September 29, 2025 • 29 mins
Sarah’s Day fuels speculation of baby number four. The Daily Mail think they know why Tammy Hembrow was 'friend-zoned' by Bailey Smith. Skye Wheatley’s baby daddy, Lachy Waugh, shares confronting footage of him drinking and burning items at their home... AND Tyson Fury’s daughter’s shock engagement at her sixteen birthday party.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
Sophie Torbah and coming up on today's show, Sarah's Day
fuel speculation of baby number four Tyson Fury's daughter's shock
engagement at a sixteenth birthday party, and The Daily Mail
thinks they know why Tammy Hembro was friend zoned by
(00:26):
Bailey Smith. But first, Sky Wheatley's baby daddy, Lockey War
has shared disturbing footage of him drinking and burning items
at their home. Locke's erratic behavior comes as Sky confirmed
the couple's breakup during an Instagram live last week. Breakup
rumors have been following the couple for months now. We
did cover the story in depth on Friday show, so
(00:47):
if you missed it, go back and have a listen.
But Kay, can you tell us the latest? I have
to admit I found the footage quite unsettling when it
popped up on Locke's Instagram story on Friday night, and
it came off the back of Sky accusing Lockie of
cheating on her in her Instagram live a few days earlier. Now.
The vision was filmed from Lockie's perspective, and it was
(01:07):
at nighttime, and he showed himself standing in the backyard
of the property he is renovating with sky looking back
at the house that was all lit up, and he
panned down to the beer he was drinking, and in
the background you could hear he was listening to music.
In the next frame, Lockie showed himself walking through the
empty house and he stopped in the kitchen where there
was this big pile of packed boxes, and he captured
(01:29):
the footage a couple of beers deep gin. Next in
the following stories, the packed boxes were then outside in
the backyard and it appears Locke had poured flammable liquid
on the boxes and a line leading from the boxes
to him, and so he lit the boxes on fire.
It seemed to be for dramatic effect for the instagram's
story because, as he said, it was this line of
(01:50):
fire that then quickly moved to burn the boxes. And
it was the music he was playing in the background
that seemed to get a lot of people's attention. Yeah,
the song Lockie was listening to it was quite telling.
It was called will Do and it was by TV
on the radio and the lyrics that played said any
time will do what choice of words will take me
back to you? Your love makes a fool of you.
(02:10):
You can't seem to understand a heart doesn't play by
rules and love has its own demands. But I'll be
there to take care of you if you ever should
decide that you don't want to waste your life in
the middle of a love stick La La By. I
would have been really interested to see the behind the
scenes filming of this Instagram story because I feel like
he waited for that particular lyric to start playing for
(02:31):
him to then light everything on fire because the song
was actually playing in the background. It's not like he
added the music on top when he uploaded the story. Now.
Fortunately it pears Sky and the couple's young sons, Forest
and Bear weren't at the house. They still appear to
be holidaying on the Gold Coast. I really hope that
Lockie's okay. He has become one of my favorite boyfriends
of Instagram, and obviously this breakup has hit him very hard.
(02:52):
We did joke on Friday Show that we enjoy the
rogueness of some of his Instagram stories. I mean, there
was that infamous sausages and saunas in so I didn't
I would like to see more humor, not so much this.
This was a bit disturbing. Yeah, as I said earlier,
I found the whole thing pretty unsettling, considering we didn't
know what was actually in the boxes, Like was he
burning Sky's possessions where they his own? Was it just
(03:13):
garbage that was inside the house because they're doing renovations,
like it was all very confusing. It did appear that
this incident was alcohol fueled, because he did show that
he was drinking. It was a Friday night. You know,
it's sad that he appeared to be by himself. He
obviously also knows the eyeballs are going to be on
his Instagram at the moment. When we shared a link
to that story, we had so many click throughs. It's
(03:35):
probably the most we've had in a while. There are
a lot of people interested in this breakup, and I'm
sure he's noticed an influx of people clicking on his
Instagram stories, so he wanted to send a message or
show the mindset that he's in at the moment. Yeah,
I just really hope everyone that's involved is okay, because again,
we're not really sure what message he was trying to send.
It was all very confusing. He's not a big Footy
(03:55):
fan and they were just mates. So the Daily Mail
claims to know the real reason why Bailey Smith publicly
friend zoned Tammy Hembro. The publication ran with some downright
sexist quotes that have got us really riled up, So
can you tell us more? Well? The publication ran with
the story that Matt Szakowski's friends have gone to Bailey
(04:16):
Smith and warned him about dating her. So an unnamed
insider was quoted as saying a few of Matt's mates
got in Bailey's ear and told him what had really
gone down. It didn't paint Tammy in the best light.
Bailey appreciated the heads up and it definitely made him
rethink whether it was a good idea. Another insider allegedly
said he was open to seeing where things could go,
(04:39):
but in the end he called time. I actually wouldn't
be surprised if this has happened, because I think we
mentioned it a couple of weeks ago, but we received
a couple of dms, and other people in the media
have been receiving dms from Matt Zakowski's friends who are
pushing a particular story about Tammy Hembrow and the reason
why they broke up, and it is not a flattering
(04:59):
portrayal Tammy by any means. I think it's disappointing that
if this is the case, that Bailey actually took her
on board, because you know, someone's ex is always going
to be peddling negative stories about them. Yeah, but I
want to point out, we don't even know if this
is true. The Daily Mail could have just created this
story because they've heard that the friends are pushing a
particular story true that Bailey believes them. Yeah, very true.
(05:22):
The Daily Mail also alleged that Bailey had already moved
on and was quote knee deep in dms with women
aged twenty one and twenty two. The Insider was quoted
as saying, he's let a couple of girls know the
Tammy chapter is over. He's dodged a bullet and he
knows it. He's back on the prower for women his
own age with less baggage. So there's a real emphasis
on the fact that Tammy is older, she's a mum,
(05:45):
she's thirty one, whereas he's more interested in going for
the younger jen Z girls. Oh my god, I was
so disgusted by these sexist and ages quotes. It's like
she's thirty one, for goodness sake, she's not even old.
Like it's so ridiculous. And I really think this all
comes down to Bailey's choice of words during the Carl
and JACKIEO interview, because by saying we're just friends, it
(06:06):
really gives this connotation that Tammy was the one wanting
more and he said no. Last week we did say
that we were surprised that Bailey Smith was allowed to
actually appear on the Carl and Jackie O Show because
it seemed like he'd been told by the Geelong coaching
staff that he needed to focus on football rather than
his personal life. Because I mean, if you're a Geelong fan,
you're gonna be pretty pissed off if he suddenly starts
(06:28):
to perform badly and you're thinking, well, it's because he's
got so much media focus on this new relationship. So
his decision to take part in an interview there was
clearly going to be about Tammy right before the Brownlow.
It didn't really make sense and I'm starting to think
now that it was a strategic move because by being
the one to address the relationship and say we're just friends,
(06:48):
it gave Bailey all of the power. It made it
look like he was the one who pulled the pin
on things. Yeah, and it didn't take long for most
of us, I think us included to show our internalized
misogyny and assume that Tammy was the one who was rejected.
And it's crazy when you reflect on the fact that
Tammy is the one who is the self made millionaire
in this relationship. She's got three successful businesses, yet we
(07:09):
still inherently measure her success on being chosen by a
man to attend a football event. I mean, an event that,
let's face it, she was too big to attend anyway. Yeah,
I mean there was a reason why everyone was so
excited to see if she stepped on the red carpet
or not, because she would have absolutely eclipsed that event. Yeah.
And it made me reflect on my visceral reaction to
listening to Bailey friend zoning Tammy on the Kyle and
(07:30):
Jackie oshow because I felt sick. It made me feel
embarrassed and kind of reflect on all those times that
I've been rejected by men and sadly, I think it's
just ingrained in us as women to measure our worth
on if a man chooses us. And I think we
all sort of put ourselves in Tammy's shoes. And I
mean I felt very sorry for her, But in reality,
who knows what happened. I mean, Tammy may have said, oh,
(07:51):
I'm sorry, I'm not going to be able to go
to the brown Low. I've got school holidays with my kids.
I've got a holiday booked in. And maybe Bailey was
the one that felt rejected and got on the Kyl
and Jackie Show and was like, oh no, I've friends
owned her. Like, we just don't know what's actually occurred.
We also don't know if they're back on now that
the Grand Final is over, particularly because Bailey Smith and
his team did not win the Grand Finals. Not a
(08:12):
good day for Famous. I mean, I assume he's probably
on a bit of a bender on Saturday night, so
maybe Tammy might have got a drunken text message. Who knows, well,
as we're recording this on a Monday afternoon, he's currently
on mad Monday. Look. I think that any girl who's
ever dreamed of dating a football and od's it's not
a good time to start things up at the end
of the season. There's just so many parties and carry on.
(08:32):
Mad Monday is probably the worst down the calendar for
every woman who dates an AFL player, like, oh, he'd
be absolutely awful. I remember when we were very much
into the footy guys, when we were you know, nineteen
twenty and anyone from Adelaide knows that you'd always go
to the Grand on a Sunday night at the end
of the footy season because that's where all of the
players would be, but they would be running an absolute mark.
(08:54):
The other hot spot for AFL players was the Marble
Bar back in the day that is now gone. This
is a really this is a really sad confession, but
I remember you used to have to pay to get
into the Marble Bar. I think it was ten dollars,
which would be quite cheap now. And you know, we
were UNI students back then with a part time job.
We're like, I'm not wasting the money. So we would
send one person in to do a lap of the
(09:14):
marble bar see if there were any footy players in there,
and then the rest of us would invest in going
in there. God, how tragic. Does this sound? It's just
so embarrassing reflecting on how you put these footy players
on this massive pedestal. All the gen Zettas should be
happy though, because they now have access to guys like
Bailey Smith on Tinder instead of having to go to
these awful night clubs or just on Instagram. I think
(09:35):
it's so much easier to slide into dms these days.
Well even with Instagram now, I think it's easier to
slide into the DMS. I am embarrassed to put that
story out there, but I'm confident in doing so because
I know there will be listeners who, you know, ten
years ago, were doing the exact same thing. I think
it's like fifteen years ago, so oh, you forget that.
I'm thirty six. Getting back to Tammy and Bay. Despite
(10:01):
Bailey claiming to Carl and Jackie O that Tammy's not
a footy fan and she would have been bored at
the Brownlow, it appears she still celebrated Grand Final Day
with her family, so she shared a photo of her
watching the AFL on the big screen along with two
laptops playing rugby and horse racing. She actually posted this
photo to her Instagram grid, So she was keen for
people to know she watched the game. Is she stamping
(10:23):
her authorady back over him? Is that what's going? Well?
The thing is, it's not like it was the full
TV screen, like you kind of had to look at
the photo carefully, but you could see it was halftime
and you could see Geelong and Brisbane and then the
two laptops. Well, in her defense, who's not watching the
ground final? I feel like most people get around it.
What do you think of Snoop Dog? I have to
call myself out. It was very UnAustralian of me. I
(10:44):
did not watch one second of it. I didn't watch
to watch the pregame. So you haven't even seen Snoop
Dog popping up on TikTok. I've seen bits and pieces
of it, But I mean, Snoop Dog doesn't really interest
me like I was interested in Katie Perry. Last year,
we had a family thing because it was my father
in law's birthday, and it was so funny watching my
husband and brother in law flock to the TV to
watch Snoop DOGG like they were like two teenage boys, like,
(11:06):
oh my god. So it's clear that they were going
for a very male dominated audience, and I have to
say I did get quite excited when he slinked out
onto the oval, but then I got bored by it.
Like once they had the first song, I was like,
cause they're not really pump up songs, are they? Very well,
from what I saw, it was very static, like it
didn't really move from the stage. I mean, last year
Katie Perry was being driven around the perimeter of the ground.
(11:29):
I think it's also the fact that Katie Perry has
so many mainstream bangers. Yeah, that I think both genders enjoy.
But I mean, the AFL is very clever because they're
trying to get international eyeballs on the halftime Well, it's
not even halftime performance, it's the pregame performance. And it's
clearly what happened. You can really tell the difference between
say the AFL and the NFL in terms of their
(11:50):
halftime show because back in the day it used to
be just the mascots having a running race. I don't
know if that's still someone reshare And I don't know
how long ago this was that Kath and Kim were
actually part of the pregame entertainment where they did this
comedy skit where they were singing on stage. Oh, that
would have been great, and they're like, Wow, we've come
(12:10):
a long way. I did see on Matsakowski's story the
Snoop Dogg was performing at some club in Melbourne and
he was pretty much front row. Yeah, well, how much
did they pay Snoop Dogg to appear at the nightclub,
because didn't he get five million dollars for the AFL
Grand Final performance?
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:25):
I don't know if he just went rogue and was like,
I'm going to do a set here. We kept joking
that the second the performance was over, he's on his
private jet just counting his money out of there. Well,
on the topic of Matsakowski, I feel like he made
a little bit of a dig at the Tammy Bailey
situation because he posted a photo on his Instagram story
of him celebrating Grand Final day and he was wearing
a Brisbane Bears jersey. So the Brisbane Bears that was
(12:48):
what the Brisbane Lines used to be known as. And
I'm like, oh, he's going for Brisbane. Well, how embarrassing
would it have been if he got around in a
Geelong gun. Well, he is an Essendon supporter, but he's
obviously wasn't backing the Victorian team that day with Bailey
Smith playing for Geelong.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
I didn't even think pregnancy baby until I was complaining
to Kurt. I was like, oh, I'm pretty sure I'm
getting my period back, and he was like, You're not pregnant,
are you.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Sarah's day has been labeled tone deaf after fueling her
own pregnancy rumors. The og fitness influencer has baited a
potential fourth pregnancy twice this month and admitted she was
freaking out over supposed pregnancy symptoms. Kay, can you tell
us more well? At the start of September, Sarah ta
Is on TikTok that she was either pregnant with her
(13:33):
fourth baby or her period was returning. She captured the
video should it be more concerned or do I keep
suppressing my internal freak out? And she spoke in length
about how her pre period and pregnancy symptoms are the same,
but she actually didn't consider that she could be pregnant
until her husband Kurt flagged it with her. She then
said this, I'm not baiting you here.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
I am nine to nine point nine nine nine nine
nine percent sual. I'm not pregnant, and no, I'm not
going to go into the conception conversation because you get
what you get and you don't get upset, meaning.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
I tell you what I want and then we leave
the rest. Okay.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
There's just some things on social media that I feel
like we can just leave. Okay, a little bit TMI
for me, So I'm pretty positive that I cannot get pregnant. Okay,
So just take that and just that's all you get.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
It's quite ironic that she claims she's not baiting anyone,
but started the video saying I could be pregnant with
my fourth baby, like she knows how the TikTok algorithm works.
That's going to make people stop and watch her video well,
particularly because a lot of her followers have been convinced
that she's going to try for baby number four because
she ended up having three boys and it was quite
clear that she was hoping for a girl the third
(14:41):
time around. Yeah, but since she's had her third son, Harlowe,
it's been very clear to me that she does not
want to have the newborn experience again because it's been
very tough for her with him having refluss. Oh, I
can't even imagine having three kids, especially three boys. I
probably have a different opinion to U Kate on this one.
I'm all for the TM. I understand that when it
(15:02):
comes to pregnancy, you've got to be so careful. But
we keep saying that we want influences to be more open,
and people aren't sharing things anymore. I'm really enjoying this
little insight into what's going on behind the scenes because
I think for her, she is very in tune with
her body and she's realized that something is feeling off.
She could choose not to share about it, but isn't
it more interesting that we're hearing about it. I get
(15:24):
where you're coming from. One thing I found really interesting, though,
is the fact that she doesn't want to speak about contraception,
because she started her channel talking about hormonal acne and
coming off the pill, and I got people speculating about, like, well,
why would she just not say what she's using for contraception.
I mean, I don't think she necessarily has to go
into it. Yeah, but when you're based your channel on
(15:44):
talking about things like hormonal acne, and then also recently,
since having children, she's spoken a lot about the process
that she took to try and conceive. It just seems
like a natural thing that she would discuss on her
channel if she's open to talking about fertility, and well,
we all know she loves a natural path, So maybe
she's doing quite a unique, very natural method that she
doesn't want to be promoting to her audience. Yeah, I
(16:06):
think that, I think that could be it now. As expected,
the video gained traction and hit three hundred and twenty
four thousand views on TikTok, which is actually quite a
lot for Sarah on that platform now, despite was saying
she wasn't baiting her followers. A few weeks later, Sarah
uploaded a reel that started like this, There's been a.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Lot happening in my life lately, and last week I
took a pregnancy test and this is not a joke.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
This is real life now. To push the message even further,
Sarah had a text on the screen that said I
took a pregnancy test, and the thumbnail photo of the
video was Sarah holding a pregnancy test. She then spoke
about all the pregnancy symptoms she was experiencing and how
weird it was taking a pregnancy test when she definitely
knows that she's done having children. She even held the
(16:51):
pregnancy test in the frame like it was an advert,
and it was quite strange because it was the brand
first response and I'm so used to seeing influences with
Clear Blue. I was like, hang on, what is this
like the cheaper version. She told me like, well, Clear
Blue aren't paying me and they're playing other influences, so
I'm not going to be putting them in the front
of this video. I was shocked at how many times
this pregnancy test did appear in the shot. It was like,
(17:13):
she's so clever though, because she knows that she's going
to capture people in the second they see the pregnancy test,
even if the sounds down, it's like, okay, well someone's
taking a pregnancy test. I need to know what's happening. Yeah. Well,
it wasn't until around the one minute mark of the
video that she revealed that quote. Thankfully, the test was
negative and she got her first period back since having Harlow,
so all of these symptoms were leading into the fact
(17:34):
that her period was returning for the first time postpartum. God,
I'm still waiting for my first period postpartum. Hopefully it
doesn't come for a while. It did not sound pleasant. No,
they are not fun. Sarah said though, that she was
so adamant that she was pregnant that she kept the
pregnancy test for four days. She then said, this didn't
(17:57):
like it wasn't. I wasn't like, oh my gosh, I
could be pregnant. I was like, oh my gosh, like
purb will drop dead before.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Now.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Kurt is clearly not keen to have baby number four.
I think he was really pushed across the line to
have baby number three. He looks absolutely chaotic in their
household having one. I actually don't understand how people can
go to three. No, it's quite a luxury these days.
Have three kids, though, you're to have a lot of
finances behind you. I had to laugh at one of
the comments under the video, someone wrote, Okay, the Tills
(18:27):
fam hiring a sleep consultant was obviously good for mum
and dad lo. The comments section was really interesting because
I think from Sarah using the word hopefully it's our
last pregnancy scare, it caused a lot of people again
to speculate about the contraception she was using and how
she tracks her cycle. There were a lot of calls
(18:48):
for Kurt to get a vaseectomy. In terms of people
asking why she doesn't track her cycle, I saw that
she responded and said, well, to be fair, I didn't
have anything to track. Yeah, And she spoke about how
with her second son, Malachi, it took like twenty two
months or something like that for a period to return,
so this is fairly early for her in her postpartum journey.
There were a lot of people labeling the pregnancy baiting
(19:09):
as tone deaf. What did you think? So? Look, I
was pretty surprised to see the video pop up because
people nowadays are being so careful with anything relating to pregnancy.
It can be very triggering for some people. That's why
I didn't think that she would share something like that. Yeah,
and I think it was the way the pregnancy test
was used as a prop, like it was so overtly done.
(19:31):
It was clear she was trying to build engagement. That
video attracted one point four million views on Instagram, so
it clearly worked. And on the other side of things,
I'm sort of all for videos where influencers really do
give you an insight into what's going on, because the
influencer space is becoming boring when people don't share about
what's really going on in their lives. Yeah, but the
news was that her period had returned. It wasn't about
(19:53):
being pregnant. She knew before she filmed that video that
she wasn't pregnant, but the news also was that she
thought she was. And she's a content creator. She creates
engaging videos that people want to click on, and that's
her job. Look, I think I found it quite jarring
because pregnancy and fertility is such a sensitive topic. So
I think I was sort of like, Oh, this just
(20:13):
seems so overt to the pregnancy baiting. When you look
at the fact that she's also just about to launch
a new fitness challenge, it's clear that she is wanting
as many eyeballs to her page as possible. So she
has been accused in the past of trying to generate
controversy when she's about to drop something new. Yeah, that's
a really good point. So we have spoken on the
podcast about her fitness challenge. It's called five sixty. Sarah
(20:35):
has announced its launching on the ninth of October, which
I found a pretty bold move because she's spoken openly
about the fact that she still needs to shoot the
workout content for the challenge. She tried to film it
the other day and her son Harlowe was awake, so
she's like, should I just film it with him? I
haven't been game enough to try and do a workout
with my son Lucra. I feel like he is too
small at the moment. But I feel like that'd be
(20:56):
very challenging, particularly filming it. Oh, it would be so
for could it would be an absolute nightmare. Have you
seen the photo Sarah used to announce a launch date.
I have, and I don't mean to sound like a weirdo,
but I think what was in focus the most was
her crutch. Oh. I was like, why is this just
a shot of her crutch? So, for those who haven't
seen the photo, she is standing in this pose with
(21:20):
her arms outstretched above her head and is kind of
from her thighs upwards and her hips are pushed forward
to make her abs pop, and the photo's taken from
like blow so it really focuses on her crutch. And
it turns out her husband, Kurt Tills, took the photo
and it was pretty funny because someone wrote in the comments,
(21:41):
I saw this pic and immediately knew it was Kurt.
He has a distinctive style that I like, and I
was just loving it's of her crutch. It's clear she's
trying to get her community involved in this project and
feel like it's something they're working on together, because she
asked her followers to help select the logo for the
challenges Instagram account, and off the back of that, I
went to see just how many followers the five sixty
(22:03):
Challenge now has, and I was really shocked because it
had one hundred and twenty seven thousand followers. Yeah, I
saw it and was like, God, Jezus must be bigger
than I thought. Yeah, But then when I actually did
some digging, if you look at the tag photos, it
turns out that she's just converted her defunct health Code
podcast page into the new five sixty Challenge account. I
(22:23):
mean no shade, because if you're a business owner and
you have access to one hundred and twenty seven thousand
people on an account that you no longer use, of
course you're going to utilize it. But it does tell
me that the podcast is not coming back. And I
really enjoyed the health Code podcast in the early days. Yeah,
she's really put a line through that podcast. It's interesting though,
because she's used this method before. So she also had
an Instagram account for her defunct cooking app called Sonny,
(22:46):
and that account has now been turned into something called
the Sarah's Day Wellness Hub. So I reckon on the
five sixty challenge account that is purely going to be
focused on her sharing her journey of doing the challenge
and then maybe highlighting some community members who have had
success stories and these really good results. Yeah, I feel
like the more of the marketing I see, it's validating
my original fears that this is just going to be
(23:07):
an old school, toxic fitness challenge. I've seen the term
rules and no quitting used quite a lot, which is
a little bit of a concern. Do we think now
that she's definitely not going to have a fourth child,
she is re entering her fitness era. I mean, she
keeps saying she's definitely not going to have a fourth child,
but I would not be surprised in a couple of
years time if they have an accident child. I think
(23:28):
they're setting it up saying, oh, you know, with' having
all these pregnancy scares, like we're not really clear on
what contraception we're using. I don't think so the way
that Kurt reacted, I don't think if you're reacting like that,
if you're gunning for baby numberfore. Oh, Kurt doesn't want
baby number four, but I think Sarah potentially could after
she's recovered from having a baby with reflux. I think
(23:49):
she really wants a girl. Hi. Everyone, that's Tyson Fury
and she's Paris Fury, and today we're going to play
a little game of mister and missus. Over the weekend,
Tyson Fury's daughter Venezuela generated headlines after she got engaged
at her sixteenth birthday party. So if the announcement sent
shockquaves across social media, yeah, I mean engagement announcements always
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do well on Instagram, but this one did particularly well.
It generated over one point eight million views. Now in
the video, Venezuela, who has one hundred and ninety eight
thousand followers, shared a close up of her new engagement
ring and wrote We're getting married. So happy and tagged
her new fiance Noah Price. Now. Venezuela's mum, Paris Fury,
(24:33):
who is married to the famous boxer, also broke the
news to her one point nine million followers, sharing the
moment that Noah popped the question, and I have to
say that this is probably one of the most awkward
proposal videos I have ever seen. It is very evident
that the two are very young, so in the video,
Noah got down on one knee on this empty dance floor.
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There were a handful of family members who were looking on,
and at one point a random jo I'll just walk
past the proposal. It was also quite a lackluster reaction
from party goers. It's interesting to have the insight from
the Furies doco because I remember seeing them getting ready
for these big parties, and even though they spent so
much money on them, they just looked like your typical
(25:16):
chavvy English event that was boring with lots of kids there. Yeah. Well,
what was also very uncomfortable about this proposal video was
that they looked uncomfortable showing affection in front of their
family and friends. Sixteen. Yeah, they gave this uncomfortable hug
and then Noah sort of gave her a kiss on
the cheek. It seemed like she knew it was coming, though,
(25:37):
because she was wearing this sparkly white two piece outfit.
It looked like a very engagement outfit. Well, I was thinking, well,
surely Noah has asked Tyson and Paris for their daughter's
hand in marriage, considering she's only sixteen, But Paris admitted
to her followers that she was shocked but happy for
the young couple. She wrote, congratulations Venezuela and Noah and
getting engaged. Both only young, but when you know you know,
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still in shock, but very happy for you. Both Me
and your dad couldn't be prouder. When I first saw
this video popping up on TikTok, there were a lot
of questions about how old her new fiance, say Noah,
actually was, because the consensus was that he looked a
lot older than Venezuela. But he is in fact seventeen
years old, and funnily enough, he is actually an up
and coming boxer like her dad and also her famous
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uncle Tommy Fury, so he is pretty built for a teenager,
which I think made him look a lot older as
you can expect. Paris Fury's comment section blew up, with
Venezuela's auntie Molly May, writing congratulations, special girl. Not everyone
was as happy, though, One follower wrote, this child is sixteen,
Paris and Tyson, you have worked so hard to give
your children a better life. Let your daughter see the world,
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not tie herself down to a boy madness. Now. That
comment received over four hundred likes. Another follower wrote, this
just looks so awkward and like they're both embarrassed, which
just proves they're far too young to be making such
a huge commitment to each other. Another said, regardless of age,
this is the most awkward like we've ever seen. There
was a follower who told people not to be haters
(27:04):
and pointed out that Paris got with Tyson at her
sixteenth birthday and that they're still together, so it would
be a fun fact. Paris is only thirty five and
Tyson is thirty seven, which blows my mind. I can't
imagine being the mother of a bride at this age.
I mean, even if the bride is sixteen. We have
to remember that the Tyson family are travelers, so it
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is tradition for travelers to marry young. There is generally
not a large time span between puberty and marriage, so
the typical age for a female traveler is sixteen to
seventeen and for male travelers eighteen to nineteen. So when
you look at it with that perspective, it does make
a lot more sense. Well, I remember in The Furies
docco that Venezuela was pulled out of school at thirteen
(27:45):
so she could follow her mum around and learn how
to be a housewife basically. Well, a lot of female
travelers don't go to school at all. Yeah, that was
something that Tommy and Molly had to talk about because
it seemed like Tommy wanted and be to have quite
a traditional lifestyle. But Molly's like, no, she's definitely going
to school. Well, it seems like it's going to be
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a long engagement for Venezuela and Noah because in February
twenty twenty three, the legal age changed for marriage in England,
so previously, if you were sixteen you could get married
if you had parental permission. However, that is no longer
the case. I think it's probably good it's going to
be a bit of a long engagement. The two might
get to know each other a bit more before. I mean,
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they might actually work up to not being embarrassed to
kiss at the altar by eighteen. Well, I think that
is all we have time for today. Thank you so
much for joining us for this episode, and for those
of you playing at home, who are wondering why I'm
here on a Tuesday. You're not meant to be human
to be a maternity leader. Yeah, we are having a
bit of a rejig, so I will be on every
Tuesday episode and am we will be back for Friday's episodes.
So we thought it was a bit more consistency for everyone,
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a bit easier to plan our days. Yeah, and depending
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on Outspoken Plus, which is our subscription channel, so we
drop new episodes for scribers every Thursday, which is basically
an extension of this show. So on Thursday, we are
going to be talking about Maddie Jay and Laura Burns's
new baby, Poppy. There's been a bit of a controversy
around her name because Mattie Jay did actually drop the
(29:14):
name ahead of the birth. We'll also be discussing how
Indy Clinton's spark debate about how much money kids should
receive from the Tooth Fairy. We're also going to be
talking about the AI photos that Kate Cassidy shared of
her and her boyfriend Liam Payne. This comes almost a
year after his death. Oh my god, how is that
a year ago? Time? Is absolutely flying. It's still so
heartbroken about it. It's just devastating. Well, I don't really
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like wrapping things up on a low point, but that
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Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
Sophie Torbah and coming up on today's show, Sarah's Day
fuel speculation of baby number four Tyson Fury's daughter's shock
engagement at a sixteenth birthday party, and The Daily Mail
thinks they know why Tammy Hembro was friend zoned by
(00:26):
Bailey Smith. But first, Sky Wheatley's baby daddy, Lockey War
has shared disturbing footage of him drinking and burning items
at their home. Locke's erratic behavior comes as Sky confirmed
the couple's breakup during an Instagram live last week. Breakup
rumors have been following the couple for months now. We
did cover the story in depth on Friday show, so
(00:47):
if you missed it, go back and have a listen.
But Kay, can you tell us the latest? I have
to admit I found the footage quite unsettling when it
popped up on Locke's Instagram story on Friday night, and
it came off the back of Sky accusing Lockie of
cheating on her in her Instagram live a few days earlier. Now.
The vision was filmed from Lockie's perspective, and it was
(01:07):
at nighttime, and he showed himself standing in the backyard
of the property he is renovating with sky looking back
at the house that was all lit up, and he
panned down to the beer he was drinking, and in
the background you could hear he was listening to music.
In the next frame, Lockie showed himself walking through the
empty house and he stopped in the kitchen where there
was this big pile of packed boxes, and he captured
(01:29):
the footage a couple of beers deep gin. Next in
the following stories, the packed boxes were then outside in
the backyard and it appears Locke had poured flammable liquid
on the boxes and a line leading from the boxes
to him, and so he lit the boxes on fire.
It seemed to be for dramatic effect for the instagram's
story because, as he said, it was this line of
(01:50):
fire that then quickly moved to burn the boxes. And
it was the music he was playing in the background
that seemed to get a lot of people's attention. Yeah,
the song Lockie was listening to it was quite telling.
It was called will Do and it was by TV
on the radio and the lyrics that played said any
time will do what choice of words will take me
back to you? Your love makes a fool of you.
(02:10):
You can't seem to understand a heart doesn't play by
rules and love has its own demands. But I'll be
there to take care of you if you ever should
decide that you don't want to waste your life in
the middle of a love stick La La By. I
would have been really interested to see the behind the
scenes filming of this Instagram story because I feel like
he waited for that particular lyric to start playing for
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him to then light everything on fire because the song
was actually playing in the background. It's not like he
added the music on top when he uploaded the story. Now.
Fortunately it pears Sky and the couple's young sons, Forest
and Bear weren't at the house. They still appear to
be holidaying on the Gold Coast. I really hope that
Lockie's okay. He has become one of my favorite boyfriends
of Instagram, and obviously this breakup has hit him very hard.
(02:52):
We did joke on Friday Show that we enjoy the
rogueness of some of his Instagram stories. I mean, there
was that infamous sausages and saunas in so I didn't
I would like to see more humor, not so much this.
This was a bit disturbing. Yeah, as I said earlier,
I found the whole thing pretty unsettling, considering we didn't
know what was actually in the boxes, Like was he
burning Sky's possessions where they his own? Was it just
(03:13):
garbage that was inside the house because they're doing renovations,
like it was all very confusing. It did appear that
this incident was alcohol fueled, because he did show that
he was drinking. It was a Friday night. You know,
it's sad that he appeared to be by himself. He
obviously also knows the eyeballs are going to be on
his Instagram at the moment. When we shared a link
to that story, we had so many click throughs. It's
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probably the most we've had in a while. There are
a lot of people interested in this breakup, and I'm
sure he's noticed an influx of people clicking on his
Instagram stories, so he wanted to send a message or
show the mindset that he's in at the moment. Yeah,
I just really hope everyone that's involved is okay, because again,
we're not really sure what message he was trying to send.
It was all very confusing. He's not a big Footy
(03:55):
fan and they were just mates. So the Daily Mail
claims to know the real reason why Bailey Smith publicly
friend zoned Tammy Hembro. The publication ran with some downright
sexist quotes that have got us really riled up, So
can you tell us more? Well? The publication ran with
the story that Matt Szakowski's friends have gone to Bailey
(04:16):
Smith and warned him about dating her. So an unnamed
insider was quoted as saying a few of Matt's mates
got in Bailey's ear and told him what had really
gone down. It didn't paint Tammy in the best light.
Bailey appreciated the heads up and it definitely made him
rethink whether it was a good idea. Another insider allegedly
said he was open to seeing where things could go,
(04:39):
but in the end he called time. I actually wouldn't
be surprised if this has happened, because I think we
mentioned it a couple of weeks ago, but we received
a couple of dms, and other people in the media
have been receiving dms from Matt Zakowski's friends who are
pushing a particular story about Tammy Hembrow and the reason
why they broke up, and it is not a flattering
(04:59):
portrayal Tammy by any means. I think it's disappointing that
if this is the case, that Bailey actually took her
on board, because you know, someone's ex is always going
to be peddling negative stories about them. Yeah, but I
want to point out, we don't even know if this
is true. The Daily Mail could have just created this
story because they've heard that the friends are pushing a
particular story true that Bailey believes them. Yeah, very true.
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The Daily Mail also alleged that Bailey had already moved
on and was quote knee deep in dms with women
aged twenty one and twenty two. The Insider was quoted
as saying, he's let a couple of girls know the
Tammy chapter is over. He's dodged a bullet and he
knows it. He's back on the prower for women his
own age with less baggage. So there's a real emphasis
on the fact that Tammy is older, she's a mum,
(05:45):
she's thirty one, whereas he's more interested in going for
the younger jen Z girls. Oh my god, I was
so disgusted by these sexist and ages quotes. It's like
she's thirty one, for goodness sake, she's not even old.
Like it's so ridiculous. And I really think this all
comes down to Bailey's choice of words during the Carl
and JACKIEO interview, because by saying we're just friends, it
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really gives this connotation that Tammy was the one wanting
more and he said no. Last week we did say
that we were surprised that Bailey Smith was allowed to
actually appear on the Carl and Jackie O Show because
it seemed like he'd been told by the Geelong coaching
staff that he needed to focus on football rather than
his personal life. Because I mean, if you're a Geelong fan,
you're gonna be pretty pissed off if he suddenly starts
(06:28):
to perform badly and you're thinking, well, it's because he's
got so much media focus on this new relationship. So
his decision to take part in an interview there was
clearly going to be about Tammy right before the Brownlow.
It didn't really make sense and I'm starting to think
now that it was a strategic move because by being
the one to address the relationship and say we're just friends,
(06:48):
it gave Bailey all of the power. It made it
look like he was the one who pulled the pin
on things. Yeah, and it didn't take long for most
of us, I think us included to show our internalized
misogyny and assume that Tammy was the one who was rejected.
And it's crazy when you reflect on the fact that
Tammy is the one who is the self made millionaire
in this relationship. She's got three successful businesses, yet we
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still inherently measure her success on being chosen by a
man to attend a football event. I mean, an event that,
let's face it, she was too big to attend anyway. Yeah,
I mean there was a reason why everyone was so
excited to see if she stepped on the red carpet
or not, because she would have absolutely eclipsed that event. Yeah.
And it made me reflect on my visceral reaction to
listening to Bailey friend zoning Tammy on the Kyle and
(07:30):
Jackie oshow because I felt sick. It made me feel
embarrassed and kind of reflect on all those times that
I've been rejected by men and sadly, I think it's
just ingrained in us as women to measure our worth
on if a man chooses us. And I think we
all sort of put ourselves in Tammy's shoes. And I
mean I felt very sorry for her, But in reality,
who knows what happened. I mean, Tammy may have said, oh,
(07:51):
I'm sorry, I'm not going to be able to go
to the brown Low. I've got school holidays with my kids.
I've got a holiday booked in. And maybe Bailey was
the one that felt rejected and got on the Kyl
and Jackie Show and was like, oh no, I've friends
owned her. Like, we just don't know what's actually occurred.
We also don't know if they're back on now that
the Grand Final is over, particularly because Bailey Smith and
his team did not win the Grand Finals. Not a
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good day for Famous. I mean, I assume he's probably
on a bit of a bender on Saturday night, so
maybe Tammy might have got a drunken text message. Who knows, well,
as we're recording this on a Monday afternoon, he's currently
on mad Monday. Look. I think that any girl who's
ever dreamed of dating a football and od's it's not
a good time to start things up at the end
of the season. There's just so many parties and carry on.
(08:32):
Mad Monday is probably the worst down the calendar for
every woman who dates an AFL player, like, oh, he'd
be absolutely awful. I remember when we were very much
into the footy guys, when we were you know, nineteen
twenty and anyone from Adelaide knows that you'd always go
to the Grand on a Sunday night at the end
of the footy season because that's where all of the
players would be, but they would be running an absolute mark.
(08:54):
The other hot spot for AFL players was the Marble
Bar back in the day that is now gone. This
is a really this is a really sad confession, but
I remember you used to have to pay to get
into the Marble Bar. I think it was ten dollars,
which would be quite cheap now. And you know, we
were UNI students back then with a part time job.
We're like, I'm not wasting the money. So we would
send one person in to do a lap of the
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marble bar see if there were any footy players in there,
and then the rest of us would invest in going
in there. God, how tragic. Does this sound? It's just
so embarrassing reflecting on how you put these footy players
on this massive pedestal. All the gen Zettas should be
happy though, because they now have access to guys like
Bailey Smith on Tinder instead of having to go to
these awful night clubs or just on Instagram. I think
(09:35):
it's so much easier to slide into dms these days.
Well even with Instagram now, I think it's easier to
slide into the DMS. I am embarrassed to put that
story out there, but I'm confident in doing so because
I know there will be listeners who, you know, ten
years ago, were doing the exact same thing. I think
it's like fifteen years ago, so oh, you forget that.
I'm thirty six. Getting back to Tammy and Bay. Despite
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Bailey claiming to Carl and Jackie O that Tammy's not
a footy fan and she would have been bored at
the Brownlow, it appears she still celebrated Grand Final Day
with her family, so she shared a photo of her
watching the AFL on the big screen along with two
laptops playing rugby and horse racing. She actually posted this
photo to her Instagram grid, So she was keen for
people to know she watched the game. Is she stamping
(10:23):
her authorady back over him? Is that what's going? Well?
The thing is, it's not like it was the full
TV screen, like you kind of had to look at
the photo carefully, but you could see it was halftime
and you could see Geelong and Brisbane and then the
two laptops. Well, in her defense, who's not watching the
ground final? I feel like most people get around it.
What do you think of Snoop Dog? I have to
call myself out. It was very UnAustralian of me. I
(10:44):
did not watch one second of it. I didn't watch
to watch the pregame. So you haven't even seen Snoop
Dog popping up on TikTok. I've seen bits and pieces
of it, But I mean, Snoop Dog doesn't really interest
me like I was interested in Katie Perry. Last year,
we had a family thing because it was my father
in law's birthday, and it was so funny watching my
husband and brother in law flock to the TV to
watch Snoop DOGG like they were like two teenage boys, like,
(11:06):
oh my god. So it's clear that they were going
for a very male dominated audience, and I have to
say I did get quite excited when he slinked out
onto the oval, but then I got bored by it.
Like once they had the first song, I was like,
cause they're not really pump up songs, are they? Very well,
from what I saw, it was very static, like it
didn't really move from the stage. I mean, last year
Katie Perry was being driven around the perimeter of the ground.
(11:29):
I think it's also the fact that Katie Perry has
so many mainstream bangers. Yeah, that I think both genders enjoy.
But I mean, the AFL is very clever because they're
trying to get international eyeballs on the halftime Well, it's
not even halftime performance, it's the pregame performance. And it's
clearly what happened. You can really tell the difference between
say the AFL and the NFL in terms of their
(11:50):
halftime show because back in the day it used to
be just the mascots having a running race. I don't
know if that's still someone reshare And I don't know
how long ago this was that Kath and Kim were
actually part of the pregame entertainment where they did this
comedy skit where they were singing on stage. Oh, that
would have been great, and they're like, Wow, we've come
(12:10):
a long way. I did see on Matsakowski's story the
Snoop Dogg was performing at some club in Melbourne and
he was pretty much front row. Yeah, well, how much
did they pay Snoop Dogg to appear at the nightclub,
because didn't he get five million dollars for the AFL
Grand Final performance?
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:25):
I don't know if he just went rogue and was like,
I'm going to do a set here. We kept joking
that the second the performance was over, he's on his
private jet just counting his money out of there. Well,
on the topic of Matsakowski, I feel like he made
a little bit of a dig at the Tammy Bailey
situation because he posted a photo on his Instagram story
of him celebrating Grand Final day and he was wearing
a Brisbane Bears jersey. So the Brisbane Bears that was
(12:48):
what the Brisbane Lines used to be known as. And
I'm like, oh, he's going for Brisbane. Well, how embarrassing
would it have been if he got around in a
Geelong gun. Well, he is an Essendon supporter, but he's
obviously wasn't backing the Victorian team that day with Bailey
Smith playing for Geelong.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
I didn't even think pregnancy baby until I was complaining
to Kurt. I was like, oh, I'm pretty sure I'm
getting my period back, and he was like, You're not pregnant,
are you.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Sarah's day has been labeled tone deaf after fueling her
own pregnancy rumors. The og fitness influencer has baited a
potential fourth pregnancy twice this month and admitted she was
freaking out over supposed pregnancy symptoms. Kay, can you tell
us more well? At the start of September, Sarah ta
Is on TikTok that she was either pregnant with her
(13:33):
fourth baby or her period was returning. She captured the
video should it be more concerned or do I keep
suppressing my internal freak out? And she spoke in length
about how her pre period and pregnancy symptoms are the same,
but she actually didn't consider that she could be pregnant
until her husband Kurt flagged it with her. She then
said this, I'm not baiting you here.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
I am nine to nine point nine nine nine nine
nine percent sual. I'm not pregnant, and no, I'm not
going to go into the conception conversation because you get
what you get and you don't get upset, meaning.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
I tell you what I want and then we leave
the rest. Okay.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
There's just some things on social media that I feel
like we can just leave. Okay, a little bit TMI
for me, So I'm pretty positive that I cannot get pregnant. Okay,
So just take that and just that's all you get.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
It's quite ironic that she claims she's not baiting anyone,
but started the video saying I could be pregnant with
my fourth baby, like she knows how the TikTok algorithm works.
That's going to make people stop and watch her video well,
particularly because a lot of her followers have been convinced
that she's going to try for baby number four because
she ended up having three boys and it was quite
clear that she was hoping for a girl the third
(14:41):
time around. Yeah, but since she's had her third son, Harlowe,
it's been very clear to me that she does not
want to have the newborn experience again because it's been
very tough for her with him having refluss. Oh, I
can't even imagine having three kids, especially three boys. I
probably have a different opinion to U Kate on this one.
I'm all for the TM. I understand that when it
(15:02):
comes to pregnancy, you've got to be so careful. But
we keep saying that we want influences to be more open,
and people aren't sharing things anymore. I'm really enjoying this
little insight into what's going on behind the scenes because
I think for her, she is very in tune with
her body and she's realized that something is feeling off.
She could choose not to share about it, but isn't
it more interesting that we're hearing about it. I get
(15:24):
where you're coming from. One thing I found really interesting, though,
is the fact that she doesn't want to speak about contraception,
because she started her channel talking about hormonal acne and
coming off the pill, and I got people speculating about, like, well,
why would she just not say what she's using for contraception.
I mean, I don't think she necessarily has to go
into it. Yeah, but when you're based your channel on
(15:44):
talking about things like hormonal acne, and then also recently,
since having children, she's spoken a lot about the process
that she took to try and conceive. It just seems
like a natural thing that she would discuss on her
channel if she's open to talking about fertility, and well,
we all know she loves a natural path, So maybe
she's doing quite a unique, very natural method that she
doesn't want to be promoting to her audience. Yeah, I
(16:06):
think that, I think that could be it now. As expected,
the video gained traction and hit three hundred and twenty
four thousand views on TikTok, which is actually quite a
lot for Sarah on that platform now, despite was saying
she wasn't baiting her followers. A few weeks later, Sarah
uploaded a reel that started like this, There's been a.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Lot happening in my life lately, and last week I
took a pregnancy test and this is not a joke.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
This is real life now. To push the message even further,
Sarah had a text on the screen that said I
took a pregnancy test, and the thumbnail photo of the
video was Sarah holding a pregnancy test. She then spoke
about all the pregnancy symptoms she was experiencing and how
weird it was taking a pregnancy test when she definitely
knows that she's done having children. She even held the
(16:51):
pregnancy test in the frame like it was an advert,
and it was quite strange because it was the brand
first response and I'm so used to seeing influences with
Clear Blue. I was like, hang on, what is this
like the cheaper version. She told me like, well, Clear
Blue aren't paying me and they're playing other influences, so
I'm not going to be putting them in the front
of this video. I was shocked at how many times
this pregnancy test did appear in the shot. It was like,
(17:13):
she's so clever though, because she knows that she's going
to capture people in the second they see the pregnancy test,
even if the sounds down, it's like, okay, well someone's
taking a pregnancy test. I need to know what's happening. Yeah. Well,
it wasn't until around the one minute mark of the
video that she revealed that quote. Thankfully, the test was
negative and she got her first period back since having Harlow,
so all of these symptoms were leading into the fact
(17:34):
that her period was returning for the first time postpartum. God,
I'm still waiting for my first period postpartum. Hopefully it
doesn't come for a while. It did not sound pleasant. No,
they are not fun. Sarah said though, that she was
so adamant that she was pregnant that she kept the
pregnancy test for four days. She then said, this didn't
(17:57):
like it wasn't. I wasn't like, oh my gosh, I
could be pregnant. I was like, oh my gosh, like
purb will drop dead before.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Now.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Kurt is clearly not keen to have baby number four.
I think he was really pushed across the line to
have baby number three. He looks absolutely chaotic in their
household having one. I actually don't understand how people can
go to three. No, it's quite a luxury these days.
Have three kids, though, you're to have a lot of
finances behind you. I had to laugh at one of
the comments under the video, someone wrote, Okay, the Tills
(18:27):
fam hiring a sleep consultant was obviously good for mum
and dad lo. The comments section was really interesting because
I think from Sarah using the word hopefully it's our
last pregnancy scare, it caused a lot of people again
to speculate about the contraception she was using and how
she tracks her cycle. There were a lot of calls
(18:48):
for Kurt to get a vaseectomy. In terms of people
asking why she doesn't track her cycle, I saw that
she responded and said, well, to be fair, I didn't
have anything to track. Yeah, And she spoke about how
with her second son, Malachi, it took like twenty two
months or something like that for a period to return,
so this is fairly early for her in her postpartum journey.
There were a lot of people labeling the pregnancy baiting
(19:09):
as tone deaf. What did you think? So? Look, I
was pretty surprised to see the video pop up because
people nowadays are being so careful with anything relating to pregnancy.
It can be very triggering for some people. That's why
I didn't think that she would share something like that. Yeah,
and I think it was the way the pregnancy test
was used as a prop, like it was so overtly done.
(19:31):
It was clear she was trying to build engagement. That
video attracted one point four million views on Instagram, so
it clearly worked. And on the other side of things,
I'm sort of all for videos where influencers really do
give you an insight into what's going on, because the
influencer space is becoming boring when people don't share about
what's really going on in their lives. Yeah, but the
news was that her period had returned. It wasn't about
(19:53):
being pregnant. She knew before she filmed that video that
she wasn't pregnant, but the news also was that she
thought she was. And she's a content creator. She creates
engaging videos that people want to click on, and that's
her job. Look, I think I found it quite jarring
because pregnancy and fertility is such a sensitive topic. So
I think I was sort of like, Oh, this just
(20:13):
seems so overt to the pregnancy baiting. When you look
at the fact that she's also just about to launch
a new fitness challenge, it's clear that she is wanting
as many eyeballs to her page as possible. So she
has been accused in the past of trying to generate
controversy when she's about to drop something new. Yeah, that's
a really good point. So we have spoken on the
podcast about her fitness challenge. It's called five sixty. Sarah
(20:35):
has announced its launching on the ninth of October, which
I found a pretty bold move because she's spoken openly
about the fact that she still needs to shoot the
workout content for the challenge. She tried to film it
the other day and her son Harlowe was awake, so
she's like, should I just film it with him? I
haven't been game enough to try and do a workout
with my son Lucra. I feel like he is too
small at the moment. But I feel like that'd be
(20:56):
very challenging, particularly filming it. Oh, it would be so
for could it would be an absolute nightmare. Have you
seen the photo Sarah used to announce a launch date.
I have, and I don't mean to sound like a weirdo,
but I think what was in focus the most was
her crutch. Oh. I was like, why is this just
a shot of her crutch? So, for those who haven't
seen the photo, she is standing in this pose with
(21:20):
her arms outstretched above her head and is kind of
from her thighs upwards and her hips are pushed forward
to make her abs pop, and the photo's taken from
like blow so it really focuses on her crutch. And
it turns out her husband, Kurt Tills, took the photo
and it was pretty funny because someone wrote in the comments,
(21:41):
I saw this pic and immediately knew it was Kurt.
He has a distinctive style that I like, and I
was just loving it's of her crutch. It's clear she's
trying to get her community involved in this project and
feel like it's something they're working on together, because she
asked her followers to help select the logo for the
challenges Instagram account, and off the back of that, I
went to see just how many followers the five sixty
(22:03):
Challenge now has, and I was really shocked because it
had one hundred and twenty seven thousand followers. Yeah, I
saw it and was like, God, Jezus must be bigger
than I thought. Yeah, But then when I actually did
some digging, if you look at the tag photos, it
turns out that she's just converted her defunct health Code
podcast page into the new five sixty Challenge account. I
(22:23):
mean no shade, because if you're a business owner and
you have access to one hundred and twenty seven thousand
people on an account that you no longer use, of
course you're going to utilize it. But it does tell
me that the podcast is not coming back. And I
really enjoyed the health Code podcast in the early days. Yeah,
she's really put a line through that podcast. It's interesting though,
because she's used this method before. So she also had
an Instagram account for her defunct cooking app called Sonny,
(22:46):
and that account has now been turned into something called
the Sarah's Day Wellness Hub. So I reckon on the
five sixty challenge account that is purely going to be
focused on her sharing her journey of doing the challenge
and then maybe highlighting some community members who have had
success stories and these really good results. Yeah, I feel
like the more of the marketing I see, it's validating
my original fears that this is just going to be
(23:07):
an old school, toxic fitness challenge. I've seen the term
rules and no quitting used quite a lot, which is
a little bit of a concern. Do we think now
that she's definitely not going to have a fourth child,
she is re entering her fitness era. I mean, she
keeps saying she's definitely not going to have a fourth child,
but I would not be surprised in a couple of
years time if they have an accident child. I think
(23:28):
they're setting it up saying, oh, you know, with' having
all these pregnancy scares, like we're not really clear on
what contraception we're using. I don't think so the way
that Kurt reacted, I don't think if you're reacting like that,
if you're gunning for baby numberfore. Oh, Kurt doesn't want
baby number four, but I think Sarah potentially could after
she's recovered from having a baby with reflux. I think
(23:49):
she really wants a girl. Hi. Everyone, that's Tyson Fury
and she's Paris Fury, and today we're going to play
a little game of mister and missus. Over the weekend,
Tyson Fury's daughter Venezuela generated headlines after she got engaged
at her sixteenth birthday party. So if the announcement sent
shockquaves across social media, yeah, I mean engagement announcements always
(24:12):
do well on Instagram, but this one did particularly well.
It generated over one point eight million views. Now in
the video, Venezuela, who has one hundred and ninety eight
thousand followers, shared a close up of her new engagement
ring and wrote We're getting married. So happy and tagged
her new fiance Noah Price. Now. Venezuela's mum, Paris Fury,
(24:33):
who is married to the famous boxer, also broke the
news to her one point nine million followers, sharing the
moment that Noah popped the question, and I have to
say that this is probably one of the most awkward
proposal videos I have ever seen. It is very evident
that the two are very young, so in the video,
Noah got down on one knee on this empty dance floor.
(24:55):
There were a handful of family members who were looking on,
and at one point a random jo I'll just walk
past the proposal. It was also quite a lackluster reaction
from party goers. It's interesting to have the insight from
the Furies doco because I remember seeing them getting ready
for these big parties, and even though they spent so
much money on them, they just looked like your typical
(25:16):
chavvy English event that was boring with lots of kids there. Yeah. Well,
what was also very uncomfortable about this proposal video was
that they looked uncomfortable showing affection in front of their
family and friends. Sixteen. Yeah, they gave this uncomfortable hug
and then Noah sort of gave her a kiss on
the cheek. It seemed like she knew it was coming, though,
(25:37):
because she was wearing this sparkly white two piece outfit.
It looked like a very engagement outfit. Well, I was thinking, well,
surely Noah has asked Tyson and Paris for their daughter's
hand in marriage, considering she's only sixteen, But Paris admitted
to her followers that she was shocked but happy for
the young couple. She wrote, congratulations Venezuela and Noah and
getting engaged. Both only young, but when you know you know,
(26:00):
still in shock, but very happy for you. Both Me
and your dad couldn't be prouder. When I first saw
this video popping up on TikTok, there were a lot
of questions about how old her new fiance, say Noah,
actually was, because the consensus was that he looked a
lot older than Venezuela. But he is in fact seventeen
years old, and funnily enough, he is actually an up
and coming boxer like her dad and also her famous
(26:22):
uncle Tommy Fury, so he is pretty built for a teenager,
which I think made him look a lot older as
you can expect. Paris Fury's comment section blew up, with
Venezuela's auntie Molly May, writing congratulations, special girl. Not everyone
was as happy, though, One follower wrote, this child is sixteen,
Paris and Tyson, you have worked so hard to give
your children a better life. Let your daughter see the world,
(26:42):
not tie herself down to a boy madness. Now. That
comment received over four hundred likes. Another follower wrote, this
just looks so awkward and like they're both embarrassed, which
just proves they're far too young to be making such
a huge commitment to each other. Another said, regardless of age,
this is the most awkward like we've ever seen. There
was a follower who told people not to be haters
(27:04):
and pointed out that Paris got with Tyson at her
sixteenth birthday and that they're still together, so it would
be a fun fact. Paris is only thirty five and
Tyson is thirty seven, which blows my mind. I can't
imagine being the mother of a bride at this age.
I mean, even if the bride is sixteen. We have
to remember that the Tyson family are travelers, so it
(27:24):
is tradition for travelers to marry young. There is generally
not a large time span between puberty and marriage, so
the typical age for a female traveler is sixteen to
seventeen and for male travelers eighteen to nineteen. So when
you look at it with that perspective, it does make
a lot more sense. Well, I remember in The Furies
docco that Venezuela was pulled out of school at thirteen
(27:45):
so she could follow her mum around and learn how
to be a housewife basically. Well, a lot of female
travelers don't go to school at all. Yeah, that was
something that Tommy and Molly had to talk about because
it seemed like Tommy wanted and be to have quite
a traditional lifestyle. But Molly's like, no, she's definitely going
to school. Well, it seems like it's going to be
(28:06):
a long engagement for Venezuela and Noah because in February
twenty twenty three, the legal age changed for marriage in England,
so previously, if you were sixteen you could get married
if you had parental permission. However, that is no longer
the case. I think it's probably good it's going to
be a bit of a long engagement. The two might
get to know each other a bit more before. I mean,
(28:27):
they might actually work up to not being embarrassed to
kiss at the altar by eighteen. Well, I think that
is all we have time for today. Thank you so
much for joining us for this episode, and for those
of you playing at home, who are wondering why I'm
here on a Tuesday. You're not meant to be human
to be a maternity leader. Yeah, we are having a
bit of a rejig, so I will be on every
Tuesday episode and am we will be back for Friday's episodes.
So we thought it was a bit more consistency for everyone,
(28:51):
a bit easier to plan our days. Yeah, and depending
on how organized we are, you will most likely be
on Outspoken Plus, which is our subscription channel, so we
drop new episodes for scribers every Thursday, which is basically
an extension of this show. So on Thursday, we are
going to be talking about Maddie Jay and Laura Burns's
new baby, Poppy. There's been a bit of a controversy
around her name because Mattie Jay did actually drop the
(29:14):
name ahead of the birth. We'll also be discussing how
Indy Clinton's spark debate about how much money kids should
receive from the Tooth Fairy. We're also going to be
talking about the AI photos that Kate Cassidy shared of
her and her boyfriend Liam Payne. This comes almost a
year after his death. Oh my god, how is that
a year ago? Time? Is absolutely flying. It's still so
heartbroken about it. It's just devastating. Well, I don't really
(29:36):
like wrapping things up on a low point, but that
is where we're going to leave things today. If you
do enjoy the show, we would really appreciate it if
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