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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
Kate Torbert and coming up on today's show, Steph Claire
Smith defends her husband's decision to go on a boy's
trip while she looks after their newborn. Molly May's untouchable
status is under threat, and Love Island UK's big revival
(00:21):
thanks to TikTok booth First Grace Episcopo has divided the
Internet by taking part in the You're So Funny TikTok
trend at an influencer event. For those not familiar with
this trend, content creators respond to the question You're so
funny with thanks, and then they share an anecdote explaining
what shape their sense of humor.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
And it often can be quite dark.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
So some people bring up childhood traumas or their mental
health struggles, and Gracie's response ended up being very dark.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
This is what she said, Thanks, my ex's in jail now.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
If that was too quick for people, she does say thanks,
my ex is in jail now. Gracie is, of course
referring to her ex, Andre Ribello. They were in a
relationship for around eight years and had a child together
before he was arrested in twenty twenty on suspicions of
murdering his mother. Yeah, So in April, he was found
guilty and sentenced to life in prison. So prosecutors alleged
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that Andre killed his own mother to claim her one
point one five million dollar life insurance policy, and this
was apparently to keep up with his influencer lifestyle. Yeah,
because at the time of the murder, Andre and Gracie
were in significant debt that exceeded one hundred thousand dollars.
It's important to note that Gracie has never been accused
of any wrongdoing and there is no evidence that she
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knew anything about Andre's crime, and she really did distance
herself from Andre during the trial and for the last
two years she's been dating Daniel Classen's Now. In terms
of Gracie's comment, we put it out to Outspoken's audience
and asked was it funny or insensitive? And it was
split right down the middle. How did you feel about it? Look,
I get that she was trying to be funny, but
(02:00):
I think it comes across as insensitive because somebody has
lost their life like this is a real person.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
This is the grandmother of her child.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Yeah, and I think it's the way it was presented
that made me feel uncomfortable. It's obviously been said for
shock factor, which will drive a lot of engagement, but
it was actually posted by a brand, so yeah, and
I think under the circumstances, as you mentioned, it would
be really upsetting for Colleen Robello's family. That's been used
as a bit of a punchline in order to get
social media engaged.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
I mean there were other big name influences in this video.
Tammy Hembro was in it and she said, well, thanks,
I'm going through a divorce now. That was funny, Like
that is actually a good one to mention because it's
her poking fun at herself.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Or was tongue in cheek.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
I mean, it might not be great for Matt to
see it, but I think it's a lot different to
poking fun at someone who has died, particularly Gracey Piscoppo's
son's grandmother. I mean, I understand a lot of people
were saying, oh, it's a coping mechanism for Gracie, and
you know, we don't know how she's feeling at all.
But I think it was distasteful, and if I was
Grace's pr manager, I would say steer clear of this topic,
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never talk publicly on it, particularly after all the media
coverage which said that Andre's motive for killing his mother
was to maintain this influencer lifestyle, because even though she
had nothing to do with it, it still reflects badly
on her.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yeah, you want to distance yourself from that completely.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
I wonder if the brand told her, like gave her
the idea of saying that comment.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Well, even if they did, she still doesn't have to
say it.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Surely you would be like, no, that is completely wrong
of me to say in this joky manner. And then
Billy and I heading to whom so I'm so excited.
Oh my god, They've booked me in for a massage
and a bath this afternoon. Steph Clare Smith has sparked
debate after revealing her family's unorthodox holiday plans. The fitness
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entrepreneur shared that her husband Josh was off on a
boy's snow trip to New Zealand, while she checked into
a gifted stay at a postpartum hotel with their newborn
Billy As for their four year old son, Harvey Well
he's staying with his grandparents at the family's eight million
dollar Murray River property.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Straight off the back.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
This just sounds like rich people problems to me. But
on a more serious note, it has sparked debate around
gender roles and support for primary parents. Now. These unconventional
holiday plans came off the back of a partnership deal
Steph struck with a postpartum hotel called Home And it
turns out Josh was originally going to stay at the
hotel too, but Steph said she was happy for him
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to holiday with his mates because he really needed the
time allway. As for Harvey, he couldn't stay at the
hotel because it doesn't accommodate for kids over twelve months old,
So in a bid to ensure he didn't feel left out,
Steph came up with the idea for him to have
his own little holiday. She finished off by saying, we've
all got some time to ourselves, filling up our cups now.
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A day later, Steph revealed that she had received a
DM from a follower questioning Josh's need to holiday with friends.
The DM said, but why does your h spend need
time with mates?
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Like?
Speaker 1 (05:01):
What about you doesn't sound at all like alone time
for you, nor a vacation for you. Like I could
never imagine my husband going on a snow trip with
friends while I'm with the newborn baby, Like what the fuck?
He's always either with me or the babies. Also, not
to mention, you're like the one who works on top
of it all. Sorry, but that doesn't feel right. I
can't imagine now. Steph admitted that the DM rattled her
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and went on to defend her and Josh's decision. Interestingly,
she turned it into a conversation about the need to
support primary parents and for those who don't know, Josh
actually took on the role of stay at home dad
when Harvey was born, while Steph returned to work full time.
Yeah so, Steph declared that dad's lives changed too when
they become parents, and it doesn't mean they don't deserve
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time to themselves or with friends. So she went on
to explain that Josh feels very isolated being a stay
at home dad because most of his friends work full time.
She wrote, so I've always encouraged him to book in
some time out of the house and to connect with friends,
and the same goes for me. When I'm not working,
I'm craving me time, slash alone time and or time
with friends to recharge. Josh does so much to support
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me and our family. He is constantly putting us first.
So I'm sorry, but he absolutely does deserve this time away.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
I'm going to be honest.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
My initial reaction to this story was that Josh shouldn't
be going overseas on a boy's trip when he has
a newborn.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I thought the optics were really bad.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Yeah, I think that most people would see that and
go what the fuck? Like, why is he leaving when
the baby's only very young? However, I think Steph brought
up some really good points. Yeah, and originally it didn't
surprise me that a follower pushed back and said, I
can't believe you're letting him go. But then when I
read Steph's explanation, it really made me question my initial
response because when she spoke about how Josh was feeling isolated,
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it really hit a chord with me because I've been
feeling very similar for a year now. I've never joined
a mum's group, and none of my close friends have
had children until recently, so I know what it's like
to be the parent that's at home and you're waiting
for your husband to get home, and you don't really
go out that often. You don't spend a lot of
time with people. So when you do have time to
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spend with friends, it's so important. Well for Josh as well,
because most of his friends were actually at work, they
weren't being stay at home dads. He probably wouldn't have
had that opportunity to even join a parenting group. Are
there even dad's groups out there? No, I don't think
there are. And it really opened my eyes and made
me think, well, this is quite a unique situation because
Josh is going to be the primary caregiver for Billy,
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their newborn baby, and he's in the position where he's
not the breastfeeding parent, so he can actually have a
little bit of time away from the baby because Steph
has chosen to exclusively breastfeed. He can have a little
bit of recharge time while Steph is at this hotel,
and then he's going to be back in the full
swing of things when Steph is.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Back at work with the newborn. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
I mean, you've got to do what's best for you
and your family. It seems like Josh might be burnt
out and he needs that trip away with friends in
order to bunker down because Steph is going to be
back at work soon and then the responsibility of looking
after Billy in the day is going to be all
on him. And I think it's pretty clear that Steph
and Josh have been really open with each other on
what they want and need from this current dynamic. I'm
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guessing this could have been.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Guided by a therapists because Steph.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
And Josh have been open that they've been working with
a couple's counselor around navigating Steph's recent ADHD diagnosis. They
even had their own couples counseling session on Steph's podcast,
So it's likely this was a part of negotiations for
Josh to continue to be the stay at home parent
and that's allowing him to spend time with friends because
just ten months ago, he was holidaying with his mates
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in Europe, just before Steph announced her pregnancy. I think
a lot of people read into that because it's not
really the norm for couples to have holidays without each other,
But I think it has a lot to do with
the fact that they're absolutely loaded. Yeah, they're able to
echo on these holidays away from each other. Well, I
suppose with normal people, if you're going to go on holiday,
you're saving up all year and going on one with
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your family, Whereas when you have a lot of money,
you can go on multiple holidays.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
You can go on.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Boys trips, girls trips, family trips. Is it funny the
way though, that people judge Josh because in that initial
message that that follower sent Steph, they said, oh, and
you're having to go back to work, and can you
imagine if the roles were reversed, it's sort of diminishing
the role of a stay at home parent. Yeah, it's
so hypocritical because at one point they're saying, I can't
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believe Josh has left you at home to do everything,
But in the next breath they're saying, oh, well, the
role of a stay at home dad's not even that hard,
and you're the one earning all the money. Like it's like, well,
pick aside. And it's interesting to consider what this conversation
would have been like if it was a mother going
on an overseas girl's trip and leaving a newborn with
the dad. I think it's pretty fair to say the
woman would have been slammed even more, even if the
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plan was for her to be the primary caregiver once
she's back and for her husband to return to work.
As we discussed last week, the absolute crap that Abby
Holmes copped for actually going back to work, not even
going on a holiday, but for returning to the workplace.
So maybe it's fair that Josh did cop it because
if it was a woman, he'd be also copying it.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Hash tag equality. I think it's just.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Difficult for everyone to disconnect the gender roles from the
equation at the moment. Well, the end of the day,
if Steph doesn't have an issue with it, what's the problem. Yeah,
On a different note, how did you feel about Steph
Clesmith being gifted a stay at this postpartum hotel. I've
seen this hotel popping up everywhere. So they were recently
featured on an episode of the Baby Talk podcast, and
(10:28):
they're obviously doing some great pr Oh. I mean, yeah,
of course there'd be other mums that would be really
deserving of this and would really appreciate it. Considering you know,
we've mentioned a few times Steph's wealth. She obviously has
a very nice house that she could be staying in.
But from a marketing perspective, it's a great move to
have Steph there. I mean, how many more people would
have learnt about this luxury boutique hotel because of this partnership.
(10:50):
In terms of her house, she doesn't actually have a
particularly nice house at the moment. They're bulldozing it and
they're renovating their shed. But I get what you mean.
She has the support where she could pay to stay
at this hotel because it does cost one three hundred
dollars a night. Yeah, so she could have paid for
it herself. She also could be poor. She could have
but like, if they're giving it for free as part
of this partnership, I mean, they're probably paying her to
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promote it as well. I can see my people were
a little bit annoyed about it, because I think Steph
has been really open about the fact that she has
a lot of help from her parents. She also has
the means to pay for cleaners, which she does. She
could have a night nurse, a night nanny.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
No.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I completely understand that.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
I can understand the frustration by people, but I also
can see why this particular boutique hotel has chosen Steph
Claire Smith to promote it because she has such a
large audience.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
It makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Yeah, and I can see why she has allowed Josh
to go on this overseas trip, considering that she is
getting help around the clock at this postpartum hotel. It's
not like she's stuck at home by herself looking after
her newborn.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Yeah, hang on a minute, are you mind that?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:55):
You're not my meg exactly. Do not come on here
walking up to me trying to get you five minutes
on TV been I met you and all them other girls.
You're just jealous because I don't even want to get
to know you. That's the only reason that you're causing
problems for me and my mad Like. We're absolutely find like,
we don't need you to tell us wish whether we
should be open or closed or whatever. You're just chalous
because you'll never be me or by ma.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Love Island UK is having a revival. Despite its lagging
TV numbers, The twelfth season of the series, which is
set to conclude next week, has instead captivated social media audiences.
I have been living for this season of UK Love Island.
I wasn't really keen on it last year. It didn't
captivate me, no, but every night I'm excited to watch it.
(12:36):
And the producers need a pat on the back because
they have made some.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Tweaks like the sleepover to create extra.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Drama early on, and I've never seen a season like it.
There is constant couple changing and also the casting has
been excellent because the dynamic between the girls. Often on
Love Island, all the.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Girls have each other's back and they're.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Best friends, but there is this standoff between two groups
of women that causes so much tension. Well, it really
has been the make it or break it season for
Love Island. Before it aired, there was a lot of
talk about whether the show was going to get canned
because the ratings have been low, and that's why I
was really surprised when I looked up this season's ratings
and saw that it actually wasn't doing that well, like
(13:19):
as well as I expected. Yeah, so the season launch
was pretty successful. It got two point six million viewers,
which was almost double the audience of twenty twenty three's
low of one point three million.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
The first week, though it really lagged. It looked like
it was.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Going to be a bomb, but it's now getting similar
viewership figures to season eight, which was the successful season
with Ecnsuit and David eight. The numbers are a long
way off twenty nineteen's Heyday, though, when six million people
tuned in to see the finale of Molly Mays series.
It's also been competing with the seventh season of the
US version, which has had massive success. The big difference
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now is that the way we watch reality TV has
completely changed to TikTok, and when you look at Love
Island social media stats, its growth online has surpassed its
success on TV. So Love Island has gained one point
eight million followers since the start of twenty twenty five,
with a million of those on TikTok. It also has
a collective following of thirteen million followers over its various
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official accounts. So it turns out people are really interested
in Love Island, but they just can't commit to watching
the TV show every night, so the short form updates
are really appealing. Is this because TikTok has ruined our
attention spans? We can't even sit through an episode of
Love Island. It's funny because I saw a lot of
people saying, oh, I can't commit to watching it every night,
but I can watch the updates on TikTok. It's like,
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I bet you you're still sitting.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
In front of your TV screen and you just scroll.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
But it is summer in England, so people are out
and about more so it makes sense that they're able
to actually keep abreast of what's going on TikTok instead. Well,
it does make sense because when you miss an episode,
you're like, oh my god, I'm behind. I don't understand
the discourse that's going on on social media, and I
think that's a big draw of Love Island at the
moment you want to be in on the disc I
think as well, because there are so many episodes each week.
(15:02):
Because I started watching Love Island UK late and when
I finally watched the first episode, I think there was
something like thirty other episodes I needed to catch up on,
and often you think, fuck, can I actually get through
that many episodes to get up to date?
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Is there a point? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Like it can be quite an intimidating fee. I mean
I have been getting through them quite quickly. I disappointed
You're only up to Cassa Moore. You have so much
more to go, which I'm kind of jealous of because
I'm completely up to date. I've just watched The Grafties.
Oh my god, the Grafties. Yeah, is that like an
award show? Yeah, they have the award show. They've introduced
it fairly recently, and it's just a way for the
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producers to air clips of people talking behind each other's
backs and cause so much drama.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
It has cause chaos.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
But do you think with so many reality shows, like
even if you think back to the US series of
The Bachelor, you had to put in that grind early on.
You know, the first couple of episodes, it's a bit boring,
the characters are being introduced, and then it gets so good.
It's like jen Zea's don't have the attention spend actually
put in that hard way.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
W they're not putting it in the effort.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Yeah, the thing is they are missing out because Okay, yeah,
you can watch the best clips on TikTok, but you're
not getting the experience of the actual show. I do
draw the line at watching the unseen bits episodes.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
I don't want to see this shit.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
I think there's a lot of content creators who need
a metal for ensuring that Love Island is sticking around
because while there's you know, the funny or dramatic moments
of the show that go viral, a lot of the
videos are also created by people completely disconnected with the show.
They're the people at home who are doing recaps or
making funny clips. We need to share the best Love
(16:40):
Island tiktoks because there's this one comedian who keeps posting
stuff about Dejon Yeah, and he's like.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
My meg my mug. It is so fucking funny.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
That guy is fucking hilarious. There is a little bit
of a downside to it when you consider a lot
of reality TV contestants used to complain about the edit
and how, oh, you're only seeing such a small part
of me in this hour episode. But when you consider
that now people are consuming Love Island via like thirty
seven clips, you can imagine that people are being completely
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villainized and you're really not getting a full picture of
who the person is. Well, have you had a look
at the contestants' Instagram accounts this year, like have they
gone off? Well, one contestant that has completely gone off,
which actually surprised me, is Yasmine. So she wasn't very
popular when she came in as a bombshell. But she's
actually been nicknamed on TikTok yazz GPT because I mean
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recent I were discussing it and so from Brandon were
also on the same page, were.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Like, she seems like AI. Like she's very.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Robotic, she is like her, she's got the best posture.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Well like, it's literally like.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
They've sent in an AI bot because she wasn't very
empathetic either, And basically that's what everyone has been saying online.
And this video of her giving posture lessons has gone
viraless howd over a mine in views And they recently
did a vote on the show who was the most
popular contestant and I was shocked when it was Yasmin
And then it all makes sense.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
It's because of TikTok.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Yeah, because Love Island made the decision a few years
ago not to tag the Islanders in a lot of
their content because they wanted to stop them getting bullied online,
and this really stemmed the flow of a lot of
the contestants attracting followers. It's interesting, though, because it's no
longer that someone is just popular on the show. They
have to now have some sort of viral moment to
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get really big, and that's what we've seen with Yasmin.
So it's really interesting to consider the way of how
these people are now building followings. Because Molly May was
really popular on her series of Love Island, but I
wouldn't say she would have had some viral moment that
would have seen her TikTok explode.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
So now we're.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Actually seeing contestants get really popular that you wouldn't expect. Yeah,
but is that going to have longevity then, because it
seems like a bit of a fickle follow like it
doesn't seem like with Molly people follow her because they
have seen her on Love Island.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
They genuinely like cave.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
If you've seen five minutes of someone with good posture,
you're probably going to give him a sneaky follow, but
then forget about them.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
I think it just.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Plays into the saturated market that is the influencer space
at the moment. Also, the way these clips are going
viral that are completely out of context to how they
were meant. And I've been seeing a lot of YouTubers
complain about this occurrence too, where something they've said in
a long form YouTube video has been completely taken out
of context and they're trolled and they just don't want
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to actually post content anymore. Have you seen that meme
floating around of Harrison at the airport with his mum
and she looks like an older version of Tony? I haven't,
but you told me about it. Amy, who's your favorite
guy on Love Island at the moment? Now you're right
to Castromrey. I mean, I like Harry for entertainment purposes,
but like, he's a complete dickhead. If I had to
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actually choose any of them to couple up with, I
don't know who I choose, because even someone like Tommy,
he's apparently meant to be nice, but.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
I'm like, I don't know. Just something about him gives
me the itck.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
See, I've decided because Reson and I were like, who
would you pick? I actually need to find out who
he would, but I would pick Connor.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
I love Connor. Oh yeah, Connor's really nice. He's growing
on me.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
I love the accent as well. I was just sad
that Megan left so early on.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Because oh buck, Amy, Oh she's.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Oh okay, that makes so much sense, because I was like,
why the fuck would they waste her?
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Like why would they have? Okay?
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Cool?
Speaker 5 (20:19):
I will get to the end of summer having not
done one fun thing.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Followers have slammed Molly May, labeling her out of touch
after she complained in a recent vlog that she hasn't
done one fun thing this summer now. This is despite
Molly sitting center court at Wimbledon during a brand trip
with evy, On, holidaying in the Isle of Man with
Tommy Fury in his new eighty six thousand pound camper van,
and celebrating her twenty sixth birthday in Disneyland. TikTok has
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been flooded with videos critiquing Molly, with one user saying
she needs to spend more time with real people who
work nine to five jobs to get a grasp on reality.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
Molly May feels like she's not had any fun this summer.
She doesn't know real people. When you do not surround
yourself or go to an office or hang out with
people who are struggling to pay their counsel, tax bill
or juggling a millionaire one kids, when you don't meet
real people with real problems, you become isolated in your
own little world and in your own little bubble, and
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you find every single thing that goes wrong in your life,
the biggest inconvenience.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Look, I get where people are coming from, because there's
nothing more infuriating when you see an influencer who is
so out of touch with reality. But I need to
defend Molly May here because I watched the full flog
and her comments have been taken out of context because
she made these comments after she watched her sister's Zoe
get all dressed up to head out with friends, and
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the comment was in reference to her not doing anything
fun with her friends, like she acknowledged, Oh, I've been
on brand trips, but she said she hasn't really got
dressed up because she's been at home with Bambi, And
I think she was kind of feeling sorry for herself
because she'd had a really tough week with her and
sometimes you know when you just feel like you're at
home permanently looking like shit. I mean, it seems like
she's been a victim of this TikTok trend that we
(22:05):
were talking about with Love Island, where influencers log will
get clipped up into a thirty second grab and then
everyone in the comments goes wild. Yeah, and do you
remember back in twenty twenty, she made headlines when she
was on Dire OVERSEEO because.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Not a good move.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
But she spoke about how she only has a handful
of friends and it's very rare for her to go
out and socialize with people. Look, I've got a soft
spot for Molly, I have to admit that, and I
do hate it when people are taken out of context
and completely slammed. But then you are putting your highlight
reel out at Disneyland, Senapaure, Wimbled and all these events
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that would absolutely make someone summer. So to then say, oh,
but I haven't got to spend time with my friends.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Yeah, but you've done a lot of other cools.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Yeah, but I also think that a lot of people
are piling onto Molly May and also her sister Zoe.
We spoke about it in our Subs episode how Zoe
Ray had only lasted forty eight hours in Bali because
basically she said it didn't live up to all of
the hype on social media and that we've you zoomed
out of all the beautiful coffee shops. It wasn't it
basically wasn't very nice and people have been absolutely slamming her.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
I mean, I love Balley. I think she needed to
give it more of a go.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
But I think that Zoe's comments haven't helped, and now
people are going, well, they're not one of us. Well again,
those comments were clipped up on TikTok and people ran
wild in the comments. I think though, that Molly and
Zoe are both massive influencers in the UK, and maybe
they need to be more careful and have someone actually
view their content before it goes live.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
It. Zoe is clearly aware of it, because in a
follow up vlog she mentioned how she wished she'd worn
something a bit nicer in her Bari vlog because she
knew that those clips were going to go viral on TikTok.
I think maybe they purposely leave this stuff in because
it actually makes them relevant. I mean, these days, influencers
are scared to say anything because of the backlash, but
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it only really helps in increase their profiles and keeps
people interested in what they're talking about.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
I saw publications being like, is this the end of
Molly May? She's so out of touch someone ninety percent
of influences. That's why we follow them.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Because we want you to live vicariously through that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Also the references to people saying that, oh, Molly went
on this trip to the Isle of Man in Tommy's
sixty eight thousand or eighty six thousand dollar camp event.
That trip sounded fucking awful. That's probably why she was
so depressed after it, because she said that they went
on this car fairy with Bambi, and normally Bambie is
in this strict routine, but they thought, oh no, well,
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you know, we'll just give it a go. She screamed
the whole way on the fairy. She didn't get to
sleep till two am. It sounded like an absolute nightmare.
That's the thing though, because she's also now being attacked
for recent commentary she made about parenting, and that's because
she's opened up about her struggles with Bambi, So it
seems she can't win. It's like, on one end, you
be relatable and you're accused of winging, and then you say,
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oh my summer actually wasn't that great, even though I
got to go to all of these events, and you're
out of touch. Yeah, well, one TikToker. She's gone viral.
She's a self confessed stan of Molly. But she said
even she was irritated by Molly's complaints. Let's have a
listen to what she said.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
I was slightly agitated by how much she was frustrated
with Bambie. The things that all of our kids do right,
Like she doesn't finish all of her dinner, she had
a meltdown, she wants to sit on my lap, like
she just I just sensed the energy that she's just
getting frustrated with being a mom. Maybe I don't know
if she's forstrated with being a mum. I don't know
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if she's frustrated because Bambi acts like a toddler, not
as like an aesthetic prop. Maybe I don't.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
I'm just throwing wild accusations out there.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
I think that comment about Molly being frustrated that Bambie
wasn't some aesthetic prop was a bit of a low blow.
Has she seen Indy Clinton's content? It's actually better if
your kids are wild, It's more entertaining. Like that is
a specific niche on social media where people love seeing
kids be naughty. I actually found it really refreshing Molly
opening up about her struggles with Bambi. I think sometimes
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people forget that Molly is twenty six. I mean, she's
the first time mum. It's tough as it is. I mean,
would people prefer her to be acting as if everything
was okay and magical. I think at the moment we're
seeing such a reckoning with children being online, and I
think that she is getting this camp of people who
are like, you shouldn't be sharing Bambi. I mean recently
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there was a clip of Bambi urinating on the carpet
that went viral, and I think that hasn't helped the
situation where people being like, just stop sharing too much
about her online. And I think that's cascaded with people
being like, oh, stop winging about her, stop complaining about it.
As an adult, she's going to see this content. I
saw that TikTok, and I mean, I do think it's
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sharing too much by talking about.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Bambi wing on the carpet.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
But I had to laugh because her poor cat's Eggy
and Bread they have been blamed for urinating on her
cup for freaking months.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
And I saw one.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Comment that said something like poor eggiye and bread coppying
the blame.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
And I think we all know who the culprit is.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Being well again in that clip, Molly was slammed because
her sister Zoe was seen disciplining Bambi. Yeah, she kind
of took on the role of saying, oh, why did
you do it? You're not meant to do it, whereas
Molly kind of sat back and just filmed what happened.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Well, a lot of people have also been asking where
is Tommy? And Molly shared a new vlog on Monday
and she addressed a lot of this backclash, and she
also spoke about Tommy and she said, well, he is
there eighty to ninety percent of the time, but I'm
choosing not to vlog when he's around because obviously them
getting back together is quite new. And she said, well,
the other time, Zoe is with me and she's living
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with me, so of course she's helping me. I think
this backclash was always going to happen, because if you
reflected this time last year in August, she and Tommy
broke up and everyone felt so sorry for her. She
was put on this pedestal. She was compared to Princess Diana.
She was the people's princess, and since her docco aired
and news broke that she was back with Tommy Fury.
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A lot of people have got their backs up about it,
and we also got an insight into the fact that
Zoe does not like Tommy, so then that's going to
add more fuel to the fire, like, oh well, why
is Zoe parenting and Tommy's not there. We mentioned the
pedestal that Molly's on. I mean, this story made its
way from TikTok to the UK papers. So in this
recent vlog that Molly shared, she had four pap cars
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following her this week trying to get the first snap
of verse since this controversy broke. I love you say
that was surprised. It's like media just scoured TikTok now
for any.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Sort of post.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
It was really clear in this video that Molly was
grappling with how much to actually share about Bambi and
that these comments had really gotten into her head because
at the start of ev log she was in the
car with Bambi crying because she was so frustrated, but
didn't really share any details of what had happened.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
And at the end of herv.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Log Molly said, look, I'm actually really bad with keeping secrets,
like you can just tell on my face. She said,
I was worried about going into further detail about what
had happened because of all the judgment online, and she
explained that she felt so suffocated by the fact that
she couldn't open up to avlog about what was going
on and has decided that she is just going to
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be honest moving forward. It's interesting because it seems like
this is a two way transaction for Molly and her followers.
A lot of people have come out and said, I
feel seen Molly when you talk about this type of stuff.
And for Mollie, she's obviously getting a lot of messages
back saying oh, I'm the same, and she gets validation
through that. So I think she just needs to keep
sharing that content if it makes her feel good and
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it's making other people feel good, and shut out the
comments on TikTok. I know that would be difficult. Yeah, well,
I think that's all we've got time for today. Thank
you so much for listening to another episode of Outspoken,
And if you do enjoy our content, we drop a
subscriber only episode every Thursday, which is basically an extension
of our show where we talk more about influencer topics
(29:52):
from the week. Also on Friday, we are dropping part
one of our two part series on Freely the Banana Girl.
I'm very excited for that to finally air. This podcast
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