July 3, 2025 • 28 mins
In the second instalment of our Tammy Hembrow deep dive series, we explore the aftermath of Tammy's break up with her first fiance, Reece Hawkins. What started out civil, quickly turned into a feud that Reece labelled a 'bitter' war.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Tammy Hembro is Australia's most talked about influencer. At nineteen,
she made it big on social media when she shared
her fitness journey while pregnant.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
This is my first blog again, so like it might
be a little bad.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
I don't know if it's going to be boring or what,
but hope you guys enjoy it. Tammy's life is far
from boring. The fitness influencer and her family are Australia's
answer to the Kardashians. In fact, she's even been involved
in a few Kardashian scandals herself.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
A model explains why she had to leave Kylie Janno's
Los Angeles birthday party in a stretcher.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
By sharing her life online, Tammy has attracted over twenty
million followers and built an empire worth fifty million dollars.
What has really kept her followers glued are her romantic relationships.
Over the last ten years, the internet has borne witness
to three engagements, three children, one epic wedding and now
a divorce. We are journalist Sophie and Kate Talbert and
(01:00):
in this special Outspoken series, we explored the real story
behind the rise of Tammy hambro When we last left you,
Tammy and Reese had just broken up after weeks of speculation.
On the eighth of June twenty eighteen, Tammy confirmed the
news to fans in a YouTube video aptly titled life Update,
we broke Up.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Let's throw to some of what she said.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
So a couple months ago, or somewhere between one and
two months ago, I decided to end things with Greece.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
He didn't cheat on me.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
I didn't cheat on him. It wasn't like that at all.
There's just I don't honestly, I'm not going to go
into the ins and outs of our relationship. Obviously, we're human.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
We're not perfect.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
We have ups and downs like everybody else, just like you.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Tammy went on to reveal that she was unsure whether
she should make the video or not, but she had
received so many questions about her relationship status with Reese
that she didn't want people to think that she was
ignoring them, and you could tell how difficult it was
for Tammy to actually make the video. She said that
she and ree still loved each other very much and
will always be family because of the kids. She also
(02:08):
prefaced her kid's health and happiness came first.
Speaker 6 (02:11):
She then said this, like it's a super hard situation,
especially when there's kids involved, Like everything's just a million
times harder than like a regular breakup.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
In my opinion, I don't want people to think that
we just gave up or anything like most people would know.
Speaker 6 (02:30):
There's a lot more to relationships.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
Relationships are very complex.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
It's interesting because a few times during the video she
said that they were currently broken up, which made it
sound like there was some room for reconciliation. She also
explained that she had taken a while to speak about
it because they were still working.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
On things on their own.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
When this news broke, there were so many fans who
were devastated because they were absolutely invested in this relationship.
Tammy and Reese had really painted themselves as this hashtag
couple goals. They were living the life that so many
people wanted to live with this young family, and they
were incredibly glamorous. There were also a lot of disillusioned
fans who felt as though they had been lied to
(03:09):
and accused the couple of portraying a perfect relationship when
in reality it was clearly far from the truth. Yeah,
and this was a big turning point for Tammy hembro
so iphy as you said a lot of people were
disillusioned by her content. I mean, we've got to remember
this was in twenty eighteen as well, so seven years
ago when people weren't so savvy about online relationships, and
(03:30):
also the fact that a lot of influencers just share
their highlight reel. In July, Re shared his own statement
about the breakup to his YouTube channel. At the time,
he was holidaying in Bali with his best friends. Here's
a snippet of what he said.
Speaker 7 (03:44):
So obviously, I definitely need to address a few things
with all of you guys. Tear Me uploaded the YouTube
video a little while ago about us breaking up. I
don't really know why she did or, you know, one
hundred percent, I didn't really want it to happen, And
(04:04):
you know, it's been a pretty rough couple of months
trying to deal with the fact, you know, like rejection.
I guess it is I've been rejected by someone. So
that's been kind of rough. It's been probably the hardest,
you know, two three months of my life. Like I said,
I'm not sure why one hundred percent why We were
(04:27):
having a few disagreements and things. But yeah, again, it
wasn't just it wasn't my decision. And you guys can
ask her as to why, because.
Speaker 8 (04:35):
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna.
Speaker 7 (04:38):
Try and you say an opinion that might not be true.
I just don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
It's interesting that he released this video a couple of
months after the breakup and was still claiming that he
didn't fully know why Tami broke up with him. I
think it was a bit of a strategy to try
and shift the narrative and make himself the victim because
he was really pulling at the heart strings by saying
that he was rejected and blindsided. Now, two months after
(05:05):
the breakup announcement, Tammy Hembro hit rock bottom. She made
headlines when she was stretchered out of Kylie Jenna's twenty
first birthday party after she reportedly collapsed. Unfortunately for Tammy,
paparazzi were waiting out the front of the venue and
photographed her face down on the stretcher. The incident actually
happened before Kylie Jenna had even arrived at the party.
(05:25):
I remember when this story broke at the time that
there was a lot of speculation as to who this
guest was at the party because, as you mentioned, Kate,
Tammy was lying face down on the stretcher. So it
led to a big guessing game. And I think that
this made the story even bigger when it was then
revealed that it was Tammy.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
I feel for Tammy in this situation. It's like it's
a guessing game and you're hoping that no one knew.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
It was you now.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Tammy was invited to Kylie's twenty first after striking up
a friendship with the Kardashians after she modeled for Chloe's
brand Good American, and it was actually Chloe who was
a fan of Tammy. So Chloe followed Tammy's fitness journey
and publicly stated that Tammy had influenced her own fitness journey.
It was in late twenty seventeen when Chloe's team reached
out to Tammy and asked her to model for the
(06:11):
Brandon Tammy documented the whole Good American shoot as well
as her meeting Chloe. Let's have a listen.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Clean Chloe herself.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
What I just had to shoot with her.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
I don't know how amazing look for her and you go,
langs are anything I would pay for a wait, you guys,
I can't.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
This just shows the international reach that Tammy Hembro has.
I think living in Australia, you forget just how many
followers she has all over the world.
Speaker 7 (06:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Well, her connection to the Kardashians also helped her grow
even further.
Speaker 7 (06:52):
Now.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Following the incident at Kylie Jenner's birthday party, media reported
that the Kardashians weren't happy with Tammy and claimed that
Kim Courtney Care and Chris all unfollowed her, while Kylie
and Chloe remained following. Kylie, Jennet nor any of the
Kardashians have actually ever publicly commented on the event. Now.
At the time, this Stretcher incident was absolutely massive, Kate.
(07:14):
It made global headlines, and Tammy ended up releasing a
now deleted YouTube video explaining what happened. Here's some of
what she said.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
So basically what happened is I was in LA I
was running off pretty much thirty hours no sleep. I
was struggling to stay wait, even when I was getting
my hair and makeup done, I was literally sitting that
like falling asleep, like I could barely keep my eyes open.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Tammy went on to say she should not have been
drinking when she had such little sleep. Interestingly, she blamed
her impulsive behavior on her recent breakup with Rhys Hawkins.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
I think because of the breakup, I've been trying to
keep myself busy and not really taking time to think
about how I'm actually feeling or focusing on myself kind
of thing.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Tammy ended the video by calling out the trolling she'd
been receiving.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
She ended up breaking down.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
In tears when she thanked her supporters.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Let's take a listen.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Another thing I wanted to bring up is just people
trolling or being nasty or making up things just for
no good reason. I mean, I personally could never imagine
attacking someone or judging someone for something like this. Thank you,
guys for all the people who have sent supportive and
kind messages. I'm super grateful for it because I know
(08:34):
I have a lot of true fans.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Well.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Tammy experienced a lot of trolling over this incident. She
also received an outpouring of support. Fans on Twitter came
out in defense of her, with one writing Tammy hembro
only broke up with the man she was meant to
marry recently. Let the woman be a drunkards bitch in
these Another said, Tammy hembro getting unfollowed by the Kardashians
for being too drunk and vomiting at their event is
(09:02):
absolutely iconic. I want to be.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Her friend.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
Now.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Tammy recently shed more light on the incident in her book.
She called the moment her rock bottom and said she
went from media darling to public enemy. As for the night,
she said it was highly stressful and embarrassing, and claimed
that she only had one or two drinks before she collapsed.
I don't know do we actually believe that. I mean,
I'd like to think she's telling the truth. She says
(09:27):
she had very little sleep. But do we think the
Kardashians didn't fly her over in business class? Well, I
think it's all a bit of an excuse. We've got
to remember Tammy would have only been twenty four at
the time she'd been flown over by the Kardashians to
attend this birthday party. She'd just broken up with her
baby daddy and fiance. Who isn't getting on the drinks
at an event like that. I'm sure all of the
(09:48):
drinks would have been paid for. I mean, do we
really blame her. I feel sorry for it be so humiliating,
because she said she woke up in hospital to find
that there were these pictures published of her being carried
out of the party on a stretch, and in her book,
she wrote, I kept telling myself there is only up
from here. It was a very dark time and I
had to shut out the trolls and the hate I
was getting. I understand that this would be bad for
(10:09):
her image, considering she was pushing this very clean eating,
healthy fitness influencer esthetic. But I think that it also
got her more known internationally. I'd be interested to know
how many extra followers she got off the back of
this incident.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Yeah, it's kind of a case of all.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Publicity is good publicity, particularly when you're juxtaposition next to
the Kardashians. Now, two months after the incident, Reese Hawkins
announced he had a new girlfriend, American model London Gowan.
Now it's rumored that London was sliding into Reese's dms
before Tammy had even posted their break up video. After
Reese broke the news, Tammy ended up sharing a cryptic
(10:48):
quote on Instagram. We know she loves a bit of
a quote, which read breakup's hurt, but losing someone who
doesn't respect and appreciate you is actually again not all loss.
She did end up leading the post, though shortly afterwards.
She followed it up though with an Instagram story saying, man,
if people knew the truth about some people biting my
(11:08):
tongue so hard, It's going to bleed when I'm done.
London ended up going back at Tammy and posted a
selfie with the caption hey hate you you I don't
like your girlfriend. Those, of course, are iconic Avril Lavigne lyrics.
That post was also swiftly deleted. Tammy ended up ignoring
London's potshot, and she took the higher road instead. She
posted a selfie with her kids, Wolf and Saskia with
(11:31):
the caption I wanted to spend each moment of the
day with you now. Following the cryptic post, Tammy gave
an interview to a magazine and said, you have a
picture of what you think your life is going to
be like, and then circumstances change and people changed too.
We were young when we got together and still figuring
things out.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
I think when people.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Are weighing in on your personal life or you're trying
to understand things yourself. It can feel like a lot
of pressure. I share so much of my life, so
I understand that my followers online wanted to know what
was going on. People were wanting to know what happened
before we even knew what was going on. As for
Tammy's love life, it was rumored that she was in
and on again off again romance with Canadian rapper Juquoy
(12:11):
Palmer around the time of this hard launch. Now things
started to get nasty around this point. A month later,
Reese publicly criticized Tammy's approach to sharing their children online.
During Instagram Q and A. Someone wrote in saying, where
are your kids, mate? Why out there wasting time instead
of being a dad? Reese responded saying, I've seen my
kids every day last week. I just don't feel the
(12:32):
need to post them all the time. They're getting older
and have their own personalities, and they can choose if
they want to be posted or not when they're a
bit older. I just let them be kids and try
and enjoy my time with them on the days I
get to spend time and see them.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
For now. Now, This wasn't the first time.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Reese revealed he didn't like his children being online. Shortly
after the split, at a pr event, Rees said within
the next twelve months, I'll take my children off all
of my social media just because they're starting to get
their own personalities and things like that. I don't want
to force them into anything they don't want to do,
or make them take a picture when they don't want to.
They're their own people. They're not babies anymore, people recognize them.
(13:07):
It'd be really tough to navigate. What do you do
when two parents have conflicting views about how they want
to share their children online, particularly when they're not together anymore,
and particularly when one of the parents has seventeen million followers.
It seemed like it was just a way for Reese
to have a bit of a dig at Tammy, though,
because he was complicit in sharing them when they were together.
(13:31):
Things really went full circle in January twenty nineteen, when
rumors emerged the Tammy was dating Kylie Jenner's ex boyfriend
Tiger after being spotted kissing him at the Rolling Loud
festival in Sydney. She was also seen following the rapper
around Australia during his tour and hanging out backstage. Now,
(13:51):
in terms of a timeline. Kylie Jenner dated Tiger two
years earlier, so there wasn't a close crossover, but it
clearly would have hissed Kylie off considering they were friends
well close enough, and it also would have backed up
these rumors that the Kardashians weren't.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Happy with her.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Tiger is someone who doesn't mind dating within the same circles.
His ex girlfriend, Black China famously dated Rob Kardashian and
they actually had a baby together.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Now.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Tammy and Tiger's relationship is believed to have lasted around
ten months, with Tiger even writing a song about Tammy.
The song is called wet Wies, very romantic and as
you can probably tell by the title, it's an X
rated song about a sexual encounter with a woman called Tammy.
Let's play a snippet so we don't have to read
out the lyrics.
Speaker 9 (14:40):
Ibing that as you about make it go, don't stop,
let me up outside of in and out blacking lot
is topped off top bound cup like the capers. Don't
say a clack and that came on the that name
the damn damp he danced, he dance you nass you
no pan, no pan get a wet wave that'll come
a handy and the pussy here, bitch, you just have
a grammy.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
When you hear the someone's written a song about you,
you probably get all excited thinking it's this great love song,
and then to hear those lyrics, I personally wouldn't be
thrilled about it. It is kind of iconic in a way, though, Like,
you know, she's known for her ass, I mean, he's
meant to the lyrics now. Tammy later confirmed on her
podcast Hanging with the Hembros that the song was about her,
(15:22):
and she said she had approved the lyrics, but admitted
that they had been blown out of proportion. She also
went on to claim that she and Tiger were just friends,
saying that people are ridiculous and that she's literally just
friends with him. She said, I've been to a bunch
of his shows and I'm just friends with people that
he's friends with. So again, take a shot every time
(15:42):
she said friends. How can she say that though, when
she confirmed that the song lyrics were about her and
that she had approved them, like, it doesn't really make
a whole lot of sense, But she's saying that it's
just a made up scenario and it's all a bit
of a laugh. Well, it appears to Tammy's relationship with
Tiger hit a nerve with Reese Hawkins. A month after
(16:03):
the relationship rumors surfaced, Reese called Tammy out on his
Instagram story. His main gripe was to do with Tammy
repossessing his range Rover. Let's have a listen to what
he said.
Speaker 8 (16:15):
Basically, nothing has gone to plan or ended well, and
I just wanted to let you guys know that I
basically I've tried really really hard to it's my separation
from my ex and everything like that, to get it
settled and be amicable.
Speaker 10 (16:36):
And so, yeah, sadly I lost my range Rover yesterday.
They got repossessed and she decided that I didn't need
that either. So I don't have a car to even
pick my kids up anymore.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
I mean, why should.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Tammy be paying for this guy's range Rover. Take it
off the guy. He can get around in something else.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
No sympathy there from you.
Speaker 7 (17:01):
So no.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
I actually remember this story coming out because it was
around the time that we thought about launching a podcast,
and I'm like, oh my god, there's just so many
great stories like this out there because This was a
massive story at the time. Well Reese went on to
claim that Tammy was planning to sue him, and he
also accused her of quote following musicians around America. Obviously
that's a dig about Tiger. Reese later told The Daily
(17:24):
Mail as well that he was in a bitter war
with Tammy and said at the moment there was no
contact now. Tammy was quick to hit back on her
own Instagram story, saying.
Speaker 11 (17:34):
This, Okay, so I'm not about to add my dirty
launch on social media.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
I don't think it's appropriate to talk about some things.
Speaker 11 (17:42):
I don't want to put anyone in the negative light,
especially the father of my kids, no matter, no matter what,
I'm just I'm not gonna do that. But basically in
response to a car thing that he's talking about, that's
not the full story.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
She prefers that she didn't want to speak badly about
the father of her kids. She did provide a bit
of a burn at the end. She said, if I'm
letting someone use my range Rover, they shouldn't expect me
to pay their speeding fines and registration. Simple as that.
And she has a very good point. It's quite ironic
at the start of that Instagram story that Tammy said
she wasn't about airing people's dirty laundry, but.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Then added that little dig in at the end. It
seemed to be.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
More at play here than just the range Rover, though,
because the main issue seemed to be that Tammy wanted
to move to la but Reese didn't want to. According
to Reese, Tammy promised the car to him to convince
him to move with her. However, when things didn't work
out with Tiger, Tammy apparently changed her mind about moving
and subsequently about Reese having the car. It's really confusing
(18:48):
to look back at this now, as Reese ended up
trying to move to the US with London and his
son Stone, and he now lives in Balley, away from
all three of his children now. After a seven month
hiatus from Ujue, Reese returned to the platform at the
end of August twenty nineteen to share about how his
breakup with Tammy had affected him, and he was very
(19:08):
candid in this chat. He admitted that it had been
the hardest period of his life. In the now deleted YouTube,
he said, the past year has been super fucked up.
It's been a hard time I'm not going to lie.
I've had a couple of bouts of depression and anxiety.
I've actually been put on mild antidepressants just to help
me get back everything. I've struggled to eat for a
(19:29):
long time. A lot of you guys would have seen
how much weight I lost because of the depression I
was going through. Reese explained over the last year he
had to move three times so he could be near
his kids.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
He said he'd just.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Gotten back from la and revealed there had been a
change of plants. He said he was still waiting on
a few things with the kids, but things never panned
out over there. He then said, I ended up coming
back to Australia because I need to be well. I'm
trying to be quite involved with the kids now. At
the time, Tammy was in the US with MTV Australia
working at the Video Music Awards. Now, if we fast
(20:01):
forward to February twenty twenty, it appears like a lot
had been going on behind the scenes because Tammy and
Reese were suddenly on better terms. Reese even appeared in
one of Tammy's YouTube videos when he was picking up
the kids for them to come and stay with him,
and in this video, Tammy said that she and Reese
were now on friendly terms after years of fighting.
Speaker 11 (20:23):
Right now, we're going to Daddy's house. Wolf's school bag
is out Reese's so I've got.
Speaker 9 (20:30):
To go get it.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Look good. We're friends, guys. Do you love that us?
Speaker 8 (20:41):
Look going to be like this is awkward?
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Oh my god, no, they will be.
Speaker 11 (20:45):
I don't know, guys, We're actually friends now.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Reese's so nice to me now, aren't you tell them?
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Tell them how nice.
Speaker 7 (20:51):
I've always race.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
I think we should do a video together about like
co parenting.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
I take that as he are. Tammy then told the
camera that Reese is just so nice to her now.
She said, me and Reese weren't getting along for the
longest time. We broke up so so long ago now,
and it took us pretty much this long to start
getting along. It is what I've always wanted, So I
am really happy. One person who wasn't happy about it, though,
was London, Reese's girlfriend. In an Instagram Q and A,
(21:23):
she was asked how she felt about Tammy's vlog. Let's
have a listen to what she said.
Speaker 12 (21:29):
Funny question. I feel it was very put on and
do get me, which is fine. I don't care for
the drama. It's a little ridiculous, but you know.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
I think it's important to put it out there that
London and Reese were still very much together when she
shared this Q and A yeah, she clearly wasn't happy
with him at the time. She even answered a question
about what triggers her and Reese's fights. I don't think
she was that honest though, because she admitted that of course,
like every couple, they fight, but then claim their biggest
fight was over food. I think it's probably over Tammy.
(22:03):
As expected, Tammy's fans went off at London, which then
forced Reese to address the incident on his own YouTube channel.
In the now deleted video, Reese apologized for his past
actions following his split from Tammy. He also said it
was him dragging London into the drama with his ex.
He also said he was the one who dragged London
into the drama with his ex and was to blame
(22:26):
for making her feel insecure enough for her to come
at Tammy on social media. He then claimed everyone was
all good friends now now. As you can imagine, Rhees
copped a lot of backlash over his comments, and not
long after, he deleted the video alongside all the videos
on his YouTube channel. Now, on the first of August
twenty twenty, London revealed that Reese had popped the question
(22:48):
to her in Port Douglas.
Speaker 7 (22:50):
Now.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
The couple were staying at the Sheraton Grand Mirage Resort
and they got engaged in their room before heading down
to dinner in the ballroom. I do want to inject
myself into this story here. This is where I went
for my honeymoon, so you'd be very familiar with these rooms.
Perhaps you stayed in the room that Breees proposed to London.
Who knows now? London shared photos of the couple showing
off the ring with the caption Forever and Always Baby.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Reheese shared the.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
News, but only on his Instagram story, not on his
main grid, and he only just linked back to London's post.
He didn't make a post of his own. I feel
like that's because he was having a bit of a
social media blackout, though he probably thought it looked a
bit hypocritical him deleting everything off YouTube and then suddenly
posting about his private life. Now, the ring in question
was a Tiffany and co cushion cut halo yellow diamond
(23:37):
on a platinum band. The ring was estimated to be
worth a whopping fifteen to twenty six thousand dollars. Why
do I feel like, now in twenty twenty five, that's
actually not that much?
Speaker 4 (23:49):
Are you serious? That is a huge amount of money
on it.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
He's an enormous amount of money. But I feel like
we are seeing the most ridiculous rings shared on social media.
That being said, most of them now are lab diamonds. Well,
I was going to say that, I think we're only
seeing bigger rings at the moment because people are buying
lab diamonds. I mean, Brittany Hockley revealed that hers was
a lab diamond. It's actually a really ethical way, and
the ring looks exactly the same.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
I've been wondering why so many influencers have Kim Kardashian
sized engagement rings now, because you're like, surely they're not
making that much money.
Speaker 10 (24:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (24:22):
Well.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
A month later, on the second of September twenty twenty,
recent London announced they were expecting their first child together.
London shared a photo of her and Reese kissing with
the caption being busy growing a baby in my belly
with this one, what about you? Reese ended up sharing
an update of his own, this time he wrote baby
Mama Alert. Having a baby with the love of my
(24:42):
life and my best friend. It does put this proposal
into perspective a little bit and why there was perhaps
a rush for him to pop the question now. London
ended up surprising her followers by revealing she would be
sharing her pregnancy journey on Only Fans Now. At the time,
I feel like we had only just started hearing about
OnlyFans and it still had the connotation though, of being
(25:06):
sexually explicit content that was being shared. So this seemed
kind of wrong to physic at pregnancy journey on there.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Yeah, it did shock a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
London explained more in her announcement, saying, We've also been
harassed to the point where we've had to seek legal
action a few times due to harassment, bulling and stalking
over the last year. With that being said, I've decided
I'm going to share my pregnancy journey on another platform
where I feel safe and positive. Oh, come on, it's
not the fact that you're making a lot of money
off this subscription model that that's why you want to
(25:35):
share it on there. If you were being harassed and
you felt like your safety was in question, would you
perhaps just not share your pregnancy journey? I know. I'd
love to know how many people actually signed up to this.
I'm assuming the Daily Mail did, and a lot of
other publications. It also sounds super critical because Reese was
sounding off about Tammy basically exploiting their children and sharing
(25:57):
them across social media, but then he's happy to do
the same with this unborn child for money, I know.
Hours after this pregnancy announcement went live, Tammy posted a
very telling update on her own Instagram story. In the video,
she mimed to the song Pressure in My Palms by
Amney Now. The lyrics said, I hate a bit who
thinks a baby finner keep a n I hate you
(26:20):
ho Okay, I mean the message is pretty loud and
clear there. She's not happy about this. It was very
awkward for London because at the time of her pregnancy announcement,
super Sluice uncovered screenshots of her liking and commenting on
old family photos of Reese and Tammy when they were together.
So she wrote such a babe, oh my god, and
(26:42):
obsessed with the little Family. It was also revealed that
London had been liking Reese's photos since March twenty seventeen.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
That is so awkward.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Can you imagine how embarrassed you would be when this
news came out? Oh this is just a rookie era,
isn't it. If you are going to date someone whose
family you've been a fan of, go and do a
bit of a clean out, make sure that you haven't
liked any of the posts and delete any comments. And
it adds a little bit of validity to the rumors
that she slid into Reese's DMS before Tammy and him
(27:14):
had really broken up.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Was like, gotcha, do you reckon?
Speaker 1 (27:19):
She also found the comments or it really was super salutes. Yeah,
you've got a good point there. Maybe Tammy was the
one that was searching through trying to find the dirt
on London.
Speaker 11 (27:29):
Now.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
The same week London announced her pregnancy was Father's Day,
and Tammy used the occasion to take a swipe at Reese.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
So she uploaded a.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Selfie with Saskia to her Instagram story with the caption
Happy Father's Day to all the single mammas and boss
bitches doing it all. London was quick to fire back
using her own Instagram story. So she shared a picture
of Reese with Wolf and Saskia with the caption best Daddy. Well,
I was all getting very petty, isn't it? And that
is where we're going to leave things today. Next time,
(28:00):
we are diving into the era of Matt Pool, or
as Tammy fans like to call him, Matt the First.
This episode has everything an engagement, a baby, a breakup,
and even a reality TV show film crew. Thank you
again for listening to Outspoken. This podcast was recorded on
the traditional land of the Ghana people of the Adelaide Plains.
We pay respect to elders past and present.
Tammy Hembro is Australia's most talked about influencer. At nineteen,
she made it big on social media when she shared
her fitness journey while pregnant.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
This is my first blog again, so like it might
be a little bad.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
I don't know if it's going to be boring or what,
but hope you guys enjoy it. Tammy's life is far
from boring. The fitness influencer and her family are Australia's
answer to the Kardashians. In fact, she's even been involved
in a few Kardashian scandals herself.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
A model explains why she had to leave Kylie Janno's
Los Angeles birthday party in a stretcher.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
By sharing her life online, Tammy has attracted over twenty
million followers and built an empire worth fifty million dollars.
What has really kept her followers glued are her romantic relationships.
Over the last ten years, the internet has borne witness
to three engagements, three children, one epic wedding and now
a divorce. We are journalist Sophie and Kate Talbert and
(01:00):
in this special Outspoken series, we explored the real story
behind the rise of Tammy hambro When we last left you,
Tammy and Reese had just broken up after weeks of speculation.
On the eighth of June twenty eighteen, Tammy confirmed the
news to fans in a YouTube video aptly titled life Update,
we broke Up.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Let's throw to some of what she said.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
So a couple months ago, or somewhere between one and
two months ago, I decided to end things with Greece.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
He didn't cheat on me.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
I didn't cheat on him. It wasn't like that at all.
There's just I don't honestly, I'm not going to go
into the ins and outs of our relationship. Obviously, we're human.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
We're not perfect.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
We have ups and downs like everybody else, just like you.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Tammy went on to reveal that she was unsure whether
she should make the video or not, but she had
received so many questions about her relationship status with Reese
that she didn't want people to think that she was
ignoring them, and you could tell how difficult it was
for Tammy to actually make the video. She said that
she and ree still loved each other very much and
will always be family because of the kids. She also
(02:08):
prefaced her kid's health and happiness came first.
Speaker 6 (02:11):
She then said this, like it's a super hard situation,
especially when there's kids involved, Like everything's just a million
times harder than like a regular breakup.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
In my opinion, I don't want people to think that
we just gave up or anything like most people would know.
Speaker 6 (02:30):
There's a lot more to relationships.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
Relationships are very complex.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
It's interesting because a few times during the video she
said that they were currently broken up, which made it
sound like there was some room for reconciliation. She also
explained that she had taken a while to speak about
it because they were still working.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
On things on their own.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
When this news broke, there were so many fans who
were devastated because they were absolutely invested in this relationship.
Tammy and Reese had really painted themselves as this hashtag
couple goals. They were living the life that so many
people wanted to live with this young family, and they
were incredibly glamorous. There were also a lot of disillusioned
fans who felt as though they had been lied to
(03:09):
and accused the couple of portraying a perfect relationship when
in reality it was clearly far from the truth. Yeah,
and this was a big turning point for Tammy hembro
so iphy as you said a lot of people were
disillusioned by her content. I mean, we've got to remember
this was in twenty eighteen as well, so seven years
ago when people weren't so savvy about online relationships, and
(03:30):
also the fact that a lot of influencers just share
their highlight reel. In July, Re shared his own statement
about the breakup to his YouTube channel. At the time,
he was holidaying in Bali with his best friends. Here's
a snippet of what he said.
Speaker 7 (03:44):
So obviously, I definitely need to address a few things
with all of you guys. Tear Me uploaded the YouTube
video a little while ago about us breaking up. I
don't really know why she did or, you know, one
hundred percent, I didn't really want it to happen, And
(04:04):
you know, it's been a pretty rough couple of months
trying to deal with the fact, you know, like rejection.
I guess it is I've been rejected by someone. So
that's been kind of rough. It's been probably the hardest,
you know, two three months of my life. Like I said,
I'm not sure why one hundred percent why We were
(04:27):
having a few disagreements and things. But yeah, again, it
wasn't just it wasn't my decision. And you guys can
ask her as to why, because.
Speaker 8 (04:35):
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna.
Speaker 7 (04:38):
Try and you say an opinion that might not be true.
I just don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
It's interesting that he released this video a couple of
months after the breakup and was still claiming that he
didn't fully know why Tami broke up with him. I
think it was a bit of a strategy to try
and shift the narrative and make himself the victim because
he was really pulling at the heart strings by saying
that he was rejected and blindsided. Now, two months after
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the breakup announcement, Tammy Hembro hit rock bottom. She made
headlines when she was stretchered out of Kylie Jenna's twenty
first birthday party after she reportedly collapsed. Unfortunately for Tammy,
paparazzi were waiting out the front of the venue and
photographed her face down on the stretcher. The incident actually
happened before Kylie Jenna had even arrived at the party.
(05:25):
I remember when this story broke at the time that
there was a lot of speculation as to who this
guest was at the party because, as you mentioned, Kate,
Tammy was lying face down on the stretcher. So it
led to a big guessing game. And I think that
this made the story even bigger when it was then
revealed that it was Tammy.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
I feel for Tammy in this situation. It's like it's
a guessing game and you're hoping that no one knew.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
It was you now.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Tammy was invited to Kylie's twenty first after striking up
a friendship with the Kardashians after she modeled for Chloe's
brand Good American, and it was actually Chloe who was
a fan of Tammy. So Chloe followed Tammy's fitness journey
and publicly stated that Tammy had influenced her own fitness journey.
It was in late twenty seventeen when Chloe's team reached
out to Tammy and asked her to model for the
(06:11):
Brandon Tammy documented the whole Good American shoot as well
as her meeting Chloe. Let's have a listen.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Clean Chloe herself.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
What I just had to shoot with her.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
I don't know how amazing look for her and you go,
langs are anything I would pay for a wait, you guys,
I can't.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
This just shows the international reach that Tammy Hembro has.
I think living in Australia, you forget just how many
followers she has all over the world.
Speaker 7 (06:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Well, her connection to the Kardashians also helped her grow
even further.
Speaker 7 (06:52):
Now.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Following the incident at Kylie Jenner's birthday party, media reported
that the Kardashians weren't happy with Tammy and claimed that
Kim Courtney Care and Chris all unfollowed her, while Kylie
and Chloe remained following. Kylie, Jennet nor any of the
Kardashians have actually ever publicly commented on the event. Now.
At the time, this Stretcher incident was absolutely massive, Kate.
(07:14):
It made global headlines, and Tammy ended up releasing a
now deleted YouTube video explaining what happened. Here's some of
what she said.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
So basically what happened is I was in LA I
was running off pretty much thirty hours no sleep. I
was struggling to stay wait, even when I was getting
my hair and makeup done, I was literally sitting that
like falling asleep, like I could barely keep my eyes open.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Tammy went on to say she should not have been
drinking when she had such little sleep. Interestingly, she blamed
her impulsive behavior on her recent breakup with Rhys Hawkins.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
I think because of the breakup, I've been trying to
keep myself busy and not really taking time to think
about how I'm actually feeling or focusing on myself kind
of thing.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Tammy ended the video by calling out the trolling she'd
been receiving.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
She ended up breaking down.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
In tears when she thanked her supporters.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Let's take a listen.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Another thing I wanted to bring up is just people
trolling or being nasty or making up things just for
no good reason. I mean, I personally could never imagine
attacking someone or judging someone for something like this. Thank you,
guys for all the people who have sent supportive and
kind messages. I'm super grateful for it because I know
(08:34):
I have a lot of true fans.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Well.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Tammy experienced a lot of trolling over this incident. She
also received an outpouring of support. Fans on Twitter came
out in defense of her, with one writing Tammy hembro
only broke up with the man she was meant to
marry recently. Let the woman be a drunkards bitch in
these Another said, Tammy hembro getting unfollowed by the Kardashians
for being too drunk and vomiting at their event is
(09:02):
absolutely iconic. I want to be.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Her friend.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
Now.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Tammy recently shed more light on the incident in her book.
She called the moment her rock bottom and said she
went from media darling to public enemy. As for the night,
she said it was highly stressful and embarrassing, and claimed
that she only had one or two drinks before she collapsed.
I don't know do we actually believe that. I mean,
I'd like to think she's telling the truth. She says
(09:27):
she had very little sleep. But do we think the
Kardashians didn't fly her over in business class? Well, I
think it's all a bit of an excuse. We've got
to remember Tammy would have only been twenty four at
the time she'd been flown over by the Kardashians to
attend this birthday party. She'd just broken up with her
baby daddy and fiance. Who isn't getting on the drinks
at an event like that. I'm sure all of the
(09:48):
drinks would have been paid for. I mean, do we
really blame her. I feel sorry for it be so humiliating,
because she said she woke up in hospital to find
that there were these pictures published of her being carried
out of the party on a stretch, and in her book,
she wrote, I kept telling myself there is only up
from here. It was a very dark time and I
had to shut out the trolls and the hate I
was getting. I understand that this would be bad for
(10:09):
her image, considering she was pushing this very clean eating,
healthy fitness influencer esthetic. But I think that it also
got her more known internationally. I'd be interested to know
how many extra followers she got off the back of
this incident.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Yeah, it's kind of a case of all.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Publicity is good publicity, particularly when you're juxtaposition next to
the Kardashians. Now, two months after the incident, Reese Hawkins
announced he had a new girlfriend, American model London Gowan.
Now it's rumored that London was sliding into Reese's dms
before Tammy had even posted their break up video. After
Reese broke the news, Tammy ended up sharing a cryptic
(10:48):
quote on Instagram. We know she loves a bit of
a quote, which read breakup's hurt, but losing someone who
doesn't respect and appreciate you is actually again not all loss.
She did end up leading the post, though shortly afterwards.
She followed it up though with an Instagram story saying, man,
if people knew the truth about some people biting my
(11:08):
tongue so hard, It's going to bleed when I'm done.
London ended up going back at Tammy and posted a
selfie with the caption hey hate you you I don't
like your girlfriend. Those, of course, are iconic Avril Lavigne lyrics.
That post was also swiftly deleted. Tammy ended up ignoring
London's potshot, and she took the higher road instead. She
posted a selfie with her kids, Wolf and Saskia with
(11:31):
the caption I wanted to spend each moment of the
day with you now. Following the cryptic post, Tammy gave
an interview to a magazine and said, you have a
picture of what you think your life is going to
be like, and then circumstances change and people changed too.
We were young when we got together and still figuring
things out.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
I think when people.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Are weighing in on your personal life or you're trying
to understand things yourself. It can feel like a lot
of pressure. I share so much of my life, so
I understand that my followers online wanted to know what
was going on. People were wanting to know what happened
before we even knew what was going on. As for
Tammy's love life, it was rumored that she was in
and on again off again romance with Canadian rapper Juquoy
(12:11):
Palmer around the time of this hard launch. Now things
started to get nasty around this point. A month later,
Reese publicly criticized Tammy's approach to sharing their children online.
During Instagram Q and A. Someone wrote in saying, where
are your kids, mate? Why out there wasting time instead
of being a dad? Reese responded saying, I've seen my
kids every day last week. I just don't feel the
(12:32):
need to post them all the time. They're getting older
and have their own personalities, and they can choose if
they want to be posted or not when they're a
bit older. I just let them be kids and try
and enjoy my time with them on the days I
get to spend time and see them.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
For now. Now, This wasn't the first time.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Reese revealed he didn't like his children being online. Shortly
after the split, at a pr event, Rees said within
the next twelve months, I'll take my children off all
of my social media just because they're starting to get
their own personalities and things like that. I don't want
to force them into anything they don't want to do,
or make them take a picture when they don't want to.
They're their own people. They're not babies anymore, people recognize them.
(13:07):
It'd be really tough to navigate. What do you do
when two parents have conflicting views about how they want
to share their children online, particularly when they're not together anymore,
and particularly when one of the parents has seventeen million followers.
It seemed like it was just a way for Reese
to have a bit of a dig at Tammy, though,
because he was complicit in sharing them when they were together.
(13:31):
Things really went full circle in January twenty nineteen, when
rumors emerged the Tammy was dating Kylie Jenner's ex boyfriend
Tiger after being spotted kissing him at the Rolling Loud
festival in Sydney. She was also seen following the rapper
around Australia during his tour and hanging out backstage. Now,
(13:51):
in terms of a timeline. Kylie Jenner dated Tiger two
years earlier, so there wasn't a close crossover, but it
clearly would have hissed Kylie off considering they were friends
well close enough, and it also would have backed up
these rumors that the Kardashians weren't.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Happy with her.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Tiger is someone who doesn't mind dating within the same circles.
His ex girlfriend, Black China famously dated Rob Kardashian and
they actually had a baby together.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Now.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Tammy and Tiger's relationship is believed to have lasted around
ten months, with Tiger even writing a song about Tammy.
The song is called wet Wies, very romantic and as
you can probably tell by the title, it's an X
rated song about a sexual encounter with a woman called Tammy.
Let's play a snippet so we don't have to read
out the lyrics.
Speaker 9 (14:40):
Ibing that as you about make it go, don't stop,
let me up outside of in and out blacking lot
is topped off top bound cup like the capers. Don't
say a clack and that came on the that name
the damn damp he danced, he dance you nass you
no pan, no pan get a wet wave that'll come
a handy and the pussy here, bitch, you just have
a grammy.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
When you hear the someone's written a song about you,
you probably get all excited thinking it's this great love song,
and then to hear those lyrics, I personally wouldn't be
thrilled about it. It is kind of iconic in a way, though, Like,
you know, she's known for her ass, I mean, he's
meant to the lyrics now. Tammy later confirmed on her
podcast Hanging with the Hembros that the song was about her,
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and she said she had approved the lyrics, but admitted
that they had been blown out of proportion. She also
went on to claim that she and Tiger were just friends,
saying that people are ridiculous and that she's literally just
friends with him. She said, I've been to a bunch
of his shows and I'm just friends with people that
he's friends with. So again, take a shot every time
(15:42):
she said friends. How can she say that though, when
she confirmed that the song lyrics were about her and
that she had approved them, like, it doesn't really make
a whole lot of sense, But she's saying that it's
just a made up scenario and it's all a bit
of a laugh. Well, it appears to Tammy's relationship with
Tiger hit a nerve with Reese Hawkins. A month after
(16:03):
the relationship rumors surfaced, Reese called Tammy out on his
Instagram story. His main gripe was to do with Tammy
repossessing his range Rover. Let's have a listen to what
he said.
Speaker 8 (16:15):
Basically, nothing has gone to plan or ended well, and
I just wanted to let you guys know that I
basically I've tried really really hard to it's my separation
from my ex and everything like that, to get it
settled and be amicable.
Speaker 10 (16:36):
And so, yeah, sadly I lost my range Rover yesterday.
They got repossessed and she decided that I didn't need
that either. So I don't have a car to even
pick my kids up anymore.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
I mean, why should.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Tammy be paying for this guy's range Rover. Take it
off the guy. He can get around in something else.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
No sympathy there from you.
Speaker 7 (17:01):
So no.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
I actually remember this story coming out because it was
around the time that we thought about launching a podcast,
and I'm like, oh my god, there's just so many
great stories like this out there because This was a
massive story at the time. Well Reese went on to
claim that Tammy was planning to sue him, and he
also accused her of quote following musicians around America. Obviously
that's a dig about Tiger. Reese later told The Daily
(17:24):
Mail as well that he was in a bitter war
with Tammy and said at the moment there was no
contact now. Tammy was quick to hit back on her
own Instagram story, saying.
Speaker 11 (17:34):
This, Okay, so I'm not about to add my dirty
launch on social media.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
I don't think it's appropriate to talk about some things.
Speaker 11 (17:42):
I don't want to put anyone in the negative light,
especially the father of my kids, no matter, no matter what,
I'm just I'm not gonna do that. But basically in
response to a car thing that he's talking about, that's
not the full story.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
She prefers that she didn't want to speak badly about
the father of her kids. She did provide a bit
of a burn at the end. She said, if I'm
letting someone use my range Rover, they shouldn't expect me
to pay their speeding fines and registration. Simple as that.
And she has a very good point. It's quite ironic
at the start of that Instagram story that Tammy said
she wasn't about airing people's dirty laundry, but.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Then added that little dig in at the end. It
seemed to be.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
More at play here than just the range Rover, though,
because the main issue seemed to be that Tammy wanted
to move to la but Reese didn't want to. According
to Reese, Tammy promised the car to him to convince
him to move with her. However, when things didn't work
out with Tiger, Tammy apparently changed her mind about moving
and subsequently about Reese having the car. It's really confusing
(18:48):
to look back at this now, as Reese ended up
trying to move to the US with London and his
son Stone, and he now lives in Balley, away from
all three of his children now. After a seven month
hiatus from Ujue, Reese returned to the platform at the
end of August twenty nineteen to share about how his
breakup with Tammy had affected him, and he was very
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candid in this chat. He admitted that it had been
the hardest period of his life. In the now deleted YouTube,
he said, the past year has been super fucked up.
It's been a hard time I'm not going to lie.
I've had a couple of bouts of depression and anxiety.
I've actually been put on mild antidepressants just to help
me get back everything. I've struggled to eat for a
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long time. A lot of you guys would have seen
how much weight I lost because of the depression I
was going through. Reese explained over the last year he
had to move three times so he could be near
his kids.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
He said he'd just.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Gotten back from la and revealed there had been a
change of plants. He said he was still waiting on
a few things with the kids, but things never panned
out over there. He then said, I ended up coming
back to Australia because I need to be well. I'm
trying to be quite involved with the kids now. At
the time, Tammy was in the US with MTV Australia
working at the Video Music Awards. Now, if we fast
(20:01):
forward to February twenty twenty, it appears like a lot
had been going on behind the scenes because Tammy and
Reese were suddenly on better terms. Reese even appeared in
one of Tammy's YouTube videos when he was picking up
the kids for them to come and stay with him,
and in this video, Tammy said that she and Reese
were now on friendly terms after years of fighting.
Speaker 11 (20:23):
Right now, we're going to Daddy's house. Wolf's school bag
is out Reese's so I've got.
Speaker 9 (20:30):
To go get it.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Look good. We're friends, guys. Do you love that us?
Speaker 8 (20:41):
Look going to be like this is awkward?
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Oh my god, no, they will be.
Speaker 11 (20:45):
I don't know, guys, We're actually friends now.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Reese's so nice to me now, aren't you tell them?
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Tell them how nice.
Speaker 7 (20:51):
I've always race.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
I think we should do a video together about like
co parenting.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
I take that as he are. Tammy then told the
camera that Reese is just so nice to her now.
She said, me and Reese weren't getting along for the
longest time. We broke up so so long ago now,
and it took us pretty much this long to start
getting along. It is what I've always wanted, So I
am really happy. One person who wasn't happy about it, though,
was London, Reese's girlfriend. In an Instagram Q and A,
(21:23):
she was asked how she felt about Tammy's vlog. Let's
have a listen to what she said.
Speaker 12 (21:29):
Funny question. I feel it was very put on and
do get me, which is fine. I don't care for
the drama. It's a little ridiculous, but you know.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
I think it's important to put it out there that
London and Reese were still very much together when she
shared this Q and A yeah, she clearly wasn't happy
with him at the time. She even answered a question
about what triggers her and Reese's fights. I don't think
she was that honest though, because she admitted that of course,
like every couple, they fight, but then claim their biggest
fight was over food. I think it's probably over Tammy.
(22:03):
As expected, Tammy's fans went off at London, which then
forced Reese to address the incident on his own YouTube channel.
In the now deleted video, Reese apologized for his past
actions following his split from Tammy. He also said it
was him dragging London into the drama with his ex.
He also said he was the one who dragged London
into the drama with his ex and was to blame
(22:26):
for making her feel insecure enough for her to come
at Tammy on social media. He then claimed everyone was
all good friends now now. As you can imagine, Rhees
copped a lot of backlash over his comments, and not
long after, he deleted the video alongside all the videos
on his YouTube channel. Now, on the first of August
twenty twenty, London revealed that Reese had popped the question
(22:48):
to her in Port Douglas.
Speaker 7 (22:50):
Now.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
The couple were staying at the Sheraton Grand Mirage Resort
and they got engaged in their room before heading down
to dinner in the ballroom. I do want to inject
myself into this story here. This is where I went
for my honeymoon, so you'd be very familiar with these rooms.
Perhaps you stayed in the room that Breees proposed to London.
Who knows now? London shared photos of the couple showing
off the ring with the caption Forever and Always Baby.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Reheese shared the.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
News, but only on his Instagram story, not on his
main grid, and he only just linked back to London's post.
He didn't make a post of his own. I feel
like that's because he was having a bit of a
social media blackout, though he probably thought it looked a
bit hypocritical him deleting everything off YouTube and then suddenly
posting about his private life. Now, the ring in question
was a Tiffany and co cushion cut halo yellow diamond
(23:37):
on a platinum band. The ring was estimated to be
worth a whopping fifteen to twenty six thousand dollars. Why
do I feel like, now in twenty twenty five, that's
actually not that much?
Speaker 4 (23:49):
Are you serious? That is a huge amount of money
on it.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
He's an enormous amount of money. But I feel like
we are seeing the most ridiculous rings shared on social media.
That being said, most of them now are lab diamonds. Well,
I was going to say that, I think we're only
seeing bigger rings at the moment because people are buying
lab diamonds. I mean, Brittany Hockley revealed that hers was
a lab diamond. It's actually a really ethical way, and
the ring looks exactly the same.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
I've been wondering why so many influencers have Kim Kardashian
sized engagement rings now, because you're like, surely they're not
making that much money.
Speaker 10 (24:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (24:22):
Well.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
A month later, on the second of September twenty twenty,
recent London announced they were expecting their first child together.
London shared a photo of her and Reese kissing with
the caption being busy growing a baby in my belly
with this one, what about you? Reese ended up sharing
an update of his own, this time he wrote baby
Mama Alert. Having a baby with the love of my
(24:42):
life and my best friend. It does put this proposal
into perspective a little bit and why there was perhaps
a rush for him to pop the question now. London
ended up surprising her followers by revealing she would be
sharing her pregnancy journey on Only Fans Now. At the time,
I feel like we had only just started hearing about
OnlyFans and it still had the connotation though, of being
(25:06):
sexually explicit content that was being shared. So this seemed
kind of wrong to physic at pregnancy journey on there.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Yeah, it did shock a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
London explained more in her announcement, saying, We've also been
harassed to the point where we've had to seek legal
action a few times due to harassment, bulling and stalking
over the last year. With that being said, I've decided
I'm going to share my pregnancy journey on another platform
where I feel safe and positive. Oh, come on, it's
not the fact that you're making a lot of money
off this subscription model that that's why you want to
(25:35):
share it on there. If you were being harassed and
you felt like your safety was in question, would you
perhaps just not share your pregnancy journey? I know. I'd
love to know how many people actually signed up to this.
I'm assuming the Daily Mail did, and a lot of
other publications. It also sounds super critical because Reese was
sounding off about Tammy basically exploiting their children and sharing
(25:57):
them across social media, but then he's happy to do
the same with this unborn child for money, I know.
Hours after this pregnancy announcement went live, Tammy posted a
very telling update on her own Instagram story. In the video,
she mimed to the song Pressure in My Palms by
Amney Now. The lyrics said, I hate a bit who
thinks a baby finner keep a n I hate you
(26:20):
ho Okay, I mean the message is pretty loud and
clear there. She's not happy about this. It was very
awkward for London because at the time of her pregnancy announcement,
super Sluice uncovered screenshots of her liking and commenting on
old family photos of Reese and Tammy when they were together.
So she wrote such a babe, oh my god, and
(26:42):
obsessed with the little Family. It was also revealed that
London had been liking Reese's photos since March twenty seventeen.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
That is so awkward.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Can you imagine how embarrassed you would be when this
news came out? Oh this is just a rookie era,
isn't it. If you are going to date someone whose
family you've been a fan of, go and do a
bit of a clean out, make sure that you haven't
liked any of the posts and delete any comments. And
it adds a little bit of validity to the rumors
that she slid into Reese's DMS before Tammy and him
(27:14):
had really broken up.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Was like, gotcha, do you reckon?
Speaker 1 (27:19):
She also found the comments or it really was super salutes. Yeah,
you've got a good point there. Maybe Tammy was the
one that was searching through trying to find the dirt
on London.
Speaker 11 (27:29):
Now.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
The same week London announced her pregnancy was Father's Day,
and Tammy used the occasion to take a swipe at Reese.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
So she uploaded a.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Selfie with Saskia to her Instagram story with the caption
Happy Father's Day to all the single mammas and boss
bitches doing it all. London was quick to fire back
using her own Instagram story. So she shared a picture
of Reese with Wolf and Saskia with the caption best Daddy. Well,
I was all getting very petty, isn't it? And that
is where we're going to leave things today. Next time,
(28:00):
we are diving into the era of Matt Pool, or
as Tammy fans like to call him, Matt the First.
This episode has everything an engagement, a baby, a breakup,
and even a reality TV show film crew. Thank you
again for listening to Outspoken. This podcast was recorded on
the traditional land of the Ghana people of the Adelaide Plains.
We pay respect to elders past and present.
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