May 22, 2025 • 32 mins
A controversial Aussie fashion brand has been accused of painting over an Australian artist’s work. The influx of influencer baby news. Indy Clinton doesn’t really have an office job. And our Friday debrief.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
Sophie Torber and coming up on today's show, a controversial
Aussie fashion brand has been accused of painting over an
Australian artist's work. The influx of Influencer, baby News and
our Friday Debrief. But first, as we predicted, Indie Clinton
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doesn't have an office job. It was all an elabor
publicity stunt to announce her as the ambassador of a
new haircare brand Kay. A lot of people twigged it
was a marketing tactic, but it seems to have done
the trick for them. Yeah, it really did generate a
buzz for the haircare brand. It got a lot of
people talking, including us, so hats off to the marketing team.
We have spoken about it on the podcast several times before,
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but as a refresher for those who may have missed it.
About a month ago, a video of Indy Clinton working
in an office job went viral. That video was supposedly
captured by a coworker and shared to Ticked anonymously, and
while a lot of people took the bait and thought
Indie genuinely had a career change. A lot of people
were skeptical it was a PR stunt, and on Monday,
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Indie revealed it was in fact a marketing tactic to
promote a new haircare company called Boof. As we guessed
last week, the company has been launched by tvh Skincare
owner Rachel Wild, but there has been a bit of
confusion about what exactly INDI's role in the brand is
because a lot of people wondered if she maybe had
bought into the company due to this whole stunt around
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her being a worker there, particularly also because of the
language she used in one of her TikTok videos, because
she shared her using the product for a couple of
months and said, if this is really good, we're gonna
launch it. So she obviously feels very much a part
of the team. But in a media release that we
received from the brand, they said she is just an ambassador.
That is the messaging that has gone out on social
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media as well. I wouldn't be surprised if maybe she
had a bit of a stake in the company. Now
I have to talk about the fact that on Friday morning,
after our segment on Indie Clinton and booth hair aed
I got a LinkedIn request from Indy, so did you?
So did Amy? I laughed so much and thought what
a sense of humor. I had a laugh because her
job was listed as social and growth specialist. Now, the
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product that they have launched is a hair growth serum,
so it seems like they were having a bit of
fun with that one. Yeah. Now, there has been a
lot of praise for this marketing stunt, but what seems
to have confused a lot of people is the promotional
video that they released this week featuring Indie Clinton as
you touched on Kate. They are selling a new hair
growth serum which is being targeted at postpartum women. So
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with Indy being such a prolific mummy blogger, it makes
sense for her to be the face of this campaign
because she has spoken about her postpartum hair loss before. However,
in the video, it didn't make sense because she was
wearing all of these elaborate wigs and hair extensions. Yeah,
for those who haven't seen the video, she's dressed up
in a range of retro outfits and she's performing a
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lot of household tasks, So she's dancing in the kitchen.
She's also doing a workout, but yeah, as you said,
she's wearing these ridiculously long wigs, and one follower wrote,
don't get me wrong, this is cool, but also I'm
not drawn to buying hair care when the model has
fake hair slash extensions. It's just hard to see how
a product can be effective when we aren't shown the
real results. Someone also wrote to India on TikTok, your
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hair looks fantastic, but whoever's idea it was to wear
wigs for hair growth promotion should rethink that idea now.
India replied, saying, it's a hair campaign inspired by the sixties.
It's meant to be big and boofy, like the results
you get from the product. It's tongue in cheek and
fun emphasis on a fun campaign brought to life. Do
you think that their decision to incorporate wigs into this
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campaign is going to affect whether people buy this product
or not? Do you think people won't believe in the
product because of it? Well, Indy actually went on to
share her results on her TikTok and she shared that
she's been using the product since January, and this actually
further disillusioned people, because people are like, hang on, you've
gone back to your natural hair color used to be blonde.
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Your baby isn't even that young anymore, so your hair's
probably just grown back. So it didn't seem like anyone
was happy with anything this brand was putting out. Anyone
who has thin hair nose. But it takes a lot
longer than a year to get your hair back into
some sort of condition. To be fair to Indie, well,
my son Jack is nearly one years old, and my
hair is looking so bad, like it started to regrow back.
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If anything, a couple of months after you give birth,
your hairs actually looking pretty good. It takes a little
while for that hair loss to actually happen. Yeah, I
mean at the end of the day, I actually don't
think that that's going to impact the sales anyway, because
it's had so much traction, so much engagement, So many
people know about it now, so I think the people
that want to give it a try will give it
a try. I think with hair growth serums and those
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type of products, people are always a little bit dubious
and they're happy to see if it works for them.
I think it will depend on the price point as well.
Knowing TBH and how strong they are at marketing, particularly
on TikTok. They are going to be sending this product
to a lot of postpart and women and getting potentially
micro influences to do very realistic before and afters, which
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is really what drives people at the moment. I feel
like when you see everyday people testing out a product
and giving their real and honest opinion, that's what makes
that's what makes me want to buy something. Yeah, before
we wrap things up, it was quite funny in India's
comments section there were a lot of American fans that
were surprised by the brand's name. So someone says, does
booth not mean the same thing in Australia as it
(05:30):
does in America? So, Saphie, do you know what booth
means in America? No? I have absolutely no idea. So
boof or boofings, but with a double O is a
slang term for inserting drugs or alcohol into your anus. Wow,
produce a more immediate high. Oh can you imagine them?
In the TVH I was realizing this, like, fuck, first
(05:51):
the wigs, now these drugs and the anus thing. Yeah,
I'm pretty sure the Australian term is for bouffont, which
is a style of hair in the sixties. I think
that's what they were going for.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Morning. I know I'm wearing a very controversial top today,
but it's only to get your attention because I'm looking
for recommendations on something that i can buy in replace
of this.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Sabt The owner of a controversial Australian fashion brand has
been accused of painting over Australian artist Tany Kaylan's work
and uploading the results to Instagram. The heartbroken artist believes
the brazen act was a form of retaliation after she
recently started selling oversized t shirts with her artwork on it.
The fashion brand in question has carved out a name
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for itself for marketing oversized teas with positive affirmations. So
if this story is erupting on TikTok, how did it
all come about? Well, it all kicked off when Tani
made the revelation during a Q and A on Instagram. Now,
she is a painter and a muralist based in her
hometown of Mandura in Wa, and she jumped on her
stories to explain that she was initially hesitant to open
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up about the incident and spent weeks considering what to
do now, she finally decided that staying silent was not
an option and she was ready to speak out.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
So.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Tany alleges that an Australian fashion brand purchased one of
her paintings last year for three thousand dollars. That piece
in question was one of her favorite originals, called get
Out of Your Own Way. I'm sure a lot of
our listeners have seen this painting popping up on TikTok
this week. It's a really cool piece that has two
mermaids each on the back of a horse with cowboy
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hats on. It's an original piece and like a lot
of Chinese work, there's a lot of textures on the canvas. Now,
Taney alleges that the local fashion brand in question, who
she chose not to name, painted over her artwork and
posted them doing so online. Now Understandably, she got very
emotional over this and wrote, it's like watching someone hurt
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someone you love and saying nothing is painful to see
any of my work a raised, but especially this one.
It held a lot of meaning for me. I wish
they'd simply passed it on, not covered it up. Artists
are sensitive, emotional beings. When we create with meaning, we're
offering up a part of ourselves is vulnerable. It's honest,
it's real. I'm sharing this because artists deserve better. Our
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work isn't disposable. It's a piece of our heart and soul,
and when it's treated that way, it hurts more than
people realize. It's just incomprehensible to me that someone would
paint over and artists work, and what's even more unbelievable
is that they would brazenly share themselves doing it online.
It just seems like the ultimate act of disrespect and
almost like this individual was waving a flag in the
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artist's face, wanting some form of reaction from them. Now,
despyed Tany not naming the fashion brand, it wasn't long
before her followers started connecting the dots and realized that
she was talking about the controversial clothing brand Sabi. Now.
The brand is known for selling oversized T shirts ironically
with positive affirmations across them. It is owned by husband
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and wife team Jace McDonell and Ash Tadu, who live
in Queensland. Now those names may sound familiar to listeners,
as back in March, we covered the Internet bloodbath that
broke out between Sabi and author turned TikToker Kate Forster.
So some of Kate's followers had noticed a growing number
of Mummy influencers sharing far right views wearing Sarby shirts,
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and this led Kate to do some research into the brand,
and she quickly discovered that one of the owners, Jace,
was following Donald Trump on his personal account. The response
was pretty mixed online. There were some followers who started
threatening to boycott Sarby, whilst others sent an influx of
hate towards Kate Forster. In fact, her TikTok actually ended
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up getting mass reported, which then triggered every single one
of her videos to be removed, so it impacted her greatly.
In response, Sarby put out a lengthy written statement but
didn't address the elephant in the room whether or not
they politically support or align with Donald Trump. They said
they didn't want to talk about political views because they're
not political, but went on to clarify that Jason followed
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Trump to keep an eye on importation tariffs. Now, I
want to get into the reason why people are convinced
that Tani is talking about Sabi, and that is because
a few weeks prior, the owner Ash uploaded a video
of her painting a canvas. Now, the canvas in question
was to go over her bed and in true Sarbi style,
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had a massive positive affirmation, which she painted across it.
So in the real you can see the Ash has
painted the background of this really large canvas a mixture
of yellows, oranges, and pinks. She then added very messy
writing across it, which took up the entire canvas and read,
dear me, you were not perfect, but you are enough.
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Don't believe the lies you tell yourself. You have a
magic inside you that no one else on this planet has,
and just because you can't see it all the time
doesn't mean it isn't there. Take your breath. You are
doing the best you can and that is enough. Now.
The comment section was flooded by customers admiring her work,
with one going as far as saying they wish they
could mission a piece from her now. I want to
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put it out there for those of you who haven't
seen this canvas yet. But after Ash was finished with it,
it literally looked like a dog's breakfast. I can't believe
that anyone was saying that they wanted this on their wall.
The background was so messy and sloppy, it was not
a work of art by any means. And whilst these
are allegations at this stage, I want to say, if
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Ash has painted over Tarny's work with this absolute abomination,
it is the most disgusting and disrespectful thing I've seen
in such a long time. I mean, not only does
it look completely amateur, but the nerve to cover someone's
art way that they've put their blood, sweat and tears
into with essentially a love letter to yourself about how
wonderful you are. It's beyond belief. It's just crazy, isn't it.
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A lot of people have been rightly questioning, though, how
can you tell the original artwork has been painted over?
Because in this video she didn't start off with Tarny's
work and show herself covering it. So a lot of
TikTokers have been doing God's work for us. As you
touched on earlierk Tanny's style of painting uses a lot
of different textures and they are very evident in the
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original artwork. So a number of TikTokers have zoomed in
on both of the artworks to point out many of
the clear texture lines that are visible in both of
the pieces, and other TikTokers are also convinced that you
can see a faint outline of the horses and mermaids
in the background of Ash's print. The prints are also
the exact same size, so there are a few telltale
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signs that this potentially is the same artwork. I think
it's important to point out that we don't know this
as fact. They are just allegations at this stage. Sabi
has since removed the reel of Ashes painting, but they
are yet to put out a statement or comment publicly
on the fallout. If Taranese claims are true, the burning
question is why why would you cover up and raise
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an artist's work. Well, Tanni thinks she knows the answer,
so in the same Q and A, she alleged that
one of Sabi's staff members accused her of coppying Sabi's design. So,
as well as selling original artworks, Tani has also been
selling oversized T shirts for the past year, which have
her artwork on it. They're really cool, and she alleges
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that the Sabi worker accused her of copying their iconic
flame design. And using it on one of her T shirts.
She wrote, I'm assuming that maybe that's what their issue is,
but that's only an assumption. I have no idea the
real reason, and I'm sure I'll never find out. It
does lead you to question if ash did paint over
this artwork. Did she purposely do this as retribution? I mean,
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the fact that she filmed it would suggest potentially she did. Yeah. Well,
it seems like there has been a bit of competition
between these two T shirt brands, because a follower also
wrote to Tani, did you notice Sabi do drops two
hours before every drop you have to, which Tani replied no,
I didn't notice this, but a few other people messaged
me last night telling me this. Not sure if it's true,
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but if it is true, there's eight billion p people
in the world, I think there's room for everyone. This
is all so weird. Now. There has been a massive
response online to this unfolding story, with the Internet collectively
turning on Sarbi and calling to cancel the Ossie brand.
Many women have shared tiktoks about how they're now embarrassed
to wear their Sarby shirts in public, which is a
shame because they're quite expensive T shirts. They're bloody ugly. Though,
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I have to put out there someone else shared this
sentiment online. Let's throw to what they said.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
I made a TikTok probably a year ago about this
exact subject, and I posted it for all of three seconds,
and then I was like, because there was such an
unpopular opinion at the time, because it.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Was peak cult, peak cult, peak fucking uniform Savy shirts
are fucking ugly. That's my opinion, okay, And I wish
I said something about it sooner, because now now it's
like come to light that they're not fucking great people
save lovers are going to come after me in the comments,
and that's fine.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Your shirt's fucking ugly. I'd be pretty disappointed if I
spent fucking eighty bucks on a shirt and it faded
to the shit as well. I'll just turned into a
Bunco white anko shirt.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
I don't like the badmouth Australian brands, but in my
personal opinion, I would not wear a loud T shirt
like this, particularly after all these allegations have come out.
Another TikTok user something that up well, creating a video
saying what are we all doing with our sabi shirts
after what happened with Tany Kielan's work, and one user
suggested in the comments section that they should send all
of them to Tani to paint over. There has been
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a camp of people who I'm guessing don't work in
a creat a field, who have said, well, what's the
big deal? The brand in question bought the artwork, they
can essentially now do whatever they want with it. However,
that is actually not true. Tani and her work are
protected under Australia's Copyright Act for Moral Rights. So under
Australian copyright law, buying a physical artwork like a painting
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or sculpture does not necessarily give you the legal right
to deface, modify or destroy it, particularly if the artist
still holds moral rights. So when you buy a piece
of art, you own the physical object, but copyright and
moral rights often remain with the artists unless they've been
explicitly wavered or assigned. So essentially, under this Moral Right Act,
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the artist still has the right of integrity, which in
this case it has not been kept. I mean, you
can't just simply do whatever you want with an artist's painting,
particularly when you are then going to post about it
on social media or display the new artwork in public.
I never really thought about it before, but it makes
a lot of sense because you think about all of
the beautiful historic artwork that hangs in galleries. I mean,
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I'd never really considered that someone rich could buy it
and destroy it all. But I'm glad to hear that
it's actually protected by law. Well, this is an Australian law,
but I'm sure other countries have something similar. I mean
people have been pointing out, look, this wasn't a came
art reprint of a canvas that you can take home
and essentially do as you please. This is an Australian
artist's original artwork that has been destroyed. It's disgusting. I mean,
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just go buy a blank canvas.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
So you're going to tell everyone if you're having a
baby brother or a baby sister, you can't talk.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
No, he can't. So that's why we have said it
on the pod today. Now, Tuesday was a very big
day for influencer babies. Two Ozzie influencers announced they were pregnant,
while another gave birth. The one that shocked me the
most was jar Da Tunci.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
So.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
She announced on Tuesday that she's joining the two under
two club, So she shared a carousel of professional photos
from a family photo shoot and wrote, Lote Fletcher and
I are overjoyed to share that our little family will
be growing this December. I immediately screenshot this as soon
as I saw it and sent it to you, Cake.
So I knew that you would have a big reaction
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to this because you had your son Jack around the
very similar time to jar Day had Fletcher, and I
know that you just couldn't wrap your head around the
fact that she's having another one. So so I had
to do a double take because I, hang on, this
can't be correct, because yeah, Fletcher is four days younger
than Jack, and I'm currently getting ready for Jack's birthday party.
In the thought of being pregnant with the second one,
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I send my love to Jade Tunci. That would be
so difficult. She's had such a big transformation since becoming
a mum. I think before motherhood people found her content
quite confusing because she was trying to be comedic about stuff,
but then she wasn't that relatable, so people didn't get it.
But now that she's a mom and she's been sharing
the reality of motherhood, people like, I get you now. Yeah,
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she's actually very funny. I mean I was one of
those people that didn't really like her content, and now
I really enjoy it. And she has been really vulnerable
in sharing everything that she's been going through. I mean
I was glued to her Instagram story when she was
trying to get Fletcher to sleep in his own cot
because they're still struggling with this sleep at the moment,
which is why I'm like, oh my god, those poor people.
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Adding a newborn baby into the mix as well. Well,
It's funny looking at TikTok and Instagram's reaction because on
Instagram she shared these beautiful family photos and people were
so excited and sharing their love. However, she shared a
different announcement on TikTok. It was a video of her
walking along the beach and she turned around to show
off her baby. She's currently on this holiday at the
Great Barrier Reef and I think that's where she shot
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the video. And people's reactions were so different. On TikTok.
A lot of people were like, oh my god, what
are you doing. Someone wrote congratulations, I have two under two.
It's beautiful, but please prepare yourself mentally I have a
village of support and still cry weakly. People don't need this,
I know. Another said two under two is rough. Good luck.
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Fortunately for jar Day, a lot of mum's chimes in
saying the opposite, and they love the experience of having
two under two. I have to admit, though, my TikTok
algorithm at the moment is people talking about how hellish
two under two are. Just in case Jade's listening. Oh,
I don't want to say it to her. I mean,
I'm sure it's a beautiful experience, but a lot of
people are saying one is an accessory and two is
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a lifestyle. So I just have no idea how mom
had three at the same time, Like, I just have
so much respect for her. What's funny you say that
because jar Day's sister actually commented saying three babies at Christmas,
and a lot of people didn't realize that jarda sister
is thirty eight weeks pregnant, so she's talking about jar
Day's two and her one, but three people saying, oh
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my god, have you just announced that jar Day's having twins.
In saying that jar Day has revealed on her podcast
that she is having another boy. So she said that
she and Locke we're hoping maybe it was a girl,
but they're really happy to have a brother for Fletcher now.
Ella Ding also announced that she was pregnant on Tuesday,
but in a rather unorthodoxed way. So the former Maths
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contestant broke the news with a sponsored post for clear Blue.
So the pregnancy test was front and center in the
photo that she shared of her and her husband, and
she wrote on Instagram, somewhere between healing and hustling, the
next chapter quietly chose us, baby Palermo. You've already made
our story sweeter and given us the best news of
twenty twenty five. Yet. She then finished the caption with
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the hashtags ad and clear Blue confirmed. I love that
she references hustling in this because this is the ultimate
hustle to have your pregnancy announcement sponsored. I mean, what
do you do do you know that you're pregnant then
then go around to brand saying, hey, would you like
to sponsor this post? Like it's I would be fascinated
to know how this all came about. Yeah, well, her
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former best friend in Mass alumni dom was quick to
call out the sponsorship deal, so under a post that
influencer updates a you shared about the news, she wrote,
even has to monetize her pregnancy announcements. Some people will
never change. Wow. It's interesting to point out that Dom
is also pregnant at the moment. So she announced just
two months ago that she was expecting a baby with
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her partner Jared. A couple of days after the announcement, though,
she revealed she'd broken up with Jared and would be
raising the baby as a single mum. I mean, things
have not been good between Dom and Ella ever since
they announced that they were pulling the pin on their
podcast Sit with Us back in August twenty twenty four.
Maybe they'll get the band back together to do a
mother in podcast or something. I could see that happening. No,
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that is definitely not happening. They're not even on talking
terms at the moment. Yeah, but motherhood seems to change people.
Maybe they'll have this epiphany and be like, we should
come together and forgive. Maybe in the newborn phase, but
not when they've got pregnancy hormonal rage going. That could
make things worse. That could make the feud even deeper. Yeah. Well,
Dom actually spoke about this feud on her podcast or
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her new podcast called mad Woman recently, and at the
time there was a lot of speculation that their podcast
ended because they had a falling out. She confirmed that
that was the case, no way, and it all stemmed
from the backlash they received after interviewing Math's twenty twenty
four villain Jack Dunkley. So at the time, if you recall,
they were slammed by Abby Chatfield for platforming him, and
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it turns out that Dom and Ella had very differing
opinions on how to handle the situation, which led to
the friendship breakdown. Now on Tuesday, again, it seemed to
be a very special day. Christie Swadling gave birth to
her first son, Rocco, and she has been very open
about her fertility struggles. She shared her journey to conceive
with her followers, including undergoing IVF, so it was really
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lovely to see her finally have her baby boy. So
if we usually dissect the baby name, all I could
think about was that ABC Kids show Rocko's Modern Life.
I've actually got the theme song stuck in my head
at the moment. What a blast from the past. I
forget about that show. I look, I'm holding back on
my comments about baby names. Singer's mine's going to be
coming out a few weeks. I don't want to be
too harsh to anyone there. Yeah. Well, Christy kept her
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followers updated on her Instagram story throughout the day of
the birth, so she actually started experiencing contractions on the
Sunday and ended up being induced on Tuesday, and she
revealed if she didn't go into labor that night, she
would have had to have her waters broken the following day. Fortunately,
she gave birth that night and wrote on her Instagram
story that escalated so quickly and I had a fully
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unmedicated birth. I wasn't planning to laugh out loud. Birth
story is wild and keen to share now. As for
Steph Claire Smith, at the time of recording, we are
still on baby watch. On her TikTok, she was doing
a little sort of segment where each day she'd film
a TikTok where she was dancing until the baby was there,
but bogging. Sorry, but she abruptly stopped that because I
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think she realized, oh fuck, that means everyone will know
when I go into labor. So she did go quiet
on social media over the weekend, which did prompt fans
to speculate perhaps she'd given birth. She was back though,
with a fresh bump photo shoot. I thought we'd seen
the last of those. If I see this, I know
this un terrible. If I see that bump one more time, Like,
I literally feel like I've seen her own bump more
(24:21):
than my own bump, Like fucking hell. Like even the
people that feel like they've been pregnant forever. Anna macavoy
is on that level for me as well. I feel
like those two women have both been pregnant for the
longest time. Anna actually had Steph on her podcast recently,
She's got a pregnancy podcast out, and I didn't realize
they're actually go back a while. They modeled together. Well,
they were both poop bearing it in the studio. They
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both had their bumps out, and it just looked hilarious
because I'm used to seeing maybe one woman being edgy
with a pregnant bump out, but it just looked funny. Two. Look,
they both have beautiful pregnancy bumps.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
They do.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
I'm very envious of their shape. I have to put
it out there every morning to speak about this for
a while, and I'm sure, Well tell me if you
can relate. I feel like I have a b belly bump.
Maybe that's why I'm feeling me to explain because you
keep using this word b belly and you don't give
it any context. What does that even mean? So basically,
there are two pregnancy shapes. One looks like a D SO.
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If you're thinking of a D SO, it's like a round,
a beautiful round belly. Mine looks like it's got two bumps,
like a B. So capital B like a capital B.
Do you know what? I'm very sensitive of it. Maybe
that's why I'm not getting one out. I've just thought
of something to make you feel better. Didn't Molly may
have that as well, did she? Yeah, she complained that
she didn't have the bump that she wanted. I'm pretty
sure she now that you have explained it how to
(25:36):
b belly as well? Oh okay, well I'm in good
company there. Anyway, I have totally hijacked this story. Okay,
well back to Steph. So, as you said, we are
on pregnancy watch. But on Thursday, she and Laura decided
to use her impending birth to tease a new update
for their fitness app Kick. Let's throw to the clip
Halla have you had your favor yet, are you with labor. No,
(26:02):
they're very comfortable in there obviously, but no, they are
coming any day now. And it got me thinking, we
haven't had an update on that thing yet. Have you
guys decided when we're doing that thing? So we are launching.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Sunday, But don't worry, it's all sorted and it's going
to be amazing.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
I really hope that it's more exciting than their last
marketing campaign, which was a bit of a flop over
that whole Polarates hotline where people can ring in and
ask about personalized Polarates plans, because they really did hype
that up. Yeah, I'm intrigued to see what it is.
I have been using kick i think now for six
or seven years, so I've always been a fan of
the app. Yeah, it is a great app. I mean,
(26:42):
I just think some of their marketing promotions have been
interesting of late. Laura Henshaw's husband, who owns Bullfrog Media,
has been responsible for a lot of those campaigns, so
there's probably a bit of pressure on him now to
put out something that really resonates with their audience. Let's
get into our Friday debrief and I have had quite
an interesting morning. So those of you will know Archie,
(27:04):
who is not the name of my unborn son, that is,
in fact my cocker spaniel. Just a fun fact there. Yeah,
we actually had a few confused listeners because you were
talking about the card Brandon gave you for Mother's Day
and you said he signed it off from your unborn child,
Archie and him. You didn't pause. You meant to say
unboord child, your dog Archie and Brandon. I thought it
(27:25):
was obvious anyway. No, so Archie is not my baby name.
But anyway, people who have been listening to the podcast
for a long time know that Archie is basically our
child as well. He's a Golden Cockers Spaniel. He has
around thirty seven thousand followers on Instagram. He's known as
being a bit of a pupfluencer, and he actually has
a manager to a dog manager who gets any sort
(27:48):
of promotional work for him. They reached out to me.
He's on their website. I thought why not anyway, so
we don't really get that many jobs from him. I
think this is the first one this year, and it's
for a vet clinic or a vet company specialist vets
and basically my husband and I had to go down
and film a little video with him, and we were
(28:10):
just laughing because I was showing you back some of
the vision and it just cracked us up that this
vets they're posing with Archie is if he's some sort
of little celebrity that's gone into the clinic. Yeah, we
were just laughing about how funny it is that this
vet would have got this call briefing him about how
this puffluence is coming in and he has to film
with him, Like so funny. I know I'm biased, but
he is just such a good little model for things.
(28:33):
He poses perfectly for photos. He takes such good direction
whenever he's helped us out with any of our sponsors
stuff for the podcast, Like how well behaved is he?
I'm not just oh he's I mean, he's putting my
dog to shame. I had an absolute nightmare yesterday because
my dog Sonny decided to eat one of Jack's little
smocks that he wears, which a lovely local brand. Reached
(28:55):
out and give those to U Kate to where I've
got two left. But yeah, yeah, Sonny stole one of
them when I wasn't looking. She took it up We've
got like a three tiered backyard, so she's on the
top level. I could even see her. I went up there.
I'm like, what are you doing? She didn't literally half
of the smock it's quite thick material. Had to get
my in laws down. They were so kind and took
Sonny down to the vet. There's a silver lining though,
(29:18):
because it seems like Sonny has this thing called picker,
which is where dogs just eat anything, so it's not
just food, it's like other objects that they shouldn't be eating.
And the vet has mentioned that maybe we can put
her on prozac, which will help. I googled that. I
couldn't actually see whether that was a real condition or not. Picker,
Yeah it is, it's pic Ah did spell it encreas? No,
(29:39):
it is legitimate condition. If anyone has a dog that
has picker and has had any results with prozac, I
would love to know. My Friday debrief is a little
bit different. I've got a recommendation. So Reese and I
are currently off chocolate. We just finished off our Easter
egg hole, which took over a month, that's how much
chocolate there was. And God, I have been indulging and
we're like we need to start eating healthy because we
(30:01):
cook Jack all these beautiful healthy meals and I'm like,
we don't even eat this nice stuff. So I have
a recipe to share because I always have to have
a sweet treat before I go to bed. And I
just googled sweet treat on TikTok and I think these
have been doing the rounds for I don't know, probably
a couple of years now, but I wanted to endorse them.
It's literally appit a date. You put peanut butter on it.
(30:22):
We didn't have any, but you can put sprinkled peanuts,
and then you drizzle a bit of dark chocolate. And
I said it was having chocolate. It was like seventy
or eighty percent dark chocolate. I don't count that as chocolate.
It's have you got some sort of pregnancy algorithm going?
Because I've seen these as something that pregnant women should
eat a couple of weeks before they give you soften
your cervix or something, because're apparently supposed to have like
(30:43):
eight dates a day, which well, no, this is not
that at all. I feel like it's the exact same
recipe that I've seen. Well, why would I be trying
to soften my service. I'm not saying you are. I'm
saying that I feel like this recipe is pop up
for you, probably because we keep sending you pregnancies. Oh no, no,
I googled it sweet treat. Okay, anyway, then a couple
(31:04):
of weeks, I've got a bat to the fridge if
you wants all right, I mean to be honest. Dates
sound bloody awful. They're nice. Look in winter, it's getting cold.
I think you've got to have a bit of chocolate.
Think of sticky day pudding. How nice that is? Yeah, well,
well it hasn't got me over the edge. Well maybe
we'll make your sticky date pudding in your last week
at pregnant. I'd rather have that. Well that is all
we have time for today. Thank you so much for
(31:25):
joining us for this episode. If you have enjoyed it,
could you please make sure you are subscribed on Apple
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(31:47):
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Thank you so much for listening to this episode of Outspoken.
This podcast was recorded on the traditional land of the
Dana people of the Adelaide Plains. We pay respect to
Elder's past and present
Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
Sophie Torber and coming up on today's show, a controversial
Aussie fashion brand has been accused of painting over an
Australian artist's work. The influx of Influencer, baby News and
our Friday Debrief. But first, as we predicted, Indie Clinton
(00:26):
doesn't have an office job. It was all an elabor
publicity stunt to announce her as the ambassador of a
new haircare brand Kay. A lot of people twigged it
was a marketing tactic, but it seems to have done
the trick for them. Yeah, it really did generate a
buzz for the haircare brand. It got a lot of
people talking, including us, so hats off to the marketing team.
We have spoken about it on the podcast several times before,
(00:48):
but as a refresher for those who may have missed it.
About a month ago, a video of Indy Clinton working
in an office job went viral. That video was supposedly
captured by a coworker and shared to Ticked anonymously, and
while a lot of people took the bait and thought
Indie genuinely had a career change. A lot of people
were skeptical it was a PR stunt, and on Monday,
(01:10):
Indie revealed it was in fact a marketing tactic to
promote a new haircare company called Boof. As we guessed
last week, the company has been launched by tvh Skincare
owner Rachel Wild, but there has been a bit of
confusion about what exactly INDI's role in the brand is
because a lot of people wondered if she maybe had
bought into the company due to this whole stunt around
(01:31):
her being a worker there, particularly also because of the
language she used in one of her TikTok videos, because
she shared her using the product for a couple of
months and said, if this is really good, we're gonna
launch it. So she obviously feels very much a part
of the team. But in a media release that we
received from the brand, they said she is just an ambassador.
That is the messaging that has gone out on social
(01:52):
media as well. I wouldn't be surprised if maybe she
had a bit of a stake in the company. Now
I have to talk about the fact that on Friday morning,
after our segment on Indie Clinton and booth hair aed
I got a LinkedIn request from Indy, so did you?
So did Amy? I laughed so much and thought what
a sense of humor. I had a laugh because her
job was listed as social and growth specialist. Now, the
(02:15):
product that they have launched is a hair growth serum,
so it seems like they were having a bit of
fun with that one. Yeah. Now, there has been a
lot of praise for this marketing stunt, but what seems
to have confused a lot of people is the promotional
video that they released this week featuring Indie Clinton as
you touched on Kate. They are selling a new hair
growth serum which is being targeted at postpartum women. So
(02:36):
with Indy being such a prolific mummy blogger, it makes
sense for her to be the face of this campaign
because she has spoken about her postpartum hair loss before. However,
in the video, it didn't make sense because she was
wearing all of these elaborate wigs and hair extensions. Yeah,
for those who haven't seen the video, she's dressed up
in a range of retro outfits and she's performing a
(02:56):
lot of household tasks, So she's dancing in the kitchen.
She's also doing a workout, but yeah, as you said,
she's wearing these ridiculously long wigs, and one follower wrote,
don't get me wrong, this is cool, but also I'm
not drawn to buying hair care when the model has
fake hair slash extensions. It's just hard to see how
a product can be effective when we aren't shown the
real results. Someone also wrote to India on TikTok, your
(03:19):
hair looks fantastic, but whoever's idea it was to wear
wigs for hair growth promotion should rethink that idea now.
India replied, saying, it's a hair campaign inspired by the sixties.
It's meant to be big and boofy, like the results
you get from the product. It's tongue in cheek and
fun emphasis on a fun campaign brought to life. Do
you think that their decision to incorporate wigs into this
(03:40):
campaign is going to affect whether people buy this product
or not? Do you think people won't believe in the
product because of it? Well, Indy actually went on to
share her results on her TikTok and she shared that
she's been using the product since January, and this actually
further disillusioned people, because people are like, hang on, you've
gone back to your natural hair color used to be blonde.
(04:01):
Your baby isn't even that young anymore, so your hair's
probably just grown back. So it didn't seem like anyone
was happy with anything this brand was putting out. Anyone
who has thin hair nose. But it takes a lot
longer than a year to get your hair back into
some sort of condition. To be fair to Indie, well,
my son Jack is nearly one years old, and my
hair is looking so bad, like it started to regrow back.
(04:24):
If anything, a couple of months after you give birth,
your hairs actually looking pretty good. It takes a little
while for that hair loss to actually happen. Yeah, I
mean at the end of the day, I actually don't
think that that's going to impact the sales anyway, because
it's had so much traction, so much engagement, So many
people know about it now, so I think the people
that want to give it a try will give it
a try. I think with hair growth serums and those
(04:45):
type of products, people are always a little bit dubious
and they're happy to see if it works for them.
I think it will depend on the price point as well.
Knowing TBH and how strong they are at marketing, particularly
on TikTok. They are going to be sending this product
to a lot of postpart and women and getting potentially
micro influences to do very realistic before and afters, which
(05:08):
is really what drives people at the moment. I feel
like when you see everyday people testing out a product
and giving their real and honest opinion, that's what makes
that's what makes me want to buy something. Yeah, before
we wrap things up, it was quite funny in India's
comments section there were a lot of American fans that
were surprised by the brand's name. So someone says, does
booth not mean the same thing in Australia as it
(05:30):
does in America? So, Saphie, do you know what booth
means in America? No? I have absolutely no idea. So
boof or boofings, but with a double O is a
slang term for inserting drugs or alcohol into your anus. Wow,
produce a more immediate high. Oh can you imagine them?
In the TVH I was realizing this, like, fuck, first
(05:51):
the wigs, now these drugs and the anus thing. Yeah,
I'm pretty sure the Australian term is for bouffont, which
is a style of hair in the sixties. I think
that's what they were going for.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Morning. I know I'm wearing a very controversial top today,
but it's only to get your attention because I'm looking
for recommendations on something that i can buy in replace
of this.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Sabt The owner of a controversial Australian fashion brand has
been accused of painting over Australian artist Tany Kaylan's work
and uploading the results to Instagram. The heartbroken artist believes
the brazen act was a form of retaliation after she
recently started selling oversized t shirts with her artwork on it.
The fashion brand in question has carved out a name
(06:34):
for itself for marketing oversized teas with positive affirmations. So
if this story is erupting on TikTok, how did it
all come about? Well, it all kicked off when Tani
made the revelation during a Q and A on Instagram. Now,
she is a painter and a muralist based in her
hometown of Mandura in Wa, and she jumped on her
stories to explain that she was initially hesitant to open
(06:56):
up about the incident and spent weeks considering what to
do now, she finally decided that staying silent was not
an option and she was ready to speak out.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
So.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Tany alleges that an Australian fashion brand purchased one of
her paintings last year for three thousand dollars. That piece
in question was one of her favorite originals, called get
Out of Your Own Way. I'm sure a lot of
our listeners have seen this painting popping up on TikTok
this week. It's a really cool piece that has two
mermaids each on the back of a horse with cowboy
(07:27):
hats on. It's an original piece and like a lot
of Chinese work, there's a lot of textures on the canvas. Now,
Taney alleges that the local fashion brand in question, who
she chose not to name, painted over her artwork and
posted them doing so online. Now Understandably, she got very
emotional over this and wrote, it's like watching someone hurt
(07:49):
someone you love and saying nothing is painful to see
any of my work a raised, but especially this one.
It held a lot of meaning for me. I wish
they'd simply passed it on, not covered it up. Artists
are sensitive, emotional beings. When we create with meaning, we're
offering up a part of ourselves is vulnerable. It's honest,
it's real. I'm sharing this because artists deserve better. Our
(08:11):
work isn't disposable. It's a piece of our heart and soul,
and when it's treated that way, it hurts more than
people realize. It's just incomprehensible to me that someone would
paint over and artists work, and what's even more unbelievable
is that they would brazenly share themselves doing it online.
It just seems like the ultimate act of disrespect and
almost like this individual was waving a flag in the
(08:33):
artist's face, wanting some form of reaction from them. Now,
despyed Tany not naming the fashion brand, it wasn't long
before her followers started connecting the dots and realized that
she was talking about the controversial clothing brand Sabi. Now.
The brand is known for selling oversized T shirts ironically
with positive affirmations across them. It is owned by husband
(08:54):
and wife team Jace McDonell and Ash Tadu, who live
in Queensland. Now those names may sound familiar to listeners,
as back in March, we covered the Internet bloodbath that
broke out between Sabi and author turned TikToker Kate Forster.
So some of Kate's followers had noticed a growing number
of Mummy influencers sharing far right views wearing Sarby shirts,
(09:16):
and this led Kate to do some research into the brand,
and she quickly discovered that one of the owners, Jace,
was following Donald Trump on his personal account. The response
was pretty mixed online. There were some followers who started
threatening to boycott Sarby, whilst others sent an influx of
hate towards Kate Forster. In fact, her TikTok actually ended
(09:36):
up getting mass reported, which then triggered every single one
of her videos to be removed, so it impacted her greatly.
In response, Sarby put out a lengthy written statement but
didn't address the elephant in the room whether or not
they politically support or align with Donald Trump. They said
they didn't want to talk about political views because they're
not political, but went on to clarify that Jason followed
(09:58):
Trump to keep an eye on importation tariffs. Now, I
want to get into the reason why people are convinced
that Tani is talking about Sabi, and that is because
a few weeks prior, the owner Ash uploaded a video
of her painting a canvas. Now, the canvas in question
was to go over her bed and in true Sarbi style,
(10:19):
had a massive positive affirmation, which she painted across it.
So in the real you can see the Ash has
painted the background of this really large canvas a mixture
of yellows, oranges, and pinks. She then added very messy
writing across it, which took up the entire canvas and read,
dear me, you were not perfect, but you are enough.
(10:40):
Don't believe the lies you tell yourself. You have a
magic inside you that no one else on this planet has,
and just because you can't see it all the time
doesn't mean it isn't there. Take your breath. You are
doing the best you can and that is enough. Now.
The comment section was flooded by customers admiring her work,
with one going as far as saying they wish they
could mission a piece from her now. I want to
(11:01):
put it out there for those of you who haven't
seen this canvas yet. But after Ash was finished with it,
it literally looked like a dog's breakfast. I can't believe
that anyone was saying that they wanted this on their wall.
The background was so messy and sloppy, it was not
a work of art by any means. And whilst these
are allegations at this stage, I want to say, if
(11:24):
Ash has painted over Tarny's work with this absolute abomination,
it is the most disgusting and disrespectful thing I've seen
in such a long time. I mean, not only does
it look completely amateur, but the nerve to cover someone's
art way that they've put their blood, sweat and tears
into with essentially a love letter to yourself about how
wonderful you are. It's beyond belief. It's just crazy, isn't it.
(11:47):
A lot of people have been rightly questioning, though, how
can you tell the original artwork has been painted over?
Because in this video she didn't start off with Tarny's
work and show herself covering it. So a lot of
TikTokers have been doing God's work for us. As you
touched on earlierk Tanny's style of painting uses a lot
of different textures and they are very evident in the
(12:08):
original artwork. So a number of TikTokers have zoomed in
on both of the artworks to point out many of
the clear texture lines that are visible in both of
the pieces, and other TikTokers are also convinced that you
can see a faint outline of the horses and mermaids
in the background of Ash's print. The prints are also
the exact same size, so there are a few telltale
(12:31):
signs that this potentially is the same artwork. I think
it's important to point out that we don't know this
as fact. They are just allegations at this stage. Sabi
has since removed the reel of Ashes painting, but they
are yet to put out a statement or comment publicly
on the fallout. If Taranese claims are true, the burning
question is why why would you cover up and raise
(12:53):
an artist's work. Well, Tanni thinks she knows the answer,
so in the same Q and A, she alleged that
one of Sabi's staff members accused her of coppying Sabi's design. So,
as well as selling original artworks, Tani has also been
selling oversized T shirts for the past year, which have
her artwork on it. They're really cool, and she alleges
(13:14):
that the Sabi worker accused her of copying their iconic
flame design. And using it on one of her T shirts.
She wrote, I'm assuming that maybe that's what their issue is,
but that's only an assumption. I have no idea the
real reason, and I'm sure I'll never find out. It
does lead you to question if ash did paint over
this artwork. Did she purposely do this as retribution? I mean,
(13:37):
the fact that she filmed it would suggest potentially she did. Yeah. Well,
it seems like there has been a bit of competition
between these two T shirt brands, because a follower also
wrote to Tani, did you notice Sabi do drops two
hours before every drop you have to, which Tani replied no,
I didn't notice this, but a few other people messaged
me last night telling me this. Not sure if it's true,
(13:58):
but if it is true, there's eight billion p people
in the world, I think there's room for everyone. This
is all so weird. Now. There has been a massive
response online to this unfolding story, with the Internet collectively
turning on Sarbi and calling to cancel the Ossie brand.
Many women have shared tiktoks about how they're now embarrassed
to wear their Sarby shirts in public, which is a
shame because they're quite expensive T shirts. They're bloody ugly. Though,
(14:20):
I have to put out there someone else shared this
sentiment online. Let's throw to what they said.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
I made a TikTok probably a year ago about this
exact subject, and I posted it for all of three seconds,
and then I was like, because there was such an
unpopular opinion at the time, because it.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Was peak cult, peak cult, peak fucking uniform Savy shirts
are fucking ugly. That's my opinion, okay, And I wish
I said something about it sooner, because now now it's
like come to light that they're not fucking great people
save lovers are going to come after me in the comments,
and that's fine.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Your shirt's fucking ugly. I'd be pretty disappointed if I
spent fucking eighty bucks on a shirt and it faded
to the shit as well. I'll just turned into a
Bunco white anko shirt.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
I don't like the badmouth Australian brands, but in my
personal opinion, I would not wear a loud T shirt
like this, particularly after all these allegations have come out.
Another TikTok user something that up well, creating a video
saying what are we all doing with our sabi shirts
after what happened with Tany Kielan's work, and one user
suggested in the comments section that they should send all
of them to Tani to paint over. There has been
(15:24):
a camp of people who I'm guessing don't work in
a creat a field, who have said, well, what's the
big deal? The brand in question bought the artwork, they
can essentially now do whatever they want with it. However,
that is actually not true. Tani and her work are
protected under Australia's Copyright Act for Moral Rights. So under
Australian copyright law, buying a physical artwork like a painting
(15:44):
or sculpture does not necessarily give you the legal right
to deface, modify or destroy it, particularly if the artist
still holds moral rights. So when you buy a piece
of art, you own the physical object, but copyright and
moral rights often remain with the artists unless they've been
explicitly wavered or assigned. So essentially, under this Moral Right Act,
(16:06):
the artist still has the right of integrity, which in
this case it has not been kept. I mean, you
can't just simply do whatever you want with an artist's painting,
particularly when you are then going to post about it
on social media or display the new artwork in public.
I never really thought about it before, but it makes
a lot of sense because you think about all of
the beautiful historic artwork that hangs in galleries. I mean,
(16:30):
I'd never really considered that someone rich could buy it
and destroy it all. But I'm glad to hear that
it's actually protected by law. Well, this is an Australian law,
but I'm sure other countries have something similar. I mean
people have been pointing out, look, this wasn't a came
art reprint of a canvas that you can take home
and essentially do as you please. This is an Australian
artist's original artwork that has been destroyed. It's disgusting. I mean,
(16:52):
just go buy a blank canvas.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
So you're going to tell everyone if you're having a
baby brother or a baby sister, you can't talk.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
No, he can't. So that's why we have said it
on the pod today. Now, Tuesday was a very big
day for influencer babies. Two Ozzie influencers announced they were pregnant,
while another gave birth. The one that shocked me the
most was jar Da Tunci.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
So.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
She announced on Tuesday that she's joining the two under
two club, So she shared a carousel of professional photos
from a family photo shoot and wrote, Lote Fletcher and
I are overjoyed to share that our little family will
be growing this December. I immediately screenshot this as soon
as I saw it and sent it to you, Cake.
So I knew that you would have a big reaction
(17:38):
to this because you had your son Jack around the
very similar time to jar Day had Fletcher, and I
know that you just couldn't wrap your head around the
fact that she's having another one. So so I had
to do a double take because I, hang on, this
can't be correct, because yeah, Fletcher is four days younger
than Jack, and I'm currently getting ready for Jack's birthday party.
In the thought of being pregnant with the second one,
(17:59):
I send my love to Jade Tunci. That would be
so difficult. She's had such a big transformation since becoming
a mum. I think before motherhood people found her content
quite confusing because she was trying to be comedic about stuff,
but then she wasn't that relatable, so people didn't get it.
But now that she's a mom and she's been sharing
the reality of motherhood, people like, I get you now. Yeah,
(18:22):
she's actually very funny. I mean I was one of
those people that didn't really like her content, and now
I really enjoy it. And she has been really vulnerable
in sharing everything that she's been going through. I mean
I was glued to her Instagram story when she was
trying to get Fletcher to sleep in his own cot
because they're still struggling with this sleep at the moment,
which is why I'm like, oh my god, those poor people.
(18:43):
Adding a newborn baby into the mix as well. Well,
It's funny looking at TikTok and Instagram's reaction because on
Instagram she shared these beautiful family photos and people were
so excited and sharing their love. However, she shared a
different announcement on TikTok. It was a video of her
walking along the beach and she turned around to show
off her baby. She's currently on this holiday at the
Great Barrier Reef and I think that's where she shot
(19:03):
the video. And people's reactions were so different. On TikTok.
A lot of people were like, oh my god, what
are you doing. Someone wrote congratulations, I have two under two.
It's beautiful, but please prepare yourself mentally I have a
village of support and still cry weakly. People don't need this,
I know. Another said two under two is rough. Good luck.
(19:23):
Fortunately for jar Day, a lot of mum's chimes in
saying the opposite, and they love the experience of having
two under two. I have to admit, though, my TikTok
algorithm at the moment is people talking about how hellish
two under two are. Just in case Jade's listening. Oh,
I don't want to say it to her. I mean,
I'm sure it's a beautiful experience, but a lot of
people are saying one is an accessory and two is
(19:45):
a lifestyle. So I just have no idea how mom
had three at the same time, Like, I just have
so much respect for her. What's funny you say that
because jar Day's sister actually commented saying three babies at Christmas,
and a lot of people didn't realize that jarda sister
is thirty eight weeks pregnant, so she's talking about jar
Day's two and her one, but three people saying, oh
(20:05):
my god, have you just announced that jar Day's having twins.
In saying that jar Day has revealed on her podcast
that she is having another boy. So she said that
she and Locke we're hoping maybe it was a girl,
but they're really happy to have a brother for Fletcher now.
Ella Ding also announced that she was pregnant on Tuesday,
but in a rather unorthodoxed way. So the former Maths
(20:27):
contestant broke the news with a sponsored post for clear Blue.
So the pregnancy test was front and center in the
photo that she shared of her and her husband, and
she wrote on Instagram, somewhere between healing and hustling, the
next chapter quietly chose us, baby Palermo. You've already made
our story sweeter and given us the best news of
twenty twenty five. Yet. She then finished the caption with
(20:50):
the hashtags ad and clear Blue confirmed. I love that
she references hustling in this because this is the ultimate
hustle to have your pregnancy announcement sponsored. I mean, what
do you do do you know that you're pregnant then
then go around to brand saying, hey, would you like
to sponsor this post? Like it's I would be fascinated
to know how this all came about. Yeah, well, her
(21:10):
former best friend in Mass alumni dom was quick to
call out the sponsorship deal, so under a post that
influencer updates a you shared about the news, she wrote,
even has to monetize her pregnancy announcements. Some people will
never change. Wow. It's interesting to point out that Dom
is also pregnant at the moment. So she announced just
two months ago that she was expecting a baby with
(21:32):
her partner Jared. A couple of days after the announcement, though,
she revealed she'd broken up with Jared and would be
raising the baby as a single mum. I mean, things
have not been good between Dom and Ella ever since
they announced that they were pulling the pin on their
podcast Sit with Us back in August twenty twenty four.
Maybe they'll get the band back together to do a
mother in podcast or something. I could see that happening. No,
(21:52):
that is definitely not happening. They're not even on talking
terms at the moment. Yeah, but motherhood seems to change people.
Maybe they'll have this epiphany and be like, we should
come together and forgive. Maybe in the newborn phase, but
not when they've got pregnancy hormonal rage going. That could
make things worse. That could make the feud even deeper. Yeah. Well,
Dom actually spoke about this feud on her podcast or
(22:13):
her new podcast called mad Woman recently, and at the
time there was a lot of speculation that their podcast
ended because they had a falling out. She confirmed that
that was the case, no way, and it all stemmed
from the backlash they received after interviewing Math's twenty twenty
four villain Jack Dunkley. So at the time, if you recall,
they were slammed by Abby Chatfield for platforming him, and
(22:33):
it turns out that Dom and Ella had very differing
opinions on how to handle the situation, which led to
the friendship breakdown. Now on Tuesday, again, it seemed to
be a very special day. Christie Swadling gave birth to
her first son, Rocco, and she has been very open
about her fertility struggles. She shared her journey to conceive
with her followers, including undergoing IVF, so it was really
(22:55):
lovely to see her finally have her baby boy. So
if we usually dissect the baby name, all I could
think about was that ABC Kids show Rocko's Modern Life.
I've actually got the theme song stuck in my head
at the moment. What a blast from the past. I
forget about that show. I look, I'm holding back on
my comments about baby names. Singer's mine's going to be
coming out a few weeks. I don't want to be
too harsh to anyone there. Yeah. Well, Christy kept her
(23:17):
followers updated on her Instagram story throughout the day of
the birth, so she actually started experiencing contractions on the
Sunday and ended up being induced on Tuesday, and she
revealed if she didn't go into labor that night, she
would have had to have her waters broken the following day. Fortunately,
she gave birth that night and wrote on her Instagram
story that escalated so quickly and I had a fully
(23:39):
unmedicated birth. I wasn't planning to laugh out loud. Birth
story is wild and keen to share now. As for
Steph Claire Smith, at the time of recording, we are
still on baby watch. On her TikTok, she was doing
a little sort of segment where each day she'd film
a TikTok where she was dancing until the baby was there,
but bogging. Sorry, but she abruptly stopped that because I
(24:00):
think she realized, oh fuck, that means everyone will know
when I go into labor. So she did go quiet
on social media over the weekend, which did prompt fans
to speculate perhaps she'd given birth. She was back though,
with a fresh bump photo shoot. I thought we'd seen
the last of those. If I see this, I know
this un terrible. If I see that bump one more time, Like,
I literally feel like I've seen her own bump more
(24:21):
than my own bump, Like fucking hell. Like even the
people that feel like they've been pregnant forever. Anna macavoy
is on that level for me as well. I feel
like those two women have both been pregnant for the
longest time. Anna actually had Steph on her podcast recently,
She's got a pregnancy podcast out, and I didn't realize
they're actually go back a while. They modeled together. Well,
they were both poop bearing it in the studio. They
(24:42):
both had their bumps out, and it just looked hilarious
because I'm used to seeing maybe one woman being edgy
with a pregnant bump out, but it just looked funny. Two. Look,
they both have beautiful pregnancy bumps.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
They do.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
I'm very envious of their shape. I have to put
it out there every morning to speak about this for
a while, and I'm sure, Well tell me if you
can relate. I feel like I have a b belly bump.
Maybe that's why I'm feeling me to explain because you
keep using this word b belly and you don't give
it any context. What does that even mean? So basically,
there are two pregnancy shapes. One looks like a D SO.
(25:16):
If you're thinking of a D SO, it's like a round,
a beautiful round belly. Mine looks like it's got two bumps,
like a B. So capital B like a capital B.
Do you know what? I'm very sensitive of it. Maybe
that's why I'm not getting one out. I've just thought
of something to make you feel better. Didn't Molly may
have that as well, did she? Yeah, she complained that
she didn't have the bump that she wanted. I'm pretty
sure she now that you have explained it how to
(25:36):
b belly as well? Oh okay, well I'm in good
company there. Anyway, I have totally hijacked this story. Okay,
well back to Steph. So, as you said, we are
on pregnancy watch. But on Thursday, she and Laura decided
to use her impending birth to tease a new update
for their fitness app Kick. Let's throw to the clip
Halla have you had your favor yet, are you with labor. No,
(26:02):
they're very comfortable in there obviously, but no, they are
coming any day now. And it got me thinking, we
haven't had an update on that thing yet. Have you
guys decided when we're doing that thing? So we are launching.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Sunday, But don't worry, it's all sorted and it's going
to be amazing.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
I really hope that it's more exciting than their last
marketing campaign, which was a bit of a flop over
that whole Polarates hotline where people can ring in and
ask about personalized Polarates plans, because they really did hype
that up. Yeah, I'm intrigued to see what it is.
I have been using kick i think now for six
or seven years, so I've always been a fan of
the app. Yeah, it is a great app. I mean,
(26:42):
I just think some of their marketing promotions have been
interesting of late. Laura Henshaw's husband, who owns Bullfrog Media,
has been responsible for a lot of those campaigns, so
there's probably a bit of pressure on him now to
put out something that really resonates with their audience. Let's
get into our Friday debrief and I have had quite
an interesting morning. So those of you will know Archie,
(27:04):
who is not the name of my unborn son, that is,
in fact my cocker spaniel. Just a fun fact there. Yeah,
we actually had a few confused listeners because you were
talking about the card Brandon gave you for Mother's Day
and you said he signed it off from your unborn child,
Archie and him. You didn't pause. You meant to say
unboord child, your dog Archie and Brandon. I thought it
(27:25):
was obvious anyway. No, so Archie is not my baby name.
But anyway, people who have been listening to the podcast
for a long time know that Archie is basically our
child as well. He's a Golden Cockers Spaniel. He has
around thirty seven thousand followers on Instagram. He's known as
being a bit of a pupfluencer, and he actually has
a manager to a dog manager who gets any sort
(27:48):
of promotional work for him. They reached out to me.
He's on their website. I thought why not anyway, so
we don't really get that many jobs from him. I
think this is the first one this year, and it's
for a vet clinic or a vet company specialist vets
and basically my husband and I had to go down
and film a little video with him, and we were
(28:10):
just laughing because I was showing you back some of
the vision and it just cracked us up that this
vets they're posing with Archie is if he's some sort
of little celebrity that's gone into the clinic. Yeah, we
were just laughing about how funny it is that this
vet would have got this call briefing him about how
this puffluence is coming in and he has to film
with him, Like so funny. I know I'm biased, but
he is just such a good little model for things.
(28:33):
He poses perfectly for photos. He takes such good direction
whenever he's helped us out with any of our sponsors
stuff for the podcast, Like how well behaved is he?
I'm not just oh he's I mean, he's putting my
dog to shame. I had an absolute nightmare yesterday because
my dog Sonny decided to eat one of Jack's little
smocks that he wears, which a lovely local brand. Reached
(28:55):
out and give those to U Kate to where I've
got two left. But yeah, yeah, Sonny stole one of
them when I wasn't looking. She took it up We've
got like a three tiered backyard, so she's on the
top level. I could even see her. I went up there.
I'm like, what are you doing? She didn't literally half
of the smock it's quite thick material. Had to get
my in laws down. They were so kind and took
Sonny down to the vet. There's a silver lining though,
(29:18):
because it seems like Sonny has this thing called picker,
which is where dogs just eat anything, so it's not
just food, it's like other objects that they shouldn't be eating.
And the vet has mentioned that maybe we can put
her on prozac, which will help. I googled that. I
couldn't actually see whether that was a real condition or not. Picker,
Yeah it is, it's pic Ah did spell it encreas? No,
(29:39):
it is legitimate condition. If anyone has a dog that
has picker and has had any results with prozac, I
would love to know. My Friday debrief is a little
bit different. I've got a recommendation. So Reese and I
are currently off chocolate. We just finished off our Easter
egg hole, which took over a month, that's how much
chocolate there was. And God, I have been indulging and
we're like we need to start eating healthy because we
(30:01):
cook Jack all these beautiful healthy meals and I'm like,
we don't even eat this nice stuff. So I have
a recipe to share because I always have to have
a sweet treat before I go to bed. And I
just googled sweet treat on TikTok and I think these
have been doing the rounds for I don't know, probably
a couple of years now, but I wanted to endorse them.
It's literally appit a date. You put peanut butter on it.
(30:22):
We didn't have any, but you can put sprinkled peanuts,
and then you drizzle a bit of dark chocolate. And
I said it was having chocolate. It was like seventy
or eighty percent dark chocolate. I don't count that as chocolate.
It's have you got some sort of pregnancy algorithm going?
Because I've seen these as something that pregnant women should
eat a couple of weeks before they give you soften
your cervix or something, because're apparently supposed to have like
(30:43):
eight dates a day, which well, no, this is not
that at all. I feel like it's the exact same
recipe that I've seen. Well, why would I be trying
to soften my service. I'm not saying you are. I'm
saying that I feel like this recipe is pop up
for you, probably because we keep sending you pregnancies. Oh no, no,
I googled it sweet treat. Okay, anyway, then a couple
(31:04):
of weeks, I've got a bat to the fridge if
you wants all right, I mean to be honest. Dates
sound bloody awful. They're nice. Look in winter, it's getting cold.
I think you've got to have a bit of chocolate.
Think of sticky day pudding. How nice that is? Yeah, well,
well it hasn't got me over the edge. Well maybe
we'll make your sticky date pudding in your last week
at pregnant. I'd rather have that. Well that is all
we have time for today. Thank you so much for
(31:25):
joining us for this episode. If you have enjoyed it,
could you please make sure you are subscribed on Apple
podcast and also Spotify. It was sod I mentioned the
subs episode we had out this week because I have
to say it was quite a funny one. We spoke
about Saffron Barker's gross toilet moment, which we have shared
a bit about on our Instagram stories. She ended up
(31:47):
sparking a bit of debate after eating chocolate rice crackers
from the lid of her toilet. We're going to discuss
our thoughts that. In the subs episode, we also spoke
about Sarah's Day's secret babysitter. And also we spoke about
that viral photo that Harry Styles took of a fan.
So if you're not a subscriber and do want to
listen all of the details do subscriber in the show notes,
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Thank you so much for listening to this episode of Outspoken.
This podcast was recorded on the traditional land of the
Dana people of the Adelaide Plains. We pay respect to
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