TikToker Kat Clark has revealed she’s launching a skincare brand in an unorthodox way.
Millie Ford’s recent cameo on Home and Away has signalled a big career move.
The popular TikToker best known for her comedy impressions of everyday Australians says she’s now pursuing her childhood dream of being an actor.
And we need to talk about Sarah’s Day new activewear collection with White Fox Boutique
This time around she has riled people up with a tone deaf whinge following the activewear shoot.
Celebrity blogger, turned police officer, Beau Lamarre-Condon, has been charged with the shocking murder of Channel Ten presenter Jesse Baird and his partner Luke Davies. It’s believed the NSW police officer had been stalking his ex-boyfriend Jesse, following the break up. The tragedy has sent shock waves through the LGBTQ community, with many calling for police not to march in this year’s Mardi Gras.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Coming up on today's show, Sarah's Day's Tough Day on set,
Cat Clark is accused of manipulating people to buy her
new skincare brand and the horrific double murder that's left
the Australian entertainment world in shock. Hello and welcome to Outspoken.
It's your dose of the hottest influencer and popcocture news
twice a week. I'm Sophie tau But and we need
(00:26):
to talk about Sarah's Day's new active wear collection with
White Fox Boutique. This time around, she has riled people
up with a tone deaf winge following the active wear
shoe Kate.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
What exactly has happened?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Well, it seems like every time she's ready to launch
a new active wear collection, something like this happens. So
I do think there's a little bit of strategy involved.
So last week, Sarah spent two days shooting her new
thirty seven piece active wear collection at an old mansion
in Sydney. Now, the first day got rained out while
the second day was really hot. So the day after
(01:00):
the shoot, Sarah asked her Instagram audience for some honest
feedback regarding her active wear promotion. So she explained that
she'd filmed behind the scenes vlog at the photo shoot,
however it wouldn't be ready until the day the collection
went on sale. Now, she said that she would normally
film a try on hole, but was running out of
time to do it. Not to mention she had just
(01:21):
done too ten hour shoot days where she had to
get changed every fifteen minutes. She explained that both days
her body had been wet from either rain or sweat,
so it wasn't pleasant getting dressed and then undressed. Let's
throw to more of what she said.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Rolling tights up wet legs every fifteen minutes, That is
honestly the worst part of a shoot. Like I love
the active wear campaign days. They're very fun and creative,
but they are a lot of work. And I feel like,
prior to like being involved in this kind of like
industry and like working on photoshoots, if I heard someone
say a photoshoot was hard work, I'd be like, shut up,
(01:58):
you have no idea, look get it. Compared to like
laborist jobs like demolishing house or like landscaping, an active
whar shoot day is like nothing. But I'm just saying
I've had many different jobs before I had three jobs
when I was at Union trying to save up for
a car. Like I've always been a hard worker, and
I'm just gonna say, shoot, days they are hard work.
Like five am. We got home at like nine yesterday
(02:20):
after getting whatever.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
It was a big day now.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
She went on to say that by the end of
the second day, she had tried on the thirty seven
piece active Work collection four times. He is more of
her rant.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
There's a lot about fit changes and up wet skin.
I was getting changed every fifteen minutes, and my blood
was boiling. I was raging. I was so over it.
And then Kurt being Kurt, he would just be like, oh,
can you chop that like black outfit on again? I
just want to get another photo. I was like, I
am going to explode. I'm going to explode. I have
(02:52):
just been getting changed for the last twenty hours every fifteen.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
Minutes on my wet, sweaty skin.
Speaker 6 (02:58):
But I cannot think of anything worse then tomorrow on
the weekend, or like you'll have to be the weekend
because we're going away to try on all thirty seven
pieces again on a sweaty susday.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
You deserve it. You deserve it, and I'll probably feel
better tomorrow. Maybe I just need like twenty four hours
break from trying things on What's a lot.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
As soon as I saw this, I immediately scream recorded
it and posted it on Outspoken's Instagram account and TikTok
because I just could not believe it and I needed
reassurance that everyone else thought it was ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Sophie and I have been on shoots like this with
our PR company and it is exhausting. Yet when I
saw this, I thought, are you living in the real world?
Do you know how many of your followers would be
working as nurses or doctors or teachers and had just
absolutely run off.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Their feet all day.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
That was the general consensus in the comment that they
were saying, oh, well, she is very welcome to come
and do their jobs for a day, a regular day
as well, because the fact that she was complaining that
it was a ten hour shoot back to back, which
I do have question marks around because the first shoot
day actually got rained out, so I don't think it
was a ten hour day.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Look, I'm sure it was tiring, but the embarrassing thing
here is that day was an anomaly. She isn't doing
this every week. She's only doing it when she's bringing
out a new line which is set to make her
hundreds of thousands of dollars. I'm sure all of us
would spend that ten hour a day getting dressed and
undressed for that sort of money. She seemed really shitty
at Kerr as well.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
I wonder if he copped on set.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Well.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
I felt sorry for him in a sense because she's
complaining that she's having to get undressed and then dressed again.
But what about him who's having to actually shoot the
whole thing like I'm sure that would be pretty diary.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
The other thing is that with these sort of shoots,
the talent get.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Treated like gods.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
Like the shoots we've been on, Aimy.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
They sit in here and make up for a couple
of hours. People would be bringing you coffees. I'm sure
that she had a nice shady spot. I did notice
that there was a random white horse was used in
this promotion, and I was very worried about it because
at one stage it was standing in the glaring heat.
In another Instagram story, I saw that this woman was
(05:08):
trying to you know, the person who was there looking
after the horse was trying to stand under some sort.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Of shade with it.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
I think that that was the real hero there, the
poor horse.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Maybe they're looking for a rebrand White Horse boutique as
at a White Fox.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
I wonder if she was just trying to get out.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Of having to film a YouTube hole.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Well, she's definitely well, she did put a pole up
asking and it was unanimous that she.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
Should actually shoot it.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
What I find weird is, and I always have found
this weird with Sarah's days Act to Wear campaigns, that
her and Kurt always put all this effort with coming
up with this very over the top campaign. But I
genuinely feel like the stuff sells out based on her
YouTube hole, and that's why this is such an important
piece of content. You would think you would film that first.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
What also never makes sense to me in these photo
shoots is I think, because she's a personality, she'd be
better off just having some fun with her poses. I
think she seems to take it too seriously. I mean,
she's got all the hair and the makeup, She's gone.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
And got hair extensions for it.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
People are so used to seeing her fresh faced where
the hair pulled up, smiling.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
In most campaigns like this, Sarah probably would have been
joined by some additional models who would have taken the
stress off her having to get changed so many times.
I wonder why they didn't go down that route if
it's such a big collection. Well, they haven't most recently.
I think because there has been so much politics around
which models she selects and whether they fit certain criteria.
They've decided to just get rid of the models completely
(06:29):
because in her last Active Where campaign it was also
just her. Yeah, I mean, I suppose it's cheaper just
using Sarah. On Monday, she did update her followers to
share that she was in fact filming the hole, but
she said she wouldn't be trying on every color of
the collection.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
No, it's not really a great advertisement for the line either,
especially because she was saying she was getting all sweaty
and gross.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
It makes me think that they're not comfortable. Yeah, it's
so uncomfortable to get in and.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Out of it.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I wonder how New Balance feels about the name of
the collection, because it's called House of Balance. See I
actually laugh because their production company is called House of Groms,
and it's almost like they couldn't come up with another name.
And Sarah has been talking about finding this balance between
motherhood and her career. So I just kind of thought
it was a little bit cringe.
Speaker 7 (07:14):
I spent most of the night last night balling my
whies out. I'm going to start crying again.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
TikToker Cat Clark has revealed she's launching a skincare brand
in an unorthodox way. So, before we get into it,
who is Cat Clark? Well? Kat has over five point
nine million followers on TikTok and was crowned Australian TikTok
Creator of the.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Year in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
So she started attracting a following after she went viral
for looking like her then teenage daughter's twin sister. So
that was back in June twenty twenty one. I can
see how people would have made that mistake because Kat
actually gave birth to her first daughter, Letitia, on her
seventeenth birthday.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
They really do look the same.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Kat is now thirty seven and she documents her life
with her two daughters, so she also has a twelve
year old daughter, now, Kate, how did she announce her
skincare brand?
Speaker 3 (08:02):
So over the last couple of months, Kat has been
dropping clues about her new business venture that she's embarking
on with her two daughters. Last Tuesday, she revealed that
her new business would be called Calade, which is the
first initials of her and her two daughter's names.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
I always found it funny when people come up with
names like that. It's almost as though they just can't
think of anything else, which, you know how hard it
is to copyright a name.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
That's probably why.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Well, she did say that she would.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Cry if people laughed at the name, because she admitted
that she told one of her friends the name and
they thought it was strange, and that everyone has apparently
been pronouncing it wrong, so probably not a good indicator
that it's a great brand name.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
I heard a podcast with the founder of Drunk Elephants
saying that all of her friends don't call it drunk Elephant.
That's a terrible name, and she is succeeded.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Yeah, well, I suppose everything sounds weird when you first
hear it. Now. The following day, Cats shed another TikTok,
this time confirming that her new business was a skincare brand. However,
rather than announcing the brand in real time, she instead
uploaded an old video diary that she'd filmed five months
earlier crying at the news that Anna Paul had just
(09:06):
launched her skincare brand. Poorly, Let's throw to what Kat said.
Speaker 7 (09:12):
Three months before we announced, and Anna has just announced
that she's also launching a skincare company. I spent most
of the night last night balling my eyes out. I'm
gonna start crying again. And it's amazing, obviously, And I
just feel like I failed without even having the start.
(09:36):
I know that sounds so stupid, That's how I'm feeling.
I'm feeling very defeated, and I'm really scared. This is
so unbelievably scary doing this already. Oh God, I feel
so stupid. I can't even tell you guys in real
time because I'm not announcing until a before we go live.
(10:02):
Jonathan's obviously being like a very big support and telling
me everything's going to be okay. Starting a business is
not for the week. We haven't even launched yet, Lord
help me, will we actually launch?
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Cat finished up the video by announcing that her brand
would launch on the twenty six of February. Now that
video has clocked up three point seven million views and
at the time of recording, has attracted a lot of
negative comments, so people have accused Kat of being manipulative, embarrassing,
and fake crying. The top comment said, imagine a grown woman,
(10:35):
a supposed CEO of a company, making a crying video
because of other people's businesses? What is happening with society now?
That comment got over two three hundred likes. Anna Paul
actually chimed in on the video, writing no, never feel
like this. I'm so happy for you, which got thirty
four thousand likes.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Now.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Cat clapped back at the negative comments, saying.
Speaker 8 (10:58):
This, imagine investing all your money, remortgaging your house, your
husband has just quitted his job, and you are going
one hundred percent all in on your small business idea.
Just imagine for a second that you took out that
much money to invest in something, and then a month
later someone has the same idea as you.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
She then went on to say that she recorded the
video to help other small business owners out there so
they didn't feel alone. She also said she wanted to
share her journey.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
It almost seems like she's trying to use Anna Pol's
name just to get attention for the brand because the
skincare industry is so oversaturated anyway, I don't think the
fact that another TikToker has released a skincare brand really
affects you that much. Considering I think her audience would
be quite different. I didn't agree that she's using Anna
(11:50):
Poul's name though, because she's got nearly six million of
her own TikTok followers about.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
She needs to.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
It's a way to generate discussion online because if she hadn't,
it would be like a bit ho hum or. Another
TikTok has released a skincare brand, and I'm sure people
would have drawn comparisons to it without her even saying anything.
So if I tend to agree with you, I really
rolled my eyes when she was saying that someone else's
had the same idea as her. It's like, it's a
completely saturated market with celebrities and influencers.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
You know, launching your skincare.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Brand is nowhere close to a unique idea anymore.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Now. In a follow up video, Kat opened up about
her fears of starting a new business, and she said
that she has actually put her entire life savings into it.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
She also seemed quite surprised when she shared some of
the revelations that she's learnt along the way, so she
said that she was surprised that she had to hire
a chemist to create the formula, get a website, and
have to pay for a barcode. She also seems surprised
when she shared some revelations that she'd learnt along the way,
and these were probably things I would have kept to myself.
(12:52):
So she said she was surprised that they had to
hire a chemist to create the formula of the product,
and to me, that would be something quite obvious that
you would have to do, and it just made it
seem very transactional that they just want to slap their
name on a product and get it out there.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Well, I reckon she was secretly more annoyed about the
anna Pol deal because she discovered that anna Pol had
the backing of a huge PR company like Sam Maignan
and a huge business mind like him.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Well that is a good point, because Kat has shared
that she is operating from her townhouse and they're hoping
after the launch to be able to afford a warehouse.
But at the moment, their SHD is literally stacked with
all of these boxes. It seems like they have so
many boxes inside the house and her family are the
production team, so they're all creating the boxes and putting
product in. So she has really gone with this marketing
(13:42):
strategy to push how hard it is on them, and
she is hoping that that creates some sales.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
It does irk me though, when influencers refer to their
businesses as small business like on an operations front, obviously
this does sound like a small business. But from the
other perspective, she has an inbuilt audience of over five
million people. No other startup small businesses are lucky enough
to have an inbuilt audience like that. Yeah, it's definitely
(14:09):
not your typical startup business. Let's wrote to more of
what she said in this other TikTok video.
Speaker 8 (14:16):
And then there's that other fear of like what if
it doesn't sell out?
Speaker 7 (14:19):
What if we sell like a hundred and then we're
stuck with the rest of the products in our house.
That's embarrassing.
Speaker 8 (14:26):
Embarrassing because we didn't sell anything, but also very embarrassing
because I've just poured my entire life savings into this.
Speaker 7 (14:35):
And we'll probably go broke. I really hope I'm making
the right decision.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Again, this is not a reflective fear of a small business,
because no small business would dream of selling out their
first product in the first drop. So as much as
she is trying to create this narrative of being a
small business who needs her.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Followers help, it's quite the opposite here.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Do we think that her key marketing strategy is to
be vulnerable and give sort of the backside of what's
going on in the background of this startup business.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
It's the total.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Opposite of Anna Poul's because can you imagine Anna paul
came out and was like, Oh.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
No, one's going to buy my stuff.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Hers seems the branding, the pr behind it all seems
super professional in comparison in.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Terms of products, people are already drawing comparisons to Paulie.
So when Kat unveiled her range, she was wearing a
branded headband almost identical to Paulie's one, And just like Anna,
Kat is also launching four products initially, So her products
are a cleanser and face moisturizer just like Anna's, plus
a face oil and body moisturizer, and each product is
(15:37):
packaged in a different pastel package. So Anna's products each
were in a different colored container as well. So it
just seems like such a copy. I'm not saying it is,
but it's just not good timing for this launch.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
That.
Speaker 8 (15:55):
I'm sorry, Why not right now? Please?
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Millie Ford's recent cam on Home and Away has signaled
a big career move. The popular TikToker, best known for
her comedy impressions of everyday Australians, says she's now pursuing
her childhood dream of being an actor. Now she's got
herself an acting agent and creative representation and is hoping
to get more comedy roles. Did you guys see her
(16:19):
on Home and Away?
Speaker 1 (16:20):
I didn't see it on Home and Away, but I
did see her on social media because Milly was tagged
as a collaborator on the post, which was very clever
and I do wonder if that's why Milly was granted
this role, because it got so much coverage on TikTok
and on Instagram. When I first saw this, I assume
that she was actually going to become a cast member. However,
it was a cameo and that left a lot of
(16:40):
people disappointed.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
I'm guessing that.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Producers have asked her to perform one of her TikTok personas,
because that's what it felt like when I saw this.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
It really did feel like that she was playing an
influencer called Montana, so in the scene, she was forced
to do community service and was coming up with a
whole bunch of excuses to.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
Get out of it. Let's throw to some of it.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
I want to do for a break, yet I need
to say hydrated. There are plenty of breaks built into
your hour.
Speaker 7 (17:05):
I know the thing is with me.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
I need to look after myself.
Speaker 8 (17:10):
Let me show you my social I'm.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Not not interested in your socials.
Speaker 8 (17:13):
So let's chat. We're waiting.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
I will okay, just give me five minutes. I'm not
going to ask you again.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
So easy for you.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
You got to just stand there.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Well, I'm getting assaulted by asparagus fans.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Why don't you give it a try?
Speaker 4 (17:26):
No, wait, hang on, I got a rush.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Wait genuinely, I have a rush?
Speaker 7 (17:33):
Right that?
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Can younot see that?
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Right?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Genuinely? It really hurts.
Speaker 8 (17:35):
I think I don't see anything.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
If you sit down, I'm not going to better sign
you off for hours.
Speaker 7 (17:41):
That's not fair.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
You can't do that. Justin tell us she can't do that.
What's it going to be? What's it going to be?
Speaker 7 (17:47):
So much?
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Now a lot of people were saying that this scene
felt like it was ripped straight from Shit's Creek. I
know exactly which scene you're referring to, and it does
seem like this has been stolen.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
Yeah, well I do. I think that they were.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Really trying to get her to put on one of
her personas, because she also recently appeared on the TV
series Bump, and she played a school librarian, which is
one of her reoccurring characters. She also revealed she's dropping
a new single in two weeks time. So a couple
of weeks back, she joked that she wanted to make
the song of the Summer and started coming up with
tunes on Garage Band. Now, I assumed it was a joke. However,
(18:24):
late last week, following her cameo on Home and Away,
she confirmed she's also going to double in music. Let's
throw it to a bit of a song.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
I am so confused by this. Is this song actually
airing on Home and Away? No, it's got nothing to
do with it. It just so happens that she announced
the song and Home and Away appearance the same way.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Well, it makes sense because she got a lot of
attention over the Home and Away cameo and then there's
a lot of chatter around what her next career move is.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
She has spoken on.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Her podcast about her love of singing, but it was
more of a piss takee, like she was saying, oh,
you know when you sing into your phone and you
want to hear if you're any good. She has to
do that, though, because her whole personal brand is built
around being someone who is funny and it takes a
piss out of people, so she can't be seen to
be taking herself too seriously, even though she clearly wants
(19:30):
to explore the avenue of acting and singing seriously. I
wonder if she finds it frustrating because there's so many
hoops she's got to jump through in order for people
not to get tall poppy syndrome with her and think
that she's a sellout. I did find it interesting listening
to her speak on Clare Stevens's podcast about how she's
always dreamt of being an influencer, and if anything, it
seems sort of in contradiction to what she's about, because
(19:52):
she seems to kind of poke fun at people who
are like that. I am interested to see how her
single goes and if people's perceptions of her begin to
change before we get into the next topic. We want
to issue a trigger warning it may be upsetting for
some listeners. We do touch on issues surrounding domestic violence
and murder. Celebrity blogger turned police officer bo Lamar Condon
(20:15):
has been charged with the shocking murder of Channel ten
presenter Jesse bad and his partner Luke Davies. It's believed
the new South Wales police officer had been stalking his
ex boyfriend Jesse following the breakup.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Now the tragedy has sent shock.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Waves through the LGBTQ community, with many calling for police
officers not to march in this year's Mardi Gras. Now, Sophie,
this has been absolutely heart wrenching to watch. I just
haven't been able to stop thinking about this story. When
you take a look at both men's Instagram accounts, it's
clear that they were living out their dreams.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Both men were only in their twenties.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Luke was jetting all over the world with his job
as a flight attendant and Jesse was just establishing himself
as a really talented TV presenter at Channel ten and
also as a football umpire. They had so much life
to live and they've only just started their relationship in January,
so Luke first posted about their relationship on the fifth
of February, sharing a photo of him and Jesse in
(21:10):
front of a Palm Beach lighthouse. Jesse then confirmed their
relationship two days later, posting photos of the couple wine
tasting and playing tennis at the Hunter Valley Now. A
few days later, the couple attended Pink Sydney concert together,
and Jesse didn't share those photos until last Sunday, which
is the last day he and Luke were seen by
their friends leaving the Bresford Hotel. They had spent the
(21:33):
night partying at a packed nightclub which held a Mardy
Grant night, before heading back to Jesse's home in Paddington. Now.
Jesse and Luke have not been seen since, with friends
and family unable to contact them.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Now.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Suspicions were raised on Wednesday when blooded clothing belonging to
the couple was found in a skip bin near a
club in Sydney's South. As well as the close, police
found credit cards, a wallet and a watch worth eight
thousand dollars now. It led police to search Jesse's share
house in Paddington, where a significant amount of blood was
discovered it appeared someone had attempted to clean it up.
(22:06):
Furniture had also been broken. Neighbors did tell police that
they heard shouting at a verbal argument, but didn't think
it was worth reporting. Now police launched a public man
hunt for both men, saying they held grave concerns for
them now.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
By late Thursday afternoon, questions began to be asked about
former connections with police, discovering Jesse previously dated Constable Beau
Lamark Condon. Now Bo's name may sound familiar to you
because before joining the police force, he ran a now
defunct celebrity news site called The Australian Reporter.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
It's crazy because I actually first heard of this story
on the Daily Mail and they plasted his face next
to Kim Kardashian and Taylor Swift and I actually did
recognize him yet.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Well, he goes by the pseudonym Bo London, and he
created a social media account called That's the Tea where
he would share these photos and also interviews with celebrities.
He has been labeled Australia's biggest fan, so he has
a really long history of celebrity chasing and he did
manage to interview a number of a list celebrities and
somehow managed to snag himself a spot at the Golden Globes.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
What was really creepy was that the week of the
alleged murders, he snapped a photo of himself with Courtney
Karashian and Travis Barker while they were in Sydney. It
just blows my mind that this person could have been
allegedly plotting these murders, but also at the top of
their priority list is getting a fan photo with a Kutashi.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
I just found it so wrong that the media we're
using photos of him with, say Taylor Swift, and also
the photo with Travis and Courtney as main pictures. It
was kind of almost connecting those celebrities to this horrific crime.
Everyone has been going absolutely crazy over Taylor Swift, so
I can see why they did use that very old photo,
and I do think it paints a bit of a
(23:50):
picture because more recently the news has been reporting that
he allegedly stalked his.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Ex partner, so kind of paints a picture that he
is this celebrity chaser that is hunting people down.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
And the fact that Jesse used to work on Studio teen.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Yeah, well, Jesse is the one who's said to have
ended this relationship, and Bo did not take it well,
and Jesse told friends that he was worried he was
being stalked by Bo. So his friends have since told
investigators that Jesse said he saw a shadowy figure at
the end of his bed late at night in recent months,
but when he woke up, the person left, and he
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obviously didn't go to police about this.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
It is just so scary.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
And awful to hear these details come out, because this
country needs to take domestic violence a lot more seriously.
The fact that this guy was stalking him, he's a
police officer, he has used a police weapon allegedly to
murder two innocent civilians.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
It just makes me feel sick.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Well, there were even more red flags about this guy
because he did find himself at the center of an
internal investigation in twenty twenty when he was filmed tasering
an Indigenous man in the face. Now he was cleared
of any wrongdoing, I have to say, But interestingly, Bo
follows in the footsteps of his mother, Colleen, who is
(25:09):
high up at the New South Wales Police Force. Interesting
and Bo's sister also held a position in the police
radio unit, but was dismissed over her refusal to take
the COVID nineteen vaccine a number of years ago. So now,
Bo was reportedly on sick leave the week of the
alleged murders and he was not responding to any phone calls,
so with detectives unable to locate him, they started a
(25:31):
fresh man hunt. Now by the morning, Bow turned his
phone back on and handed himself into detectives where he
was arrested. So he has been charged with two counts
of murder. Now as it stands, he has not told
the police where the two bodies are. Now.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
As I touched on earlier, it is alleged that Bo
used his police handgun. So gun casing at the scene
match Bow's police issued handgun. On Tuesday morning, he called
in sick to work, but he did return his police
firearm to a suburban police station. It's then alleged that
he hired a white fan to transport and dispose.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Of the bodies.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
If this is true, this is one of the most
disgusting abuses of power I have ever seen. The fact
that he felt comfortable to allegedly use his own handgun
to carry out this crime, but then also to go
and return it to the police station the next day
as though nothing had happened. I just feel so sorry
for Jesse's Channel ten colleagues who've had to report on
this case. It has been interesting to see how they
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have handled it.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
And they've done it with such grace.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
They've even had parts of their stories where they've interviewed colleagues,
which has just been so touching.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Yeah. Well, Jesse's colleague, Hugh Rimington wrote on social media,
rest in peace, my beloved young colleague Jesse happy with
a new man and that it is being alleged was
the problem. Condolences also to the family and friends of
Luke Davies. Many tears tonight now. Another friend shared a
tribute to Jesse and ended with jealousy shouldn't end like
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this will.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Prominent LGBTQ organizations have said that this tragedy highlights the
issue of domestic violence in the gay community.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
It has been interesting to see the reporting around this
because when this story first broke, I saw language used like.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
The murder of his lover yea and slain. It was
just so disrespectful to the situation because if this had
been a heterosexual relationship, I think the headline would have
been very different, but to denigrate that as these lovers,
I just did not.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
Like that at all.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
The murders also do come on the eve of the
Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras, and many people in
the community are saying that they don't think police should
march in this year's parade, and it is a bad look.
And I think this also comes off the back of
news organizations posting past photos of Bo actually marching in
the parade in his police uniform, and the community clearly
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isn't feeling protected. They don't feel like enough is being done,
multiple police sources tell news outlets. So they're frustrated by
the investigation, secrecy and handling of the case.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Well I can see why, considering that Bo's mother is
high up in the New South Wales Police Force.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
On seven News they touched on the fact that they.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Waited twenty four hours to actually get this story out
there to the media, when in other domestic violence cases
it's been reported immediately, So they were obviously trying to
work out how best to reveal that the number one
suspect is a police officer. And it's not a good
look because I think there's a lot of question marks
over if this guy did this, how did he actually
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pass the site test to get into the police Well,
there are a lot of question marks around who else
knew about this, what was going on. He's suddenly on
leave when all of this is happening, He's taken leave
and then he is allegedly going in a white van
and getting the bodies.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
Like so many questions.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
His mother's house was rated when they couldn't find him,
and that would have probably been quite awkward.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
What I think the most disturbing thing to come out
recently is the fact that Jesse's friends have come out
Sophie as you said earlier, and said he was concerned
about Bo's behavior and thinks that he was stalking him. So,
while no official complaint had been made to authorities, Detective
Superintendent Daniel Dougherty said worrying behavior from Bo had come
to lights since the couple disappeared, and stalking is a
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very common tactic used by domestic abuses. It is frequently
present in the lead up to domestic violence and related murders,
so it would be interesting to know when this was
flagged to police.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
And it's really sad because I think some people don't
come forward and make a complaint because they think that
maybe it sounds silly, maybe people are overthinking it.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Well, particularly when it's someone that is in the police
force it's allegedly doing it as well. And there's some
start I saw last night in this Netflix Docko on stalking.
I think at zero point zero one percent of offenders
who are actually found guilty of stalking.
Speaker 5 (29:50):
Go to prison.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Well, particularly in this situation where it's a police officer,
as you touched on Kate, who's allegedly doing it and
they have family members who are high up in the
police force. I think that is where we will leave
you today. Thank you so much for joining us for
today's episode. If you have enjoyed it, could you please
make sure you are subscribed on Apple Podcasts and also Spotify.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
And I just want to add we do send all
of our love and our hearts go out to Jesse
and Luke's families who are dealing with this absolute tragedy
at the moment. This podcast was recorded on the traditional
land of the Ghana people of the Adelaide Plains. We
pay respect to elders past and present
Coming up on today's show, Sarah's Day's Tough Day on set,
Cat Clark is accused of manipulating people to buy her
new skincare brand and the horrific double murder that's left
the Australian entertainment world in shock. Hello and welcome to Outspoken.
It's your dose of the hottest influencer and popcocture news
twice a week. I'm Sophie tau But and we need
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to talk about Sarah's Day's new active wear collection with
White Fox Boutique. This time around, she has riled people
up with a tone deaf winge following the active wear
shoe Kate.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
What exactly has happened?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Well, it seems like every time she's ready to launch
a new active wear collection, something like this happens. So
I do think there's a little bit of strategy involved.
So last week, Sarah spent two days shooting her new
thirty seven piece active wear collection at an old mansion
in Sydney. Now, the first day got rained out while
the second day was really hot. So the day after
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the shoot, Sarah asked her Instagram audience for some honest
feedback regarding her active wear promotion. So she explained that
she'd filmed behind the scenes vlog at the photo shoot,
however it wouldn't be ready until the day the collection
went on sale. Now, she said that she would normally
film a try on hole, but was running out of
time to do it. Not to mention she had just
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done too ten hour shoot days where she had to
get changed every fifteen minutes. She explained that both days
her body had been wet from either rain or sweat,
so it wasn't pleasant getting dressed and then undressed. Let's
throw to more of what she said.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Rolling tights up wet legs every fifteen minutes, That is
honestly the worst part of a shoot. Like I love
the active wear campaign days. They're very fun and creative,
but they are a lot of work. And I feel like,
prior to like being involved in this kind of like
industry and like working on photoshoots, if I heard someone
say a photoshoot was hard work, I'd be like, shut up,
(01:58):
you have no idea, look get it. Compared to like
laborist jobs like demolishing house or like landscaping, an active
whar shoot day is like nothing. But I'm just saying
I've had many different jobs before I had three jobs
when I was at Union trying to save up for
a car. Like I've always been a hard worker, and
I'm just gonna say, shoot, days they are hard work.
Like five am. We got home at like nine yesterday
(02:20):
after getting whatever.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
It was a big day now.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
She went on to say that by the end of
the second day, she had tried on the thirty seven
piece active Work collection four times. He is more of
her rant.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
There's a lot about fit changes and up wet skin.
I was getting changed every fifteen minutes, and my blood
was boiling. I was raging. I was so over it.
And then Kurt being Kurt, he would just be like, oh,
can you chop that like black outfit on again? I
just want to get another photo. I was like, I
am going to explode. I'm going to explode. I have
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just been getting changed for the last twenty hours every fifteen.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
Minutes on my wet, sweaty skin.
Speaker 6 (02:58):
But I cannot think of anything worse then tomorrow on
the weekend, or like you'll have to be the weekend
because we're going away to try on all thirty seven
pieces again on a sweaty susday.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
You deserve it. You deserve it, and I'll probably feel
better tomorrow. Maybe I just need like twenty four hours
break from trying things on What's a lot.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
As soon as I saw this, I immediately scream recorded
it and posted it on Outspoken's Instagram account and TikTok
because I just could not believe it and I needed
reassurance that everyone else thought it was ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Sophie and I have been on shoots like this with
our PR company and it is exhausting. Yet when I
saw this, I thought, are you living in the real world?
Do you know how many of your followers would be
working as nurses or doctors or teachers and had just
absolutely run off.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Their feet all day.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
That was the general consensus in the comment that they
were saying, oh, well, she is very welcome to come
and do their jobs for a day, a regular day
as well, because the fact that she was complaining that
it was a ten hour shoot back to back, which
I do have question marks around because the first shoot
day actually got rained out, so I don't think it
was a ten hour day.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Look, I'm sure it was tiring, but the embarrassing thing
here is that day was an anomaly. She isn't doing
this every week. She's only doing it when she's bringing
out a new line which is set to make her
hundreds of thousands of dollars. I'm sure all of us
would spend that ten hour a day getting dressed and
undressed for that sort of money. She seemed really shitty
at Kerr as well.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
I wonder if he copped on set.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Well.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
I felt sorry for him in a sense because she's
complaining that she's having to get undressed and then dressed again.
But what about him who's having to actually shoot the
whole thing like I'm sure that would be pretty diary.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
The other thing is that with these sort of shoots,
the talent get.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Treated like gods.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
Like the shoots we've been on, Aimy.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
They sit in here and make up for a couple
of hours. People would be bringing you coffees. I'm sure
that she had a nice shady spot. I did notice
that there was a random white horse was used in
this promotion, and I was very worried about it because
at one stage it was standing in the glaring heat.
In another Instagram story, I saw that this woman was
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trying to you know, the person who was there looking
after the horse was trying to stand under some sort.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Of shade with it.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
I think that that was the real hero there, the
poor horse.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Maybe they're looking for a rebrand White Horse boutique as
at a White Fox.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
I wonder if she was just trying to get out.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Of having to film a YouTube hole.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Well, she's definitely well, she did put a pole up
asking and it was unanimous that she.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
Should actually shoot it.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
What I find weird is, and I always have found
this weird with Sarah's days Act to Wear campaigns, that
her and Kurt always put all this effort with coming
up with this very over the top campaign. But I
genuinely feel like the stuff sells out based on her
YouTube hole, and that's why this is such an important
piece of content. You would think you would film that first.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
What also never makes sense to me in these photo
shoots is I think, because she's a personality, she'd be
better off just having some fun with her poses. I
think she seems to take it too seriously. I mean,
she's got all the hair and the makeup, She's gone.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
And got hair extensions for it.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
People are so used to seeing her fresh faced where
the hair pulled up, smiling.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
In most campaigns like this, Sarah probably would have been
joined by some additional models who would have taken the
stress off her having to get changed so many times.
I wonder why they didn't go down that route if
it's such a big collection. Well, they haven't most recently.
I think because there has been so much politics around
which models she selects and whether they fit certain criteria.
They've decided to just get rid of the models completely
(06:29):
because in her last Active Where campaign it was also
just her. Yeah, I mean, I suppose it's cheaper just
using Sarah. On Monday, she did update her followers to
share that she was in fact filming the hole, but
she said she wouldn't be trying on every color of
the collection.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
No, it's not really a great advertisement for the line either,
especially because she was saying she was getting all sweaty
and gross.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
It makes me think that they're not comfortable. Yeah, it's
so uncomfortable to get in and.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Out of it.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I wonder how New Balance feels about the name of
the collection, because it's called House of Balance. See I
actually laugh because their production company is called House of Groms,
and it's almost like they couldn't come up with another name.
And Sarah has been talking about finding this balance between
motherhood and her career. So I just kind of thought
it was a little bit cringe.
Speaker 7 (07:14):
I spent most of the night last night balling my
whies out. I'm going to start crying again.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
TikToker Cat Clark has revealed she's launching a skincare brand
in an unorthodox way. So, before we get into it,
who is Cat Clark? Well? Kat has over five point
nine million followers on TikTok and was crowned Australian TikTok
Creator of the.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Year in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
So she started attracting a following after she went viral
for looking like her then teenage daughter's twin sister. So
that was back in June twenty twenty one. I can
see how people would have made that mistake because Kat
actually gave birth to her first daughter, Letitia, on her
seventeenth birthday.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
They really do look the same.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Kat is now thirty seven and she documents her life
with her two daughters, so she also has a twelve
year old daughter, now, Kate, how did she announce her
skincare brand?
Speaker 3 (08:02):
So over the last couple of months, Kat has been
dropping clues about her new business venture that she's embarking
on with her two daughters. Last Tuesday, she revealed that
her new business would be called Calade, which is the
first initials of her and her two daughter's names.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
I always found it funny when people come up with
names like that. It's almost as though they just can't
think of anything else, which, you know how hard it
is to copyright a name.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
That's probably why.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Well, she did say that she would.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Cry if people laughed at the name, because she admitted
that she told one of her friends the name and
they thought it was strange, and that everyone has apparently
been pronouncing it wrong, so probably not a good indicator
that it's a great brand name.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
I heard a podcast with the founder of Drunk Elephants
saying that all of her friends don't call it drunk Elephant.
That's a terrible name, and she is succeeded.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Yeah, well, I suppose everything sounds weird when you first
hear it. Now. The following day, Cats shed another TikTok,
this time confirming that her new business was a skincare brand. However,
rather than announcing the brand in real time, she instead
uploaded an old video diary that she'd filmed five months
earlier crying at the news that Anna Paul had just
(09:06):
launched her skincare brand. Poorly, Let's throw to what Kat said.
Speaker 7 (09:12):
Three months before we announced, and Anna has just announced
that she's also launching a skincare company. I spent most
of the night last night balling my eyes out. I'm
gonna start crying again. And it's amazing, obviously, And I
just feel like I failed without even having the start.
(09:36):
I know that sounds so stupid, That's how I'm feeling.
I'm feeling very defeated, and I'm really scared. This is
so unbelievably scary doing this already. Oh God, I feel
so stupid. I can't even tell you guys in real
time because I'm not announcing until a before we go live.
(10:02):
Jonathan's obviously being like a very big support and telling
me everything's going to be okay. Starting a business is
not for the week. We haven't even launched yet, Lord
help me, will we actually launch?
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Cat finished up the video by announcing that her brand
would launch on the twenty six of February. Now that
video has clocked up three point seven million views and
at the time of recording, has attracted a lot of
negative comments, so people have accused Kat of being manipulative, embarrassing,
and fake crying. The top comment said, imagine a grown woman,
(10:35):
a supposed CEO of a company, making a crying video
because of other people's businesses? What is happening with society now?
That comment got over two three hundred likes. Anna Paul
actually chimed in on the video, writing no, never feel
like this. I'm so happy for you, which got thirty
four thousand likes.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Now.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Cat clapped back at the negative comments, saying.
Speaker 8 (10:58):
This, imagine investing all your money, remortgaging your house, your
husband has just quitted his job, and you are going
one hundred percent all in on your small business idea.
Just imagine for a second that you took out that
much money to invest in something, and then a month
later someone has the same idea as you.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
She then went on to say that she recorded the
video to help other small business owners out there so
they didn't feel alone. She also said she wanted to
share her journey.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
It almost seems like she's trying to use Anna Pol's
name just to get attention for the brand because the
skincare industry is so oversaturated anyway, I don't think the
fact that another TikToker has released a skincare brand really
affects you that much. Considering I think her audience would
be quite different. I didn't agree that she's using Anna
(11:50):
Poul's name though, because she's got nearly six million of
her own TikTok followers about.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
She needs to.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
It's a way to generate discussion online because if she hadn't,
it would be like a bit ho hum or. Another
TikTok has released a skincare brand, and I'm sure people
would have drawn comparisons to it without her even saying anything.
So if I tend to agree with you, I really
rolled my eyes when she was saying that someone else's
had the same idea as her. It's like, it's a
completely saturated market with celebrities and influencers.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
You know, launching your skincare.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Brand is nowhere close to a unique idea anymore.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Now. In a follow up video, Kat opened up about
her fears of starting a new business, and she said
that she has actually put her entire life savings into it.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
She also seemed quite surprised when she shared some of
the revelations that she's learnt along the way, so she
said that she was surprised that she had to hire
a chemist to create the formula, get a website, and
have to pay for a barcode. She also seems surprised
when she shared some revelations that she'd learnt along the way,
and these were probably things I would have kept to myself.
(12:52):
So she said she was surprised that they had to
hire a chemist to create the formula of the product,
and to me, that would be something quite obvious that
you would have to do, and it just made it
seem very transactional that they just want to slap their
name on a product and get it out there.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Well, I reckon she was secretly more annoyed about the
anna Pol deal because she discovered that anna Pol had
the backing of a huge PR company like Sam Maignan
and a huge business mind like him.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Well that is a good point, because Kat has shared
that she is operating from her townhouse and they're hoping
after the launch to be able to afford a warehouse.
But at the moment, their SHD is literally stacked with
all of these boxes. It seems like they have so
many boxes inside the house and her family are the
production team, so they're all creating the boxes and putting
product in. So she has really gone with this marketing
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strategy to push how hard it is on them, and
she is hoping that that creates some sales.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
It does irk me though, when influencers refer to their
businesses as small business like on an operations front, obviously
this does sound like a small business. But from the
other perspective, she has an inbuilt audience of over five
million people. No other startup small businesses are lucky enough
to have an inbuilt audience like that. Yeah, it's definitely
(14:09):
not your typical startup business. Let's wrote to more of
what she said in this other TikTok video.
Speaker 8 (14:16):
And then there's that other fear of like what if
it doesn't sell out?
Speaker 7 (14:19):
What if we sell like a hundred and then we're
stuck with the rest of the products in our house.
That's embarrassing.
Speaker 8 (14:26):
Embarrassing because we didn't sell anything, but also very embarrassing
because I've just poured my entire life savings into this.
Speaker 7 (14:35):
And we'll probably go broke. I really hope I'm making
the right decision.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Again, this is not a reflective fear of a small business,
because no small business would dream of selling out their
first product in the first drop. So as much as
she is trying to create this narrative of being a
small business who needs her.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Followers help, it's quite the opposite here.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Do we think that her key marketing strategy is to
be vulnerable and give sort of the backside of what's
going on in the background of this startup business.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
It's the total.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Opposite of Anna Poul's because can you imagine Anna paul
came out and was like, Oh.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
No, one's going to buy my stuff.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Hers seems the branding, the pr behind it all seems
super professional in comparison in.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Terms of products, people are already drawing comparisons to Paulie.
So when Kat unveiled her range, she was wearing a
branded headband almost identical to Paulie's one, And just like Anna,
Kat is also launching four products initially, So her products
are a cleanser and face moisturizer just like Anna's, plus
a face oil and body moisturizer, and each product is
(15:37):
packaged in a different pastel package. So Anna's products each
were in a different colored container as well. So it
just seems like such a copy. I'm not saying it is,
but it's just not good timing for this launch.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
That.
Speaker 8 (15:55):
I'm sorry, Why not right now? Please?
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Millie Ford's recent cam on Home and Away has signaled
a big career move. The popular TikToker, best known for
her comedy impressions of everyday Australians, says she's now pursuing
her childhood dream of being an actor. Now she's got
herself an acting agent and creative representation and is hoping
to get more comedy roles. Did you guys see her
(16:19):
on Home and Away?
Speaker 1 (16:20):
I didn't see it on Home and Away, but I
did see her on social media because Milly was tagged
as a collaborator on the post, which was very clever
and I do wonder if that's why Milly was granted
this role, because it got so much coverage on TikTok
and on Instagram. When I first saw this, I assume
that she was actually going to become a cast member. However,
it was a cameo and that left a lot of
(16:40):
people disappointed.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
I'm guessing that.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Producers have asked her to perform one of her TikTok personas,
because that's what it felt like when I saw this.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
It really did feel like that she was playing an
influencer called Montana, so in the scene, she was forced
to do community service and was coming up with a
whole bunch of excuses to.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
Get out of it. Let's throw to some of it.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
I want to do for a break, yet I need
to say hydrated. There are plenty of breaks built into
your hour.
Speaker 7 (17:05):
I know the thing is with me.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
I need to look after myself.
Speaker 8 (17:10):
Let me show you my social I'm.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Not not interested in your socials.
Speaker 8 (17:13):
So let's chat. We're waiting.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
I will okay, just give me five minutes. I'm not
going to ask you again.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
So easy for you.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
You got to just stand there.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Well, I'm getting assaulted by asparagus fans.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Why don't you give it a try?
Speaker 4 (17:26):
No, wait, hang on, I got a rush.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Wait genuinely, I have a rush?
Speaker 7 (17:33):
Right that?
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Can younot see that?
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Right?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Genuinely? It really hurts.
Speaker 8 (17:35):
I think I don't see anything.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
If you sit down, I'm not going to better sign
you off for hours.
Speaker 7 (17:41):
That's not fair.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
You can't do that. Justin tell us she can't do that.
What's it going to be? What's it going to be?
Speaker 7 (17:47):
So much?
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Now a lot of people were saying that this scene
felt like it was ripped straight from Shit's Creek. I
know exactly which scene you're referring to, and it does
seem like this has been stolen.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
Yeah, well I do. I think that they were.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Really trying to get her to put on one of
her personas, because she also recently appeared on the TV
series Bump, and she played a school librarian, which is
one of her reoccurring characters. She also revealed she's dropping
a new single in two weeks time. So a couple
of weeks back, she joked that she wanted to make
the song of the Summer and started coming up with
tunes on Garage Band. Now, I assumed it was a joke. However,
(18:24):
late last week, following her cameo on Home and Away,
she confirmed she's also going to double in music. Let's
throw it to a bit of a song.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
I am so confused by this. Is this song actually
airing on Home and Away? No, it's got nothing to
do with it. It just so happens that she announced
the song and Home and Away appearance the same way.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Well, it makes sense because she got a lot of
attention over the Home and Away cameo and then there's
a lot of chatter around what her next career move is.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
She has spoken on.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Her podcast about her love of singing, but it was
more of a piss takee, like she was saying, oh,
you know when you sing into your phone and you
want to hear if you're any good. She has to
do that, though, because her whole personal brand is built
around being someone who is funny and it takes a
piss out of people, so she can't be seen to
be taking herself too seriously, even though she clearly wants
(19:30):
to explore the avenue of acting and singing seriously. I
wonder if she finds it frustrating because there's so many
hoops she's got to jump through in order for people
not to get tall poppy syndrome with her and think
that she's a sellout. I did find it interesting listening
to her speak on Clare Stevens's podcast about how she's
always dreamt of being an influencer, and if anything, it
seems sort of in contradiction to what she's about, because
(19:52):
she seems to kind of poke fun at people who
are like that. I am interested to see how her
single goes and if people's perceptions of her begin to
change before we get into the next topic. We want
to issue a trigger warning it may be upsetting for
some listeners. We do touch on issues surrounding domestic violence
and murder. Celebrity blogger turned police officer bo Lamar Condon
(20:15):
has been charged with the shocking murder of Channel ten
presenter Jesse bad and his partner Luke Davies. It's believed
the new South Wales police officer had been stalking his
ex boyfriend Jesse following the breakup.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Now the tragedy has sent shock.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Waves through the LGBTQ community, with many calling for police
officers not to march in this year's Mardi Gras. Now, Sophie,
this has been absolutely heart wrenching to watch. I just
haven't been able to stop thinking about this story. When
you take a look at both men's Instagram accounts, it's
clear that they were living out their dreams.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Both men were only in their twenties.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Luke was jetting all over the world with his job
as a flight attendant and Jesse was just establishing himself
as a really talented TV presenter at Channel ten and
also as a football umpire. They had so much life
to live and they've only just started their relationship in January,
so Luke first posted about their relationship on the fifth
of February, sharing a photo of him and Jesse in
(21:10):
front of a Palm Beach lighthouse. Jesse then confirmed their
relationship two days later, posting photos of the couple wine
tasting and playing tennis at the Hunter Valley Now. A
few days later, the couple attended Pink Sydney concert together,
and Jesse didn't share those photos until last Sunday, which
is the last day he and Luke were seen by
their friends leaving the Bresford Hotel. They had spent the
(21:33):
night partying at a packed nightclub which held a Mardy
Grant night, before heading back to Jesse's home in Paddington. Now.
Jesse and Luke have not been seen since, with friends
and family unable to contact them.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Now.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Suspicions were raised on Wednesday when blooded clothing belonging to
the couple was found in a skip bin near a
club in Sydney's South. As well as the close, police
found credit cards, a wallet and a watch worth eight
thousand dollars now. It led police to search Jesse's share
house in Paddington, where a significant amount of blood was
discovered it appeared someone had attempted to clean it up.
(22:06):
Furniture had also been broken. Neighbors did tell police that
they heard shouting at a verbal argument, but didn't think
it was worth reporting. Now police launched a public man
hunt for both men, saying they held grave concerns for
them now.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
By late Thursday afternoon, questions began to be asked about
former connections with police, discovering Jesse previously dated Constable Beau
Lamark Condon. Now Bo's name may sound familiar to you
because before joining the police force, he ran a now
defunct celebrity news site called The Australian Reporter.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
It's crazy because I actually first heard of this story
on the Daily Mail and they plasted his face next
to Kim Kardashian and Taylor Swift and I actually did
recognize him yet.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Well, he goes by the pseudonym Bo London, and he
created a social media account called That's the Tea where
he would share these photos and also interviews with celebrities.
He has been labeled Australia's biggest fan, so he has
a really long history of celebrity chasing and he did
manage to interview a number of a list celebrities and
somehow managed to snag himself a spot at the Golden Globes.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
What was really creepy was that the week of the
alleged murders, he snapped a photo of himself with Courtney
Karashian and Travis Barker while they were in Sydney. It
just blows my mind that this person could have been
allegedly plotting these murders, but also at the top of
their priority list is getting a fan photo with a Kutashi.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
I just found it so wrong that the media we're
using photos of him with, say Taylor Swift, and also
the photo with Travis and Courtney as main pictures. It
was kind of almost connecting those celebrities to this horrific crime.
Everyone has been going absolutely crazy over Taylor Swift, so
I can see why they did use that very old photo,
and I do think it paints a bit of a
(23:50):
picture because more recently the news has been reporting that
he allegedly stalked his.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Ex partner, so kind of paints a picture that he
is this celebrity chaser that is hunting people down.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
And the fact that Jesse used to work on Studio teen.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Yeah, well, Jesse is the one who's said to have
ended this relationship, and Bo did not take it well,
and Jesse told friends that he was worried he was
being stalked by Bo. So his friends have since told
investigators that Jesse said he saw a shadowy figure at
the end of his bed late at night in recent months,
but when he woke up, the person left, and he
(24:27):
obviously didn't go to police about this.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
It is just so scary.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
And awful to hear these details come out, because this
country needs to take domestic violence a lot more seriously.
The fact that this guy was stalking him, he's a
police officer, he has used a police weapon allegedly to
murder two innocent civilians.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
It just makes me feel sick.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Well, there were even more red flags about this guy
because he did find himself at the center of an
internal investigation in twenty twenty when he was filmed tasering
an Indigenous man in the face. Now he was cleared
of any wrongdoing, I have to say, But interestingly, Bo
follows in the footsteps of his mother, Colleen, who is
(25:09):
high up at the New South Wales Police Force. Interesting
and Bo's sister also held a position in the police
radio unit, but was dismissed over her refusal to take
the COVID nineteen vaccine a number of years ago. So now,
Bo was reportedly on sick leave the week of the
alleged murders and he was not responding to any phone calls,
so with detectives unable to locate him, they started a
(25:31):
fresh man hunt. Now by the morning, Bow turned his
phone back on and handed himself into detectives where he
was arrested. So he has been charged with two counts
of murder. Now as it stands, he has not told
the police where the two bodies are. Now.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
As I touched on earlier, it is alleged that Bo
used his police handgun. So gun casing at the scene
match Bow's police issued handgun. On Tuesday morning, he called
in sick to work, but he did return his police
firearm to a suburban police station. It's then alleged that
he hired a white fan to transport and dispose.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Of the bodies.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
If this is true, this is one of the most
disgusting abuses of power I have ever seen. The fact
that he felt comfortable to allegedly use his own handgun
to carry out this crime, but then also to go
and return it to the police station the next day
as though nothing had happened. I just feel so sorry
for Jesse's Channel ten colleagues who've had to report on
this case. It has been interesting to see how they
(26:31):
have handled it.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
And they've done it with such grace.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
They've even had parts of their stories where they've interviewed colleagues,
which has just been so touching.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Yeah. Well, Jesse's colleague, Hugh Rimington wrote on social media,
rest in peace, my beloved young colleague Jesse happy with
a new man and that it is being alleged was
the problem. Condolences also to the family and friends of
Luke Davies. Many tears tonight now. Another friend shared a
tribute to Jesse and ended with jealousy shouldn't end like
(27:00):
this will.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Prominent LGBTQ organizations have said that this tragedy highlights the
issue of domestic violence in the gay community.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
It has been interesting to see the reporting around this
because when this story first broke, I saw language used like.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
The murder of his lover yea and slain. It was
just so disrespectful to the situation because if this had
been a heterosexual relationship, I think the headline would have
been very different, but to denigrate that as these lovers,
I just did not.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
Like that at all.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
The murders also do come on the eve of the
Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras, and many people in
the community are saying that they don't think police should
march in this year's parade, and it is a bad look.
And I think this also comes off the back of
news organizations posting past photos of Bo actually marching in
the parade in his police uniform, and the community clearly
(27:54):
isn't feeling protected. They don't feel like enough is being done,
multiple police sources tell news outlets. So they're frustrated by
the investigation, secrecy and handling of the case.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Well I can see why, considering that Bo's mother is
high up in the New South Wales Police Force.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
On seven News they touched on the fact that they.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Waited twenty four hours to actually get this story out
there to the media, when in other domestic violence cases
it's been reported immediately, So they were obviously trying to
work out how best to reveal that the number one
suspect is a police officer. And it's not a good
look because I think there's a lot of question marks
over if this guy did this, how did he actually
(28:33):
pass the site test to get into the police Well,
there are a lot of question marks around who else
knew about this, what was going on. He's suddenly on
leave when all of this is happening, He's taken leave
and then he is allegedly going in a white van
and getting the bodies.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
Like so many questions.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
His mother's house was rated when they couldn't find him,
and that would have probably been quite awkward.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
What I think the most disturbing thing to come out
recently is the fact that Jesse's friends have come out
Sophie as you said earlier, and said he was concerned
about Bo's behavior and thinks that he was stalking him. So,
while no official complaint had been made to authorities, Detective
Superintendent Daniel Dougherty said worrying behavior from Bo had come
to lights since the couple disappeared, and stalking is a
(29:19):
very common tactic used by domestic abuses. It is frequently
present in the lead up to domestic violence and related murders,
so it would be interesting to know when this was
flagged to police.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
And it's really sad because I think some people don't
come forward and make a complaint because they think that
maybe it sounds silly, maybe people are overthinking it.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Well, particularly when it's someone that is in the police
force it's allegedly doing it as well. And there's some
start I saw last night in this Netflix Docko on stalking.
I think at zero point zero one percent of offenders
who are actually found guilty of stalking.
Speaker 5 (29:50):
Go to prison.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Well, particularly in this situation where it's a police officer,
as you touched on Kate, who's allegedly doing it and
they have family members who are high up in the
police force. I think that is where we will leave
you today. Thank you so much for joining us for
today's episode. If you have enjoyed it, could you please
make sure you are subscribed on Apple Podcasts and also Spotify.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
And I just want to add we do send all
of our love and our hearts go out to Jesse
and Luke's families who are dealing with this absolute tragedy
at the moment. This podcast was recorded on the traditional
land of the Ghana people of the Adelaide Plains. We
pay respect to elders past and present
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