who by the way,
are miners, please stop and leave them alone. This whole
tobacle reminds me a lot of the Cape Middleton saga
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on TikTok, where all those videos started spreading and then
everyone started buying into them. I think another reason why
so many people were quick to believe these rumors is
because Mason has been known to go rogue on Instagram before,
because back in twenty twenty, he made up an Instagram
live and started answering fan questions, and one of the
questions he answered was was his auntie Kylie back with
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Travis Scott and he said, no, they're not back together.
It does disturb me, though, that these type of rumors
can spread like wildfire on TikTok and people just start
to believe them as fat. I mean the fact that
a lot of mainstream media were printing these accusations as well,
purely because someone's jumped on TikTok and said, oh yeah,
this must be true, like someone's set of a fake
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account for a fifteen year old.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Where is the proof?
Speaker 1 (25:12):
I think it says a lot about journalism ethics as well,
because this is a minor. At the end of the day,
it doesn't matter if it's a celebrities child or not.
They're posting untrue allegations as if facts. Well, a lot
of people have said they think it's ridiculous that Courtney's
come out asking for privacy when she plasters her children
on her social media channel and also on a TV show,
so she plasters them all over social media. I think
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sharing a photo of your child isn't plastering. They mean
that they've been their whole lives, have been on TV
on the poast. Doesn't it mean that people can make
up vicious rumors about your fifteen year old fathering a child.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Yeah? I have this theory with pregnancy.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
After a lengthy fertility journey, Georgie Stevenson has revealed she's
pregnant with her second child. While most followers were elated
by the exciting news, the entrepreneur was forced to defend
her conception timeline. Now, so before we get into it,
can you tell us more about Georgie's fertility journey. Yeah,
She's always been very open with her followers about her
struggles to conceive, and before she gave birth to her daughter, Ivy,
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Georgie was actually told that she was infertile due to
thyroid complications, but she ended up falling pregnant after eight
months of trying to conceive. Now, very sadly, she did
suffer a miscarriage, but then went on to have Ivy
in late twenty twenty one. After going through IUI yeah.
And at the end of last year, Georgie also revealed
that she and her husband Tim had been trying for
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a baby since the beginning of the year, but were
having trouble. In a candid reel, she shared a compilation
of diary entries she'd filmed throughout the year, where she
spoke about the toll the journey was taking on her
mental health. In the Captain of the Real, Georgie confessed
she was feeling exhausted and defeated.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Super disappointing. I also feel into the bruiser. I also
feel like quite sick. My doctor said, like never in
his career just happened to a patient and he just
feels so devastated for us.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Now, Georgie actually wasn't going to share that real until
she fell pregnant, but thought, well, it's going to help
other people going through a similar thing. I'll be vulnerable
and I will share it whilst I'm going through the journey.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
And I think that was a really.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Good decision by Georgie because it would have helped so
many people feel less alone. Now, if we fast forward
three months, Georgie announced the exciting news that she is
pregnant with her second child. The couple shared a gorgeous
photo shoot and also a video showing their reactions to
the positive pregnancy test. I was so happy for them
when this post popped up. It was a really special moment,
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particularly knowing just what they'd been through and how special
it was for them. And while most of Georgie's followers
were ecstatic for her, one follower wrote, wait, so when
you post in December crying in your car that you
weren't pregnant, you actually were pregnant, whilst others chimed in
saying she must have been lying. My god, I just
don't know what would bring you to write something like
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that on somebody's pregnancy announcement. And I was really happy
because Georgie came online and she shut down the allegations
straight away.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
So she shared a.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Screenshot of the comment to her Instagram story and wrote,
also to those trying to catch me out for posting
our infertility journey and accusing me of lying or whatever, Guys,
please start being obsessed with your own life, not mine.
But in all seriousness, here are the receipts because you
seemed really worried about it. So she went on to
share the receipts, which were screenshots of the dates the
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content was taken, and it turns out that the real
she shared about her fertility journey was uploaded on the
third of December, while she took the pregnancy test on
the eleventh of December. So she went on to write, like,
I get it. What a crazy miracle that I finally
posted about our infertility after twelve months then got pregnant
that month. Talk about the energy of divine timing, surrender,
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and detachment. I also understand that maybe triggering if you're
going through your own stuff, but surely you can just
be happy for a family finally getting their miracle baby.
She then wanted to say that she understands that people
are curious and she will share more on her podcast
and YouTube about their journey and offered people to DM
her if they had any questions. It is really sad
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because often when influencers put up their pregnancy announcements, a
lot of people do get triggered who are going through
these fertility journeys, and you can see why people lash out,
But in this instance, it just seems really unfair because
all of her followers knew she had struggled previously.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
To conceive it.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Seems like a bit of misplaced digression in some instances,
And I just think that we really need to encourage
people to speak openly about their fertility struggles. And it's
really concerning to me that people are attacking a woman
over being vulnerable about her fertility journey.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Like trying to catch her out.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Yeah, Like, why are we trying to catch someone out?
I mean, she was vulnerable enough to open up about
it and on numerous occasions and share about her miscarriage
and share about her struggles. And then we say, oh,
hold in a second, you were lying to us the
whole time, even if she did post when she knew
that she was pregnant, which isn't the case.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Who fucking cares well.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
It's also like, can we just give her the benefit
of the doubt, because, I mean, the accusation seems to
be that she's using this her infertility struggles to get
views or lives. Dog Stevenson doesn't need to do that.
That's not really what her content's about any more. Her
content is more about business and also about her courses
and that kind of thing. She doesn't need that content
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to do well. I just think people need to stop
being dickheads online, like there should just be a no
dickhead rule in the comment section, which I suppose there
probably wouldn't be much engagement online anymore. But I think
that is all we have time for today. Thank you
so much for joining us for this episode. If you
have enjoyed it, could you please make sure you are
subscribed on Apple Podcasts and also Spotify. This episode was
recorded on the traditional land of the Guana people of
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the Adelaide Plains.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
We pay respect to elders past and present,
Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
Amy Torber and coming up on today's show, Bachelor Golden
couple Georgia Love and Lee Elliot confirm their marriage is over.
Tommy Fury lands his own documentary, Georgie Stephenson is forced
to defend her conception Timeline, and Courtney Kardashian hits back
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at rumors she's a grandma but first og influencer Gretti
Rose has thrown serious shade at her former bestie Ashy
Binds and reignited interest in their historic friendship breakdown. Now Sophie,
every week there seems to be an old friend taking
Amy Ashy. Yeah, hasn't been a great start to the
year for her. She had that very public falling out
with her former podcast host Kiara Durro and following that
(00:50):
bust up, Kiara caught up for drinks with some of
Ashey's former friends, which included Sammy Leo, Gretti Rose, and
nat Roland to all swap stories about their experience with Ashy,
and they of course splashed that catch up all over
social media to get their followers talking. Well, there have
been rumors of a rift between Ashy and Gretty since
twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
They used to be permanent fixtures on each other's social channels.
They even appeared in best friend tag videos on YouTube,
and they tried to dress up like twins at one
point because everyone pointed out that they looked very similar.
You know, the friendship's gone to the next level when
you're dressing the same. They also seem to support each
other a lot in business, so they seem to collaborate
on their clothing brands together. But then suddenly in twenty
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twenty two, things went really quiet between them and they
stopped appearing in each other's content, and then the dirty
unfollow happened, which is always a sign that something's gone
on behind the scenes. Yeah, the unfollow is a big thing,
especially in the social media world. That is friendship over Well.
It's almost like putting out a pr statement saying, look,
I want everyone to know that we're not friends.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah, doing this very publicly.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Solf launching the friendship breakdown. Yeah, and this was really
huge because Gretty and Ashy had been friends for well
over seven years. They even lived together before Ashe got married,
and Gretti had really built her following through Ashey's channels because,
as I said, she was a permanent fixture on her
YouTube channel. She was also a guest fitness instructor on
Ashy's Booty Tour, so she really did grow her profile
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true befriending Ashi and no one really knows what caused
this rift because both women haven't publicly spoken about it.
I mean, there is a lot of speculation that the
falling out was perhaps over business. It was around the
same time that a riff started developing between Ashy and
her other bestie, Sammy Leo, So they appeared to fall
out over a business decision because Ashe's brand, Hideaway, released
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a lip balm which Sammy deemed to be very similar
to her lip balm brand, which is called Breeze Balm.
Doesn't that just sound like an influencer problem, like my
lip balm is so similar to yours. Well, Sammy ended
up sharing a meme which said you know you're winning
when you're being copied, and that was after ash released
her Hideaway lip bum. So it was all very controversial
at the time. I think one of our most asked
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questions on Instagram is what happened between Ashy and Sammy Leo.
Everyone wants us to do a deep dive. Maybe we'll
have to do one. Well, we might have to get
in contact with Samuy Leo and ash she'd actually find
out what's gone down because it seems all very secretive. Well,
it really seems that this catch up between all of
Ashey's former friends has spurred the women on to take
further potshots at Ashy. So on Sunday, Gretty took part
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in a viral TikTok trend which is all about confronting
that one girl. So in the video, she mimed to
Kendrick Lamar's disk track not Like Us, which is rumored
to be written about Drake but.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
He keeps popping up on the show. And in the
caption it.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Said, I want to confront that one girl, but you
know they will never admit they're wrong.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Yeah, that girl.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
It was very clear off the bat who Gretty was
referring to. I mean she only has eleven thousand followers
on TikTok. This video garnered over two hundred and fifty
thousand views because everyone was sending it on. Her comment
section lit up with people commenting that it must be
Ashy and also her followers praising Gretty and the other
women for taking a step away from Ashi. Gretty went
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as far as tagging Sammy Leo in the comment section
just to make sure she didn't miss out on the drama,
whilst Kiara Durrow, Ash's former podcast host commented with three
clapping hands, what a burn. This also seemed to spur
Kiara on to create her own video, so she also
mimed to the disk track whilst drinking a glass of
red wine and wrote the caption cheers to that. This
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actually led to one of Ashe's friends, Meg, hitting out
in the comments section, so she wrote to Kiara, it's
so gross to see a video designed to stir up hate.
Social media has enough negativity, why add to it. If
your content relies on toxic comments for engagement, maybe it's
time for a new approach. Kiara replied, saying, feel free
in a couple of years to reach back out when
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you're in the same boat.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
But I wish you the best.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Now both women have turned off the comments on their videos.
I'm assuming for legal reasons. I would actually pay so
much money to be a fly on the wall a
meeting between Ashy and her lawyer trying to explain this trend.
I think the trend seemed to backfire a bit on
Gretty and Kiara because there was a very mixed reaction.
Some followers love to be in on the drama and
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the tea, and they were desperate for the women to
go into more details about their bust up with Ashi,
whilst a lot of members in our Facebook community seem
to share the same sentiment that the women should move on.
One listener wrote, there's nothing to talk about or any
tea if they're not sharing more information. We've all seen
Ashy's true colors. It's kind of boring now, whilst another said, sorry,
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but it's childish. They are grown women. What a waste
of time and negative energy. I kind of get where
they're coming from, because even though these women might be
in the right sharing this type of content, it can
get to the point where it seems as if maybe
they're ganging up on her. Yeah, it seems like a
bit of a pylon in this case. I do see
Ashy as being the Goliath and the others as being
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the David in the situation, because I mean, ash is
the one with the bigger profile, probably more my more
power in that situation, So I feel like they think
it's okay because they feel like they're coming against someone
who's bigger than them. I find it interesting as well
that the commentary is basically tell us what's happened, or
we're not going to be interested in.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Support your comments.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Also think that there's a bit more sympathy going Ashy's
way because she's had a really tough time with her
health over the past year or so. She's been diagnosed
with two brain aneurysms. She's had to go through two
separate surgery, so I think people are just thinking, like,
let's just move on and get over it. Well, we
spoke last week about the Michaela Testa drama and how
a lot of the back and forth between her and
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her former friend had.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Just muddied the water.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
That's what I see with these kind of tiktoks, because
you're not really making any claims against her. You're sort
of just stirring the pot with a dog whistle. Isn't
it the ashually to react to it? I mean, I
enjoy the gossip and the tea, but I can see
why other people are saying look, just move on.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
That's the moment I met my husband.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
After months of speculation, a bachelor Golden couple, Georgia Love
and Lee Elliott, have confirmed their marriage is over. The couple,
who were together for nine years, shared identical statements on Instagram,
emphasizing there was no drama or bad blood between them now,
So this news didn't come as a shop to the public. No,
there have been persistent rumors for months now that their
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relationship was on the rocks, because Georgia and Lee hadn't
been seen in public or posted together for over four
months on socials. Another massive giveaway was that they had
both stopped wearing their wedding bands, and they also didn't
spend Christmas together now. Rumors really intensified in the new
year when Georgia embarked on a solo trip to New
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York and she was inundated with fans asking her where
her husband Lee was now At the time, She shut
down the rumors, saying she was incredibly tired of the
questions and that he's simply at home while she's there
visiting a friend. She went as far as saying we
didn't split. Actually, best to stop speculating, least of all
on my own page. If I had anything to tell you,
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I would do so myself. Well, it's quite clear that
they've been trialing a separation before making it official. And
this is a massive decision for anybody, let alone when
you've met on the Bachelor and everybody is so invested
in your relationship. And we've got to remember they were
going out for nine years, they've been married for four.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
This is a really sad story.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Yeah, it would be so tough navigating it all in
the public eye, because once the genie is out of
the bottle, it's very hard to put it back in.
So ultimately, I think that they wanted to give their
relationship the space and the time and to make sure
maybe to see if spending time apart was the right
decision for them. Well, on Friday night, they pulled the pin,
as you said, and they announced their split with identical
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statements on their Instagram stories. So Georgia's statement read, after
nine wonderful years together, including four as husband and wife,
Lee and I have made the incredibly difficult decision to
lovingly part ways. Our relationship has been so special and
we will always cherish the memories, love and laughter we've
shared There is no drama, no bad blood, just two
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people who have grown in different directions while still holding
deep respect and care for each other. We remain friends
and thank you for giving us privacy as we navigate
the next stage. Although I knew this was coming, I
couldn't help but feel so sad. They were one of
the Bachelor's biggest success stories and they seemed like a
really genuine couple. They seem to compliment each other really well,
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and for me, it feels like their wedding was only yesterday,
because I remember they were supposed to have this European
destination wedding but it got canceled due to COVID, so
they had a beautiful wedding in Hobart, where Georgia used
to work as a journal Well, their wedding anniversary is
actually coming up, so it's on Wednesday. So I suspect
this is why they've made this announcement, because yeah, there
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would have been a lot of speculation about, well, why
haven't they posted something about their anniversary. Did find the
wording of the statement very interesting. I mean, it's clear
that they've spent a lot of time agonizing over getting
the wording perfect and making sure, it's clear to the
public that this is simply a case of them growing
apart and there's you know, no other parties involved. But
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I thought it was weird how they said that they
lovingly are partying ways, because if you end your relationship,
it's generally because you've fallen out of love with someone.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
I feel like this. I feel like this. They were
trying to put a bit too much mayo.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
I sell it to a lot of people to believe
that maybe one of them wanted children and the other
one didn't, and they might still have been in love.
But some people just can't get past if one wants
them and the other one doesn't.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
I mean, I take to speculate about it.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
I saw that commentary and it made me feel really
uncomfortable because that might not be the case at all.
But I think when a couple like that breaks up,
and you know, they've made it clear that they're still
very much friends, in love and respect each other, I
think people do jump to that conclusion. For me, I
thought it maybe came down to the fact that they
do live very different lives in the sense of, you know,
for Georgia, she works in breakfast radio and she's a
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news reader on there, she would be getting up so
early in the morning. It's a very demanding job. I
know when I worked in breakfast radio just for a
few months, I was an awful person to be around
because I was so sleep deprived. If you're getting up
at three am every morning, how are you then having
the quality time to spend with your partner. Well, it
can put a lot of pressure on your relationship. Yeah,
because Lee, he runs a large scale plumbing company, so
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he's obviously very busy with his work as well, so
maybe they have grown apart. I thought it was clever
for them to say that there's no bad blood and
no drama, because I think a lot of people would
have then jumped to the next conclusion that maybe one
of them cheated. I mean, they're both very good looking people.
I'm sure there's lots of offers in their DM. I
think the reason why people are so upset about this,
and why people like Lee and Georgia so much is
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despite meeting on a show like The Bachelor, they have
a very down to earth vibe, and I think that
people almost think it's kind of like their friends that
have just had this shock breakup, Like there were the
people that you would least expect to break up, and
that's why it's been met with such sadness. I do
believe that they will actually remain friends, though, because I
remember Georgia seemed to be friends with a couple of
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the guys that she dated.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Off The Bachelor.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
I know it's not quite the same as a marriage,
but I feel like they've both got those personalities where
they do want the best for one another. I think
it's different once you've been married for nine years compared
to going on a.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Few dates on the back.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I think things change once people then finally move on
and find someone else.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
The secrets out there now.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Molly May's ex fiance Tommy Fury, has revealed he's getting
a documentary of his own. The boxer made the announcement
on BBC's social channels, promising an insight into his life
inside and outside the ring. So if this announcement comes
just weeks after part one of Molly's documentary Behind it
All dropped on Amazon.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Prime, I am so excited.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Evidently, it seems like I'm may be the only person
who is excited about this announcement. After Tommy Fury's comment section,
but the documentary is called Tommy The Good, The Bad,
the Fury, which that makes me excited, and it is
expected to drop in between part one and Part two
of Molly's doco now. The series is being produced by
the same production company which produced Tommy's brother Tyson Fury's
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recent show, which was called At Home with the Furies,
And just like Molly, Tommy has had camera crews following
him for months now now. The BBC have described the
documentary as a candid access all areas series and in
their press release, the BBC said, just a year ago,
Tommy Fury seemed to have it all, victory over his
biggest adversary, Jake paul A, love with Molly May and
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a beautiful baby daughter, Bambi. But in his last fight
he damaged his hand and unable to train. His life
spun out of control. Sounds very dramatic.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
It does sound dramatic.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Why do I think that so much of this is
just going to be him in the ring and it's
going to be boring though they have been teasing that
it's going to concentrate also on his personal life. But
I think that they are going to want to make
this a documentary, not just for women, but also for
men who will find the fighting side of it interesting.
There's a lot of pressure on the success of this
documentary because Molly's has just been such a knockout of
(13:54):
a prime Yeah, but Molly also received some criticism for
its sort of being too overly produced, not serious enough. Yeah,
but it rated so well.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Interesting. It's on the BBC. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Well, Tommy actually made the announcement on BBC's Socials. It
looked like he had just filmed sort of a piece
to camera.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Here's what he said about it.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
The secrets out there now. Me and the BBC have
been working closely on something very special. The cameras have
been following me for a few months now, inside the Ring,
outside the Ring, all accesses of my life, and I
can't wait for you all to see. It's coming later
on in the year. It's going to be on BBC
Three and BBCi Player. Take easy, guys and keep them
as Field.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
I had to watch it a few times because it
almost looked like AI. Yeah, there was something that wasn't
quite right about it. He almost looked too filtered or something.
Maybe he'd accidentally put a filter on who knows now.
Tommy followed up saying a lot of people see me
in the ring, they see me on social media, but
they don't see me the person behind all of that.
I'm excited for everyone to finally be able to see
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what goes on behind the scenes, how the big fights
are made, all the ups and downs, as well as
a glimpse into my life. It's pretty clear that Molly
won't feature in this because Tommy has not featured in
Molly's Amazon Prime series at all. I'm assuming as well
that because Molly has his documentary with Amazon, she can't
just be popping up on the BBC. Yeah. I don't
think we're going to be seeing her in it at all,
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and it does make.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Sense, particularly if they have separate deals.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
I'm sure there's contracts in place that they have to
align with that particular streaming service. I wantn't know if
it was filmed at the exact same time as Part one,
and will this also be coming out as a Part
one Part two. Yeah. Well, it is safe to say
that not everyone is excited about this documentary. The comment
section under this BBC post were absolutely brutal. One user
(15:39):
road I'll be busy watching Paint Dry Sorry, which received
over six thousand likes, whilst another said I just feel
like they're milking us. In fact, I did not see
one positive comment from anyone expressing that they were looking
forward to watching. I'm not surprised because there was so
much talk around Molly's documentary that the whole thing was
a big publicity stunt between them. I mean, they both
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seem to be gaining a lot out of this breakup.
That's the thing that has been this commentary that this
announcement just proves that the breakup was a huge publicity stunt.
But I actually think it does the opposite, because to me,
this documentary is all about giving Tommy a much needed
redemption arc before he and Molly officially get back together.
We all know that it's heading in that direction after
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their New Year's even couldn't. But wouldn't that prove the
theory that this is a huge publicity stunt and that
they were always going to break up together. Why would
you put your family through all of it? I think
that it was clear that his excessive drinking and partying
was getting out into the public. Molly and her team
couldn't manage it anymore. They couldn't stop this avalanche of
rumors that all these girls are bringing out there. I
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genuinely think that Molly's only option at that time was
to legitimately break up with him.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Because oh, I agree.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
I mean, there's no way you would go through all
of this as a stage breakup. Yeah, I know, and
no one would want that scrutiny on their young family.
And also, Tommy has absolutely copped it on social media.
His image is down the toilet. Everyone has been horrific
to him. You know, they've got enough money. They're not
going to just blow their lives up so that they
(17:09):
can sell a clothing line that would have sold it
anyway and get these documentaries. These documentary offers would have
been on the table the second that Tyson Furies documentary
did so well. And for Molly, she has been hell
bent on building this picture perfect relationship online and her
relationship is always going to be tarnished because of this breakoup.
Do you think that this documentary is going to have
(17:31):
as many TikTok moments or memeable moments that Molly's did.
I definitely think it has the potential to be memorable
because I think that Molly's followers will be holding onto
every little thing he says about Molly and their relationship
going forward. Well, also the fact that it's been made
by the same people who made it Home with the Furies.
I mean, that is one show that really went off
on TikTok. Yeah. I feel like they're going to try
(17:53):
and make this documentary really serious, and I think that
the BBC has the ability.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
To turn him from the villain into.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
The which I think Molly and her team are hoping for,
because they're probably going to go into the massive impacts
that this hand injury has had on his mental health
and how it led to his alcohol addiction and how.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
It's all spiraled.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
And I think that they're going to really demonstrate the
emotional impact that all of this trolling has also had
on Tommy, which is going to lead people to feel
really bad and tug at the heart strings. And ultimately,
I think that this is going to drop before part
two of Molly's docco so that the public is geared
up to see them back together. So he's going to
be portrayed in this great light and everyone's going to
(18:32):
be like, yeah, thank God, they're back together. He just
had this hurdle in his life that was difficult. Well,
look I'm here for this fairy tale. I'm here for
this rekindling of Molly and Tommy. And as you said,
having it played on the BBC is going to add
that more serious element to the story. I mean, how
do we watch it here? I don't even know what
the BBC streaming services. I'm sure someone will pick it up,
maybe ABC iView or something like that. We'll have to
(18:54):
figure it out, because I am really keen to watch this.
I think I've got more chances of persuading my husband
to watch this with the boxing scenes. Maybe they can't
eat this, but how exciting is it to smell it?
Courtney Kardashian has shut down claims her fifteen year old
son Mason Dizzick fathered a secret child in twenty twenty four,
(19:14):
Labeling the rumors as fake. The forty five year old
hit out on Instagram, calling on the media to leave.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Her children alone.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Amy, I have seen this popping up all over my
TikTok and mainstream media have also picked up on this story.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
How did this all begin?
Speaker 1 (19:30):
So the rumors began spreading because an Instagram account claiming
to be Mason popped up and revealed the baby news.
So the account called Mason ddsh uploaded a question and
answered box and answered a series of questions relating to
this supposed secret child. So one user wrote in asking
did you have a baby, and the account responded, yeah,
(19:52):
I did. Another asked for a picture of Piper now
that is the rumored child's name, and the account shared
what looked to me like an AI image of a child.
Another person asked who is Piper, to which the account
responded a failed protection. These screenshots started being shared all
over TikTok, and a lot of creators started sharing reaction videos,
(20:13):
and many people were shocked at the prospect the Courtney
cut ashy and could be a grammar at just forty five.
I remember it was such a shock when she got
pregnant with Mason, because she and her sister Chloe had
just launched Courtney and Chloe Take Miami, and it was
meant to be about them being single and meeting new
people after she had split from Scott, But of course
she and Scott ended up having Mason together. Yeah, was
(20:35):
sort of ruined a few of their storylines, didn't it.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
It was crazy to think if they had TikTok then.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
I just can't believe that Mason is fifteen years old,
because I feel like we've been seeing all these old
paparazzi images of him as a child, like just in kids' clothes,
and I was like, this is bullshit. There is absolutely
no way that he could have fathered this child. But
then there were some main street media publications who started
sharing peace pictures of him looking much older, and I thought,
(21:02):
maybe it's a possibility.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
And something that.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Seemed to fan this rumor even more was that Chris
Jennet allegedly gifted a gingerbread house to the Barkers over
Christmas with the name Piper on it, and this has
become a Christmas tradition for the Kardashians. She gives these
elaborate gingerbread houses, and people are convinced that she'd personalized
one with Piper.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
I want to see the screenshots.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Yeah. Well. The rumors also coincided with Scott Distick opening
up about Mason on Chloe Kardashian's podcast. He told Chloe
Mason started to really like girls, and obviously girls like him.
I just said, you can do whatever you want, just
don't lie and don't manipulate any girls. So if a
girl tells you she wants to maybe do something with
you and like hook up or whatever. If she knows
(21:46):
that you're not in a relationship with her, don't tell
her you were just going to get something out of her.
I think a lot of people read into that commentary
from Scott because I mean, Scott was such a ladies
man on keeping up with the Kardashians. He was often
caught out cheating on Courtney, and I think people think, oh, gosh,
is Mason a little Scott now, Like is he mimicking
his dad's behavior. I thought the Kardashians would kind of
(22:09):
not be enjoying this rumor, but a lot of people
have been saying that they aren't in the zeitgeist anymore.
No one really cares about them. They're not big news,
Like apparently the search is for Kim Kardashian a drastically
down at the moment. Their new show doesn't seem to
be going well, no one really cares about it. But
I was like, maybe this is true, and maybe this
(22:29):
is a way for them to get attention and it's
going to be a future storyline. There have been some
pretty wild rumors floating around, and one of those is
that the Kardashian family have leaked this story about Mason
in order to divert attention away from Travis Barker's daughter Alabama.
I don't know if you know much about herself, but
there's been so much on TikTok and also so much
in the press about this few that Alabama is having
(22:51):
with a rapp called Bad Barbie. I mean, it's getting
very nasty. So the latest is that Bad Barbie has
accused Alabama of getting pregnant to wrap it Tiger, which
is super awkward when you know the connection with the
Kardashian family. Yeah, because Kylie Jenna dated Tiger when she
was just seventeen years old, and then Tiger also shares
(23:11):
a baby with Rob Kardashian's baby Mama Black China, So
I mean it kind of would make sense, though he
seems to like the family wants to be part of it. Well.
Alabama and Tiger have both denied these rumors. I mean,
I think it's pretty wild to think that someone like
Chris Jenna, the grandmother of Mason, would come out and
be like, wait a sec, we're going to just throw
Mason under the bus and make up this fake rumor
(23:33):
that he's got a secret child. I really don't think
that Chris Jenna would sell her grandson out like that.
I think that they'd be trying to avoid any pregnancy rumors.
And it's pretty clear that this rumor has really affected
Courtney Kardashian and her family, because she addressed the rumors
on Monday and wrote on Instagram. I rarely address rumors
or conspiracies regarding myself or my family, but this is
(23:53):
about my child and it feels wrong to let anyone
think for a second that these lives are remotely true.
They are not. Mason does not have a child. These
accounts that pretend to be him are definitely not.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
They are fake.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
My son really values his privacy, and I'm asking all
media to please be respectful. He is a kid with
feelings and a beautiful life ahead of him. Please stop
spreading false narratives and spinning lies. And to all the
other people making videos about my kids, who by the way,
are miners, please stop and leave them alone. This whole
tobacle reminds me a lot of the Cape Middleton saga
(24:26):
on TikTok, where all those videos started spreading and then
everyone started buying into them. I think another reason why
so many people were quick to believe these rumors is
because Mason has been known to go rogue on Instagram before,
because back in twenty twenty, he made up an Instagram
live and started answering fan questions, and one of the
questions he answered was was his auntie Kylie back with
(24:48):
Travis Scott and he said, no, they're not back together.
It does disturb me, though, that these type of rumors
can spread like wildfire on TikTok and people just start
to believe them as fat. I mean the fact that
a lot of mainstream media were printing these accusations as well,
purely because someone's jumped on TikTok and said, oh yeah,
this must be true, like someone's set of a fake
(25:09):
account for a fifteen year old.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Where is the proof?
Speaker 1 (25:12):
I think it says a lot about journalism ethics as well,
because this is a minor. At the end of the day,
it doesn't matter if it's a celebrities child or not.
They're posting untrue allegations as if facts. Well, a lot
of people have said they think it's ridiculous that Courtney's
come out asking for privacy when she plasters her children
on her social media channel and also on a TV show,
so she plasters them all over social media. I think
(25:34):
sharing a photo of your child isn't plastering. They mean
that they've been their whole lives, have been on TV
on the poast. Doesn't it mean that people can make
up vicious rumors about your fifteen year old fathering a child.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Yeah? I have this theory with pregnancy.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
After a lengthy fertility journey, Georgie Stevenson has revealed she's
pregnant with her second child. While most followers were elated
by the exciting news, the entrepreneur was forced to defend
her conception timeline. Now, so before we get into it,
can you tell us more about Georgie's fertility journey. Yeah,
She's always been very open with her followers about her
struggles to conceive, and before she gave birth to her daughter, Ivy,
(26:15):
Georgie was actually told that she was infertile due to
thyroid complications, but she ended up falling pregnant after eight
months of trying to conceive. Now, very sadly, she did
suffer a miscarriage, but then went on to have Ivy
in late twenty twenty one. After going through IUI yeah.
And at the end of last year, Georgie also revealed
that she and her husband Tim had been trying for
(26:36):
a baby since the beginning of the year, but were
having trouble. In a candid reel, she shared a compilation
of diary entries she'd filmed throughout the year, where she
spoke about the toll the journey was taking on her
mental health. In the Captain of the Real, Georgie confessed
she was feeling exhausted and defeated.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Super disappointing. I also feel into the bruiser. I also
feel like quite sick. My doctor said, like never in
his career just happened to a patient and he just
feels so devastated for us.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Now, Georgie actually wasn't going to share that real until
she fell pregnant, but thought, well, it's going to help
other people going through a similar thing. I'll be vulnerable
and I will share it whilst I'm going through the journey.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
And I think that was a really.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Good decision by Georgie because it would have helped so
many people feel less alone. Now, if we fast forward
three months, Georgie announced the exciting news that she is
pregnant with her second child. The couple shared a gorgeous
photo shoot and also a video showing their reactions to
the positive pregnancy test. I was so happy for them
when this post popped up. It was a really special moment,
(27:49):
particularly knowing just what they'd been through and how special
it was for them. And while most of Georgie's followers
were ecstatic for her, one follower wrote, wait, so when
you post in December crying in your car that you
weren't pregnant, you actually were pregnant, whilst others chimed in
saying she must have been lying. My god, I just
don't know what would bring you to write something like
(28:10):
that on somebody's pregnancy announcement. And I was really happy
because Georgie came online and she shut down the allegations
straight away.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
So she shared a.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Screenshot of the comment to her Instagram story and wrote,
also to those trying to catch me out for posting
our infertility journey and accusing me of lying or whatever, Guys,
please start being obsessed with your own life, not mine.
But in all seriousness, here are the receipts because you
seemed really worried about it. So she went on to
share the receipts, which were screenshots of the dates the
(28:39):
content was taken, and it turns out that the real
she shared about her fertility journey was uploaded on the
third of December, while she took the pregnancy test on
the eleventh of December. So she went on to write, like,
I get it. What a crazy miracle that I finally
posted about our infertility after twelve months then got pregnant
that month. Talk about the energy of divine timing, surrender,
(29:02):
and detachment. I also understand that maybe triggering if you're
going through your own stuff, but surely you can just
be happy for a family finally getting their miracle baby.
She then wanted to say that she understands that people
are curious and she will share more on her podcast
and YouTube about their journey and offered people to DM
her if they had any questions. It is really sad
(29:22):
because often when influencers put up their pregnancy announcements, a
lot of people do get triggered who are going through
these fertility journeys, and you can see why people lash out,
But in this instance, it just seems really unfair because
all of her followers knew she had struggled previously.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
To conceive it.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Seems like a bit of misplaced digression in some instances,
And I just think that we really need to encourage
people to speak openly about their fertility struggles. And it's
really concerning to me that people are attacking a woman
over being vulnerable about her fertility journey.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Like trying to catch her out.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Yeah, Like, why are we trying to catch someone out?
I mean, she was vulnerable enough to open up about
it and on numerous occasions and share about her miscarriage
and share about her struggles. And then we say, oh,
hold in a second, you were lying to us the
whole time, even if she did post when she knew
that she was pregnant, which isn't the case.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Who fucking cares well.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
It's also like, can we just give her the benefit
of the doubt, because, I mean, the accusation seems to
be that she's using this her infertility struggles to get
views or lives. Dog Stevenson doesn't need to do that.
That's not really what her content's about any more. Her
content is more about business and also about her courses
and that kind of thing. She doesn't need that content
(30:38):
to do well. I just think people need to stop
being dickheads online, like there should just be a no
dickhead rule in the comment section, which I suppose there
probably wouldn't be much engagement online anymore. But I think
that is all we have time for today. Thank you
so much for joining us for this episode. If you
have enjoyed it, could you please make sure you are
subscribed on Apple Podcasts and also Spotify. This episode was
recorded on the traditional land of the Guana people of
(31:00):
the Adelaide Plains.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
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