August 11, 2025 • 21 mins
Matt Zukowski claims he’s been blindsided as Tammy Hembrow is spotted kissing AFL star Bailey Smith.
A renowned psychic has called out Georgie Stevenson, claiming the wellness entrepreneur hasn’t delivered on a contra deal. Followers were shocked by the timing of the callout, with Georgie only just giving birth to her daughter, Lacey a month ago after a traumatic birth.
And Freelee the Banana Girl is back and unlike we’ve seen her before. The infamous vegan YouTuber, who rose to internet fame in the 2010s, has announced she’ll be creating more content for her almost 800k subscribers, thanks to the help of AI.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
Amy Torber and coming up on today's show, Matt Zukowski
claims he's been blindsided as Tammy Hembro is spotted kissing
AFL star Bailey Smith, and a renowned psychic calls out
Georgie Stephenson. But first, Freely the Banana Girl is back,
(00:26):
and unlike we've seen her before, the infamous vegan YouTuber
who rose to internet fame in the twenty tens, has
announced she'll be creating more content for her almost eight
hundred thousand subscribers thanks to the help of AI. When
this dropped into my YouTube feed, I felt really uneasy
because it coincided with our deep dive on Freely. Fortunately,
(00:47):
the timing is just a coincidence, because she actually posted
the YouTube video the day before we dropped the first episode,
so I'm glad we're not behind her sudden interest in
posting more consistently. What do you think you you feel?
Inspurred her on almost Well. It's funny because after us
Shane Grimm and Deep Dive last year, Sharni actually messaged us,
saying that we inspired her to post again because it
made her feel really nostalgic and really love and that
(01:10):
was very cool. But I definitely don't want to be
responsible for Freely return more consistently to YouTube. Yeah, but
I mean she really never took a break as such
from social So since moving to the jungle eight years ago,
she's been sporadically posting on YouTube and Instagram. Yeah, so
a couple of videos here and there. But on the
thirtieth of July, she unveiled Virtual Freely, who she says
(01:32):
will help her create more content for YouTube. Let's listen
to what she said.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Hey, Frieg of all, meet Virtual Freely, my digital clone.
What you're looking at right now is still me, just
presented in a virtual way. This video is filmed here
in the jungle, and the voice you're hearing is my
actual voice. So why am I doing this? Because life
on the fruit farm can be full on and I
want to bring you more high quality videos and audio
without constantly setting up cameras live it's Mike and studio,
(02:02):
and I will still make some real videos, but using
this avatar means I can spend less time on production
and more time on what matters creating videos at a
sharper better researched and packed with information that can help
change your life.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Now, Amy, I've just shown you the video about five
minutes ago in prep for this episode, could you tell
it was AI? Well, to be honest, I had to
put my glasses on and it was only when I
put them on that I realized it was in fact AI.
It looks pretty bloody good.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Well, it seems like some of her viewers haven't even
picked up on that it's virtual freely because she put
this video out explaining that she's going to be using
AI twelve days ago. She's now posted three videos in
that space of time, which is a lot for her.
I just want one of these AI bots to put
on my zoom call.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I just thought how great it would be for podcasting,
because everyone's putting their podcasts out as a video and
it's a real bitch to actually have to get dressed up,
turn lights on. I can see where Freelly is coming from.
The production does take a long time. What has the
reaction been from her follower? Well, it's been mixed. So
someone wrote, Wow, you're the first creator I've seen do this.
I have no opinion about AI and our future, but
(03:07):
this AI clone is very fascinating in itself, which I
tend to agree with. Someone else wrote, so sorry to
see this from a spiritual woman who is supporting transhumanism.
Now Freely replied to that message, saying, stop trying to
make it something more than it is. I'm not here
auditioning for the role of a guru. I'm here to
get a message out. If using a digital clone helps
me post more often, that's called being efficient, not transhumanist.
(03:29):
It's still me. You're just seeing the message without me
juggling cameras and tripods in the jungle. I'm using the
tools available to share this message more consistently. Nothing more,
nothing less. A lot of people were also questioning Freely
on the environmental impact of AI, and she defended her
actions in a very lengthy comment. Essentially, she said that
common tasks like scrolling on social media, watching Netflix, driving,
(03:51):
and wearing makeup all use more energy than her AI video,
and ultimately it will save more than it spends. She
then of course turned the message back to push her
vegan agenda, saying, so when someone eats cooked food or
packet foods wants to complain about the footprint of AI videos.
That's like a person driving a diesel truck yelling at
a cyclist for polluting. I can see where people are
coming from because it's very mixed messaging. Freeley's pushing this
(04:15):
very organic life that she's living off the earth, but
then next minute She's created some fake II persona. Well,
there isn't a single vegan stance on AI at the moment.
I suppose that a lot of discussion has been around
the environmental impact. That doesn't really seem to align with
Freeley's lifestyle, does it. But even just from the sense
of being authentic, it doesn't seem very authentic to have
(04:36):
an AI bot created on you. Wouldn't it be better
that she just went back to basics with her filming
and started using a basic vlog camera rather than all
the lighting and the tripods and yeah, and it didn't
even seem like she actually voiced it. She said, oh,
you know, this is my real voice. But I think
she's just writing a script into the whatever program that
she is using. Next, that's going to be rumors that
she's died, like Drember, those Avril Levigne rumors that there's
(04:58):
a fake I was thinking about that and the whole
Britney Spears clone rumor as well. I want a lot
technology she's using and how much actually costs. If I
was a fan of Freely, this would totally put me
off from watching her because I want to see a
real person. Yeah, but I think the people that are
still following Freely are the hardcore vegans that are interested
in the research that she is doing into veganism, So
(05:19):
it does make sense for her to spend her time
researching and putting her theories together rather than looking pretty
on the camera.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Now.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
It's interesting because Freely is the first human influencer I've
seen implement this type of AI strategy. But AI is
already really infiltrating the influencer world in an unexpected way.
I mean last month, Amy, we spoke on our subscription
channel Outspoken plus about influencer mir Zulu. So she has
one hundred and sixty seven thousand followers and went viral
(05:48):
last month after posting photos at Wimbledon. However, it was
not all that it seemed. Many people were shocked to
discover that the very esthetically pleasing photos of the stunning
woman were actually AI generated. She popped up on my
Facebook feed and I was like, oh my gosh, that
woman is stunning. I was thinking the tennis players must
be all trying to date her because it shots for
at Wimbledon. Who I read the headline, I was like,
(06:09):
oh my gosh, she's not even real. Well, it seems
like she has actually tricked a few sportsmen. There's a
few famous cricketers that have been commenting on her posts.
If you go on Me's Instagram account, in the bio
clearly states that she is an AI influencer and a
digital storyteller. But really, when you're scrolling your feed and
you see a photo pop up, you're not really going
to go check to see if the woman's real or
(06:30):
AI are you? So a lot of people are getting tricked.
The crazy thing is that most of MEA's feed posts
are photos of herself, but she's actually started posting videos
as well. Are just really freaky. I haven't seen the
videos yet, I mean very realistic, like they would trick
some people. Well, she's also got a sister called Anna Zulu,
and her virtual sister's Instagram account is actually more popular
(06:52):
than her own. It has two hundred and sixty six
thousand followers. She's a brunette. She's also very stunning. The
real person behind these accounts, though, remains anonymous. Interestingly, they
provide an email address for collaborations, so I don't know
if they're actually branded collaborations or collaborations for the AI
technology that they're using. What's about it's some guy behind us. Definitely,
(07:13):
the person that is behind this could not look any
more dissimilar to Miyazulu. I bet this is the bullshit thing.
We've got, these men now stealing away female influences, earning
capacity like creating these fake people. I mean, this just
says a lot about where our society is at. The
fact that people have mistaken Miyazulu just proves how much
(07:34):
our eyes are conditioned to see these very hyper polished
people on social media or the filters. We can't actually
determine whether the person is real or not. And this
new existence of AI influencers is sparking a lot of
conversations about authenticity, emotional influence, and how we interact with
digital personas online. And it shows that we very much
(07:54):
need clear labeling for AI generated contex because people don't
know the difference I'm your mom and before you were conceived.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
I was absolutely sure that you were a boy and then.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Reconceived, and since I've been pregnant, I think it's a girl.
Before we get into the next topic, we want to
issue a trigger warning as we do talk about traumatic births.
A renowned psyekick has called out Georgie Stevenson, claiming the
wellness entrepreneur hasn't delivered on a contra deal. Psyekik Fonteini
performed a fertility cleansing on Georgie right before her successful
(08:32):
embryo transfer late last year. Followers were shocked by the
timing of the callout, with Georgie only just giving birth
to her daughter, Lacey a month ago after a traumatic birth.
Lacey was born six weeks early via an emergency c
section after Georgie's placenta hemorrhaged. Now, before we get into it, Kate,
who is psychic Fontini, Well, she's made a name for
(08:53):
herself as being a bit of a psychic to the influencers.
So she has over sixty thousand Instagram followers and has
worked with countless Australian influences. In fact, the work she
does with influencers is a big part of her marketing strategy,
so she promotes her success stories with influencers across her
Instagram feed and also in her Instagram highlights. Her clients
(09:14):
have included Beck Judd, Martha Califatitis, Kira Rumble, Kayla and
Leah Asinas, Sharon Rville, Ellie Gonzaleve's Brook Blurton, and Olivia Meskitz,
just to name a few. Yeah, is there anyone she
hasn't dealt with in the Australia influencer world? I couldn't
believe all of them. So back in twenty twenty, both
Beck Judd and Martha Califatitis shared that Fontini had cleansed
(09:35):
their homes of negative energy. Oh gosh, you'll be hearing
from Tammy hen Brunex I know well. Martha revealed that
she would no longer be filming a planned house to
it because Fontini told her that it was bad luck
to let people's eyes and energy into her home. And
more recently, Fontini has made a name for herself as
the Instagram queen of pregnancy cleanses and predictions. So in
twenty twenty four, she announced that she helped Wiggle star
(09:58):
Katerina Metti for Pregnant with Twins so the forty three
year old Wiggle had a fertility cleansing with Fontini before
undergoing a successful embryo transfer. This is just reminding me
of my wedding celebrant who said that she had had
I think it was a seventy percent success rate with
her couples having twins. Yeah, well you didn't have them,
so you've starts there. Well, it seems like Fontini's marketing
(10:22):
clearly works because her sly kit card readings are booked
up until January twenty twenty seven. She currently, though, has
cleansing spots available. I think the fertility cleanses are a
lot less time consuming for Fontini because basically all the
communication is done via SMS. So you text her and say, hey,
I want a fertility cleansing, and she writes your name
(10:42):
down on a piece of paper and the date, and
then she gets this thing that kind of looks like
a Genie lamp that you can light up and she
burns that. I mean, I'm sure there's a lot more
to it. Section needs her an AI bot like freely
what to handle all the sms's, Yeah, well, I don't know.
Just send a little video of her doing and least
that would take a lot out of the experience. I
think yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Now.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Last week, Fontini shared a screenshot of a private message
thread between her and Georgie. So on the fourth of September,
Georgie messaged Fontini saying she wanted to book in a reading.
There was no response from Forteini, but a follow up
message from Georgie on the twenty second of October asking
if her clearings were done now. Fontini replied saying she
would call Georgie now. Fontini went on to share a
(11:25):
follow up conversation between her and Georgie, but the dates
weren't visible. In those messages. The pair discussed whether the
exchange would be contra or paid, and Georgie wrote, I'm
happy with either what feels best for you. I would
happily post and even love to have you on my
podcast if you're interested dream guests on my podcast Now.
Georgie added that she would also like a womb clearing
(11:46):
if possible. Fontini then went on to share proof of
her doing the cleansing. So in the photos there's a
piece of notepaper with Georgie's name and the date which
read the eighteenth October. Along with that, Genie lamp I
was talking about. I'm sure it's a much more professional name.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
The Fontini then went on to share screenshots from Georgie's
Instagram stories that she had posted that day. One of
the photos was of Georgie crying holding her newborn, with
the caption not me crying, thinking how insanely blessed I
am with this little cherub. And another was just a
photo of Georgie's daughter stretching out on her changing table,
with Georgie providing an update about her weight now, Fontini
(12:22):
caption this carousel of post, Hi, let me teach you
something about taking your power back, especially with the lions
Gate malarkey. It's one thing to help and get the result,
and it's one thing to say you will do something
when you don't. My final words on this fertility cleansing
that I did is don't mess with this line, especially
a Greek one. She then wrote in Greek kisses from
the Homeland. It's interesting because Martha Califatitis liked the post,
(12:46):
and when you look at the comments, there was a
lot of support for Fontini, but there were messages in
our Facebook group about this, saying that they were writing
supportive messages for Georgie which were getting deleted. I actually
saw a few of them removed as well. When I
first saw this, I thought, is this woman actually for real?
Georgie Stephenson has just gone through an extremely traumatic birth,
(13:07):
she only just recently got her daughter home from hospital,
and we're posting this shit basically because you're having a
hissy fit that you haven't been endorsed as this natural cleanser. Obviously,
she wanted to get some publicity around the fact that
Georgie had fallen pregnant after her fertility struggle. I was
pretty shocked by the timing of this call out, particularly
(13:27):
because Georgie has been very open about the fact that
she's had a tough journey to conceive her second child.
So after announcing her pregnancy news, she shared this very
raw YouTube video, which was a compilation of video updates
from her last twelve months of trying to conceive, and
during those video updates, Georgie spoke about the shock when
she was told by a doctor after her first round
(13:49):
of IVF, just before they were about to transfer the embryos,
that due to human error, all the embryos had died.
This was just so difficult to watch yes, so she's
been through really rough time conceiving. I mean, Fontini has
already been using Georgie for promotion across her own page,
so she's posted grid posts claiming that Georgie's pregnancy is
(14:10):
down to her. She also posted photos from her baby announcement,
her gender reveal, and also Georgie's baby shower. And I mean,
if the whole big deal is that Georgie hasn't had
her on a podcast yet, give the woman a break.
She's literally just given birth to a premature baby and
been at the hospital all day, all night. Well here's
one way not to get on her podcast. Yeah. I
was also surprised considering that Fontini has so many influencer
(14:33):
clients that she would want to call someone out like this,
because if I was an influence, I'd be like, oh,
I don't know if I'd want to do a deal
with her. Bailey Mate, how does it feel being a
thirst trap for every young woman in Australia? Next question?
Tammy Hembro has been spotted kissing AFL star Bailey Smith
seven weeks after announcing her divorce from Matt Sakowski. The
(14:56):
new couple were perhaped, leaving a restaurant on the Gold
Coast together on Saturday night. It's also been reported they
were seen out together a week earlier, holding hands and
kissing for hours. Now influencer watchdog account influencer updates Au
was first to break the news of the potential coupling
over the weekend. They shared screenshots from anonymous sources revealing
(15:16):
they'd spotted the couple out, and mainstream media jumped on
board this story on Monday. So the combination of an
AFL star and Australia's biggest influencer means this jostling of
mainstream media and gossip sites trying to get the scoop.
So we saw the Daily Mail run pap shots, while
The Herald Sun managed to get a quote from Matt Sakowski. Now,
(15:37):
Matt Sakowski claims he was blindsided by the news. He
told the Herald Son we only broke up eight weeks ago.
I just don't understand how someone can move on so quickly.
It's been forty eight days and I'm still trying to
work out how I feel as a person after committing
in marriage to someone. I'm trying to focus on myself
and heal. It's pretty ironic that Matt spoke to media
(15:57):
about this, because just last week on his podcast, he
did an episode about the thirty things He's learned since
turning thirty, and one of the lessons he made a
really big point about was that there is power in
staying silent. It's also pretty erotic that Matt's saying that
Tammy is the one that's moved on quickly, because he
was spotted out drinking with sports journalist Taylor Little a
(16:18):
day before Tammy announced the divorce. I mean, not to
mention he was also caught out texting a woman while
they were still together. Yeah, and also that he's claiming
they've only been broken up for forty eight days. I mean,
they've been living in different states for months now, so
it's clear that this breakup happened a long time before
the announcement. And I think he's really trying to send
to himself as the victim in this whole thing and
(16:39):
giving quotes to the media. It's like, are you just
trying to get more and more attention from this and
write on her coattails. The whole thing is you could
read it two different ways. You could go, oh, wow,
that's really rough of Tammy. To move on so quickly
after this marriage, or you could go, is she moving
on so quickly because she was fucked over by ma
I think it's a very bold statement from Tammy and
is off the back of a series of very calculus
(17:00):
moves from her. Because last week we were discussing how
she baited her followers with a Reese Hawkins reunion and
now she's been papped on a date with Australia's most
eligible bachelor. That's just, honestly the story that keeps giving
and giving. It is, I mean funny enough. Bailey Smith
is Tinder's latest ambassador. I wonder how they're feeling about
this match, because, let's face it, they did not meet
on Tinder potentially Raya. But I'm thinking it's another sneaky
(17:21):
DM slide. Well, Tinder got Bailey Smith on board because
he is a big gen Z heartthroap. I wonder if
this means that they're all now going to turn on
Tammy because everyone's gonna be jealous. I mean, I think
there'll be a level of jealousy, but then there's also
a lot of people going, oh, I get it, like
I get why you've moved on so quickly, Like he's hot.
It's funny. So many people are saying they look like
brother and sister, and I was like, I cannot see
(17:41):
it now, they look very similar. People are also discussing
the age gap, so Bailey is twenty four and Tammy
is thirty one. I personally see nothing wrong with this.
I mean, it's clearly a rebound, and what a hot rebound. Yeah,
but everyone thought Matsakowski was a rebound as well, so
I think if people don't really care about the age,
I think it's more the fact that Tummy has three
kids and seems to be moving on quite quickly, because
(18:03):
she does fall in love very quickly, as we saw
with Matt Sakowski. But from what I know about Bailey Smith,
I'm surprised we haven't thought about this pairing before because
they actually seem quite well connected. Amy come on, This
latest publicity stunt just proves to me that Tummy is
out for revenge on Matsakowski. She's not over Matt. She
wants to hit him where it hurts, particularly because Matt
(18:25):
is a Melbourne boy and he's a big AFL fan.
He's actually the one that introduced Tummy to AFL. So
when they were together. They went to a lot of
the Gold Coast Sons games. And what makes this all
even juici here is the fact that Matt posted at
Friday night's game. So Bailey Smith's team, Geelong took on
Matt's favorite team, Essendon and to add insult to injury,
(18:46):
Geelong whipped Essendon. Matt posted a photo of him in
his Essendon gear at the game and wrote Essendon lost,
but I'm still smiling because happiness is a choice, not
a destination. Kind of reminds me of when Andy Lee
and Megan Gale we're dating about ten years ago, and
his favorite team of Carlton, and then she ended up
dating one of Carlton's really good looking players. It's a
great power move. Hm. It's pretty funny because media were
(19:09):
waiting at the airport for Bailey Smith to return from
the Gold Coast and he flew back home on Sunday
and a pap did their job. They managed to really
annoy Bailey Smith. Let's throw to that exchange at the airport.
So what's the story with you and Tammy Hembrow? Can
you tell us it's Hembro not Hero hem Brow. With
Hembro Hembro, you guys have know him or what him?
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Or what.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
We saw you over the weekend kissing and canoeing at
a restaurant on the Gold Coast and they're leaving arm
in arm, hand in hand. What can you tell us
you're going? Man? Was having you want to tell us?
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Having anyone? Tell us Bailey, you guys serious or that's
a long team thing?
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Or do you think you're jealous? I wish you guys
all the best though. I actually love that this was
Bailey Smith's response because I can't stand when people say
hembrow either. Yeah, and at least he knows how to
say Tammy's name properly. It reminds me of when Bailey
gave the finger to some Crow supporters during gather Round
(20:25):
and all the journals were chasing him around trying to
get comment about that. Well, he gave the bird to
the paparazzi on the date with Tammy Hamber as well,
so it seems to be his signature move. He's known
in the media for being very open, because normally all
of the footballers are very media trained, but he has
been giving all these really funny one liners. He's actually
been praised for bringing a bit of personality back to
(20:46):
the sport, Well, he gave a lot of personality that
Pap on Sunday calling him an fing c Well, think
about all these poor genzettas though, that have signed up
to Tinder with the hope of actually just having him
come across their feed, and now this Tinder probably in
crisis talks at the main like fuck sake, and Ray
is probably like, oh, maybe we should poach him. If
I was Tinder, I'd just be pushing the narrative that
that's where they met that Tammy Hembro is also on Tinder. Well,
(21:09):
that is where we're going to leave things today. I'm
very excited because on Friday we're back with our regular
episode and I think there's proably gonna be a lot
to talk about. Yeah, well, Tammy Hembro keeps delivering it.
If you want to hear more from us. We also
release a subs episode every week and that's only four
ninety nine a month to sign up. Sound like such
a salesperson, So that episode is basically an extension of
our regular shows. We just talk more about influencers on there. Well,
(21:32):
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Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
Amy Torber and coming up on today's show, Matt Zukowski
claims he's been blindsided as Tammy Hembro is spotted kissing
AFL star Bailey Smith, and a renowned psychic calls out
Georgie Stephenson. But first, Freely the Banana Girl is back,
(00:26):
and unlike we've seen her before, the infamous vegan YouTuber
who rose to internet fame in the twenty tens, has
announced she'll be creating more content for her almost eight
hundred thousand subscribers thanks to the help of AI. When
this dropped into my YouTube feed, I felt really uneasy
because it coincided with our deep dive on Freely. Fortunately,
(00:47):
the timing is just a coincidence, because she actually posted
the YouTube video the day before we dropped the first episode,
so I'm glad we're not behind her sudden interest in
posting more consistently. What do you think you you feel?
Inspurred her on almost Well. It's funny because after us
Shane Grimm and Deep Dive last year, Sharni actually messaged us,
saying that we inspired her to post again because it
made her feel really nostalgic and really love and that
(01:10):
was very cool. But I definitely don't want to be
responsible for Freely return more consistently to YouTube. Yeah, but
I mean she really never took a break as such
from social So since moving to the jungle eight years ago,
she's been sporadically posting on YouTube and Instagram. Yeah, so
a couple of videos here and there. But on the
thirtieth of July, she unveiled Virtual Freely, who she says
(01:32):
will help her create more content for YouTube. Let's listen
to what she said.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Hey, Frieg of all, meet Virtual Freely, my digital clone.
What you're looking at right now is still me, just
presented in a virtual way. This video is filmed here
in the jungle, and the voice you're hearing is my
actual voice. So why am I doing this? Because life
on the fruit farm can be full on and I
want to bring you more high quality videos and audio
without constantly setting up cameras live it's Mike and studio,
(02:02):
and I will still make some real videos, but using
this avatar means I can spend less time on production
and more time on what matters creating videos at a
sharper better researched and packed with information that can help
change your life.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Now, Amy, I've just shown you the video about five
minutes ago in prep for this episode, could you tell
it was AI? Well, to be honest, I had to
put my glasses on and it was only when I
put them on that I realized it was in fact AI.
It looks pretty bloody good.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Well, it seems like some of her viewers haven't even
picked up on that it's virtual freely because she put
this video out explaining that she's going to be using
AI twelve days ago. She's now posted three videos in
that space of time, which is a lot for her.
I just want one of these AI bots to put
on my zoom call.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I just thought how great it would be for podcasting,
because everyone's putting their podcasts out as a video and
it's a real bitch to actually have to get dressed up,
turn lights on. I can see where Freelly is coming from.
The production does take a long time. What has the
reaction been from her follower? Well, it's been mixed. So
someone wrote, Wow, you're the first creator I've seen do this.
I have no opinion about AI and our future, but
(03:07):
this AI clone is very fascinating in itself, which I
tend to agree with. Someone else wrote, so sorry to
see this from a spiritual woman who is supporting transhumanism.
Now Freely replied to that message, saying, stop trying to
make it something more than it is. I'm not here
auditioning for the role of a guru. I'm here to
get a message out. If using a digital clone helps
me post more often, that's called being efficient, not transhumanist.
(03:29):
It's still me. You're just seeing the message without me
juggling cameras and tripods in the jungle. I'm using the
tools available to share this message more consistently. Nothing more,
nothing less. A lot of people were also questioning Freely
on the environmental impact of AI, and she defended her
actions in a very lengthy comment. Essentially, she said that
common tasks like scrolling on social media, watching Netflix, driving,
(03:51):
and wearing makeup all use more energy than her AI video,
and ultimately it will save more than it spends. She
then of course turned the message back to push her
vegan agenda, saying, so when someone eats cooked food or
packet foods wants to complain about the footprint of AI videos.
That's like a person driving a diesel truck yelling at
a cyclist for polluting. I can see where people are
coming from because it's very mixed messaging. Freeley's pushing this
(04:15):
very organic life that she's living off the earth, but
then next minute She's created some fake II persona. Well,
there isn't a single vegan stance on AI at the moment.
I suppose that a lot of discussion has been around
the environmental impact. That doesn't really seem to align with
Freeley's lifestyle, does it. But even just from the sense
of being authentic, it doesn't seem very authentic to have
(04:36):
an AI bot created on you. Wouldn't it be better
that she just went back to basics with her filming
and started using a basic vlog camera rather than all
the lighting and the tripods and yeah, and it didn't
even seem like she actually voiced it. She said, oh,
you know, this is my real voice. But I think
she's just writing a script into the whatever program that
she is using. Next, that's going to be rumors that
she's died, like Drember, those Avril Levigne rumors that there's
(04:58):
a fake I was thinking about that and the whole
Britney Spears clone rumor as well. I want a lot
technology she's using and how much actually costs. If I
was a fan of Freely, this would totally put me
off from watching her because I want to see a
real person. Yeah, but I think the people that are
still following Freely are the hardcore vegans that are interested
in the research that she is doing into veganism, So
(05:19):
it does make sense for her to spend her time
researching and putting her theories together rather than looking pretty
on the camera.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Now.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
It's interesting because Freely is the first human influencer I've
seen implement this type of AI strategy. But AI is
already really infiltrating the influencer world in an unexpected way.
I mean last month, Amy, we spoke on our subscription
channel Outspoken plus about influencer mir Zulu. So she has
one hundred and sixty seven thousand followers and went viral
(05:48):
last month after posting photos at Wimbledon. However, it was
not all that it seemed. Many people were shocked to
discover that the very esthetically pleasing photos of the stunning
woman were actually AI generated. She popped up on my
Facebook feed and I was like, oh my gosh, that
woman is stunning. I was thinking the tennis players must
be all trying to date her because it shots for
at Wimbledon. Who I read the headline, I was like,
(06:09):
oh my gosh, she's not even real. Well, it seems
like she has actually tricked a few sportsmen. There's a
few famous cricketers that have been commenting on her posts.
If you go on Me's Instagram account, in the bio
clearly states that she is an AI influencer and a
digital storyteller. But really, when you're scrolling your feed and
you see a photo pop up, you're not really going
to go check to see if the woman's real or
(06:30):
AI are you? So a lot of people are getting tricked.
The crazy thing is that most of MEA's feed posts
are photos of herself, but she's actually started posting videos
as well. Are just really freaky. I haven't seen the
videos yet, I mean very realistic, like they would trick
some people. Well, she's also got a sister called Anna Zulu,
and her virtual sister's Instagram account is actually more popular
(06:52):
than her own. It has two hundred and sixty six
thousand followers. She's a brunette. She's also very stunning. The
real person behind these accounts, though, remains anonymous. Interestingly, they
provide an email address for collaborations, so I don't know
if they're actually branded collaborations or collaborations for the AI
technology that they're using. What's about it's some guy behind us. Definitely,
(07:13):
the person that is behind this could not look any
more dissimilar to Miyazulu. I bet this is the bullshit thing.
We've got, these men now stealing away female influences, earning
capacity like creating these fake people. I mean, this just
says a lot about where our society is at. The
fact that people have mistaken Miyazulu just proves how much
(07:34):
our eyes are conditioned to see these very hyper polished
people on social media or the filters. We can't actually
determine whether the person is real or not. And this
new existence of AI influencers is sparking a lot of
conversations about authenticity, emotional influence, and how we interact with
digital personas online. And it shows that we very much
(07:54):
need clear labeling for AI generated contex because people don't
know the difference I'm your mom and before you were conceived.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
I was absolutely sure that you were a boy and then.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Reconceived, and since I've been pregnant, I think it's a girl.
Before we get into the next topic, we want to
issue a trigger warning as we do talk about traumatic births.
A renowned psyekick has called out Georgie Stevenson, claiming the
wellness entrepreneur hasn't delivered on a contra deal. Psyekik Fonteini
performed a fertility cleansing on Georgie right before her successful
(08:32):
embryo transfer late last year. Followers were shocked by the
timing of the callout, with Georgie only just giving birth
to her daughter, Lacey a month ago after a traumatic birth.
Lacey was born six weeks early via an emergency c
section after Georgie's placenta hemorrhaged. Now, before we get into it, Kate,
who is psychic Fontini, Well, she's made a name for
(08:53):
herself as being a bit of a psychic to the influencers.
So she has over sixty thousand Instagram followers and has
worked with countless Australian influences. In fact, the work she
does with influencers is a big part of her marketing strategy,
so she promotes her success stories with influencers across her
Instagram feed and also in her Instagram highlights. Her clients
(09:14):
have included Beck Judd, Martha Califatitis, Kira Rumble, Kayla and
Leah Asinas, Sharon Rville, Ellie Gonzaleve's Brook Blurton, and Olivia Meskitz,
just to name a few. Yeah, is there anyone she
hasn't dealt with in the Australia influencer world? I couldn't
believe all of them. So back in twenty twenty, both
Beck Judd and Martha Califatitis shared that Fontini had cleansed
(09:35):
their homes of negative energy. Oh gosh, you'll be hearing
from Tammy hen Brunex I know well. Martha revealed that
she would no longer be filming a planned house to
it because Fontini told her that it was bad luck
to let people's eyes and energy into her home. And
more recently, Fontini has made a name for herself as
the Instagram queen of pregnancy cleanses and predictions. So in
twenty twenty four, she announced that she helped Wiggle star
(09:58):
Katerina Metti for Pregnant with Twins so the forty three
year old Wiggle had a fertility cleansing with Fontini before
undergoing a successful embryo transfer. This is just reminding me
of my wedding celebrant who said that she had had
I think it was a seventy percent success rate with
her couples having twins. Yeah, well you didn't have them,
so you've starts there. Well, it seems like Fontini's marketing
(10:22):
clearly works because her sly kit card readings are booked
up until January twenty twenty seven. She currently, though, has
cleansing spots available. I think the fertility cleanses are a
lot less time consuming for Fontini because basically all the
communication is done via SMS. So you text her and say, hey,
I want a fertility cleansing, and she writes your name
(10:42):
down on a piece of paper and the date, and
then she gets this thing that kind of looks like
a Genie lamp that you can light up and she
burns that. I mean, I'm sure there's a lot more
to it. Section needs her an AI bot like freely
what to handle all the sms's, Yeah, well, I don't know.
Just send a little video of her doing and least
that would take a lot out of the experience. I
think yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Now.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Last week, Fontini shared a screenshot of a private message
thread between her and Georgie. So on the fourth of September,
Georgie messaged Fontini saying she wanted to book in a reading.
There was no response from Forteini, but a follow up
message from Georgie on the twenty second of October asking
if her clearings were done now. Fontini replied saying she
would call Georgie now. Fontini went on to share a
(11:25):
follow up conversation between her and Georgie, but the dates
weren't visible. In those messages. The pair discussed whether the
exchange would be contra or paid, and Georgie wrote, I'm
happy with either what feels best for you. I would
happily post and even love to have you on my
podcast if you're interested dream guests on my podcast Now.
Georgie added that she would also like a womb clearing
(11:46):
if possible. Fontini then went on to share proof of
her doing the cleansing. So in the photos there's a
piece of notepaper with Georgie's name and the date which
read the eighteenth October. Along with that, Genie lamp I
was talking about. I'm sure it's a much more professional name.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
The Fontini then went on to share screenshots from Georgie's
Instagram stories that she had posted that day. One of
the photos was of Georgie crying holding her newborn, with
the caption not me crying, thinking how insanely blessed I
am with this little cherub. And another was just a
photo of Georgie's daughter stretching out on her changing table,
with Georgie providing an update about her weight now, Fontini
(12:22):
caption this carousel of post, Hi, let me teach you
something about taking your power back, especially with the lions
Gate malarkey. It's one thing to help and get the result,
and it's one thing to say you will do something
when you don't. My final words on this fertility cleansing
that I did is don't mess with this line, especially
a Greek one. She then wrote in Greek kisses from
the Homeland. It's interesting because Martha Califatitis liked the post,
(12:46):
and when you look at the comments, there was a
lot of support for Fontini, but there were messages in
our Facebook group about this, saying that they were writing
supportive messages for Georgie which were getting deleted. I actually
saw a few of them removed as well. When I
first saw this, I thought, is this woman actually for real?
Georgie Stephenson has just gone through an extremely traumatic birth,
(13:07):
she only just recently got her daughter home from hospital,
and we're posting this shit basically because you're having a
hissy fit that you haven't been endorsed as this natural cleanser. Obviously,
she wanted to get some publicity around the fact that
Georgie had fallen pregnant after her fertility struggle. I was
pretty shocked by the timing of this call out, particularly
(13:27):
because Georgie has been very open about the fact that
she's had a tough journey to conceive her second child.
So after announcing her pregnancy news, she shared this very
raw YouTube video, which was a compilation of video updates
from her last twelve months of trying to conceive, and
during those video updates, Georgie spoke about the shock when
she was told by a doctor after her first round
(13:49):
of IVF, just before they were about to transfer the embryos,
that due to human error, all the embryos had died.
This was just so difficult to watch yes, so she's
been through really rough time conceiving. I mean, Fontini has
already been using Georgie for promotion across her own page,
so she's posted grid posts claiming that Georgie's pregnancy is
(14:10):
down to her. She also posted photos from her baby announcement,
her gender reveal, and also Georgie's baby shower. And I mean,
if the whole big deal is that Georgie hasn't had
her on a podcast yet, give the woman a break.
She's literally just given birth to a premature baby and
been at the hospital all day, all night. Well here's
one way not to get on her podcast. Yeah. I
was also surprised considering that Fontini has so many influencer
(14:33):
clients that she would want to call someone out like this,
because if I was an influence, I'd be like, oh,
I don't know if I'd want to do a deal
with her. Bailey Mate, how does it feel being a
thirst trap for every young woman in Australia? Next question?
Tammy Hembro has been spotted kissing AFL star Bailey Smith
seven weeks after announcing her divorce from Matt Sakowski. The
(14:56):
new couple were perhaped, leaving a restaurant on the Gold
Coast together on Saturday night. It's also been reported they
were seen out together a week earlier, holding hands and
kissing for hours. Now influencer watchdog account influencer updates Au
was first to break the news of the potential coupling
over the weekend. They shared screenshots from anonymous sources revealing
(15:16):
they'd spotted the couple out, and mainstream media jumped on
board this story on Monday. So the combination of an
AFL star and Australia's biggest influencer means this jostling of
mainstream media and gossip sites trying to get the scoop.
So we saw the Daily Mail run pap shots, while
The Herald Sun managed to get a quote from Matt Sakowski. Now,
(15:37):
Matt Sakowski claims he was blindsided by the news. He
told the Herald Son we only broke up eight weeks ago.
I just don't understand how someone can move on so quickly.
It's been forty eight days and I'm still trying to
work out how I feel as a person after committing
in marriage to someone. I'm trying to focus on myself
and heal. It's pretty ironic that Matt spoke to media
(15:57):
about this, because just last week on his podcast, he
did an episode about the thirty things He's learned since
turning thirty, and one of the lessons he made a
really big point about was that there is power in
staying silent. It's also pretty erotic that Matt's saying that
Tammy is the one that's moved on quickly, because he
was spotted out drinking with sports journalist Taylor Little a
(16:18):
day before Tammy announced the divorce. I mean, not to
mention he was also caught out texting a woman while
they were still together. Yeah, and also that he's claiming
they've only been broken up for forty eight days. I mean,
they've been living in different states for months now, so
it's clear that this breakup happened a long time before
the announcement. And I think he's really trying to send
to himself as the victim in this whole thing and
(16:39):
giving quotes to the media. It's like, are you just
trying to get more and more attention from this and
write on her coattails. The whole thing is you could
read it two different ways. You could go, oh, wow,
that's really rough of Tammy. To move on so quickly
after this marriage, or you could go, is she moving
on so quickly because she was fucked over by ma
I think it's a very bold statement from Tammy and
is off the back of a series of very calculus
(17:00):
moves from her. Because last week we were discussing how
she baited her followers with a Reese Hawkins reunion and
now she's been papped on a date with Australia's most
eligible bachelor. That's just, honestly the story that keeps giving
and giving. It is, I mean funny enough. Bailey Smith
is Tinder's latest ambassador. I wonder how they're feeling about
this match, because, let's face it, they did not meet
on Tinder potentially Raya. But I'm thinking it's another sneaky
(17:21):
DM slide. Well, Tinder got Bailey Smith on board because
he is a big gen Z heartthroap. I wonder if
this means that they're all now going to turn on
Tammy because everyone's gonna be jealous. I mean, I think
there'll be a level of jealousy, but then there's also
a lot of people going, oh, I get it, like
I get why you've moved on so quickly, Like he's hot.
It's funny. So many people are saying they look like
brother and sister, and I was like, I cannot see
(17:41):
it now, they look very similar. People are also discussing
the age gap, so Bailey is twenty four and Tammy
is thirty one. I personally see nothing wrong with this.
I mean, it's clearly a rebound, and what a hot rebound. Yeah,
but everyone thought Matsakowski was a rebound as well, so
I think if people don't really care about the age,
I think it's more the fact that Tummy has three
kids and seems to be moving on quite quickly, because
(18:03):
she does fall in love very quickly, as we saw
with Matt Sakowski. But from what I know about Bailey Smith,
I'm surprised we haven't thought about this pairing before because
they actually seem quite well connected. Amy come on, This
latest publicity stunt just proves to me that Tummy is
out for revenge on Matsakowski. She's not over Matt. She
wants to hit him where it hurts, particularly because Matt
(18:25):
is a Melbourne boy and he's a big AFL fan.
He's actually the one that introduced Tummy to AFL. So
when they were together. They went to a lot of
the Gold Coast Sons games. And what makes this all
even juici here is the fact that Matt posted at
Friday night's game. So Bailey Smith's team, Geelong took on
Matt's favorite team, Essendon and to add insult to injury,
(18:46):
Geelong whipped Essendon. Matt posted a photo of him in
his Essendon gear at the game and wrote Essendon lost,
but I'm still smiling because happiness is a choice, not
a destination. Kind of reminds me of when Andy Lee
and Megan Gale we're dating about ten years ago, and
his favorite team of Carlton, and then she ended up
dating one of Carlton's really good looking players. It's a
great power move. Hm. It's pretty funny because media were
(19:09):
waiting at the airport for Bailey Smith to return from
the Gold Coast and he flew back home on Sunday
and a pap did their job. They managed to really
annoy Bailey Smith. Let's throw to that exchange at the airport.
So what's the story with you and Tammy Hembrow? Can
you tell us it's Hembro not Hero hem Brow. With
Hembro Hembro, you guys have know him or what him?
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Or what.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
We saw you over the weekend kissing and canoeing at
a restaurant on the Gold Coast and they're leaving arm
in arm, hand in hand. What can you tell us
you're going? Man? Was having you want to tell us?
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Having anyone? Tell us Bailey, you guys serious or that's
a long team thing?
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Or do you think you're jealous? I wish you guys
all the best though. I actually love that this was
Bailey Smith's response because I can't stand when people say
hembrow either. Yeah, and at least he knows how to
say Tammy's name properly. It reminds me of when Bailey
gave the finger to some Crow supporters during gather Round
(20:25):
and all the journals were chasing him around trying to
get comment about that. Well, he gave the bird to
the paparazzi on the date with Tammy Hamber as well,
so it seems to be his signature move. He's known
in the media for being very open, because normally all
of the footballers are very media trained, but he has
been giving all these really funny one liners. He's actually
been praised for bringing a bit of personality back to
(20:46):
the sport, Well, he gave a lot of personality that
Pap on Sunday calling him an fing c Well, think
about all these poor genzettas though, that have signed up
to Tinder with the hope of actually just having him
come across their feed, and now this Tinder probably in
crisis talks at the main like fuck sake, and Ray
is probably like, oh, maybe we should poach him. If
I was Tinder, I'd just be pushing the narrative that
that's where they met that Tammy Hembro is also on Tinder. Well,
(21:09):
that is where we're going to leave things today. I'm
very excited because on Friday we're back with our regular
episode and I think there's proably gonna be a lot
to talk about. Yeah, well, Tammy Hembro keeps delivering it.
If you want to hear more from us. We also
release a subs episode every week and that's only four
ninety nine a month to sign up. Sound like such
a salesperson, So that episode is basically an extension of
our regular shows. We just talk more about influencers on there. Well,
(21:32):
thank you again for listening, and if you do enjoy
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